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I Hate Soccer #128 - Paula Kluksdal, Idaho Rush former President and soccer parent! · I Hate Soccer with Jason Collinsworth

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  SPEAKER_01: Paula Cluxell is a former board member of the Idaho Rush and former president of Idaho Rush, and she has been a parent of three players that played at Idaho Rush for three years.
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  SPEAKER_01: Her youngest daughter is now playing at Ole Miss after a year at Washington State.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is the first time that I've had a board member on, and she is part of my partnership with Idaho Rush.
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  SPEAKER_01: I did three episodes during my mountain and desert episodes or mountain and desert tour.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was a breath of fresh air, and a lot of you requested more parents being on the show.
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  SPEAKER_01: And this was a great opportunity to have a board member on and a parent.
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  SPEAKER_01: So enjoy getting to know Paula.
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  SPEAKER_01: I hate soccer.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, first of all, how often do you get to go down to Ole Miss to see your daughter play?
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  SPEAKER_00: I've been twice.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: Is that so hard as a parent?
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  SPEAKER_00: It's so hard.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's so hard watching on TV.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, the good news is it's streamed, so you can watch it on TV.
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  SPEAKER_01: But that is such a nice thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'm going this Thursday to go see her.
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  SPEAKER_01: Who are they playing?
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_00: They're playing Vanderbilt.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh oh.
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: I have a buddy that I have a buddy that coaches there.
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  SPEAKER_01: And uh they're doing really good.
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  SPEAKER_01: Play number two or three right now.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're third.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think they're fantastic.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_00: And it's, you know, we live in Boise Ado, so it's not that easy to get to Woolness.
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  SPEAKER_01: Is everything do you have a layover everywhere you everywhere.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's how Buffalo was.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: They had a couple maybe like to Vegas or something like that.
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  SPEAKER_01: But everything was a layover somewhere.
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  SPEAKER_00: We do have a direct to Vegas.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: But no, we lay over and we lay over a lot in Denver, which is a beautiful airport, but is delayed all the time.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it's not like you can just like leave the airport and go somewhere because it's kind of like in a hole where there's nothing around it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right?
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  SPEAKER_01: So yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: But at but so you fly into Memphis and then you rent a car and drive like an hour twenty.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's not that bad.
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  SPEAKER_00: No.
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  SPEAKER_00: And in the Memphis airport, there's this little shop with this woman there that I've got to know, and they sell moonshine.
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  SPEAKER_00: I bring it back for all my friends.
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  SPEAKER_01: Have they played Arkansas yet?
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  SPEAKER_01: No.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh I have a girl at Arkansas that I've been coaching since she was nine.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean I think Arkansas's good also.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think all those SEC schools are good.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, like SE all right.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, we can b we could talk about that.
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  SPEAKER_01: We could go so many ways.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_01: But was it where was she before?
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_01: She was at Wazoo.
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  SPEAKER_01: Wazoo, Washington State, right?
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So was that a culture shock when she got to SEC?
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  SPEAKER_01: Because it's like all the girls are giants, they're fast, it's more physical than some other conferences.
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  SPEAKER_01: Was she did that take her a second, or was she just completely fine?
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  SPEAKER_00: I I think it was a culture shock because it's the South and we've never been there and we've loved it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, they have they're so hospitable that it's been fantastic, but everything's all the girls are bigger, it's faster, more physical.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think the good thing is that um Coach Todd's team from Wazoo is really physical, and so they were expecting that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: But it's been really physical.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Really physical.
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  SPEAKER_00: We played two SEC, well, oldness has played two SEC games.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: You can say we.
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  SPEAKER_01: You could say we.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you're invested.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm so invested.
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  SPEAKER_01: I uh so I'm okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm from Kansas City originally.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_01: I'm a diehard cheese fan.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then if I post something, I'm like, we, we need to do this, and then people will attack you for saying we.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's like, what?
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  SPEAKER_01: I've been a fan since I was six years old.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is my team.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like, I support them.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
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  SPEAKER_00: What's it for if it's not for the fans?
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  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, don't even get me started.
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  SPEAKER_01: But yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: She just went through the transfer portal.
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  SPEAKER_01: She followed her coach who left.
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  SPEAKER_01: Who left?
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  SPEAKER_01: Happens all the time.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, did she even stay to see who was going to be hired at Washington State, or did she just go right into a portal?
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  SPEAKER_00: She went right into the portal.
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  SPEAKER_00: She loved that coaching staff.
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  SPEAKER_00: And also wherever you go.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, she wanted, she wanted to follow them.
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  SPEAKER_00: She she thinks they're great coaches.
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  SPEAKER_00: She trusts them.
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  SPEAKER_00: She thinks she learns a lot from them.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're tough.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
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  SPEAKER_00: That's good.
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  SPEAKER_00: She likes that.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that's your youngest.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's my youngest.
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  SPEAKER_00: She's 192.
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  SPEAKER_00: How many total?
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_00: I have three.
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  SPEAKER_00: She was only a freshman.
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  SPEAKER_01: She only did one year.
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  SPEAKER_00: She yeah, she went early.
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  SPEAKER_00: So she went the spring semester of her high school year, and then she played as a freshman, and then she left in December.
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  SPEAKER_01: How wow.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we could go so many other ways.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because go into that decision, because I have my girl at Nebraska and I have a girl at Wisconsin.
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  SPEAKER_01: They both went early.
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  SPEAKER_01: They graduated early.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you get such a head start.
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  SPEAKER_01: The girl that is at Wisconsin, she's playing 90 minutes as a freshman in the Big Ten as a defensive center mid as a six.
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  SPEAKER_01: She just scored her first goal last Sunday.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
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  SPEAKER_01: And if she I talked to her a little bit, if she didn't go early, she'd be behind.
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_00: I I can't agree more.
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  SPEAKER_00: Maisie played the six at Wazoo.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think she started 16 games as a true freshman and played 90 minutes in like 14 of them.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think it a hundred percent because she went early.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
• 5:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: My son played soccer at uh Westminster D2 awesome college.
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  SPEAKER_00: We loved it.
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  SPEAKER_00: He did not go early.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so as a freshman, he was he was just learning.
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  SPEAKER_00: And how old is he?
• 6:10
  SPEAKER_00: He's 22.
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  SPEAKER_01: So he just is he striking?
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  SPEAKER_00: No, he graduated in May.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, so you've seen it both ways.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, even at the the men's D2 versus women's D1, yeah, it is like a different sport because how many internationals were on his team at Westminster?
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, maybe like that's what tonight is.
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  SPEAKER_00: Four.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's it?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, that's good.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh no, maybe, maybe six, maybe six.
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  SPEAKER_00: See, okay the thing for him is he was a COVID year, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: So he graduated in 2022 from high school.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so that that was a COVID year, and so they had a really, really large squad at Westminster.
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  SPEAKER_00: But did you hear what happened to the 2022 class?
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  SPEAKER_00: No.
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  SPEAKER_01: So basically they were gonna be in the in the five and five rule.
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  SPEAKER_01: They played, some girls played two games this season, and then NCAA said 2022 is you can no longer have the five and five.
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  SPEAKER_01: You don't get to five.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you're off the team.
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  SPEAKER_01: They already played in two games and now they're off the team.
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  SPEAKER_00: I did hear this.
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  SPEAKER_00: I did hear this.
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  SPEAKER_00: And some left and went to do other things and then thought they could come back, and it was a really limbo.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm lucky my son's going to law school, so where's he going?
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  SPEAKER_00: He's going to U of I Boise.
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  SPEAKER_00: So he went back to Boise.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now, U of I, is that I because I drove you know around town and stuff like that.
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  SPEAKER_01: And is do they have athletics?
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  SPEAKER_01: Are they D1 or anything like that?
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  SPEAKER_00: So they're in Moscow, Idaho.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so the law school has a Boise campus, but the undergrad does not have a Boise campus.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So this is funny because they don't even have intramurals.
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  SPEAKER_00: The law schools here is very small.
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  SPEAKER_00: My oldest goes to Georgetown Law School and they have tons of intramurals, and she plays on the Georgetown Law School intramural soccer team.
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  SPEAKER_00: All the time.
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  SPEAKER_00: All the time.
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  SPEAKER_01: She loves it.
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  SPEAKER_01: She loves it.
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  SPEAKER_01: I have a girl at Georgetown.
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  SPEAKER_01: You do?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I have a girl at Georgetown, Rory Kingsley.
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  SPEAKER_01: She's a freshman.
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  SPEAKER_01: This team, this flash team was loaded, was loaded.
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  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, she's a freshman at Georgetown.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Crazy.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because in my role, I was able to work with so because I was supplemental and I got to work with so many great players because they wanted the extra training and stuff.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_01: And so I did that for about 11 years.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, one of the things that I've loved about my kids' journey is that they played on some of sometimes they'd play on this rush national team, or and we got to meet players from different states that we would have never met.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_00: We're from Idaho, boys.
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  SPEAKER_00: Idaho, you know, and they Maisie still sees them.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_00: She sees she's playing against some of them now.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_00: And Chase still, you know, has interactions with them.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_00: And and I love that.
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  SPEAKER_00: We would have never had the opportunity to meet.
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  SPEAKER_00: And these are really fantastic people.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: And they're good soccer players, don't get me wrong, but they're really better people.
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: I forgot that Rush used to do that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh they used to do like regional teams and then they would do national teams.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because GPS.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_01: So there was a uh a GPS uh global premier soccer.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um they were in Buffalo, New York, then the whole Visa stuff happened, and then they kind of became Rush.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it was the same model.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was the same model of let's play have a regional, like in Rochester, New York, and then if you're good enough, you can make the national team and stuff like that.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_01: But and it's another avenue for players because not all the Rush affiliates are in these, you know, or were in the development academy or the girls' academy or whatever.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_01: And so that that national team gave all of those players a chance further to be seen.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_01: How did your daughter well, how did all your kids get recruited for the most part?
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  SPEAKER_01: What was that process like?
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_00: You know what?
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_00: I I think that was hard in Idaho.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_00: I really do.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_00: Um we don't have as many colleges around this area, you know, we're not seen as much.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_00: And um, you know my two older kids, my oldest didn't play soccer in college, she tore a sale and decided that she was gonna go to debate.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_00: Go to debate, which she loved it.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_00: It was very funny.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_00: It's very funny.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_00: And I loved that because I always thought it was really important that my kids knew they were good at more than just soccer.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
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  SPEAKER_00: Like there's more out there than if you love soccer, that's great, but there's more out there too.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so I loved that.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but they weren't in ECNL, they weren't in the GA Academy, and and we didn't travel a ton.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_00: Maisie's team definitely traveled more.
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  SPEAKER_00: She was a 2007, so she was younger, but we didn't travel a lot, so it was hard to get recruited.
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  SPEAKER_00: And honestly, the best thing was people that knew you or had seen you play that knew other people that could help you make a connection.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like for me, that was absolutely what made or braid made it for all of my kids.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_00: For all of my kids.
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  SPEAKER_01: One of the reasons why I was so adamant about getting out to Idaho and I mean Utah is a little bit different, but especially Idaho is there's this narrative that we're missing all these kids in the inner cities that are playing on the streets barefoot and something like and I'm like, those kids really don't exist.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_01: There's some, but the kids that are being left behind or being missed are the ones in Idaho or in northern Nebraska or in Montana or something.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's who we're missing.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think it's these kids in uh downtown Chicago that are just mess little messies running around.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I don't think that exists.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's more about here.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's hard, it's hard in Idaho to get recruited.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_00: And on the boys' side, I mean, we have NNU that's a D2 program, right?
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_00: But that's the only D2 program for men's soccer in the state of Iowa and there are no D1s in the state of Idaho.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_00: So if these kids want to stay in Idaho or they don't have the means to go outside of Idaho, it's really hard to get seen.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_00: So we don't have as many colleges and and we don't travel as much.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_00: We're we are starting to travel more, but it's hard.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_00: It's hard to get recruited.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_01: So did you when did they get into the ECNL?
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_00: Um, like two or three years ago.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_01: So she had maybe one year?
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_00: May Maisie didn't have any years on ECNL.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_00: None of my kids were on the ECNL.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_01: So uh it's also, I mean, uh, we talk about the platforms, you know, ECNL, GA a lot on my show, but there's so many kids that are of D1 level that aren't in those platforms.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and and we gotta realize that.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I I'm sure I'll be talking to Ollie and about about that later, but I do I I hope this relates to a lot of people of you can you can play an old miss and not be in a in a platform.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely, absolutely.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_00: And I mean she's loving it and she's starting and playing playing well.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_00: She has she has room to grow.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_00: She's she's working on it, but absolutely.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, we're very grateful and thankful to people that believed in her and you know, put the word out for her and for my son and trust in her.
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_00: But outside of that, it's it's really hard to get seen.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_00: And so I think there are a ton of kids in Idaho that are getting missed because it's hard to be seen.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_01: So how so what else did you do other than you know, it's kind of like the proximity principle of like um all you know is this person or you know this person.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_01: Other than that, like was it ID camps?
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_01: Was it emailing everybody?
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_01: Did she already know that she wanted to go to Washington State?
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_01: Or like, or was it just like how did you go about that?
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_00: Um she she knew she that Washington State was like a dream school for, like a reach school.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_00: And she, you know, we put together a video, we went to some ID camps.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_00: ID camps were were kind of hard because it's a lot of money, it's a long way, driving or flying.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_00: And a lot of times they conflict with other life events, totally.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_00: It might be soccer, it might be something else, you know.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of schools have them like in the winter, like right around Christmas time.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, yeah, what are we doing?
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but yeah.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_00: And so she made a video and she emailed a lot.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_00: And when we would go to showcases, she would email and and then at at Wazoo, she knew a coach that was local here that knew the coach there, and he reached out for her, and then that started the dialogue.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_00: So um, she got really we're very grateful for that.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_00: And I and I always say that's huge.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_00: Like, if people offer to help, they mean it.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_00: So you should take them up on it.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_00: And that's the other thing I would say for young kids.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I made my kids, you know, send their own emails and do their own reach out and stuff because it's it's their journey.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_00: They uh, you know, they should be responsible for it.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_00: Sure.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_00: But I think it's hard, and I always tell people this when people offer to help, people think, especially young people, I don't want to impose on them.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_00: They said they would help, but I want to impose.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_00: So my advice to my kids was if they said they helped, they meant they meant it.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_00: They wouldn't offer to help if they didn't want to take them up on it.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_00: And so so both of my kids that played did.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_00: They they reached out to people that said, if you want me to contact someone and they said, Would you would you put in a word for me?
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_01: I wonder how many kids don't ask or don't follow up on the help.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_00: I think I think a lot because I think it's very intimidating, and you don't want to be imposing and you don't want to, you know, overstep your boundaries and yeah.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_01: Do you Okay, all three played at Rush?
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, all three.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_01: So you've been in a part or around the club for 19 years.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_00: 19 years.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_00: My kids played, and then my husband was on the board, and then I was on the board, and then I was president for the last four years.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_00: I stopped, I stepped off in February of 2026.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_00: I'd been on the board for six years.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_00: I thought they needed some fresh ideas.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_01: What was your like day okay?
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_01: Obviously, it's not a day-to-day thing, right?
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_01: What is because I've never actually had a board member on.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_01: This is actually Oh, you haven't.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_01: No, yeah.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_01: This is actually no.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_00: So we're a volunteer board and and I have another day job.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_00: I'm a lawyer, so I do that during the family, got it.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_00: I they you know, I didn't scare them off at least.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_00: They didn't think lawyers are all unhappy.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_00: So they went to law school because my son's going also, I was saying.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_00: But um, we have we have meetings every other month.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and we help out in areas that we can help out.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_00: So we have lots of different types of professionals on the board.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe it's a lawyer, maybe it's a marketing person.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_00: We have some medical professionals on the board.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_00: So when we get together for the board meetings, you know, we have tons of facilities and contracts and vendors.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_00: And so, you know, the lawyers would look through that and help and help negotiate that and talk about, you know, where are we going to get space and employment issues and HR issues and then marketing issues.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_00: And so the board basically oversees all of that, helps out in the areas that they can help out in.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_00: I actually was helped, I still help Jason with his contracts because gotta make sure that it's legal and legit and it will hold up and yeah.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, we gotta have facilities.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_00: It's important that the kids have great places to to train.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_00: And and then um the other really great thing about Rush is that um we really promote, you know, community because that's one awesome thing about Boise.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_00: I've lived my entire life here.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_00: I love this place, I love the people.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and the people love the community.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_00: And and Rush is no different.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_00: And we have Nations United, we have a program where we um have, you know, um players from refugees from different countries, and we help them get into the sport and get the equipment and and we help, you know, scholarship people that can't afford.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_00: And then we also do other community events like they do, break up Boise and and you know, just help out where the community needs it.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_00: So the board members would always promote that and come with ideas and say, hey, can one of the teams come and help, you know, this person, this elderly person's moving and needs some help?
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_00: And when a team shows up, it helps a ton.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_00: It's not a lot of time for them.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_00: So and you know, those are really important things for the community and important life lessons.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_00: So that's some of the stuff the board does.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_00: And we don't really get involved in like the coaching at all.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_01: Right, right, right.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_01: Because I mean, sometimes boards get a like a bad rap, but when you put it like that, like okay, you have law, you have a law background, you have a medical background, you have HR background, and then when you add all that, it's like because I've been part of clubs where it's just soccer people running it, yeah, and a lot of times it doesn't go very well because they don't have any business acumen, right?
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_01: Or how or or marketing or a lot of that, or they don't even have contracts for us.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like I've worked with clubs that don't do contracts.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's a handshake deal.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_01: It's like I guess 2026, you can't do business like that anymore.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_01: You have to be legit.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_01: And the board, it takes so much of that stuff off the plates of the soccer people so that they can just make soccer decisions, right?
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_00: And and everybody on our board, um, trying to think was a parent or was no.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, really?
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_00: Some of them were parents, some of them were.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_00: We had accountants who helped with, you know, the books and the financing were a 501c3, we're a nonprofit.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_00: So we're really very careful.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yep, very careful, and we do audits, but everybody left the soccer decisions to the soccer coaches.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, none of us were soccer coaches, right?
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_00: And my kids will be the first to tell you that I watch a lot of soccer and I would have no idea how to coach a soccer team.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_00: But I say things like run.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_00: You know, they're like, of course I'm running.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_00: So seems like a good thing to say.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_00: But um, so we the this board leaves the soccer decisions to the soccer professionals.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_01: When your oldest quit or her uh, you know, she gets injured and she moves on.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_00: When she came back from the injury and played and played great.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_01: For club.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_01: This is back in high school.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_01: In high school, yeah.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_01: It was the high school season here.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_00: High school season's in the fall.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_00: It's going on right now.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_01: How did you go again?
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_01: So did she feel like you know I So many players just identify as a soccer player.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_01: Did she go through any of that?
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_00: She went through this.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't know.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, injuries are really, really hard for players.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_01: And it's lonely.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_01: And it's very lonely.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_00: Unfortunately, like when you play as hard as these kids play, injuries are part of this game, right?
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_00: And she tore ACL.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_00: She was just at the end of her, she was in a club game at the end of her freshman year.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_00: And she felt like all of her people were playing soccer.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_00: And that's all she ever did.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_00: And it was so hard.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_00: And the surgery itself is really painful.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_00: And the rehab is not very fun.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_00: And the one thing that I have I told everybody who ever got injured after that, and I told my two younger kids what I loved about that is as a parent, I learned a lot there.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_00: I learned how important it was to teach my kids, you love soccer, you're a beautiful soccer player.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_00: I love watching you play soccer, but you're good at a lot of things.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_00: That is not all you are.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_00: And she, when she was rehabbing, got into debate, really loved it.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_00: And it was so funny.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_00: It was so fun.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_00: And then she came back and she played soccer and she played fantastic.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_00: And she said, I don't want to play in college.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_00: I I want to go.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_00: And she went to undergrad at UC Berkeley, and she was that was her dream school.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_00: And she goes, I want to do what I have to do to get into that school.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_00: And I want to be a lawyer.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_00: And she did it and she loved it.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_00: And you know what?
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_00: Her soccer friends on her club teams are still some of her best friends, but she has lots of other best friends, right?
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_00: She has people from debate and you know, people that you know she just had classes with.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_00: But what that taught me as a parent that I really loved was to teach the rest of you know my family would be my kids, my kids' friends, you know.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_00: You do soccer, you're awesome at soccer, it takes a lot of time.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_00: You have to put your heart and soul into it, but you have to develop these other things too.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_01: And you're good at it.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_01: You're good at them.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_01: Don't let it define you.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_01: Don't let it define you.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_01: Because I think i if it does define you and then it's taken away by something that's not in your control, yes, that process is even harder.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_00: So my son, he played at Westminster his junior year, he got a Jones fracture in his foot, which is kind of a common injury in soccer players.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_00: He had surgery at non-unioned.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_00: We didn't know it.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_00: So then he played his senior year on a broken foot.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_00: And even that was hard, you know what I mean?
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_00: Like, and we had prepared for this, it doesn't define you, this isn't you, but it was hard for him to, you know, he was still playing, but he was injured, you know what I mean?
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_00: And so it made it harder.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_00: And those are challenging, and those are particularly challenging, I think, for young kids who really love, I mean, that was that's their passion, right?
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_00: But he also really loves to work out and to run, and he knew he was applying for law school, and so we had these other things that could mentally help him, but it wasn't even easy when we had prepared for it.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_00: It was really, really hard, actually.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_01: How he's doing how is he doing like with the not having I who did I just have on?
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_01: I had a player on, and it's like I don't have anybody telling me that I have to work out anymore.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_01: Like I don't have I'm not training in the summer for the season.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_01: It's like I gotta make myself like go and work out and then make up my own plan.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_01: It's like I see a lot of my former players that are that are done.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_01: They're like, I'm gonna train for a marathon because I gotta do something.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_01: I can't just like sit here anymore.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_00: Well, he's lucky because he's coaching for Rush.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, he is wonderful.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so he's coaching and for graduation.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_00: I I got I bribed him to come to Boise and I got him a dog, a golden retriever, and she has to be run during the day.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_00: So she's we love her, but I used to have a golden we love her.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_01: I have a burnadoodle now.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, my sister has a burnadoodle.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_01: Oh they're fun.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_00: My sister's just we love her, but she really is crazy.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_00: She's so funny.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's great.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, I that's a that's another great thing to do.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_01: Saying, yeah, get him a dog.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_01: So yes, focus on that.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_00: That's a runner.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_00: And and you know, the other thing that I was thinking, and I'm not sure exactly, you said something that made me think about this, but I work at a law firm, and you know, we're really big on recruiting both lawyers and staff and paralegals from college athletes because it helped them learn how to prioritize and work really hard and be on a team.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_00: And so this discipline.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_00: And so when you're done, you know what I mean?
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_00: You're done playing the sport, you at least have that training, but it feels weird for them when they're done, right?
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_00: Their their time was so structured and so demanded, like not a lot of downtime that it feels like they have to pick something else up.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_01: I enjoy reaching out to my players that are done.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_01: The college players that are are just you know, not that they're done.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_01: And uh I have uh former player, she was at Cornell, captain of Cornell.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_01: She played her four years, done.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_01: Now she has uh you know a big girl job in New York City.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_01: And uh I go, and I sent her like a screenshot or a Instagram post of Cornell beating somebody, and it was a big win for them.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, does this make you miss it?
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_01: And she goes, not at all.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_01: I uh love my life and I'm just ready to move on.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_01: Do you did you see that in like your son?
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_01: Like he was this chapter is done, or was it the hard, like, what am I gonna do now?
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I don't think it was the hard what I was gonna do now because he had applied for law school and he's gonna go to law school and he's gonna move home and he has a dog and he's gonna coach and you know, but he really, really loved his experience.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_00: He loved his coaches, he loved his teammates, he he loved the school.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_00: And so I feel like that helped him, you know, be ready to be like, oh, it was really fantastic.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_00: I think he was disappointed that he ended on a broken foot.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_02: Of course.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_00: That's disappointing, but and he ended with surgery, yeah.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_00: Second surgery.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so that was disappointing.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_00: But I I think he felt really good about it.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_00: That being said, I I think he gets a lot out of coaching because he, you know, can actually play soccer on the field with the team sometimes if they need help and stuff.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_01: What age group is you working with, do you know?
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_00: Well, he was working with uh 14-year-olds right now right now, but he's gonna take over a little older team for a little while.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_00: So, but they're still high school kids, you know, they're ninth graders, and I think this he can relate to them very easily.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_00: And so I honestly think without some connection to soccer, he would probably really miss it because it is a passion of his.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_00: But he's he's getting that, he's getting that through coaching, and I think he feels like it's a good step and he's ready to go there.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, he really is loving this part of his life.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_01: So when I started coaching, I was starting to get burnt out as a player.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_01: So I was like a sophomore in college, and I was like, and I already started coaching in my freshman year of college, and I'm like, this coaching brought back a little bit of a passion that was missing because I was getting burnt out.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_01: I was goalkeeper, yeah.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_01: So it's like, and that's like the number one position for burnout.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, you know what?
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just gonna chase this coaching game a little bit, yeah, and try to coach at the higher or higher levels, yeah.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_01: And that does fill the void.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_01: Like if you're missing the game, go coach.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_01: Go coach.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_00: He's really loving it.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_00: He's loving the connection to the kids, and he he thinks they're fun, really great kids, you know what I mean?
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_00: And he he's like, I'm getting this opportunity to meet these cool ninth graders, you know, and see them develop.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_00: And he's young enough so he can relate to what they're going through.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_00: For sure.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so that's been really great for him.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, the inevitable, the youngest.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_01: She's a sophomore.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_00: She's a sophomore, she's getting the five and five employee.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_01: But maybe, you know, we'll see how it goes.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, sometimes some girls, like my girl in Nebraska, she's she's an 05.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_01: She was an 05.
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_01: She's gonna have an opportunity to play one more year.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_01: I might have to cut this out, actually.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_01: But uh um I won't.
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_01: I never cut anything out.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_01: Unless, unless the unless the you know, my guest asked is like, hey, can you cut that out?
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_00: Unless I swear all of a sudden, you'll have to cut that out.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_00: I don't even I don't even cut that out.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_01: No, but uh um I asked her, I go, Are you gonna do the five and five?
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_01: Because I need to try to get out there and see her live, kind of like what Ollie did with your doctor.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um so yeah, I want to try to get out there.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, Are you gonna do the five and five?
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_01: Or do I need to come out now?
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_01: And she's like, I she's gonna try to go pro.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_01: So, like in the summer, she was actually able to train with some NWSL teams.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_01: And fantastic.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_01: So she's gonna move on.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_00: Did you I hope she does.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_00: I hope she gets her dreams.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_01: Does does your daughter have any aspirations?
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_00: That that's that's her dream.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, she she played this summer at um FC Rain in Seattle.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, really?
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_01: They're like USL or the is it USL 2 or is it a UWS team?
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_00: I should know the answer, but they're they're not paid.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_00: So of course, yeah, it's all college players.
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_00: And it was really fantastic.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_00: And she's she was there with two of her best friends from club.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_00: And she in high school.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_00: She was living in Seattle for the summer.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_00: And that's fun.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_00: In a house with her best friend from high school and from club who plays for Utah State.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_00: Fantastic family.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_00: And Utah State's doing really well.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_01: I'm supposed to have that coach on.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_01: I was supposed to have coaches.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_01: No, LeMay.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_01: Wait, am I thinking of the wrong one?
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_01: No, Utah State.
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_01: Manny.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe I'm wrong.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_00: I I adore him.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_00: He's such a fantastic coach.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_01: Where is Utah State?
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_00: It's in Logan, Utah.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_01: How f how close is that to Salt Lake City?
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_00: Mm, hour, maybe 50 minutes, very close.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, maybe I reach out to them.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_00: Oh.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_00: About being a Manny.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_00: Coach Manny, and and all he knows I mean, he's he's a wonderful coach and he's such a great human.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_01: How do you know him?
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_00: How do how Maisie looked at going there and it was very it was we had a few that I mean that was the fun thing about the recruiting process that I didn't really talk about was that we got to go and meet these people and yeah, there were several coaches that like it was really hard to tell them no.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_00: Like we really loved meeting them and connected with them, and they're good people and they care about the kids.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_00: And I had a coach one time tell me, you know, like if a kid isn't performing and, you know, and maybe you're upset at him that the coach thinks and looks at himself and says, you know, all these kids that are here, they want to play so badly that obviously I'm not doing something right.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_00: And I love that because I met him and I met a lot of people that you can tell they care about the kids.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_00: Because if they didn't care about the kids and they only cared about the outcome, then they wouldn't have that thought process.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_01: So did you ever get a bad response from when you uh turned down somebody?
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_01: No, I have a player, I have a player that got like attacked, like verbally attacked for for calling off her talks and going to another school.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_01: Like this is so um this is so uh what did he say, like unprofessional.
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm gonna tell every coach that I know about this and about you and make sure that they stay away from you because you're a problem.
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like she was very glad she didn't go there.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, she's 17 years old.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_01: You're gonna talk to a 17-year-old, they're trying to make the like a decision that's gonna affect the rest of their lives, right?
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_01: And you're and you're gonna attack her like that.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, I'm glad that you didn't have to go through anything like that.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_01: I'm glad to, but that is a hard thing to do.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_01: I never really thought of it.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_00: Very hard because I mean, like we felt personal connection, then that I made my kids call the people, you know, the coaches and call them, and you know, no texting, no email.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_00: It's a call.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and you have to say because you took time, they took time to invest in them.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_01: So she's like shaking as she's like talking.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_00: But now when we, you know, so like Utah State played Wazoo, and so it was when she was at Wazoo and it was one Utah State won one zero, and it was such a fun game, though.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_00: And I was sad because we didn't win, but I was happy because of course Cooney and Manny won.
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I just had a MLS next coach on from Jaguires, and he was talking about the importance of going and seeing the campus with your kid.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_01: So let's say you're traveling and you're going out to Seattle to play a team in Seattle, go to some schools just to check out the campus, see if that's something that you want or somewhere you would enjoy being at.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_01: How many how many kids are emailing all these schools that they don't even know where they are?
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_00: Tons.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_01: Because I mean, like Utah State, I didn't know where Utah State was, right?
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_01: So, like, so did you make did you make a priority of like the ones that you were really getting close to you know, an offer where you were like, hey, we need to go there to make sure this is something where you could be happy.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_01: Did you guys go through that?
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_00: The ones that we got close to getting an offer, we definitely did uh most of them, like some of them no, because like some of them were in New York, like where um some little small schools.
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um there was one school in New York that my son was looking at.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_00: It was a really good business school.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_01: I can't remember the name.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_01: Was it towards the city?
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 37:40
  SPEAKER_00: Do you know what I'm talking about?
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_00: It's a really great business school.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_01: There's a lot.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_01: No, I don't.
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_00: But there's a lot of good three schools, and they're purple, their color is purple.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_00: And their coach was really fantastic.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_00: But so he was really thinking about that, but we weren't gonna go there.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_00: But but we did email a ton of schools that we had never been to.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_01: You have to.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_01: You have to.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_01: You have to you have to cast a wide net.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_00: And I and when we were looking at schools, I heard that too.
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_00: And and now that my kids have been through college and is at Ole Miss, I think that's even more important than when I was being told it because what if you are injured?
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_00: What if you don't like end up not liking soccer?
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_00: You're still at that school.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_00: The ultimate goal is to get an education.
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, one of my one of my players' moms said that.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like, if you if you have soccer taken away from you tomorrow, do you still want to go here?
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and it's simple as that.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_01: But if the decision is D1 or bust or SEC or bus or Big Ten or BUS.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like, can it can't be like that.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_01: No, and not everybody is good enough to be a Big Ten player or an SEC player.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_01: It's just not in the cards for everybody, or even wants to commit that amount of time.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_01: And that's another thing.
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_01: You know, the culture shock of like being the club player, being a high school player, being the best of the best on those teams your entire life.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_01: Then you get dropped off at college and you're like, Oh, I'm playing with somebody that's five years older than me, four years older than me, and they're better than me.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_01: Because they're further on their their journey.
• 39:27
  SPEAKER_00: Totally.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_00: And like um, Chase was 18, but Maisie was 17 when she went off to college.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, she was they were young, you know.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_01: So she was she committed pretty soon, pretty early.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_00: She committed um in December of her junior junior year year.
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_00: And she was gonna, she would have probably committed a little bit earlier, but she broke her ankle.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_00: So we had a little bit of rehab time.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_00: How she break her ankle?
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, soccer.
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, in a soccer game, yes.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_01: Turned it or was it a tackle?
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_00: It was a tackle, but um she was she was kind of distracted.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_00: She I wasn't there yet.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_00: She played.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_00: She played center back, but she plays the six in college.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_00: And I kind of love that.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, she loves she really loves the six.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_00: She loved the center back too, but I don't know.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_00: For me, the six, she just gets in the game a lot.
• 40:23
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's a pretty fun position to play.
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, all of my kids played center back, and then Maisie moved to the six, and I really love watching her there.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's fun.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_01: So she committed December of her junior year.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_01: Did you did anybody of her team or did any of her teammates commit before her?
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_01: And did that stress you guys out?
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_01: Or was it the reverse?
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_01: You guys probably uh committing probably stressed them out.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_00: She committed first, yeah.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_01: Because do you know what I'm saying?
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_01: Like, yeah, because oh my god because everybody is like, oh well, she's already committed, she's already committed, it's not gonna happen for me.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_01: And I've been telling some of my players and parents, I was like, the later you commit, the more likely you're gonna find a really good fit.
• 41:10
  SPEAKER_01: I agree.
• 41:10
  SPEAKER_01: If you commit we when Pizzino, you were talking about she, I'm pretty sure she committed to Florida State when she was this is before the rules started.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_01: I think she was already committed as like a sophomore in high school and she ended up transferring to Ole Miss and finding the right fit for her.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like if she waited just a little bit longer, maybe she just goes to Ole Miss in the first place.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, you know what I mean?
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_00: We we there were definitely people on her her club team that were worried that they were gonna be late because or miss the boat or miss adopted scholarship opportunities because you know she had committed, but when Maisie committed, the scholarship was different too.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_00: The NCAA changed now, they can give more full rides, right?
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_00: When Maisie committed, they could only give a lower number of full rides.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes it was like nine.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and everybody thinks that full rides are just everybody's on this full ride.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, no, right?
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_01: There's only I had a top D1 coach tell me that there's only like four to six fully funded full rides poll uh programs, yeah, yeah.
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_01: Only like six have twenty eight scholarships.
• 42:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, everybody else is splitting, yeah.
• 42:25
  SPEAKER_00: Uh people don't realize this.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_00: Because I mean, and I think like D1 might be a little bit different, like the big programs might be a little bit different, but I'm on the board of a college, I'm on the a board of trustees on a college, a local college here.
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_00: 60% of our students are athletes, and we don't give very many skull full rides because 60% of our students are athletes, and we have to spread that scholarship money you know across a lot of people, right?
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
• 42:55
  SPEAKER_01: I guess I guess how it used to be is in men's soccer, everybody just had nine.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody just had nine, and then I think the girls had something like 14 or something like that.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but there are SEC schools where we'll have a one that is fully funded, and then the rest, like some of them have 12.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_01: Like it's just not competing against brand.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's not a fair fight.
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, it's not a fair fight.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_00: How much money does the school have available for the funding?
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_01: Did that come into play when you officially uh decided on wazoo?
• 43:32
  SPEAKER_00: Well, um, definitely the amount of scholarship that they offered her did come did make a difference for her.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_00: And it was one of her dream schools.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_00: But she had a couple others too that we really loved the coaching staff.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_00: And so that did make a that did make a difference, how much scholarship was available.
• 43:50
  SPEAKER_00: And like I was saying, like then she committed, but that did make some other people on the club team worried that well, all the scholarships being given out from these teams.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_01: teams and I think you know that change kind of in being able to get more scholarships if the school has the funding available helps that but yeah did did you guys have some did she have some I guess like an outline or like bullet points of I want the I want a school that has a football team I want oh yeah size size matters and stuff like that.
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah yeah oh yeah oh yeah she wanted a football team she wanted a you know a a real school yeah she wanted that's mean but you know what I mean she wants to be an orthodontist so she wanted a place that had you know a good she's biochem major someone who has good biochem program that was important to her and why are orthodontists and not a dentist oh it would be much easier to be I don't know if it'd be easier to be a dentist but it'd be less schooling for sure.
• 44:56
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 44:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah when I ask her what she had braces when she was growing up yes so she says I like the thought of giving people a smile I'm like okay that's actually not bad.
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_00: I like that it's not very helpful for her mother since by the time she becomes an Orthodoxist I would take I think it's I think it's like seven years post um undergraduate so it's a long time it's like becoming a doctor.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_01: Holy cow I didn't I'll never retire but I mean so that's gonna play a role in her being able to play pro.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah yeah has she thought about this?
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_01: Because yeah I had a player that actually worked for me and how it worked for her was she was like she always wanted to go pro.
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_01: She ended up going to Norway but she waited until after she finished grad school.
• 45:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah and she just wanted to make sure I finish grad school and then I'll try to go pro and it happened for her and she did it and and she had one year away and she's like okay I know that I can do it.
• 46:06
  SPEAKER_01: I did it I'm ready to move on right that like filled that filled her cup you know what I mean so but oh in in your daughter's case it would be too long she would and pro is definitely her dream and she's gonna work for it and I hope she makes it and if she got the opportunity before finishing becoming an orthodontist that would probably be the route she would take see these are the decisions that go into all of this.
• 46:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yes we talk about professional athletes on the women's side especially it's like you're pushing a lot of life stuff away to chase a pro contract.
• 46:45
  SPEAKER_01: And I understand I understand some of the players that leave school and go pro early on because that's the ones that I know that have done that soccer is all they care about.
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_01: That's all they don't want to their dream they don't want to go to uh law school or med school and stuff like that.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_01: But the people that do want to the people that do have a game plan after the game is gone yes those are the ones that like are going through is like yes if I put this off I'm not gonna graduate college until I'm 35.
• 47:26
  SPEAKER_00: Right yeah yeah I hope people realize this absolutely and I mean it's a hard decision and at least right now she's you know focused enough to know like I'm getting my undergraduate for sure right on we're we're going to chips fall where they may and and the thing about the five year is and she takes classes in the summer they take summer classes um because she's biochemist she has a lot of labs so she tries to do those in the summer but you know she's thinking well if I if I do get a fifth year maybe I can start you know dental school old Miss does have a dental school so how did she do schooling when she was in Seattle it's all online oh it was all online except for she went through something up there.
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_00: She nope and but she reported back to Ole Miss the end of June and started in-person labs.
• 48:24
  SPEAKER_01: That was one of my next questions it's like when they were gone because you know and I'm sure Ole Miss has always done this but the Power 4 teams are always there.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_01: They're there the the entire summer like the my girl in Nebraska there was one summer I didn't see her because she was in Nebraska because they're training together and they're but now July 13th is like the start date.
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah so so they're gone and that's tough.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_01: But it makes sense to take summer classes because you're there anyway.
• 48:56
  SPEAKER_01: What else are you doing?
• 48:57
  SPEAKER_00: Right and I was and if you need labs it's hard to miss a lab if you're traveling during the season for games.
• 49:05
  SPEAKER_00: So it's good to take them in the summer when you're you're there.
• 49:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah what's her like schedule like how many credits is she taking right now in season right now she has she has two labs and four classes.
• 49:19
  SPEAKER_00: But how much does she miss?
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_00: So she doesn't actually miss that much because her classes are pretty um congregated on Monday Tuesday Wednesday believe it or not she has her what do they usually play Thursday Sunday right?
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_00: They play well so they play Wednesdays they play Thursday Sunday and then most weeks they only play Friday so they have a few Thursday Sunday games but because the season extended out that is so good.
• 49:52
  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_00: So they only play Fridays.
• 49:55
  SPEAKER_00: So when they play on Fridays if they travel they travel on Thursday she doesn't have class on Thursday and she misses one class on Friday.
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_00: So she hasn't actually been missing that much class at at Wazoo she did miss a lot of class because they traveled and if they would play like a Wednesday Saturday you know they would travel Monday after class and then they play Wednesday and they'd go to the next school and so they'd come back on Saturday night or Sunday.
• 50:26
  SPEAKER_00: She would miss a lot of school but at Old Miss she hasn't really been missing that much school.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_00: How are they doing right now?
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_00: Ole Miss Well they're doing they're doing great um they were seven and one in the pre-conference they played two SEC games they lost those two games so who else do they play in the SEC?
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_00: They've played Mississippi State and Auburn.
• 50:48
  SPEAKER_00: They played Auburn Friday and they played Mississippi State and then they got Vanderbilt this Friday Thursday Vanderbilt Thursday fun I'm gonna be there it's gonna be so fun.
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_01: I actually watched some of the highlights of Vanderbilt and I was like what that is insane so I mean it'll be fun soccer no matter what how hard is it as a parent when you get a phone call and it's after a tough loss and you're not there.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_01: Whereas you know a lot of other parents might be there.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah or is it or is it not did you go how many okay compare how many games were you able to go to Wazoo I went to all game every home game.
• 51:29
  SPEAKER_01: Because how far is that from here?
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_00: 37 minute plane ride direct well there you go a few direct rides and there's not very many people on it it's on Alaska so you could get upgraded to first class easier when you're 37 minute ride.
• 51:46
  SPEAKER_01: Where is Wazoo?
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_00: It's in Pullman Washington it's right across the border from Moscow Idaho U of I got it yeah yeah yeah that's hard you know one thing I feel super fortunate about is that all three of my kids played soccer and they're super close.
• 52:03
  SPEAKER_00: They're they're best friends and so the phone call usually goes to my son or my daughter as opposed to me because they can relate a little bit better than I guess the mom being like well I loved watching you.
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_00: Right yeah yeah and there's having that support system how close how how hard was it for her to leave Wazoo and all those teammates and friends that was hard she she met a bunch of people that she really loved the good thing is that there's seven of them that went so yes there's seven wazoo players that's right not all of them at once but oh yeah I was gonna I was looking at the roster I'm like Washington State Washington State Washington I'm like what happened and I didn't realize many of them were her very best friends.
• 52:57
  SPEAKER_00: So she got to go with that's good.
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_00: Not all of there are a few of course players left at Wazoo that she misses dearly and and other friends but it did help that she knew the coaching staff who she adored and had players that were some of her best friends.
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_00: And she knew the playing style and the coaching style right where do you think they're all gonna end up all the wazoo girls are all my kids all your kids are they gonna come back okay so my son is for sure going to come back because he's going to my oldest has a job lined up next summer in Manhattan.
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_01: Oh in Manhattan yes so she'll be she's at Georgetown she's at Georgetown but she did undergrad at Cal.
• 53:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yes and she's at Georgetown law and she's gonna go work for a law firm in Manhattan and you know what she really loves the big city life so what's the firm do you know Simpson Thatcher.
• 53:57
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 53:58
  SPEAKER_00: And she went and spent 20 months she lived 20 months in London.
• 54:02
  SPEAKER_00: She she worked at a bar before she went to law school that is amazing.
• 54:08
  SPEAKER_00: It's so fun it's I loved every minute of it Jason at first I was sort of worried about it and then I loved every minute she had to find a flat she had to find a job she had to start budgeting.
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_00: She did all of that she learned so much more than I taught her when she was here so was great so she's not probably coming back to Idaho is that how Idaho is do like are like people I need to get out of here but then they always come back or they always come back that's how Buffalo is they are like I need to get out of here and then they need to come back because then they figure out that maybe it's not as hoppin' and it's not as great as it is I miss my mom I miss and the people in Boise are amazing and we float the river after work or we go ride our bikes or we go up Bogus basin's a 16 mile drive from my house you know we go skiing we go boating it's just there's a lot of fun stuff to do but Maisie my daughter Olmis she's she's the wild card.
• 55:11
  SPEAKER_00: We don't know if she'll come back or not how okay no well I hear there's a lot of transplants here.
• 55:23
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah yeah yeah how how does everybody like get along with the people that are moving in from like California and like other places yeah because sometimes like I heard like here in Montana like they're like so sick of all like all the Californians coming in is that how it is here or are you guys more welcoming you definitely hear some jokes about it I would say but um I have a ton of friends like one of my very best friends moved here from Orange Orange California didn't even know his actual city orange county orange orange and um I Boise's pretty darn welcoming so we get along with them pretty great because you come here you feel happy you there's a lot to do there's a lot to do outside and I think you're just happier.
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_00: I think you're just happier.
• 56:15
  SPEAKER_01: I was here I don't remember what year it was it was probably 14 years ago I came here for a college football road trip uh we were seeing TCU versus Boise.
• 56:25
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah and Boise lost that game on a missed field goal Kellen Moore the current coach of the Saints was on that team.
• 56:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yes and I think it was Andy Dalton who's still in the league was the TCU quarterback but I'm driving around the stadium last night and I'm like I don't remember any of this being here.
• 56:49
  SPEAKER_01: Oh no we are we are really growing up the city is insane we used I where we were where we were sitting we were allowed to leave and like go back at halftime to go back and like fail finish our tailgate and then come back in and that's what all the parents did and that's what all the students did.
• 57:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah we were like where is everybody going why are they leaving and it's like they still do that oh they do they still go out at halftime okay okay I was wondering I'm like yeah yeah okay but the city but the city is just insane insane insane insane and we have Micron has the biggest construction project the state of Idaho has ever seen right and it's just it's a giant construction project.
• 57:35
  SPEAKER_00: They just released a news press maybe a couple weeks ago saying that they're gonna infuse one billion dollars into this AI program development that's gonna be here in Boise.
• 57:49
  SPEAKER_00: So we're growing and we're going to continue to grow wow we're huge and our airport's still pretty small yeah but yeah but we're growing man how do you miss being a club parent oh my gosh so are you are you don't always you don't always hear this but um Maisie's team in particular but also my other two kids' teams those parents are my best some of my very best friends we still get together one of them owns a bar down by BSU we get together and we watch um Boise the Boise Bar.
• 58:33
  SPEAKER_01: The Boise Bar?
• 58:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah okay I might go you should go there Lisa Lisa and um she has brats but probably not today because you have to tell her you're coming and she gets brats and we watch the games like Utah State where Cooney plays that is coming to play BSU like October 11th we're all planning on going.
• 58:53
  SPEAKER_00: Some of the girls played for Westminster they played NNU where is Westminster it's in Salt Lake.
• 58:58
  SPEAKER_00: Okay yeah um they played NNU we we went the mom or my dear friend Sarah had the team over and we went and met the team so we still hang out all the time so I still get to hang out with those people um do I miss going on trips with them and hang out by the sidelines with them absolutely I adore these people they're so fantastic and so much fun and I just don't get to see them as much because we get busy but I still do get to see them.
• 59:30
  SPEAKER_01: How is the team makeup?
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_01: Because you know some of these bigger or bigger areas I guess maybe you could have an ECNL team or just a club team that's represented by 20 different high schools is that how it is here or is it more consolidated like it's more consolidated.
• 59:49
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody like there's three high schools represented or it was more like that on our on my son's club team was a little bit different um because there were kids from Nampa and Coldwell and you know Meridian and even there may have been a kid who came over from Ontario Oregon um it's a long drive every day for practice but for for my daughter's teams it's it's was primarily two or three maybe four high schools um my youngest club team they were they were a fantastic team because they were bonded like really very very close.
• 1:00:33
  SPEAKER_00: So they were a fantastic team because there wasn't a lot of drama there was always fun to be around they were the best support system I mean some of those kids went through some very very tough things they were the best support system they they waited while that kid needed to heal and grieve or whatever it needed to go on and then when they needed them they were there and they played for Boise High most of those girls did.
• 1:00:57
  SPEAKER_01: So they were on the same high school team right and that's another thing that I find fascinating is that you're in a a high level you're a high level club that's almost a community club if you think about it.
• 1:01:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah and we don't have that we don't have that in Michigan.
• 1:01:16
  SPEAKER_01: That's certain we don't have that really even in Buffalo which is demographically it's kind of similar to Boise but they have like a radius of two and a half hours and kids are driving in three times a week or some of them have you know conditions where like okay you can train with your team but then you play for us.
• 1:01:35
  SPEAKER_01: And it's crazy.
• 1:01:37
  SPEAKER_01: So none of these girls end up being friends.
• 1:01:40
  SPEAKER_01: Some do some do like some there's like three or four or if they've been on the team for a long time but if you're new to that kind of environment it's not fun.
• 1:01:51
  SPEAKER_01: I just had uh David Murray he wrote a book he's a writer he wrote a book called Soccer Dad.
• 1:01:57
  SPEAKER_01: I saw this book yeah on the uh he was on the show and his daughter played for the Eclipse massive club in Chicago okay okay and his daughter kind of went through that she would be crying on the way to practice crying on the way home and it wasn't because of really even the what the coaches was doing it was how cutthroat the girls were because she was brand new to that environment she played there two years she wasn't you know uh she she knew a couple of girls but she wasn't like really good friends with them and it and basically most of her friends now are all from her college team she played at Ohio University or her high school team which makes sense yeah that's how it is we we did not have that experience and I guess we were lucky and you know maybe it's some of the Boise community because my daughter and myself we're even good friends with girls on other club teams like families on other club teams like these are fantastic humans right and they're fun to hang around with and they're they're neat people to know and I mean I don't know when my husband and I were picking Rush to start with yeah we picked it because we wanted the shortest distance we would have to drive to practice to drive our children around that simple if it was more than 10 minutes we were out like it's that simple yeah we didn't want I mean we're spoiled we never went to another club we never went to another club we we love that's amazing we love rush we love the community we loved what it stood for we loved the coaches I mean that doesn't mean that we didn't have some bumps but we met lifelong friends here there's I mean that's I don't know that many parents soccer parents that went cradle to grave right cradle to grave box to box yeah to with one club it doesn't that doesn't really happen it really doesn't happen everybody club uh club hops or is always chasing something you know the grass is always greener yeah and it's nice that you've like never we never never we never left and we have tons and tons of friends who they always were in rush right yeah and and we have lots of rush gear so we wouldn't didn't want to have to buy new gear.
• 1:04:25
  SPEAKER_00: Do you think you'll ever like come back to the board oh no I I but then I was on the board for six years so I doubt it because I have a lot of boards that I want to be on so um but I really did love being on the rush board.
• 1:04:44
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I love about rush?
• 1:04:45
  SPEAKER_00: I love that it helps so many kids.
• 1:04:48
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's not perfect for everybody but I I'm a lawyer you know what I mean and I wanted to be on a board where I felt like I was helping people in the community that needed help.
• 1:05:01
  SPEAKER_00: And and kids these days they they need it and sometimes you know sometimes it can be too much but they need support and they they need to have people there for them and stuff to do and you know and things to that make them be involved in the community.
• 1:05:20
  SPEAKER_00: I mean that's like I said one thing I loved about the rush is that we did community events and that's a big deal to John and I that our kids know like you give back to the community because we're grateful, we're lucky right and we're fortunate and we're we're gonna pay it forward.
• 1:05:34
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 1:05:35
  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
• 1:05:36
  SPEAKER_01: I'm so glad I'm I'm I'm glad that you're on for sure because I love being on this well I came so that episode with David Murray the author aired like two maybe two weeks ago and they're like you need to have more parents on and I go well a lot of parents don't want to be on because their kids are still in it and the repercussions and you know if they say something and they upset a coach or a director or something like that well they're gonna punish my kids so a lot of people they just DM me and they tell me all the stuff they're like can't I come on and you can like black out my face and like disguise my voice like they used to on like 2020 right no no I'm not doing that.
• 1:06:24
  SPEAKER_00: Like you're in the witness protection program use soccer.
• 1:06:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah but yeah yeah well when do you it's been a great experience for us and yeah and like I said we've met people from other college teams and high school teams and club teams that we love we love these people we have them over for functions.
• 1:06:47
  SPEAKER_01: Well it says a lot too that they have a for a former parent yeah to be one of the three that I'm talking to that says a lot.
• 1:06:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah right and that you're still involved you're not really but you are involved in the club my niece plays for the club a lot of people just cut out and bail once they're done with club they're like I never want to step foot in that place again.
• 1:07:11
  SPEAKER_00: Tips for down and done exactly how old is your niece my niece is a sophomore at Eagle High School and she plays for Rush okay awesome yeah she's she is a little baller I love her she's feisty what position does she play well she was playing in the midfield for the club but I went and watched a high school game and she played left back.
• 1:07:33
  SPEAKER_00: Oh left back really varsity as a sophomore that's good yeah yeah she played really great awesome thank you so much thank you Jason it was so fun to get to talk to you today absolutely thank you I loved it yeah I told you I hate soccer