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Radiologist: Cancer Rates SKYROCKETING Among the Vaxxed · Man in America Podcast

• 0:02
  Seth Holehouse: Ladies and gentlemen welcome to Man in America, I'm your host Seth Hulghouse. So we're now seeing the reality of the injection play out, not only are we seeing the died suddenly, the videos of people that are just falling over and dying whether it's an athlete on a field or someone performing on stage, but what's also happening is it's not just the heart related issues that we're seeing like I said with the died suddenly, there have also been a massive spike and increase in the amount of cancer but not just cancer in general but specifically aggressive cancer we're seeing you know cancer it goes from no one's it's not detected to within that to one month people dying of aggressive tumors that are spreading all over their bodies. This is not normal. And so joining me today is Doctor. Chris Flowers, who's an academic cancer radiologist and author and a member of the Pfizer Documents Analysis Projects.
• 0:57
  We're talking about what he's seen from his perspective as a radiologist in what's happening with the cancer. But folks before we get started, I've got a few message for you. First off, make sure you're following me on social media at Man in America. Also on Twitter as Man in America US. Every show is also done as a podcast.
• 1:16
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• 1:42
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• 2:58
  All right, folks, let's go ahead and dive right into the interview. So Doctor. Flowers, thank you so very much for joining me here today. It's an honor to have you. You're doing some very important work.
• 3:08
  And yeah, it's great to have you here.
• 3:11
  Speaker 2: Thank you for inviting me, sir.
• 3:12
  Seth Holehouse: Oh, absolutely. So your as I said in the intro introduction, your specialty is really cancer and understanding cancer. And, you know, what we're seeing is really since the rollout of the vaccine, there's a lot of different strange phenomena happening in the health world, whether it's people dying suddenly, or young children having heart attacks or strokes, or even young folks getting cancer, but not just any cancer, you know, cancer that's rapidly progressing. And, you know, to to kind of highlight the issue, I'm gonna pull up our favorite news source of CNN, which, you know, it's occasionally, it's good to reference them because you can see what they're not talking about and what they are talking about. So the headline that we have in this article, and this came out in October, says a global epidemic of cancer among people younger than 50 could be emerging.
• 4:04
  Now, in the article, they talk about all the different, you know, rising rates in cancer, and basically how with certain cancers, the younger you are, the more likely you're gonna get this cancer. Yet when they look at what would potentially cause this increase in cancer in the last couple of years, they say it's lifestyle. They say it's, you know, food additives. They they they don't even mention the fact that, you know, most half of the world has taken an experimental vaccine or an injection since the the time of, you know, kind of measuring these cancers. But, of course, there's no mention of that in the article.
• 4:41
  So from your perspective, what are you seeing with cancer over the past couple of years?
• 4:49
  Speaker 2: You know, we need to put it into perspective because cancer, as you know, is a disease of elderly people. So, you know, you don't start getting significant rates of cancer until you're 50. And that's when we start colorectal screening. You have your have your colonoscopy every ten years, the most unpleasant experience it is. But it's necessary to try and prevent these cancers because they are pretty nasty type of cancers.
• 5:18
  But they affect you when you get older. Younger people getting cancers, they're much rarer. They tend to be blood cancers, lymphomas, this sort of thing. But as I say, they are rare. And that is why when cancer specialists start seeing these increases in cancer in young people, we get concerned This is not a normal phenomenon, which is not, as you say, is not the only thing that's happened really since January 2021 when virtually everyone started taking the vaccine.
• 5:54
  It's the same as this the sudden unexpected death syndrome, unexplained, postmortem negative. They couldn't find anything wrong. But these are all related to the spike protein that we believe is the spike protein that's causing most of this. Obviously, initially caused by the mRNA producing making our own cells produce this spike protein for us then to make antibodies against. And if you think about it, the spike protein gets in all sorts of body parts and your body starts producing immunity against those body parts because it's got the spike protein in.
• 6:42
  This is one of the main explanations of the huge rise in what's called autoimmune disease. So in other words, your own body is attacking your own body and causing all sorts of symptoms. And this is this is a really serious thing. It's not just the cancers. The first thing that we noticed was, the problems with myocarditis.
• 7:06
  And we found, by research that, the FDA knew when they produced the EUA, they extended the EUA, that myocarditis was a real problem for it's particularly for adult, adolescent males, especially after the second dose of the vaccine. They did nothing about it until they finally admitted it when they produced that the Pfizer's commercial product called Cominati, which has never been available in The US because it's not under emergency use authorization. So that is a big problem. But as I say, it's the spike protein we believe, spike protein disease that's causing a lot of these problems. Cancer the cancers themselves start because there's a change in the, both the surrounding, it's called the milieu, which is just a it's a fancy French term for meaning the environment in which normal cells reside.
• 8:16
  And if there's aggravating changes that come along, usually the body is able to, you know, repair itself all the time. That's what the body does. And when it it doesn't like certain things, it sells along sends along these white cells that called macrophages that eat up and destroy these rogue cells. But for some reason, the cells are not acting in the normal way. It's called dysregulation.
• 8:48
  That just means the normal regulation processes that stop cells multiplying at a rapid rate. Those those are called checkpoint inhibitors. And those like a padlock preventing those cells from multiplying and becoming a growth. For some reason, these are triggered not to work. And so the cells start dividing.
• 9:16
  And of course, if they keep on dividing because that same spike protein is sitting there causing all sorts of trouble, Then you get a rise both. It's not just in cancers, but it's in benign tumors too. And bear in mind that some of these benign tumors require surgery and surgery has occasional side effects, severe adverse events, including death. And it's so you always have to weigh the benefits versus the risk whenever you take any intervention from your doctor, your health care professional. And that's what we really should have had.
• 9:55
  We should have had informed consent when, so that we didn't have the vaccine forced upon us. We knew nothing about it. Yeah. But in fact, way back when in 02/2012, the mRNA lipid nanoparticle technology was actually well known to be a dangerous platform. And as a result, doctor doctor Malone can talk to you about this, is is that they were really concerned.
• 10:24
  Well, it was gonna be a good delivery system for chemotherapy drugs to attack certain tumors that would normally kill you within the space of a few months. For example, the glioblastoma in the brain. And that's because of this lipid nanoparticle is a transport mechanism that can get across normal protective mechanisms like the blood brain barrier, like the placenta, things like that. But it was recognized that both lipid nanoparticles themselves caused inflammation, especially to blood vessels. And, of course, we know now the spike protein is causing all sorts of issues.
• 11:04
  And that's another talk in itself. Just the problems occurring, the cardiac issues, the arrhythmias, the sudden deaths, all of these things. Again, it's hitting young people who didn't die of the disease. Usually, it was just a bad cold or a flu, and they got over it. And yet Yeah.
• 11:24
  We forced this inoculum on them.
• 11:28
  Seth Holehouse: So am I correct in understanding? So there's really there's we're seeing two primary rises and spikes and and really adverse events in term aside from death. Right? So cancers and then autoimmune disorders where, you know, kind of like AIDS, for instance, or is Parkinson's another example? You know, where basically the body's attacking the nervous system.
• 11:51
  Right?
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You get depletion of dopamine in the basal ganglia, which is the part of the brain stem. But and that's normally just a degenerative occurrence, basically, just as you age. And some people, you know, like back to the future guy, Michael Fox, He developed Parkinson's at a very young age, and that but that is unusual. Most of these sort of degenerative diseases, cancers, and everything else occur in older people, which is why when you show me that paper from CNN, they are a little bit behind the times because cancer specialists across the world have been complaining about the increase in workload.
• 12:37
  And at first, they were thinking, well, oh, it must be because these people have not been coming for their screening. They missed their screening.
• 12:43
  Seth Holehouse: There's a lockdown.
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: They've missed their screen, but the the screening doesn't occur until you're 50. So that doesn't explain all these young people getting cancers. There there aren't really good screening tests for young people and cancer at the moment, basically because it's pretty rare. Yeah. I mean, why would you put people through sometimes uncomfortable tests just to see if someone potentially may have cancer somewhere there.
• 13:15
  Maybe you can't even see it yet because it's it's so small. So we we always when we're looking at screening for a cancer, you're looking at the benefits versus the risks, even for a screening test, you know, because even, for example, in my sphere is breast cancer in particular. The one of the main concerns people have had is, well, what if you've got an abnormal mammogram and but it's not due to a cancer? And so some people then had to have extra x rays or ultrasound MRIs. They had to have biopsies.
• 13:51
  Sometimes they ended up having to have minor surgery. And at the end of the day, it wasn't cancer at all. So you end up then with, what's basically a negative event, something that you really didn't want. But you try and balance that against, well, we've saved a lot of people because we picked up their cancer early. So it's it's a very nuanced thing.
• 14:14
  But if you notice, when we look back on what's happened in the last two and a half years, there was a, there was no informed consent. But b, there was no discussion of the balance of risk. You know, they knew that children weren't going to die of COVID. They were swearing like heck that any vaccine mister Baller was saying this vaccine is going to prevent transmission. No.
• 14:42
  It wasn't. It was never looked at to reduce transmission, but the CDC kept on promulgating that message. And so at the end of the day, you've got all these three letter agencies, the regulatory bodies who are not regulating. They're doing the bidding of big pharma. So pharma make all the profits, and yet patients are not protected.
• 15:08
  You know, I've I've worked with the FDA on and off over the years, And say it was probably thirty thirty odd years ago when I was assisting an American company producing a piece of imaging equipment. And the lengths of tests and everything else that we had to go through to satisfy the FDA just to do trials, never mind anything else, we had to produce evidence that it wasn't going to cause any adverse events to the patient if we could actually do a trial of something new. And yet look what happened with the vaccine. You know? There there was the the the Pfizer trial itself, we've been looking at extensively with the 3,500 volunteers, most of whom are physicians like myself, or nurses, and some clinical trial specialists too, who've all been used to doing clinical trials over the years.
• 16:10
  And you look at the Pfizer documents, and they didn't follow their own protocols. In one of our latest papers, we actually found that they what they did before the EUA was produced, they actually excluded vaccine patients who received the vaccine who got COVID. In other words, they were manipulating the data. So when it came up to the EUA, they were able to say, oh, ninety five percent effective. You know, only eight people got, got COVID if they got the vaccine, and a hundred and sixty two people, the the unvaccinated got COVID.
• 16:47
  But that isn't true. You know? And we've we've got the evidence from Pfizer's own documents. And that's, that's been published already. And, we're working with several teams around the world, both in France and Australia as well, working on this data because it appears that it's very similar in Moderna and even some of the other more conventional, spike protein inducing vaccinations.
• 17:16
  Seth Holehouse: And so looking at the mechanism that that actually ends up causing cancer and abnormal growths, am I correct in understanding that something about the mRNA delivery technology in conjunction with the spike proteins, it basically it stops that regulator within the cells that would normally say, okay, hey, cell, you're only gonna divide once every 24 hours, hypothetically. It turns that off. It's like taking a throttle, you know, a a limiting governor off of an engine that can go as fast as it goes until the engine blows up. Right? They they don't they don't let that
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: happen. That's right.
• 17:49
  Seth Holehouse: And so the cell just keeps speeding I see. I see. So that so is that why, like, we're seeing cancer of all kinds? It's not like it's targeting the brain in particular and saying it's only brain cancer. Are you seeing an increase in cancer?
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Cancer tends to be another it's across the board. It's not mainly in the brain. You might expect an increased incidence of brain cancer, and we may yet see that. But I haven't seen any data on that. Most of the cancers are where you expect this lipid nanoparticle to go because, you know, the original Pfizer pharmacokinetic document, which they did on mice, they showed where these lipid nanoparticles go.
• 18:39
  It didn't stay in the deltoid muscle. It went to the it went to the liver first, spleen, kidneys, adrenals, and then to the ovaries, to the testes, places we really don't want the spike protein going.
• 18:53
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• 21:32
  Speaker 2: So then, of course, you're gonna get ovarian cancer, testicular cancer. Absolutely. Yeah. Breast cancer. And then, of course, crossing the placenta for for pregnant women.
• 21:45
  Even though in the original trials, they said whatever you do, don't give the vaccine. Don't put people in the trials who are pregnant. It is not a good idea. They decided to approve the vaccine for pregnant women based on eight the findings of eight rats. And that's it.
• 22:05
  Same with children. The vaccine was based on rat data and not on human data. And we know just how badly that sort of turned out.
• 22:16
  Seth Holehouse: Now when you mentioned that, you know, after the vaccine rolled out, a lot of the cancer, you know, doctors and people that were screening were seeing they're overwhelmed. What kind of numbers are we talking about? I mean, you know, from a statistical perspective, right, what kind of what increase in cancer have we seen, you know, in the over the past, say, two years or so?
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Well, the the first thing we saw was things that simulate cancer. So for example, as you might expect, when you get injected in your shoulder, your lymph glands underneath your armpit there, they're going to swell up. Now that is one of the areas that some that is shown on a mammogram. So when ladies are having breast screening, we see these large solid lymph glands, which to in a normal circumstance before COVID vaccination, we would say was a lymphoma until proven otherwise. And so patients used to have to have these lymph glands removed and tested under the microscope to confirm or refute that diagnosis.
• 23:21
  So obviously it caused a huge amount of anxiety, a huge amount of unnecessary surgery. And initially, we were telling people, well, don't come for your mammogram for two months after your vaccine if you have a vaccine. And then they realized, well, actually, these lymph nodes are still there six months later. So when you come to do a follow-up exam, wait a minute. If these are normal lymph nodes being induced as a result of an infection from, for example, your vaccine in your arm, why are they still there?
• 23:54
  We better biopsy them again. So here you go through another whole cycle. So you've got people who don't have cancer, who've had unnecessary treatment, which most people forget about. They forget about all these people who end up having to do these expensive biopsies and pay for the pathologist and all the other tests that need to be done on it, and sometimes surgery, for something that really shouldn't have happened. So then you get the other things that we've seen is the rising cancers and not just numbers.
• 24:32
  It's it's more the way the cancers have actually changed. So for example, you can do a biopsy. Say you've got a grade a grade one tumor. Now a grade one tumor is something very slow growing tumor. It's something you don't, you know, chill chill out.
• 24:48
  We don't have to rush here. You know? A grade three tumor is a nasty tumor which has the potential of metastasizing spreading throughout the body. So obviously, there's a sense of urgency there. You want to go in, you want to get that treatment done as soon as possible.
• 25:05
  So that allowed, some further workup to be done. And what we began to see was some of these grade one tumors were turning into grade two and grade three tumors. Now this doesn't normally happen. You have a you have a population of cells there that admittedly are heterogeneous. They've got a mix of different cells that respond to, for example, estrogen, and some may not respond to estrogen.
• 25:35
  Some, display over expression of certain, markers on them, and some don't. So there is a there is a a heterogenic part of a tumor, but it still remains a grade one tumor. You don't normally see a change from a grade one to a grade two, and even less likely are you to see a grade one go to a grade three. So that goes from something where you're chilling out, you know, no no rush to something that's urgent. Something has changed in that tumor, and we've not experienced it before.
• 26:13
  The only thing we know has happened in the interim is that patients started having vaccines, and there was a spike protein. Now and, of course, this is gonna be a great field for research. There isn't enough research being done on it because they're not doing what Pierre Corie has recommended, which is when people have biopsies that they ask for a spike protein stain to see whether there's any spike protein sitting around in in in the in the disease. So that was that's one aspect of it. Then the other aspect, which is very concerning is is, the patients we have who basically have been given the all clear.
• 27:00
  So they've they've had their surgery, they've had the radiation, maybe chemotherapy, all tests totally negative. Three months later, they've got a lump under their arm. They've got swelling of their abdomen, and the test showed that the cancer is all over the body. Now this is again, we we don't normally see this. This is extremely rare.
• 27:21
  You know, it's the sort of thing that you would write up in a case report for a journal. You know, this this is so rare. It deserves mentioning in in medical journals. And yet, this is something that is now deemed to be common. It's like, you know, you talk to someone and they'll say, oh, yes.
• 27:40
  I I had a patient like that the other week. And you think, are you asking any questions? You know, why why is that why do you think that's happening? You know? Oh, I don't know.
• 27:53
  I had another one the other month. I mean and and and so one of the problems I think we have is that a lot of my colleagues, I have to say that most of them, are are sort of blinded to to science. I don't know what's gone on because, you know, for scientists, we ask questions. That's the nature of science is you're always asking questions. You know?
• 28:17
  Nothing is settled in science. You're always learning more. And I and I just wonder if the lockdowns and everything else that we've become a subservient, you know, population, that we're just compliant. We don't push back against any narrative. We don't want to answer a question, and and I don't understand why.
• 28:39
  Now I know we can't we can't get funding easily. You know, doctor Fauci has been in control. He's he's been the bigwig for decades now, keeping control of, the finance and the money coming out of the NIH, for example, with Francis Collins, both of who, of course, have resigned now. But even Fauci, it's a revolving door. He's oh, he's now going to be looking at long COVID, which is another one of these fallacious narratives that they're they're writing.
• 29:14
  All with all they're talking about is spike protein disease. You know, there are lots of experts around the world who've been looking at this, who've been basically de platformed, had their medical licenses removed, or their privileges withdrawn from from hospitals just for, providing a service and questioning the narrative. And, you know, this is this is the way we need to be going. We need to look at all of this as, whether it's from COVID and having spike disease as a result of that, or more importantly is for those, normal members of society who've taken a vaccine without informed consent, not knowing that they were going to end up with a spike protein in the body that was potentially, could be a killer for them, especially as you and I as males, Obviously, we're at extreme risk of these cardiac events occurring. And when you hear about, you know, football coaches just dropping dead, young players on on soccer players on the field just dropping dead.
• 30:22
  I mean, luckily, there wasn't anyone at the World Cup who was playing who died, but there were there were two very fit male journalists who died, and they said, oh, oh, he he had an aneurysm, which popped. Yes. Now aneurysms are rare in people of that age, number one. Number two, spike proteins actually cause inflammation of the lining of the blood vessels. And that's part of the problem.
• 30:51
  You can get an aneurysm from the spike protein. You know, don't just take it for granted that, you know, it was just one of those things. You know, Pfizer's not to blame. Yes. They are.
• 31:04
  And, Moderna and all the others. But eventually at the top, you know, the FDA are to blame. We have to you know, my point of view is that you just have to investigate these agencies. We've got to get rid of the deep pharma funding of both medical staff, of, the people who regulate the regulators. They're all paid off by, pharma.
• 31:31
  They receive funding from farmer. And when they finally retire, they go into a very nice lucrative big pharma job. None of this is good use of resources. It's not scientifically good practice. And the only way forward is to really, it's almost like we have to start again and work on ways of, look, put the population first.
• 32:02
  It's like we need to put the men and the women in America First, you know, not companies. I mean, I don't I don't understand what's happened with the Democrat Party, for example. Know, they always used to be big on being against pharma. They used to be against Can you remember it? They were actually against big pharma.
• 32:27
  No. Even a lot of them
• 32:28
  Seth Holehouse: were reduced. Like, liberal or new age movements were so against like, in particular, that subset, they were so against it. We're just seeing it's it's it's like there's a psychosis that that's emerged with people.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. This is this is where, you know, professor Desmond Mehmet's idea of this mass formation psychosis could account for it, but I don't I'm I'm stumped for words because every time I I talk to people, you know, I'm desperately trying to red pill people all the time. I managed it with someone I live nearby at a Christmas party and I managed to persuade someone that they didn't need to take the vax just before they flew to Japan even though they were going to go and see their child, their grandchild for the first time in several years. I said, maybe you ought to just put it off until they allow you in without the vaccine, you know, because it's you know, Japan don't allow people in unless you're fully vaccinated.
• 33:30
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. So with the younger people, especially the rise in in cancer, and that was an odd part of that scene in articles was looking through that said the younger you are, the higher the rate of getting the different kinds of cancers. Is that because, basically, once that regulator gets kind of turned off, is it because a younger person, their metabolism is just producing cells that much faster? So without that regulation, a young body will produce excess cells that would, you know, turn into growths, tumors, and cancer quicker? Like, what's the mechanism of why this is targeting younger people?
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's a that's a very good hypothesis, and I'd like it to be tested. So if you can I think we could write a write a good trial around that? The answer is we don't actually know, which is like a lot of these questions. We are seeing the effects and cancers take a lot longer than other things like the sudden adult death, the arrhythmias and things like that.
• 34:33
  Those occur immediately. Cancers tend to take a few months to a few years to occur. Although this is obviously in in short notice, you know, two years, we're seeing a lot of lot of cancers. But we don't we don't actually know why. It may just be the type of cancers because they're lymphatic.
• 34:54
  In other words, it's it's your diff your immune defense system when you're younger, it seems to get attacked more. Again, it's it may be due to the amount of spike protein because as you know, people aged 12 are getting the same dose of vaccine as an adult, three hundred pound male, and they may be what what about forty kilograms, who knows, pounds maximum. Or it could be some something different. We we we don't really know. But the other aspect of it was the lipid nanoparticles getting to places that it wouldn't normally get to.
• 35:43
  And as a result of being ingested by the white cells, again, it's attacking those, and then you get in the mRNA incorporating itself by reverse transcription into the DNA of that cell, producing the spike protein and then causing the damage from within. But again, it's these are all hypotheses, And so I don't actually have any answers for you. I have lots of questions for myself and my colleagues that, you know, we we need you're right. We need to answer these questions. We need to have more clarity.
• 36:16
  But I think we're not going to get that clarity unless more people ask questions and people start staining for the spike protein on with immunohistochemical staining and on any biopsy. And I think doctor Pierre Corre is the is the main one who's pushing this. But a lot of people now are picking up on this. And and every at every opportunity, we're talking to hospital pathology departments and trying to get them to do this spike protein immunohistochemical stain on any biopsy, any surgery they get, especially cancers. And I think then we may get a much much more true idea of what's going on.
• 37:02
  I'm afraid I can't I can't answer your question like I would I would like to give you a very erudite answer, but I don't have those answers. I just have more questions. But my approach to that is, well, that's science. That's what we do. You know, we have to ask questions and keep asking questions.
• 37:25
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. It's like a like a three year old. You you question everything. That's how you learn so much. Right?
• 37:29
  You stop questioning. You stop learning. I've also been seeing a lot of reports like what you mentioned. Okay. You said, okay.
• 37:37
  You have a level one tumor that all of a sudden becomes, you know, level three or category three, which is, you know, it does not happen as you've mentioned. And I'm seeing a lot of different reports of say, younger person, it'll be a news article, say it's a 37 year old teacher, mother of three, and they say that she just found out she had cancer, you know, say, eight weeks ago or six weeks ago, and then she died all of a sudden. And that was it was a very quick process, right? Whereas normally, as you mentioned, for most of these tumors are slower growing, but we're seeing this increase in people finding out they have cancer, but then it's it's growing so quickly, multiplying so quickly, they're dying within weeks or months after that. Is that something that you're seeing?
• 38:27
  And and if so, what do you think is is behind that?
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: What more of what I'm seeing is, I mean, there is a rapid growth of the tumors. Yes. Definitely. But because the spike protein is around, it's affecting women just not quite as much as men, but it affects the electrical pathways of the heart. And this is what the postulated reason is for these sudden unexplained deaths.
• 38:53
  So although it's mainly in men, it does occur in women. When you have a cancer, your immune system does not respond like it should do normally. And as a result, your electrolytes may be deranged. It's very easy because you feel nauseated not to drink adequately, you know, you're not dehydrated properly, you know, your body salts may be on the low side, for example. And then you are likely to have a cardiac event without even talking about the spike protein.
• 39:31
  So you've always got that's always something to think about in the background. But knowing what we know about the spike protein in the heart, the spike protein in arrhythmias, the spike protein on the inflammation of blood vessels, All of these things suggest that maybe there are two processes going on at the same time. So in other words, two things can be true at the same time. So I suspect that there was a set in these cases, is this separate cardiac issue, and the cancer may be incidental or it could again, it could be related, but we we don't actually know again. And it's it's embarrassing to be able to to just to actually say say that to you because we just don't have the answers, and we need the answers.
• 40:22
  Seth Holehouse: Considering that, you know, the vaccine only rolled out, you know, really about, you know, roughly two years ago, and we're already seeing this increase in cancer, and these are just obviously what we're seeing are things are growing more quickly. Do you expect that over, say, the next five or ten years that we're gonna have a a true cancer epidemic like we've never seen before as a result of this?
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: I think I think you've got you've got two different factors. You've got you've definitely got that factor, and we're going to see an increase, definitely. But more importantly is the fact that people have lost faith in the medical profession
• 40:59
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: In in, you know, in in the regulatory bodies. I mean, who do you trust anymore? I mean, you certainly don't trust the mainstream media. But, you know, when your doctor tells you to take a vaccine that's caused you damage, how how do you trust that doctor to advise you appropriately? Again, you know, you question, you know, is this you know, the distrust of big pharma doesn't isn't gonna help, but then that is that is perfectly reasonable to distrust big pharma.
• 41:33
  But for example, taking chemotherapy, yes, it can lengthen your your life. But, you know, you've got to balance the the adverse events which are quite severe, know, you lose your hair, you're constantly nauseated, you may have terrible pain. There are all sorts of things that you have to balance. And big pharma make a lot of money from these chemotherapy agents. And when you do the calculations, you're sitting with a patient, what you do is you work out with them.
• 42:06
  You use, special online tools based on the type of tumor they have, the grade, some of the different markers that tell you what the risk of recurrence is and things like that. And as a result, you end up with a number. And what it says is, for example, the the normal response is, oh, you've got a two percent reduction in your risk of dying in the next five years. Now a lot of people jump on that. They say, oh, fantastic.
• 42:36
  Two percent improvement. But, you know, you you may already have an eighty percent chance of surviving to five years anyway. So what's an extra two percent going to give you when you know if you're given proper and informed consent of the discomfort you're gonna have to go through having the chemotherapy? So as I as I talked to you said at the beginning of of this discussion, it's like it's the benefits versus the risks. And that's part of informed consent that we've been denied over the past few years.
• 43:13
  And I and really do fear that informed consent is sort of going out the window. You know, we're much more compliance to population. We therefore do what the doctor says. We do what government well, we don't. But you know what I mean?
• 43:30
  People tend to just go along with the flow, you know. Well, the doctor recommended it, so I'm gonna take it, you know. But at the end of the day, are you going to benefit from it? You know, what is what is the what is best for you? And that's, you know why back in the day, twenty years ago plus, we developed personalized cancer medicine.
• 43:52
  So every patient who had treatment for cancer, they always had it the the treatment personalized for their particular tumor. So you wanted to know everything about the tumor so you could recommend appropriate therapies. And that was great because I used to walk with the patient on what's called the cancer journey together. And then, you know, when they were able to ring the bell when they were cancer free, it was fantastic. Everyone on the on the cancer ward, the oncology wards were clapping and cheering, giving hugs to the patient.
• 44:25
  You know, you have done it. You know, you're cancer free. And then you take that vaccine and OMG, here we go again. And this time, it's not something that you can survive. And that's the other problem that that wasn't brought up in that paper, you know, is, you know, when when there are recurrences, they're deadly recurrences.
• 44:46
  They're not they're not something that people can survive. So we what we've got to
• 44:51
  Seth Holehouse: do cured from cancer before they get the vaccine, it comes back when it's a situation where it comes back through, the chance of living is very low. Right?
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The normally, you can get a recurrence, and it just happens to be another variant of the same tumor. In other words, you've killed off. Think of think of the of a cancer being a little forest. Surrounding that forest is a fence.
• 45:18
  Inside of that forest, you've got both a population of red squirrels and a population of gray squirrels. Now the red squirrels tend to get overwhelmed by the gray squirrels because they're a much more aggressive type of squirrel. They tend to overpopulate. This has happened in many countries now where the red squirrel has been made extinct. But the red squirrel can be killed easily.
• 45:44
  So you think of the patient who's got a cancer and you've given the chemotherapy, it's killed off all the easy ones. But when it comes back, you've got the nasty gray squirrels coming back. So that's always been a problem that you're getting the more aggressive type of tumors. And so we had to develop different strategies to try and get around that, confuse the gray squirrels. So they started copulating, and then we hit them with the chemotherapy intermittently.
• 46:13
  And so just as they started copulating, we hit them with some chemo and off they popped. And that proved to be a much better way of dealing with these weird populations of cancer cells. But since the spike protein, things have happened that are very different, that don't follow the the normal pathways. So again, why? And, well, we know we think we know why.
• 46:40
  So a, we we need to prove that it's the spike protein that's doing this. If it's doing it, then what can you do to prevent this happening in the future? Are there any treatments to get rid of the spike protein, which I think we know according to the FLCCC protocol, there are potential ways of getting rid of it. But also then, are cancers actually induced by this spike protein? Is there something permanently we can do in the population to try and prevent this occurring in the future for anybody?
• 47:19
  And then, of course, they'll say, oh, well, we've got this vaccine. We've got in the '29 in what's 2020, we developed this vaccine that produced the spike protein. We could give that to everybody. I can I can see history repeating itself here? You know, it's it is a real dystopian novel of of of repetition of the same mistakes over and over and over again.
• 47:45
  And this is what happens to civilizations. You know, it's almost like, are we in Rome fiddling while Rome is burning? You know, it's like
• 47:55
  Seth Holehouse: I feel like it.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: We have to wake up wake up, guy.
• 47:59
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. Yeah. I I feel like it. For people that did get the vaccine or, you know, the vaccine, a couple of boosters or whatever, and say they're they're, you know, watching this, which I think is the case for a lot of people. They got it.
• 48:11
  They thought, okay, trust the doctor. But it wasn't until say six months, eight months later, they a friend shared an article with them, or they had their own adverse events. They started doing some research. So for folks like that, they're now realizing, okay, I can't take it out of my body. So if I'm on on track to have a higher chance of getting cancer or anything like that, what should I do?
• 48:36
  Like, are there any, you know, is there any advice for someone that already got the vaccine that's now concerned about potentially getting cancer?
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: So I can give you the same advice I gave myself because I was someone who always trusted in vaccines. I took both the the first and the second dose in March of twenty twenty and then took the booster dose and had a really pretty severe adverse event myself from it. And then I began to hear from people who were questioning the vaccine and the issues with the spike protein. And then I started doing some basic research on mRNA and lipid nanoparticles for a start. And then I realized we we have a problem here.
• 49:29
  And so as a result, I've never taken another booster shot, neither will I ever. And then, really, we had to look to people who'd already started dealing with this because the interesting thing is that not everyone received the same amount of mRNA. The it turns out that especially in the early year, part of the year, we may have been saved because in the industrial manufacturing process of this lipid nanoparticles, they do it in these giant vats. And it's almost impossible to get an an even distribution of the lipid nanoparticles throughout this area. So in some vials, you may have just got lipid nanoparticles with no mRNA in it.
• 50:21
  And conversely, at the bottom of the bat, you may have had people who've had a huge dose of mRNA. And maybe that's one of the things that so some people have been getting really severe adverse events as a result of having that larger dose. We found that out from, that's, some of our research with the with Naomi's group. We've managed to find out a lot of this information about the manufacturing side of it. But then there's the other side.
• 50:51
  We know that, naturally, it appears that certainly mRNA is supposed to be digested very, very quickly. They said it wasn't going to hang around, but it did. MRNA has been found in human tissues now two months later after a vaccine. We know that spike protein hangs around sometimes in more in one one person than another. So people people vary, and I think partly it's due to how healthy you are, you know, if you're a decent weight, you know, you exercise.
• 51:23
  One of the most important findings initially was the fact that if your vitamin d was high enough, even for those of us living in Florida who tend to be indoors most of the year because it's too hot to be out in the sun, we don't get enough vitamin d from the sun
• 51:39
  Seth Holehouse: because Funny, isn't it? The opposite.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, you've gotta take enough vitamin d, things like that, and and take vitamin c. There are other protocols like using n acetylcysteine, otherwise known as NAC, that you can take. But again, what I would encourage your listeners to do if they're interested is to search for the FLCCC protocol.
• 52:07
  And that's doctor McCulloch's work. And you'll be able to find all the information you need there to help you detox because, you know, that is really important. But then again, keep yourself healthy, and you you are more likely to survive than not to survive.
• 52:27
  Seth Holehouse: Well, that's a good that's a good point. I think also one of the things is be careful where you let your mind go, and this is a big one is and I saw, you know, when the died suddenly documentary came out recently, and I saw someone that post on it and said, look, if you've already got the taken the vaccine, don't watch this, because it's going to make your mind so worked up and so worried that you could cause your own death, just from your mind's reaction to that. And so I think that's a big one is just try to keep calm amidst it. You know, because I think that we can worry ourselves so much into creating an illness and into creating problems in our own bodies. I think that's an important point as well.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: Indeed. Indeed. Stay healthy.
• 53:06
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. Well, doctor Flowers, it's been such a pleasure to have you, and I this thank you for the work that you're doing. Is there any place that we can direct the audience to go find what you're working on or to follow what you're doing?
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, if you go to DailyClout.io, we actually have a whole section on our Pfizer reports. We've also been producing a lot of micro reports based on various side effects of the vaccine. And that is the the main area if you want to see our research. But just follow me on Geta.
• 53:40
  That's the main place I am, which is Chris Flowers, MD. And if you do that, you will see me posting every day. I get a lot of emails. I get a lot of messages through Geta with people who are who are suffering as a result of having taken the vaccine and wanting to know what can be done about it, what can they do to help themselves, and and people just asking questions. And and, you know, most of the time, have to turn around and say, you know, you're absolutely correct.
• 54:12
  And here is the data, and it's there in Pfizer's document. The main document that people, if they want if they want to get scared, is to read the five point three point six post marketing experience document that came out in March of this of this year. And we're still our teams are still working on this producing I'm producing videos, and we're producing reports as well. But just the sheer numbers of adverse events occurring in the first ninety days following the introduction of the vaccine, just ninety days, we had tens of thousands of severe adverse events. And when you think about that, compare that to the swine flu when there was only a couple of episodes of of serious adverse events, and they withdrew the vaccine immediately.
• 55:04
  The FDA had no compulsion but to remove the vaccine. And we need to push our representatives to investigate Fauci, investigate the origins of COVID? Yes. But we've got to stop a, we've to stop this medical fascist state that's beginning to, you know, beginning to develop. But we've also got to make sure these vaccines are taken off the childhood vaccination program.
• 55:32
  Yeah. These children should not be receiving most of these vaccines. That's all money making things should not occur. So, you know, there's a there's a lot of work that needs to be done in this new congress. And I hope I hope that they will actually do this work because it's much needed.
• 55:50
  Seth Holehouse: I I hope so as well. I know that your your governor down there, Rhonda Santis, is certainly pushing forward with some initiatives. So hopefully, those come to bear some some fruit that it, you brings some justice. So well, doctor Flowers, thank you again for coming, and you take care. Have a wonderful rest of your week, and we'll be in touch.
• 56:07
  Thank you.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: Thank you, sir. Thank you very much, sir.
• 56:09
  Seth Holehouse: Of course.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: K. Bye.
• 56:12
  Seth Holehouse: Okay. Alright. Well, thank you for that. It was it was a, yeah, a fantastic conversation. And I'm not sure when I'll this will go up within the next week or so.
• 56:22
  I'll have it I'll have it go up. I'll make sure I send it to your team so you have it as well.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: Great. Thank you very much.
• 56:27
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. It was a pleasure speaking with you. Thank you for the work that you're doing. Too.