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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome back, Patience Dance to the Central Indian Sports Report for this week's Pacers Report with Mike Rich, and this week's special guest, Michelle Garmin, of course these sports editor of the Tipton Tribune and Elwood Collider, and everybody's favorite.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Pacers tonight lost their 6th game in a row, 126 to 106 in Indianapolis of a 4-game home stand on their way out west to face Benedict Maveran and the Clippers before we get
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[SPEAKER_02]: Mike, do you and I were talking about before just kind of the same story every game right now?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the same exact theme, same exact players, same exact frustrations.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jerry's walkers looking really good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're happy he's looking good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is probably the most beneficial minutes that he's going to get for probably the next three seasons.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he needs to be taken advantage of it to make sure he continues to have a place on the Pacer's rotation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were competitive first half
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[SPEAKER_01]: They came back in the third quarter, but they didn't have enough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they don't have enough to overcome a team that's going to get ahead of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A degree with there with you, Mike.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Also, they're playing a lot of young guys now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm getting them a lot of young, a lot of the minutes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's a good thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It gets them experience.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It gives Carlisle on the pace of staff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: opportunities to see them against the NBA level competition to kind of make evaluations.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And who knows, there could be trades somewhere along the way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it gives mother teams film on these guys to see, yeah, you know, I think it's that it's nice to see Cam Jones get the minute he's getting 10 points in his fist tonight that's what you want to see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the same with Peter, the other rookie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of nice to see those guards get some time and be interesting to see what the Pacer thoughts are on their future.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's also nice to get Obie Topping some minutes to see not a lot and he shouldn't have a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's interesting because I'm not sure where Obie Topping's future is, is it with a Pacer?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or is it a trade piece?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Michelle, you just like took three of my questions.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was about to ask and just answer them and ask the question I was about to ask.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Mike, do you think I'll be top in part of the future of this franchise?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it'll be top in stays with this team long term.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was too good last year in the playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He played what 19 minutes in the last two games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd hate seeing go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's good off the bench.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's good on that second rotation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he plays extremely well with McConnell.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd hate to see that chemistry leave the basers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Michelle a couple years ago, I was trying to give OB top in a way I didn't like his fit at all with the Pacers and since then, his game has improved, his fit has improved.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's probably part of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: In tonight he played 11 minutes if he plays 25 he has a troubled double.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Five assists and 11 minutes, Michelle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was a pretty assist that he had to hop on that out of dunk there, I like it will be top.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think he's great for the Pacers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's great for the community.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He gets out and he goes and he gets involved and might there were a couple of tipped and golfers that were practicing or playing at Bear's Light and
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[SPEAKER_00]: and top and went to and another I want of his buddies were there and you know he took time out to to post for pictures out there with these kids and I think that's just great he's the kind of guy you want that's the kind of person that you want on your team in your locker room and in your community.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My question is though is there really going to be room for
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[SPEAKER_00]: especially if the patients would end up with one of those top picks and end up with the Debista or Booser He's my favorite AJ.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just call him AJ.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So folks when I say AJ that's who I'm talking about So, you know, that's just the key.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you have Booser, you're not gonna have top and end walker I don't think Because you already have it's the akum and
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, probably not, but I think anything we take from New York and is productive, we need to keep it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I agree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anything that we can you take from the Nixon make turn, especially turn of loose and have a be a New York, next killers then.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a good thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I agree with what you were saying, Michelle, his character and the community and his
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, his involvement in the community I like seeing him with his daughter out there and he shows a lot of that personal side.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember going to Noblesville and watching him play with Haliburton with some high school players and some college players and some players that didn't make the NBA and I think it was his first year here and just the interactions that he was having with the fans and, um,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really think that core of individuals that were on that team last year and I think he's just part of that and I think he fits really well with the chemistry of the team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jared's Walker, like I said, extremely valuable to him and he's stepping up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He had a slow start to the beginning of the season, but he's obviously where we were hoping he would be at the beginning of the season today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And good to see TJ McConnell have good minutes again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was spectacular in 14 minutes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's definitely part of the future lifetime contract of the way I really want to talk about, of course, as Quentin Jackson, because Mike, you and I have been saying for months now, when Jack is a piece next year, probably a 11th or 12th guy, a guy who's going to play emergency minutes, but he is a piece and
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[SPEAKER_02]: Kevin Purchered completely agrees with a sign and do a three year contract and I don't think we're going to see him with the boom anymore, Mike.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I was happy to see that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's a good contract for the Pacers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It provides good depths behind him hard and McConnell and I'm really pleased to see that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've got a lot of good things about him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fine, Angela.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not really going to be much of an impact on the Pacers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He took the minimum of my believe for the last years, basically an optional year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know next year he's got a little bit of guaranteed money's low risk high reward for that that pickup by preacher I think that was a really good move on his partner and Jackson is played well I wouldn't want him to go anywhere else right now yeah especially if you're going to pay him the minimum I think he's proven that he can step up and be an impactful player in a game and I like having him there
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[SPEAKER_00]: his athletic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's learning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He gets better every time he gets on the court.
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[SPEAKER_00]: His durability is a little bit of a concern, but you get him for the minimum.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why not?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if you have halibut back next year, if you get everybody, I'm everybody back healthy, having jacks and it's just perfect there because McConnell's aging.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't know McConnell at some point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: His minutes may have to go down a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I like him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's a good fit, and I love to see him rewarded because he has played really hard every moment he's played this season, and I think he's one of them, one of the Pacers who's made the most of his opportunities this season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and then become a really good player who becomes a full-time NBA guy, cool story.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Very cool story.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's earned it for sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, every week, Mike and I go to tankethon.com and simulate what is going to happen in the May 10th, NBA draft lottery, maybe the most important date in Pacers franchise history, or maybe not.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There are at least three potential franchise players in this too, we're pretty sure about in Booser and Debonta.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And every week, we simulate the draft lottery and whatever happens, that's what we talk about.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're ready, Mike?
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's wrong.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, the mock draft of Tinker Thong by the way has the Pacers at number two, taking Cameron Booser.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's everybody's dream scenario.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But here we go, we're gonna simulate the lottery and Pacers get the fourth pick
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[SPEAKER_02]: go down to spots and get Caleb Wilson is the scenario with this and I wouldn't be as happy as Cameron Booser, but you guys know how I feel about Caleb Wilson, and he might have the highest upside of any of them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's the best of the top four for the Pacers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's the
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[SPEAKER_02]: It goes boozer Wilson to Bonta.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He just is, there's something about a Michelle that is, he just floats on air, he's got all the instincts, he's got the talent, he's just a little raw.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd say he's of those three he's the last one he's the last one I would want I'm actually there on AJ because I think he impacts both ends of the floor and I think what I like about him is he's hungry and he's also very good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you guys saw the story on him and he's getting his NIL money and he's already like turned it into raising money and giving money for some really good
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that kind of fits in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was a Carlos Bruiser fan, don't get me wrong as a player, but his sons, I don't know if they've got that hunger.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I always like guys, it's really, it's the hunger because that's, I just like AJ's, you might like it on both ends of the floor.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's not playing, you know, because his big time,
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[SPEAKER_00]: teammate is out with injury.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he doesn't have a lot as much supporting cast around him as those other two and what he's doing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's phenomenal because I think when you're the target every night and you can still put up the number she's putting, that speaks something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It speaks volumes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Wish I got a question, your thoughts on Booser there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He plays hard.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He clearly has worked his ass off to become that good at that age.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think he's going to make the immediate impact.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's not probably as good a defender as the Bonsa, but he's a smart defender.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He makes a lot of plays on defense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I got to tell you, this is probably a bit of an exaggeration, but his floor game and college reminds me of Larry Bird.
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[SPEAKER_02]: he just sees everything, he's ahead of everybody, not quite at the bird level, but that's the kind of player he is as a power forward and I just, man, I would love to have him as a pacer, love it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I plus Carlos Bouser was clearly one of the hardest working players in NBA history because,
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[SPEAKER_02]: He turned himself from a second rounder who was an afterthought to a service of a guy, then into a rotation player, then into a starter, and into an all-star, a guy every franchise would want in about 10 years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And his son is starting at a much higher level and is going to be an all-time great, I believe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Most would be nice, but I think it would also be nice to have either.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Booser or AJ because if see I can go down next year with an injury, one of those those guys that person on that bench granted top and there maybe walker, but there you don't They don't necessarily bring the same elements.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's got a very high ceiling, but lots of lots of upside you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He can shoot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's a great passer, very unselfish.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And like I said, he kind of floats on air.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, good size, too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, yeah, 611 and can play multiple positions.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Can play center, could probably play small forward.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is a great power forward.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, man, any of those guys.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just, the thing is they got to keep that pick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really think they'd be a
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[SPEAKER_00]: Doesn't make the draft.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you've seen the stories everybody believes it was rigged last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're insolent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're owners.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The believe it was rigged last year for Dallas to get that after the Luka trade.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that you tell and the Pacers better give up on getting number one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They've never gotten number one and not absolutely added the silver's using them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't foresee them getting number one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They owe the, you know, these smaller franchises.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's just not for the patience of never thanked.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They've always been ethical.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They've done it right way since the assignments took over and they owe them one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it would be way too obvious.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It'd be way too obvious if, right, if you tell I in the basers, I mean, that's,
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[SPEAKER_01]: is it's what 28 30% chance of one of them getting what was the chance of one of them getting the top pick 28% something like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, I think if it's you know who I think if it's rigged the top pick will go to because they haven't been sharp.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think it's going to be the wizards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it'll be the wizards.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the bulls are the one to watch out for.
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[SPEAKER_02]: been a long time since that franchise has been interesting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're the ones to watch out for if they don't make the playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If the NBA is going to rig it, that's where they're going to rig it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't honestly believe that they rig it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It seems like they do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And honestly, if they do Mike, it just kind of fuels me to us against the rest of the world.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it makes me love the
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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree, if we end up in five to nine, I'm just gonna love this team even more.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What's wrong?
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll complain for a couple of days and then we'll start with, we'll move forward with the best five in the NBA.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We talked about one through five, probably the best for starting five in the NBA next year and we'll just screw them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When did any of you have Hall of Burton and Zubot?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, two potential all stars next year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you have a lot of equipment and yeah, McConnell and top it and a good draft pick is just a cherry on the top to really give management a headache of what to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and you know what, and these young players that we talked about that are getting minutes, like Jones and Peter, and even Shepherd, that could also be foresight a little bit of Kevin Pritchard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he thinks in the present, and I also think he thinks the year into the future, two years into the future, and on has kind of a plan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If the Pacers don't get to protect this traffic and they're five to nine, they don't get it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure he's got a plan in place with some of those young guys to maybe trade to get a player.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He feels like the Pacers need that if they don't get it through the draft.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think this season is just when, when for the Pacers all around, I think, you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am looking forward to the lottery in May and see where we end up and he said, well, we'll either be a little upset after May is it May 10th, we'll be a little upset after May 10th or we're going to be super excited after May 10th.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And either way, well, I want to talk about, yeah, well, I have a lot to talk about,
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[SPEAKER_01]: is a contender.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's just no doubt, and it's all four pig minutes beyond that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's beyond that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You just have depth and options.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think no matter what happens, they have options.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they got enough depth to still have options.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a question for you guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When do you think we'll see Zubot's?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe we'll we see him, niece, myth, and nem hard, and see Ockham all on the floor together, maybe the last couple of weeks of the season or two, because I think they're gonna want to play together a little bit just to kind of, even for Carlisle, just to kind of get a feel how they mesh, because I know the workout, but that's still not the same as against,
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[SPEAKER_02]: The word inside the franchise is the expect him to play at some point this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right now he's listed for Wednesday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So game, it's that that's the next evaluation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But today, he was listed to be a value to the day to play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's close.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But going up against the clipers would be kind of cool to see.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, be interesting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, guys, let's talk about the road trip coming up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Four games out west.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The clipers on Wednesday as Mike said, Benedict Maatherin's probably gonna score 40 points.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then Friday, they are against the lakeers so they don't have to go anywhere.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then Portland on Sunday, so they don't have to go very far and then Sacramento, all in one dominion place.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Guys, the patient is record on the road trip, Mike.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 113.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Michelle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'll agree with Mike, I'd like to see him get one, hopefully they do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One and three, I don't think they get more than one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Guys, you are being far too pessimistic.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I believe the Pacers can do it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I believe they can go 0 and 4.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And some of them are standing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then, if they can get far enough down there, they can bring all those guys back and win some games, because all they got to do is finish in the bottom three.
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[SPEAKER_02]: to get the same odds as the other two of those teams.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would love to see the last couple of weeks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, let's see if we can go four and one because we're so far in the hole.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I gotta say they're doing a fantastic job of the tanking.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're playing these guns.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're playing them 11 minutes, 14 minutes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I imagine Michelle might be on the same page as me when you look at the next four games we're thinking it's Sacramento, but I think they beat Los Angeles likeers and they lose to Sacramento.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Sacramento really does not want to win, so we'll see what happens there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Bad thing is, though, if you're one of those, if you're boozer or you're bad, if you're AJ or you and Wilson, do you really want to go play for Sacramento?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, you're hoping they don't get the top pick or one of the top three or four picks, because you don't want to go there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want Petersen to go there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that would be perfect.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So the perfect match, or the winner would be the perfect match for me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If these guys are smart, all of them want to end up with the Pacers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All of them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No doubt.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No doubt.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not only are they going to win, but it's a stable franchise that always does right by the players and if they're smart, they all want to be with the Pacers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, good ownership, good home office, good coach, and just great locker room.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, you get to play with, you play with Halbert, come on, I mean, you get to play with a bunch of guys who love sharing the ball, the future is bright for the Indian of Pacers, Mike Rich, thank you so much, Michelle, you've been a trooper all weekend.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you so much.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to talk to Michelle again on Monday, preview some boys basketball sectionals and please join us for that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And Mike will be joining me on Greg and his friend's talk sports as Michelle does all the time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we will talk to you next Monday on the patience report.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you so much, guys.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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