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10-27-26 Hour 2 - Is it Nuggets Panic Time?/Around the NFL/Oh, By the Way... · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: This is Mosher, Lombardi, and Kane On Demand.
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  Speaker 2: Listen live every weekday morning from 7 to 10 on
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  Speaker 1: On the Altitude Sports Radio app. We're all used to
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  Speaker 1: seeing Jokic grab almost every defensive rebound.
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  Speaker 3: First three games, by his standards, it hasn't been quite
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  Speaker 3: as good.
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  Speaker 1: Is that just a small.
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  Speaker 3: Sample size the way the ball bounces, or are you
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  Speaker 3: seeing something good?
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  Speaker 4: No, I think it's actually on the other guys. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I think a lot of teams are sending three, four
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  Speaker 4: guys to the basket.
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  Speaker 1: If it's one-on-one, Yoke is going to win the battle.
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  Speaker 4: But if it's two or three people attacking him, and
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  Speaker 4: sometimes that means that other people have to do their
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  Speaker 4: job better around him. And to your point, that's what
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  Speaker 4: our transition offense is. But the ball needs to be
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  Speaker 4: had first. You know, and tonight, again, they had 23
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  Speaker 4: second chance points, which is just way too much. And
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  Speaker 4: that's what they do. You know, Pajimski, all these guys,
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  Speaker 4: they crash. So he can't block out four people. You know,
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  Speaker 4: he's unbelievable defensive rebounder, one of the best ever I've
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  Speaker 4: ever seen. But that's a team-wide thing, and that'll be
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  Speaker 4: talked about as well.
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  Speaker 1: David Adelman after the game.
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  Speaker 5: On that particular note, let me tell you, he's referring
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  Speaker 5: to something that should never happen. You're playing a Golden
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  Speaker 5: State team last night that did not play a single
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  Speaker 5: player over 6'9. They didn't have a single 6'9 or
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  Speaker 5: taller player in the lineup. And they out-rebounded the Nuggets
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  Speaker 5: considerably last night, which is just not something that should happen.
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  Speaker 1: You can't have it. Not at home.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, 45-32. So I asked the question, is it time
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  Speaker 3: to panic? And it feels like a lot of people,
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  Speaker 3: the majority of the responses that we've gotten back are yes,
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  Speaker 3: they're panicking. And we all know the caveat to this,
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  Speaker 3: that it is three games into the season, and maybe
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  Speaker 3: it is a little early to feel this way. But
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  Speaker 3: I think you'd be lying to yourself if you didn't
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  Speaker 3: say something doesn't feel right.
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  Speaker 1: See, that's the key. It's not the result, Moj. It's
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  Speaker 1: the look. It's the process of getting to the result
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  Speaker 1: and what that is like. Listen, we've all been around
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  Speaker 1: quite a long time. Obviously, Vic and I, Brett... around
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  Speaker 1: professional sports a lot longer than you but you've been
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  Speaker 1: around a long time too and it's from experience when
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  Speaker 1: we when we say look it's not just the result
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  Speaker 1: but it's the way you're getting there that doesn't feel
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  Speaker 1: right it doesn't look right something is is off that's
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  Speaker 1: a real thing and right now the Denver Nuggets and
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  Speaker 1: at times the Colorado Avalanche they don't look like they're
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  Speaker 1: enjoying the game now it is their job I mean
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  Speaker 1: it is you know it's it's work you've got to
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you've got to be serious about your work.
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  Speaker 1: But I think people love to play the game. These
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  Speaker 1: guys love to play the game. It's joyful for them.
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  Speaker 1: There's no joy right now. And when you see a
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  Speaker 1: team that's winning, there's joy. When you see a team
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  Speaker 1: that just can't put it together, there is no joy,
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  Speaker 1: and then it starts to compound. Look, Vic, I just
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  Speaker 1: don't want it to get away from the Denver Nuggets
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  Speaker 1: too soon. I don't want it to get away too soon.
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  Speaker 5: The joy thing, I struggle with that because, you know,
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  Speaker 5: Brett mentioned it early how Steph Curry plays with joy.
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  Speaker 1: Well, anybody can play with joy when you're winning. Well, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not, I'm just, are they enjoying their job? I
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  Speaker 1: guess is what I'm talking about. Golden state.
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  Speaker 3: Wasn't they were winless going into this game. And that
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  Speaker 3: was early in the game when he was doing that.
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  Speaker 3: It's just, I don't know. It, it just feels to
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  Speaker 3: me like a lot of them are doing their job
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  Speaker 3: instead of playing a game. And that's, what's different. And, and,
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  Speaker 3: It's three games in. I know that he can be
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  Speaker 3: somebody that kind of doesn't take the beginning of the
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  Speaker 3: season all that seriously. But I don't like what I've
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  Speaker 3: seen from Jokic through three games. He doesn't look, if
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  Speaker 3: you were just, you went into this season blind, didn't
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  Speaker 3: know who Nikola Jokic was. He doesn't look like a
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  Speaker 3: top three player in the league this year. Through three games.
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  Speaker 1: Well, he did against New Orleans when he had that triple-double.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, numbers-wise, yes. But even in the middle of
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  Speaker 3: that game, Vic, he's usually shooting like 60% from the floor.
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  Speaker 3: He's not doing that this year. He's missing some of
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  Speaker 3: those bunnies and easy shots that he usually knocks down
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  Speaker 3: with regularity.
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  Speaker 5: Aaron Gordon didn't look right either last night. And I
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  Speaker 5: think the frustration came to a boil when he got
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  Speaker 5: ejected from the game. But we were discussing it on
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  Speaker 5: the post-game show.
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  Speaker 1: The explosion... wasn't there, right?
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  Speaker 5: And I hope, God I hope, knock on wood, that
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  Speaker 5: it's not him masking something that bothers him right now,
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  Speaker 5: you know?
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  Speaker 1: Sort of the J.K. Dobbins thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: No, I hope that's the case, too, because he makes
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  Speaker 1: this team go. I don't know, I sit here on
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  Speaker 1: this Tuesday morning, Vic, I just have sort of an
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  Speaker 1: overarching sense of frustration. Well, you should be frustrated. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I just... It's frustrating to look at.
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  Speaker 3: You're a really good fourth quarter away from being 0-3.
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  Speaker 1: You shouldn't be frustrated.
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  Speaker 5: Right now, they don't look the part. And it doesn't
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  Speaker 5: take a sophisticated football fan. Again, nobody's jumping off the
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  Speaker 5: bandwagon before people start clamoring, oh, real fan, this and that,
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  Speaker 5: bandwagon fan. These are observations made by three radio show
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  Speaker 5: hosts who are paid to provide their opinion on what
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  Speaker 5: they think of a team. And the observation is simple.
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  Speaker 5: They don't look right. And if you think they look right,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know what you're watching.
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  Speaker 3: It's funny. The bandwagon thing, I don't think it's coming
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  Speaker 3: from anybody who's a fan of the Nuggets. I think
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  Speaker 3: it's the people that wear the jerseys that have an
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  Speaker 3: issue with the bandwagon part of this.
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  Speaker 1: What do you mean by that? Oh, you mean the
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  Speaker 1: players themselves?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think any player is saying, hey, guys, why
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  Speaker 3: are you being so negative about it? I think the
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  Speaker 3: players are... Sorry, the fans aren't saying that. The players
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  Speaker 3: are the ones who are being like.
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  Speaker 1: Well.
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  Speaker 5: I guess my only retort to that, and you know
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  Speaker 5: my stance on the whole booing thing.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not a booer.
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  Speaker 5: I've never booed, but I totally understand why fans are
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  Speaker 5: allowed to do whatever they want. Would you rather have
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  Speaker 5: fans boo, or would you rather have what we saw
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  Speaker 5: last night? I walked into the arena from our studio
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  Speaker 5: there at ball, and I walked out, and there were
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  Speaker 5: about three and a half minutes left, and the place
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  Speaker 5: was empty.
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  Speaker 1: No, I'd rather have them boo. Because it shows that
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  Speaker 1: at least they care when you're apathetic and you're just
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  Speaker 1: sitting there on your hands and you're just staring straight ahead.
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  Speaker 1: It was a weird feeling last night. Nobody really, it
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  Speaker 1: was just sort of like silence and like, what do
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  Speaker 1: I do? It was like you're in church and you're
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  Speaker 1: not allowed to, it was weird. It felt that way
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  Speaker 1: through the television as well. It did. And I mean,
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  Speaker 1: partly because they're getting blown out and partly because they're
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  Speaker 1: giving up 40 points in the third quarter. Look, man,
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  Speaker 1: they were, they were, I hate to say it. After three,
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  Speaker 1: they're out of the game, and my interest waned. Everybody's
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  Speaker 1: interest waned. You know they're not coming back in that situation,
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  Speaker 1: even though they did against the Pelicans. Just trying to
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  Speaker 1: chop that tree every other game is just not feasible.
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  Speaker 1: It's not going to happen.
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  Speaker 3: I have a bigger concern, which is I think this
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  Speaker 3: is a lot more stomachable if– The reason why you're
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  Speaker 3: struggling is because the depth, which was a concern heading
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  Speaker 3: into the season, and the bench wasn't playing well. I
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  Speaker 3: think that would be something I'd understand. I'd be like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, you got some guys off the scrap heap,
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  Speaker 3: and they're going against guys who have maybe been bench
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  Speaker 3: players and role players. But the starters are the ones
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  Speaker 3: that aren't playing well.
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  Speaker 5: You know, this just hit me, and I'm not sure
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  Speaker 5: why it took me so long to get to this.
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  Speaker 1: Because they were challenged. Publicly, in the Minnesota series, right?
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  Speaker 1: Publicly challenged. They've been challenged already three games in by
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  Speaker 1: their own fans. Maybe they're just not good enough. Well.
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  Speaker 5: You know, because everybody wants to say, why aren't you
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  Speaker 5: playing hard? Why aren't you playing with energy? Why don't
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  Speaker 5: you try, try, try? What if the answer is.
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  Speaker 1: They're just not that good. Everybody... You reach to that point...
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  Speaker 1: Maybe that's it. Well, Vic, but here's where I... Am
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  Speaker 1: I reaching there? Well, Nikola Jokic, in my opinion, is
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  Speaker 1: still the best player on the planet. Jamal Murray's still
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  Speaker 1: an all-star. I'm not talking people just individually. I'm talking
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  Speaker 1: about the team. Maybe, you know, the team itself has
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  Speaker 1: run its course. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Do you remember the opening game of the year? We're
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  Speaker 3: doing the show that leads into it, and both of
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  Speaker 3: you accused me of being, like, super negative Nancy about
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  Speaker 3: things that I felt like were concerns heading into this year.
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  Speaker 1: I've never once challenged you on this radio show. I
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  Speaker 1: have no idea what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 3: You said to me, this is a very weird way
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  Speaker 3: to talk about the Nuggets with their first game opening
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  Speaker 3: up this year, that I was sounding like a very
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  Speaker 3: negative tone. And I just said, well, you talk about
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  Speaker 3: the age, like they look older, Vic. Part of the
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  Speaker 3: reason why I was concerned about letting go of a
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  Speaker 3: 23-year-old in the offseason in free agency. I'm like, you
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  Speaker 3: need some version of you.
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  Speaker 1: But you had to. You had no choice. You had to.
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  Speaker 1: I can't blame them for that, Brett. Hold on a second.
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  Speaker 1: Hold on a second. Hold, hold, hold, hold. Are you
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  Speaker 1: saying that the Nuggets have looked the way they look
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  Speaker 1: because they don't have Peyton Watson on the scene? No, no.
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  Speaker 3: It's not a solely Peyton Watson thing. But you've said
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  Speaker 3: that maybe they look a little old and slow, correct?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, but I'm, yes.
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  Speaker 5: But do you think Peyton Watson would have made a
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  Speaker 5: difference in these first three games and all of a
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  Speaker 5: sudden they're 3-0 instead of 1-2?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know where you're jumping to the conclusion of
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  Speaker 3: 3-0 instead of 1-2. Do I think that Peyton Watson
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  Speaker 3: could make a difference? Yeah, I do.
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  Speaker 5: I thought Trevin Brazil did what Peyton Watson did. does
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  Speaker 5: and even better against New Orleans.
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  Speaker 3: This has been my issue with the Nuggets over the
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  Speaker 3: last few years, basically ever since they won the title.
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  Speaker 3: They win the title and then they lose a player
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  Speaker 3: in the offseason. And it's like, that's okay, that player
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  Speaker 3: is being replaced by this guy. Or the next year,
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  Speaker 3: KCP leaves. It's like, that's okay, because CB is going
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  Speaker 3: to step into KCP's role. But nobody talks about, well,
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  Speaker 3: who steps into the role that CB then played coming
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  Speaker 3: off the bench? And so it's like, you feel like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: they cancel each other out. They didn't. You didn't improve.
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  Speaker 3: You've just replaced something, and now you're looking for something
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  Speaker 3: to replace the thing.
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  Speaker 1: That just left.
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  Speaker 5: I know, but I guess I'm just fundamentally, I'm going
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  Speaker 5: to disagree with you on the whole Peyton Watson thing.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody wanted to keep Peyton Watson.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: He makes your team better. They could not because you
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  Speaker 5: know the financial ramifications there. So that argument to me
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  Speaker 5: is a useless argument. You're not keeping him here.
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  Speaker 3: Vic, let me put this another way for you. It's
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  Speaker 3: not even a criticism of letting him go. Like I'm
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  Speaker 3: not even saying the Nuggets should have done something differently.
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  Speaker 3: But just the act of a team that is older,
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  Speaker 3: that had a 23-year-old with potential.
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  Speaker 1: That left.
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  Speaker 3: Is not a good thing. And so you're trying to
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  Speaker 3: search for that thing to come back in another way.
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  Speaker 3: Trevin Brazil, I'm super excited about, and he could be that,
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  Speaker 3: but it always feels like every year, like the Nuggets
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  Speaker 3: have went from a pretty deep team to less deep
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  Speaker 3: and less deep and less deep and less deep. And
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  Speaker 3: then every time somebody gets hurt, it's all like Cam
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  Speaker 3: Johnson's out of the starting lineup. What are you going
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  Speaker 3: to do? that becomes so much more magnified because you
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  Speaker 3: don't have things behind it anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, you're correct about that, but it's also just the
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  Speaker 1: brutal reality of the situation. It's the brutal reality of
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  Speaker 1: the salary cap. That's what it is. There's literally nothing
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  Speaker 1: you can do about it right now except to get
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  Speaker 1: through this damn season. Well, they can. I mean, they could. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you could have a sell-off.
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  Speaker 5: You could have pennies on the dollar.
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  Speaker 1: You could have sold things off. You could. You could.
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  Speaker 1: You could have. But that's also a fool's errand, Vic.
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  Speaker 1: You've got to put together a team.
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  Speaker 5: I know, but I guess you have to ask yourself
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  Speaker 5: the question, what is the.
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  Speaker 1: Limit? What's the deadline? How long do you have? What's
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  Speaker 1: the expiration date on core? Oh, I think you better
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  Speaker 1: know by the first of the year. On the cores
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  Speaker 1: of these teams. You better know by the first of
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  Speaker 1: the year. That's when you better know.
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  Speaker 3: Can we reverse back to the discussion that we were
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  Speaker 3: having leading into the opening game? Where I said, this
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  Speaker 3: feels like a blueprint season for the Nuggets. I said that.
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  Speaker 3: That if things don't go well, I think you could
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  Speaker 3: finally see the actual... You're going to keep Joker, but
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  Speaker 3: breaking up a lot of things surrounding him.
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  Speaker 1: You know what? I didn't lose. Normally, you guys know
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  Speaker 1: me most. You know me.
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  Speaker 5: When the Nuggets lose, I don't sleep well. I'm emotional
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  Speaker 5: about it. I didn't lose any sleep last night.
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  Speaker 1: But you know why? What did I tell you guys
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  Speaker 1: last February was going to happen this season? That I
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  Speaker 1: just sort of felt it. It was going to be
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  Speaker 1: a step back season. I just felt it. Because of
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  Speaker 1: the financial issues and It's just one of those years.
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  Speaker 1: You got to get through it. Got to get through it.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to see, Vic, I want to see
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  Speaker 1: the compete there. Out of the hockey team, too. I want,
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  Speaker 1: you need to see compete. But maybe they know what
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  Speaker 1: I know. Maybe they know what I know. Maybe they do.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe they do. And if you know that, human nature suggests.
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  Speaker 1: Deep down inside. Yeah. Deep down inside, you know that,
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  Speaker 1: then yes, that manifests itself in your play. Yes, it does.
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  Speaker 1: That's a fact. You may be on to something. You
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  Speaker 1: might be. Everybody wants to criticize and complain. Why aren't
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  Speaker 1: they playing hard? Maybe they know something. Just frustrated on
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  Speaker 1: this Tuesday morning. I'm not feeling happy. I don't have
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  Speaker 1: any joy. Look at my face.
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  Speaker 3: Tell your team to kick it into gear.
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  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, man. Davs, kick it into gear.
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  Speaker 3: We'll talk to Benzie about that tomorrow. Adam Schefter at 920.
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  Speaker 3: Stick around.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 3: It's time to take a look around the NFL as
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  Speaker 3: we do every Tuesday, starting with the early games. In Paris,
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  Speaker 3: the Steelers and the Saints, the Steelers edge this game
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  Speaker 3: out 16 to 10. I still, the Steelers are 5-0,
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  Speaker 3: and I just, my first reaction is, I don't care.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what to do with this team. Every week,
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  Speaker 3: every week.
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  Speaker 1: They're 5-2.
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  Speaker 3: I know, they win, and I'm, did you watch them?
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  Speaker 5: Well, there's a couple other teams that we're going to
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  Speaker 5: get to that you're going to have the same reaction.
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  Speaker 1: I know. Trust me. I know. All 5-2s are not
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  Speaker 1: the same. Broncos 5-2 looks way better than the Steelers 5-2.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, it does.
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  Speaker 1: Or Cleveland's 5-2. Don't get too far ahead now.
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  Speaker 3: So they're 5-2. The Saints are now 2-5 on the year.
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  Speaker 3: If there's one thing I do notice out of the Steelers,
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: Jalen Warren's having a hell of a year.
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  Speaker 1: He is. He can really tote the rock.
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  Speaker 3: How about this one? The Niners go to Atlanta, and
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  Speaker 3: they lose to the Falcons 29-20. dealing them their first
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  Speaker 3: loss of the year. The Falcons got three touchdowns out
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  Speaker 3: of Michael Penix. They actually held Bijan only 63 yards rushing,
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  Speaker 3: but two picks from Brock Purdy were costly in that
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  Speaker 3: game and pretty much kept them from staying undefeated.
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  Speaker 1: I thought Purdy was on MVP watch.
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  Speaker 5: He was headed to that. He might still be, but
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  Speaker 5: that was his worst game, obviously, this season.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so the Niners are now 6-1. The Falcons are 3-4.
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  Speaker 3: What a stupid game the Browns and Titans were.
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  Speaker 1: I just.
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  Speaker 3: The Browns don't play well, but they play against teams
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  Speaker 3: that are even dumber than they are, it seems like,
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  Speaker 3: every week. And they found a way to win. A
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: very dumb interception from Deshaun Watson leads to short fields
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  Speaker 3: for Tennessee. That game's 24-24, but Cleveland hits the game
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: winner at the end of regulation. They win 27-24.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: Cam Ward, by the.
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: Way, we are now with them being 1-6 on the season.
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: How many touchdowns do you think Cam Ward has thrown
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: for in those seven games this year?
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: I'd say four.
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: He's thrown for four touchdowns.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: I got it right? What is that?
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: Four touchdowns and less than 1,200 passing yards in seven games.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: I was in Nashville Saturday night and obviously for our
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: game on Sunday, Vic. And when I tell you there
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: was zero hype in that town for the game, I
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: mean zero.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: Why? Why?
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: Because they're terrible.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: What do you mean? They're awful. I saw one Titans
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: jersey the entire weekend. Nobody cared.
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: You know who looks like it'd be fun for the Browns, though?
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: KC Concepcion. That guy's fun to watch. The little tiny
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: guy running around.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: Dave Concepcion. That brings back the old Reds. Were you
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: going through the Reds rosters? Dave Concepcion.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: Browns are 5-2 somehow, someway. And the Titans are 1-6.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: I'm getting really pissed at Minnesota.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, hey, I heard the postgame interview with Kyler Murray.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Even he says this is all on our defense because
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: it is.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: They've got five touchdowns in the last five weeks, and
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: they're 6-0.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Kyler Murray goes 14 of 24 for $ 1. 50, and he's 6-0. Hey,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: good for him. I feel good for him. But, you know,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: in Arizona, if you recall early in his career, They'd
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: get off to great starts. Do you remember? The Cardinals
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: get off to great starts, and he would shine. And
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: then they'd come falling back to earth, second half of
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: the season.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: Here's the thing, though. Daniel Jones, just leave and never
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: come back. I'm so tired of watching this guy play.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, one of his first eight weeks of the year
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: last year.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: It's the only good football he's ever played in his life.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: You have a really weird....
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: He's terrible.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: You have a really weird Daniel Jones affliction. He's terrible.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: It's a fixation. I'm tired of pretending he's not.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: It's sort of a weird fixation, though. You do go
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: out of your way to blast the guy.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: It's awkward.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: And there are other guys around the league who are
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: equally crappy that you should probably blast, but you go
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: out of your way to blast him.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: I just talked about Cam Ward. Now I talk about
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: Daniel Jones. He's bad. So the Vikings win 16-10 against
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: the Colts because Daniel Jones stinks.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Moving on.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: Colts are 2-5. Vikings 6-0. Dolphins get their first win
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: of the year, 28-25 over the Jets. This does feel like,
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: you know, when you talk about hot seats across the league,
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: Shane Steichen's probably on one of them because the Colts
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: just fired their GM. Aaron Glenn's got to be at
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: the top of the list. And I'm an Aaron Glenn guy.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: I like him. Did you see the stat about Aaron Glenn?
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: You only like him because he coached on your team.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: I think he's a good defensive coach. He has no
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: idea what he's doing on offense.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: No idea.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: Do you know the stat about Aaron Glenn in the
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: last two minutes? since he's taken over as Jets head coach.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: What's that?
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: In the final two minutes of the first half in
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: his coaching career with the Jets, they have been outscored 107-6.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: You're kidding.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: In the final two minutes of the first half?
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: In the final two minutes of the first half, they
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: have been outscored 107-6 under Aaron Glenn.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: What the hell is happening there? Did they go to
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: the locker room early?
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: That's how you lose football games and you lose close
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: football games is that you don't close out halves well.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: But the Dolphins get their first one of the year.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: They're 1-5. The Jets are 2-5 on the season. We
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: talked about this game yesterday just because it's bizarre. Tampa
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: Bay Buccaneers won 43-13 over Carolina in Carolina. despite the
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: fact that Baker Mayfield, in his return to the field
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: for the Bucs, threw for 64 yards and 7 completions.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: You know why they won 43-13? Because they ran for 258. Yeah,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: because they had three different running backs get off.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: Well, they also turned.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Bucky Irving was.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: Go ahead. They also had four takeaways.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: That is correct, but I mean... Then they just gave
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: the ball to three different running backs, especially Bucky Irving,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: and they ran for 258 yards as a team.
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: What am I supposed to think about Carolina?
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Because the Broncos faced them the following week. Are they
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: any good? What are they?
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Here's Carolina's season. The first week of the year, they
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: lost 59-37 to Chicago. Then they won against Atlanta 34-3.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: Then they lost to the Browns 21-18. Then they beat
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: Detroit 32-26. Then they beat Philly in Philly 25-14 and
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: lost by 30 to the Bucs.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: So it's feast or famine for the Carolina Panthers.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: So, Vic, one of two things is going to happen
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: when they play against the Broncos. They're going to beat
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: Denver or they'll lose by 50.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Pretty much.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: So the Bucs are 2-5 and the Panthers are 3-3.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Hey, watch out now. This is where it starts to
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: get a little scary.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: Hang on a second.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: What?
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: This game was weird. Cincinnati goes to Baltimore to play
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: against the Ravens, another game in which Lamar Jackson is out,
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: and it's Snoop Huntley starting at QB. Cincinnati was down
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: 13-0 at half.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: That is correct.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: They couldn't do anything on offense.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Nope, couldn't do a damn thing.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: They still can't run the football at all with Chase Brown.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Nope, zero.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: But in the second half, Joe Burrow connects with Tee
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: Higgins and Jamar Chase and his tight ends for 35 points.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: And they win 35-13. So Cincinnati, I also, like, I
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: don't trust that team at all. They're obviously talented enough,
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: especially on offense. where they can score 28 in four
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: possessions and then win a football game. But very untrustworthy.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: They are very untrustworthy.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: When the Ravens get– the Ravens, it turns out they
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: really do need Lamar Jackson. I thought Huntley was going
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: to be fine, and he was that first week filling in,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: but he's been bad the last two games.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Bad.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: So they are now 4-2. The Ravens are 4-3.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Okay, I want to talk about this one.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: Giants and Texans. This game goes into OT. Devin Singletary
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: runs it in for a touchdown. Giants win. They're now
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: 4-2-1 on the air.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Well, smack me in the head and call me Judy
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: because I didn't see this happening. I didn't see J.J.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: McCarthy coming in going 20 of 28 for 252 and
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: leading that team to a win in Houston. He may
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: very well steal that quarterback.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: Job no matter what happens.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: What in the heck happened there?
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: They like Dart, though. Of course they like Dart.
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: They may like him, but. They like Drew Bledsoe in
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: New England until Brady arrives. I'm not saying that's going
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: in that direction. If this guy can revive the season.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Well, how about himself, Vic? He was on the scrap
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: heap of Minnesota. The Giants were like, God, we just
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: need another live body. We'll trade for him. And he
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: steps in for Jameis last week. Has a great second half.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Starts this week, and they win the game on the
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: road in Houston.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not doing the McCarthy thing yet. I just
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: can't bring.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Myself to do it. It's way too early, but my
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: goodness gracious, dude. You think Jackson Darts is better? He's looked... Yes,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: I think Jackson Darts is better. I don't think Jackson
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Darts is proving he's better. Did you see some of
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: the throws that he made?
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: No, he looked good in that game. I'm not saying
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: he didn't. I'm also saying that if you can't look
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: good with Kevin O'Connell, I don't know if you just
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: find it magically somewhere else. Maybe he does. Like, maybe
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: this is... Another quarterback resurgence at another location. I don't know.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: Cam Scadaboo, by the way, ran somebody over and then
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: got flagged for it, which I thought was funny.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: He doesn't care either. He's like, I'll keep running people over.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: They could find me. Till kingdom come. I don't care.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: If you guys remember last week, there was a controversy.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: Cam Scadaboo got zero carries in last week's game. And
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: Harbaugh was like, yeah, it's just, you know, the way
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: the game went.
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: And now he goes 17 carries, 124, and he's running
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: people over.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So the Giants are now 4-2-1. Here's what's interesting.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: Somebody laid this out. The NFC North, I don't know
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: if this has ever happened. I'll look it up in
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: a second. They might get four teams into the playoffs
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: with how bad the rest of the NFC is. The
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: NFC North might get every team in the playoffs. Even
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: if they don't, if the Vikings make the playoffs but
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: don't get the one seed or maybe they get the five,
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: They could match up against the Giants if they win
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: the crappy NFC East, which could be J.J. McCarthy playing
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: Minnesota in Minnesota. That would be really crazy. Which would
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: also be, if J.J. McCarthy wins that game, unbelievable television.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: It's way down the line, but it could set up
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: that way. But anyway, they're 4-2-1, and the Texans are 2-5.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: Packers and Lions. Lions win this game 20-17. A lot
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: of controversy surrounding this game.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: A lot.
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: So as a passionate Lions fan, can you tell me,
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: did the Packers get screwed by the refs?
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: No, they were on the side of some bad calls.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: They also missed 26-yard field goals and didn't catch the
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: ball in the end zone. Like, they got bad calls.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: The Packers, think about what happened in that game, though,
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: and I want to get your guys' thoughts on this
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: just real quick. They missed two chip shots, two kicks
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: within 35 yards they missed in that game.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: One was blocked. Yes.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: Josh Jacobs drops the ball in the end zone that
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: would have put him up a touchdown. They get the
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: ball at the 24-yard line with five minutes left because
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: Dan Campbell went for it on fourth and one at
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: his own 24.
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: Listen, and I know what your response is going to be.
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: Your refrain is very predictable because you say this.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Well, he does it all the time. It's okay. Are
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: you okay with him going for it there? No. I
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: have a bigger.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: They would have fought on fourth and five when they
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: were in field goal range with a tie game earlier
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: in the game. I had a bigger problem with that.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: His reasoning behind it, and I guess it can make sense.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: The Lions' defense is so bad, and Jordan Love is
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: so good. If they punt the football away, Jordan Love
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: could have melted the clock and kicked the game winner.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: And he goes, I just wanted our offense to get
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: the ball back no matter what. And from that standpoint,
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, you can kind of make sense.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: So he's sort of like in let them score mode?
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: Pretty much.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: He's like, I want the ball last. If they don't
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: get it, they're going to score, kick a field goal,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: but they're not going to bleed some 10-play drive down
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: the field and bleed the entire clock out.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: If this kind of thing matters to you, because I've
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: never seen this go the other way, the analytics said
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: to go for it. I've never seen them say punt.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: I've never seen, let's go look at what the analytics say.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: They say to punt the football. It never happened. But
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: Lions win. They're 4-2. The Packers are now 4-3.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: What did the analytics say last year? For the Seattle
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Seahawks against the Broncos. After you threw a pick at
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: the end of regulation and then you're in overtime. Just
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: punted away to the Broncos. They ain't going anywhere anyway.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: Rams and Raiders. Raiders had that fun 3-0 start to
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: the year, right? They've lost four straight now. They still
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: haven't looked bad. They aren't a bad football team.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: No, they're not a bad football team, but they've had
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: what was magical in the first three weeks for them,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: that's gone away. I mean, they played the Chiefs tough.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: They got blown out at the Patriots. Okay, fine. But
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: they played the Bills tough. They played the Rams sort
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: of semi-tough. And there's talk. Is it Mendoza time?
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: Well, the Rams, who desperately needed a win. They dominated
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: the first half, and that's all they really needed. They
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: won 35-21. Davis Allen, the tight end, had two touchdowns.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys know this. Did you
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: know it was National Tight End Day? Because I had
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: no idea it was National Tight End Day.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: I did hear that it was.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: Until somebody told me it was National Tight End Day.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: Then a tight end caught a pass, and I heard
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: it was National Tight End Day. And then after that,
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: when they said it was National Tight End Day, they
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: went to another game where it was National Tight End Day,
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: and it was National Tight End Day. Did you guys
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: know that?
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Okay, so you weren't being serious. Oh, my God.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Can people shut up about National Tight End Day?
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Who comes up with these days?
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: And you guys know my feelings about Scott Hanson. If
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: he said National Tight End Day one more time, I
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: was going to break my television.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Who comes up with these days? Who is the official day?
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: It was Kittle. Kittle did it. He just decided it
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: was going to be National Tight End Day one day.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: And then we all ran with it.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: But the Rams 3-4, the Raiders also 3-4. Sunday night game,
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: Chiefs and Seahawks. I didn't expect it. Not like that.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, the Seahawks absolutely shut down the Chiefs running game.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: And when that happened, they had no answer in the
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: pass game. It was maybe the worst game Mahomes has
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: played statistically in his career.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: He was awful from start to finish. He was fairly
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: matter-of-fact about it after the contest. He didn't seem too
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: bent out of shape, but it was a bad game
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: for him. It was a bad game for the offense totally.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: Seahawks win 20-3 as they get to 4-3 on the year,
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: and the Chiefs are dealt their first loss at 5-1.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: And we haven't really talked about it, but the Cowboys
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: and Eagles last night Eagles couldn't stop the Cowboys from
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: getting in the end zone. They went 38-21.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Eagles are battered that season.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: I don't care.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: That was the most... I barely even watched any of
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: that game. I'm like, this has no consequence whatsoever. The
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: NFC East, first of all, is just... Ridiculously awful.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, we're not even halfway through the season.
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: I've seen the Cowboys in primetime so many times, I
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: just can't even stand it anymore.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: But it comes down to really, I think, two teams
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: in that division. If you had to put money down
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: right now, is it the Cowboys or the Giants that
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: win it?
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: That's probably what it's going to come down to.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: And I would say I'm going to trust Dak Prescott
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: in that offense way more than I'll trust New York
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: for now.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Did you see who was sitting with Jerry Jones last night?
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: I did not. Stephen A. Stephen A. Yeah. Who notoriously
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: bags on the Cowboys, right? And their fans. Notoriously. That's
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: an act.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Come on.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody's just hanging out with Jerry Jones in the box.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Just two peas in a pod, just hanging out.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: So the Cowboys 3-4, the Eagles now 3-5, and that
• 30:04
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  Speaker 3: Adam Schefter at 920, but this is Oh, By the Way,
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  Speaker 3: stories around sports and the world we feel like you
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  Speaker 1: You guys ever, I'll start, Vic. Oh, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: quick question about, it's something different coming up here momentarily,
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  Speaker 1: but you guys ever had a bird? You ever owned
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: a bird? I had a bird stuck in my, I
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: had a woodpecker stuck in my house last year, and
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  Speaker 1: it took me about three hours to get it out.
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  Speaker 1: We saw the video of you chasing the woodpecker around
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  Speaker 1: the house. We saw that. That thing was vicious. Have
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  Speaker 1: you ever owned a bird?
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  Speaker 2: No. No.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'm currently... I'm not a pirate on the seven seas.
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  Speaker 1: I'm watching my nephew's bird while he's out of town.
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  Speaker 1: Freaking parakeet. Just the thought of that is hilarious.
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  Speaker 3: What do you mean you have to watch a bird?
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  Speaker 3: How do you watch a bird?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Make sure it has water and food
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  Speaker 1: and it just sits there.
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  Speaker 3: Why don't you just go to wherever that bird lives,
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  Speaker 3: go to your nephew's house and then throw food in
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  Speaker 3: there and water and leave.
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  Speaker 1: My sister-in-law has like eight birds. I can't even enter
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  Speaker 1: their house.
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  Speaker 3: It's just like birds.
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  Speaker 1: I'm in the Amazon.
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  Speaker 2: It's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Here's my real, oh, by the way, what does it
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  Speaker 1: take to be a big time, big 12 college football coach?
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  Speaker 3: You know what you should do with that bird?
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  Speaker 1: What's that? You should perch it. Our pet's heads are
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  Speaker 1: falling off what? What are you talking about? Perch it.
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  Speaker 3: Stick out your arm or something like that. Let it
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  Speaker 3: just kind of hang on you.
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  Speaker 1: It's terrified of me. It flies around the cage when
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  Speaker 1: I walk up to it. It hates my guts. So
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  Speaker 1: I don't bother the bird. The bird doesn't bother me. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: Robert Griffin III is very much interested in the Baylor
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  Speaker 1: football job, Vic. So? They just fired their coach. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just saying that he wants the job and he said
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  Speaker 1: he's talked to the AD about it. They're talking to
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  Speaker 1: the UTSA coach. Apparently they really like him. So that's,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, to step in without having coached and to
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  Speaker 1: be the head coach of a major college program would
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  Speaker 1: seem to be kind of difficult.
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  Speaker 3: I'll tell you, like a guy that, I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if he's flying under the radar anymore. How much New
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  Speaker 3: Mexico football do you guys watch?
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  Speaker 1: Not a lot, but I think they're winning, aren't they?
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  Speaker 3: Their head coach, Jason Eck, is a hell of a coach.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. He is a hell of a coach.
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  Speaker 5: Let me tell you, Fernando Lova, he hired him at
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  Speaker 5: New Mexico, and he's looking at what that guy's doing
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  Speaker 5: at New Mexico saying.
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  Speaker 1: Just saying. Just saying.
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  Speaker 3: So he was coaching at Idaho first. He went 7-5, 9-4,
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  Speaker 3: and then 10-4. Gets hired by New Mexico. Went 9-4
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  Speaker 3: last year. They're now 6-1 this season. Fun coach. Just
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  Speaker 3: something to keep an eye on is all I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I see what you're getting at now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like Sansa Stark. I'm a slow learner, but I
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  Speaker 1: do learn. Oh, by the way.
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  Speaker 3: The Super Bowl halftime show, they have left it up
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  Speaker 3: to Jay-Z to pick the artists every single year. So
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  Speaker 3: he is in charge of Apple Music or whatever, and
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  Speaker 3: so he picks the performers. And he spun around in
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  Speaker 3: his chair this year, and he goes, you know who
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  Speaker 3: should perform at halftime?
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  Speaker 1: Me! Hey, you know what would be great this halftime?
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  Speaker 1: I am. I think I should do that. It's hysterical.
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  Speaker 1: I got one for you.
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  Speaker 3: But hang on, hang on. We all know it's going
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  Speaker 3: to Come with this already.
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  Speaker 5: You're going to have a lot of different people, and
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  Speaker 5: it's not just going to be just him.
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  Speaker 3: I understand. But, Vic, this is going to be the
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  Speaker 3: same reaction you got when it was Snoop Dogg and
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  Speaker 3: Eminem and all those different guys.
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  Speaker 1: I love that one.
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  Speaker 3: I know you did. There's a lot of people that didn't.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I don't care. Vic, it really is like, though. Listen,
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  Speaker 1: music is always going to be subjective.
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  Speaker 5: No matter who you throw up there for the halftime show,
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  Speaker 5: half the country won't like it.
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  Speaker 1: The other half will. So what? What's the argument here?
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  Speaker 1: It really is like that coach of a football team going,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I should start a quarterback.
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  Speaker 5: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Me, me. Exactly. It's just, that's really what it's like
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  Speaker 1: because they've left him completely in charge.
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  Speaker 3: I've got to tell you guys something. I've been really
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  Speaker 3: thinking about this and I thought the best guy to
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  Speaker 3: perform this show would be myself out of everybody.
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  Speaker 1: In the world. You know who should hit cleanup? Me. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Um, I thought you said you had something.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, I've got one. Oh, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: and this is just an observation.
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  Speaker 5: The Brewers are going to win the World Series, and
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  Speaker 5: there is a piece of the Rockies that will taste
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: the World Series. Was it, this is your guy, or
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: maybe it's not. Antonio Sensatella getting a piece of that action.
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  Speaker 5: Seeing him in a Brewers uniform, knowing that he's going
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  Speaker 5: to be a world champion. What a change of venue
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  Speaker 5: for him this season, huh?
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  Speaker 1: Well, he deserved it.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he sends a thing straight. It's ran its
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  Speaker 3: course here. It's a great Rocky, but you had to
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  Speaker 3: sell on Senza. And look, he was a very good
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  Speaker 3: pitcher out of the bullpen. Like, I don't know what
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  Speaker 3: that was that sort of changed his game, but good
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  Speaker 3: for him. I'm happy for him.
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  Speaker 1: Here's one.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, what's Tom Brady's job?
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  Speaker 1: His job should be to announce football games.
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  Speaker 3: But he has another job. What's his other job?
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  Speaker 1: He works for the Raiders.
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  Speaker 3: He's a part owner. And the NFL is getting highly
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  Speaker 3: uncomfortable because he called the Lions and Packers game. We
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  Speaker 3: just went through the bad calls that went against the Packers.
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  Speaker 3: And Tom Brady was very vocal about how much he
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  Speaker 3: disagreed with the officiating in that game. There is a
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  Speaker 3: rule that owners cannot speak about officiating.
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  Speaker 2: Ooh.
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  Speaker 1: But he's an announcer.
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  Speaker 3: He's not towing that line. He is stepping far over
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  Speaker 3: that line.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's different, though.
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  Speaker 5: He's in the role of a broadcaster there. Now, if
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  Speaker 5: he had done that outside that role, different story. But
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  Speaker 5: once he's wearing the microphone and the blazer, all bets
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  Speaker 5: are off.
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  Speaker 3: That's not the way the NFL sees it. They said, quote,
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  Speaker 3: Brady is prohibited from being, and this is where it
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  Speaker 3: gets into sort of vague territory. egregiously critical of officiating
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  Speaker 3: or calling into question the integrity of an official or
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  Speaker 3: a crew.
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  Speaker 1: Well, then he should be prohibited from being a broadcaster.
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  Speaker 1: That's stupid. I mean, he's got to be able to
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  Speaker 1: speak his mind in the booth.
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  Speaker 3: Tom Brady said during that Lions and Packers game, my goodness,
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  Speaker 3: what was that? There is no way... It is absolutely
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  Speaker 3: not roughing the passer. Is that egregious criticism of the
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  Speaker 3: officiating group?
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  Speaker 1: No, but he's not wrong. I don't know what roughing
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  Speaker 1: the passer is anymore. That's what I'm saying. If he's
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  Speaker 1: not allowed to say that, then why waste your time?
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  Speaker 1: That's the worst call in the history of sports. Talk
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  Speaker 1: about soft.
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  Speaker 3: I don't disagree with you at all, but it does
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  Speaker 3: put you in a bit of a pickle when, wasn't
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  Speaker 3: it just a couple weeks ago, Vrabel, LeFleur, and another
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  Speaker 3: coach were all fined 250 Gs for what they said
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  Speaker 3: about officiating after their games?
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  Speaker 1: That is the worst call in the history of the league.
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  Speaker 1: That sounds like something. That I would say. Hey, oh,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, did you see what happened on Friday
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  Speaker 1: night over at the Avs game in the booth with
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  Speaker 1: myself and John Michael Lyles? Riker was between the benches.
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  Speaker 1: He did not partake. What happened in the booth? Let
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  Speaker 1: me think. Did, oh, did John Michael Lyles drink from
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  Speaker 1: your spit cup?
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  Speaker 3: Nope.
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  Speaker 1: We had a special guest in the booth who brought
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  Speaker 1: a special guest with him. I saw that. The two-time U.S.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Open champion paid a visit. Wyndham Clark. Do you recall
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: when Wyndham Clark was here in studio, Nelly?
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  Speaker 3: You're from here, but you live in Scottsdale, so you
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  Speaker 3: can hit the ball year-round. But I wondered, do professional
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: golf players have simulators? Ha ha ha!
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  Speaker 1: Did you remind him of that? Yes, of course. What
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  Speaker 1: did he say?
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  Speaker 3: No, he called me out.
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  Speaker 1: On the broadcast. I blasted Brett on the broadcast. What
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  Speaker 1: did you say? I saw him in the booth, but
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  Speaker 1: I was flipping. By the way, Wyndham remembers it like
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  Speaker 1: it was yesterday, too. He's like, oh, yeah. I'll never
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  Speaker 1: forget that. You're a golf player. That's embarrassing.
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  Speaker 5: That is so embarrassing for a sports host to refer
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  Speaker 5: to a two-time U.S.
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  Speaker 1: Open champion. Hi, are you a golf player? Vic, I've
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: never seen the U.S. Open trophy in person. It was
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  Speaker 1: really cool. It has all the names engraved on it.
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  Speaker 1: It really is a cool thing. You look at all
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  Speaker 1: the names over the years, and then it says 42, 43,
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  Speaker 1: and 44. No U.S. Open, World War II. It's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 1: Why was he there? At the Avs game. He's just
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: an Avs fan? Yeah, he's an Avs fan. He was invited,
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  Speaker 1: and he gets to about three or four games a year,
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  Speaker 1: he says. He lives in Scottsdale now, but when he
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: comes back, he tries to get to some games, and
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: he watches the Avs. So he said, when the Coyotes
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  Speaker 1: were there, I'd go to every Avs game that I
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  Speaker 1: could when they were in Arizona. And Johnny actually played
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  Speaker 1: around with him, right? Correct.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, if you could power through just the
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  Speaker 3: opening part of that interview. It was good because he
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: was revealed. He, at the very end, we went through
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: some rapid fire. I asked him a question, Vic. I said, um,
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: who is the Nicola Jokic of the PGA tour? He goes, Oh, uh,
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  Speaker 3: what'd he say? Was it Brian Harmon was what he
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  Speaker 3: came up with.
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  Speaker 1: Something like that. Yeah. Why would it be Brian Harmon?
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  Speaker 3: Just cause it's awkward.
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  Speaker 1: Weird. Where was I for that show? Why wasn't I
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  Speaker 1: on that show in Minnesota?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. Um, Oh, by the way, can you
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: pull up this video behind me? A play from the
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: Broncos game over the weekend, highlighted by Nate Kreckman. And
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: I have had my issues with one Adam Troutman in
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: the contract that he signed. But if you want to
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: see what Adam Troutman did on this Bo Nix touchdown run.
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  Speaker 1: The block in the outfield, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: No, not a block. So Bo Nix is taking off.
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  Speaker 3: Troutman's in coverage. His guy is the closest one to Bo.
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  Speaker 3: And if he realizes, this defender, that Bo Nix is
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  Speaker 3: going to take off and run.
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  Speaker 3: Then he's going to be able to catch him. But
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: watch what Troutman does. He's in his route. He sees
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  Speaker 3: that Bo takes off and runs. So instead of blocking,
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: what he does is he fakes like he's cutting up
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  Speaker 3: for another route to keep the cornerback sticky on him,
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  Speaker 3: which opened up That entire lane for Bo Nix to
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  Speaker 3: score a touchdown.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, so a little bit of acting. Yeah, nicely done.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: You know when a guy's on third base in the
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: MLB and there's sort of a blue pit in between
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: the center fielder and an infielder, and he'll fake like
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: he's going to catch the ball just to keep the
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: guys back on the bag and then drops in front
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: of him? Same concept. I'm just going to fool him
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: by putting my hands up like I'm going to catch
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  Speaker 3: a pass to give him more time to run.
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  Speaker 5: It's funny how when you watch a football game, it's
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: a series of guys trying to fool one another.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: For the final result.
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: Like even when a pass is thrown to a receiver,
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: a receiver never wants to throw his hands up early, right?
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Wait to the last possible second. Cause you don't want
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: to alert the DB that the ball's coming.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: But it's funny. Watch that, that given take there.
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  Speaker 3: Smart play by dropping move.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Smart play. Oh, by the way is brought to you
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  Speaker 1: Get it tuned and tightened and whatever.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: A few months ago, I had a broken spring, and
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  Speaker 3: this guy had to go. And I don't know what
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  Speaker 3: kind of spring that I have. I guess it's like
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  Speaker 3: an older one that's more dangerous or something. I don't
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• 42:52
  Speaker 3: Gilmore moment. He's like, you got to be really careful
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• 42:57
  Speaker 3: if not, this happens. And he takes it off, and
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: it's just a nub for a thumb. And I go, oh,
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  Speaker 3: my God. It was.
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  Speaker 3: Alligator, bit my hand off. So anyway, be careful with
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