Latest / For Azeroth!: A World of Warcraft Podcast / #217 - For Azeroth!: “Your Science is Bad and You Should Feel Bad”
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- 1:20Hello and welcome back to another episode of for Azeroth.
- 1:24I am one of your host Manny and I am joined as always by live
- 1:29live. How has the World of Warcraft
- 1:31being treating you this week? A lot better than other games
- 1:35that will be talking about at some point in this episode but
- 1:39yeah, I'm back in the into leveling all the alts.
- 1:48My goal is as I had stated for every expansion is to get one of
- 1:53every class up to level cap and yeah I'm I've picked that gold
- 1:58back up and I'm working on getting the rest of the classes.
- 2:02I think I'm down to think like four classes left for five.
- 2:08I can't remember off the top of my head.
- 2:09I'd have to look at my character sheet, but either way, making a
- 2:13lot of progress on it and I'm very excited to finally, Maybe
- 2:18Maybe you finally get it done this time around before the next
- 2:23expansion comes out. So how's the world work?
- 2:26I've been treating, you Manny pretty good.
- 2:29So the guild that I am trying with.
- 2:32We got the Jailer down this week congrats.
- 2:35Yep. Thank you.
- 2:36Thank you. Going to be taking a little bit
- 2:38of a break before we dive into Mythic, but I'm excited to
- 2:43actually be stepping into Mythic, which was the the plan
- 2:46all along. It's very happy about Out that
- 2:48also got to do some Mythic plus again and I'm glad diving back
- 2:56into that. Well, but really diving, I sort
- 2:59of just am doing the level that I was like, I've gotten a 20
- 3:06completed and I've done like, 19's and time, I want to say, I
- 3:10got a 20 complete in time, but I've just been I being around
- 3:14there but also trepidatious about jumping into That I want
- 3:18to get those portals. I want to get the teleport
- 3:22because season 4, you're not going to be able to do the
- 3:25teleport because we're going to be doing those classic dungeons.
- 3:27But at the same time, I'd been sort of wanting to dive into the
- 3:32mount hunt. And then also realizing that
- 3:35there's just not enough time for everything this is right, right.
- 3:40Because you're like, you're getting like, dangerously close
- 3:43to 200 months. Finally.
- 3:44Like, you're like, what 188 now 180?
- 3:48Um, wait. No 180.
- 3:49What? No, no 580, something.
- 3:51We're cook dangerously close to 600 mounts 180 and 180, a like,
- 3:56yeah, wait a second. One of those digits is wrong.
- 3:59One of those very important digits is very wrong.
- 4:06Oh, can you tell that it's been a week for me?
- 4:09Clearly clearly. Yeah, 588.
- 4:14I think I'm gonna do a quick check horrible radio here
- 4:17though. Okay.
- 4:18So dangerously close to 600 mounts, not 200.
- 4:22You're Way Beyond 200. You have been Way Beyond 200 for
- 4:25quite some time you're very close to 600 which is a
- 4:28Monumental undertaking for anyone playing this game but
- 4:32here you are. About to hit it like within 189.
- 4:35There you go. Those 500 it was recent Mount
- 4:38was the bone hooft or less? Which is like one I had been
- 4:44working on for a while. Yeah just some of the some of
- 4:47the shadowlands mounts like take quite like they're quite a Time
- 4:51investment to to get. Yeah I mean like this one was
- 4:54one of the more classic orangey ones you have a I think four
- 4:59percent chance of it of it dropping but it's also one Ones
- 5:03that I had been attempting without realizing that you
- 5:06needed to be part of the right, Covenant.
- 5:09And then even when you're part of the right Covenant, you need
- 5:11to have a specific creation from the Stitch Works in order to
- 5:15even get the chance at it. So while I had been making
- 5:19attempts with a quote unquote, High drop chance of 4%.
- 5:23It meant nothing until you had the various qualifications to
- 5:27actually be eligible for the drop.
- 5:29Of course, once I decided to sit down and be like, okay, I need
- 5:32to get all of Of the Mounds from the necro, Lords.
- 5:36And I started looking up. What do I need for these?
- 5:38Yeah, I realize yeah I gotta do this, the Stitch yard and so I
- 5:41had been working through that Max that out got a couple of
- 5:45them from that which included that one the bone soon flesh
- 5:49rock and all that and you know getting getting mounts is great.
- 5:53The missing mounts though I have two solo through plague fall to
- 6:00get that plague where Mount yeah great that slime sir.
- 6:03Bent, I think it's called, Mmm, I've got to do that.
- 6:06I am missing one Mount one last Mount from the creation
- 6:12Catalyst. Unfortunately, that requires a
- 6:15drop from a raid boss. That is a low chance drop.
- 6:19So every so often I keep diving and LFR being like well, maybe
- 6:22I'll get a chance and then wondering if it does drop it off
- 6:25of LFR. I can say that it does I did see
- 6:27somebody else, get it just not meet good, that's good.
- 6:31I mean that it can drop from l.a. far, nothing.
- 6:33You didn't get it, obviously. Obviously, obviously there's 11
- 6:39whole mount in the entirety of shadowlands, that I have yet to
- 6:43get and it's the one Mount that I want and it's the one that you
- 6:47have to go farm. The flayed Wings in mild raxus
- 6:52to get the egg. Yes, and I have gone out there.
- 6:56I cannot tell you. How many times I've sat down and
- 6:59been like, okay, I'm just gonna like throw on.
- 7:03Music. And I'm just gonna sit here for
- 7:05an hour and I'm going to fly around Mi drax's, and I'm going
- 7:07to try to get this egg. And I'm going to do everything
- 7:09that I can to be efficient with my flayed Wing killing and try
- 7:16and get this egg finally, and I still haven't gotten it.
- 7:20I've done it countless times and I still the egg.
- 7:24Eludes me and I'm this, this is the part of the game that
- 7:28frustrates me. So let's go through that.
- 7:31They're, you know, you've Done this countless times.
- 7:35You can't remember how many times you've done that.
- 7:37So I'm seeing you being one of those kind of hand solo Mount
- 7:42collectors. Never tell me the odds.
- 7:44Don't don't worry about the numbers.
- 7:45You're just going to put the effort in.
- 7:46Hopefully it hits, right? Shouldn't have to do this to
- 7:49impress me sir. The possibility of successfully
- 7:52navigating an asteroid field is approximately 3,720 to 1.
- 7:56Never tell me the odds. It is that it is.
- 7:59That way? You're at exactly.
- 8:01Do not ever tell me how How much of a chance I have at getting
- 8:06something because that will just discourage me from getting it?
- 8:12I ride the line. I'm not one of those people who
- 8:14uses one of those add-ons that tell you how many attempts
- 8:17you've made and blah blah blah. But at the same time I'll like
- 8:20I'll look at the odds and be like Oh point zero zero zero one
- 8:23percent chance drop if blah blah blah I know.
- 8:24But yeah, okay, that's the that's the chance and I'll go
- 8:28for it. I think that what will
- 8:30discourage me is not the chance of it going, but how much you
- 8:34have to do in order to get that chance?
- 8:36So I am totally fine with go out here.
- 8:39Kill this guy, get a chance of getting them out.
- 8:42That seems fine to me what I hate when I absolutely hate is
- 8:47run through these 20 different steps and then you get a chance
- 8:51or you need to wait for this guy to be up and then run it over
- 8:55here and then blah blah, blah blah blah and then you get a
- 8:57chance, those ones annoy the crap out of me.
- 9:00Those are the ones that I do at this.
- 9:02Nah. So there are certain ones that
- 9:05are always going to be harder for me.
- 9:07I'm not going to spend a day out in northrend waiting for time
- 9:11loss. Two pair and there are tricks to
- 9:14doing that. There's entire instance,
- 9:17closings, this sort of thing, where if you go out specially on
- 9:21our P servers, you go out to the RP server, you make sure you are
- 9:26the only one in the area. You can do a scan for a for it
- 9:29really and you wait for a bit and then you're like screw it
- 9:34switch over to different character and go out there.
- 9:36And if nobody is in the zone for 15 minutes, The Zone D spawns,
- 9:41and then obviously, When you log back into your character, it
- 9:44creates a new Zone, which means fresh chance of getting it, and
- 9:47you could do it that way. Hmm, or something far more
- 9:50straightforward, like the who Lon bonds, every 20-30 minutes
- 9:55or so. And there is no lockout, you can
- 9:58kill him a 20 times in a day and each chance.
- 10:02Each one you kill is a new chance, but like that to me is
- 10:05just so mind-numbing. So, I'd rather just do my weekly
- 10:10chances, or do my daily chance of Go through it rather than
- 10:14those Camp off things or the ones that like have 20 different
- 10:17steps to get a chance at it. If it's 20 different steps and
- 10:20you get it guaranteed, I'll do that.
- 10:23That to me seems like a just a question with this as a reward.
- 10:28Yeah, if there's if there's like a deterministic element to it,
- 10:32that makes it a lot more palatable and I find that to be
- 10:35true like across the board with anything available in the game.
- 10:38Like, if you, if you give me something to terminus stick to
- 10:41do, like you give me. A list of tasks to go do.
- 10:45I'll do them, I'll do whatever. But it doesn't matter.
- 10:48I'll do anything. You tell me to of the game.
- 10:50I'll do it promise. I don't I'm gonna say, I'm gonna
- 10:54press X to doubt on that. My lady here, I just I feel like
- 10:59there are definitely times where it's like, oh, you just have to
- 11:02beat this boss on hard mode. You're like, I don't want to go
- 11:04through that. Forget it.
- 11:05I'm not doing it that we've had with mechag on, or with Kara's
- 11:09an where I had to like drag you in.
- 11:11It's like, don't worry. Worry, there's like pretty much
- 11:13100% chance because it's five of us.
- 11:15Somebody's gonna get this Mount, will come back and just like,
- 11:17oh, I don't want to do this dungeon five times, we get it,
- 11:19I'm done. So you see that, but I feel like
- 11:23the case is born out against you.
- 11:26I felt like I agree with part of that.
- 11:29Except that there's certain things that are just a lot of
- 11:31effort like the plague fall Mount but we're just talking
- 11:34about that slime worm. That requires me to gear up a
- 11:41alt tank at Decent level to be able to solo that.
- 11:45That's a huge investment that I don't want to spend time in.
- 11:49Well, I did mine with just with NASA three.
- 11:52I gir like I went in on my desk night with, with heroic level
- 11:57castle and a 3 a gear and Soledad just fine.
- 11:59So you could go in and get like some like just 233 stuff from
- 12:06from zeroth mortise and be just fine.
- 12:08Like, honestly it's not, it sounds a lot more.
- 12:12V than it actually is, I don't know.
- 12:14Did you, did you do it on heroic, I guess?
- 12:16Mmm. And you, you had a death knight.
- 12:19So yeah. Maybe yeah.
- 12:22It's totally doable. Now, with not even zeroth more
- 12:24to scary, like, just go buy some cheap 233 crafted stuff.
- 12:28Yeah, you don't even have to like care about what the stats
- 12:31are, like it could be the worst stat line possible.
- 12:34Just get the cheapest 233 gear set that you can and and jump
- 12:38in. Right.
- 12:39Well, you know what if this, if before this episode comes out,
- 12:42I've got the Slime room. We will see how much I paid to
- 12:47to get into gear to get this live, where I will check back
- 12:52with you. Next episode on this, we will
- 12:54have a check in to see did Maddie get the sign planner.
- 12:58But other than that, the last thing that I've done or rather
- 13:01the last thing that I want to do because I haven't done it yet,
- 13:04is they have the Quest for benari where benari his dead on
- 13:11the ground and this was something that I was like oh
- 13:13benari said wonder what that's about and I never actually
- 13:16checked it out myself because I was just add vanilla is dead and
- 13:18you need to have engineering to see that something's off.
- 13:22Well turns out, somebody decided to just pass it a body enough to
- 13:26find out that there's more to this Quest.
- 13:28You can do more with this. And it leads when where what,
- 13:32you know, I haven't done it yet but I've also stayed that way.
- 13:37Way, way away from spoilers, to make sure that it's not ruined
- 13:40for me, as I will be doing this. Shortly.
- 13:43But, I love not whatever. This is, I can't tell you.
- 13:46I live, I love it. I haven't done it yet and I
- 13:47don't know about it, but I love that.
- 13:51This is yet again. A bonus of something not being
- 13:54on the PTR. Yes, people didn't figure this
- 13:58out day one. This was a question that we had
- 14:00last episode where it's like, oh we view there was like
- 14:04spoiler-free and there was no PR and everything ran smoothly,
- 14:07would you say forget it? Let's not do a PTR.
- 14:10Let's not have this spoiled and I was like, yeah.
- 14:12Yes. And one of the reasons is this
- 14:15late Discovery stuff, the stuff where people find out things
- 14:19after the fact, and we were talking about it in the abstract
- 14:23last episode at the end of the episode.
- 14:25So, go back and listen to that, but this is the real version of
- 14:29it. I love that.
- 14:31Yeah, some of the, some of the most fun that people have had
- 14:34with this game is stuff that's tied to like the secret finders
- 14:38Discord. Like the, we have entire
- 14:40communities that have popped up around Finding out all of the
- 14:43different secrets that are hidden throughout the World of
- 14:45Warcraft and that really didn't kick up like in full swing until
- 14:50Legion and then after Legion, there were a couple of things,
- 14:54like it BFA that that got pulled up that, where that were
- 14:59secrets, that they weren't things that were on the PTR that
- 15:02that people were able to find. But ever since ever, since
- 15:05Shadow has came out, it's just been, we knew everything on
- 15:09launch day, like we just knew everything.
- 15:10So it hasn't there hasn't really been Been that much of an
- 15:14element like I haven't I haven't heard the hype coming out of the
- 15:17secret finder Community like I have in previous expansions and
- 15:21that's been kind of sad for me. I mean yes and no I think part
- 15:26of it is that we haven't had those big secrets for a bit in a
- 15:31way. Yeah, again it's funny that like
- 15:35all of this is coming full circle.
- 15:36But everything is connected. The plague worm, the Slime worm
- 15:40rather was something that wasn't Discovered day one, people kept
- 15:43wondering, how do we get this? I know it's in the files, we
- 15:48know it comes from somewhere in here.
- 15:51How do we go about getting this? And that was something that was
- 15:53discovered much later and so then people started doing their
- 15:57solo runs to figure it out. Yeah.
- 15:59But you know on the other hand I think I think what made the hype
- 16:04around the secret finder stuff back in Legion and to a lesser
- 16:07extent BFA was just that it was a constant activity like there.
- 16:12Has constant activity coming out of that community and we just we
- 16:16just haven't had it though. It was always something new to
- 16:18discover you are right. And that was part of the what
- 16:23kind of made Legion so special and you can think even back to
- 16:29be fa ones like the waste of time and that like goat like how
- 16:33do we defeat this goat its Invincible they like or finding.
- 16:38But I mean, I guess this was more of like an Easter egg but
- 16:40like, finding the 100 Acre Woods characters that cast in.
- 16:46I think he's on. Yeah.
- 16:47But that, that, that was something people came across.
- 16:49I would think it was more like when you do the Mind worm and
- 16:53people are trying to figure out what in the world are you
- 16:55supposed to do with this? And it was like, oh, the damage
- 16:58you take is the combination that works out and all of that sort
- 17:02of weird secret finding stuff. Which we just, I haven't really
- 17:07seen that in this expansion. Definitely not to the same level
- 17:11and I would love to see that. That come back and dragonflight
- 17:14and Beyond. Yeah, be something that they're
- 17:16constantly throwing in in, not just in launch because I really
- 17:19think shadowlands had a good launch.
- 17:22Where we were like, oh let's go raise this devour spawn and
- 17:26that's how you got a mount or sin writer and doing those
- 17:31daily. So, there was like, there were
- 17:33these cool, little non Progressive Community, things
- 17:37that people would do and like, okay, well where do we find the
- 17:41oats, the feeder? And Go back to the old world.
- 17:43And where do we get these Horseshoes and all that and all
- 17:46the exciting stuff? So then we're some stuff at
- 17:48launch of shadowlands but definitely this is these are the
- 17:53sort of things that have suffered in the work from home
- 17:56model that they had to transfer to and the heavy delays.
- 18:01Obviously, when you are already suffering, delays you're not
- 18:05going to delay further, the fit this stuff in so they had to I
- 18:09feel like they really had to strip the game down.
- 18:12Two Basic Essentials, which kind of leaves us with where we're
- 18:16at. With nine point, two point five,
- 18:18it has had some fantastic story elements, and the questions that
- 18:25we've had, I've enjoyed, I have enjoyed, it will be covering
- 18:28another one of those this week, as well, but we're what two
- 18:33weeks into it. And I think I've already felt
- 18:36like I seen it all. Yeah.
- 18:38Like, I haven't even done the quest lines like the, the
- 18:40actual, like the That we've seen like it obviously, like the
- 18:44vanara stuff. Like I'm interested in that
- 18:45because I'd like we didn't know about it until just now and
- 18:49like, like we knew about it this week, but I mean to say, but I
- 18:54I've already seen, I've already seen the quest lines of seen the
- 18:58the cinematics that have been put in with these questlines.
- 19:01I know what what's waiting for me with them?
- 19:05And like, I'm gonna do them eventually once I get my like,
- 19:10my my Mage and like, I'm On leveling characters right now.
- 19:13So it's like it's not at the top of my priority because these
- 19:16quest lines are going anywhere anytime soon.
- 19:19Like, they're probably not even going to go anywhere.
- 19:21Once we get into 10.0 and Tube into pre patch territory but
- 19:24there's not a rush, I don't feel, I don't feel a rush to get
- 19:28to it. So it's just kind of been
- 19:30something that I've I've observed passively and not
- 19:34really actively participated in. So I've been feeling like, I've
- 19:38seen everything that this patch, this nine point two point, five,
- 19:42Has to offer for like a week already.
- 19:44So it's kind of just like, I'm like we have we have the 10.0
- 19:49stuff like on the horizon. Have you done any of the
- 19:52Heritage quests? I started it.
- 19:54I started it on my warlock. I'm bleeding Hollow, but I
- 19:59haven't, I haven't actually gotten into the questline.
- 20:02I just talked to Leah Drennan in orbis.
- 20:05That's, that's the extent of us so far.
- 20:07Okay, all right, I've seen everything I've seen everything
- 20:10that is involved with the quest line.
- 20:12I just haven't done it myself. I mean like, I, that's one thing
- 20:15that I want to do this coming week is actually do that on one
- 20:21of my alts, to get the gear in the weapons.
- 20:24I don't have a iron, a dark iron dwarf, and I again, I'm very
- 20:30much back to like, I don't think I want to do a million alts
- 20:33right now, I just I'm going to focus on my Shaman because we're
- 20:37moving into myth grading. I really want to make sure that
- 20:39I'm on top of that. I have been Building an
- 20:43elemental because my team is actually melee heavy.
- 20:48So being able to be flexible and move to Elemental to do, that is
- 20:52something I want to do it. Definitely hurts that.
- 20:55I don't have the same 278 weapons that I have on my
- 20:59enhancement build. So on fights where it doesn't
- 21:02matter for us. I'm just like yeah let me just
- 21:04go and hand so we could burn this down.
- 21:06Hopefully something will drop. But yeah, my focus is yet again
- 21:10on my main I want to do Mount hunting so going through old
- 21:15content, which maybe I would do Legion to on a new class to do
- 21:21those campaigns. But if you're going to say, oh,
- 21:25the story I've seen before on videos and such, so it's out
- 21:29there and I could always get there.
- 21:30That is my exact thought about alts like we've covered.
- 21:37We've covered everything that happened and Legion on this very
- 21:41show before I On this show, they did all of the various Legion
- 21:46order Hall campaigns and I got to listen to you Joss and I got
- 21:51to listen to Garrett. Just geeky about it.
- 21:53It geeking out about it and it was great.
- 21:55Yeah, I don't need to do it myself.
- 21:58Yeah, well, I mean for me for Legion content in particular,
- 22:03like there's the the looming on all the the characters that I
- 22:07enjoy playing. There's the the looming like
- 22:11These are characters that I started to get the artifact
- 22:15skins unlocked. And I've only got, like, a
- 22:17handful of them. And so I really want to go back
- 22:20and unlock some more. Some more of those skins
- 22:22especially especially Druids skins.
- 22:25Like I just love The Druids skins and I want to go back and
- 22:30collect more of it. Like, when I look at the
- 22:32collection stuff, like that's the kind of stuff that I want to
- 22:34collect. Like the mounts are great and
- 22:36all, but like, nine times out of ten, I'm going to be using Out
- 22:41that just matches my, my characters aesthetic at the time
- 22:45you're going to do that. If you don't have the right now,
- 22:47like then I'll get the mount. I will Target the one Mount that
- 22:51I need for the aesthetic and then I'll go get it or I'll find
- 22:54one that is like tangential to it.
- 22:56Like I don't even have to be spot-on, it just needs to be
- 22:59like, what are you talking about?
- 23:00What are you talking about? Imagine if you feel you're
- 23:04playing your Shaman, you've got your entire lightning, bring the
- 23:08Thunder enhancement. Build you're rocking out in that
- 23:13like Emerald Nightmare Night, hold lightning gear, And now you
- 23:20need a mount to match that and of course, you think to yourself
- 23:25Malik the thunder dragon of and he was blue to just like your
- 23:29gear and he shot off lightning just like your gear.
- 23:33And now I've gotten Alec Well one I hate you but to and you
- 23:41now have to camp out trying to and every time you go out to get
- 23:47now, like you only reminded that you don't have the right gear,
- 23:51you've got some adjacently, good mount for it.
- 23:55No that doesn't. That doesn't work.
- 23:56That doesn't work, get on it live.
- 23:59I'm telling you it's gonna hurt you get on it.
- 24:04Yeah. There I mean there are very few
- 24:06Models in the game, that that I really, really like and and
- 24:11appreciate aesthetically. There is one Mount that I kick
- 24:16myself for not going to get and that's the, you know.
- 24:19Okay, I know, it's not Malik continue the dragon mount.
- 24:22No, it's not now, like it's the, it's the dragon mount that.
- 24:27It's like the Proto Drake model, but it's got like the like, the,
- 24:31the gore Chomper armor and it's like, it's like Russia.
- 24:36Rusty bloody like plated armor on on top of the head.
- 24:40And it's one of the, it's one of the Gladiator match, but it's
- 24:45about that. You can't get any more because
- 24:46it's a gladiator Mount. That's that's, I mean, I don't
- 24:48think that's entirely true anymore.
- 24:50I think that if you get enough rating and you get the points,
- 24:54you can now get a token that you can go get past season, Mounds
- 24:59episode, 217 live starts pvping really hardcore, clearly we got
- 25:04the time for the on That's that's the entirety of this
- 25:10week. Right now.
- 25:11We're in sort of a low 4 news, we have gone through a lot of
- 25:17what, nine point. Two point five has to offer.
- 25:19Obviously, season 4 is embedded in those files but season 4 is
- 25:22in the pond as yet. So we're in a holding pattern
- 25:25right now because we haven't got any big news this week.
- 25:29Last week, we got the talent trees for decays and for Druids,
- 25:33and that was a lot of hype and And to be able to go through
- 25:37those things. We haven't gotten any more this
- 25:39week. We haven't got any additional
- 25:41news. So, we're just waiting with
- 25:43bated breath, but that means that a lot of people have been
- 25:48free to talk about other things. So we do have a quick new
- 25:52segment here about things that have been happening in game,
- 25:56because there has been some small things and really, this is
- 25:59just some quick news. So there is a promotion that
- 26:02they're offering. If you want to get your friends
- 26:05back into the game. Wink-wink nudge-nudge, pyramid
- 26:07scheme. I'm joking.
- 26:09And you can get a friend to reactivate their account and
- 26:14it's sort of like a recruiter friend, where you get a bonus
- 26:18with a reference code. And so each person that you
- 26:22invite back, you get 30 days of game time.
- 26:25So basically a month of game time in the 30 days, do they get
- 26:28the 30 days? Yeah, you give them 30 days to
- 26:31come back and then you, you don't even have to get them to
- 26:35accept the days and get them to actually come back.
- 26:38You just have to have referred them and they be eligible.
- 26:41So if they had an inactive account, it was inactive prior
- 26:45to the 31st of May, you get a free character transfer or not
- 26:49character transfer, but affection transfer for like just
- 26:52one faction transfer of you can use on any character you want,
- 26:55but you can invite up to five people back.
- 26:57Okay, so you have your five eligible friends, and those five
- 27:00eligible fans invite five eligible, France.
- 27:02And those five up. No, no, anyways, so you have
- 27:04your five eligible friend. And you send them this and they
- 27:09get 30 days, awarded to them, right?
- 27:13And then that plus, like, our new cross-faction stuff means
- 27:18that you get to play with them. But on top of that, they're
- 27:21going to offer faction changes to the person.
- 27:24So it's like, hey you know what, even still you could jump over
- 27:28to Alliance or Horde and then form your guild because guilds
- 27:32aren't cross faction. And everybody's upset about that
- 27:35too. To then start playing with your
- 27:37friends and hopefully they stay after the 30 days.
- 27:41Okay. Essentially this is like a this
- 27:43is a free. Like it like a free race change
- 27:48token, I guess. Granted that it's only races
- 27:51that are available to the class of the character that you're
- 27:54transferring. That are on the opposite
- 27:56faction. Not your own faction that the
- 27:58characters on, but even still like it's a it's an excuse to
- 28:01like get you to go you know go wild like gold gold.
- 28:06Your wildest dreams, you've been Alliance for you know 13 years
- 28:11and you just want to see if the grass is greener on the other
- 28:13side. So you change your main over and
- 28:15then you just regret it you know and then you go buy another
- 28:18factions, the transfer a week later but in all seriousness,
- 28:23like I think this is okay. Like it's not.
- 28:27They're giving away free game time.
- 28:29Two players to come back and try the game and Pitch. 9.2 .5.
- 28:33Yeah, just there's this caucus to this, this It's like yeah for
- 28:37all my pyramid scheme jokes there's no real cost to either
- 28:42player. Your friend gets like the 30-day
- 28:45game time, you get a free faction change when your friend
- 28:50activate the gifted time. I don't even think they have to
- 28:53activate it. I think you just have to have
- 28:55sent a code to them to an eligible account.
- 28:59So the the rules of this is that you may invite up to five of
- 29:05your friends. Turned as off.
- 29:07No game time will be rewarded. Two players with an active while
- 29:10subscription as of May 31st, 2022 or later, which is insane
- 29:17that it's like, as long as they weren't active this month, they
- 29:21could have canceled last month and they're eligible for this.
- 29:24So the the eligibility is, so is so wide Gametime gifts must be
- 29:30claimed by you and your friends within 14 days of the receipt,
- 29:35not eligible. For accounts with negative
- 29:38actions like bands, suspensions, or other numerous in-game
- 29:41reports, yada yada yada and submissions will be processed
- 29:44periodically as a receive. So just because you sent it to
- 29:48him doesn't mean immediately. This active eventually it'll
- 29:51redeem and this offer will be linked to your account and is
- 29:56not transferable. You must submit at least one
- 29:59valid and eligible battle tag to redeem your faction change which
- 30:03will be granted be a Battlenet. Corey faction change must be
- 30:08claimed within six months of receipt.
- 30:09Only a single faction change will be granted and does not
- 30:13duplicate for additional eligible battle tags.
- 30:16So that is amazing. You are right.
- 30:18They don't even have to receive the time or activate the time
- 30:23you want to do a faction change for for anything.
- 30:27Just send it to your friend, who hasn't been playing for playing
- 30:32for two months, three weeks, two weeks week and a half at the
- 30:38time of the recording, right? And get your free faction
- 30:42transfer. This is incredibly generous, I
- 30:45actually regret making my pyramid scheme jokes.
- 30:50Yeah, like Blizzard's taking an obvious hit on this like they
- 30:53are losing losing hours and hours of game time.
- 30:58Like I'm going to send it to my friend who, I know the used to
- 31:01play and not even tell him because I don't care.
- 31:03Couldn't even are not free traction Transformer and I feel
- 31:07I feel kind of bad because I went like a couple of weeks back
- 31:09I went through and cleared out a whole bunch of battle tags that
- 31:12I was just like I have no idea who you are or it somewhere that
- 31:15I know like they haven't logged in and seven years and I know
- 31:19that they're never going to login again.
- 31:20So I was just like yeah you just taking up space on my friends
- 31:23list. Get out of here but I could have
- 31:27gotten a free faction transfer off of them.
- 31:31Yeah yeah you know. Fuck his life such as life.
- 31:35I, yeah, I'm you know who recently cancel that you could
- 31:38like worm your way over to them for a for a free faction
- 31:44transfer. I'm all ears tell you after the
- 31:47show but it starts with an e and ends with a beer anyways.
- 31:52Alright alright I think I know hint hint received two received.
- 31:58There you go. Anyways yeah no I think this is
- 32:02fantastic. This is Is clearly them giving
- 32:05away free game, time to some for people to come back and giving
- 32:10away transfers for people who are like, yeah, I can, I can
- 32:14play with my friends. On any side, I can be a blood
- 32:19elf, again a blood elf Mage and play with my friends who are
- 32:23Alliance over on it, like there are piece of ever whatever and
- 32:29show up every week and do do the rage.
- 32:32So if you know a person like that, That or are a person like
- 32:34that jump on your Mage and play that as a blood elf and get your
- 32:39your faction armor because that's a thing and still get to
- 32:44play with your friends for no cost to you at all.
- 32:46That's his, this is good. That was supposed to be small
- 32:48news. Moving on, speaking of cross
- 32:51factions there have been some shenanigans that supposedly have
- 32:55been dealt with one. Was that cares.
- 32:57An was bugged. We're cross-faction groups were
- 33:00able to play the the chest event again.
- 33:03Each other that's awesome blizzard baby.
- 33:07Find a way to like leave that in as a holiday event battle on the
- 33:12Battleground Checkers and chess. That's exactly where my brain
- 33:16went immediately was just like let's have actual chess games.
- 33:19Like let's actually do like this would be so sick but alas it's
- 33:26not meant to be. They got fixed that out of the
- 33:28game. Pretty pretty quickly.
- 33:30Just it just added in as like a little Quest that you throw into
- 33:33your life. Like Garrison that you can be
- 33:36like, oh let me cue like because they have solo Shuffle.
- 33:39It's like okay, well instead of queuing him solo Shuffle IQ into
- 33:43karazhan chest. It was a real problem, though.
- 33:46It was like an actual real problem because what was
- 33:49happening, is that the chess event was starting, they were
- 33:52hopping into pieces on the opposite faction and then you
- 33:56couldn't complete it after the fact, like, after you started
- 33:59it, and you had two people from opposite factions, jump on
- 34:02either side of the board. The the entire event just bugged
- 34:05out and you couldn't complete it from that point and it was
- 34:07ruining people's lockouts for Kara's in for the week.
- 34:11So that was, it was definitely, you know, an unintended
- 34:14consequence of the entire the entire cross faction thing.
- 34:18It may have been something that like fell under the radar or
- 34:21they had thought that they had gotten it and didn't quite get
- 34:25everything out of it that they wanted or like all the bugs out
- 34:29of it, they wanted to. Yeah.
- 34:30There's still a lot of bugs. There's still a lot of things
- 34:35that need to be resolved with even the current implementation
- 34:38and I know people want more, so hopefully they can iron all of
- 34:41this out and then start working on the bigger things that people
- 34:44want up to and including cross-faction guilds.
- 34:48So then the other part was that rated PVP, which we reported on
- 34:52last week, had had to be shut down.
- 34:55That is now back up and active, as of Realm maintenance.
- 35:00However, I have heard there are still Few more issues going on
- 35:05with that. That there's that they are
- 35:07trying to add. Yeah, it said a, it's at a place
- 35:10where it's at least playable now.
- 35:11Like it wasn't like game-breaking like it was week
- 35:15one where they turned it on and everyone just went into a
- 35:21basically, a poop show where nothing worked and everything
- 35:26was awful, and yeah, they had to shut it down completely to fix
- 35:31some pretty major. A game breaking bugs but now
- 35:35it's just some pretty minor stuff that they've got still
- 35:38going on. So if you, if you like doing
- 35:40rated PVP and you were looking forward to to doing, you know,
- 35:44cross-faction rated PVP, its back, you can now enjoy it do it
- 35:49with a little bit of trepidation, okay?
- 35:53And then the next part is actually related to be c
- 35:58classic. So we've heard about wrath
- 36:01classic now they put out That trailer that's going to be
- 36:05coming through. But in terms of BC Classic a lot
- 36:09of those classic Realms are going to be Consolidated, 22
- 36:14Realms are going to be shut off. And then the players from those
- 36:18Realms are going to be moved into higher population servers
- 36:21those moves are going to be automatic.
- 36:23They're going to be based on Faction balance and overall
- 36:27population balance as well. And then once wrath comes in, we
- 36:32will move into Wrath of the Lich King Classic.
- 36:35Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that there will be
- 36:40Classics our tourism season of Mastery servers, but I think all
- 36:43BC servers are moving on to wrath, is that right?
- 36:47Correct? So the way that it works is that
- 36:50whenever so the best way I can explain it is is to explain how
- 36:54it worked whenever burning Crusade classic launched.
- 36:58So they basically He just took all of the servers from vanilla
- 37:03classic and they duplicated the server's.
- 37:07So they had the Legacy server, that housed, the character
- 37:10information for everything that was there before and then they
- 37:14made a copy of everyone's characters and put it on a
- 37:18separate server. And whenever you logged in they
- 37:21won you could say, I want this character to either stay in the
- 37:25Legacy server or I want it to move.
- 37:28So the The copy existed in both servers for every character that
- 37:34you had and then in order to log into that character, again,
- 37:38after the launch date, you had to tell it which one to actually
- 37:42activate. Okay.
- 37:44But you also could pay to do both yes.
- 37:46But in this case, there is no choice, right?
- 37:48All of the BC servers are going to move into RAF region, right?
- 37:53I don't know. That's what I'm asked.
- 37:55A question as a good question. I don't, I don't think we've And
- 37:59actually, any information on how the the server process is gonna
- 38:05happen this time around. And I know that there was a
- 38:08little bit of discussion about about how the servers are going
- 38:13to progress around the the announcement of Wrath classic.
- 38:17But I think that had to do more with the offerings that they're
- 38:21going to be making because I think that they're going to be
- 38:23doing things a little bit differently than how they did at
- 38:27at the launch of burning Crusade, classic But in terms of
- 38:31how how that server migration is going to happen, we have no
- 38:35details at this point. I don't think.
- 38:37Okay? So then we will hopefully if you
- 38:41guys know let us know either message us directly on Twitter,
- 38:46send us an email fast podcast at gmail.com or jump in the Discord
- 38:50and let us know because I think I had heard that bck servers
- 38:55were going to just move forward because they didn't want to
- 38:58continue. During the player base.
- 39:01But we will, we will see it would make sense.
- 39:04Now, with all of that done, the big news that has everybody
- 39:08talking in the blizzard Community, right?
- 39:10This week is the launch of Diablo Immortal and with the
- 39:14launch of Diablo Immortal. We also got a open Beta launch
- 39:19of cross-connected and cross progression.
- 39:24PC beta. But there is a bit of a A
- 39:29controversy because of the monetization of Diablo mortal.
- 39:35There are a lot of totally optional payments that you can
- 39:39make four different bonuses. And many of these bonuses do
- 39:44Impact gameplay and can increase.
- 39:48If not outright, give you the ability of getting better,
- 39:52stronger gear. And in terms of Diablo gear is
- 39:57everything. It is a loo Progression system
- 40:00that you get stronger and that allows you to do better content
- 40:04and that allows you to get better gear and the cycle
- 40:06continues. So there's a lot to talk about
- 40:10this but here are a few of the main topics to discuss here.
- 40:14Obviously, we are World of Warcraft show and I would love
- 40:18to talk about how this might reflect on World of Warcraft.
- 40:23If it is something that could work in World of Warcraft or if
- 40:26it is something you think is even likely to happen.
- 40:29World of Warcraft. So yeah, loot boxes obviously
- 40:33exists in in this game. Despite the key developers
- 40:39making claims that we're going back month, that there was no
- 40:43way to buy gear with money. You're definitely able to buy
- 40:48forms of Power with money so you can't directly by traditional
- 40:53gear isn't like the loop box opens up.
- 40:55And he's like, hey here's like the legendary plate of yada.
- 40:58Yada yada. But you can get legendary gems,
- 41:02Which slot into your gear and scale your power way further
- 41:07than the gear that they actually go into.
- 41:10So it's directly the spirit of the gear which is how you
- 41:14progress put into something that is not exactly clear gear.
- 41:20So it's it, as if we had Gemma jewelcrafting in World of
- 41:24Warcraft, but you could buy off the auction house.
- 41:27A Gem that was plus 500 agility instead of plus 30 agility which
- 41:36doesn't even exist right now. The yeah with cash, not gold
- 41:40cash with cash. That would be ridiculous.
- 41:48And the way that it's sort of being skirted around is that the
- 41:52legendary gems are being acquired from the loot boxes,
- 41:59Yeah. So there's a lot of terminology
- 42:03that kind of needs to be understood to understand how
- 42:06loot boxes exist in this game. So you have you have three
- 42:11different, like three main currencies in, in Diablo
- 42:14Immortal, you have gold, you have silver and then you have
- 42:19orbs. Those are the three.
- 42:21The three main currencies gold is just the the currency that
- 42:26you get just from from playing the game.
- 42:28You get it, you use it for for upgrading upgrading like your
- 42:32Bass Gear, and then like purchasing various various
- 42:36stuff, right? And it's not very useful for
- 42:41progression necessarily, but it's still something that you
- 42:43just gather over time, you have silver, which can be bought with
- 42:47orbs or just earned passively through playing the game.
- 42:51There are a couple of different ways to get silver but you can
- 42:54get truckloads of silver by buying silver with.
- 42:58Orbs in orbs. You can only get by putting down
- 43:02hard earned cash. So you can progress Faster by
- 43:08buying orbs and converting that into the other currency.
- 43:11Yes. So there's actually so there's
- 43:14even like like a in between currency and these are called
- 43:18key stones. And the these Keystone's you put
- 43:20into to your riffs, that that give you more higher chance of
- 43:26getting loot. Can you get Keystone From any
- 43:29other way you can you can get Keystone's just from playing the
- 43:33game. I think you get like a like a
- 43:35couple of regular ones or maybe maybe you just get one regular
- 43:38Keystone a day for logging in but then the legendary
- 43:43Keystone's the ones that you need to have in order to
- 43:46guarantee various legendary drops out of the Rifts you you
- 43:52are on a very set track without spending money to get these
- 43:56these legendary Keystone's. So kind of like you are a gated
- 44:00through time and you can break through some of these gates with
- 44:05paying, right? Yes.
- 44:07But eventually, and I mean, eventually you can get
- 44:11everything for free, you just you're never going to show up on
- 44:14the Diablo leaderboards. Yes karev.
- 44:17You're, if you're a competitive player, then you're just at a
- 44:21pure disadvantage because you're not paying into this.
- 44:23Exactly. Because they're able like,
- 44:25people that are paying for for these legendary.
- 44:28He Stones. They're getting the loot a lot
- 44:30faster. They're getting their
- 44:32progression done a lot faster because another thing with these
- 44:35is that the legendary gems that you're sliding into your gear,
- 44:38they are on a starter scale system, so they're like, you can
- 44:42get one star gems, and you can get all the way up to five star
- 44:44gems. Five star being the rarest one.
- 44:47Star being the most common, you can take these gems and
- 44:52cannibalize them into each other in order to power them up.
- 44:56So not only do you need to get the Five star gems, the the
- 44:59highest, you know, power level available of these gems but you
- 45:03also have to power them up after the point are after the fact
- 45:07with other gyms. So it's not just as simple as
- 45:10just getting the gem. You have to also Empower it by
- 45:13consuming other gems. And it takes a very long time or
- 45:18a lot of money in order to get those gems.
- 45:20Powered up all the way. Sure.
- 45:22Is there a season in Diablo mortal much like there is in
- 45:26Diablo 3. So There are seasons, it's not
- 45:30the same, it's not the same at all of your stuff carry over
- 45:34from one season to the other, it does.
- 45:36So in Diablo mortal, they have what's called battle pass
- 45:40seasons. And the battle pass is
- 45:42essentially and this is this is a very common thing in mobile
- 45:44games but there is a lot of seams.
- 45:47Yeah, yeah, in this day and age a lot more games than just
- 45:52mobile games but the battle pass is still there.
- 45:54The concept is that there is a free track where you, you know,
- 45:57through doing Various activities from day to day.
- 45:59You just get experience that goes into this.
- 46:02This free track that has rewards along it, that you are trying to
- 46:07get up to the level cap, to get the best rewards from from the
- 46:11battle pass. And then, you know, just
- 46:13accumulate all of the rewards that come with it through just
- 46:18playing the game. There's also a paid track on the
- 46:21battle pass that has cosmetic rewards as well as additional
- 46:26power games, including Legendary Keystone's, and a whole bunch of
- 46:31other stuff that helps towards your characters progression.
- 46:35And there are two different two different costs to to this this
- 46:41paid track, there's the base level paid track, which is five
- 46:44dollars, or you could pay $15 and get 10, free levels towards
- 46:50the battle pass, and some other cosmetic stuff.
- 46:54So there's, there's layers to this and it's it just Like the,
- 46:59the further you look into it, the more greedy, it looks,
- 47:03alright. So I'm gonna dress Diablo
- 47:06Immortal in and of itself with my understanding of it, and then
- 47:10I want to turn discussion towards World of Warcraft.
- 47:14Yes, I believe this is predatory in its monetization.
- 47:20I think it would be very easy for them to break this by simply
- 47:25creating to Leaderboards one, where you've paid in and one
- 47:32where you have it, if they was a free-to-play leaderboard, you
- 47:36would guarantee that people would do the.
- 47:39I'm not going to pay route on some seasons and another Seasons
- 47:43they might be like, oh, I got money.
- 47:45Let me try for this other route but a lot of people would be
- 47:48like I'm not dealing with the whales.
- 47:50I'll just play this and be satisfied with a free-to-play
- 47:53where I feel like I'm playing at a relatively even Keel the It's
- 47:58all put together is there is always arguments that I will
- 48:02make where it's like this is something that blizzard doesn't
- 48:06necessitate but the community says is necessary.
- 48:10I have to do Mythic plus I have to do this in order to play and
- 48:14it's like know, the community is making you do that.
- 48:18Your Guild Master is pushing you to do that or your guild is
- 48:22communities pushing to do that. That is not on blizzard.
- 48:26However, right putting forward all of these things that
- 48:32definitely speed up your progression and putting it in a
- 48:37way and not differentiating between the people who have paid
- 48:41for this boosted rate of acquisition boosted rate of
- 48:46empowerment versus the others poisons.
- 48:49The well, it is like they were doing their own meters in
- 48:54Warcraft, logs. And just like Warcraft logs had
- 48:58their power, their power infusion, dilemma.
- 49:01They decided, hey, we're going to Mark stuff with power
- 49:03infusion. So, you know, that this is a
- 49:05trumped-up boosted log, that's the same solution that would
- 49:09have that, I would say here, hey, this person has used the
- 49:12shop. They are app a player, here's
- 49:15your leaderboard. Go at it, this person is playing
- 49:19season of Mastery mode, hardcore mode, whatever you want to call
- 49:22it, right? Here's that leaderboard and the
- 49:26Two are different routes of play.
- 49:27Yeah. And I think that would be, you
- 49:29know, relatively elegant solution to the problem where I
- 49:33kind of find a little bit of fault with that.
- 49:36Is that there are, there's, there's two, like, main like
- 49:40paid things you can do to that, really just boost the crap out
- 49:44of your power, and that's through like, paying for the
- 49:46battle pass. But there's another thing called
- 49:48Boon of Plenty, which is like a cumulative, login bonus that you
- 49:52pay for, so you pay it gives you, it gives you 30 days.
- 49:56This this bonus it, advertises itself as you're getting, you're
- 50:01definitely getting all of these rewards and it's it is a like it
- 50:05looks on paper to be an insane deal.
- 50:08Like, it looks like you would be insane not to take it once.
- 50:11You went, you've gotten into the game and played around with a
- 50:14little bit and you understand the power gain that is available
- 50:18through these gem or through these Keystone's.
- 50:20It looks insane to not, take it but it is a thing that you drop
- 50:25the money. On it to get this 30-day
- 50:28cumulative thing. And if you miss a login day, you
- 50:31lose the bonus entirely. Which means you have to pay for
- 50:34another 30 days and then login for 30, consecutive days to get
- 50:39the full bonus of what you're paying for.
- 50:42So you're not even getting the full thing that you're paying
- 50:44for. Unless you log into the game
- 50:46every day, on top of that, there are also other little other
- 50:52packages that you can purchase. That also include like Minor
- 50:56power bonuses to your character. That is soon as you complete a
- 51:01dungeon, there's a pack for that dungeon and they tell you as
- 51:04soon as you come out of the dungeon, hey you can buy this
- 51:07part for 99 cents and it's got these goodies in it.
- 51:11And then the next time you do a dungeon that you've gained five
- 51:14levels, you do the next dungeon up in the storyline, you finish
- 51:17it soon. As you come out.
- 51:18Hey 199. Will give you these goodies and
- 51:22that continues throughout the entire thing and all of those
- 51:25packs. Are available the entire time
- 51:27and they put it in your face. Yeah.
- 51:30And that's that is predatory. And I wouldn't say honestly I
- 51:35wouldn't say that the game is was originally conceived like
- 51:39that, but clearly the monetization was something that
- 51:44they were considering heavily thinking about.
- 51:47It's the same thing that we had with OverWatch and with Heroes
- 51:51of the Storm, where it's like, how are we going to monetize
- 51:54these things? All of these new Games that have
- 51:56come out from blizzard, there's always been a question of how do
- 52:00we monetize this? How does it go through?
- 52:03And it changes the way that the game is developed.
- 52:07So they looked at this and they're like, hey, you can play
- 52:11through, you can get everything, but let's allow people to get a
- 52:15leg up and then rather than and put in a bunch of in-game ads
- 52:19which would annoy the crap out of me.
- 52:22They put in a bunch of Bing, you've done the Jun.
- 52:26Jin do you want to pay 99 Cents and get some better chance at
- 52:29gear or that sort of stuff? Which is so much better than
- 52:33when I play Words With Friends. And every time I put a move-in,
- 52:37I've got to wait for 20 seconds while the stupidest unregulated
- 52:41ad shows up. Yeah.
- 52:44Yeah, I so like there's different things that Illinois,
- 52:46different people for me, who doesn't care about the
- 52:49leaderboard, I will be happier playing this game than somebody
- 52:54who is a competitive player who wants to push themselves and see
- 52:59how far they get. And I mean that as in a
- 53:02competitive player in Diablo or somebody who really wants to
- 53:05push because I'm fairly competitive.
- 53:08I do fairly want to push myself but I'm also somebody who Even
- 53:13if I'm not in the top, 100 guilds isn't going to have my
- 53:16day ruined. And I think that, that sort of
- 53:20pushed to pressure is a very dangerous thing.
- 53:24So putting that towards World of Warcraft, but reason I stated it
- 53:29the way I did is that, I believe that we're unlikely to see this
- 53:35sort of monetization, get pushed into World of Warcraft because
- 53:42world of Is already making its money.
- 53:46We may see things shift. Like, I truly believe that their
- 53:51want of putting out an expansion, a year was something
- 53:56that was kind of being pushed on them.
- 53:58So rather than us paying our quote, unquote Warcraft tax
- 54:02every second year because here's the new expansion, it would be
- 54:06paying that Warcraft tax every year and it would mean that the
- 54:10expansion's themselves would likely We have less tears.
- 54:15It's why I was quite annoyed and am still annoyed that Warlords.
- 54:20Lost a tear. It's why I'm annoyed that
- 54:25shadowlands was always meant to be three parts.
- 54:29It's like well this is one of the more expensive expansions
- 54:31that you've had. You had the legendary edition
- 54:33and blah blah blah Edition and all of that.
- 54:35And you didn't put as many tears of rating in and as much content
- 54:40in like the bang for the buck in Warcraft is when we have things
- 54:45like mist of Pandaria where it's like four or five different
- 54:50patches that came out with all the tears that were involved and
- 54:53all the stuff that was in between.
- 54:56It's when we get Legion and all the, all the extra stuff that
- 54:59they throw in, like the, the Riddler's mind worm and all of
- 55:03that, plus the extra bonuses that they threw in and those
- 55:08amazing tears that to me is getting bang for your buck.
- 55:12But But if they were to do that and then try and monetize it on
- 55:17top of that with things that are like, hey you can get your tier
- 55:20set to to drop faster. If you pay 99 Cents or will give
- 55:27you extra charges on transferring gear over to tear,
- 55:30you just gotta pee in that would be so beyond the pale that I
- 55:36would say stuff that would make azman gold blush.
- 55:42That is a hi Park. Ladies and gentlemen, it is a
- 55:45high bar. Yeah, if I can interject
- 55:49something real quick. I think that like maybe maybe
- 55:54the only thing out of Diablo Immortal that I could see coming
- 55:59to World of Warcraft would be kind of the concept of battle
- 56:04pass where you have like this season, the seasonal aspect of
- 56:09the game, where you're going in and you're getting like through
- 56:12doing Doing daily and weekly activities through killing raid.
- 56:15Bosses through completing, Mythic plus Keys through doing
- 56:18rated PVP in some form. You're contributing towards this
- 56:24rewards track and it would be if it was anything.
- 56:27Other than this, I would Riot, but it would be a just something
- 56:30that is part of the game. Like it would just be a free
- 56:32thing. You're paying the subscription
- 56:34for the game and it would essentially just function as
- 56:38something to give players a reason to keep playing.
- 56:43Any any like minor goals that they may have?
- 56:45Like, if the you have players like myself who have the goal of
- 56:49getting a OTC and not really wanting to push too much into
- 56:53Mythic, maybe like killing one or two bosses just as something
- 56:57to do between Tears. Like, there's not really much
- 57:01else. Once you get your once you got
- 57:02your UTC to do but if they did something like a battle pass
- 57:07system where there are these additional rewards so they put
- 57:10them out to the end of it, like you've got to level your battle
- 57:12pass. I'm all the way up to 22.
- 57:16Renowned 80. And then you get, you get some
- 57:21like ultimate reward for it or you get like an extra title or
- 57:25you get, you get some, some sort of like tangible in-game reward
- 57:29for completing your battle pass. Like that would be probably the
- 57:33only acceptable thing out of a system like this, that I would
- 57:37like to see possibly come to World of Warcraft, but if they
- 57:42added all of these additional microtransactions on top of it.
- 57:45That would be the line where I would.
- 57:47I would say no. This may be the end of World of
- 57:51Warcraft. For me.
- 57:52I I can't justify playing this game and continuing to give
- 57:57money for this game in that particular State.
- 58:00Like, I am very much someone that I will continue to play
- 58:04Diablo Immortal. I will never give them a dime
- 58:06for it. I think the difference there is
- 58:08that, in my opinion, season passes battle, passes, their
- 58:13subscriptions, they are there, opt-in subscriptions, you can
- 58:17play the free to play. Version of this game.
- 58:19Or you can go get yourself, a battle pass.
- 58:21And here's all the extra goodies and the, and the sped up rewards
- 58:25track. Thank you for supporting the
- 58:27game that to me is fine. If you want to be like, here
- 58:31here's the base subscription we've had this game out for near
- 58:34twenty years and we've never and we've never made it more
- 58:37expensive. But here guys, here's a bunch of
- 58:41optional total cosmetic stuff. Go ahead.
- 58:45If you if you want to throw throw some money at that, it
- 58:48helps It helps us out that is fine.
- 58:50And that is why I'm okay with store mounts that is why I'm
- 58:54okay with Cosmetics that you can pay for the pillar of Eternity
- 58:59model, is the game is free. You can play through the seasons
- 59:02but we will put in cosmetic here and cosmetic here and you can
- 59:05buy this bundle and blah blah blah blah blah, right.
- 59:09And you could end up paying every time we do a new season,
- 59:13you could end up paying like 100 bucks for all the Cosmetics we
- 59:16put out there or more. That to me, is fine.
- 59:20But there has to be a line of where your extract to your money
- 59:24and how much of it is gameplay related?
- 59:28Diablo, Immortal is predatory because so much of everything
- 59:34that you talked about is gameplay rewards.
- 59:38We will balance the game. So you feel inclined to pay for
- 59:44for the faster reward track? This was something that happened
- 59:47with a game. That I was sort of looking at
- 59:50which was, I think it was like an Elder Scrolls mobile game
- 59:54where you could build up a town or like raid dungeons, but like
- 59:59the keys that you needed would only come in a certain period of
- 1:00:02time, or we're take the take a bit to open a chest and you
- 1:00:06could pay to remove that, open a chest and like that open chest
- 1:00:08mechanic is just there. To entice people to throw money
- 1:00:12and that to me is it was annoying.
- 1:00:15I have dabbled in mobile game. King and I know that the
- 1:00:21business models there are somewhat disgusting.
- 1:00:24I play a several games that have battle passes including like I
- 1:00:28said, path of the Exile or even dead by daylight dead by
- 1:00:32daylight has a battle pass and you can play the free track and
- 1:00:37get a certain rewards. And at any point you can pay in
- 1:00:40and get all those paid rewards that you have done.
- 1:00:43And if you complete the entire track, that actually allows you
- 1:00:47to get the next I'll pass for free.
- 1:00:49So hey, you've been playing a game, a lot.
- 1:00:51Keep rolling that over. I'm sure if I ever looked into
- 1:00:54Fortnight, I know that they have battle passes that are much like
- 1:00:57that, where it's pure cosmetic things but everybody's playing
- 1:01:00with the same weapons. So yeah, if they were to ever
- 1:01:04introduced a battle pass to World of Warcraft, they would
- 1:01:08have to drop the subscription. Yeah absolutely and and like I
- 1:01:12think it's a viable, it's a viable solution especially if
- 1:01:15they are too. Like if they were to expand The
- 1:01:19cash shop a little bit further other than just being, you know,
- 1:01:22like the handful of mounts and pets.
- 1:01:24They have, if they were to put like, cosmetic armor on to under
- 1:01:29the shop, if they were to put, you know, more more cosmetic
- 1:01:33stuff into the game, that was available through the cash shop
- 1:01:37and then introduce this battle pass kind of system.
- 1:01:40I think that they have the potential within within the
- 1:01:43World of Warcraft Community, to make a lot more money that way
- 1:01:48then. Then just having the Baseline
- 1:01:50subscription model because as it stands so it's exactly.
- 1:01:55Do you not remember the helmet? Oh no, I know that there.
- 1:02:00Yeah. No, no, no.
- 1:02:01I just it's not even about like our offering new things it's
- 1:02:05about pricing them correctly because like when you think of a
- 1:02:08little pass it's like okay through what?
- 1:02:11What are you throwing out of the game for a battle pass?
- 1:02:14It's like 999 something like that, right, 15 bucks, wouldn't
- 1:02:18be horrible. If they were like, hey, you know
- 1:02:19what, no subscription, 20 bucks for a battle pass.
- 1:02:22Here's the extra software, a battle pass and you'd be like,
- 1:02:24yeah, okay, they're losing subscriptions from everybody.
- 1:02:27So the battle pass is more expensive and really, they're
- 1:02:29adjusting blah blah like I could immediately rationalize it in my
- 1:02:31head but 15 bucks for a single Helm transmog.
- 1:02:37What are you on? It's like three bucks.
- 1:02:40Maybe maybe maybe right. Just yeah.
- 1:02:45What are you smoking? Like and that's the thing.
- 1:02:48These monetization stuff are done not by design team in a
- 1:02:54closed bottle. I don't see Ian has a Kostas or
- 1:02:58hlinka, right? Or Morgan day sitting down and
- 1:03:02be like, oh oh oh man, this story was good, but how can we
- 1:03:05nickel-and-dime them? I need a new Porsche.
- 1:03:07No, they're not doing that. It's an entirely separate team
- 1:03:11that is like going like, okay? What's the testing saying, how
- 1:03:15can we Market this that sort of stuff, and those guys are being
- 1:03:19pushed by their Executives to be like this.
- 1:03:23This game better get in return on money.
- 1:03:24If this game, doesn't make yada yada in the first month.
- 1:03:28You guys have done a bad job or caning, you and replacing you
- 1:03:31with the worst goblins, right? Like, that's that's the nature
- 1:03:35of this, and they're getting Pushed by the shareholders
- 1:03:38because it's a publicly traded company.
- 1:03:40But, you know, we're not here to talk about.
- 1:03:42We're not here to talk about capitalism.
- 1:03:43We're talking about Diablo Immortal, there was, you know,
- 1:03:46one other thing. One of the thing that made me
- 1:03:49Double Take and spit my coffee the other morning when I heard
- 1:03:53this, but I'm aware of what coffee you drink?
- 1:03:56And it's not good. This doesn't seem like that bad
- 1:03:58at deal. But go ahead, you know.
- 1:04:00So there's a like I don't think we've mentioned it before but
- 1:04:05battler had put out a couple of From videos on this topic of the
- 1:04:09topic of the monetization of Diablo mortal.
- 1:04:11There were some things that were said in that video, I'm not
- 1:04:15going to repeat them because it's blown into a way out of
- 1:04:18proportion but there was another YouTuber named Josh Drive.
- 1:04:22Hayes, who also did a video about Diablo Immortal and then
- 1:04:26did an addendum to his video where he mentioned what I'm
- 1:04:30about to tell you which is that there are two different
- 1:04:33legendary Keystone's. There's the legendary on that
- 1:04:37you get just from playing the game and the ones that you also
- 1:04:41get from from the battle pass and then there's Eternal
- 1:04:45legendary Keystone's. Okay.
- 1:04:49All of the legendary gems that you get out of these Rifts that
- 1:04:53you Empower with a legendary Keystone are bound to you.
- 1:04:57With just the regular legendary Keystone.
- 1:05:00They're bound to you, you can't trade them to other people.
- 1:05:03You cannot do anything with them other than use them or Feed them
- 1:05:08into a different gem. If you get if you purchase the
- 1:05:13Eternal legendary Keystone's, any legendary gem that you get
- 1:05:18from a rift empowered by a and eternal legendary Keystone you
- 1:05:21can trade to other players for silver which is if you remember
- 1:05:27yeah, well I mean through the action house, you put it up on
- 1:05:29the action house and you can get that through or you get silver
- 1:05:34in return for the legendary Jim from.
- 1:05:37The player that purchases the gym that you put up on the
- 1:05:39auction house. So you're further incentivized
- 1:05:42to spend even more money. Well, also like the other part
- 1:05:46of that is that any stuff that goes on the auction house?
- 1:05:49Any free to play player is likely to be utterly outbid by
- 1:05:54players who have stuck money in to get silver.
- 1:05:57So the auction house doesn't serve the free-to-play players.
- 1:06:02It just you you are unlikely to ever make a winning bid.
- 1:06:07On any item of note. So yeah, again it's in my mind,
- 1:06:13blizzard knows player mentality with a lot of things and has
- 1:06:18often fought against player, man, tality.
- 1:06:20A lot of the times that means like, no, we're not going to do
- 1:06:24that. Where you put these Loops in
- 1:06:25hurdles in and people just still blow through it even though as
- 1:06:28much as we descend devised it this is the opposite.
- 1:06:32They know the mentality and this is people being like yeah Yeah,
- 1:06:37we'll just turn them against each other so that they each
- 1:06:41want to turn to the store, to buy that power so that they can
- 1:06:47compete so that they can have their name on the leaderboard so
- 1:06:50that they can be in the highest Dungeons and stuff with all
- 1:06:53their friends who are also paying money.
- 1:06:55And that to me is what so disgusting about Diablo mortal
- 1:07:00and why it seems so far and foreign to what we would see
- 1:07:06from anything. World of Warcraft.
- 1:07:08Yeah. Because nothing in World of
- 1:07:10Warcraft has ever come close. Yeah, and it makes you wonder
- 1:07:13like, what, what monetization practices are they going to put
- 1:07:17in for Warcraft Rumble? They just announced that a
- 1:07:19couple weeks ago and I'm already I'm already just going to say
- 1:07:25I'm not going to play it because I know it's going to be the
- 1:07:27exact same gotcha pain, Loop box travesty.
- 1:07:32I don't know if they if they put out like those little models
- 1:07:34like those little models if they're like, hey Hey, I like
- 1:07:37it. I'll put these in packed Yellow
- 1:07:39by those. The game itself.
- 1:07:40I'm not going to touch just because like I've this lot of
- 1:07:42mobile gamer, the system itself, buying units, maybe, I don't
- 1:07:49know like but like also I'm looking at their past games
- 1:07:57looking at Heroes of the Storm where they would put Heroes out
- 1:08:01and you could buy the skins or you could unlock the hero by
- 1:08:04eventually getting the gold, right?
- 1:08:07And so for me I felt that that was fine when I was playing.
- 1:08:11I wasn't that super competitive. I didn't need to get the hero on
- 1:08:14the first thing. There was the free-to-play
- 1:08:16cycle, there was number of different things where I could
- 1:08:20play new Heroes unlock here. Rose and eventually there were
- 1:08:24some skins or I'm like, oh cool Mecca.
- 1:08:26Tassadar sure. I'll throw money at that and the
- 1:08:29Skins weren't cheap. They weren't like three bucks to
- 1:08:32skin. They were like 15 bucks for some
- 1:08:34of the like, the heavy the Skins.
- 1:08:36Yeah. And I thought that was fine.
- 1:08:39Like, if there was enough in the game was giving me enough to
- 1:08:42stuff. I was enjoying that free maps
- 1:08:44that they added in additional Heroes that they added in all
- 1:08:48the stuff that you could unlock with gold or immediately, it was
- 1:08:52fine. Fine, then, go over to OverWatch
- 1:08:54again. They were just add in Heroes.
- 1:08:56No charge. You could get loot boxes, you
- 1:08:59could purchase loot boxes. Right that to me, totally fine.
- 1:09:03There was nothing game-breaking upon it.
- 1:09:05Loot boxes for all the scariness that they were.
- 1:09:09I think they did a really good job in Heroes.
- 1:09:11Keeping it away from gameplay, affecting matters but yeah,
- 1:09:16Diablo mortal looks like a definite turn for the worse.
- 1:09:20It's on mobile, which means that I guess they thought they could
- 1:09:23get away with it further, but I'm tired of people thinking
- 1:09:26that blizzard is, is a different company than every other company
- 1:09:30they want to make money. There's different departments.
- 1:09:33There are people who get into this business, who are there to
- 1:09:36make great games. And those people are at blizzard
- 1:09:39and there at other companies and there are different things like
- 1:09:43different departments where their job is.
- 1:09:46To make sure that the company makes money and they have an
- 1:09:49effect on things and blizzard has that too.
- 1:09:52So if Diablo is a commercial success, which I think it
- 1:09:56already is, I've already heard about people throwing thousands
- 1:10:00of dollars at the shop and were two weeks in, right.
- 1:10:04Oh they're like that particular Story So within I think 24 hours
- 1:10:08of the game launching a streamer had spent over four thousand
- 1:10:11dollars on just getting Legendary Keystone's and through
- 1:10:17their gameplay of turning these these key stones into riffs and
- 1:10:21then trying to You know, trying to get the legendary Jim's, did
- 1:10:25not get a single five-star Jim through it, and then two days
- 1:10:28later. Literally 48 hours after that,
- 1:10:32an addendum to that story came out that they had spent over ten
- 1:10:35thousand dollars and still had not seen a single five start
- 1:10:39gem. So hey guess what?
- 1:10:42It's not a guaranteed five-star gem guys.
- 1:10:44So for those are like, oh, I've got to do it because only way,
- 1:10:47I'll get the gems. Not, you're not guaranteed.
- 1:10:49No, you're not guaranteed. It's just a boost.
- 1:10:52Right. So yeah.
- 1:10:53In that way, be happy. That the pay2win isn't a
- 1:10:58guaranteed pay to win, but also like its predatory.
- 1:11:01It's disgusting. And I also am really weirded out
- 1:11:05that there are people with that much stupid money, and that
- 1:11:08little money sense. Yeah.
- 1:11:10And that like too much stupid money, too.
- 1:11:13Little money. Smarts, they commented on it
- 1:11:16that they are, they're not a whale, they're a scientist
- 1:11:20because they were throwing that money at Diablo immortal.
- 1:11:22For science to see how much money it would take to get the
- 1:11:27gems that they wanted to get out of doing these Rifts.
- 1:11:30If they were scientists they would know about statistic
- 1:11:34relevance and no it doesn't matter.
- 1:11:37Like it's not like they are getting one chance per dollar
- 1:11:39and they've had thousands of chances there one player and
- 1:11:43their odds mean nothing on the scale of the I believe it's 10
- 1:11:48million people. No, sorry, I apologize over. 30
- 1:11:51million Players had pre-register to play Diablo mortal.
- 1:11:55Before its launch on June 2nd, right from the Apple Store a
- 1:12:01loan. And so, if I'm the Apple Store
- 1:12:03and Google Play stores alone, that doesn't count all the
- 1:12:05people who are on the PC beta, right?
- 1:12:10So your numbers were, irrelevant been your sisters, you could be
- 1:12:13very much the statistical anomaly, right?
- 1:12:16You're not a scientist, you're a fool.
- 1:12:19Your statistics are bad and you should feel bad.
- 1:12:23Episode title. All right, so with that covered,
- 1:12:28Let's uh, let's move away from Diablo because this is a World
- 1:12:32of Warcraft. Oh, I'd like to get a little bit
- 1:12:34back to World of Warcraft, if you don't mind.
- 1:12:36Yeah, absolutely. Okay.
- 1:12:38So let's talk a little bit about the Lord because we said we were
- 1:12:42going to talk about lure in the beginning of the show and this
- 1:12:45week, we're going to talk about the stuff that happened in Arden
- 1:12:47wield. The queen skiff, I've been
- 1:12:49talking a lot live. Do you want to talk about this
- 1:12:51one? Yeah.
- 1:12:52Yeah, absolutely. So one of the quest lines
- 1:12:55available called the Queen's gift, of course.
- 1:12:57And this quest line starts in orbis from lilacs Sprague, who
- 1:13:01sends you to Arden? Will to answer the Summons of
- 1:13:03the Winter Queen upon reaching the Grove of Awakening, you are
- 1:13:07met by strangers, feather, Moon, and to run to whisperwind the
- 1:13:11Cinematic that ensues is called the Queen's gift.
- 1:13:14The Winter Queen addresses Toronto and asked if she found
- 1:13:18the Justice, she was seeking Toronto replies that she did not
- 1:13:22come to the show. A land Seeking Justice.
- 1:13:23But instead wanted Revenge, this has been an ongoing theme in the
- 1:13:29expansion, exploring the difference between the two and
- 1:13:32how easy it is to confuse one with the other.
- 1:13:35However, since coming into Arden willed to Rhonda has found Hope.
- 1:13:40Again, the queen reflects on the creation, the new tier of elune,
- 1:13:45and how her relationship with her quote unquote, to sister has
- 1:13:49been repaired, the countless Souls of the night elves and our
- 1:13:52And we'll chose to imbue the tear and transform it into a
- 1:13:55seed representing that same hope.
- 1:13:58And renewal Toronto is almost brought to tears herself as she
- 1:14:03accepts the seed. And thanks the Winter Queen.
- 1:14:06So this is a really hopeful bright ending to a lot of
- 1:14:15Darkness that happened in Arden wield.
- 1:14:17Many of the storylines and Arden wheeled, really didn't get a
- 1:14:19conclusion and I'm glad that this ends It's not quite over
- 1:14:23because obviously that seed is going to lead to something.
- 1:14:27And in fact, Toronto goes and says like, oh where are we going
- 1:14:31to put this CD? And your Sarah, says, oh, I know
- 1:14:35of a place, but it has been lost for some time.
- 1:14:38Hint hint Dragon Isles. So it's clearly leading into the
- 1:14:43future expansion and it's our first real breadcrumb into what
- 1:14:49we're going to be dealing with at least in terms of the Green
- 1:14:52Dragon flight. In fact it's in this Christian
- 1:14:55where it's your Sarah says that know I'm bound to RN wheeled and
- 1:15:01I can't leave here without great sacrifice but recommends that
- 1:15:04her daughter should be contacted to figure out what to do with
- 1:15:08this seed and how to proceed. I really do like how this ended.
- 1:15:13It is enough of a finish while still also being just like
- 1:15:19another step towards a greater story.
- 1:15:22It parallels, the rebuilding of the undercity /.
- 1:15:27Ruins of Lord are on in that both of these races that were
- 1:15:31displaced and left as refugees at the beginning of BFA are now
- 1:15:36making their steps forward. Yeah, it's a good cap.
- 1:15:39Like both of these story lines that we've talked about, just
- 1:15:42like you said, like that. These are capping off storylines
- 1:15:45that they started all the way back in BFA and we're finally
- 1:15:50getting, you know, some conclusion to them.
- 1:15:52And it is a very stark contrast from where we started this
- 1:15:57expansion, right? Like we have we have the Jailer
- 1:16:01looming over us. We have we have the shadowlands
- 1:16:04this place that has not been not been a place that mortals can go
- 1:16:09willingly you know be able to go and then come back from and we
- 1:16:14get thrust into it and it's this dark gloomy place with
- 1:16:18oppressive music everywhere and you know, with the exception of
- 1:16:22or Being, you know, or bows and Bastion and are in the wheel.
- 1:16:27Yeah, yeah. But and mortis, you know what,
- 1:16:30three out of six zones disagree with you, but the stories that
- 1:16:37are being told through the questing and through, through
- 1:16:41the Covenant campaigns, is telling a different story than
- 1:16:45what what meets the eye like. There are some very dark themes
- 1:16:48going on in the story throughout this expansion and this This is
- 1:16:53a brief bit of levity that we're getting at the tail end of the
- 1:16:57expansion that was so very, very heavy with not just not just the
- 1:17:01themes through the stories but through through the color
- 1:17:04palettes that were used for the zones that we spent the vast
- 1:17:08majority of our time in being the maw of the most dark, and
- 1:17:12Bleak place that we have ever visited.
- 1:17:14And we spent a great deal of time in there and also inside of
- 1:17:18think of domination, which was an extension of tour gas, which
- 1:17:22is another Place that we spent an inordinate amount of time
- 1:17:25inside of this expansion. And it was all very dark.
- 1:17:29And we're finally getting some little bit of light, some shred
- 1:17:33of light, at the end of it. Yeah.
- 1:17:36And it's nice. Yeah, I agree with that.
- 1:17:39I mean, like, I wouldn't say it's levity, because this was
- 1:17:42all very serious. But you definitely brighter
- 1:17:45definitely turning towards very much that hope hopefulness for
- 1:17:50the future. Being in all concepts for like
- 1:17:55literally rebuilding, Brill clearing away, destruction and
- 1:17:58taking back the undercity. And then here a seed, a literal
- 1:18:02seed filled with the hope and the spirits of all those who
- 1:18:06fell at the beginning of the war being put into this, in hoped of
- 1:18:12renewal, and a new fresh start. And that shows also in Toronto
- 1:18:16who was very much Falling Into Darkness and rage and
- 1:18:20hopelessness and And coming to Arden wheel and being denied her
- 1:18:26Vengeance. But then also now finding the
- 1:18:29hope and the path forward and having the light in her eyes
- 1:18:33literally rekindled. So for me there's it may be a
- 1:18:38bit on the nose when you explain it all.
- 1:18:41But they have been very much using all of this imagery to
- 1:18:45show that turn to show that Journey that like loss of not
- 1:18:51just the people People, but losing herself into that rage
- 1:18:55and then finding her people and within her people finding that
- 1:18:59path forward, for those who still remain for those who, she
- 1:19:03should still look whore. Because when we went into the
- 1:19:08maw after tyrande, right? And like Sandra says, like, no
- 1:19:13come back. Like, we can, we can do things
- 1:19:15like you go back. I'm here to kill the Banshee
- 1:19:17Queen and to get revenge and all of this.
- 1:19:20And there were still people left back on as Are all people who
- 1:19:23still needed her. In fact, all of the leaders who
- 1:19:27stayed behind are like, we still need to make sure everything
- 1:19:30sorted here. We're still reeling from the
- 1:19:32consequences of that war. We need to tend to our people
- 1:19:36and we've already lost so many leaders.
- 1:19:39This is not the time for all of us to go diving in Q tyrande.
- 1:19:44Who's like, nope, Leeroy Jenkins jumped right into the portal.
- 1:19:48So there's been a lot of imagery.
- 1:19:51They're showing That even in our darkest time, there are still
- 1:19:54people to care for and to hope for and to build towards that
- 1:19:58better future. And now, the will of all those
- 1:20:02who have passed has literally poured into the wish for a new
- 1:20:07home for those who survived. So, yeah, I'm I am really liking
- 1:20:12this turn the Cinematic. This was all in-game cinematics
- 1:20:16and was fantastic. The camera angles, the Motion
- 1:20:22that showed on the face of all of these characters just the
- 1:20:28subtle gestures, they have stepped it up like even compared
- 1:20:33to the beginning of shadowlands. They have stepped it up.
- 1:20:37Yeah. Which like, you mention that.
- 1:20:39But like I remember distinctly at the beginning of this
- 1:20:43expansion being devastated by the amount of detail that went
- 1:20:48into, just the facial expressions, just the micro
- 1:20:52Expressions on the characters faces as they were as they were
- 1:20:57delivering their lines. I was devastated by that and
- 1:21:01then every single every single cinematic that has come out
- 1:21:07since the beginning has stepped up the game even further than
- 1:21:10the one before it. And I am just it is it is
- 1:21:15devastating how good Terran Gregory is at his job.
- 1:21:19I mean, like the entire team. I know the entire Tia Yeah.
- 1:21:22Absolutely. Absolutely Taryn.
- 1:21:24And his entire team, the just the raw talent in that room.
- 1:21:28Well, I mean, figuratively speaking in that room because
- 1:21:31they're all still working from home, but the talent in that
- 1:21:34team is palpable and I cannot wait to see what they do with
- 1:21:39cinematics going into Dragon flight.
- 1:21:42So holy crap II need to find out who they reference for Toronto's
- 1:21:48back models because damn but anyways.
- 1:21:53Yeah, I agree with you. There is so much to be hopeful
- 1:21:59for in terms of like how they're going to move the story forward
- 1:22:04because these are beets, that really resonated with me, and
- 1:22:09they're coming at the tail end of the expansion where a lot of
- 1:22:12it just felt kind of like, where did that come from?
- 1:22:15Like oh here's the reincarnated soul of Argos, and it's like
- 1:22:21we're in the world of this. From, and where is it going like
- 1:22:23this? It seems like a waste of my time
- 1:22:25and then to have that at 9.2. And then they have this, a nine
- 1:22:28point two point five, did you take a patch off what happened?
- 1:22:32Like, we're you just like, we gotta put our we gonna put all
- 1:22:34our power into this. Like I'm very thankful for this
- 1:22:38but it's such a night and day and I'm hoping, again, we keep
- 1:22:43using hope, right? That is not a matter of
- 1:22:46inconsistency. It's just a matter of them.
- 1:22:48Finally, having the course-corrected, and moving
- 1:22:51forward in the right direction from here.
- 1:22:52Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
- 1:22:55Well, with that said, let's take one email and then, let's call
- 1:23:00it a show. Let's this was sent via the
- 1:23:03Discord and this comes from Goblin graphics and so Goblin.
- 1:23:07Graphic says, since we are in the last leg of shadowlands, the
- 1:23:11one positive thing added was the new types of back slot. 3D
- 1:23:16transmog, item, What are some of your favorites and with
- 1:23:21dragonflight, what kind of back slots?
- 1:23:24Are you, hoping for in dragonflight, can you see 3D
- 1:23:29back items being rare item drops in the future?
- 1:23:33That players would enjoy in raids?
- 1:23:36I think, every expansion they kind of go like, oh, what's
- 1:23:41something cool we can do and we've seen some of it that
- 1:23:44bleeds forward from from the expansion into Terms of things
- 1:23:49that show up as well, the last time they modified backs was
- 1:23:55actually when we started getting capes with different silhouette.
- 1:23:59So, we had ones that had cutouts in the middle or shorter and
- 1:24:01stuff, and then now we've got the full 3d backpacks.
- 1:24:05We also had armor that built on itself, that wasn't just all
- 1:24:09flat that had like different things.
- 1:24:11Connected, look at the blood elf armor, that is so beautiful and
- 1:24:15Regal the first edition blood elf armor.
- 1:24:18If you remember so well done like that was a great set from
- 1:24:22that but also in terms of 3D backpacks hey torrent.
- 1:24:26Odom's that was a 3D backpack. That was your cloak that you got
- 1:24:31that big totem. So have we seen anything new
- 1:24:37that is going to come forward? I don't think so at this point,
- 1:24:42not that I'm recognizing. But what I would love to see
- 1:24:48Outside of the 3D backpacks is actually some stuff to do with
- 1:24:53Mount. We have dragon writing and
- 1:24:56you've got your entire customizable Mountain, all of
- 1:24:59that sort of stuff. I wouldn't mind seeing other
- 1:25:03mounts that were more customizable or unique rather
- 1:25:07than us trying to chase down this color of this or that color
- 1:25:12of it, that would be pretty cool, but I keep going back to
- 1:25:17spell effects. I just Would love customizable,
- 1:25:19spell effects. Give me that.
- 1:25:20Give me that. I would love that especially if
- 1:25:22you want to combine that with Heritage.
- 1:25:25So like the way that a mage cast their spells differs from the
- 1:25:33mathematical mind of an OHM versus the like Arcane studied
- 1:25:39history of a night, born versus like the raw tenacity and maybe
- 1:25:45rougher major Aft of a orc, right?
- 1:25:51Like I think each of those could evoke how they approach the same
- 1:25:56classes because remember, classes will no longer be
- 1:25:59restricted by race. So I would like the races to
- 1:26:05influence their class more in cosmetic ways and I think that
- 1:26:09would be a great place to put it now, getting back to the backs
- 1:26:13and the 3D backs. I think there's a lot of things
- 1:26:15that they could do. I would love to see them do
- 1:26:19things that are a little bit more animated.
- 1:26:22We have seen them do different tear pieces or even like the
- 1:26:27cloak from Nile otha, where it was the animated dragon wings or
- 1:26:33whatever, right? Oh sorry.
- 1:26:35That was a trinket that did the animated dragon wings my
- 1:26:37mistake, right? But yeah, we could see backs at
- 1:26:41our like that where it's like, oh, I've got a goblin jetpack
- 1:26:45and it just like, or hello or gnomish helicopter pad.
- 1:26:48Just go to cheek root and all those sound effects that I will
- 1:26:52keep in the edit, my answer. I'm a simple.
- 1:26:57Girl, I just want a little fluffy dragon wings.
- 1:27:00Just give me some little flabby dragon wings.
- 1:27:02It's all away. Go warlock, you'll get the tier
- 1:27:04piece. Don't do that.
- 1:27:05One more, don't do that. When we're doing Lords of dread
- 1:27:10fights because we will shoot you dead accidentally thinking that
- 1:27:13their demon. Wait, yeah, no learn my lesson
- 1:27:17on that, but didn't know that. Seriously, like, I think like,
- 1:27:20if they are to, you know, move forward with the renowned
- 1:27:22system, like they say, they're going to be doing and
- 1:27:25dragonflight, and we're going to be like, tied in with the, with
- 1:27:28the dragonflights. I think one of the Cosmetic
- 1:27:30rewards could be a little, you know, like like black dragon
- 1:27:35wings blue, dragon wings red dragon wings green dragon wings,
- 1:27:38bronze dragon wings. They're just like little little
- 1:27:40baby wings that they don't do anything.
- 1:27:42Except just sit there and like, do a little flap.
- 1:27:45That's that's all they do. And then like when you jump,
- 1:27:48they do a little Letter kind of like a catalog of the Morlock
- 1:27:51backpack. I mean, the more like backpack
- 1:27:54is perfect. You don't have to like who
- 1:27:56doesn't love them are like bagpack.
- 1:27:58It's like I don't want them to overdo.
- 1:28:01The one thing allow like do it with time.
- 1:28:06We still got regular cloaks in this expansion when they were
- 1:28:10when they were doing this and we still we got some cool new
- 1:28:14stuff. They did new her Stone Tech and
- 1:28:18we started getting He knew her stones and I like that those
- 1:28:20continued into the expansion. Each Covenant had its own
- 1:28:23Hearthstone that you could grab the zeroth.
- 1:28:26Mortis has a different her Stone as well.
- 1:28:29So like put it out there, make it and make it something cool.
- 1:28:33I wouldn't mind if every holiday they put in a new 3 backpack
- 1:28:37that is something different as well but don't don't overdo it.
- 1:28:42Like like it just so there's there's definitely a like a It
- 1:28:48can be found in that actually I think I think my real answer my
- 1:28:53real actual answer to this question is that I would like to
- 1:28:57see them go back and update previous armors that that are
- 1:29:04much more low poly I would rather.
- 1:29:08I would much rather them instead of you know, making new silly
- 1:29:12and fun backpacks for me to run around Azeroth with just just
- 1:29:18Make more dresses. Like the what is The Inquisitor
- 1:29:23dress? Oh, I thought you were about to
- 1:29:24say Paladin judgment can be a chat about in judgment?
- 1:29:28No, no, well, I mean, yes, do give me that as well.
- 1:29:31But, but like more more robe options.
- 1:29:35More just different types of rumors that are there available.
- 1:29:39Like, there's a lot, there's so much, so much in the back,
- 1:29:43catalog of all of our appearance.
- 1:29:47Catalogs that I would like to use them.
- 1:29:50They have nice colors, they have nice pallets, but the polygon
- 1:29:53count is just so low that I can't.
- 1:29:55Like I have this this one piece that I'm like, trying to build a
- 1:29:58transmog around it like it's like it's a pair of gloves that
- 1:30:01just look super awesome for a pair of boots that just looks
- 1:30:04super awesome. And then I start trying to put
- 1:30:07something together and I'm looking through all the
- 1:30:10different transmog options that I have available and I'm look
- 1:30:12even looking through transmog that I can go farm to make
- 1:30:17something work. Work something put together with
- 1:30:20all this and I can't because the one piece the, the robe that is
- 1:30:24available or the just the chest piece that's available, just it
- 1:30:29just looks bad compared to the rest of it because there's not
- 1:30:32enough, there's not enough pixels in it.
- 1:30:36So I would much rather them. Go back and try to update some
- 1:30:38of the older, some of the older, our models, especially some of
- 1:30:41the older weapon models, because my gosh, the difference between
- 1:30:45modern. Wow, weapons.
- 1:30:47And Like, even even the the redo cataclysm weapons, they put in
- 1:30:53our just abysmal, it's so bad. It's so bad to look at it.
- 1:30:59Such an eyesore that I would much.
- 1:31:01Rather, than spend the time there to bring things a little
- 1:31:04bit more into the modern, wow, wage.
- 1:31:07Well, godman. I hope you like the answer to
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