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Speaker 1: Late welcome the Late to play well.
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Speaker 2: Good evening.
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Speaker 3: I'm James Macpherson with Liz Storer and Caleb Bond. Coming
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Speaker 3: up tonight, Jaguar unveil their latest car design. I'm not
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Speaker 3: sure many people are going to like it, but I'll
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Speaker 3: tell you who's going to love the latest Jaguar BMW,
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Speaker 3: Audi Mercedes. They are absolutely going to love because that
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Speaker 3: guarantees them more sales.
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Speaker 2: I think.
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Speaker 3: Plus, when we look at the papers, banks starting to
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Speaker 3: introduce forty year mortgages and unions threaten.
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Speaker 2: More trouble for Woolworth's in the lead up to Christmas.
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Speaker 3: All of that coming up shortly, But first of you
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Speaker 3: noticed that when it comes to gay pride celebrations in sport,
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Speaker 3: there's a massive double standard. When Muslim athletes choose not
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Speaker 3: to participate, there's barely a word. In fact, there's often
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Speaker 3: respect for their principles, but when Christian athletes boycott such
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Speaker 3: sporting events, they are instantly Malaya. Back in twenty twenty two,
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Speaker 3: you might remember seven Manly Siege or Rugby league players
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Speaker 3: chose to sit out a game of football rather than
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Speaker 3: war a gay pride jersey, and for that they were
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Speaker 3: called bigots. They even received death threats. The irony was
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Speaker 3: just a couple of months later, an afl W player
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Speaker 3: for GWS Giants also chose to sit out a pride
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Speaker 3: game because of her Muslim beliefs. Well, the ABC described
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Speaker 3: her as an up and coming leader in the Muslim
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Speaker 3: community who'd been caught in a difficult situation. Well, this
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Speaker 3: played out all over again in the English Premier League
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Speaker 3: over the weekend, where they celebrated their LGBTQ Pride Round. Now,
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Speaker 3: as part of this celebration, captains of each team were
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Speaker 3: required to wear a gay arm band, and this of
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Speaker 3: course created problems for religious players. Now, the captain of
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Speaker 3: Ipswich is a Muslim born in Egypt, Sam Morsey. He
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Speaker 3: chose just not to wear the gay arm band at all,
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Speaker 3: and nere a word was said as opposed to the
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Speaker 3: captain of Crystal Palace, Mark Gayhu, who was born in
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Speaker 3: the Ivory Coast. He's a committed Christian. His father is
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Speaker 3: a Christian minister. He decided I'm going to wear the
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Speaker 3: gay arm band because I bear no ill will towards
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Speaker 3: the LGBTQ community.
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Speaker 2: But I do have a higher allegiance.
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Speaker 3: I don't share their worldview and so he wrote on
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Speaker 3: the armband Jesus loves you. Now, I reckon that's a
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Speaker 3: pretty good statement for inclusion. What could be more inclusive
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Speaker 3: than Jesus loves everybody?
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Speaker 1: Who could be.
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Speaker 3: Offended by that? Well, as you can imagine, all hell
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Speaker 3: broke loose. He was threatened with sanctions, There were suggestions
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Speaker 3: he could lose his place on the English team, and
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Speaker 3: that's before we talk about his lucrative contracts and sponsorships. Now,
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Speaker 3: the Football Association argued that they don't allow political or
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Speaker 3: religious statements to be made on the pitch, which he's
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Speaker 3: the question, what is LGBTQ pride other than a political
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Speaker 3: and religious statement. It's political because it demands not just acceptance,
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Speaker 3: It demands celebration and adherence to a number of social policies.
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Speaker 3: It demands that you support gay marriage. It demands that
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Speaker 3: you support drag queens performing for children. It demands that
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Speaker 3: you support miners being given puberty blockers to change sex.
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Speaker 3: All of those are policy positions. It's political and it's
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Speaker 3: also religious because the LGBTQ Pride movement is a worldview.
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Speaker 2: It presents a view on life, on reality.
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Speaker 3: You know, you can change gender, on morality, there should
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Speaker 3: be no sexual boundaries, and like any religion, it brooks
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Speaker 3: no compromise and will have no gods before it.
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Speaker 2: And that's why no.
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Speaker 3: Sporting organization, no corporation, no school, no government should compel
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Speaker 3: people to take part in gay pride events. And to
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Speaker 3: do so while claiming that you don't allow political and
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Speaker 3: religious statements to be made indicates that the Football Association
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Speaker 3: in the UK and others like it are either intellectual
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Speaker 3: doults or catered. They're just playing cowards who are sucking
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Speaker 3: up to organizations they believe have power, which right now
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Speaker 3: is the LGBTQ movement.
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Speaker 1: Or it could be both, and I suspect it is both.
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Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, as you laid out at the beginning,
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Speaker 1: the examples from Australia are pretty clear in what happens
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Speaker 1: when a Muslim says that they're not part of Pride
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Speaker 1: round and when a Christian says they're not part of
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Speaker 1: Pride round. And it is exactly the same here. Like
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Speaker 1: you said, Sam Morsey, who's that the captain of Ipswich
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Speaker 1: just didn't wear the band at all, and for that
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Speaker 1: he incurs no reprimand whatsoever because he has not in
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Speaker 1: doing so apparently broken any of the uniform rules. But
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Speaker 1: by simply writing Jesus loves you, which you know, yes,
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Speaker 1: it is a religious message, which is against the rule,
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Speaker 1: but who cares. It's like, it's not an offensive message
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Speaker 1: in any way. He's still wearing the armband, so he's
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Speaker 1: sending the message that the league has asked him to send.
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Speaker 1: And at the same time you could argue that he
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Speaker 1: is also saying that, you know, I, as a Christian,
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Speaker 1: have no issue with you, and my God has no
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Speaker 1: issue with you. God loves all his children. I mean,
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Speaker 1: that is presumably what he's tried to say by writing
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Speaker 1: that on his armband. I mean, is that not putting
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Speaker 1: out the olive branch from the Christians to the LGBTQ
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Speaker 1: community to say, look, we're all humans at the end
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Speaker 1: of the day. But no, you get in trouble for that.
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Speaker 1: It's just more proof that politics should not go anywhere
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Speaker 1: near sport. I mean ninety nine percent of people. I'm
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Speaker 1: sure there is a one percent out there, but ninety
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Speaker 1: five percent of people who watch sport do so because
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Speaker 1: it is different to the rest of their lives. It's
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Speaker 1: removed from politics, it's removed from your job. It's removed
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Speaker 1: from all the other nonsense you have to put up with.
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Speaker 1: I mean, tomorrow morning, I'm on a plane to Adelaide
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Speaker 1: to go and watch the Adelaide Test. It is one
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Speaker 1: of my favorite times of the year. You know why
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Speaker 1: because for five days, or hopefully five days, I can
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Speaker 1: go and watch men throw leather at a piece of
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Speaker 1: willow and I don't have to think about anything else.
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Speaker 1: I can drink lots of beers, I can catch up
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Speaker 1: with my mates, I can talk about the cricket. I
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Speaker 1: don't have to get caught up in the rest of
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Speaker 1: the world. That is what sport is meant to be.
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Speaker 1: But increasingly it gets infected by politics. Not because the
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Speaker 1: people who watch sport wanted, and not because the people
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Speaker 1: who participate in sport wanted, but because the corporate jokers
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Speaker 1: who are in charge of the place think they can
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Speaker 1: make a buck out of it, because because then they
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Speaker 1: sell all the jerseys that have got the Pride flag
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Speaker 1: on them, et cetera. C I mean, it is the
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Speaker 1: worst kind of corporate virtue signalink that there possibly is.
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Speaker 4: There's no way they make that much money off a
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Speaker 4: gay Pride jersey, though, And let's keep in mind, this
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Speaker 4: isn't even gay Pride months that was due, So why
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Speaker 4: are you foisting this on the unsuspected? But jillions of
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Speaker 4: people either attending the game, watching the game, or participating
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Speaker 4: in the game.
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Speaker 5: Once again, the militancy of this movement is just your dropping.
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Speaker 4: Can we not go about our daily lives without being
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Speaker 4: reminded by a flag flying or aware at Purple Day
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Speaker 4: that this is what you're supposed to be supporting. And
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Speaker 4: of course it does single out people of the Christian faith,
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Speaker 4: never the Muslims weirdly, which is strange because if you
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Speaker 4: read the Quran and you read the Bible, one stands
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Speaker 4: out as particularly against the LGBTQ community and it ain't Christianity.
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Speaker 4: But this is now Taylor's oldest time. Remember back in
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Speaker 4: the days when it was like bake my cake for
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Speaker 4: a gay wedding, otherwise I'm suing you and sued those
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Speaker 4: Christian bakers were. Now it's where at purple otherwise you're
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Speaker 4: a bigot and everyone will know that these are for
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Speaker 4: school as children.
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Speaker 5: That's how young they've got to do this.
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Speaker 4: Now, then we've got Christian schools being told no, no,
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Speaker 4: you must employ people of the LGBTQ community. Even though
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Speaker 4: it goes against your ethos, we're forcing you to this
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Speaker 4: is a.
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Speaker 5: Matter of human rights. On and on and on it goes.
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Speaker 4: Christianity is constantly singled out.
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Speaker 5: And here's a perfect example.
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Speaker 4: Muslim player, everyone ticks, applauds, doesn't have.
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Speaker 5: A problem with it.
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Speaker 4: Christian player actually wears the armband but finds a way around.
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Speaker 5: It, and everyone's up in arms.
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Speaker 4: You've got to wonder what is really behind this agenda,
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Speaker 4: because it's not protections.
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Speaker 5: This isn't the nineteen sixties.
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Speaker 4: We're not championing a downtrodden minority anymore.
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Speaker 5: These guys rule the roost and we all know it.
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Speaker 3: I've got to point out one more irony in this story,
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Speaker 3: and that of course, is that the player's father, who
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Speaker 3: immigrated to the UK from the Ivory Coast. He understands
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Speaker 3: England better than most Englishmen. He told the media. God
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Speaker 3: is everywhere in this country and I know things changed
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Speaker 3: because of different beliefs, but it's still a Christian country.
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Speaker 3: Now bear in mind, this is an immigrant to the
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Speaker 3: UK telling Englishmen about their own country. He says, if
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Speaker 3: you look at what the lgbt community, you're doing they're
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Speaker 3: trying to impose on others what they believe in. It's
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Speaker 3: belief against belief. But at the end of the day,
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Speaker 3: everyone has the right to an opinion. And Caleb, that's
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Speaker 3: the UK we used to know. The immigrant gets it,
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Speaker 3: just the Englishman don't.
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Speaker 1: It's quite often the case because generally you've gone to
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Speaker 1: another country because you've seen something better in it than
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Speaker 1: the one you've come from. But as to why Christians
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Speaker 1: are targeted, it's an obvious Well, obviously Christians are easy prey,
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Speaker 1: you might say, because they're a majority in a country
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Speaker 1: like the UK, so you know, we can just go
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Speaker 1: after them. Who cares about that? But of course, more broadly,
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Speaker 1: it's about the fact is a hatred of the West,
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Speaker 1: and that's why the Muslims get a free pass here
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Speaker 1: because ultimately the socialists that pushed the this kind of
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Speaker 1: thing don't really actually care about the things they say
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Speaker 1: they care about gay rights, etc. They just care about
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Speaker 1: pulling apart the supposedly colonial awful roots of these countries,
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Speaker 1: and they will do it by any means possible, even
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Speaker 1: if that means pandering to the groups that are against
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Speaker 1: the groups they say they are. Four But that is
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Speaker 1: life in twenty twenty four. Speaking of life in twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty four and sticking in the UK, the BBC has
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Speaker 1: come up with its list of top one hundred women
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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four. And what would a list of
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Speaker 1: top one hundred women in twenty twenty four be without
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Speaker 1: a biological man? Yes, you knew I was going to
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Speaker 1: say it, And here it is again. I know I
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Speaker 1: gave Freddie Murcury go last night, but I've got to
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Speaker 1: give him another go tonight. Here is.
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Speaker 6: I'm girling slightly, man, and going slightly, I mean one.
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Speaker 1: Bridget Baptiste is the individual in question, Colombian scientist. Man.
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Speaker 1: Of course you can see Baptiste there, but makes it
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Speaker 1: onto the list of one hundred women. Now, through the
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Speaker 1: work that Baptiste has done as a scientist, it's apparently
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Speaker 1: been looking into things like how the rest of the
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Speaker 1: world is transgender like Baptiste. Take for instance that in
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Speaker 1: a twenty eighteen Ted talk, was Baptiste that Iss, according
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Speaker 1: to The Telegraph, claimed scientists had discovered transsexual palm trees
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Speaker 1: and stated that the change of sex and gender has
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Speaker 1: been reported regularly in science on this basis. She that is,
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Speaker 1: according to the Telegraph argued that it was wise to
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Speaker 1: do away with the ideas of naturalness in nature, stating
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Speaker 1: there is nothing more queer than nature and for that
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Speaker 1: extraordinary work, biological male can now make it onto the
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Speaker 1: list of top one hundred women. Now I know I've
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Speaker 1: said this before, but I have spent most of my
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Speaker 1: life saying that I am not a feminist, and I
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Speaker 1: bhore the idea of feminism because you know, it's an
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Speaker 1: outdated ideology that harks back to years and years ago, when,
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Speaker 1: of course there were legitimate grievances with the fact that
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Speaker 1: women had less rights than men, and then we sorted
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Speaker 1: all of that out in the latter twentieth century and
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Speaker 1: we got to a point where we were all equal.
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Speaker 1: But now I'm actually thinking I got to start calling
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Speaker 1: myself feminist because we are regressing so far now, like
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Speaker 1: literal women are losing rights to men every day of
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Speaker 1: the week. Now everything old is new again.
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Speaker 2: When I saw that the BBC had produced this list.
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Speaker 3: Of one hundred inspiring women and it contained a man,
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Speaker 3: I actually.
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Speaker 2: Felt relief because it was only one man. I was
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Speaker 2: taking a lot more to be on their list.
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Speaker 4: But I mean, you've got to follow the sad day
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Speaker 4: we're congratulating them for that.
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Speaker 2: It's only one bloke.
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Speaker 3: You got to follow the logic though, I mean, he
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Speaker 3: says there's nothing more queer than nature. I would argue
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Speaker 3: the BBC are probably a bit more queer than that.
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Speaker 3: But the logic is, if nature is queer, then we
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Speaker 3: should be queer in solidarity with it. And this is
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Speaker 3: a direct result of the rejection of the Christian faith.
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Speaker 3: The Christian faith used to teach us. We all used
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Speaker 3: to believe it, even if we didn't go to church,
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Speaker 3: but we understood we're made in the image of God.
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Speaker 3: So if we want to know what we're like or
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Speaker 3: what we should be like, you look up. But then
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Speaker 3: we've removed God from the horizon. So where do we
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Speaker 3: look for cues on how to live our lives?
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Speaker 2: Will we look down?
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Speaker 3: So you literally get someone saying, hmm, what sort of
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Speaker 3: person should I be? Well, I wonder what the palm
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Speaker 3: trees are doing, and then follows that, and so this
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Speaker 3: is where we have a major problem. Of course, you know,
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Speaker 3: polar bears eat their young, but she's not suggesting we
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Speaker 3: follow that. Dogs sniff each other's butts, but no one's
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Speaker 3: saying that's how we ought to behave. So it's incredibly selective,
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Speaker 3: isn't it, finding, you know, palm trees that are transsexual
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Speaker 3: and say, we'll see, that's now.
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Speaker 2: How we should behave.
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Speaker 3: The other point I would make, Liz is the BBC
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Speaker 3: have got a man as well of their most inspiring women.
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Speaker 3: The BBC also boast continually about their brilliant fact checkers.
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Speaker 2: Where are their fact checkers?
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Speaker 4: Yes, do they know anything about chromosomes? It's supposed to
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Speaker 4: be the one hundred most inspiring women. Well I found
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Speaker 4: this very inspiring indeed, but not to do what they
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Speaker 4: think they're inspiring people to do.
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Speaker 5: Now to the USA, where the writer of.
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Speaker 4: That famous song YMCA, which has once again made headlines.
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Speaker 4: My goodness, it's pretty much the Trump song nowadays.
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Speaker 5: Backed up with a dance and everything.
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Speaker 4: Everyone's been doing it, from sports stars on.
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Speaker 5: The field to you name it.
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Speaker 4: This dance and song has once again gone viral. Well,
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Speaker 4: the co writer of the YMCA song, his name's Victor Willis,
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Speaker 4: he was one of the original Village people, has taken
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Speaker 4: to his social media say when people stop calling this
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Speaker 4: thing a gay anthem? It was never supposed to be
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Speaker 4: that And as of next year, my wife's going to
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Speaker 4: start suing people who say it is.
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Speaker 5: A gay anthem. Check out his post.
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Speaker 4: He says, to the extent that YMCA is considered a
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Speaker 4: gay anthem based on the fact that gays once to
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Speaker 4: use certain YMCA for illicit activity.
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Speaker 5: The assumption that.
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Speaker 4: The song alludes to that is completely misguided. Therefore, since
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Speaker 4: I wrote the lyrics, I ought to know what the
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Speaker 4: lyrics I wrote is really about. Come January twenty twenty five,
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Speaker 4: my wife will start suing each and every news organization
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Speaker 4: that falsely refers to YMCA as being somehow a gay anthem,
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Speaker 4: because such a notion is based solely on the song's
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Speaker 4: lyrics alluding to illicit activity for which it does not. Now,
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Speaker 4: I just found this quite refreshing, because most people, whether
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Speaker 4: they're thinking this or not, whether one of their songs
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Speaker 4: has become a gay anthem or not, would not come
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Speaker 4: out nowadays and say, by the way, just to be clear, no, no,
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Speaker 4: They just be like, let him have it. I don't
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Speaker 4: want to be called a bigot, I don't want to
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Speaker 4: be sued, I don't want.
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Speaker 5: To be called hateful. But this guy is not only
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Speaker 5: coming out and being like a hold the phone everybody.
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Speaker 5: This was never intended to be that.
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Speaker 4: He's saying, my wife's gonna suit you, guys if you
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Speaker 4: keep referring to it as such. Although having watched the
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Speaker 4: original clip today, I gotta say you do start to
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Speaker 4: begin to understand why people might have got that idea.
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Speaker 1: Does not need to feel down down, it's just so.
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Speaker 4: And yet he said calling it a gay anthem is
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Speaker 4: quote defamatory.
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Speaker 5: And damaging to the song. End quote.
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Speaker 4: Well he's still very happy, man, because as we know,
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Speaker 4: Trump has made his song very famous of late, and
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Speaker 4: well he's collecting the royalties. It's like the masculine version
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Speaker 4: of YMCA love It, Love It so top Dog doing
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Speaker 4: his own verse.
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Speaker 1: It's all quite interesting because he also says that he
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Speaker 1: recognizes that the gay community uses it as an anthem,
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Speaker 1: and he doesn't have a problem with them doing so.
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Speaker 1: He just doesn't want it sort of officially known as
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Speaker 1: that's what it was written for, because.
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Speaker 2: Everyone thought the lyrics were describing.
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Speaker 1: Yeah used as a gay exactly. And of course members
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Speaker 1: of ymc A were gay, not all of them. Victor
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Speaker 1: is not gay, but some members of ymc A were gay.
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Speaker 1: And in the early days of Sorry Village, people is
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Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. And in the early days of
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Speaker 1: the Village people, you know, before it went mainstream, it
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Speaker 1: was fundamentally followed by gay people, but at one point
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Speaker 1: it cracked through with songs like YMCA and became a
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Speaker 1: lot more broad than that. So you can understand why
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Speaker 1: people would have thought that YAMCA was gay anthem. But
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Speaker 1: he also originally said that he didn't want Trump using
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Speaker 1: it during his campaigns, but he's then changed his mind
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Speaker 1: on that, presumably because he's seen the manager.
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Speaker 3: Of forty years after he wrote this song, it's now
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Speaker 3: back number one, and it was number one for two weeks,
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Speaker 3: so forty years after he wrote it, he's making absolute
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Speaker 3: mots all over again. But I mean, you look at
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Speaker 3: the bands and the performers who have said to Trump,
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Speaker 3: you must not use our music, oh even if you
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Speaker 3: pay for it, trummy.
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Speaker 5: He's got a very small playlist to make you.
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Speaker 3: If we were to go through them in alphabetical order,
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Speaker 3: and I won't go through them all, but let me
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Speaker 3: start with a These are people who said Trump, you
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Speaker 3: cannot use our music. Abba Adele Aerosmith, Aha, Andrew Lloyd Webber, Beyondcey,
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Speaker 3: Bruce Springsteen soon Credence clear Water Revival.
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Speaker 2: Let's just see.
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Speaker 3: I could keep going for another three or four minutes.
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Speaker 3: This guy has said, no, I like Trump using it,
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Speaker 3: and may I mean will.
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Speaker 1: May I point out though, one of your favorite musicians
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Speaker 1: and possibly one of the most famous gay men in
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Speaker 1: the world, Elton John, has no track with Trump using
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Speaker 1: his music. Trump uses Elton John all the time. He
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Speaker 1: loves Elton John, right, So, I mean the whole thing
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Speaker 1: is absurd in so far is because when you started
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Speaker 1: using YMCA, a lot of people were asking that question, like,
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Speaker 1: why is he using this song that is a gay anthem?
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Speaker 1: I can't believe he's doing that. When are we going
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Speaker 1: to hear from the village people about him doing so?
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Speaker 1: Will the village me for at least the writer of
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Speaker 1: the song is spoken now and said it's not a
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Speaker 1: gay anthem, and I don't have a problem with Trump
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Speaker 1: using it. But it just it proves to me again.
19:49
Speaker 1: You remember in school, you know, and you know, Year
19:51
Speaker 1: twelve English or whatever, and they give you a book
19:54
Speaker 1: or a poem or something, and you had to analyze
19:57
Speaker 1: it within a each of its life about what it's
20:00
Speaker 1: meaning was. And quite often I'd read these ticks and go,
20:03
Speaker 1: who am I to know what? Like, I'm just saying
20:06
Speaker 1: this is what I think it's about. The author when
20:08
Speaker 1: they wrote it probably had a completely different idea of
20:12
Speaker 1: what they thought it was about. And this proves that
20:14
Speaker 1: I think. I mean, the only person who can truly
20:16
Speaker 1: tell you what a piece of art is meant to
20:19
Speaker 1: mean is the artist himself. Sure, we look at pieces
20:23
Speaker 1: of art and decide what we think it means to us,
20:25
Speaker 1: but that's not ultimately the true meaning of the art.
20:29
Speaker 1: He is an artist taking back the meaning of his
20:32
Speaker 1: piece of art, and good on him. I wish we
20:34
Speaker 1: saw it more often before we start turning everything into
20:37
Speaker 1: meaning something else that it doesn't.
20:38
Speaker 2: I tell you what before we move on. You may
20:40
Speaker 2: be kind of sad mentioning Elton John. Have you heard
20:42
Speaker 2: the latest news on it?
20:42
Speaker 1: I know he's lost his eyes, but apparently it'll come
20:46
Speaker 1: back at a later stage.
20:47
Speaker 3: I mean, you can't beat Elton John music, and I
20:51
Speaker 3: reckon the reason Trump's using YMCA is because pretty much
20:53
Speaker 3: no one else other than Elton John would let.
20:54
Speaker 1: Him use it.
20:56
Speaker 4: I say, it doesn't mean that he can't play Hello,
20:59
Speaker 4: We've got It's.
21:00
Speaker 1: A good paint, A good point.
21:02
Speaker 3: Yeah, is a very good if anyone can Elton John
21:05
Speaker 3: will be able to do it. Let's stay overseas, but
21:06
Speaker 3: go to Canada. And still dealing with Trump, Trump of course,
21:09
Speaker 3: has announced that once he gets into the White House,
21:13
Speaker 3: he will put tariffs on nations that are misbehaving towards
21:17
Speaker 3: the US, including Canada to the north. He said he'll
21:20
Speaker 3: hit them with a twenty five percent tariff if they
21:23
Speaker 3: don't immediately stop the flow of illegals and drugs into
21:27
Speaker 3: America across that northern border. Now, Canada enjoys a one
21:31
Speaker 3: hundred billion dollar trade surplus with the US, so to
21:34
Speaker 3: be hit with a twenty five percent tariff, well that
21:37
Speaker 3: would hurt Canada. Justin Trudeau does not want that, so
21:40
Speaker 3: he got on a plane and flew straight to the
21:43
Speaker 3: US to have dinner with Trump. And well, I'll let
21:46
Speaker 3: Fox News's Peter Doocey take up the story, and.
21:51
Speaker 7: Tonight we're getting some new details about that Trump Trudeau
21:54
Speaker 7: dinner from two people who were at the table. We
21:57
Speaker 7: are told that whan Trudeau told President like Trump that
22:01
Speaker 7: new tariffs would kill the Canadian economy, Trump jogged to
22:05
Speaker 7: him that if Canada can't survive without ripping off the
22:08
Speaker 7: US to the tune of one hundred billion dollars a year.
22:11
Speaker 7: Then maybe Canada should become the fifty first state and
22:15
Speaker 7: Trudeau could become its governor.
22:19
Speaker 3: Well, it's great to finally have an alpha male back
22:22
Speaker 3: in the White House. Of course, Donald Trump was joking
22:25
Speaker 3: about Canada becoming the fifty first state of America, but
22:30
Speaker 3: he left Justin Trudeau in no doubt about his intentions
22:34
Speaker 3: and his seriousness. Like I said, it's just great to
22:37
Speaker 3: have an alpha male back in the White House.
22:39
Speaker 2: Here's a picture of their meeting.
22:42
Speaker 3: Actually, no, sorry, that's that's not the picture of their meeting,
22:46
Speaker 3: although that does look like Justin Trudeau.
22:48
Speaker 2: There's the site.
22:51
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what though, The idea is that Canada
22:54
Speaker 3: could become the fifty first state of America. Could you
22:56
Speaker 3: imagine the panic of all those celebrities who said, if
23:00
Speaker 3: Trump wins, We're moving to Canada. There's no getting away
23:03
Speaker 3: from the now to US just subsumes Canada.
23:07
Speaker 4: There's a way around that, you're back in the United States.
23:11
Speaker 1: Lol.
23:11
Speaker 4: Of course Justin Trudeau shared that photo, not the first one,
23:16
Speaker 4: the second, to his Twitter, tweeting thanks for dinner last night.
23:19
Speaker 4: President Trump I look forward to the work we can
23:22
Speaker 4: do together again, to which everyone writing on his Twitter
23:27
Speaker 4: post was like.
23:28
Speaker 5: What are you doing sitting with Hitler?
23:30
Speaker 1: Mate?
23:31
Speaker 5: How does it feel to be working with the radical
23:34
Speaker 5: right wing again?
23:35
Speaker 4: Why are you smiling with Hitler, this man that you
23:39
Speaker 4: have defamed for years and years. Well, suddenly he says
23:44
Speaker 4: something about tariffs. You're there at marr Lago playing happy
23:48
Speaker 4: families flew in to kiss the ring and polish Trump's shoes,
23:53
Speaker 4: didn't y.
23:54
Speaker 5: Everyone is absolutely relishing.
23:56
Speaker 4: This because and Trump said the same to Mexican as
24:00
Speaker 4: we know, which got him a phone call very quickly
24:04
Speaker 4: of Mexico being like, we're coming to the.
24:06
Speaker 5: Party, what do you need?
24:08
Speaker 4: So it is it is wonderful to see strong leadership.
24:12
Speaker 5: And I said this during the first Trump term.
24:15
Speaker 4: It tends to have a little bit like boys playing
24:18
Speaker 4: in the playground when Trump is in the White House,
24:22
Speaker 4: it tends to have a flow on effect where world
24:25
Speaker 4: leaders walk a bit taller, puff their chests out a
24:29
Speaker 4: bit more, get more of that testosterone masculine energy happening
24:34
Speaker 4: in their own leadership profiles.
24:36
Speaker 5: Don't hold your breath for.
24:37
Speaker 4: Alban easy, because the leader of the free world, the
24:41
Speaker 4: commander in chief is not just an alpha male, but
24:45
Speaker 4: an alpha male on steroids, and they all have this
24:49
Speaker 4: way of responding to that in kind.
24:52
Speaker 1: And it's interesting as well because of course, it's the
24:54
Speaker 1: unpredictability of Trump that makes him such a great diplomat,
24:59
Speaker 1: because you don't really know what he's going to do
25:02
Speaker 1: at any given time, so it encourages encourages you sorry
25:06
Speaker 1: to negotiate with him before he's made up his mind.
25:09
Speaker 1: I mean, Vladimir Zelenski was on the phone to Trump
25:13
Speaker 1: before the election had even happened, because he'd sniffed the
25:16
Speaker 1: wind and worked out that he was likely to be
25:18
Speaker 1: the president, because Trump has said that one of the
25:20
Speaker 1: first things he will do and just read, but you know,
25:23
Speaker 1: one of the first things he will do is end
25:26
Speaker 1: the war between Russia and Ukraine. So Zelenski is straight
25:28
Speaker 1: on the phone to start doing the negotiating because Trump,
25:32
Speaker 1: if you leave him to his own devices, they will
25:34
Speaker 1: do something that you don't want him to do. So
25:37
Speaker 1: incomes Trudeau gets ahead of the game. Let's talk to
25:40
Speaker 1: him before things get too far down the line. It's
25:44
Speaker 1: actually a great form of diplomacy by saying, look, if
25:47
Speaker 1: you don't come to me, then I can't guarantee what
25:50
Speaker 1: I'm going to do to you later.
25:52
Speaker 4: And it's extraordinary because Trump is basically acting president already,
25:56
Speaker 4: I know, exactly getting on the phone, flocking to Mari Lago,
26:01
Speaker 4: let's have a.
26:02
Speaker 5: Sit down dinner.
26:03
Speaker 4: They are a desperate to plac hate the beast before
26:08
Speaker 4: he's actually in the White House. And it isn't just
26:10
Speaker 4: saying twenty five percent tariff on all the Canadian goods
26:14
Speaker 4: coming into our country until you stop the illegal drugs,
26:18
Speaker 4: the illegal aliens flowing over the northern border. They're trying
26:21
Speaker 4: to get ahead of the game. So he's basically already
26:25
Speaker 4: doing the job of president long before January twenty when
26:28
Speaker 4: he'll be in augur.
26:30
Speaker 1: We don't actually have a prison yet, but it was funny,
26:32
Speaker 1: one blow pointed out on ex if you have a
26:34
Speaker 1: funny twenty cent Dear Canada, if you want to join
26:36
Speaker 1: the United States, we have a few rules. The leaf
26:39
Speaker 1: flag must go far around, position must go up by
26:42
Speaker 1: five hundred percent per household. Justin Trudeau must be exiled
26:45
Speaker 1: to Cuba to be with his ancestry, which if you've
26:49
Speaker 1: ever looked at for del Castro, you might notice a
26:52
Speaker 1: little similarity in their faces and for you will be
26:55
Speaker 1: referred to as snow Mexicans. Sound like a deal, but
26:58
Speaker 1: it did bring to mind. You know, I've spent a
27:01
Speaker 1: lot of micury. You will know at home how much
27:03
Speaker 1: I hate councils, and I've spent most of my carey
27:06
Speaker 1: arguing for council amalgamations. And the argument that kept being
27:09
Speaker 1: put to me and is still put to me all
27:10
Speaker 1: the time. It's the problem with council amalgamations is you
27:13
Speaker 1: can have one council that's doing really well, and then
27:16
Speaker 1: you amalgamate it with a council that's not doing so well,
27:19
Speaker 1: and then suddenly the people from the really good council
27:21
Speaker 1: have to, you know, have their finances go downhill a bit,
27:24
Speaker 1: and the people from the council that wasn't doing well
27:26
Speaker 1: are really happy because their finances have suddenly shot through
27:29
Speaker 1: the roof.
27:30
Speaker 2: Would the US.
27:31
Speaker 1: Really want Canada to become another state because it's just
27:34
Speaker 1: a dead weight on the rest of the country.
27:37
Speaker 3: It will basically be importing hamas into America the way
27:40
Speaker 3: Canada is doing so. I think it would be great
27:42
Speaker 3: for Canada, not so great for the United States.
27:44
Speaker 5: Not so great.
27:46
Speaker 4: Something else that is very questionably is it really great
27:49
Speaker 4: for anyone? Is a new supplement that's being put into
27:53
Speaker 4: cow feed. It's called Beauvaya, and this is in order
27:57
Speaker 4: to save the planet.
27:59
Speaker 5: It is set to.
28:00
Speaker 4: Cut methane cows farting by up to fifty percent. But
28:06
Speaker 4: what exactly is this thing that we are putting in
28:10
Speaker 4: cow feed to stop them from farting to save the planet.
28:15
Speaker 4: It's creating a lot of concern by people throughout the
28:18
Speaker 4: Western world where this is being implemented. Now, the company's
28:23
Speaker 4: doing this and not breaking any laws. It has been
28:26
Speaker 4: approved by the relevant bodies in their country. But if
28:29
Speaker 4: you're anything like me, you don't really trust those relevant
28:33
Speaker 4: bodies very much. Maybe you do, and power to you,
28:37
Speaker 4: but I certainly do not. This beauvor has got some
28:41
Speaker 4: serious side effects, particularly one of the ingredients. Here's a lady,
28:47
Speaker 4: just an everyday person, who googled side effects of this
28:51
Speaker 4: particular ingredient, and I'll let her tell you what she
28:55
Speaker 4: found and what you will find if you google the same.
29:00
Speaker 8: All right, so let's take a look at some of
29:01
Speaker 8: the side effects of this Bovair skin and I irritant
29:05
Speaker 8: potentially harmful when inhaled this is the worst may damage
29:09
Speaker 8: male fertility and reproductive organs. So when you handle this
29:15
Speaker 8: chemical that they're going to feed to the cows, you
29:17
Speaker 8: must wear protective gear, dust mask, impervious gloves, wash your
29:21
Speaker 8: hands after handling, rinse your eyes. So how can they
29:25
Speaker 8: possibly call that safety?
29:27
Speaker 4: So if it's that toxic for the people handling it,
29:31
Speaker 4: what the heck is it doing to our cows? And
29:34
Speaker 4: is it going to affect meat, cheese, milk.
29:38
Speaker 5: One of the.
29:39
Speaker 4: Big supermarkets, all the Foods UK, put out a statement
29:44
Speaker 4: saying BOVA has been approved for use by both the
29:46
Speaker 4: European Food Safety Authority and the UK Food Standards Agency
29:51
Speaker 4: the FSA.
29:53
Speaker 5: Again, do you trust these people? I don't know, It's
29:57
Speaker 5: just me, but I personally don't.
29:59
Speaker 4: They are how PIFAs in all our franken food. They
30:03
Speaker 4: don't care about microplastics, They don't care about all the
30:06
Speaker 4: herbicides and pesticides that the cows are eating by virtue
30:10
Speaker 4: of eating grass anyway, like roundup and other things which
30:14
Speaker 4: we know aren't very good for us or the cows. Now,
30:19
Speaker 4: this idea of putting this supplement in cowfeed has been
30:24
Speaker 4: backed by none other than Bill Gates and the company
30:28
Speaker 4: who has produced beauva They are called DSM Fermink has
30:35
Speaker 4: received funding from Bill Gates, but not with regard to
30:39
Speaker 4: this particular Beauvea project, because he's got his own company
30:43
Speaker 4: called Ruminate, which is pushing out their own supplement that
30:47
Speaker 4: supposedly does exactly the same thing. But I want to
30:51
Speaker 4: give a shout out to those dairy farmers here in
30:53
Speaker 4: Australia who have gone on social media and done their
30:57
Speaker 4: dandas to reassure people we are.
31:00
Speaker 5: Not using this Bouveta nonsense.
31:03
Speaker 4: Norcoa Milk Milany dairies, Gippsland, Jersey and Bass River dairies
31:09
Speaker 4: here in Australia. They've said, we're not feeding our cows
31:12
Speaker 4: this crap, and we can assure you of that. It
31:17
Speaker 4: just goes to it bobbles the mind that we are
31:22
Speaker 4: so believing in this climate cult nonsense that we are
31:26
Speaker 4: now feeding cows something to stop their natural breakdown. We
31:31
Speaker 4: all know their rather complex creatures in terms of having
31:34
Speaker 4: three stomachs and doing what they do the cud they chew,
31:37
Speaker 4: the incredible benefits we get from them in terms of
31:41
Speaker 4: dairy meat etc. And here we are messing with the
31:45
Speaker 4: most natural bodily processes for these bovines.
31:50
Speaker 2: And you raised some great points.
31:51
Speaker 3: We don't trust governments, we don't trust government bureaucracies, we
31:55
Speaker 3: don't trust the climate science. We don't trust science. It's
32:00
Speaker 3: been so politicized. So I sympathize with your concern about this,
32:05
Speaker 3: and I'm sure there's many people who would say, there's
32:07
Speaker 3: no way I'm drinking that stuff, which then creates opportunity
32:10
Speaker 3: for milk companies such as you listed here in Australia,
32:13
Speaker 3: who are already advertising by our milk. We don't get
32:17
Speaker 3: it from cows that have been plied with this stuff.
32:20
Speaker 3: I heard of one milk company colored that's advertising how
32:23
Speaker 3: you get full cream milk. They're advertising full fat milk, which,
32:28
Speaker 3: by the sound.
32:29
Speaker 2: Of it, you might not go for it.
32:30
Speaker 3: But once you've heard, be like, hey, I want that.
32:33
Speaker 1: Well, it's funny you mentioned that. I'm sure of you
32:36
Speaker 1: the home will remember this ad pot of milk.
32:41
Speaker 2: Thanks.
32:41
Speaker 7: Well, I've had and I've had full cream, high calcium,
32:44
Speaker 7: high protein, sorry light skim a Mega three high calcium
32:48
Speaker 7: with vitamin D and folid or extra dollop.
32:54
Speaker 1: I just want milk to taste like real milk. I mean,
32:57
Speaker 1: maybe now they'll have to add full fat milk to
33:00
Speaker 1: to the list there. I mean, I shouldn't speak too
33:02
Speaker 1: much because I interfere with my own digestive system by
33:05
Speaker 1: taking proton pump inhibitors somac. You know, it's an antacid
33:10
Speaker 1: type thing. There's lots of most people I think are
33:13
Speaker 1: on them for the reason that.
33:15
Speaker 5: Is, whatever thing is taking.
33:17
Speaker 1: But I mean for who cares anyway. I mean, you know,
33:20
Speaker 1: cows fart and cows burp. It's actually the burps that
33:24
Speaker 1: most of the methane comes out of. I mean, cows
33:27
Speaker 1: have been walking around the Earth for how damn long
33:30
Speaker 1: burping and farting and carrying on, and suddenly it's a problem. Oh,
33:34
Speaker 1: we can't have them doing that anymore. Their natural tendencies.
33:37
Speaker 1: They're digestive systems working in the way that they have
33:41
Speaker 1: evolved to work, and suddenly that's bad because it's going
33:44
Speaker 1: to cook the planet or something.
33:46
Speaker 4: It's not going to save the cows anyway, because we
33:49
Speaker 4: know how dogged this agenda is at all euro omissions.
33:53
Speaker 4: So if it's only cutting them by fifty percent many
33:56
Speaker 4: articles say more like twenty seven percent, then it's never
34:00
Speaker 4: going to be good enough, is it? And we know
34:01
Speaker 4: the likes of Bill Gates says we just we need
34:05
Speaker 4: to get rid of beef all together.
34:07
Speaker 5: Here's a quote from him back in twenty twenty one.
34:09
Speaker 4: He said, I do think all rich countries should move
34:12
Speaker 4: to one hundred percent synthetic beef baff. You can get
34:17
Speaker 4: used to the taste difference, and the claim is they're
34:20
Speaker 4: going to make it taste even better over time. Eventually
34:24
Speaker 4: that green premium is modest enough that you can sort
34:27
Speaker 4: of change the behavior of people or use regulation to
34:31
Speaker 4: totally shift the demand. I just force people to eat
34:37
Speaker 4: fake meat. That was back in twenty twenty one, for
34:41
Speaker 4: crying out loud. These guys are very open about what
34:44
Speaker 4: their agenda is, and it's up to we the people,
34:47
Speaker 4: to push back on it and say we're not buying
34:49
Speaker 4: this rabbit.
34:50
Speaker 1: I mean, they are very clearly buttering us up here.
34:53
Speaker 1: And may I say there is a lot of steak.
34:55
Speaker 1: There is a lot at steak. Let's go to the
34:59
Speaker 1: United States. Now, hey, it's my last night on the
35:02
Speaker 1: late debate for the year. You've got to let me
35:04
Speaker 1: have a.
35:04
Speaker 2: Little you know, cut the doing will mate.
35:06
Speaker 3: The cream always rises to the not well done.
35:10
Speaker 1: Before we go to a break over in the United States,
35:13
Speaker 1: the House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic. I had
35:17
Speaker 1: to make sure I got that entirely correct because it
35:19
Speaker 1: is a bit of a mouthful. But they have handed
35:22
Speaker 1: down their report into what they think happened the origins
35:25
Speaker 1: of COVID and of course the response to COVID in
35:27
Speaker 1: the United States, which was much as the same as
35:30
Speaker 1: here in Australia, and woe and behold. After pouring over
35:33
Speaker 1: more than one million pages of documents relating to the
35:38
Speaker 1: origins of COVID, they have come to the conclusion that
35:41
Speaker 1: it came from a lab in Wuhan. Yes, can you
35:46
Speaker 1: believe it? Exactly what we've been saying for years, all
35:50
Speaker 1: the great work that Cherry Marson did find her book
35:53
Speaker 1: on the origins of COVID if you haven't read it.
35:56
Speaker 1: And we were dismissed as conspiracy theorists for saying this
35:59
Speaker 1: was created in a lab, Well, no, we have more
36:02
Speaker 1: proof now to say that we were right. The report
36:04
Speaker 1: also said that lockdowns did more harm than good, that
36:08
Speaker 1: masked mandates were ineffective, and that there was no evidence
36:12
Speaker 1: for social distancing revel Who would have thought all this
36:18
Speaker 1: stuff that we were talking about for years, and someone
36:21
Speaker 1: has gone through millions and millions of pages of documents.
36:25
Speaker 1: Interviewed Anthony Fauci, who of course said that he didn't
36:28
Speaker 1: know where the six foot social distancing rule came from.
36:32
Speaker 1: He didn't know. He hadn't looked into any data about
36:35
Speaker 1: how masked mandates had affected children, et cetera. All on
36:38
Speaker 1: the record, and they go, oh, hang on a minute,
36:40
Speaker 1: this stuff didn't work. We could have told you that
36:43
Speaker 1: years ago.
36:43
Speaker 4: How people can trust a word these government agencies across
36:48
Speaker 4: the board, how they can trust a word?
36:51
Speaker 1: They say?
36:52
Speaker 5: Ever again, is it beyond.
36:54
Speaker 3: Me when you say they read over a million pages?
36:56
Speaker 3: I mean I read Sharry Markson's book What Really Happened
36:59
Speaker 3: in Wumart. It's just a couple of hundred page a
37:01
Speaker 3: lot of time. When you go to a break. When
37:03
Speaker 3: we come back, we'll look at what's making news tomorrow.
37:05
Speaker 3: That's coming up in the second. Okay, let's take a
37:11
Speaker 3: look at what's making headlines tomorrow. Will start with Sydney's
37:14
Speaker 3: Daily Telegraph, which states the obvious hip pocket pain hits
37:17
Speaker 3: home under labor recession of the people. Reads the headline,
37:21
Speaker 3: and the article says Australians are thousands of dollars worse
37:25
Speaker 3: off under the Albanezy government, as experts say the country
37:28
Speaker 3: is now mired in a recession of the people. The
37:32
Speaker 3: latest National account data, which was out today in tomorrow's
37:36
Speaker 3: paper We'll say yesterday, revealed economic growth has slowed to
37:39
Speaker 3: its lowest annual rate in more than thirty years. That's
37:42
Speaker 3: outside of the pandemic, as government spending and high levels
37:46
Speaker 3: of migration mask the true damage to household budgets. The
37:51
Speaker 3: article goes on to say that government spending is now
37:54
Speaker 3: twenty eight percent of GDP. That's compared to an average
37:58
Speaker 3: of about twenty two percent in the ten years leading
38:01
Speaker 3: up to the pandemic. That's sort of spending is just
38:05
Speaker 3: absolutely unsustainable. But not only that, it risks keeping inflation
38:09
Speaker 3: high so interest rates stay high.
38:12
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter which way you look at this.
38:15
Speaker 3: Everybody is hurting and the government don't seem to know
38:18
Speaker 3: what to do other than just keep pumping money into
38:20
Speaker 3: the occas, even.
38:21
Speaker 5: Though they are the sole cause of the problem.
38:24
Speaker 4: As Milton Friedman famously said, inflation is created in Washington.
38:30
Speaker 4: It's completely done by government spending. And he also goes
38:36
Speaker 4: on to say that that's our fault because how many
38:39
Speaker 4: of us love a freebie from the government. So every
38:41
Speaker 4: time the government's coming up for reelection, what does it promise?
38:45
Speaker 5: More spending, more spending, more spending.
38:47
Speaker 4: You only have to take a look at a few
38:49
Speaker 4: of the things labors already saying that they're taking to
38:52
Speaker 4: the next election, like universal daycare, which is going to
38:56
Speaker 4: cost us billions of dollars. This is what they do.
39:01
Speaker 4: They come up with new ways of saying freebies for everyone,
39:04
Speaker 4: and then people vote for the.
39:06
Speaker 5: Freebies just once. Especially now, I'd love.
39:10
Speaker 4: To see a party with the Gonads to say, actually,
39:13
Speaker 4: we are running on a very fiscal agenda. We're actually
39:17
Speaker 4: going to be like, hey, Australia, want to tighten your
39:20
Speaker 4: belt so that your children's children's children aren't paying off
39:24
Speaker 4: this ridiculous debt. Because I think a lot of responsible
39:28
Speaker 4: Australians would say, yeah, actually, let's get it done instead
39:32
Speaker 4: of everyone being promised a pony and a pony for
39:36
Speaker 4: their pony, and everyone then voting for whichever party they
39:40
Speaker 4: think is going to give it them the most free bee.
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Speaker 3: I wish that were true, but Kembell Newman got into
39:44
Speaker 3: government and then did that in Queensland.
39:46
Speaker 1: Service in a landslide, in a landslide quick time. But
39:51
Speaker 1: you know, over the days of Paul Keating, who once
39:54
Speaker 1: upon a time said we were going to have the
39:55
Speaker 1: recession we had to have, he was at least upfront
39:59
Speaker 1: about that fact.
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Speaker 4: I think Camvil Newman, by the way, is a very
40:03
Speaker 4: unique situation. I mean, Queensland has been a labor state
40:07
Speaker 4: for a very long time. That was an exceptional election
40:10
Speaker 4: and I don't think anyone was surprised and that was
40:12
Speaker 4: not the number one that wasn't the reason why he
40:16
Speaker 4: was voted out.
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Speaker 1: But at least Keating was honest about the fact that
40:19
Speaker 1: he was about to lead the country into recession. What
40:22
Speaker 1: Albanezi and Charmers have done here is preside over the
40:27
Speaker 1: longest household recession in half a century. Your money is
40:31
Speaker 1: going backwards, the household GDP is going backwards, but covering
40:35
Speaker 1: up the official numbers at a national level by pumping
40:39
Speaker 1: up the migration and as Paul Murray was explaining at
40:42
Speaker 1: the top of his program, employing more and more public
40:45
Speaker 1: servants and giving them pay rises because that makes it
40:48
Speaker 1: look like there is marginal economic growth, which there actually isn't.
40:52
Speaker 1: I also want to just note, if we can get
40:54
Speaker 1: the front of the Daily Telegraph back up again, who's
40:58
Speaker 1: this bird in the top left of the paper? Who's
41:02
Speaker 1: giving me the finger? She's good looking last, but I'm
41:05
Speaker 1: not quite sure. It seems that she's a superstar on
41:09
Speaker 1: a Sydney set. I'm assuming for a film or something.
41:11
Speaker 1: But what's she doing giving me the finger on the
41:13
Speaker 1: front of the paper. I don't know what that's all about.
41:15
Speaker 4: Don't know, don't care to the front page of the
41:17
Speaker 4: herald Son mortgage stretcher. If this doesn't make your guts grown,
41:22
Speaker 4: I don't know what will. The forty year mortgage has
41:26
Speaker 4: arrived in a move other major lenders are expected to follow.
41:30
Speaker 4: Pepper Money is launching a mortgage next week that will
41:34
Speaker 4: run out to December twenty sixty five. Borrowers would pay
41:39
Speaker 4: less each month, but the loans are dearer in the
41:43
Speaker 4: long term.
41:44
Speaker 5: Yeah, go figure.
41:46
Speaker 4: I just I don't even want to think about this.
41:50
Speaker 4: I don't know if I even want to be alive
41:52
Speaker 4: in twenty sixty five to think about paying How quickly
41:59
Speaker 4: people used to be able to buy a house back
42:02
Speaker 4: in the day. Get it done in a couple of decades.
42:05
Speaker 4: If that we're now talking about forty year mortgages because
42:11
Speaker 4: they're so expensive you're gonna need forty years or maybe
42:15
Speaker 4: even more to pay off even a one better apartment.
42:18
Speaker 4: And if you're looking at Central suburbs in Sydney and that's.
42:22
Speaker 5: For a hole in the wall, that's nothing fancy?
42:24
Speaker 3: Is it in Japan where they have mortgages now that
42:26
Speaker 3: are generational so it gets handed on to your kids,
42:30
Speaker 3: which has a certain attraction.
42:32
Speaker 1: Actually come, well, I'm sure it does, but I mean,
42:35
Speaker 1: the greatest thing about debt has always been that it
42:38
Speaker 1: is extinguished upon death. The creditor can come and take
42:42
Speaker 1: assets to recover as much of their money as possible,
42:45
Speaker 1: but you can't actually pass debt on to children. Imagine
42:48
Speaker 1: if that were the case. You know, but you could
42:50
Speaker 1: go out and take it a massive mortgage. About five
42:53
Speaker 1: minutes before you carget, You're like, you know, before I die,
42:57
Speaker 1: I really want to have a ferrari in a match.
43:00
Speaker 1: And then your kids like, Dad, what did your donos?
43:03
Speaker 2: I've got two of them. I'll get two cars. It's interesting.
43:05
Speaker 3: Over the last couple years, four hundred and thirty thousand
43:07
Speaker 3: Australians have extended the life of their mortgages.
43:11
Speaker 2: So clearly, when.
43:12
Speaker 3: People are struggling with repayments, even though you're worse off
43:16
Speaker 3: in the long run, it's going to be attractive to me.
43:18
Speaker 1: And that's the thing, right, Like it's sad, but what
43:21
Speaker 1: else have people meant to do? If you want to
43:23
Speaker 1: buy in the market that currently exists, you haven't got
43:26
Speaker 1: a lot of room to move and you don't have
43:29
Speaker 1: much choice. So if this allows you to get into
43:31
Speaker 1: the market, you'd say, okay, that's great. But of course
43:34
Speaker 1: that also then has the effect of allowing more people
43:38
Speaker 1: into the housing market, which when you haven't already stretched
43:41
Speaker 1: housing market, means the prices go up even further. So
43:44
Speaker 1: you really can't win here, can you. But you said
43:47
Speaker 1: you don't want to be alive in twenty sixty five,
43:49
Speaker 1: which is a sad thought, Liz, But I can't remember
43:52
Speaker 1: who sang the song, But you know it goes in
43:54
Speaker 1: the year twenty five, twenty five, if man is still alive,
44:00
Speaker 1: if woman can survive, you may find and then it
44:03
Speaker 1: goes on all these futuristic things. Donnary, wasn't it, these
44:07
Speaker 1: futuristic things that were supposedly going to happen. I occasionally
44:11
Speaker 1: go back and listen to it, because it goes on
44:13
Speaker 1: about you know, twenty twenty and all this stuff, and
44:15
Speaker 1: it's like, wow, that's not actually what the world turned
44:17
Speaker 1: out like. It's a bit like watching back to the future.
44:19
Speaker 1: They went forward to it was it twenty sixteen or
44:21
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen they went to and they were all getting
44:24
Speaker 1: around on hover boards and stuff, and it's like, that
44:26
Speaker 1: didn't happen, did it. Let's go to the front of
44:29
Speaker 1: the ods tomorrow where it sees Pearson's explicit plea roll
44:32
Speaker 1: out direct instructions to all classrooms. This is going on
44:36
Speaker 1: from the story we were talking about last night. You
44:39
Speaker 1: saw napland results have come out today and Catholic schools
44:43
Speaker 1: in the act you have had great success going back
44:46
Speaker 1: to direct instruction. Aboriginal leader Noel Pearson has demanded that
44:49
Speaker 1: all schools adopt direct instruction in classrooms and blasted education
44:54
Speaker 1: leaders for ignoring the reform for twenty years. Mister Pearson
44:57
Speaker 1: said it was bittersweet to see Catholic schools in through
45:00
Speaker 1: reading in mathematics results through direct instruction method also known
45:03
Speaker 1: as explicit teaching, after he lobbied for two decades to
45:07
Speaker 1: have it mandated in public schools. And as we said
45:10
Speaker 1: last time, I mean, this stuff is as plain as
45:12
Speaker 1: the nose on your face. It's been in front of
45:14
Speaker 1: us for so long. In fact, it's how things used
45:17
Speaker 1: to be done, and then we decided, oh I've got
45:19
Speaker 1: new fangled ways to do it. They just don't work.
45:22
Speaker 1: When are we going to get back to basics?
45:23
Speaker 2: Yep, they should absolutely do it.
45:25
Speaker 3: And if you had parents kids in schools, you'd be
45:27
Speaker 3: demanding that your schools go back to this kind of
45:30
Speaker 3: teaching we're going to break when we come back. Will
45:33
Speaker 3: show you the new Jaguar that's caused so much controversy.
45:37
Speaker 3: You can check it out for yourself and see if
45:39
Speaker 3: you like it.
45:43
Speaker 2: All. Right after Jaguar.
45:44
Speaker 3: Announced a controversial rebranding, we've all been waiting to see, Caleb,
45:48
Speaker 3: what the new car is going to look like.
45:50
Speaker 1: Oh my, I really don't want to show it to
45:53
Speaker 1: you actually, but you'll remember that new ad they came
45:56
Speaker 1: up with and it had no car in it whatsoever,
45:58
Speaker 1: and it had people in weird dresses and haircuts and whatever.
46:02
Speaker 1: Look if they just you know, run this, things might
46:06
Speaker 1: look a little better, you know, an actual Jaguar to
46:20
Speaker 1: sort them out. But unfortunately they didn't do that. Now
46:22
Speaker 1: I've shown you this before. I love Jaguars. They're beautiful
46:26
Speaker 1: British cars. You know the mark to the X J six,
46:31
Speaker 1: the E type, you know, I mean, look at that.
46:34
Speaker 1: That is just a beautiful car. You look at that.
46:39
Speaker 1: It feels britty. I mean the E type that is
46:41
Speaker 1: sex on wheels. Well, have a look at what they've
46:44
Speaker 1: come up with now, So I am with the all
46:47
Speaker 1: you Jaguar Type zero zero, which is a design vision.
46:52
Speaker 5: Check it out and looks absolutely insane.
46:55
Speaker 4: When we look at the front.
46:56
Speaker 5: We can have.
46:59
Speaker 8: Three of where insane.
47:02
Speaker 1: Likes as you can see.
47:08
Speaker 7: The doors open.
47:10
Speaker 1: Solutely crazy. Check out that interior which is unbelievable.
47:17
Speaker 5: The screens go off as world that is insane.
47:23
Speaker 1: See the flintstones have finally arrived. I mean that thing
47:26
Speaker 1: looks like one of those suicide pods that they use
47:28
Speaker 1: over in the in the Netherlands for people to say
47:31
Speaker 1: goodbye to the world. Who wants that? That is not
47:35
Speaker 1: a Januar. I mean, when you saw the beautiful things
47:38
Speaker 1: they once made, and now they're making boxy crap like.
47:41
Speaker 2: That, I couldn't work out.
47:42
Speaker 3: Is that the new Jaguar or is it the Barbie movie,
47:45
Speaker 3: which one is it?
47:46
Speaker 2: And they talk about.
47:47
Speaker 5: When it comes in blue?
47:48
Speaker 3: Well they talked about creativity, right, because creative and it's original,
47:51
Speaker 3: and so they've come up with blue and pink like
47:54
Speaker 3: for boys and girls.
47:55
Speaker 5: I mean great binary. They even that, You would have
47:59
Speaker 5: thought they would have got slam for that.
48:00
Speaker 3: If you remember the Thunderbirds, which I'm not sure you
48:03
Speaker 3: would have ever watched the Thunderbirds, you probably would have.
48:05
Speaker 2: That pink Jaguar is straight out of the Thunderbirds. Go
48:09
Speaker 2: back and look, it's straight out of it.
48:11
Speaker 1: But that's the only sort of person who would buy
48:13
Speaker 1: a thing like that is someone who is a puppet,
48:16
Speaker 1: who's got the strings. I will do what I am
48:19
Speaker 1: told to do by my wo I'd love.
48:22
Speaker 4: To know how many they end up selling new Range
48:25
Speaker 4: going directing.
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Speaker 3: The executives at BMW or AUDI are really worried about
48:29
Speaker 3: the new Jaguar.
48:30
Speaker 2: I think not. I think not at all.
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Speaker 3: That's all we've got time for tonight, but stick around.
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Speaker 3: Coming up is the Reader Pennety Show.