Latest / Wrongful Conviction / #388 Wrongful Conviction: Junk Science - Bite Mark Evidence
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Hey, folks, Kate Judson here, I'm a lawyer and the
- 0:04Speaker 1: executive director of the Center for Integrity and Forensic Sciences.
- 0:09Speaker 1: We're back with an episode of Junk Science, a series
- 0:12Speaker 1: we first released in twenty twenty. Each episode highlights ways
- 0:16Speaker 1: that inaccurate or misinterpreted forensics can result in a wrongful conviction.
- 0:22Speaker 1: This week's episode focuses on bitemark evidence, a forensic specialty
- 0:26Speaker 1: that is thankfully falling out of favor as more and
- 0:29Speaker 1: more courts realize its shortcomings. But that doesn't mean that
- 0:32Speaker 1: it's totally gone or that the legal system doesn't still
- 0:36Speaker 1: feel its influence. To me and others familiar with bitemark evidence,
- 0:42Speaker 1: the name doctor Michael West will ring some bells. He's
- 0:45Speaker 1: an infamous bitemark analyst whose questionable assertions in court have
- 0:49Speaker 1: led to many wrongful convictions. He claimed that he could
- 0:52Speaker 1: find bitemarks and other marks on skin that no one
- 0:56Speaker 1: else could find using alternative light source photography, thing that
- 1:00Speaker 1: is unsupported by scientific evidence. This concept is another dimension
- 1:05Speaker 1: of what you'll hear discussed in this episode that increasingly
- 1:08Speaker 1: sophisticated methods of evidence collection don't do a thing to
- 1:13Speaker 1: ensure accurate interpretation. Only By revealing and changing the underlying
- 1:20Speaker 1: systemic problems, can we ensure reliability.
- 1:31Speaker 2: Imagine this. You're at your house. You're standing at the
- 1:36Speaker 2: stove making dinner. You hear a knock at the door.
- 1:40Speaker 2: It's the police. They ask you your name. They've been
- 1:44Speaker 2: looking for you. The first thing you think is, oh, no,
- 1:48Speaker 2: something must have happened to a friend or someone in
- 1:51Speaker 2: my family. An officer looks you in the eye. They
- 1:55Speaker 2: need to ask you some questions. What is it? What happened?
- 2:01Speaker 2: They won't tell you. You'll need to go down to
- 2:03Speaker 2: the police station. You agree to go with them, and
- 2:07Speaker 2: you ask them over and over what's the problem. You're
- 2:12Speaker 2: putting a small windowless room and you're very anxious, and
- 2:16Speaker 2: you're told you wait here. Two plain closed detectives eventually
- 2:21Speaker 2: come in. One sits across from you, or a rickety
- 2:24Speaker 2: table separates you from him. The other comes to your
- 2:27Speaker 2: side of the table and he sits so close to
- 2:30Speaker 2: you that his knee is touching yours. He quickly begins
- 2:34Speaker 2: accusing you of raping and murdering someone. He says a
- 2:39Speaker 2: name that you recognize. It's your ex who you haven't
- 2:43Speaker 2: been in contact with for years. The one sitting closest
- 2:47Speaker 2: to you, tells you the murder happened last night and
- 2:50Speaker 2: that the only way you can help yourself is to
- 2:52Speaker 2: just admit what you did. He asked you where you
- 2:55Speaker 2: were yesterday. At first, it's not easy to remember the
- 2:58Speaker 2: mundane details of the past day. You were just told
- 3:02Speaker 2: that your ex was murdered. But you take a deep
- 3:05Speaker 2: breath and you try to focus. You were at work
- 3:09Speaker 2: all day. On your way home, you went to the
- 3:11Speaker 2: grocery store. Then you stopped and had a bureau with
- 3:14Speaker 2: some friends at a local bar. Then you got gas
- 3:18Speaker 2: at the gas station. You ran into one of your neighbors.
- 3:21Speaker 2: You can remember sitting there across from those detectives at
- 3:25Speaker 2: least nine alibi witnesses. You tell this to the detectives,
- 3:30Speaker 2: and this gets them even more pissed. They say, look,
- 3:34Speaker 2: we don't believe you. We know you killed this woman.
- 3:38Speaker 2: They tell you that the victim has bite marks all
- 3:40Speaker 2: over her neck, on her shoulder, her inner thigh, and
- 3:44Speaker 2: her arm. They tell you that the killer left those
- 3:47Speaker 2: bite marks that they can determine who committed this crime
- 3:51Speaker 2: just by taking a dental impression of their teeth and
- 3:54Speaker 2: matching it to the bite marks on the victim. And
- 3:57Speaker 2: if you're so innocent, they say, if this is there's
- 4:00Speaker 2: some big mix up and you didn't really do this,
- 4:03Speaker 2: let us just take an impression of your teeth. Fine,
- 4:06Speaker 2: let's do it. After more forceful accusations, they let you
- 4:11Speaker 2: sit there, and sit there, and sit there. A few
- 4:16Speaker 2: hours later, they send a man into the room wearing
- 4:18Speaker 2: a white lab coat, and he certainly looks the part
- 4:21Speaker 2: of a dentist. He takes out two metal bite plates
- 4:25Speaker 2: and fills them with a silly putty like substance. He
- 4:29Speaker 2: pushes these cold trays into your mouth and tells you
- 4:33Speaker 2: to bite down. The putty tastes like plastic. It hugs
- 4:37Speaker 2: your teeth, then quickly firms up and drives. Then it's
- 4:41Speaker 2: pulled from your mouth and there is a perfect impression.
- 4:45Speaker 2: The cops come back in and they tell you can
- 4:47Speaker 2: leave the police station, but they also tell you you're not
- 4:51Speaker 2: to leave town. Three sleepless nights later, you're at your house,
- 4:56Speaker 2: laying awake in bed, and you're really overcome by anxiety.
- 5:00Speaker 2: You're wondering, do I need an attorney or does that
- 5:03Speaker 2: make it look like I may have actually done something wrong?
- 5:06Speaker 2: How do I act what am I supposed to do?
- 5:09Speaker 2: And then your dog starts barking. This time they don't knock.
- 5:16Speaker 2: Your front door is blown off its hinges by a
- 5:19Speaker 2: swat team, and before you know what's happening, you are
- 5:23Speaker 2: on the ground. You can clearly hear one of these
- 5:26Speaker 2: cops yell at you don't fucking move. Your face is
- 5:31Speaker 2: being pushed into the carpet. You're being handcuffed. You're told
- 5:35Speaker 2: you're being charged with the rape and murder of your
- 5:37Speaker 2: ex who you haven't seen or spoken to in years.
- 5:45Speaker 2: At your trial, the prosecution gets two experts in bite marks,
- 5:49Speaker 2: called odentologists, an impressive sounding title for a forensic dentist,
- 5:54Speaker 2: and they explain how the ridges, angles, peaks, and valleys
- 5:57Speaker 2: of your teeth, these unique characteristics, perfectly matched with the
- 6:02Speaker 2: bite marks on the victim. They say things to the
- 6:05Speaker 2: jury that sound really impressive. There's a one in a
- 6:09Speaker 2: million chances that these bite marks are anyone else's but
- 6:12Speaker 2: the defendants, they say, and we know that to a
- 6:15Speaker 2: degree of scientific certainty. The jury seems to be completely
- 6:22Speaker 2: buying this, and why not? It all sounds so rational,
- 6:27Speaker 2: so infallible. You're thinking, I'm really screwtier but you know
- 6:34Speaker 2: you're innocent. Countless innocent men and women have lived this
- 6:41Speaker 2: horrific nightmare. Their wrongful convictions are based on evidence presented
- 6:47Speaker 2: by odentologists, the quote unquote scientific experts and bite mark evidence.
- 6:56Speaker 2: I'm Josh Duben, civil rights and criminal defense attorney, an
- 7:00Speaker 2: innocent ambassador to the Innocence Project in New York. Today
- 7:04Speaker 2: on wrongful conviction junk science, We're going to explore bitemark evidence.
- 7:10Speaker 2: Like other forms of junk science used in criminal trials,
- 7:13Speaker 2: bitemark evidence does not benefit crime victims or their loved ones,
- 7:18Speaker 2: So why is it treated like credible science. It turns
- 7:21Speaker 2: out that the charade of bitemark evidence is actually older
- 7:25Speaker 2: than the United States. On April thirtieth, sixteen ninety two,
- 7:41Speaker 2: a reverend by the name of George Burrows was arrested
- 7:44Speaker 2: and accused of torturing young women into witchcraft. It was
- 7:48Speaker 2: alleged that it would inflict various forms of physical harm
- 7:51Speaker 2: on them, pinching, strangling, and yes, biting them. The evidence
- 7:56Speaker 2: against Burrows was really thin, but the only physical evidence
- 8:01Speaker 2: where the alleged bitemarks that the prosecution claimed his teeth
- 8:05Speaker 2: left on the flesh of his victims at his trial,
- 8:09Speaker 2: Reverend Burroughs was pulled by the face around the courtroom
- 8:12Speaker 2: and his mouth was pride open. A stick was used
- 8:15Speaker 2: to point out the unique characteristics of Burrow's teeth, the peaks,
- 8:20Speaker 2: the angles of his molars, and then they were compared
- 8:23Speaker 2: to what the court was told were bite marks on
- 8:25Speaker 2: the young girls. Burrows was convicted and publicly hanged. While
- 8:31Speaker 2: he stood on a ladder awaiting the tightening of a
- 8:33Speaker 2: noose around his neck, he prayed. He recited the Lord's Prayer,
- 8:37Speaker 2: and a collective gasp, like a creeping wave, rolled through
- 8:41Speaker 2: the crowd that had gathered to watch his hanging. Because
- 8:44Speaker 2: the Lord's Prayer was considered impossible for a witch, and
- 8:50Speaker 2: so bitemark evidence was born in the bloodthirsty hysteria of
- 8:55Speaker 2: the Salem witch trials, Burrow's recitation of the Lord's Prayer
- 9:01Speaker 2: should have been a sign that something was wrong with
- 9:03Speaker 2: his conviction, that he wasn't a witch after all, Because
- 9:07Speaker 2: it turns out the angry, frenzied mob that was so
- 9:11Speaker 2: quick to accuse, convict, and hang George Burrows had in
- 9:15Speaker 2: fact executed an innocent man. Twenty years after he was
- 9:20Speaker 2: put to death, George Burrows was declared innocent. He was
- 9:24Speaker 2: in another town altogether on the knights that the victims
- 9:27Speaker 2: were allegedly tortured. George Burrows hadn't beten anyone at all.
- 9:33Speaker 2: That entire show that was put on in that courtroom,
- 9:36Speaker 2: the circus of forcing his mouth open was nothing more
- 9:39Speaker 2: than performance masquerading as signs. And yet bite mark evidence
- 9:45Speaker 2: is still being used in courtrooms across the country to
- 9:49Speaker 2: convict innocent people of crimes they did not commit.
- 9:54Speaker 3: Every single case that my department has gotten involved in
- 9:58Speaker 3: has ended up in reversal of the conviction, or exclusion
- 10:00Speaker 3: of the evidence, or withdrawal of the evidence because it's
- 10:03Speaker 3: so grossly unreliable.
- 10:05Speaker 2: To tell us more about bitemark evidence, we have Chris
- 10:08Speaker 2: Fabricn from the Innocence Project here with us today. Throughout
- 10:12Speaker 2: his twenty year legal career, Chris has worked on countless
- 10:15Speaker 2: cases in which innocent men and women spent decades in
- 10:18Speaker 2: prison because of bitemark evidence.
- 10:20Speaker 3: We at the Innocence Project had an agenda about eliminating
- 10:25Speaker 3: the use of bitemark evidence in criminal trials.
- 10:28Speaker 2: Chris, there's a case from the nineteen seventies, the People
- 10:32Speaker 2: versus Marx, which I believe is the first modern instance
- 10:35Speaker 2: of a bitemark on human skin being presented as evidence.
- 10:40Speaker 2: Can you tell us about this case?
- 10:42Speaker 3: So, Walter Marx was a weekend tenant of a woman
- 10:47Speaker 3: named Lovey Brazanski, and so the first time since he
- 10:51Speaker 3: had had this lease, he did not spend the night
- 10:54Speaker 3: on the weekend, and that same weekend the murder victim
- 10:58Speaker 3: turned up dead. Police discouvers the body on Sunday afternoon,
- 11:02Speaker 3: and they noticed that the victims nose had been indelicately
- 11:09Speaker 3: put bitten off, and the cartilage of the nose on
- 11:14Speaker 3: the victim's face had left the impression of what appeared
- 11:17Speaker 3: to be tooth marks. Mister Marx looked good for it,
- 11:20Speaker 3: but there wasn't really any evidence apart from the fact
- 11:22Speaker 3: that he didn't show up for his usual weekend stay.
- 11:27Speaker 3: So there was a group of dentists who had had
- 11:31Speaker 3: some history with identifying human bodies through dental records, which
- 11:34Speaker 3: is a totally different, unrelated subdiscipline of forensic dentistry. But
- 11:38Speaker 3: they had had some interest in bitemark evidence and had
- 11:43Speaker 3: been kind of looking for the right case to essentially
- 11:46Speaker 3: try this out. And interestingly, mister Mark spent four months
- 11:50Speaker 3: in jail on a contempt charge resisting the court order
- 11:54Speaker 3: to have a mold taken of his teeth. Eventually he
- 11:57Speaker 3: gave up and allowed the mold to be taken.
- 12:00Speaker 2: Now, let me stop you. There didn't like six or
- 12:03Speaker 2: eight weeks pass before they were able to compare the
- 12:06Speaker 2: impression on Walter Mark's teeth to the victim. And hadn't
- 12:10Speaker 2: she already been buried and they had to exhume her body?
- 12:14Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 12:14Speaker 3: You know what's interesting about that is that they still
- 12:17Speaker 3: do exclamations and do that type of powdern matching today.
- 12:22Speaker 2: Doesn't common sense just dictate that when you bury a
- 12:25Speaker 2: human body, the skin changes, it starts to wear and decompose.
- 12:31Speaker 2: It just seems like intuitive that if there was a
- 12:35Speaker 2: bite mark and you actually could compare a teeth to it,
- 12:38Speaker 2: that it wouldn't be, you know, worth anything to make
- 12:41Speaker 2: that comparison after a body had been buried for that long.
- 12:45Speaker 4: Yeah, precisely right.
- 12:46Speaker 3: You're asking the critical questions that no court in the
- 12:48Speaker 3: country asked for forty years, State after state after state
- 12:52Speaker 3: after state cite it back to the Walter Marx decision
- 12:56Speaker 3: as evidence of not just that it's amissibility, but if
- 12:59Speaker 3: it's signed tipic reliability.
- 13:02Speaker 2: This becomes the precedent. This becomes well, hey, bite mark
- 13:05Speaker 2: evidence was accepted in the Marx case, you should accept
- 13:09Speaker 2: it here, and all of a sudden, it just starts
- 13:11Speaker 2: to get accepted. How is that even possible?
- 13:14Speaker 4: Because it worked.
- 13:15Speaker 3: You know, the criminal justice system is an efficient, eating
- 13:18Speaker 3: and killing machine of largely poor people of color, and
- 13:22Speaker 3: whatever facilitates that process, it's going to be used as
- 13:27Speaker 3: long as courts admitted and bite mark evidence was introduced
- 13:30Speaker 3: as evidence. The court admitted it, it got upheld on appeal,
- 13:34Speaker 3: so it was good to go.
- 13:35Speaker 2: So bite mark evidence was officially accepted in the Marx
- 13:38Speaker 2: case and now it has been ingested, if you will,
- 13:43Speaker 2: into the criminal justice system. But it became acceptable to
- 13:47Speaker 2: the general public because of the Ted Bundy case.
- 13:50Speaker 4: Right, yeah, you know.
- 13:51Speaker 3: I mean I sometimes say that Ted Bundy ended up
- 13:54Speaker 3: having many more posthumous victims than any other serial killer
- 13:58Speaker 3: that we can be aware of, because that his trial
- 14:01Speaker 3: led to the widespread use of bite mark evidence all
- 14:03Speaker 3: over the country.
- 14:04Speaker 2: So for those of our listeners who don't know, but
- 14:07Speaker 2: I feel like it's safe to say, most dude, Ted
- 14:09Speaker 2: Bundy was one of the most infamous serial killers in
- 14:13Speaker 2: US history, and his murder trial was actually the first
- 14:17Speaker 2: criminal trial to ever be televised in the United States. Now,
- 14:22Speaker 2: there was overwhelming evidence that proved Bundy was guilty of killing, raping,
- 14:28Speaker 2: and torturing these young women from Florida State University. And
- 14:33Speaker 2: they had eyewitnessed testimony of him, you know, comings in
- 14:37Speaker 2: the murder scene, leaving the murder scene. They had things
- 14:41Speaker 2: that he had stolen from the homes of these women.
- 14:44Speaker 2: And there was sort of like a beltz in suspenders
- 14:46Speaker 2: moment where they wanted to make sure they did everything
- 14:50Speaker 2: they could to prove his guilt. And they spent two
- 14:53Speaker 2: full days presenting this bitemark testimony in the case. Why
- 14:59Speaker 2: do you think that it is, Chris.
- 15:00Speaker 3: People are hungry for every piece of news they could
- 15:04Speaker 3: possibly get about Ted Bundy.
- 15:06Speaker 4: Everybody believed he's guilty.
- 15:08Speaker 3: The only physical evidence in that case was the bitemark,
- 15:11Speaker 3: so it was touted as you know, bite marks are
- 15:13Speaker 3: the thing that finally brought Bundy down. And after Ted
- 15:15Speaker 3: Bundy was convicted and using bitemark evidence that really just
- 15:19Speaker 3: exploded all over the country.
- 15:39Speaker 2: There's something about teeth and dentists that gets associated with reliability, right,
- 15:44Speaker 2: I mean, we've all heard about dental records being used
- 15:48Speaker 2: to identify crime victims accident victims, and that sign seems
- 15:54Speaker 2: to be real, But that's very different from saying that
- 15:57Speaker 2: a bitemark can be used to identified the person that
- 16:01Speaker 2: did the biting.
- 16:02Speaker 3: Right, The identification of human remains through dental records is
- 16:06Speaker 3: kind of a trojan horse for the forensic dentistry crowd
- 16:09Speaker 3: to get into court on bitemark evidence, and I've seen
- 16:14Speaker 3: it firsthand in lots of dentists. Conflating these two subdisciplines
- 16:19Speaker 3: is the same thing. You identify people by their teeth,
- 16:22Speaker 3: and you identify people by the bite marks those teeth make,
- 16:26Speaker 3: and that kind of makes sense until you actually think
- 16:29Speaker 3: about it. The two techniques have nothing whatsoever to do
- 16:32Speaker 3: with each other.
- 16:33Speaker 2: So why doesn't bitemark evidence work? Why isn't it reliable?
- 16:38Speaker 3: Bite marks are totally different because you're interpreting an injury
- 16:41Speaker 3: on skin that has almost nothing to do with teeth
- 16:43Speaker 3: at all, And so all of the little individual, theoretically
- 16:46Speaker 3: unique differences in teeth that you're pointing out, the cracks,
- 16:50Speaker 3: the bevels, the crookedness or the straightness or the missing
- 16:54Speaker 3: tooth or this or that that you can think of,
- 16:56Speaker 3: that would be different from mouth to mouth or not
- 16:58Speaker 3: reflected in the skin whatsoever. But even if you can
- 17:01Speaker 3: say with some confidence that these two things can be associated,
- 17:08Speaker 3: then you have to answer the question is it one
- 17:10Speaker 3: in ten or is it one in ten million people
- 17:12Speaker 3: that might also match. So in DNA, we know you
- 17:15Speaker 3: know fairly well how many other people are likely to
- 17:19Speaker 3: share your DNA. We've done the statistical population frequencies to
- 17:23Speaker 3: know and to believe that the human DNA is unique.
- 17:27Speaker 4: We haven't done that with fingerprints or shoes.
- 17:29Speaker 3: Or tires or firearms, and we certainly have not done
- 17:32Speaker 3: those with teeth.
- 17:34Speaker 2: So you're saying that a bitemark and a suspect's tooth
- 17:37Speaker 2: might appear to match, but many other people's teeth might
- 17:41Speaker 2: match that same bite mark, so it's not a unique match.
- 17:45Speaker 3: Right, So you layer those problems on top of bite
- 17:47Speaker 3: marks where you're trying to interpret an injury in human skin,
- 17:51Speaker 3: where all skin is different, right, old people, young people,
- 17:55Speaker 3: thin people, heavy people. All these things make a difference
- 17:59Speaker 3: in individual skin characteristics. If you are flexing at the
- 18:03Speaker 3: time you were bitten, the bite mark's going to look
- 18:05Speaker 3: one way. If your arm was relaxed at the same time,
- 18:08Speaker 3: it would look a different way. Right, And if you
- 18:10Speaker 3: think about somebody who may be lost one hundred pounds
- 18:13Speaker 3: recently and has saggy skin as a result, right, the
- 18:15Speaker 3: way the bite mark is going to appear on that
- 18:17Speaker 3: person's going to be different than somebody who's you know,
- 18:21Speaker 3: puffy from drinking, right, and their skin's all taut and round,
- 18:24Speaker 3: you know, and you try and bite into that and
- 18:25Speaker 3: you're just going to engage a few teeth. So every
- 18:28Speaker 3: time that the same teeth make a bite mark, it's
- 18:31Speaker 3: going to look different every single time, depending on the
- 18:33Speaker 3: angle of the body, what type of struggle it was,
- 18:35Speaker 3: what type of person that you're dealing with. All of
- 18:38Speaker 3: these things are variables that change every single time. So
- 18:41Speaker 3: it's just fundamental speculation, you know, just guesswork that's proffered
- 18:45Speaker 3: as science.
- 18:46Speaker 4: Very very persuasive, but totally guesswork.
- 18:49Speaker 2: I read that someone can be missing their front teeth
- 18:53Speaker 2: bite down on human skin, and the bite mark can
- 18:58Speaker 2: make it appears if they actually have two front teeth,
- 19:01Speaker 2: and that someone would two front teeth that are fully
- 19:04Speaker 2: intact and bite down and the bitemark can look like
- 19:08Speaker 2: they are missing two front teeth.
- 19:10Speaker 3: Can really get the skin to say anything that you
- 19:12Speaker 3: needed to say, you can match a bitemark to almost
- 19:15Speaker 3: any suspect.
- 19:16Speaker 2: But if this evidence is so unreliable, then what exactly
- 19:20Speaker 2: makes these odentologists, these bitemark experts so convincing that they're
- 19:25Speaker 2: able to convince a judge or a jury of an
- 19:29Speaker 2: innocent person's guilt.
- 19:30Speaker 3: So you'll see these experts that are testifying and using
- 19:33Speaker 3: a lot of scientific terminology plus a lot of obscure
- 19:38Speaker 3: dental terminology, and the testimony just becomes opaque, and you
- 19:42Speaker 3: just kind of turn off your brain and your critical thinking.
- 19:44Speaker 3: And the experts sounds so persuasive because they have ten thousand.
- 19:49Speaker 4: Different ways to record a bite mark.
- 19:50Speaker 3: Some of them go so far as harvesting tissue they
- 19:53Speaker 3: call it from dead bodies and mounting them on silicone rings,
- 19:57Speaker 3: and they use ultra violet photography and digital photography and
- 20:00Speaker 3: black and white photography, and they use very very precise
- 20:05Speaker 3: dental molds, and they use dental materials that are highly
- 20:09Speaker 3: highly accurate. All that's very impressive, it's just totally meaningless.
- 20:12Speaker 3: There's massive distinction between collecting data and interpreting data and
- 20:19Speaker 3: what a lot of junk science relies on a very
- 20:22Speaker 3: very precise and impressive methods of collecting data and very
- 20:29Speaker 3: very light on interpreting the data.
- 20:31Speaker 2: And so the evidence of these so called expert odentologists
- 20:36Speaker 2: sound strong because of all the jargon and technology, and
- 20:40Speaker 2: in our society we're told to trust people in white
- 20:44Speaker 2: lab codes, and these guys, these odentologists, really do appear
- 20:47Speaker 2: to be experts.
- 20:49Speaker 3: When an expert witness gets on the stand, they don't
- 20:51Speaker 3: just start testifying, Right, what's the first thing that they do?
- 20:55Speaker 4: Right?
- 20:55Speaker 3: You go through their credentials cvs that are over twenty
- 20:58Speaker 3: pages long, apearances on sixty minutes presentations at the American
- 21:02Speaker 3: Academy of Forensic Sciences. This board membership, that board membership.
- 21:07Speaker 3: The credentials are off the.
- 21:08Speaker 2: Chain, right, So the jury hears all of these impressive credentials,
- 21:13Speaker 2: and why should they dispute it, And suddenly they start
- 21:17Speaker 2: believing that these so called experts must know what they're
- 21:21Speaker 2: talking about, that they're presenting solid scientific fact.
- 21:25Speaker 3: It takes a very very critical thinker and independent thinker
- 21:29Speaker 3: not to be lulled into a sense of, you know,
- 21:34Speaker 3: addicating your responsibility. And there's always two strikes against any
- 21:39Speaker 3: defendant that walks into criminal court and is on trial
- 21:42Speaker 3: you know, most of the people in the courtroom believe
- 21:44Speaker 3: that he or she is guilty already, the bias that
- 21:48Speaker 3: most Americans walk into court with with the idea that
- 21:52Speaker 3: the person that is on trial is guilty as charged.
- 21:55Speaker 2: Chris, I've heard of so many convictions where bitemark evidence
- 22:01Speaker 2: was used to gain the conviction and it was later
- 22:06Speaker 2: proven that the injuries weren't even human bites at all.
- 22:10Speaker 2: They were things like insect bites and animal bites or
- 22:14Speaker 2: you know, bruises, something else entirely.
- 22:17Speaker 3: One of the fundamental claims by bitemark experts, these forensic dentists,
- 22:23Speaker 3: is that they, through their training and experience, have the
- 22:27Speaker 3: ability to discern a human bitemark from other types of injuries.
- 22:32Speaker 3: What we can say in science is that if experts
- 22:35Speaker 3: look at the same evidence and largely come to similar
- 22:38Speaker 3: the same conclusions, there's some reliability in the technique. And
- 22:43Speaker 3: there was a study that was done about four years ago,
- 22:47Speaker 3: and what this was was a survey of the self
- 22:50Speaker 3: identified top forensic dentists in the country. It was about
- 22:53Speaker 3: forty of them, and they did a survey of one
- 22:56Speaker 3: hundred different injuries and they wanted to see if there
- 22:58Speaker 3: are inter raidar liability.
- 23:01Speaker 2: So when a bunch of vote intelligences looked at different
- 23:03Speaker 2: kinds of injuries, did they agree about whether or not
- 23:06Speaker 2: they were looking at photographs of human bite marks?
- 23:09Speaker 3: These top bite mark experts in the country, they were
- 23:13Speaker 3: all over the place. So even just as a threshold matter,
- 23:17Speaker 3: as we're talking about what's a bitemark and what isn't
- 23:19Speaker 3: a bite mark, it's junk science at that level too.
- 23:23Speaker 2: This study should have been the end of bite mark
- 23:25Speaker 2: evidence and courtrooms in this country, right, I mean, why
- 23:28Speaker 2: wasn't it?
- 23:29Speaker 3: It depends on really, you know, do you want the
- 23:30Speaker 3: cynical answer or do you want the long term answer.
- 23:32Speaker 3: The cynical answer is that courts don't care. Any tool
- 23:35Speaker 3: that is used successfully to prosecute indigent defendants in our
- 23:41Speaker 3: criminal justice system is almost always going to be available
- 23:46Speaker 3: to the prosecution and continue to be available to the
- 23:49Speaker 3: prosecution once it's become admissible in the first place, and
- 23:52Speaker 3: it's almost impossible to unwind it and to walk back
- 23:56Speaker 3: all that legal precedent. The prosecutors have a duty to
- 23:58Speaker 3: do justice, and that part of that to be never
- 24:00Speaker 3: using unreliable evidence in the case.
- 24:03Speaker 4: But that's not the way it's done. Once it's amissible.
- 24:05Speaker 3: The prosecutors are going to continue to fight for its
- 24:07Speaker 3: admissibility because it's useful to get convictions.
- 24:10Speaker 2: Right. The prosecutor who says, you know what, I feel
- 24:14Speaker 2: uncomfortable presenting a case that is built on junk science
- 24:19Speaker 2: is unfortunately the exception to the rule, and a very
- 24:24Speaker 2: rare exception at that. And I think what our listeners
- 24:27Speaker 2: need to understand is that prosecutors are often told go
- 24:32Speaker 2: get a conviction, and what matters to them is the win,
- 24:36Speaker 2: and the mentality is when it all costs, even if
- 24:41Speaker 2: it means presenting information that is known to be unscientific, unreliable, unsubstantiated,
- 24:49Speaker 2: including bitemark evidence. At the beginning of this episode, I
- 25:08Speaker 2: asked you to imagine yourself accused of a murder. The
- 25:12Speaker 2: victim had bitemarks all over their body. The prosecution brought
- 25:16Speaker 2: out a parade of experts. They presented what sounded like
- 25:20Speaker 2: unimpeachable scientific fact. You're sitting there knowing that you're innocent,
- 25:27Speaker 2: yet these so called facts about bitemarks are being used
- 25:30Speaker 2: to turn a jury against you. These supposed experts are
- 25:34Speaker 2: still being used to wrongly convict people all over the country.
- 25:40Speaker 2: There are people sitting on death row right now whose
- 25:44Speaker 2: cases are based on the junk signs of bitemark evidence.
- 25:48Speaker 2: The good news is that lawyers like Chris Fabricaon are
- 25:52Speaker 2: working with the Innocence Project to overturn cases that are
- 25:55Speaker 2: based on bitemark evidence.
- 25:57Speaker 3: Our objectives were was to eliminate the use of bite
- 26:01Speaker 3: mark evidence generally, which you know, sadly we still have
- 26:04Speaker 3: an accomplished that goal, but also defines the many, many
- 26:07Speaker 3: victims of this junk science and that are still incarcerated
- 26:11Speaker 3: around the country. You know, we still have five different
- 26:13Speaker 3: cases that we're working on right now with people that
- 26:16Speaker 3: are in prison and on death row. We have two
- 26:19Speaker 3: death row clients and one case that's about to go
- 26:22Speaker 3: to trial in another capital case in Pennsylvania that's also
- 26:25Speaker 3: you know, trying to use bite mark evidence.
- 26:28Speaker 2: The wheels of justice grind slowly, but there is hope
- 26:32Speaker 2: Chris's attempt to eliminate bitemark evidence from our criminal justice
- 26:37Speaker 2: system is indeed paying off. One of Chris's clients, Shila Denton,
- 26:43Speaker 2: who was wrongfully convicted based on bite mark evidence, was
- 26:47Speaker 2: released from prison this past April.
- 26:49Speaker 3: Sheila Denton was convicted fifteen years ago for the homicide
- 26:55Speaker 3: of a drug dealer in Georgia. The state's theory was
- 27:00Speaker 3: that Sheila Denton, who's you know, weighed in about one
- 27:03Speaker 3: hundred and ten hundred and fifteen pounds, had manually strangled
- 27:07Speaker 3: this crack dealer who's maybe about one hundred and eighty
- 27:10Speaker 3: pounds man, and there was an injury on her arm,
- 27:14Speaker 3: and there was an injury on the victim's arm. The
- 27:18Speaker 3: forensic dentist in the case, a guy named Tom David,
- 27:20Speaker 3: said it was probable that Sheila Denton had bitten the victim,
- 27:24Speaker 3: and it was also probable that the victim had bitten
- 27:27Speaker 3: Sheila Denton, and that was essentially the only evidence in
- 27:30Speaker 3: the case. So Sheila Denton was fairly quickly convicted.
- 27:33Speaker 2: But when the case was overturned, Chris was able to
- 27:36Speaker 2: convince not only the judge but also the odentologists who
- 27:40Speaker 2: testified for the prosecution that bitemark evidence is nothing but
- 27:44Speaker 2: junk science.
- 27:46Speaker 3: You know, for an expert who drank the kool aid
- 27:48Speaker 3: for many years and has been declared an expert witness
- 27:51Speaker 3: in courts around the country and takes a lot of
- 27:53Speaker 3: personal and professional pride in the forensic identology practice, you know,
- 27:58Speaker 3: I mean and busting bad guys asked apect of their
- 28:01Speaker 3: civic duties to come to the realization that they were wrong,
- 28:06Speaker 3: that everything that they had talked about and everything that
- 28:09Speaker 3: they believed in was bullshit. That's very, very powerful, and
- 28:12Speaker 3: you need more of that in forensics.
- 28:18Speaker 2: You might be wondering how you can help besides being
- 28:22Speaker 2: a more critical and informed jour The Innocence Projects Policy
- 28:26Speaker 2: Department works in all fifty states to pass laws that
- 28:30Speaker 2: facilitate releasing innocent people from prison and preventing wrongful convictions.
- 28:35Speaker 2: Sign up for their newsletter so you can see the
- 28:38Speaker 2: policies that are being proposed in your community. There's an
- 28:42Speaker 2: expression that I like to use in wrongful incarceration cases,
- 28:46Speaker 2: which is that pressure breaks pipes. These exonerations don't come easy.
- 28:52Speaker 2: They're usually the result of a grueling fight, and your
- 28:56Speaker 2: voice matters. What I mean by that is, make noise
- 29:01Speaker 2: about the junk science of bitemark evidence. Write a letter
- 29:04Speaker 2: to your local criminal court judges about how inaccurate it is.
- 29:08Speaker 2: Send them articles about its flaws. Write an op ed.
- 29:12Speaker 2: Judges are human, they can be persuaded, and you have
- 29:16Speaker 2: the power to help change their minds by speaking up.
- 29:20Speaker 2: You have learned from this episode, how dangerous one case,
- 29:24Speaker 2: one legal precedent can be in infecting our system of
- 29:28Speaker 2: justice with junk science. All it takes is one more
- 29:32Speaker 2: to write that wrong. And if you wind up as
- 29:35Speaker 2: a juror in a criminal case and you find yourself
- 29:38Speaker 2: presented with something that is touted as science, ask tough
- 29:42Speaker 2: questions of your fellow jurors when you're deliberating. Approach it
- 29:46Speaker 2: with a healthy degree of skepticism. Demand answers to tough
- 29:50Speaker 2: questions if something doesn't make sense, Give the defendant the
- 29:55Speaker 2: benefit of the doubt. After all, isn't that what the
- 29:58Speaker 2: presumption of innocence is all about. If you do that,
- 30:03Speaker 2: if you demand real proof beyond a reasonable doubt and
- 30:07Speaker 2: it doesn't meet that standard, you might just prevent the
- 30:11Speaker 2: next wrongful conviction. Next week, we'll explore the junk signs
- 30:21Speaker 2: of blood spatter analysis with award winning journalist Pamela Koloff
- 30:25Speaker 2: from Pro Publica and The New York Times. Pam has
- 30:28Speaker 2: written extensively about this kind of evidence. As part of
- 30:32Speaker 2: her research, she actually became a certified blood spatter analyst.
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