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This Bitch Lyin · GAS MONEY

• 0:09
  SPEAKER_06: Welcome to another installment of Gas Money.
• 0:12
  SPEAKER_06: We got Red in the building.
• 0:13
  SPEAKER_06: Hey, hey, hey.
• 0:14
  SPEAKER_06: What's going on, everybody?
• 0:15
  SPEAKER_04: We got KOcho in the house.
• 0:17
  SPEAKER_07: Hi, everybody.
• 0:18
  SPEAKER_07: We also have Ace on the mic.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_01: What's happening, everybody?
• 0:22
  SPEAKER_01: We got Jose on the mic.
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_05: We also got AG on the mic.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_06: Thank you very much for bringing me into the show without any awkwardness this time.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_06: I really appreciate it.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_06: Are you sure it's not awkward?
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_06: No, it's not enough for me.
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, okay.
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_06: Thank you.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_06: Um, how was everybody's uh weekends uh and week weeks?
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_07: Blah.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_07: That's right.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_07: It's a blah weekend.
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_07: Nothing special.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, well, well, I'm I'm thirsty for a vacation soon.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_06: Um I was bornwashed.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_06: That's that's my excuse.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, okay.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_06: Good answer, good answer, good answer.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_06: You you have a proclamation to make?
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, okay.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_06: Um, I mean, there was a lot of stuff in the media's today about uh a young man named Christopher Brown.
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_06: You guys say Christopher.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_06: Is that his actual full name?
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_06: I would hope so.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I wouldn't want to name my kid Chris.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_06: It's a nickname.
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_07: I think it's Christopher.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_06: I mean Chris is a nickname.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_06: Unless you're Greek.
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, yeah.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_06: Or Puerto Rican Italian.
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_06: Same thing.
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_07: It could be Christian or yeah.
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_06: Crystal ball.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_06: Crystal ball, you know.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_06: Kristaki.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_06: All those all the Chris names.
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_06: Um, yeah, where do you guys want to begin?
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_06: Does anybody feel sorry for Christopher?
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_06: Well, give us a story.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_06: Somebody give us a story.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, so uh when was this?
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_04: Dur earlier this week, uh, Chris Brown was over in Paris, France.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_04: Where it was like last weekend.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_04: We where he was uh alleged well, he was accused of rape and he was detained, but uh later released after the There was like inconsistencies in the story.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_04: The alleged rape victim uh claimed that it was not him, it was that it was in fact a case of mistaken identity, and and therefore uh Chris Brown was released without being charged.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_07: Where did you where did you hear that?
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_07: Because I'm like, I I've been hearing conflicting stories because she's still going on with the with um I guess charging him because he said it wasn't physical uh pressure, it was more psychological pressure that she felt.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_07: But this was like stuff I was reading on like Baller Alert or Shade Room that she has a lawyer.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_07: So I don't know if it was mistaken identity.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_06: Did they fuck?
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_07: I I don't know.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_07: The story got dated.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_07: Because there was multiple there was like multiple people in the room.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_07: So I think one of the reasons they let her go was because like she didn't she didn't say anything to anybody that else that was in the room.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_07: Supposedly, so they're like, Why didn't you say anything?
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_04: Hmm.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_04: This seems fishy.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_04: No, they absolutely did.
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, they get that's what I heard.
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_05: Even if she has a loyal.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_07: No, no, no.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_07: It's not that they were dropped, there was no charges filed against him because there wasn't sufficient evidence.
• 3:04
  SPEAKER_06: So in that sense, like it seems like with no evidence?
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_06: That's well.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that's how basically that's basically that's how it works.
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_07: She goes to the she goes to the police and then they have to detain him and then Paris, France, so they can investigate.
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_06: You're until guilty until proven innocent.
• 3:23
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, same thing here.
• 3:24
  SPEAKER_07: It's how it's yeah, you're guilty until proven innocent.
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_04: If a girl goes to the cops and says that you raped her with no evidence, they will detain you.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_04: They will detain you.
• 3:33
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, then they have to figure it out after the fact.
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_06: It's they have to figure out I gotta speak to my local congressman because that's some bullshit.
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, absolutely.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_05: Until they figure out what the hell is really going on.
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_06: No, the law is fucked up, man.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_06: Being a man is is hard.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_05: It is.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_04: Especially all this me too shit.
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_04: It's real.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_04: Me three.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_04: Caitlin Jenner is fucking suing Bruce Jenner for touching himself 30 years ago.
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_04: It's crazy.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_04: Wow.
• 3:55
  SPEAKER_04: That was that was uh problematic.
• 4:00
  SPEAKER_04: Back to C Breezy.
• 4:01
  SPEAKER_04: Um so yes, um, I just thought that this whole thing was fishy because it happened like just after he signed that new deal to become the youngest artist to own his own masters, and then the next thing you know, he's arrested in Paris, France for rape.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, so this was a good thing.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_07: And he was also in Paris with his alleged girlfriend, Amika, Amika Harris.
• 4:22
  SPEAKER_07: So we're like all this happen with him.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_07: Exactly, the off-frank carucci.
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_04: The whole uh dance classes, so it's like so now the the funny well, I'm not gonna say the funny thing, but here we go now again, divided with the media, because with the whole R.
• 4:40
  SPEAKER_04: Kelly situation, it was always, it's oh, you need to listen to the victim.
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_04: You need to listen to the victim.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_04: So now this Chris Brown thing, and you have everyone like, nah, fuck that bitch.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_04: Nah, I'm I'm I'm with C Breezy until proven otherwise.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_05: It's yeah, it's a different situation because everybody's seen when Chris Brown just had the other situation on that side of town with the dirt bike where Shulu was like, Oh, he's harassing me this and dirt.
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_05: And he's just sitting on a dirt bike outside of a store.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_06: Why is it always with dirt bikes with you, nigga?
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_05: Because I love dirt bikes.
• 5:09
  SPEAKER_05: I love dirt bikes with you.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_05: But there's a whole video where the cops come and looking at the dirt bike.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_05: And this is in Paris, France, too?
• 5:15
  SPEAKER_05: I think it was in France.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_04: I actually did see that video, so I know what you're talking about.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_05: Looking at her like, woman, what is he doing?
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_07: Um it's just it's just dangerous because you don't want to invalidate the women that have actually gone through some shit, especially in the industry with the Me Too movement, whatever.
• 5:33
  SPEAKER_07: Like, some shit obviously went down with a lot of these producers because like they have they're in positions of power, and men who are in positions of power tend to abuse that, especially since you have younger women trying to come up.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_07: But then again, with this situation, you can't just believe everybody like in an instant.
• 5:49
  SPEAKER_07: Like you need a little more evidence sometimes.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_04: I think that there really needs to be uh you know, people who falsely falsely claim um, you know, rape and things of that nature, they really need to be severely punished for their actions.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_04: They do, they do, because that just harsh punishment.
• 6:07
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, lying is worse than they don't force them not to really try to degrade somebody's name.
• 6:11
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, but the the counter the counter-argument is that if there's a punishment for accusing someone of rape, some people that were actually raped are gonna be too scared to speak up because they feel like on top of this the social you know stigma of hey, you're a rape accuser and you didn't win, you're also gonna go to jail for a long time.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_06: So it's the people say that if we uh you know attribute How do you prove false accusations?
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_06: That's the problem, is that it's gonna it's there's a domino effect.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_06: I don't agree necessarily.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, well that's what that's why I think that each case needs to be examined intricately, and you know, these these types of allegations need to really be, you know, put on the table.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_05: Hot seat question.
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_05: You think if he never beat up Rihanna, he'd be going through all this?
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_04: Um, yeah.
• 6:57
  SPEAKER_04: Absolutely.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_04: He's black.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_05: So you think if he didn't beat up Rihanna, then he would still be accused of black.
• 7:05
  unknown: Okay.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_04: He's he's he's the goat of his generation.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, based on what?
• 7:09
  SPEAKER_04: Why don't you think so?
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_07: Because he has like that's sort of a little chink in his armor for beating up a woman.
• 7:13
  SPEAKER_07: So he did something a little fucked up.
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_04: What chink in uh Michael Jackson's armor?
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_04: Rihanna was beating his ass.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_04: Let's keep that.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_04: Let's keep that.
• 7:21
  SPEAKER_07: Listen, I don't I don't agree she's innocent either.
• 7:23
  SPEAKER_07: I don't agree she's innocent either.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_04: But he told me you bite someone in a fight, you are losing.
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_04: Nah, that's a fact.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_04: You don't bite people when you're winning in a fight.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so uh you fight with your mouth?
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_04: Is what you say?
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_04: He was losing.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_04: She sat on them keys, that girl was fucking that nigga up in that car.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_07: She's like, But I don't think he didn't have any marks.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_07: She did.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_07: Her whole face was her whole face was swollen.
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_07: So I don't remember seeing any marks on Chris after that fight.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_07: So obviously.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_06: Just to follow up your hot seat question.
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_06: So Michael Jackson, before the pedophile stuff, what was the chink in his armor?
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_05: I feel it.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_05: Skin bleaching.
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_05: It was that just the whole the way he acted.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know what you're talking about.
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_05: Like not everybody was used to be like, oh, Michael never had a childhood.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_05: That's a third.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_06: So it's like But then that's a chink in his armor?
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_05: But it it's not a chink.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_06: To me, that's that people would be uh more inclined to feel sorry for him.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_05: It's not a chink, but I I can see why that came up and maybe his was really true.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_05: But I feel like with Chris Brown, it's like just because you have that notch under your belt, not everybody's just gonna be like, okay, I can I could win one.
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_06: I disagree.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_06: I think once you're black and you're in the limelight, society at large is gonna just try to find the stuff.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, it's already it's already a negative stereotype that you can.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_06: There aren't too many names.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_04: Debatable.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_04: Debatable.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_04: There are uh there is something with being the biggest name in, you know, one of the biggest names in music right now, and you're in, you know, this foreign country, and you know, you have to be a a little more what's the word I'm looking for?
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_04: You have to be a little more selective with the company you keep and you know how you operate and move to steer clear of these situations.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_04: For real.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_05: Does anybody know if he moved there or he's not?
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_06: He was there for a music video.
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_07: A music video, I think.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_06: But I had a question.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_06: Um, do you think trouble follows Chris Brown or Chris Brown invites trouble?
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_04: I don't think I don't I honestly want to say that since the birth of his daughter, he's pretty much been like He's been chill.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_04: He's been chill.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_04: Um and I want to say that that probably, you know, was the best thing for him because you haven't really heard anything in the media about him.
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, besides like maybe issues with like his baby mom and just like custody stuff.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_07: Right, that's that's that's minute as far as like being in trying to get a lot of things.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, he hasn't done anything.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_04: Controversial shit, no.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_04: And shout shouts to Breezy, because uh he he definitely is uh getting the bag on this one with his black pyramid clothing line.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_04: He now has shirts, this bitch lion uh t-shirts with the Mona Lisa.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_04: You know, that's very old Black Pyramid?
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yes, yeah, that's his line.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_04: So, you know, definitely shouts to Breezy for that.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_05: The more I know, and I've been wearing Black Pyramid, not knowing Chris Brown owned it.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, Chris Brown's a very talented dude.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_06: I honestly think he might be like Don't wear that in Barbados.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, you can't?
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_05: I can't.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_05: Probably not.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_05: You can't not hand.
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_05: He beat Rihanna and whooped my eyes.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_06: Sure about that?
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, like Rihanna's like suing her dad.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_06: She's suing her pops and uncle.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_06: Over the Fenty shit.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_07: Well, because they created a whole fake business.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_04: It'd be your own nigga.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_07: It's not, it's not, she's not suing them over the use of the name.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_07: She's suing them because they pose as her agents.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, okay.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_07: And making fake deals and that.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_07: It's not because, hey, you use Fenty.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_07: She knows that's her dad, and she's tried to send them a whole bunch of cease and desist letters multiple times, telling them to stop, but it could fuck up deals with her in the future because all these people are giving them money for deals that aren't happening and concerts that aren't happening.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_07: So that's why she's suing him.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_07: Not for the use of the name.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_07: Because she ain't sharing the bad.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_06: That's what I was gonna say.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_06: Just to play devil's advocate, like, would your family really need to go through the extent of doing some shit like that?
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_06: You don't know what they're really doing.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_07: Greed is a motherfucker, and I can I can attest to that.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_07: Exactly.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_07: My mom is good.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_04: Like, I have some relatives, because I'm not gonna use the word family.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna use the word relatives, who are some greedy motherfuckers, and it doesn't matter how much they have, they always want more.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_07: Exactly.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_04: So you cannot say that.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_04: You cannot say that she can she could possibly be giving her father and uncle five million apiece a year for sitting on their ass, but guess what?
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_04: They're gonna want more.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_04: Let me give you an answer.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_05: Five million, right?
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_05: Cool.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_05: But what I'm just saying, I'm just giving, I'm just giving them.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_05: Like I said, plain devil's advocate, like AG said, is you can say you're giving them, let's say, five million for argument's sake, but w maybe five million to them is not a life changer to get them out of where they are.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_05: It is the same thing.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_05: They're in the battery.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_07: And then I think they're still in Barbados.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_07: Exactly.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_04: You mean to tell me that five million dollars annually couldn't get you out of Barbados, then you're fucking Barbados.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_05: You never know who you gotta split that money with.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_05: That's never my that's not her problem.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_05: Four million in debt, and you give me five million dollars.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_05: Why don't you have five million dollars?
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_07: But that's that's exactly the point.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_07: They could be doing some trifling shit.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_07: That's not her responsibility to always clean it up if she's giving them the support.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_07: They're fucking it up.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_07: I'm cleaning it.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_07: Listen, you know what?
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_07: We don't know so.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_07: Exactly.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_07: I believe no.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_07: To be honest, I believe Rihanna is a very compassionate person and and she does stuff for her island, you know, trying to bring business there.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_07: She has her own like stream named after her now, but I don't think she's one to abandon her people or her family.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_07: So I think he was actually doing some try him and whatever his name is.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_07: Nigga shit.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_07: Nigga shit.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_07: Exactly.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_07: So she tried multiple times to tell them to stop without pursuing the action.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_06: First of all, my name is Fenty, I'm getting everything.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_06: My name is Mom.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_06: The tops, nigga?
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_06: Her name's about to be Rihanna fucking Aslama bad in like three months.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_05: I'm suing.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_06: That's all I'm saying.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_06: He gave her the fuck that name.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_06: She's about to be Rihanna is Lama Bad in three months, and Fenty is.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_06: I'm always gonna be Fenty.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_06: Exactly.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_07: He can't he can't sue her for the name because he gave it to her.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_06: Um so let's uh let's talk about the other light-skinned nigga.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_06: Um the Jay, what Jay, what does the Jay stand for?
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_06: Jermaine.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_06: Jermaine, we're gonna talk about Jermaine Cole.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_06: Jermaine Cole.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_06: Jermaine Cole.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_06: I was talking what the Jay stand for.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_04: She has a Kendrick because he definitely gets like just Jermaine Cole.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_04: I was like, damn, he said the nigga government.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_06: Yes, best lyricist.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_06: Let's talk about uh who's the best lyricist?
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_06: Jermaine right now.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_05: Jermaine Cole.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, no, we can get into that, but why is he in the news right now?
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_06: For what?
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_05: For the new song that he just released called Middle Child, where he basically depicts of how he is under the older generation of music, which is like Jay-Z.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_05: He said he's between the two.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_05: So he's between the older and the numbers.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he's under the older bracket of like Jay-Z and J the kids and the numb, but he's over the younger generation of like the 6ix9ines and the Little Sky.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_05: Trippy Ranzy.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_04: You just had to fucking bring 6ix9ines name up, didn't he?
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_04: Oh my god.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_05: You feel me?
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_05: You had a white man named Daniel Hernandez.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_05: But not in the side.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_05: But he basically depicts a lot of these younger, like, like I said, 6ix9ines stuff like that.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_05: He he had a lot of people.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_05: In jail.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_05: He's talking about he talked about the name.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_06: Nigga had a whole album talking to these niggas already.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_05: Specifically.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_05: Pacific ocean.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_05: Specifically.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_05: I thought you meant the Pacific Ocean.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_05: Alright.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_05: Whatever.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_05: But he basically depicts of that.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_05: And I I believe it's a I well, not believe.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_05: My opinion is a great song.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_06: Alright, who has heard the song here?
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_07: I have, yeah.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_06: Red heard it.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_07: We were in the car when you listened to it.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_06: Ace said that Red heard it, by the way.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_06: Um Red Heard, I ain't listened to it.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_06: There's a two big difference between the two.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_06: People don't really realize that.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_06: There's a difference between hearing music and listening to the music.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_05: I listened to it because I even had to tell one of my friends when he was like, yo, I like the song.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_05: And I said to him, I was like, yo, you like the song for what you heard?
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_05: Or did you actually listen to the way he came at people low-key?
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_06: No, he didn't.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_06: He didn't.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_06: I heard he took shots at Kanye.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_06: I didn't listen to the Kanye.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_07: No, people were assuming he took shots at Kanye.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_07: He's gonna take a shot at Kanye.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_07: Because the whole point of the line was like that he's if he if he's gonna come at someone, it's gonna be legit.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_07: And then he was like, it's not gonna be for clout.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_07: It's not gonna be because Shay ain't selling the same, and it's not gonna be to promote my little sneakers or something.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_07: So he could.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_07: It's clearly a shot.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_07: He did bring that up.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_07: He did bring that up.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_05: No, it it why why everybody's saying it's not a shot is because it could go either Drake or Kanye.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_06: What sneakers is Drake or something?
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_05: Because everybody's saying the whole sneaker line that he tried the whole line of clothing and everything that he'd never been.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_07: No, but he just in the song he says that Drake gave him a watch, a gift like that.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_07: I don't think there's no way he'd be dissing Drake on the same song.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_06: He literally said y'all try to pit us against each other.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_06: I didn't even listen to the song.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_06: The only reason why people were saying that was.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_06: Because they're stupid.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_05: No, it's just the fact that he left an open bracket of saying clickbait.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_05: No, he said sneakers.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_05: He said sneakers.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_05: I heard the bar was sneakers.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_05: He said sneakers.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_07: He's not saying like my latest, yeah, my latest sneakers.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_07: I don't think it was to Drake at all.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_07: It wasn't to Drake at all.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_07: So let's fuck those people.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_06: Fuck those people.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_06: How about that?
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, no, that's that's a reach because he was just saying in the song that Drake gave him a watch.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_07: Like they're friends.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_06: So where does Jermaine Cole rank right now in hip hop?
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_05: To me?
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_06: Yes.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_06: I want to go around the room.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_05: Out of everybody, I'll say one.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_06: He's number one.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_06: So you have him ahead of Drake, Kendrick.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_06: Yes.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, cool.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_06: Uh Ace.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_06: We haven't heard you yet.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_06: The conspiracies are coming, brother.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_06: I got you.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_06: But where does Jermaine Cole rank in today's uh hip hop climate?
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_06: Of course.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_06: Rocking is still alive.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_06: You got Drake below the two of those guys.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_06: Cool, cool, interesting.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_06: Um KO show, where do where do you have uh I I agree with Ace's point.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_07: I have him tied with Kendrick just because like they out of all the rappers, like mind you again, I'm not a crazy rap enthusiast, but Kendrick and J.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_07: Cole, I actually listen to the lyrics that they're saying.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_07: Like with Drake, it's mostly because it's like, you know, it's catchy.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_07: Exactly.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_07: It's just stuff you want to listen to, maybe working out, whatever, but it's like it's not stuff that has so much substance to me.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_07: So that's why I feel like more intellectual substance is like Kendrick and Kendrick and uh J.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_07: Cole.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_01: That's that's what makes it a harder stuff.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, um red.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_06: What do you rank Mr.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_06: Jermaine Cole?
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_04: Um, don't crucify me, but I really don't listen to him like that.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_04: Um I've listened to I I listened to J.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_04: Cole when someone else is playing him.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_04: Um I guess Any reasons why?
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_04: Or just because he he just doesn't do it for me um as a rapper.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_04: Um like I've listened to uh a few of his albums.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_04: I've listened to things I guess off his mixtape or some shit like that.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_04: Like, you know, his when he first came out.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_04: I always felt that he had like an extreme amount of talent and always felt that he was talented, but to me there's just something about him that just doesn't get him over the hump as far as an artist for me.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_04: Um as far as an artist?
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_04: For me.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_04: No, no, no, not a lyric.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_04: No, he's an artist, and that's there's a reason he used that word.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, that's why I'm like clarifying, like not even an artist.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_07: An artist, no, no, like but then who does get over the hump?
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, this is good.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_06: This is a really good debate.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_04: I'm talking about like when when I look at J.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_04: Cole, to me, he just doesn't possess that same star presence as other mainstream artists.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_07: Oh no, for sure.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_07: So that's what I'm saying.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_07: But I think that's more hit that's more his style.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_07: He's not a person to be in the limelight.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_04: I understand that.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_04: You have people who are low-key, but you still when they step out somewhere, like you know that's them.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_04: Or like uh not to say that you don't know it's J.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_04: Cole, but he just doesn't have that star presence, in my opinion.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_04: Um but if I had to list him at like or place him as well I guess.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_04: No.
• 19:57
  unknown: I don't know.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_07: So uh I just think he's not into the fan.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_04: Um he's unranked for me.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_04: Um, like I said, it's not that I it's not that I don't listen, you know, don't like him or whatever.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_04: I don't I just don't listen to him that much.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_04: Like J.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_04: Cole's not someone who I would say throw that new J.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_04: Cole and like I it's just not cool.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_04: So J.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_06: Cole's unranked.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_06: Is anybody gonna ask me my opinion?
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_06: Like no, no, no.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_01: He has to give him number one.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_01: Number one between the three given.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_02: Drake.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_04: Between um no, Kendrick.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, interesting.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_01: Interesting.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_04: Um, AG.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, um What do you your opinion on Mr.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_06: Jermaine Cole?
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_06: I uh I um I agree with some of your sentiments about uh Jermaine.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_06: Um if I had to rank the three of them, as much as it hurts me to say, there's I don't think there's any concrete argument that you can make that Drake is not the number one rapper in hip-hop right now.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_06: I don't I don't think there's an argument that could really shift.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_07: No, but like maybe not number one, but who do you think is what I'm saying?
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_07: Like, don't take popularity and everybody else.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_07: I don't even listen to Drake's music.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_06: Like I can agree with like how he feels about J.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_06: Cole, like he doesn't really listen to his music.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_06: I have not, besides take care, I have not sat down and listened to a Drake project through and through.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_06: Because his music literally is a Drake project?
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, Drake's music does not do anything to me.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_06: It does not do nothing for me.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_06: But what about J.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_07: Cole or Kendrick?
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_06: I think J.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_06: Cole is quite frankly, he does he's kind of boring to me, honestly.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_06: Um, but he's he's a better rapper than Drake is absolutely right.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_06: Right.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_06: See, that's that's what I'm saying.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_06: Like that's my point.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_06: Take the popularity of it.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_06: This is the music business.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_06: I can't take the popularity out of it.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_06: This is the music.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_07: No, but it's like who do you think is the for me?
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_07: It's who do you think was the best Drake?
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_06: All right, so who do you think is the best rapper?
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_07: Exactly.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_07: Take away all those other factors.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_07: The music standing alone.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_06: Oh no, music wise, it's still Drake.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_06: Drake makes the best music out of the three.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_07: Who do you think is the best rapper?
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_06: The best rapper of the uh lyricist.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_06: I I can go back and forth between uh J.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_06: Cole and Kendrick all day, but I would give Kendrick the nod because he makes better music than J.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_06: Cole.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_04: I was gonna say I'm I'm gonna have to put Kendrick over J.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_04: Cole as far as ra uh lyricists.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_06: And the reason.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_06: To me, why Jake uh Kendrick doesn't beat um Drake is that Drake's music is just so far ahead of the two of them, in my opinion.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_06: I think he just makes a lot better on a pop music um platform.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, absolutely.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_06: But that's the sound of hip-hop today.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_06: But you know what?
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_04: Listen, that's that's the whole point that people really get into music.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_04: Like, I understand people get into music to express themselves and they want to do it with this, but like you can't tell no artist, rapper, singer, songstress, whatever you want to call them.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_04: There's you can't tell me nobody who's taking their music seriously wouldn't love to get a Grammy Award or wouldn't care for that type of recognition.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_04: I definitely agree with that.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_05: I hate Drake, by the way.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_05: As far as the three that's given, Drake is more, he could go into different branches of music.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_05: He's a better artist.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_05: That's that's what I mean by artist.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, this I'll give you that.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_05: But as far as lyrics-wise, I feel like J.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_05: Cole paints a bigger picture than it's like.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_07: Like, that's why I said there's more substance.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_06: Any other three than than than Kendrick?
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_06: Did you listen to um Damn?
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_06: And I listened to the whole damn.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_06: You think that uh Kendrick doesn't paint pictures?
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_06: No, I'm not saying he don't.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_07: He's saying Drake doesn't pay.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_05: I feel like J.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_05: Cole painted it.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_06: Damn is actually a bad argument for the picture painting.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_06: Did you listen to Section 80?
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_06: And you think songs on that uh mixtape or album, because some people have arguments about that, don't paint vivid pictures of life.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_05: But when it's like, okay, like the last tape that J.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_05: Cole painted.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_05: I prefer J.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_07: Cole's sound better than Kendrick's.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_07: I do prefer J.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_07: Cole's sasonically, yes.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_07: When J.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_05: Cole just came up with that tape and he was um talking to like the younger rappers or whatever, the same one we were just talking about, I forgot the name of it.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_05: KOD.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_05: KOD.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_05: I've every song listening going straight down, I was like, damn, like, he's really opening my eyes to see like what these younger rappers are doing and how it's not smart.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_05: With section 80, it was more so I would listen, but I couldn't listen to it straight through and get a straight image.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_06: I don't understand how, bro.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_06: I'm not from California, and that should put me in California.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_05: In the 90s, but I just couldn't like that's the difference between Kendrick and J.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_05: Cole.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_05: I could listen to a J.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_05: Cole album straight.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_05: Like I listened to Friday Night Lights straight for like I'll be like Okay, that's that's a preference now.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, I think that's fair.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_04: I can say, um Yeah, that's just him though, yeah.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_07: So he's giving his personality.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_04: Listening to Section 80 while actually riding down Rosecrans and Long Beach Boulevard in Compton, like you just had it different.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_04: It's like I'm just saying, you know, even before you know I I did that physically went there or whatever, but like to listen to it, it does paint a hell of a fucking uh mental picture.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_04: And to actually, like I said, um drive down you know these these main strips that are being spoken about in the music going to uh the Compton SWAT meet, which is no longer open by the way.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_04: So if you never got to experience what if you've never been there, you know, shame on you.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_04: It's like a cult just gave it as grind.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_05: Could you explain what the SWAT meet?
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_04: Um picture uh the Coliseum in Jamaica.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_04: That's pretty much what the SWAT meet looks like.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_04: That's what the Compton SWAT meet look like.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_05: So it was just like a basic outside mall?
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_04: Um, not outside.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_04: Um about in Jamaica, Jamaica Avenue.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_04: The Coliseum on the block.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_04: Like the inside the mall.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, okay, okay.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_05: So it's basically like they had a mall.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_05: So it's like you were saying like Queen Center Mall.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_05: It wasn't like nothing.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_04: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_04: I think it had a bigger cultural impact than Queens of the Mall.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_04: Do not disrespect the Compton SWAT meet.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_05: Um, I'm just saying it was just a mall.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_05: Or like they like certain stuff that's going on that don't usually go on in a mall.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_04: In a in a swap meet, bro, it's a bunch of t-shirts, dickies, jeans, sneakers, apparel, depending on what area in, yeah, like you're gonna get uh LA Raider shit.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_04: You're gonna get LA Dodger shit, you're gonna get individual vendors.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, like these are all like these are all, you know, pretty much everybody has their own little section or their own little store.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_04: So it's not as well.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_04: If you actually been in Jamaica, the Coliseum in Jamaica, it's just like that.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_05: I see why you say the Coliseum by you're talking about more like the basement of the co of the Coliseum.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, like with the jewel where they have the jewelry where it's like everybody in the It's like that, but it's also like the upstairs parts too, where you have the little partitions in between each other.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, I see what you're saying.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_04: I got I got pick I got pictures.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_04: I'll um I'll show you I see what you're saying.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_04: It's not but yes, continue your photographs.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_04: Like literally, it was everything like how the fucking music sounded.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_04: You know, being I was in the Lewis burger.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_04: I have pictures in the Lewis burger where uh Kendrick's uncle was shot and killed.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_04: Right there, right there on Rosecrans.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_04: You have to pay 25 cents to get into the bathroom.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_06: Why is that?
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you have to pay 25 cents to get to the bathroom.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_06: Why is that niggas get in the bathroom?
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_04: It's the hood, bro.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_04: That's right there.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_04: It was actually, let me see.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_04: Carl's, I'm sorry, not Carl's Lewis Burger, if I'm not mistaken, right there on Rose Crans, that's right by uh Ludis Park M O B.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_04: That's where that's the hood that Sug Knight had behind him.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_05: So now let me ask you a question.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_05: Is there somebody guarding that situation, like, for you to pay?
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_04: No, there's a uh I'm gonna show you a picture.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_04: There's literally a thing on the door, like you have to put the fuck in.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_05: No, but I'm saying, like, okay, like like let's say To open the door, you need to put a quote.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_05: Let's say something like that happens here, right?
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_05: And you go in and you're coming out.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_05: Can I just hold the door and go in?
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_05: Is there somebody like to stop me?
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_05: There's always a loophole.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_04: There's always a loophole, but I'm just saying that's just you know the way that it's just giving you context of that.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_05: No, no, no.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_05: I understand it.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_05: I'm saying nah, the reason why I ask, I'm saying he says right by the hood, so all these people like just be like You're focusing on the wrong thing right now, Trump.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_07: So like why are you trying to talk about the back?
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_04: Back to Kendrick.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so Kendrick, he has a way, uh, a better way with his words to me.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_06: Can I can I propose a question to you guys?
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_06: Um, what is No, I won't marry you, nigga.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_06: What is uh uh J.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_06: Cole's biggest record?
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_06: Shit.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_06: That shit with him and uh Miguel.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_06: And you said the one with him and Miguel?
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_06: If you believe me, I said I was in the Power Trip, I think.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_06: It is Power Trip, yeah.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_06: That sounds fire.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it could be.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_04: That that's off the top of the head, that's what I'm going with.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know because didn't he have um the same take on the street?
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_05: That's about yeah, yeah.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_05: He had workout.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_05: Nobody's perfect, workout.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_05: Nobody's perfect, like, aren't those bigger than the one we got?
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_05: I don't think so.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_06: Nigga, that had Miguel on there.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_06: What song we're missing?
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, what are you talking about?
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_06: Uh perfect, no, nobody's perfect.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, nobody's perfect.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_06: I don't think that was the big Logan.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_07: That song was a big song.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know what song that is.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_04: If I'm not mistaken, it was using that.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_04: Low key was an album cut.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_05: And that's what I'm saying, because I remember when Mr.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_05: Night's Watch came out, there was a song that had gone crazy off that game.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_05: Of his first album?
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_05: I don't remember exactly what song it was, but there was a song that came out right there.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_06: The reason I asked that is because I think that's what has him, in my opinion, third in the ranking, is because I can we can rattle off a few for Drake.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_06: We can rattle off a few for uh Kendrick.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_05: So what would you say is Kendrick's biggest song?
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_06: He has first of all he came out the gate with swimming pools.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_06: Like that song.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_06: Poetic justice, poetic Drake.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_06: Like he has a few of them.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_04: Um I feel like Loyalty, love with Rihanna.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_06: All my life I has to fight.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_06: Like Kendrick has a lot of things.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_06: Kendrick has Kendrick has a lot of shit, man.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_06: And Drake, we don't even have to talk about that.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_04: Not for nothing.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_04: How many Grammys does Kendrick have alone?
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, I don't know.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_06: I don't he I think he I think he has more than Jake Cole.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that's what I'm getting ready to say.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_06: I believe he has more than Drake too.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, maybe that's that's a that would be wow.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_06: That's a lot.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_05: By this, by by the web, since the internet never fails.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_06: The world why?
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_05: So so far is Power Trip, Crooked Smile.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_05: So we were right.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_05: No role models and letting us down.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, no role models and crooked smile.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_04: I can definitely see how those are.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_04: But you know what?
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_04: That shit of Sparks will fly with Janae.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_05: Grammys apparently.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_04: Ken 12?
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_04: How does Jermaine have?
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_05: Didn't he win for um for Black Panther?
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_05: No, that's this year.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_07: I think he won one for a performance too.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_06: The Black Panther shit uh is is from this year.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_04: Whatever it is, I don't think I don't I don't think Mr.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_04: Cole has 12.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_04: No, I don't think it's a good one.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_04: I don't even think Mr.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_06: Graham has 12.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_06: So this kind of Yeah, definitely not.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_06: This kind of hurts the argument of him being over.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_06: Lil Wayne don't even have 12.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_06: I think it's five.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_06: J.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_07: Cole has five.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_06: Really?
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_06: J.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_06: Cole has five Grammys?
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_07: Wow, yeah.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_07: No, Vice has five Grammy awards.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_06: Wow.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_06: I didn't know that.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_06: Grammy family.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_06: Shout out to Jermaine Cole.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_06: Um, but I would definitely put uh what he won for.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_05: I can't even think of that.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_04: Well, you don't really watch the Grammys have a lot of things.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_04: Who's the first rapper to win a uh Grammy?
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_04: Is it Will Smith?
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_04: Very good.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_06: I like Pip.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_06: What did he win with?
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_06: Uh I know what it's is a good Jiggy.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_04: Nah, it was it was him and DJ Jazzy Jeff.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, shout out Jazzy Jeff.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_04: Um I think I don't fucking know.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_04: Don't give me the speculation.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_05: Yo, he the fact that Jazzy Jeff is DJing is three Grammys?
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_05: Nigga, DJing is not rap.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_04: You can DJ for the rap.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_04: And Drake has Drake!
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_07: Drake might have three.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, he has 35 nominations, but I think he only has three Grammys.
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_04: So that lets you know who's the superior.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_05: Hold on, hold on.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_05: That's not what that is.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_05: Fuck the Grammys.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_05: So now here's the niche in your argument.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_05: You're saying that that um we could depict who's better right there.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_05: So now you can't.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_05: I can just move the goalbooks.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_07: The Grammys doesn't always be on it.
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_06: No, 6'9 beats Drake.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_00: How about it?
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_06: If he's 10 for 10, Drake is a million for a million, it'll be a good one.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_07: Um yeah, Jay-Z has 21, Kanye 21, MM 15, Kanye 12.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_04: Kanye is tied with Jay-Z for the amount of Grammys.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_04: Now, here's the thing.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_04: But here's the thing Kanye is also a producer.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_04: So he gets more?
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_04: So he got that's what I'm saying.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_04: That's why, you know, Jay-Z, I want to say, would got all of those just off rapping.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_07: Yep.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_04: Jay-Z is a goat.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_04: But Kanye is, I want to say, I don't is that, is that a that I think that's a good argument.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_04: Who's more who's more talented, the artist or the producer?
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_06: I honestly, if you would have asked me this question ten years ago, I would say the artist.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_06: But now there's so many niggas that are only relevant because of the way their music sounds.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_06: Let me just ask you, let me just ask you this quick.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_04: Let me just ask you this quick one.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_04: Just based off talent, Kanye or Jay-Z?
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_06: Talent.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_06: I really want to say Jay-Z, but it has to be Kanye.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_06: He does, he does more.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_06: Right.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_06: That's that.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_04: That's that's a great like argument that you know Jay-Z stands.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I'm a and I'm a Jay-Z Stan.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, they didn't clench their teeth when I asked you.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_06: I don't want to admit that, but I like if I'm being real.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_06: Kanye's my way is more talented, absolutely.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_05: So correction.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_05: Um, what you call it, nominated seven has none, J.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_05: Cole.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, so he has no Grammy.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_06: None.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_06: J.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_06: Cole hasn't.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_05: He got nominated seven.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_05: And this is from the Grammy Awards.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, I guess it was just nominations.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_05: But it says five Grammy Awards.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_05: No, no, no.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_05: This is just period.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_05: He only had seven nominations.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_05: Due to the 61st Grammy nominations and the 60th Grammy Awards, he only had he had zero wins, seven nominations.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_06: Kendrick is about to pick up some new uh Grammys this year, I promise you.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, Black Panther.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_06: That shit.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_06: This nigga has a movie soundtrack that is better than niggas albums.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I think it's nuts.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_04: I heard that one track.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_04: I listened to like one track off of that soundtrack, and it was the uh Oh yeah, they were it says nothing.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_04: Somebody with um I think with School Boy Q and 2C.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah, I know exactly what sounds.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_04: That was my shit.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_04: Nah, I'm yeah.
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_04: I think yo, Kendrick has the chance.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_04: Everybody gets at me because I say school boy's my favorite artist out of TDE.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, really?
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_04: I think I I think he's like the dopest.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_04: As far as personality.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, he has a really dope personality.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_04: Like, that's what I'm saying like I think like personality, and that and that's what gets me.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_04: That's what actually makes me like you as an artist.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_06: That's how rap used to be.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_04: I think School Boy Q is hands down one of the coolest motherfuckers in the rap game.
• 34:33
  unknown: Yeah.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_04: Shouts to Fig Street, Figaro, 52nd, LA, who visit.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I don't I don't know all the the politics, but I guess we can shout to myself.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I I gotta I I still haven't made the full West Coast trip.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_06: I got as far as Vegas.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_06: It's beautiful.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, my.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_06: Well, Vegas is only like four hours from uh Yeah, we were supposed to drive down there, but we uh we had uh that's like driving to Maryland.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_05: We had a wrench tossed at us.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it happens.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_06: It happens.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_06: Um so keeping on the the music tip.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_06: Um let's uh let's get to New York City.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_06: And we got uh I don't know these gentlemen's first names, so it kind of fucks up the game I've been playing.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_06: Uh we have Daniel Q.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_06: I don't know, I don't know what his real name is.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_06: Uh Don Q is uh is everybody familiar with Don Q in this room?
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_06: And this is kind of sad because we're in New York is where he's from.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_04: I I only know the name.
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_04: I for me, not really.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_04: I cannot give you a track, I can't give you one lyric, I can't give you a bar, nothing.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_00: I don't even know what I don't even know what he looks like.
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_06: If you listen to A Boogie, Don Q is the guy that usually raps on A Boogie songs.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_06: That's the best way I can describe it.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_04: Like the one-two punch.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_06: Uh yeah.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_06: I guess.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_06: Um guess it's it's in this set.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_06: Is he uh Ace asked the question?
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_05: Is he good?
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_05: He's more of a bar type person, more of like if I'm really gonna, you know, go on a beat.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, so Don Don Q or Charlie Clips.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_05: Don Q.
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_06: Uh they you can put them in.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_06: I think uh Charlie Clips.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_05: Well, it depends, on a beat or off beat.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_05: I'm just asking in general.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_05: Charlie Clips, Acapella?
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_06: You can literally say there's the same type of rapper.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, but I'm just saying, who would you choose?
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_05: I would choose Don Q unbeat, Charlie Clips, a cappella.
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_06: AG?
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_06: I would literally just say they are the same rapper.
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_06: Like, that's it.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_04: Like, I can't.
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_06: That was actually very good.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_06: Unbeat and a cappella would definitely be.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_04: Every time I say DNA, you suck your teeth at me.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_04: So I just wanted to say uh someone else, maybe, such as Charlie Clips.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I get I get your point.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_05: Like, that's but to me, that's a bad scenario because it's like a lot of these artists can't do what they do.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_05: You get what I'm saying?
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_05: Like, to do something a cappella is different than that.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's what I was gonna say.
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you uh were bringing that to the table, that would help me choose Kendrick over J.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_01: Cole if you wanted to do a cappella versus on beat.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_06: Y'all niggas is not playing no fucking a cappellas in your car we riding down, like if it's good enough.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_01: Battle rap is different to me.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_01: Because if you're listening to the rap mostly, you don't hear the music.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_04: Alright, so back to uh Don Q, please.
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, uh so to me, Don Q is like a bar type of person.
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_05: Um so right now he's going back and forth with Tory Lane's.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_06: Alright, so Tory Lane sent out a cease and desist to all you new rappers, all you old rappers.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_06: He said J.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_06: Cole don't want to smoke with him.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_06: He said Eminem could get the smoke.
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_06: He said Pushy D can get the smoke.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_06: No, no, no.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_06: Quote it correct.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_06: He told Eminem, I ain't Papa Doc, nigga.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_06: This ain't eight miles.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, there you go.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_06: See, I didn't even know I know it like that.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_06: And he just pretty much let everybody know that, yo, I'm here, and he thinks he's the best rapper currently.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_06: And a lot of people has, you know, sucked their teeth, but not many have stepped into the ring.
• 37:49
  SPEAKER_06: Some people just don't think they need to because it's fucking an RB nigga saying he's the best rapper.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_06: And the only person that has responded so far has been Don Q and J.R.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_06: Ryder.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_06: We're not gonna talk about J.R.
• 37:59
  SPEAKER_06: Ryder.
• 37:59
  SPEAKER_05: So the reason why Don Q has responded is because we're all f and we all know of Funk Flex's little freestyle, whatever.
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, yeah, absolutely.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_06: I know.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_05: Don Q goes on and Freestyle how long ago?
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_05: Maybe I'll say maybe a few years.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_05: You guys should check that out.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_06: Those of you that are not familiar with Don Q, that's a very good example of his lyricism.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_05: I got I got the video right here.
• 38:21
  SPEAKER_05: I'm not sure if I can play it.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_05: I'll I'll show it to y'all.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_05: But yeah, off the podcast.
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_05: He goes, Don Q goes on there with A-Boogie, like when A-Boogie first was coming out.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_05: Tory Lanez goes up there now, and everything Don Q said, Tory Lane said, and like just changed maybe one or two words.
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_05: So Don Q was like, yo, you're claiming you're the best, but you just stole my whole freestyle over the same beat on Hot 97.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_05: You went on hot 97 and did the same exactly.
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, this is not speculation.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_06: They literally have side-by-side video, and Tory Lanez is like literally like quoting Don Q's freestyle as his own.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_07: Why do people do that?
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_07: I think like there's no like record.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_06: But I don't know.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_06: The artist would say it's just like-mindedness.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_06: It's like we are in the same industry, going through the same shit, so we have similar stories.
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_05: That's what Melania did with Michelle Obama's speech.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's what they would say, you know.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_05: But this is what killed me.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_05: Killed?
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_07: That's wow.
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_05: Kilt with a teeth.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_07: Kilt.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_07: Kilt.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_05: Flex.
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_05: If you're listening, you're the biggest pussy I know.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_05: Which is I forgot who this is.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, you're saying flex is a big thing.
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, flex is the biggest pussy I know.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_07: I just hate his voice.
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_05: Drop a bomb.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_05: I forgot too many damn freestyle.
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_05: And he was sitting there, not everybody could do this, da da da.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_05: You gotta be great to come up here.
• 39:37
  unknown: Everybody.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_05: You watch Don Q do this, and then you watch Tory Lane do the same as that thing, and you're sitting there, oh bro, you think he remembers every bomb?
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_05: Bro, that was one of the things.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_01: I basically don't think he really even listens to half the life on there.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_05: But this is my thing.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_05: How can you talk shit and say certain shit?
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_05: People can't come do this, not everybody can rap, and da da da da.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_05: But then you have people on your platform doing the same shit, and you just sitting there like chilling, like hyping them up.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_05: And showing that he didn't know.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_04: He's only doing it for his Instagram.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_05: It makes you look like a fucking hypocrite.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_05: It makes you look like a bitch.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_05: Bigger bitch than your bitch.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_05: I'm just I'm using the word just to degrade him.
• 40:15
  SPEAKER_05: I'm not degrading a woman.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_05: So you gotta chill out.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, he said woman, shout him.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, like progress.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_04: We always gotta salute progress.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_04: But he still said artists is shit.
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_04: You win small battles, bro.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_05: It's just like seeing this, and in my opinion, if they go freestyle for freestyle, Don Q to me is gonna take it.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, so Don Q has already dropped a free a diss track.
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_06: And how do you how do you think?
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_04: Is that the one with the cover art of him holding Tori Eat Lane's ass over the water?
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_06: With a with a noose, which I didn't really like.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_05: And said, I'm not joiner.
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_06: That's the name of the song.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_06: I'm not joiner.
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_06: Wait, can we stop for a second?
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_06: Did Joina Lucas lose this battle?
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_06: No.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_06: Um, I really didn't listen to that.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_05: And in certain people's eyes, no, but in majority of the web, yes.
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, so and that's the reason.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_06: I think Tory Lane's is gonna beat Donkey as well.
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_06: Why?
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_06: Because he's the bigger star and he's going to make a better song.
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but this is the thing.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_05: You don't really have social media, and I have both of them on social media.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_05: So, like me following the beef.
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_06: You're also from New York.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, me following the beef right now.
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_06: All your followers are probably from New York.
• 41:26
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, me following the beef right now, me seeing where Tory Lane started.
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_05: And when I told you he was like Mr.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_05: 16 and all that, and I basically put a lot of people like, yo, he's gonna be good.
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_05: Um, just following it now, everybody is so far sided with Don Q because everybody see what Don Q can do.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, so uh like I'm saying, you have a very jaded perspective because your followers and the people you're following are majority from New York.
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_07: Like he's saying you can't be objective.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_06: I see what you're saying, like the world, but no the internet is going to take Tory Lance.
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_06: Imagine, Tory Lance hasn't dropped anything, so what are they comparing it to?
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_05: Well, everybody just comparing another fact of his old music and watching how he really beat because So they're comparing his old distracts to Don Q's new distracts.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_05: Do you think that's a fair comparison?
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_05: They went at what he did with Lucas.
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_05: To me, what he did with Lucas, it wasn't like he beat him by a landslide.
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, if you win by an inch, you won you won though.
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but it's like for somebody that I know for a fact that can out rap Jordan Lucas, and you didn't beat Joana Lucas by a landslide, it's like now you have a problem.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_05: And this is my thing.
• 42:31
  SPEAKER_05: You have something to Donkey had something to prove.
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_05: He's gonna want to sit there and be like, okay, just because everybody's saying I'm in a boogie shadow, or this, that, and third, or I could rap or whatever.
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he has something to prove.
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_05: So I feel like it's gonna be like he's gonna take it to the next level where I'm you know, I'm really gonna come for your neck.
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_06: I really wasn't impressed with the diss track.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_06: I I thought he was gonna do a much better job.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_06: And there was bars in there, there's punchlines, but my biggest critique of Don Q is he has one flow, really, and he's not like Red would say, I don't like he doesn't have any star power, like he doesn't have a presence, he doesn't have a personality, in my opinion.
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_06: Like, I don't see A Boogie's a star because number one, he makes debatably good quality music.
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_06: And on top of that, yeah, like I don't like his music, but on on top of that, he has this soave about him, he has star power that Don Q really doesn't possess.
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_06: And this is the rap business, this is rap music, you have to make music, and Tory Lane's is making great music, debatably.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_04: But this is also the show business.
• 43:31
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I agree with you.
• 43:32
  SPEAKER_05: Because I don't know if you guys are uh familiar with what's going on now, but with there's an Instagram live going around where every artist is has to check in.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_05: Like I there's a guy not shouting him out.
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_05: He started going on Instagram live.
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_05: He has I think it's like 23 million followers now, and like let's say something happened, like the whole situation with Casanova, somebody accusing a Casanova to stealing their name, Casanova gotta come check in and you know tell.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_05: What happened.
• 44:01
  SPEAKER_05: So with this situation now, they had a live, I think it was yesterday, and everybody on there was just like, yo, going left, right, it's like Don Q or Tory.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_05: And then you had one guy that came alive, he was just like, yo, I don't care what anybody said.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_05: I don't like Highbridge, but he had a better record.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_05: But I still toss the whole High Bridge off of High Bridge.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_05: And he was trying to basically get balls.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_05: And then somebody else from Highbridge came in and trying to get balls.
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_05: And it was just like, watching that is me watching hip-hop come to another level just because of social media.
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_05: And I feel like with that situation, it's gonna help Don Q more than it's gonna help Tori because Don Q is more so here.
• 44:41
  SPEAKER_05: So he's gonna have, I feel, more of New York behind him.
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_05: And as far as it comes down to, really and truly, it's gonna go now what he like what Tori did with Lucas.
• 44:51
  SPEAKER_05: He's gonna go probably go to Toronto, do a little concert, whatever.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_05: That way he may win.
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_06: But as Tory Lane is coast to coast, popular.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_06: But I'm just gonna cue his regional.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_06: He's not even big in New York, honestly.
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_04: Niggas get a new hairline and they don't know how to fucking act.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_07: For real.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_06: I'm like listen, yeah.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, yeah.
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_07: I just got that hair transplant.
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_04: I personally can't choose between the two.
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_04: As I said, I've never listened to either one.
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_04: Never listened to Tori Lanez.
• 45:18
  SPEAKER_04: I I've heard I've heard his music being played.
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_04: Um, I like I said, I think I just don't see the hype.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_04: I'm not sure.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_07: I thought he was like a rapper, because then I I I saw him like in a song and I'm like, wait, this nigga singing?
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_07: He started off as a because the way like he comes off is like a rapper.
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_07: I'm like, nigga, you say it.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_07: He was singing, nigga.
• 45:38
  SPEAKER_05: His name was Low Shooter.
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_05: It was Low Shooter and um He's from Toronto, by the way.
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_05: I forgot it was Low Shooter and another, and I forgot what he named himself.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_05: But they was like the two artists that were doing like parodies and rapping over, like, let's say somebody put out a beat with a song, they would rap over it and make their own and just put it out on YouTube.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_05: That's how him and this other guy started.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_05: Those were the two that was in the running.
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_05: Tory Lane then ended up surpassing that guy, and then he started doing the rapping.
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_05: But then I I think it was around controller, that's when he started doing that.
• 46:10
  SPEAKER_06: That's the first time I heard about this dude.
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_06: Was the controller shit.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_06: No, no, I'm outside of you telling me about him, because I'm I'll give you your props.
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_06: You told me, you tell me about a lot of rappers that never amount to anything.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_06: But the first the one time you were right was about Tory Lanez.
• 46:23
  SPEAKER_06: You told me about this guy.
• 46:24
  SPEAKER_06: But I didn't know yeah, okay.
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_06: That made it that nigga is nobody, I don't even know who made that song.
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_06: But it made it made it.
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_06: No, no, no.
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_06: That's not what I'm talking about.
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_06: Like Tory Lanez has a career, like he carved his uh carved a career out for himself.
• 46:34
  SPEAKER_06: But the reason why people look at Tory Lanez as an RB singer is because when he hit the scene, like when he made it, it was with the controller remix.
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_06: He beefed with Drake for a little while, and then he squashed the beef with Drake, and then you know it's always been like lukewarm between the two of them.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_06: But just to cap this whole uh situation, because uh pre like only me and Chubbs like kind of care about this.
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, and um I I think that uh I'm gonna just go with Tory Lanez.
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_06: We'll just see how this uh whole situation plays out.
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_06: But for the record, you're siding with Don Q.
• 47:02
  SPEAKER_05: Yes, I am siding with Don Q.
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_05: I hope I ever side with Don Q because I like I like them personally better for like bars, but Tory Lane's does give me some songs I can sit there and dance or sing to.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, um singing.
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_06: We're just gonna keep it on music.
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_05: Since since we're talking about you know music and what Tory Lanez was doing with uh with dance hall and segue from AG, okay.
• 47:27
  SPEAKER_05: Do you like that?
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_05: Do you feel I know you feel there's money in dance hall?
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_05: What separates the money gap from artists in all genres in the world?
• 47:36
  SPEAKER_05: Artists.
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_05: Artists in the world.
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_04: Even though you read artists off the fucking docket Jesus Christ.
• 47:43
  SPEAKER_05: As in, as the question is, as in why would an EDM DJ get paid more than a rapper or RB artist?
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_05: What defines the salary between genres?
• 47:52
  SPEAKER_06: Um that's a lot to unpack.
• 47:55
  SPEAKER_06: So can we start with the dancehall part?
• 47:57
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_05: So I had a argument with my younger cousin who's now uh uh up-and-coming rapper, and he's telling me the reason why he can never see himself really going into dancehall music since we're from the islands is the fact that he doesn't feel like there's money in it.
• 48:10
  SPEAKER_06: He's a hundred percent correct.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_05: And I asked him, like, why like why is that?
• 48:15
  SPEAKER_05: And we was having a discussion as far as when it comes to that, it's either gonna be you make a club hit or you make nothing.
• 48:21
  SPEAKER_05: As a rapper, I can make a club hit, or I can make a radio hit, or I can make a bar that somebody may like me for, or I could be like J.
• 48:28
  SPEAKER_05: Cole and just get like have my core followers.
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_05: And I also made the argument that a dancer artist can have the same thing.
• 48:34
  SPEAKER_05: Like somebody like Vives Cartel, he can have his own cult following, but he broke into the US.
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_05: And I feel like that's where the gap comes in.
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_06: How much you think is Vibes Cartel's net worth?
• 48:48
  SPEAKER_05: I'm I'm not sure.
• 48:50
  SPEAKER_05: I'm not sure we can look it up.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_06: Do you think Vibes Cartel gets paid a lot of money for his music in the US?
• 48:57
  SPEAKER_05: Not in the US.
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_05: But this is the argument when he said that what I broke down to when they do shows in like Europe and all these places, isn't that worth more than the US dollar?
• 49:06
  SPEAKER_07: Um It depends on the amount.
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_07: That doesn't mean it's worth more.
• 49:10
  SPEAKER_06: It's still uh, you know, it's still a dollar amount, like you're saying.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_06: Like if I'm gonna go do a uh show in Europe and they're only paying me a hundred thousand euros, and I do a show in New York and I get paid five hundred thousand.
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_06: What are you gonna choose?
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_05: This is my thing.
• 49:23
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 49:24
  SPEAKER_05: What I was bringing it down to, let's say here they give you five thousand for a show.
• 49:28
  SPEAKER_05: Five racks?
• 49:29
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 49:29
  SPEAKER_05: You need a okay.
• 49:30
  SPEAKER_05: I'm just saying, just for argument's sake, and over there they give you, let's say, 3,000 euros.
• 49:35
  SPEAKER_05: Wouldn't that still be more than the 5,000?
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_05: I don't think so.
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_06: I don't know, the money difference is not that big.
• 49:40
  SPEAKER_07: I think it's like the difference is like 1.3.
• 49:42
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it's not it's not as big as you think it is.
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_06: So I would take the I'll take the five racks.
• 49:45
  SPEAKER_07: No, I don't think it's 1.75.
• 49:47
  SPEAKER_07: I think it dropped.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_06: I'll take the five racks.
• 49:49
  SPEAKER_05: Because that that was my argument of if it's more, if it's worth more than the marginal difference.
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, see, it's even less.
• 49:54
  SPEAKER_07: It's 1.14.
• 49:55
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it's a marginal difference.
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_06: It's not like the US and Dominican dollars.
• 49:59
  SPEAKER_06: So it's like 15 cents more.
• 50:00
  SPEAKER_06: I said Dominican dollars.
• 50:01
  SPEAKER_06: No, I would just ask.
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_06: That was that was the whole thing.
• 50:04
  SPEAKER_05: Because my thing is, what do you feel henders somebody that get the bag?
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_05: Because it's like, in my eyes.
• 50:11
  SPEAKER_05: It's not worth his two million.
• 50:12
  SPEAKER_05: I feel like Vibes Viper.
• 50:14
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I feel like he's been in the music business for a long time.
• 50:17
  SPEAKER_06: And he's wondering two million dollars.
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_06: That's what I'm saying.
• 50:20
  SPEAKER_07: Like, it's because the audience, they don't have that, it's not as popular.
• 50:23
  SPEAKER_07: Like, yes, you have rap, but white people enjoy rap.
• 50:27
  SPEAKER_07: Spanish people, like this their audience is way bigger.
• 50:30
  SPEAKER_07: For for dance home music is a more specific audience.
• 50:33
  SPEAKER_07: Like, there are black people who do listen to it, but a majority is gonna be more Caribbean people that are listening to it.
• 50:39
  SPEAKER_06: There is more black people that don't listen to dance home music than listen to it.
• 50:42
  SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
• 50:43
  SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
• 50:43
  SPEAKER_05: My point.
• 50:44
  SPEAKER_05: We're gonna switch switch it from other talk.
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_07: So again, we are minorities in this country.
• 50:48
  SPEAKER_05: Me and him went into EDM.
• 50:53
  SPEAKER_07: They only have because of the popularity.
• 50:56
  SPEAKER_06: That's incorrect, number one.
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_06: Who's the biggest EDM DJ?
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_06: I'm not sure.
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_07: Probably Calvin Harris or something.
• 51:01
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, probably like Calvin Harris.
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_06: They get paid more to rap.
• 51:03
  SPEAKER_06: He gets paid more than Drake?
• 51:04
  SPEAKER_07: He get they get paid a shit ton of.
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_06: Why do they get paid more than Drake?
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_07: Because of their concerts.
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_07: I'm not sure.
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_06: If I had to bet my bottom dollar, then you might.
• 51:15
  SPEAKER_05: Like Alesso used to get, yo.
• 51:18
  SPEAKER_05: ED.
• 51:19
  SPEAKER_05: Especially like EDC and stuff like that.
• 51:21
  SPEAKER_05: They were getting a shit ton of things.
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, they get a lot.
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_05: And that was my thing.
• 51:25
  SPEAKER_05: Like, what separates them?
• 51:26
  SPEAKER_06: Look up their networks and compare it to somebody like Drake.
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_07: Because what's Drake doing?
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_06: Do you ever see these guys on the Forbes list?
• 51:32
  SPEAKER_06: Ever?
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 51:34
  SPEAKER_07: Let's see.
• 51:35
  SPEAKER_06: I I I hear the I see the Forbes list every yeah and I know.
• 51:38
  SPEAKER_07: 66 million is Calvin Harris in the past year.
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_07: Let me see.
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_05: Drake is a hundred million right now, right?
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_05: Oh my god.
• 51:51
  SPEAKER_01: No, I was asking about Ties though, because he's one of he should be one of the most grossing uh techno DJs.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_07: They do make a lot of money.
• 52:02
  SPEAKER_06: No, I'm not debating whether they make a lot of money or not.
• 52:06
  SPEAKER_06: Like we're gonna compare the peak to the peak.
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_06: We're not gonna compare Tiesto to fucking Why?
• 52:10
  SPEAKER_07: Calvin Harris' net worth is 220.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, that's a lot.
• 52:13
  SPEAKER_06: How long has he he been DJing?
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_07: Uh I don't know.
• 52:16
  SPEAKER_01: Check TST.
• 52:17
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think not that long.
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_01: Tiesto definitely has to have more than him.
• 52:21
  SPEAKER_01: Tell me.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_01: They make a shit ton of money.
• 52:24
  SPEAKER_07: They make more than a lot of these rappers, and he's kind of salary.
• 52:27
  SPEAKER_06: I agree with you, but I just want to talk about the peak.
• 52:31
  unknown: I forgot.
• 52:32
  SPEAKER_06: I just want to talk about the peak.
• 52:34
  SPEAKER_07: Because we haven't even compared the Tiesto 75 million.
• 52:38
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, we haven't even compared these guys to the richest rappers yet.
• 52:41
  SPEAKER_06: We just compared them to the hottest rapper right now, which is Drake.
• 52:44
  SPEAKER_06: Because the richest rappers don't compare.
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_07: The top rappers definitely make more than these.
• 52:49
  SPEAKER_05: And that's why we're saying.
• 52:51
  SPEAKER_05: But it's just that they said the top rappers as a who?
• 52:54
  SPEAKER_05: Definitely make more than well, you said how you said what you're doing.
• 52:57
  SPEAKER_05: Like Jay-Z Diddy.
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_05: Jay-Z?
• 52:59
  SPEAKER_05: You said what you go is 200 million.
• 53:01
  SPEAKER_07: 220 Calvin Harris.
• 53:03
  SPEAKER_07: And he's probably like one of the richest ones.
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, now we're gonna compare somebody Calvin Harris.
• 53:07
  SPEAKER_05: Because he's basically I say around the same time as Drake.
• 53:10
  SPEAKER_05: No, I don't I don't know that to be true.
• 53:11
  SPEAKER_05: I think Calvin Harris came out around that time.
• 53:13
  SPEAKER_05: I don't think he's older, like like um Jay-Z.
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_06: Nah, it's not about the age, it's about how long.
• 53:18
  SPEAKER_05: Because Jay-Z started rapping when he was 26.
• 53:20
  SPEAKER_05: No, I'm not talking about age rap, I'm talking about like the gap of being in the game.
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_05: I think TST was more in the game as like Jay-Z's level.
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_06: And he only has 200 mil, right?
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, 75.
• 53:29
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, he has 75.
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_01: Well, to Jay Z.
• 53:31
  SPEAKER_01: Jay Z's a billionaire.
• 53:33
  SPEAKER_01: He wasn't just a rapper.
• 53:34
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, but that's not Jay-Z's fault.
• 53:36
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, no.
• 53:37
  SPEAKER_01: But I'm saying if you want to uh upgrade the artist on their work, as far as Jay-Z for his rap content versus uh Tiesto for his music content, if there was a way to break that down, uh that's a better thing.
• 53:50
  SPEAKER_06: Sales would be the way to break it down.
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_06: And I know that Jay-Z is all sold those niggas too.
• 53:55
  SPEAKER_01: And record sales these DJs don't all have um uh get their money off of record sales, it's more than a lot of people.
• 54:00
  SPEAKER_06: Oh no, neither does rappers.
• 54:01
  SPEAKER_06: They get their money from endorsements, performance.
• 54:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but it's like that's why Beyonce is one of the richest women because she performs.
• 54:07
  SPEAKER_01: She tores like crazy fucking years straight.
• 54:09
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, okay.
• 54:10
  SPEAKER_06: And that's the point that I'm trying to prove.
• 54:11
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you're saying record sales, but somebody like Carol Harris, they're just shows.
• 54:14
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 54:14
  SPEAKER_05: And they're doing like these big shows.
• 54:16
  SPEAKER_07: No, he has records.
• 54:16
  SPEAKER_07: No, no, no.
• 54:17
  SPEAKER_05: They have to have records.
• 54:18
  SPEAKER_05: What the fuck are they performing?
• 54:20
  SPEAKER_05: Like, like Ace was saying, it's not more so focused on like record sales.
• 54:26
  SPEAKER_05: You get Okay, the point you're trying to uh argue is why do why why do they get paid?
• 54:31
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, like for performance, yeah.
• 54:32
  SPEAKER_05: Why is the gap so big for like depending on the genre?
• 54:37
  SPEAKER_05: Because somebody like it, let's say rock and roll.
• 54:39
  SPEAKER_07: The audience, Chubbs, that's all it is.
• 54:41
  SPEAKER_07: The audience, how many people, how many fans they have.
• 54:44
  SPEAKER_07: That's it.
• 54:44
  SPEAKER_07: That's white power, man.
• 54:45
  SPEAKER_07: Exactly.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_07: White people are the majority of this country, and that's who follows the majority of these people.
• 54:50
  SPEAKER_06: White power, that's the answer.
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_06: White power.
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, like that's all it is.
• 54:53
  SPEAKER_07: Make America greatly.
• 54:54
  SPEAKER_07: It's the following.
• 54:55
  SPEAKER_06: They actually purchase the most music in our genre too.
• 54:58
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 54:58
  SPEAKER_07: So the reason Drake's on top.
• 55:00
  SPEAKER_06: Well, they're the reason that any rapper's on top, to be honest with you.
• 55:04
  SPEAKER_06: They're the ones that go to the shows, you know.
• 55:06
  SPEAKER_06: White people, if you're looking at the city.
• 55:07
  SPEAKER_06: They're the ones who actually buy the music.
• 55:09
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, they buy the music for real.
• 55:11
  SPEAKER_06: That's that's pretty much the big difference.
• 55:13
  SPEAKER_06: And they can relate to Tiesto and Calvin Harris more than they can relate to Cheesy.
• 55:18
  SPEAKER_06: But at the tippity tippity top, it's still a rapper who makes more money than these people.
• 55:23
  SPEAKER_06: And that's that's my big that's my argument.
• 55:26
  SPEAKER_07: But yes, they do make a shit ton of money than a lot of rappers, but they the top rappers make more than them.
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, well, the top rappers are also involved in many.
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_04: In other businesses, yes, exactly.
• 55:42
  SPEAKER_06: That's that's the Well, nobody can hear what Ace is saying.
• 55:48
  SPEAKER_01: Somebody get this You said it now.
• 55:49
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just saying stop discrediting the DJs.
• 55:52
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not don't take it.
• 55:53
  SPEAKER_01: You're just going back there and pressing hitting the button.
• 55:55
  SPEAKER_05: Have you ever been to one of their shows?
• 55:56
  SPEAKER_05: No, I've watched them.
• 55:57
  SPEAKER_05: You watch them where?
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_05: Nigga, why does that matter where you watch them?
• 56:02
  SPEAKER_05: If you see if YouTube doesn't show right about it, it does.
• 56:06
  SPEAKER_04: Listen, just because what you see in the fucking lounges at night with these DJs and shit.
• 56:10
  SPEAKER_05: No.
• 56:11
  SPEAKER_05: I've been to like EZU and EDC.
• 56:13
  SPEAKER_05: He was all meth, by the way.
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_05: These DJs would play and then you're jumping in front of the stage.
• 56:17
  SPEAKER_05: Who's still playing music?
• 56:18
  SPEAKER_05: Alright, so who's still playing the side?
• 56:20
  SPEAKER_05: That doesn't change.
• 56:21
  SPEAKER_05: It doesn't change the biggest.
• 56:22
  SPEAKER_01: That's still contact that they came up with and had to record make their own songs saying that they didn't have to play.
• 56:27
  SPEAKER_05: That's what you're saying.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_05: So let me ask you something.
• 56:30
  SPEAKER_04: So let me ask you something.
• 56:31
  SPEAKER_04: As a DJ.
• 56:32
  SPEAKER_04: In my free time, if I come up with all these different mixes and I save them, and when I get to a fucking venue to put to actually uh spin, and I choose to freaking put my shit on autopilot, was that still not content that I created?
• 56:49
  SPEAKER_05: I'm not saying it's not created.
• 56:50
  SPEAKER_05: Yes or no?
• 56:51
  SPEAKER_05: That's it.
• 56:51
  SPEAKER_05: That's not my whole argument.
• 56:52
  SPEAKER_04: So now here's the thing.
• 56:54
  SPEAKER_04: If someone chooses to do that for a moment, jump in the crowd or whatever the case, but they still end up getting back on the freaking the boards and doing what they do.
• 57:03
  SPEAKER_05: You know why?
• 57:04
  SPEAKER_05: You know why I said this is hitting a button?
• 57:06
  SPEAKER_05: Because somebody like A-Rab Music does everything right there.
• 57:09
  SPEAKER_07: Not all of them hit a button, though.
• 57:11
  SPEAKER_07: Some of them actively do mixes while they're performing.
• 57:18
  SPEAKER_06: I don't think he's a DJ.
• 57:19
  SPEAKER_05: He's considered a producer and a DJ.
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_05: Alright.
• 57:22
  SPEAKER_05: And I would prefer somebody like that.
• 57:23
  SPEAKER_05: That does the beat and everything right in front of my phone.
• 57:26
  SPEAKER_07: But that's but that doesn't mean they're not putting in work.
• 57:28
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 57:28
  SPEAKER_07: I'm not saying that.
• 57:29
  SPEAKER_07: Because obviously, if they have content and people like that content, they're purchasing tickets, you can't fault them for selling shit.
• 57:36
  SPEAKER_07: Like I'm not for.
• 57:37
  SPEAKER_05: I'm just saying I've seen a lot of them push buttons.
• 57:40
  SPEAKER_05: But they still make the mixes.
• 57:41
  SPEAKER_05: That's the whole point.
• 57:43
  SPEAKER_07: These are pre-recorded tracks, but they still did the work.
• 57:47
  SPEAKER_06: Fuck these E DM guys.
• 57:48
  SPEAKER_06: Um so um I want to talk about this last music topic.
• 57:52
  SPEAKER_06: I'm pretty sure it is our last music topic.
• 57:54
  SPEAKER_06: Um, it's the game.
• 57:56
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, it did.
• 57:57
  SPEAKER_06: And recently.
• 57:58
  SPEAKER_06: So he's on another level right now.
• 58:00
  SPEAKER_06: He showed a snippet of a track, and in the track, he's talking about doing some sexually uh explicit, very aggressive stuff.
• 58:11
  SPEAKER_06: Very aggressive.
• 58:12
  SPEAKER_06: Uh Miss uh Kim Kardashian West.
• 58:14
  SPEAKER_06: Huh?
• 58:15
  SPEAKER_06: And I just think it's a little uh distasteful on uh many levels.
• 58:21
  SPEAKER_06: Um one, he's pretty close with Kanye.
• 58:25
  SPEAKER_06: Well, at least from what he portrays, even on the in the little snippet, at the end of the disrespectful stuff he says, he's like, I should apologize to Ye for this, or some shit like that.
• 58:36
  SPEAKER_06: So I just feel like the game, to me, he's always been kind of a cornball, honestly, to be honest with y'all.
• 58:41
  SPEAKER_06: Um, and this is just like reconfirming how I felt feel about the dude.
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_01: The man shooting his shot.
• 58:47
  SPEAKER_01: He knows Kim's gonna hear this eventually.
• 58:49
  SPEAKER_01: He's like, yo, if you fuck Drake, why not?
• 58:51
  SPEAKER_06: Nah, but they had a relationship.
• 58:53
  SPEAKER_06: That's the thing.
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_06: They were connected to each other, and he's mentioned this like at every juncture he can find for some reason.
• 58:59
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that was the uh third Kardashian, and he never said who he fucked on the Wendy show.
• 59:04
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 59:05
  SPEAKER_07: So I So he fought Courtney, Kim, and Chloe.
• 59:09
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so that's what he's saying.
• 59:12
  SPEAKER_04: So I just feel like the timing is just so poor.
• 59:15
  SPEAKER_04: When he was on uh when he was on the Wendy show, it he pretty much confirmed uh fucking Chloe and uh Courtney.
• 59:26
  SPEAKER_05: Did they deny it?
• 59:28
  SPEAKER_04: No.
• 59:28
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, unless he considered Black China Kardashian, but she wasn't married yet.
• 59:34
  SPEAKER_04: I think that was before.
• 59:35
  SPEAKER_07: Weren't they engaged at that point?
• 59:36
  SPEAKER_04: And he claims that he used to make her frosted flakes or cereal in the morning.
• 59:40
  SPEAKER_04: And if you actually go back on her page, she has a bowl of cereal in it from like 2013, it's a 2013 post, and it says something about oh he keeps me fed right or some shit like that.
• 59:50
  SPEAKER_04: Oh shit.
• 59:51
  SPEAKER_04: So there it like there is some sort of uh you know, and and he always was with um he always was with the Kardashian.
• 59:59
  SPEAKER_04: He was part of their like little little and then I was I was also I was also gonna say one thing that you have to realize that's all the same fucking neighborhood.
• 1:00:08
  SPEAKER_04: Game lives out there too.
• 1:00:09
  SPEAKER_04: Let me ask you a question.
• 1:00:10
  SPEAKER_04: Game has a spot in that fucking neighborhood too.
• 1:00:12
  SPEAKER_04: So like Hidden Hills or whatever the hell I think really goes down saying in the Calabasas area with the Kardashians and Drake and Kanye and Game and so forth and so on, it is a community that we don't know about.
• 1:00:27
  SPEAKER_05: For real.
• 1:00:27
  SPEAKER_05: You think they just had one big OG party he caught all of them in with it?
• 1:00:30
  SPEAKER_04: Bro, it's holly weird.
• 1:00:31
  SPEAKER_04: Anything's possible.
• 1:00:32
  SPEAKER_06: I think the game is corny, bro.
• 1:00:33
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, is speaking of someone's wife acceptable?
• 1:00:36
  SPEAKER_06: Like, is that uh we had a point in the society that that's like cool?
• 1:00:40
  SPEAKER_07: Well, I thought this was a rap kit.
• 1:00:41
  SPEAKER_07: I thought there were rules for this shit.
• 1:00:44
  SPEAKER_07: I thought there were rules.
• 1:00:45
  SPEAKER_07: What's up with that?
• 1:00:47
  SPEAKER_04: Everyone else is doing it.
• 1:00:48
  SPEAKER_04: Everyone else is coming at Kanye.
• 1:00:50
  SPEAKER_07: For real.
• 1:00:51
  SPEAKER_01: So that so that makes it even Kanye's coming at his own wife.
• 1:00:54
  SPEAKER_01: You're such a fucking hoe.
• 1:00:55
  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
• 1:00:57
  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't have to be a good one.
• 1:00:59
  SPEAKER_01: But the thing is, you you publicly have a wife who is a public figure as well.
• 1:01:03
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 1:01:03
  SPEAKER_05: And who is basically being criticized as being a hoe.
• 1:01:07
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, very per provocative, you know.
• 1:01:09
  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
• 1:01:09
  SPEAKER_07: Campaign.
• 1:01:10
  SPEAKER_04: She's catapulted to the top through sexual acts.
• 1:01:13
  SPEAKER_04: That makes you a hoe?
• 1:01:14
  SPEAKER_01: And publicly, yeah.
• 1:01:16
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 1:01:16
  SPEAKER_01: In the public side.
• 1:01:17
  SPEAKER_01: So we're we're cool with uh she sold her sex tape.
• 1:01:20
  SPEAKER_01: In the words of my man.
• 1:01:22
  SPEAKER_01: We're not attacking her.
• 1:01:23
  SPEAKER_01: How in the words.
• 1:01:24
  SPEAKER_06: No, I'm asking what is the what the game did is acceptable.
• 1:01:27
  SPEAKER_05: In the words of my man Webby.
• 1:01:30
  SPEAKER_05: Who is that?
• 1:01:31
  SPEAKER_05: I ain't speaking to nobody's wife.
• 1:01:33
  SPEAKER_05: I ain't gonna say I'm not gonna fuck though.
• 1:01:35
  SPEAKER_05: Simple as that.
• 1:01:37
  SPEAKER_05: Damn, you just did Webby.
• 1:01:38
  SPEAKER_06: Get off the mic.
• 1:01:39
  SPEAKER_06: He didn't say the fuck part.
• 1:01:40
  SPEAKER_06: He just said I wouldn't speak on nobody's wife.
• 1:01:42
  SPEAKER_06: And he made it just to say, no, fuck.
• 1:01:44
  SPEAKER_06: No, he didn't.
• 1:01:44
  SPEAKER_06: I watched that same interview.
• 1:01:45
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 1:01:46
  SPEAKER_06: I just let me have my mind.
• 1:01:47
  SPEAKER_07: I don't like the the tracker.
• 1:01:50
  SPEAKER_07: I don't like that he put it on there.
• 1:01:51
  SPEAKER_07: I'm like, come on, you have a daughter.
• 1:01:52
  SPEAKER_07: You have daughters, right?
• 1:01:54
  SPEAKER_06: So it's like the game lost the beef to young thug about it.
• 1:01:56
  SPEAKER_06: It's like chill.
• 1:01:57
  SPEAKER_06: I'm just gonna put that out there.
• 1:01:58
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, I remember that.
• 1:01:59
  SPEAKER_06: He 100% lost that, which is sad.
• 1:02:01
  SPEAKER_06: Like I said, sex house, he needs a bag.
• 1:02:04
  SPEAKER_06: But it's not it's not corny.
• 1:02:09
  SPEAKER_07: It is corny, especially if you said that he's friends with Kanye, because it's like, what's your motive?
• 1:02:13
  SPEAKER_01: He's trying to follow after his manager.
• 1:02:14
  SPEAKER_01: Unless he has a falling out in uh a uh paid troll.
• 1:02:18
  SPEAKER_01: That's all.
• 1:02:19
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, I just wanted to hear the panel's opinion on that.
• 1:02:22
  SPEAKER_06: Because I've really the game, like we used to play this drinking game when the red album came out, ironically.
• 1:02:27
  SPEAKER_06: And um every time the game name drops somebody, you had to take a shot.
• 1:02:31
  SPEAKER_06: And I'm telling you right now, listen to that album and you will die from alcohol poisoning.
• 1:02:36
  SPEAKER_04: That nigga can't make a he can't make a verse without mentioning somebody's.
• 1:02:39
  SPEAKER_04: I was just saying that's that's not necessarily new to his style because he's been doing that since day one, so consistency.
• 1:02:47
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I just it's I just think it's a crutch.
• 1:02:49
  SPEAKER_06: It's like, well, why do we have to do that?
• 1:02:51
  SPEAKER_07: To get more publicity.
• 1:02:52
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, like that's kind of corny to me.
• 1:02:53
  SPEAKER_06: But the game has to be fair, the game has always been corny to me.
• 1:02:56
  SPEAKER_06: That's just how it's been.
• 1:02:57
  SPEAKER_05: Alright, so I guess we're your favorite rapper one time?
• 1:03:00
  SPEAKER_05: The game?
• 1:03:03
  SPEAKER_05: Like the game was his favorite.
• 1:03:04
  SPEAKER_05: No, I'm saying I could have felt like at one point he was one of your favorites.
• 1:03:07
  SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
• 1:03:07
  SPEAKER_06: No, I think the game honestly is one of the most talented rappers we've had in a very long time, but I just think he's wasted talent.
• 1:03:14
  SPEAKER_06: Like he prefers to do corny shit.
• 1:03:15
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, in terms of his behavior than just rap like well.
• 1:03:18
  SPEAKER_06: Because he can rap well.
• 1:03:19
  SPEAKER_04: I was gonna say, as far as his rapping ability, he definitely has rapping ability.
• 1:03:23
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, absolutely.
• 1:03:24
  SPEAKER_04: Um, you know, his I guess delivery with a lot of shit is what rubs people the wrong way.
• 1:03:32
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:03:33
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it's just a lot of corn flowing off him.
• 1:03:35
  SPEAKER_06: Alright, so I think we're through with all of our uh music shit.
• 1:03:39
  SPEAKER_06: So what do you what do you guys want to swear?
• 1:03:41
  SPEAKER_06: We could talk about, you know, the government shutdown shit in LaGuardia.
• 1:03:44
  SPEAKER_06: I think that's a that's a cool little segue.
• 1:03:46
  SPEAKER_06: Just talk about something cool.
• 1:03:48
  SPEAKER_04: Let us know what happened, right?
• 1:03:49
  SPEAKER_04: Uh so what m what day was this?
• 1:03:52
  SPEAKER_04: Wednesday.
• 1:03:54
  SPEAKER_04: This past Wednesday.
• 1:03:56
  SPEAKER_04: Uh air airplanes flying into LaGuardia airport were halted due to a shortage of air traffic controllers.
• 1:04:07
  SPEAKER_04: So where did they actually point back to the government shutdown?
• 1:04:13
  SPEAKER_04: They were calling out, you know, people can't make it to work, you know, people just don't have the funds, you know, to put gas in the car and shit like that to get to work.
• 1:04:19
  SPEAKER_04: You know, people are tired, they're not, you know, you you motherfuckers ain't paying us.
• 1:04:23
  SPEAKER_04: Or they get another job.
• 1:04:24
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 1:04:25
  SPEAKER_04: Right, exactly.
• 1:04:26
  SPEAKER_07: They'll get another temporary job.
• 1:04:27
  SPEAKER_04: Um, so yeah, I believe they probably were rerouted to JFK or something to that effect.
• 1:04:31
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, because I know there were there were delays, yeah.
• 1:04:33
  SPEAKER_04: Right, they were crazy delays.
• 1:04:34
  SPEAKER_04: So you figure air traffic controllers, TSA agents, your whole flying experience could possibly be a fucking nightmare due to the Cheeto in office.
• 1:04:47
  SPEAKER_07: For real.
• 1:04:48
  SPEAKER_06: Did y'all see the picture of the kid working TSB?
• 1:04:53
  SPEAKER_07: It was like a little throat piece.
• 1:04:54
  SPEAKER_06: I thought that shit was fake as fuck, but that shit was lit.
• 1:04:57
  SPEAKER_07: He wasn't in a little uniform anything, helping his dad probably.
• 1:05:01
  SPEAKER_06: That shit was nuts, man.
• 1:05:02
  SPEAKER_05: I'm like, what the fuck?
• 1:05:05
  SPEAKER_05: The backstory of it, because I had looked it up, was that that airport was short staffed.
• 1:05:11
  SPEAKER_05: Well, they all are.
• 1:05:12
  SPEAKER_05: So they allowed So that kid ain't short?
• 1:05:14
  SPEAKER_04: He was short as fuck.
• 1:05:15
  SPEAKER_04: That's true.
• 1:05:16
  SPEAKER_05: But they basically allowed the workers that came in to bring someone to help as a temporary job for like a temporary day, whatever the case is.
• 1:05:24
  SPEAKER_05: It was like a temporary job.
• 1:05:25
  SPEAKER_06: So child labor laws don't.
• 1:05:27
  SPEAKER_07: Nah, tech technically they can't, they're not allowed to hire the kid, but it was like a volunteer.
• 1:05:33
  SPEAKER_07: He can volunteer.
• 1:05:34
  SPEAKER_06: My son had the gloves, the walkie, the white shirt.
• 1:05:36
  SPEAKER_07: Everything.
• 1:05:37
  SPEAKER_06: He had the whole little uniform.
• 1:05:40
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:05:41
  SPEAKER_05: So that I was like, so this is what we're doing now?
• 1:05:44
  SPEAKER_06: I was selling drugs in this moment.
• 1:05:48
  SPEAKER_06: I'm flying all my shit through right now.
• 1:05:51
  SPEAKER_06: Cause these niggas don't know what's going on.
• 1:05:54
  SPEAKER_06: We flew during this situation, so we know what's going on.
• 1:05:58
  SPEAKER_06: So I'm not gonna.
• 1:06:00
  SPEAKER_06: Name no names, but yeah, yeah.
• 1:06:02
  SPEAKER_06: People be like, yo, I'm getting my shit through.
• 1:06:05
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:06:06
  SPEAKER_06: Like I ain't getting paid, go ahead.
• 1:06:07
  SPEAKER_07: So exactly that.
• 1:06:09
  SPEAKER_07: I saw this video of some guy who was just like his hands were hovering over people, and it's like, yo.
• 1:06:16
  SPEAKER_04: So be careful.
• 1:06:18
  SPEAKER_04: Um shortly after that is when uh 45 announced that he was going to reopen the government for three weeks.
• 1:06:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:06:28
  SPEAKER_04: So I I I definitely think that once New York was affected, it was like, hold on, wait a minute.
• 1:06:34
  SPEAKER_04: We gotta do something.
• 1:06:36
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, some of the some Trump supporters aren't happy with that because they're seeing it as Trump caved into Nancy Pelosi, um, who's the Speaker of the House.
• 1:06:46
  SPEAKER_04: Trump's gonna cave in eventually.
• 1:06:48
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, but he's like, if I don't get my money in three weeks, he's gonna declare one of national.
• 1:06:54
  SPEAKER_06: I'm sure A's got a conspiracy as well.
• 1:06:57
  SPEAKER_04: And shout outs to the fact that uh his his boy was uh was arrested by the FBI.
• 1:07:03
  SPEAKER_05: That's my conspiracy.
• 1:07:04
  SPEAKER_05: No, mine is even deeper than that.
• 1:07:06
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, go ahead.
• 1:07:06
  SPEAKER_05: I feel like Trump owes either a lot of people or somebody a shit ton of money, and the reason why he's doing this is to get the money to repay everybody because he realized the Fed is on his ass.
• 1:07:19
  SPEAKER_05: Um this is my thing.
• 1:07:22
  SPEAKER_01: Just just don't finish.
• 1:07:23
  SPEAKER_01: That doesn't work because the people still have to get paid.
• 1:07:26
  SPEAKER_01: They're just not getting paid yet.
• 1:07:27
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 1:07:28
  SPEAKER_05: I'm not talking about the people.
• 1:07:29
  SPEAKER_05: I'm I feel like the reason why he's begging these people to get money for the wall is because he owes people money.
• 1:07:34
  SPEAKER_05: So he's not really to pay off his debt.
• 1:07:39
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, that's right.
• 1:07:40
  SPEAKER_01: Like I said before, it it's about uh creating debt and putting people under paychecks.
• 1:07:45
  SPEAKER_01: So if he has somebody that he made deals with that uh he's supposed to employ for some sort of construction works or 10-year lease on a build of a wall, maybe you could be right.
• 1:07:58
  SPEAKER_01: I can see where you're coming.
• 1:07:58
  SPEAKER_01: Because this is my thing.
• 1:08:00
  SPEAKER_01: Wait, you have any any leads?
• 1:08:02
  SPEAKER_05: Any directions?
• 1:08:03
  SPEAKER_05: They offered him a certain amount, right?
• 1:08:06
  SPEAKER_05: He denied that amount, saying, No, I need more.
• 1:08:09
  SPEAKER_06: I think it was five million.
• 1:08:10
  SPEAKER_05: I need more.
• 1:08:13
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, Jesus Christ.
• 1:08:14
  SPEAKER_01: I need more than a billion.
• 1:08:15
  SPEAKER_01: Let me ask you a few.
• 1:08:16
  SPEAKER_01: They raised five million so far for the GoFundMe.
• 1:08:18
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, let me ask you a serious question.
• 1:08:20
  SPEAKER_05: Come on, when they uh when they offer you that much amount of money, I'm making a GoFundMe tomorrow.
• 1:08:25
  SPEAKER_05: Do you really think a wall can't be built with that amount of money?
• 1:08:30
  SPEAKER_04: Well, for the simple fact, everyone everyone is really thinking that like this huge impenetrable wall is going to be built.
• 1:08:37
  SPEAKER_04: It's a fucking chain link fence.
• 1:08:39
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, like that these that that that these Mexicans can fucking build stairs on on the other side and walk right the fuck over your wall.
• 1:08:46
  SPEAKER_04: So the fuck does it matter?
• 1:08:48
  SPEAKER_01: That's what I'm saying.
• 1:08:49
  SPEAKER_07: Is that what he's trying to build with that much?
• 1:08:51
  SPEAKER_07: So this is this is the the funny part, because I was I watched a snippet of um the Daily Show with Trevor Noah.
• 1:08:57
  SPEAKER_07: And because right now El Chapo's on trial, and some of the people that are guarding El Chapo aren't getting paid.
• 1:09:02
  SPEAKER_07: Like the National Guard isn't getting paid, and this nigga's escaped prison twice, and he smuggled over like what, a hundred million dollars worth of cocaine through subs, planes, um, and whatever.
• 1:09:14
  SPEAKER_04: You can pay all y'all motherfuckers off for like a big thing.
• 1:09:16
  SPEAKER_07: Basically, the joke was like, nigga, a wall's not gonna do shit because this nigga snuggles how much through submarines and planes, not only that, not only that, but think about it like that.
• 1:09:28
  SPEAKER_04: The federal employees who are guarding this motherfucker, if they if they really not being paid, he can just sit there and be like, yo, listen, how much you want?
• 1:09:36
  SPEAKER_07: And the performance and the exactly the informants of the trial are also aren't getting paid.
• 1:09:40
  SPEAKER_06: So it's like name your price.
• 1:09:42
  SPEAKER_06: First of all, you uppity Negroes, if they're uh gonna pay$80 an hour to build this wall, what are y'all doing?
• 1:09:48
  SPEAKER_04: I am putting on a Texas hat.
• 1:09:52
  SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna stop your uppity.
• 1:09:54
  SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna go build a fucking wall.
• 1:09:58
  SPEAKER_05: There's a video There's a video on YouTube where Son is just walking back and forth in a cell.
• 1:10:03
  SPEAKER_05: There's a hole that you can't see behind that like this little corner wall.
• 1:10:07
  SPEAKER_05: But it's it's like it's it looks like a shower.
• 1:10:10
  SPEAKER_07: It's uh it's a security surveillance camera.
• 1:10:13
  SPEAKER_05: Okay it looks like where the shower should be, but when you look at the cam, when you look at the video, his toilet's on one side, his sink's on the other side, so there's not really supposed to be anything there.
• 1:10:22
  SPEAKER_05: So it looks sus.
• 1:10:23
  SPEAKER_05: He's walking back and forth for at least maybe I'll say five, six minutes.
• 1:10:26
  SPEAKER_05: He sits down on his bed, puts his shoes on, goes behind this little wall that you could barely see, sits down, you see his hand holding the wall, and you just see everything drop.
• 1:10:34
  SPEAKER_05: Towel, everything drop.
• 1:10:36
  SPEAKER_05: Nobody comes in.
• 1:10:38
  SPEAKER_05: How?
• 1:10:39
  SPEAKER_05: If this guy's top priority, how the hell does he just disappear for so long?
• 1:10:44
  SPEAKER_04: Money.
• 1:10:44
  SPEAKER_04: Money.
• 1:10:44
  SPEAKER_04: Money, bro.
• 1:10:45
  SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
• 1:10:45
  SPEAKER_05: You pay people to look the other way.
• 1:10:47
  SPEAKER_05: So it's like, what are we doing?
• 1:10:49
  SPEAKER_05: Listen, let me ask you a question.
• 1:10:50
  SPEAKER_04: Everybody has a price.
• 1:10:51
  SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
• 1:10:52
  SPEAKER_05: We're shutting down bridges for this nigga.
• 1:10:53
  SPEAKER_04: Everybody has a price.
• 1:10:56
  SPEAKER_05: But let me let me ask you something.
• 1:10:57
  SPEAKER_04: Let me tell you, let me tell you this.
• 1:10:59
  SPEAKER_04: If El Chapo came to Donald Trump with the right price, Donald Trump would set him free his fucking self.
• 1:11:04
  SPEAKER_05: For real.
• 1:11:04
  SPEAKER_05: For real.
• 1:11:06
  SPEAKER_05: I wouldn't be surprised.
• 1:11:06
  SPEAKER_05: Chap would say, yeah, I'll give you that.
• 1:11:08
  SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
• 1:11:08
  SPEAKER_07: Let's do this government shut down so then it makes it a little easier for you to start.
• 1:11:12
  SPEAKER_04: Absolutely.
• 1:11:14
  SPEAKER_04: If there was a time, it was that it's now.
• 1:11:16
  SPEAKER_04: Shout shout to my Mexican folk out there.
• 1:11:18
  SPEAKER_04: I I hope I hope y'all get get this man back to his family in Mexico.
• 1:11:21
  SPEAKER_04: Well, his wife, because she was the only person that held it down.
• 1:11:24
  SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
• 1:11:24
  SPEAKER_04: Everybody else folded.
• 1:11:25
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, the mission.
• 1:11:26
  SPEAKER_07: Everybody.
• 1:11:27
  SPEAKER_07: There was a guy who got plastic surgery, so the FBI won't recognize him.
• 1:11:30
  SPEAKER_07: It's wild.
• 1:11:32
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, it's wild.
• 1:11:33
  SPEAKER_05: Nobody wants to do no Fed Thomas.
• 1:11:35
  SPEAKER_04: Speaking of plastic surgery, did you hear about that guy who got plastic surgery so that way he can date his ex-girlfriend who had gotten an order of protection against him?
• 1:11:45
  SPEAKER_00: No, that's wild.
• 1:11:48
  SPEAKER_00: Her pussy must have been fired.
• 1:11:51
  SPEAKER_06: Her pussy must have been fire.
• 1:11:53
  SPEAKER_06: That's a testament that men love harder than women.
• 1:11:55
  SPEAKER_06: I don't want to get it.
• 1:11:59
  SPEAKER_06: I agree.
• 1:12:01
  SPEAKER_06: I've never seen a woman die over love.
• 1:12:03
  SPEAKER_07: What?
• 1:12:04
  SPEAKER_06: I've never seen a woman die over love.
• 1:12:05
  SPEAKER_06: Romeo and Juliet, you know.
• 1:12:07
  SPEAKER_06: What are you talking about?
• 1:12:09
  SPEAKER_06: Like a woman.
• 1:12:10
  SPEAKER_06: Give me an example where a woman has died in the name of love.
• 1:12:12
  SPEAKER_06: Niggas go to war for women.
• 1:12:14
  SPEAKER_06: Niggas die over women.
• 1:12:15
  SPEAKER_06: When?
• 1:12:16
  SPEAKER_06: Bruce Jenner?
• 1:12:17
  SPEAKER_06: A woman died or a woman was born?
• 1:12:18
  SPEAKER_06: That nigga died for himself.
• 1:12:22
  SPEAKER_06: He's a man.
• 1:12:24
  SPEAKER_06: The man died.
• 1:12:25
  SPEAKER_06: The man died.
• 1:12:27
  SPEAKER_06: I'm telling you, men love uh harder than women.
• 1:12:29
  SPEAKER_06: The women are trash.
• 1:12:30
  SPEAKER_06: That's pretty much it.
• 1:12:30
  SPEAKER_06: That's just a little bit more.
• 1:12:31
  SPEAKER_06: No, stop it.
• 1:12:32
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, we can do this every week.
• 1:12:33
  SPEAKER_07: Excuse you.
• 1:12:35
  SPEAKER_07: Men are just more psychotic.
• 1:12:37
  SPEAKER_07: Doesn't mean they love harder.
• 1:12:38
  SPEAKER_07: They're psychotic.
• 1:12:40
  SPEAKER_07: They're more psychotic.
• 1:12:41
  SPEAKER_05: Watch you.
• 1:12:41
  SPEAKER_07: They're more psychotic.
• 1:12:42
  SPEAKER_05: And they're gonna show you how a man loves harder than that.
• 1:12:44
  SPEAKER_05: They're more psychotic.
• 1:12:45
  SPEAKER_05: Watch the netfit.
• 1:12:46
  SPEAKER_07: That means he's a psycho, bro.
• 1:12:48
  SPEAKER_07: He was in love with me.
• 1:12:49
  SPEAKER_07: He was a psycho.
• 1:12:51
  SPEAKER_07: Men are more definitely men are more psycho.
• 1:12:53
  SPEAKER_07: Exactly.
• 1:12:55
  SPEAKER_05: Let me tell you something.
• 1:12:56
  SPEAKER_07: Exactly.
• 1:12:56
  SPEAKER_07: Talking about women are more emotional.
• 1:12:58
  SPEAKER_07: Fuck like men are fucking psychotic and kills.
• 1:13:01
  SPEAKER_07: No, the psychosis is doing it in love.
• 1:13:02
  SPEAKER_07: Psychosis isn't an emotion.
• 1:13:04
  SPEAKER_05: We fall in love so strong that we'll kill for it.
• 1:13:06
  SPEAKER_07: No, but it's that's part of their psychosis, though.
• 1:13:09
  SPEAKER_07: Their emotions.
• 1:13:10
  unknown: Yeah.
• 1:13:10
  SPEAKER_05: Listen, we love so hard that we'll kill for it.
• 1:13:12
  SPEAKER_05: So yeah, I want to talk about this ratchet chair.
• 1:13:14
  SPEAKER_07: Just saying this stereotype is the first thing.
• 1:13:19
  SPEAKER_06: Tiana Taylor and uh Shumper, you want to uh bring us home there, K.O.
• 1:13:22
  SPEAKER_06: on the ratchet?
• 1:13:23
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, yeah.
• 1:13:23
  SPEAKER_07: So she posted a picture because it was Drea's birthday.
• 1:13:26
  SPEAKER_06: Who's Drea?
• 1:13:27
  SPEAKER_06: Bad.
• 1:13:27
  SPEAKER_06: That's the answer.
• 1:13:30
  SPEAKER_04: For the people out there, I I I barely know who she is.
• 1:13:33
  SPEAKER_04: Um she was on Basketball Wise.
• 1:13:35
  SPEAKER_07: That's the one Yeah, she was on Basketball Wise, she's in Orlando.
• 1:13:38
  SPEAKER_07: What's his last name from the Cowboys?
• 1:13:40
  SPEAKER_07: Orlando, what's his name?
• 1:13:41
  SPEAKER_06: Skandrick.
• 1:13:42
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, okay.
• 1:13:42
  SPEAKER_06: So he was a corner then.
• 1:13:44
  SPEAKER_06: Wasn't that good?
• 1:13:44
  SPEAKER_07: But uh but she's engaged, she's engaged to him.
• 1:13:48
  SPEAKER_07: She has her own line called McSwim.
• 1:13:51
  SPEAKER_06: So she's a basketball wife, well not a football wife.
• 1:13:55
  SPEAKER_06: She's just, you know, one of those socialites.
• 1:13:57
  SPEAKER_06: You can say like how Kim K was before she was a stripper.
• 1:14:00
  SPEAKER_04: So she so she married the bag and uh then blew up off of that.
• 1:14:05
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, okay.
• 1:14:05
  SPEAKER_06: Now she married another bag.
• 1:14:06
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 1:14:06
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, pretty much.
• 1:14:08
  SPEAKER_06: She she was a stripper at one point.
• 1:14:10
  SPEAKER_06: Uh on the show, I just remember her debut was like all the basketball wives are like, oh, you're the girls that we hate.
• 1:14:15
  SPEAKER_06: You're the strippers, you're the groupies.
• 1:14:16
  SPEAKER_06: So that's how she came in, and she was just like, okay.
• 1:14:18
  SPEAKER_06: She's the one that made up the phrase, your whole uh your body count can get deleted.
• 1:14:22
  SPEAKER_06: I think she's the one that started that.
• 1:14:26
  SPEAKER_06: There you go.
• 1:14:27
  SPEAKER_04: So that's Dreya.
• 1:14:28
  SPEAKER_04: So any any any any any women that I slept with in my past, that shit doesn't fucking exist.
• 1:14:34
  SPEAKER_04: Um, I'm a virgin.
• 1:14:36
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 1:14:36
  SPEAKER_06: They're about to all try to free up.
• 1:14:38
  SPEAKER_06: But chill out.
• 1:14:39
  SPEAKER_07: Bad.
• 1:14:40
  SPEAKER_07: So that booty on.
• 1:14:41
  SPEAKER_07: She was like hugged up with Drea, and then she says, Tiana's uh caption is when the hottest girl in school lets quiet, nerdy trade, take her to prom, and then she's like, Happy birthday, babe.
• 1:14:51
  SPEAKER_07: And then uh Iman posted this is corny as fuck, and then she replied, You big man, big fella.
• 1:14:58
  SPEAKER_07: And then he posted, Cap if you want, this time you really tweaking.
• 1:15:02
  SPEAKER_07: Then like this shit is bogus.
• 1:15:03
  SPEAKER_07: Or you bogus as fuck or some shit.
• 1:15:05
  SPEAKER_07: He actually apologized today or yeah, earlier last night.
• 1:15:09
  SPEAKER_04: Apologized for what?
• 1:15:10
  SPEAKER_07: For posting those comments.
• 1:15:12
  SPEAKER_07: He's like, I shouldn't have done that, but I apologize to my wife.
• 1:15:15
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, so he was actually upset.
• 1:15:16
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, it's I it seems like he was.
• 1:15:20
  SPEAKER_07: Exactly.
• 1:15:21
  SPEAKER_07: So that's why I proposed the question.
• 1:15:23
  SPEAKER_07: Because is she bi?
• 1:15:24
  SPEAKER_07: I think she might be.
• 1:15:27
  SPEAKER_07: They've had three subs.
• 1:15:30
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, and she was like dressed like an AG, yeah.
• 1:15:32
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, who?
• 1:15:33
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, uh, Tiana Taylor.
• 1:15:34
  SPEAKER_06: When she first came up, but she does have a very strong face.
• 1:15:37
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:15:38
  SPEAKER_06: I think she's incredibly ugly, by the way.
• 1:15:40
  SPEAKER_06: I think she's an ugly person.
• 1:15:41
  SPEAKER_06: I think Tiana Taylor is ugly in the face.
• 1:15:43
  SPEAKER_06: She has an amazing body, though.
• 1:15:44
  SPEAKER_06: She does, yo.
• 1:15:45
  SPEAKER_06: She gave birth and still had her sick pack.
• 1:15:47
  SPEAKER_06: She has like body.
• 1:15:50
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:15:50
  SPEAKER_06: But her face is too old.
• 1:15:52
  SPEAKER_04: She has a face for radio.
• 1:15:53
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, she can keep diamonds with that.
• 1:15:55
  SPEAKER_07: She reminds you of handsome Squidward.
• 1:15:56
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:15:57
  SPEAKER_07: There's a few people that remind me of handsome Squidward Squidward.
• 1:16:00
  SPEAKER_07: But she has because the features.
• 1:16:02
  SPEAKER_06: KOcho, ask the panel that question.
• 1:16:04
  SPEAKER_06: I think it's a really good one.
• 1:16:05
  SPEAKER_07: So my question is would you be comfortable dating a bisexual girl and would you let her see other girls while you're together?
• 1:16:11
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 1:16:12
  SPEAKER_05: As long as the other female could come home.
• 1:16:14
  SPEAKER_05: Other female woman?
• 1:16:16
  SPEAKER_05: The other woman could come home too.
• 1:16:18
  SPEAKER_05: You know why?
• 1:16:19
  SPEAKER_05: Me.
• 1:16:20
  SPEAKER_07: So she couldn't have a separate relationship with her?
• 1:16:23
  SPEAKER_05: Nah.
• 1:16:23
  SPEAKER_05: It ain't.
• 1:16:24
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, she has to share.
• 1:16:25
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
• 1:16:25
  SPEAKER_05: It ain't.
• 1:16:27
  SPEAKER_05: What kind of nigga do I look like getting cooked by a woman?
• 1:16:29
  SPEAKER_05: Are you crazy?
• 1:16:29
  SPEAKER_05: It's not getting carrius.
• 1:16:32
  SPEAKER_07: It's not getting cocked if it's another woman.
• 1:16:33
  SPEAKER_07: It's not getting a couple of countries.
• 1:16:34
  SPEAKER_05: I don't think it's another cooked.
• 1:16:35
  SPEAKER_05: I don't think it's getting cooked.
• 1:16:36
  SPEAKER_05: It's not getting cooked if you watching your girl getting.
• 1:16:39
  SPEAKER_05: It's not watching it.
• 1:16:41
  SPEAKER_05: It's not gonna get cooked.
• 1:16:42
  SPEAKER_05: Alright, whatever, cool.
• 1:16:43
  SPEAKER_05: But like I said, me, my first relationship actual relationship was with a female that was more than a woman.
• 1:16:51
  SPEAKER_07: A pigeon?
• 1:16:52
  SPEAKER_07: It's like the woman.
• 1:16:53
  SPEAKER_07: Like the word is like disappears from his head when he's talking.
• 1:16:59
  unknown: Masculine than you?
• 1:17:00
  SPEAKER_05: Not masculine, masculine.
• 1:17:01
  SPEAKER_05: Masculine?
• 1:17:03
  SPEAKER_05: So she dresses, she had the she dressed like both.
• 1:17:06
  SPEAKER_05: A boy, but also dressed like a female.
• 1:17:08
  SPEAKER_05: So you were dating a dike.
• 1:17:09
  SPEAKER_06: A female what?
• 1:17:09
  SPEAKER_06: She was a dog.
• 1:17:11
  SPEAKER_05: She wasn't a dike.
• 1:17:12
  SPEAKER_05: She was more than a big animals dress as well.
• 1:17:14
  SPEAKER_05: So I could see myself doing it.
• 1:17:16
  SPEAKER_05: So you were dating a dike.
• 1:17:17
  SPEAKER_05: A tomboy.
• 1:17:18
  SPEAKER_05: She wasn't a dike.
• 1:17:18
  SPEAKER_05: Listen, that's that's a that's a PC term.
• 1:17:21
  SPEAKER_05: But whatever.
• 1:17:22
  SPEAKER_05: She liked both.
• 1:17:23
  SPEAKER_05: She liked both.
• 1:17:24
  SPEAKER_06: And she used to dress up like a man.
• 1:17:26
  SPEAKER_05: No, she didn't dress like a man.
• 1:17:27
  SPEAKER_05: She dressed like how Tiana Taylor dressed up.
• 1:17:29
  SPEAKER_06: Like a like a man.
• 1:17:32
  SPEAKER_06: What's the difference?
• 1:17:33
  SPEAKER_05: You could dress like a man to say it, nigga.
• 1:17:36
  SPEAKER_05: Man, what's wrong with that?
• 1:17:39
  SPEAKER_05: Like, alright, like sweatpants, sneakers.
• 1:17:41
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, give us an example.
• 1:17:42
  SPEAKER_05: Nigga, that's how I'm dressed right now.
• 1:17:44
  SPEAKER_07: Well, girls, I wear, I I will have sweatsuits and tracksuits and sneakers.
• 1:17:48
  SPEAKER_07: But it doesn't mean I'm dressing like a man.
• 1:17:49
  SPEAKER_05: It's a punk couple.
• 1:17:51
  SPEAKER_05: If she comes out in some some skinny jeans with some.
• 1:17:54
  SPEAKER_01: So you mean the clothes, the articles of clothes and were loose.
• 1:17:57
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's like loosely loosely boycotes.
• 1:18:00
  SPEAKER_05: Was it your clothes?
• 1:18:01
  SPEAKER_05: At one point she did wear my clothes.
• 1:18:03
  SPEAKER_06: How big was this woman?
• 1:18:06
  SPEAKER_06: She wore my clothes to go to sleep.
• 1:18:07
  SPEAKER_06: Ah, nigga, you know what I meant.
• 1:18:09
  SPEAKER_06: She wore your clothes outside.
• 1:18:10
  SPEAKER_06: No, no, outside, no.
• 1:18:11
  SPEAKER_06: So she bought this man clothes.
• 1:18:12
  SPEAKER_06: It was in the dike, bro.
• 1:18:14
  SPEAKER_05: Sorry.
• 1:18:14
  SPEAKER_05: Go ahead.
• 1:18:14
  SPEAKER_05: It wasn't a dike.
• 1:18:16
  SPEAKER_05: But I can see myself doing that because I feel like Tiana Taylor is attractive.
• 1:18:19
  SPEAKER_05: So I could see myself dating a bisexual female.
• 1:18:22
  SPEAKER_05: Female Woman.
• 1:18:24
  SPEAKER_05: Bisexual woman.
• 1:18:25
  SPEAKER_06: Woman.
• 1:18:25
  SPEAKER_06: Just say Umar.
• 1:18:26
  SPEAKER_05: Woman.
• 1:18:26
  SPEAKER_05: Woman.
• 1:18:27
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, Lim.
• 1:18:28
  SPEAKER_05: Something.
• 1:18:29
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:18:30
  SPEAKER_05: The woman have a come home to me too.
• 1:18:32
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 1:18:32
  SPEAKER_06: Um, in my opinion, um, I'm cool with it, man.
• 1:18:34
  SPEAKER_06: Y'all can have your whole little side relationship, all that shit.
• 1:18:37
  SPEAKER_06: I just don't want it to be uh like a ironically an AG, like an aggressive You want it to be a ellipstick lesbian.
• 1:18:45
  SPEAKER_06: Absolutely.
• 1:18:46
  SPEAKER_06: Any nigga come to my door with a bass in his voice and a strap on on, I'm gonna be like, yo, what is what's gonna be?
• 1:18:54
  SPEAKER_06: I'm just saying, I use that term, how I use that term.
• 1:18:56
  SPEAKER_06: You know what I mean.
• 1:18:57
  SPEAKER_06: We already had a conversation on this podcast.
• 1:18:58
  SPEAKER_06: If a nigga spit on you, you would punch that nigga in his face.
• 1:19:02
  SPEAKER_06: So if a nigga come to my doorstep talking about, yeah, I'm here to pick up Brionna, I'm gonna be like, What are you here to pick up whom?
• 1:19:09
  SPEAKER_06: Like, that's not gonna work.
• 1:19:09
  SPEAKER_05: But if she if she came with heels on and she was So she came with heels dressed like a whole take, man.
• 1:19:16
  SPEAKER_05: And then the bass kicks in.
• 1:19:18
  SPEAKER_05: No, I'm slapping.
• 1:19:19
  SPEAKER_06: Disrespectfully.
• 1:19:20
  SPEAKER_06: Disrespecting my culture, you can't do that.
• 1:19:23
  SPEAKER_05: I can't I can't be with okay with that.
• 1:19:24
  SPEAKER_06: No, I could.
• 1:19:25
  SPEAKER_06: She can have a whole other relationship.
• 1:19:26
  SPEAKER_06: That's cool.
• 1:19:26
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, because yeah, that was my question.
• 1:19:28
  SPEAKER_07: She can have a whole separate relationship.
• 1:19:33
  SPEAKER_05: That's impossible.
• 1:19:34
  SPEAKER_07: He's saying he'll be so he'll be secure in his relationship.
• 1:19:36
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I got the length and strength.
• 1:19:38
  SPEAKER_06: Nothing is beating the length and strength.
• 1:19:39
  SPEAKER_06: A rubber.
• 1:19:40
  SPEAKER_06: A rubber length and strength.
• 1:19:42
  SPEAKER_06: No, I can't beat that.
• 1:19:42
  SPEAKER_06: You drunk?
• 1:19:43
  SPEAKER_06: Can't beat that.
• 1:19:44
  SPEAKER_07: Okay, guys.
• 1:19:45
  SPEAKER_06: So I'm cool with you.
• 1:19:46
  SPEAKER_05: How do you feel, right?
• 1:19:47
  SPEAKER_05: Come out with a strap that never nuts.
• 1:19:49
  SPEAKER_05: It's over for your ass.
• 1:19:50
  SPEAKER_07: Guys, y'all forget the clit exists.
• 1:19:52
  SPEAKER_04: No, no.
• 1:19:53
  SPEAKER_04: Most most guys uh from what I hear, women say most guys forget the clit exists.
• 1:19:58
  SPEAKER_07: Uh that's that's what I'm saying.
• 1:20:01
  SPEAKER_07: Like you guys say length and strength and all this shit, but like physically, nothing beats a clit orgasm.
• 1:20:08
  SPEAKER_07: So if you can do both, then you then you're good.
• 1:20:11
  SPEAKER_07: No, no, no, no, no.
• 1:20:12
  SPEAKER_07: You can just go.
• 1:20:13
  SPEAKER_07: No, no, no.
• 1:20:13
  SPEAKER_07: Not I'm telling you, I'm telling you.
• 1:20:15
  SPEAKER_07: Obviously, some girls do want to, you know, be you know, pounded, whatever.
• 1:20:20
  SPEAKER_07: But nothing will ever be an orgasm from the clit.
• 1:20:23
  SPEAKER_07: So it's physically, because there's more nerves on your cloth than anywhere else.
• 1:20:28
  SPEAKER_04: The same way, nothing will beat an orgasm when we jack ourselves off.
• 1:20:30
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah, nothing, yeah.
• 1:20:33
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, so it's not it's not the same, so like you'd have you gain more pleasure from jerking off than having to.
• 1:20:37
  SPEAKER_04: Oh no, but there have there like I said, I've been in snatches and they have been not so great.
• 1:20:46
  SPEAKER_07: But okay, but are there some that have beaten your own hand?
• 1:20:51
  SPEAKER_05: There is some.
• 1:20:52
  SPEAKER_06: It's the package of sex.
• 1:20:54
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it's the package of the bag.
• 1:20:55
  SPEAKER_06: If you just in a vacuum, uh huh, you just know this right here.
• 1:21:00
  SPEAKER_06: This shit can get defeated.
• 1:21:02
  SPEAKER_06: Not under the own.
• 1:21:06
  SPEAKER_06: Like in a vacuum.
• 1:21:07
  SPEAKER_06: We're talking about in the vacuum.
• 1:21:08
  SPEAKER_06: One-on-one.
• 1:21:09
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that shit is available.
• 1:21:11
  SPEAKER_05: So that's why women say women know what a woman wants.
• 1:21:16
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, to be honest, that's why it comes.
• 1:21:18
  SPEAKER_07: That's why, like, when you take those poles, lesbians have the most orgasms out of everybody.
• 1:21:24
  SPEAKER_07: Because they know they know what you want.
• 1:21:26
  SPEAKER_07: What was the question, though?
• 1:21:28
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah.
• 1:21:30
  SPEAKER_07: Because basically he was saying that he's gonna be secure because he has the length and strength.
• 1:21:33
  SPEAKER_04: No, no, no.
• 1:21:34
  SPEAKER_07: I'm saying that the question that's would you be would you be comfortable with um dating a bisexual girl and like would you be comfortable with her maybe having another relationship with a girl?
• 1:21:42
  SPEAKER_07: Talk about a girlfriend.
• 1:21:42
  SPEAKER_07: Separately from you.
• 1:21:44
  SPEAKER_04: Alright, so let me let me answer.
• 1:21:46
  SPEAKER_04: Or would you have to share that?
• 1:21:47
  SPEAKER_04: Let me answer as a 32-year-old.
• 1:21:49
  SPEAKER_07: Yep.
• 1:21:50
  SPEAKER_04: Uh Chubbs, how old are you, sir?
• 1:21:52
  SPEAKER_07: 25.
• 1:21:52
  SPEAKER_04: 25.
• 1:21:53
  SPEAKER_04: As a 25-year-old, I would say that I would definitely entertain um a girl who, you know, is bisexual and so forth and so on.
• 1:22:02
  SPEAKER_04: At this point in my life, if we're only fucking for the night, will I entertain that?
• 1:22:10
  SPEAKER_04: But is that a lifestyle that I want my woman to engage in?
• 1:22:13
  SPEAKER_04: No.
• 1:22:14
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 1:22:14
  SPEAKER_07: Why is that?
• 1:22:16
  SPEAKER_07: Um It's also you're dealing with more people in the relationship.
• 1:22:20
  SPEAKER_04: Or not well, that that, but you know, it's one of those things where if she dates other people, it's like shit, there's no fucking wins in that situation.
• 1:22:29
  SPEAKER_04: Like you're looking at everything.
• 1:22:30
  SPEAKER_04: You're you know what I'm saying?
• 1:22:31
  SPEAKER_04: It wouldn't matter.
• 1:22:35
  SPEAKER_04: So whether it's temptation, whether that be a whether that be a dude who who got the bag, or whether that be a woman who got the bag.
• 1:22:43
  SPEAKER_04: Like, or whether it be something like it it doesn't matter.
• 1:22:46
  SPEAKER_04: You g you're gonna you're gonna, you know what I'm saying, get yours from both ends of the motherfucking court and shit like that.
• 1:22:52
  SPEAKER_07: Like it's but it doesn't have to be for a bag.
• 1:22:53
  SPEAKER_07: Like it's a relationship.
• 1:22:55
  SPEAKER_04: But no, no, no, but I'm saying what I'm saying is like certain things different things to justify the bag Right.
• 1:23:01
  SPEAKER_04: Um when you when when you when you're looking when I'm looking at it from a serious point of view, it's just one of those things like listen if if we gonna sit here and keep the outsiders out, then you know that's just what it is.
• 1:23:14
  SPEAKER_04: But like I said, um if I'm being serious with a woman, then no.
• 1:23:18
  SPEAKER_07: But if it's just on some even if she can be monogamous, you just don't want to deal with that.
• 1:23:25
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 1:23:25
  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
• 1:23:26
  SPEAKER_05: Can I ask a question?
• 1:23:27
  SPEAKER_05: Are you okay if you went to date in a girl and have a threesome now?
• 1:23:31
  SPEAKER_05: Like you can't do a long-term her having a relationship, but can you do a threesome in your relationship?
• 1:23:36
  SPEAKER_05: Is water wet?
• 1:23:38
  SPEAKER_05: Is pigs?
• 1:23:39
  SPEAKER_04: Is it pig's pussy pork, nigga?
• 1:23:41
  SPEAKER_05: Not necessarily.
• 1:23:42
  SPEAKER_05: Drop a rock in water, it's not wet when it's not.
• 1:23:46
  SPEAKER_04: Um it would just have to it would all boil down to the circumstances and the situation.
• 1:23:52
  SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
• 1:23:52
  SPEAKER_04: Like, what the fuck we j are we jumping in it for what exactly?
• 1:23:56
  SPEAKER_04: For money.
• 1:23:59
  SPEAKER_04: If it's fun, if it's fun for fun, you know what I mean?
• 1:24:02
  SPEAKER_04: And hey, granted, but you know, at the same time, you know, when you reach a certain place in your relationship and reach a certain point, it's like, okay, like you have to look into why you're doing it.
• 1:24:15
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, right.
• 1:24:15
  SPEAKER_07: It's like why are you doing it?
• 1:24:17
  SPEAKER_04: It's not something you do just because it's fucking Tuesday.
• 1:24:20
  SPEAKER_04: I don't have a traditional.
• 1:24:21
  SPEAKER_07: Which I think in their relationship they do.
• 1:24:23
  SPEAKER_07: I think they do have porn.
• 1:24:24
  SPEAKER_04: Well, I mean, they're sell they're celebrities, they're different.
• 1:24:26
  SPEAKER_06: No, you want me to actually follow up on this?
• 1:24:28
  SPEAKER_06: Most people gotta go to work and worry about bills and shit like that.
• 1:24:31
  SPEAKER_06: Amon Schumpert liked a picture on Instagram of a porn star's baby, and then rumors began to swirl that that was his baby that he followed during a three-star with.
• 1:24:43
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah, yeah, I do remember seeing that.
• 1:24:44
  SPEAKER_04: And that in fact, they were saying that that's why she deleted her Instagram because of uh her being attacked on on you know about that situation.
• 1:24:55
  SPEAKER_06: How do you uh I look like the relationship that I'm currently building and uh I'm you know I'm nailing in.
• 1:25:00
  SPEAKER_06: Uh I'm building, I'm building a harem, and uh, you know, uh that's that's my goal pretty much, if if that shumper shit is true.
• 1:25:10
  SPEAKER_06: So I don't necessarily see an issue with that, but you see, I don't have like the traditional relationship.
• 1:25:14
  SPEAKER_06: So I just wanted to see how y'all felt about that.
• 1:25:17
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, like I said, I mean uh ultimately I think it has to do with you know people's lifestyles.
• 1:25:22
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 1:25:22
  SPEAKER_04: You know, you have to find somebody whose shit, you know, pretty much suits yours.
• 1:25:25
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 1:25:26
  SPEAKER_04: And I think like, you know, like K.O.cho said, you know, it boils down to the reason of why you're doing it.
• 1:25:31
  SPEAKER_07: Exactly.
• 1:25:32
  SPEAKER_04: You know, if is there is are are you trying to revive something?
• 1:25:38
  SPEAKER_04: Are you trying are you trying to have fun um and just have your woman there so you don't get in trouble while you have fun?
• 1:25:45
  SPEAKER_04: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no I can answer that for you.
• 1:25:48
  SPEAKER_04: Or you know what I'm saying?
• 1:25:49
  SPEAKER_04: Like there's there's there's different reasons, but like you said, it all boils down to communication and things of that nature.
• 1:26:00
  SPEAKER_05: It wouldn't be on what do we do on it?
• 1:26:05
  SPEAKER_05: Because it would be on my end if you bring home a nigga, then it's a problem and tell me a female what you bring home a girl and be like, listen, I want to spice things up.
• 1:26:21
  SPEAKER_05: I never had this, you never had to be something, let's try it.
• 1:26:24
  SPEAKER_04: Oh nah, nigga.
• 1:26:25
  SPEAKER_04: She bring home a dude for you.
• 1:26:26
  SPEAKER_05: No, she bring home a nigga.
• 1:26:28
  SPEAKER_05: The whole relationship, the kid, everything got to go.
• 1:26:31
  SPEAKER_05: The kid got to go.
• 1:26:32
  SPEAKER_04: I saw some shit like that online.
• 1:26:34
  SPEAKER_04: I saw some shit like that online.
• 1:26:36
  SPEAKER_04: It was like a dude, he said something about, oh, um, my my bitch better not bring no nigga to threesome, like the fuck she thinks she is.
• 1:26:47
  SPEAKER_04: It ain't going down like that.
• 1:26:48
  SPEAKER_04: And this chick was like, nigga, please, you sucking dick too.
• 1:26:51
  SPEAKER_04: Like, that shit was just women are evil, man.
• 1:26:58
  SPEAKER_04: No, it's true.
• 1:26:59
  SPEAKER_04: No, no, y'all are fucking vicious when you're like.
• 1:27:03
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 1:27:05
  SPEAKER_04: A dude can sit there and play with you and be like, oh, it's your big-headed ass, but then you're gonna sit there and talk about his brother that got shot in the third grade and some stupid shit.
• 1:27:14
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, you pussy.
• 1:27:15
  SPEAKER_06: A nigga that shot your brother still alive.
• 1:27:16
  SPEAKER_06: You'll be like, God, bro.
• 1:27:21
  SPEAKER_06: Come ready to play.
• 1:27:27
  SPEAKER_06: Nah, that shit is crazy.
• 1:27:28
  SPEAKER_06: Um, but red uh joke could tell a fit.
• 1:27:30
  SPEAKER_06: Just to keep on the ratchet shit.
• 1:27:32
  SPEAKER_04: Uh I think you had a really good topic about uh shallowness and we we all, we all have shallowness.
• 1:27:41
  SPEAKER_04: We all have something shallow about us, our likes, uh, the things we're attracted to at times, our wants, they can all be shallow.
• 1:27:51
  SPEAKER_04: But what is a reason or two that you have stopped talking to slash dating or dating?
• 1:28:00
  SPEAKER_04: Dating someone.
• 1:28:01
  SPEAKER_04: Like, what shallow reasons do you have as to why you stopped talking to them?
• 1:28:05
  SPEAKER_04: Or why you stopped dating them?
• 1:28:07
  SPEAKER_04: Let's go around the panel.
• 1:28:10
  SPEAKER_04: Chubbs, would you care to go first?
• 1:28:12
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, you had four women with you last night.
• 1:28:15
  SPEAKER_04: Um God damn.
• 1:28:17
  SPEAKER_04: Four of them?
• 1:28:18
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, man.
• 1:28:19
  SPEAKER_04: Sweet Jones.
• 1:28:20
  SPEAKER_05: They're a family.
• 1:28:21
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 1:28:22
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, they're all family.
• 1:28:23
  SPEAKER_04: Good shit.
• 1:28:23
  SPEAKER_04: Got the Kardashians with you.
• 1:28:27
  SPEAKER_04: But um No, no, no, don't try to dance over the top of the thing.
• 1:28:32
  SPEAKER_04: No, no, no.
• 1:28:32
  SPEAKER_04: I'm not asking what you've done.
• 1:28:33
  SPEAKER_04: The reason why you stopped dating someone because of your own shallow reason for them.
• 1:28:38
  SPEAKER_04: Like you couldn't date them and you had to stop talking to them because of what?
• 1:28:42
  SPEAKER_04: Because something's so shallow.
• 1:28:45
  SPEAKER_05: Well, I I stopped dating a girl because she tried to kiss me after having my night in her mouth.
• 1:28:49
  SPEAKER_05: I broke up on.
• 1:28:53
  SPEAKER_05: You tried to kiss me and I was just like, shit.
• 1:28:55
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 1:28:57
  SPEAKER_07: After she swallowed it or she still had it in her mouth?
• 1:28:59
  unknown: Either way.
• 1:29:00
  SPEAKER_05: Either way.
• 1:29:01
  SPEAKER_05: It was like go wash her mouth.
• 1:29:03
  SPEAKER_05: Like, you're not gonna swallow and come kiss me.
• 1:29:06
  SPEAKER_05: That's my kid.
• 1:29:07
  SPEAKER_07: So if you eat a girl, have you ever kissed her after?
• 1:29:09
  SPEAKER_07: Absolutely.
• 1:29:09
  SPEAKER_07: Absolutely.
• 1:29:10
  SPEAKER_06: Why are you gonna fuck us?
• 1:29:15
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, then you hypocrite.
• 1:29:17
  SPEAKER_05: I played with the click.
• 1:29:18
  SPEAKER_05: I ain't swallow her kids though.
• 1:29:19
  SPEAKER_07: Nigga, pussy dudes all over.
• 1:29:21
  SPEAKER_07: Like, what are you talking about?
• 1:29:22
  SPEAKER_05: So my chin, I rub the chin.
• 1:29:23
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, it's not on your lips.
• 1:29:24
  SPEAKER_07: Like, it missed your lips.
• 1:29:25
  SPEAKER_07: It may be on my lips.
• 1:29:26
  SPEAKER_07: You eating her out with your chin?
• 1:29:27
  SPEAKER_05: It might be on my lips.
• 1:29:30
  SPEAKER_05: It's different.
• 1:29:31
  SPEAKER_07: Stop.
• 1:29:32
  SPEAKER_07: Y'all can taste your stuff.
• 1:29:32
  SPEAKER_05: I'm not gonna taste my stuff.
• 1:29:34
  unknown: Stop.
• 1:29:36
  SPEAKER_05: Let me ask you a question.
• 1:29:37
  SPEAKER_05: So the You gotta you gotta establish that because if it's not A female A woman, thanks for being corrected.
• 1:29:44
  SPEAKER_05: A woman could play with herself and lick her juices off her finger.
• 1:29:50
  SPEAKER_05: Ain't no nigga beating off in his hand and then, uh, I'm gonna taste my street.
• 1:29:55
  SPEAKER_06: Any nigga that is tasting sexy at all.
• 1:29:58
  SPEAKER_06: Listen, I'm wanting them to DM the Ron up.
• 1:30:00
  SPEAKER_06: I mean the dick.
• 1:30:03
  SPEAKER_06: Why you did that?
• 1:30:04
  SPEAKER_07: In her mouth.
• 1:30:05
  SPEAKER_07: Okay, and she's swallowing it.
• 1:30:06
  SPEAKER_07: Was it a peck or was she trying to tongue his shit?
• 1:30:09
  SPEAKER_07: There's a difference.
• 1:30:10
  SPEAKER_05: Your issue was just a cum.
• 1:30:11
  SPEAKER_05: It with the fact that I nut it in your mouth.
• 1:30:14
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, it's just a cum.
• 1:30:14
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 1:30:15
  SPEAKER_06: So if she just sucked your dick and you didn't come, you kissed her, you'll be high with her.
• 1:30:17
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:30:18
  SPEAKER_05: I've I've done her for the girl that, you know, she just sucked dick.
• 1:30:21
  SPEAKER_06: Nigga, you don't you don't gotta d defend yourself to me.
• 1:30:23
  SPEAKER_06: I just want to know what's going on.
• 1:30:24
  SPEAKER_05: I ain't gonna be like nut is your issue.
• 1:30:27
  SPEAKER_05: You're not gonna have me taste my kids.
• 1:30:32
  SPEAKER_05: What's the most shallow thing you've done, AG?
• 1:30:33
  SPEAKER_06: Um, first of all, I know it's not the most shallow thing you've done.
• 1:30:37
  SPEAKER_06: I understood your question.
• 1:30:38
  SPEAKER_06: I understood.
• 1:30:38
  SPEAKER_06: I was I just didn't want to embarrass him.
• 1:30:40
  SPEAKER_06: So um Wait, what?
• 1:30:41
  SPEAKER_06: Let me say.
• 1:30:44
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, uh, I really don't date, so I dated once and I'm I'm locked in.
• 1:30:50
  SPEAKER_06: But I've definitely stopped talking to somebody.
• 1:30:55
  SPEAKER_06: Um I definitely stopped talking to a shorty because she had a fucking Android.
• 1:31:03
  SPEAKER_06: You know, yeah.
• 1:31:07
  SPEAKER_04: Say, bitch, them but them them green bubbles don't look good in my phone.
• 1:31:10
  SPEAKER_04: I can't say that.
• 1:31:10
  SPEAKER_06: And I gave her a chance to I turn my shit on an airplane wall, put it back on, make sure that it wasn't my fault that was.
• 1:31:15
  SPEAKER_06: And I was like, nah, this shit's still green, shorty.
• 1:31:17
  SPEAKER_06: And she never heard back.
• 1:31:18
  SPEAKER_06: And honestly, that's why I didn't text you back.
• 1:31:20
  SPEAKER_06: If you listen, it's because of that.
• 1:31:23
  SPEAKER_06: She's a cool girl in all, but Android.
• 1:31:26
  SPEAKER_04: She had an Android.
• 1:31:26
  SPEAKER_04: I couldn't do it.
• 1:31:28
  SPEAKER_00: Couldn't, couldn't.
• 1:31:29
  SPEAKER_04: I need I need to I need to know that my messages are delivered, bitch.
• 1:31:32
  SPEAKER_06: I'm good, love and joy.
• 1:31:34
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that was my most shallow moment.
• 1:31:36
  SPEAKER_06: Um, KOcho, Ace.
• 1:31:39
  SPEAKER_07: For me, it's just I lost interest in like a couple months.
• 1:31:42
  SPEAKER_06: That ain't shallow.
• 1:31:43
  SPEAKER_06: We want to hear some shallow.
• 1:31:44
  SPEAKER_06: But that's what I'm saying.
• 1:31:44
  SPEAKER_07: There wasn't I haven't dated a lot of people just like you.
• 1:31:47
  SPEAKER_06: It's been it could have just been a talking stage, but mine was just a talking stage.
• 1:31:50
  SPEAKER_07: No, no, I literally just the most shallow thing is just I literally lost interest.
• 1:31:54
  SPEAKER_07: That's not shallow though, man.
• 1:31:55
  SPEAKER_07: But that's all I got, man.
• 1:31:57
  SPEAKER_07: That's all I got.
• 1:31:59
  SPEAKER_07: I just literally did, I don't know.
• 1:32:00
  SPEAKER_07: It was freshman year in college, and it was just for like a couple weeks, and I was just like, I don't feel like dating you anymore.
• 1:32:08
  SPEAKER_07: I don't know.
• 1:32:09
  SPEAKER_06: We're gonna come back to that story.
• 1:32:10
  SPEAKER_06: There's more to that story.
• 1:32:11
  SPEAKER_07: There's not more to that story.
• 1:32:12
  SPEAKER_07: Well, there's not really, but it's just like literally I was just like, uh, I don't feel like doing this.
• 1:32:17
  SPEAKER_06: There's more to that story.
• 1:32:20
  SPEAKER_06: Right?
• 1:32:20
  SPEAKER_06: No.
• 1:32:21
  SPEAKER_06: You had the 2.5s and shit.
• 1:32:24
  unknown: Somewhere.
• 1:32:24
  SPEAKER_01: Nah.
• 1:32:25
  SPEAKER_06: Alright, Ace.
• 1:32:26
  SPEAKER_06: I wanna hear what Azy.
• 1:32:27
  SPEAKER_06: Ace, we got some shallow shit.
• 1:32:28
  SPEAKER_01: That's impossible, son.
• 1:32:30
  SPEAKER_01: Shallow breakups.
• 1:32:31
  SPEAKER_01: Uh yo, I don't know.
• 1:32:32
  SPEAKER_01: It don't even gotta be a date.
• 1:32:33
  SPEAKER_05: It can be like you was just talking to a girl and she's she sneezed wrong.
• 1:32:36
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:32:37
  SPEAKER_05: She did something and you just like, nah, I can't fuck with them.
• 1:32:39
  SPEAKER_06: She didn't wash her hands and came back in the bathroom.
• 1:32:41
  SPEAKER_06: Something.
• 1:32:42
  SPEAKER_06: Something, bro.
• 1:32:43
  SPEAKER_04: That you just that you just stopped, that you ghosted the chick, like, I just can't fuck with you, nigga.
• 1:32:50
  SPEAKER_05: That's shallow.
• 1:32:53
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, yeah, so it's like your size.
• 1:32:55
  SPEAKER_01: If you can't, no, see, when you see it and have it, it's different.
• 1:32:58
  SPEAKER_01: So, like, yeah.
• 1:32:59
  SPEAKER_01: No, that's definitely one of those.
• 1:33:01
  SPEAKER_05: Like, I I've had one of my homegirls legit tell me, like, a nigga came over, dropped a joy.
• 1:33:06
  SPEAKER_05: She's like, Alright, go home.
• 1:33:07
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, he didn't beat?
• 1:33:07
  SPEAKER_06: Like, then he can't say, I still fuck though.
• 1:33:10
  SPEAKER_06: I still fuck, don't beats anything.
• 1:33:12
  SPEAKER_06: True.
• 1:33:12
  SPEAKER_06: That shit I asked.
• 1:33:13
  SPEAKER_06: She can talk all the shit she wants.
• 1:33:15
  SPEAKER_06: Like, I still fuck, though.
• 1:33:16
  SPEAKER_04: Like, I I like to take my shit just a little bit different uh a little bit further when they say shit like, I'm sorry, but you just can't unsuck this dick.
• 1:33:22
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:33:24
  SPEAKER_05: I like that one.
• 1:33:25
  SPEAKER_06: Some niggas can say you can't uneat this ass.
• 1:33:27
  SPEAKER_06: There's some niggas out there like that too.
• 1:33:28
  SPEAKER_06: This is being mad, bro.
• 1:33:30
  SPEAKER_06: You suck my toes.
• 1:33:31
  SPEAKER_06: You can't say shit.
• 1:33:33
  SPEAKER_05: I just nut it in your mouth though, so hey, listen.
• 1:33:36
  SPEAKER_06: Different strokes of different folks.
• 1:33:37
  SPEAKER_06: But we're not we're not done with you, Ace.
• 1:33:41
  SPEAKER_01: Oh shit.
• 1:33:42
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 1:33:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:33:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:33:43
  SPEAKER_01: I just don't want to be rude with my lady in the room, but um a lady who's this is this is this is business.
• 1:33:48
  SPEAKER_01: This isn't personal.
• 1:33:49
  SPEAKER_01: A lady who couldn't uh couldn't take dick, that was that's no fun.
• 1:33:54
  SPEAKER_01: That's my shallow one.
• 1:33:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's no fun at all.
• 1:33:56
  SPEAKER_01: That's a whole that's literally shallow.
• 1:33:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, that's a way to be able to do it.
• 1:34:00
  SPEAKER_06: Literally shallow.
• 1:34:01
  SPEAKER_01: Because like the at the time the thing that I enjoyed the most was having fucking sex.
• 1:34:05
  SPEAKER_01: So um if you if we're not our chemistry's not good on that.
• 1:34:08
  SPEAKER_04: The art of penetration isn't allowing me to put penetrate fully.
• 1:34:11
  SPEAKER_01: Right, right, right.
• 1:34:13
  SPEAKER_01: I hate bitches that don't mo.
• 1:34:14
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't want to you ever drove your car and never reached over 1500 RPM?
• 1:34:19
  SPEAKER_06: No.
• 1:34:19
  SPEAKER_06: I don't do the math when I drive.
• 1:34:20
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, that means going over the one.
• 1:34:22
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, sure, yeah, absolutely.
• 1:34:24
  SPEAKER_01: You ever drove and never before?
• 1:34:26
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 1:34:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I know what you mean.
• 1:34:28
  SPEAKER_01: That's like something's wrong in like, yeah.
• 1:34:30
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 1:34:30
  SPEAKER_01: You're on the side with the hazards on.
• 1:34:32
  SPEAKER_01: You can't do that.
• 1:34:33
  SPEAKER_01: That's like neglecting.
• 1:34:34
  SPEAKER_01: There's no stimulation there.
• 1:34:35
  SPEAKER_01: Sorry.
• 1:34:36
  SPEAKER_01: So I guess that was my shallow.
• 1:34:37
  SPEAKER_01: Pull over.
• 1:34:39
  SPEAKER_01: But I normally don't burn bridges with anyone.
• 1:34:41
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 1:34:42
  SPEAKER_06: I think you should uh put that on the page for people to So Right.
• 1:34:45
  SPEAKER_05: What's the most shallow thing you've done?
• 1:34:47
  SPEAKER_06: I know this guy got like a hundred in his head.
• 1:34:49
  SPEAKER_04: In your backside.
• 1:34:50
  SPEAKER_07: That you've broken up with someone for.
• 1:34:52
  SPEAKER_04: Why do you assume that I have so many uh women's stories about shit?
• 1:34:55
  SPEAKER_04: Like you proposed a topic.
• 1:34:57
  SPEAKER_04: You propose the question.
• 1:34:58
  SPEAKER_04: So because I propose a topic, does that make me more experience than anyone?
• 1:35:01
  SPEAKER_07: It seems like you may have something in mind.
• 1:35:04
  SPEAKER_04: Uh yeah, I think probably one one of the most shallow reasons why I stopped talking to a woman was because her feet looked horrible.
• 1:35:13
  unknown: That's not shallow.
• 1:35:14
  SPEAKER_04: I just can't date a I just can't date a chick who whose feet don't look better than mine.
• 1:35:19
  SPEAKER_05: Oh man.
• 1:35:19
  SPEAKER_05: Wait, if they look oh if they look worse than a male.
• 1:35:26
  SPEAKER_06: My feet don't look bad at all.
• 1:35:27
  SPEAKER_06: I play sports, but my feet are fucked up.
• 1:35:29
  SPEAKER_06: I played sports too, nigga.
• 1:35:30
  SPEAKER_04: You ain't said shit.
• 1:35:31
  SPEAKER_04: My shit's done.
• 1:35:32
  SPEAKER_04: My feet don't fuck bad.
• 1:35:33
  SPEAKER_04: I listen.
• 1:35:35
  SPEAKER_04: I'm sorry, but I like you know, I like real feminine things about women.
• 1:35:42
  SPEAKER_04: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:35:43
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, I do.
• 1:35:44
  SPEAKER_04: Absolutely.
• 1:35:46
  SPEAKER_04: Suck toes, let's scalp eat ass.
• 1:35:49
  SPEAKER_04: Where's that from?
• 1:35:50
  SPEAKER_04: Where's that from?
• 1:35:51
  SPEAKER_04: Y'all niggas didn't make that up.
• 1:35:52
  SPEAKER_04: Where's that from?
• 1:35:54
  SPEAKER_06: Where's that from?
• 1:35:55
  SPEAKER_06: Because if y'all made that up, we need to make some changes.
• 1:35:58
  SPEAKER_07: The same way Red just did Willie Robo.
• 1:36:01
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:36:02
  SPEAKER_01: Oh damn.
• 1:36:03
  SPEAKER_01: One of the very few things that or one of the many uh comedic skits that we got that just snatch in the mind like that.
• 1:36:10
  SPEAKER_01: Lick scalp.
• 1:36:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, suck toe eat scalp like a shit.
• 1:36:13
  SPEAKER_04: But you know, um feet uh and really this this this may sound whatever, but uh proper table etiquette.
• 1:36:24
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's a big plush.
• 1:36:25
  SPEAKER_04: I can't I can't deal with someone who speaks with their mouth open full of food.
• 1:36:29
  SPEAKER_04: I can't deal with no type of proper dining etiquette like they have the fucking knife in the wrong hand.
• 1:36:36
  SPEAKER_04: No no no I don't care, I don't care I don't care I don't care about that.
• 1:36:39
  SPEAKER_04: But you sitting there, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:36:40
  SPEAKER_04: Sitting there, you know, with your freaking elbows all on the goddamn table and your bot your body language all like I just think that if you're going out to eat, you know what I'm saying, there's just certain there's certain uh you know, there's certain things that you should have been told or uh taught, excuse me.
• 1:37:02
  SPEAKER_04: That's a first.
• 1:37:03
  SPEAKER_04: I never heard table manner.
• 1:37:05
  SPEAKER_05: She gets a half a chicken and she pulls out in a little way and suck that beat straight off the ball, you're gonna tell her whole.
• 1:37:11
  SPEAKER_05: She don't cut it, she just used her hands.
• 1:37:16
  SPEAKER_06: They sell half a chicken in a fancy restaurant?
• 1:37:18
  SPEAKER_06: No, I don't know.
• 1:37:24
  SPEAKER_04: Nigga.
• 1:37:26
  SPEAKER_04: They sell you the whole chicken.
• 1:37:27
  SPEAKER_01: Um let me see.
• 1:37:28
  SPEAKER_04: What else do you think?
• 1:37:32
  SPEAKER_04: A reason that I cut somebody off.
• 1:37:35
  SPEAKER_04: Told y'all he had a hundred of these.
• 1:37:36
  SPEAKER_01: Ooh, ooh.
• 1:37:37
  SPEAKER_01: I I got one.
• 1:37:39
  SPEAKER_04: I stopped what from from my personal story?
• 1:37:41
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 1:37:41
  SPEAKER_01: Go ahead.
• 1:37:42
  SPEAKER_01: I don't want to say it though.
• 1:37:43
  SPEAKER_01: Say it.
• 1:37:43
  SPEAKER_01: I just don't want to be cruel to women.
• 1:37:45
  SPEAKER_01: It's not about being cruel, it's the truth.
• 1:37:46
  SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, he cut he cut a shoddy off because she had too many stretch marks.
• 1:37:50
  SPEAKER_01: Oh.
• 1:37:53
  SPEAKER_01: Really?
• 1:37:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yes!
• 1:37:54
  SPEAKER_04: I forgot about that.
• 1:37:55
  SPEAKER_04: I forgot about that.
• 1:37:58
  SPEAKER_01: I forgot about that.
• 1:37:59
  SPEAKER_01: The women are gonna fuck you up, man.
• 1:38:01
  SPEAKER_01: Listen, listen.
• 1:38:02
  SPEAKER_01: I mean yo, we were mad young at the time, too.
• 1:38:05
  SPEAKER_01: I was we didn't know shit about it.
• 1:38:06
  SPEAKER_04: I think I I think at the time, give or take, I may have been about how old was you said I was at that time.
• 1:38:12
  SPEAKER_04: You must have been 16, maybe.
• 1:38:14
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I was about 16, maybe.
• 1:38:15
  SPEAKER_04: I was still in high school.
• 1:38:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yo, she had she tried to, I saw her the other day.
• 1:38:18
  SPEAKER_01: She tried to act like she didn't know her.
• 1:38:20
  SPEAKER_01: Know me or remember the whole block.
• 1:38:22
  SPEAKER_01: Like, yo, okay, yo, you got a kid now.
• 1:38:25
  SPEAKER_01: I get it.
• 1:38:25
  SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
• 1:38:26
  SPEAKER_04: I'll tell you where your mouth was.
• 1:38:27
  SPEAKER_07: Well, it seems she had a good reason to act like she didn't know y'all.
• 1:38:30
  SPEAKER_07: Going yours.
• 1:38:31
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, like, he didn't do anything.
• 1:38:33
  SPEAKER_07: He's associated with he's associated with you.
• 1:38:36
  SPEAKER_04: Can we hear the story?
• 1:38:37
  SPEAKER_04: Uh yeah, so did she have a kid?
• 1:38:39
  SPEAKER_05: Or was it just like stretch mark?
• 1:38:41
  SPEAKER_04: Not yet.
• 1:38:41
  SPEAKER_04: Not yet.
• 1:38:42
  SPEAKER_04: I said I was 16.
• 1:38:44
  SPEAKER_07: Because there's also some women, there's also some women that can have stretch mark from growing.
• 1:38:50
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:38:50
  SPEAKER_04: Like there's skinny women who have stretch marks.
• 1:38:53
  SPEAKER_04: No, she didn't have any children.
• 1:38:55
  SPEAKER_01: No, she was a little she was a little heavier before and she lost her weight.
• 1:38:58
  SPEAKER_01: She was still cute, a very attractive young lady.
• 1:39:00
  SPEAKER_04: Right, but I just wasn't expecting her stomach to look like a panda lasagna when the fucking clothes came off.
• 1:39:07
  SPEAKER_05: You know, you know what's real sad?
• 1:39:08
  SPEAKER_05: I'm off the mic.
• 1:39:09
  SPEAKER_05: So you didn't beat.
• 1:39:10
  SPEAKER_05: You know what's real sad?
• 1:39:10
  SPEAKER_04: Did you saw it?
• 1:39:12
  SPEAKER_04: You know what's crazy?
• 1:39:13
  SPEAKER_04: Look, here's the here's the here's the here's the crazier part.
• 1:39:15
  SPEAKER_04: She was butt-ass naked.
• 1:39:17
  SPEAKER_04: Butt ass naked in the bed, and I couldn't do it.
• 1:39:20
  SPEAKER_04: You didn't.
• 1:39:21
  SPEAKER_04: I couldn't do it.
• 1:39:22
  SPEAKER_07: Oh my god.
• 1:39:22
  SPEAKER_07: I could not do it.
• 1:39:24
  SPEAKER_04: And that's when I that's when I No, not even.
• 1:39:27
  SPEAKER_04: Not even.
• 1:39:28
  SPEAKER_07: Damn.
• 1:39:29
  SPEAKER_07: That's that's when I realized.
• 1:39:32
  SPEAKER_07: That's how they get so insecure.
• 1:39:34
  SPEAKER_04: Listen, that's the time that I realized that for sure I am a visual person.
• 1:39:38
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 1:39:39
  SPEAKER_04: I'm a person of visuals.
• 1:39:40
  SPEAKER_04: Like, it did not look like that in the clothes.
• 1:39:43
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 1:39:44
  SPEAKER_04: I did not think that it was gonna be that.
• 1:39:46
  SPEAKER_04: Like, especially because you didn't have no children.
• 1:39:48
  SPEAKER_04: You I don't remember her being big.
• 1:39:51
  SPEAKER_04: So I'm guessing teenagers at that time.
• 1:39:54
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, so it's like if you're 16, like, why am I dealing with someone that looks like they're postpartum?
• 1:39:59
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 1:40:00
  SPEAKER_04: Um, that that was a good one that was a good one, so I forgot about that one.
• 1:40:04
  SPEAKER_04: Treat them like a steak shadow.
• 1:40:06
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, extremely.
• 1:40:07
  SPEAKER_04: Um, and then there was this there was this one one one girl who I ghosted because she just could not give head for shit.
• 1:40:14
  SPEAKER_04: Um, I tried coaching her.
• 1:40:16
  SPEAKER_04: I tried coaching her along.
• 1:40:18
  SPEAKER_04: I don't think that's shallow.
• 1:40:19
  SPEAKER_04: But she just didn't want to like she didn't want to help herself, so like I'm like, you can't help me.
• 1:40:25
  SPEAKER_04: So I that was it.
• 1:40:27
  SPEAKER_04: Um then that's shallow.
• 1:40:29
  SPEAKER_04: I don't think it's shallow either, because that's just one of my prerequisites when it comes along.
• 1:40:33
  SPEAKER_05: If if you stop the whole act of sex because the partner licks a part of your body that's just define the part of you gotta say.
• 1:40:45
  SPEAKER_05: No, no, no.
• 1:40:46
  SPEAKER_06: I've heard the story.
• 1:40:48
  SPEAKER_05: No, no, no, no, no, no.
• 1:40:51
  SPEAKER_05: He just loves selling us.
• 1:40:52
  SPEAKER_05: I had a girl that licked my nipple and it turned me off, so I just called her like bye.
• 1:40:58
  SPEAKER_06: I'm I'm with the nipple shit.
• 1:41:00
  SPEAKER_06: I'm with the nipple shit.
• 1:41:00
  SPEAKER_06: But nah, it's whipped.
• 1:41:02
  SPEAKER_06: If it comes from a woman, it's not gay.
• 1:41:03
  SPEAKER_06: I love the nipple shit.
• 1:41:04
  SPEAKER_06: No, I was into it till it happened.
• 1:41:06
  SPEAKER_05: When I was younger, that shit.
• 1:41:07
  SPEAKER_04: He said, make the other one.
• 1:41:09
  SPEAKER_04: Make the other one just like this one.
• 1:41:12
  SPEAKER_06: Make the other one just like this one.
• 1:41:14
  SPEAKER_05: I was a young nigga, that shit just turned me off.
• 1:41:15
  SPEAKER_06: I had a girl make my nipple blue one and jerk it off, dude.
• 1:41:18
  SPEAKER_06: Yo, she had braces, nigga.
• 1:41:20
  SPEAKER_06: That bitch is biting them shits.
• 1:41:22
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I told her, like, yo, go to go to town.
• 1:41:24
  SPEAKER_06: And she went to town.
• 1:41:29
  SPEAKER_04: Um, so let's see.
• 1:41:30
  SPEAKER_04: There was feet, there was stretch marks, there was um she sucked that sucking dick.
• 1:41:36
  SPEAKER_04: Um sucked that sucking dick.
• 1:41:40
  SPEAKER_04: I told you, nigga.
• 1:41:40
  SPEAKER_04: I don't have a hundred, nigga.
• 1:41:42
  SPEAKER_04: I'm 32, motherfucker.
• 1:41:43
  SPEAKER_04: Like, I've cut off I've cut off a f uh a few for you know things that were shallow.
• 1:41:48
  SPEAKER_04: Listen, in my in my backsliding days.
• 1:41:52
  SPEAKER_05: That's why.
• 1:41:53
  SPEAKER_04: Fuck off.
• 1:41:54
  SPEAKER_04: Pass me some of that James thing.
• 1:41:56
  SPEAKER_04: It's about to get real.
• 1:41:58
  SPEAKER_04: Um, no, pass me some Jameson.
• 1:42:02
  SPEAKER_04: No, no, I'm I'm I'm serious.
• 1:42:04
  SPEAKER_04: We didn't have we didn't have drinks for my birthday last week, so uh what you call it?
• 1:42:09
  SPEAKER_04: No, I've I've I'm 32, bro.
• 1:42:11
  SPEAKER_04: I've had I've had a few scenarios as to where, you know, I just was in my backsliding days, I was a motherfucker, man.
• 1:42:17
  SPEAKER_04: I was still Yeah, I still am.
• 1:42:21
  SPEAKER_04: Um I got a question.
• 1:42:22
  SPEAKER_05: I got an answer.
• 1:42:24
  SPEAKER_04: You always have questions.
• 1:42:25
  SPEAKER_05: A woman a woman told me the other day, she's like, she feels like every guy's how old is this woman?
• 1:42:32
  SPEAKER_05: 28 or 29?
• 1:42:34
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, so she should have a couple, you know, relationships with her belt.
• 1:42:39
  SPEAKER_05: She told me every guy that she has dated or talked to seems to have the same or similar turn on spots.
• 1:42:47
  SPEAKER_05: Which is usually neck, air.
• 1:42:50
  SPEAKER_05: She said one of a place.
• 1:42:53
  SPEAKER_05: I think it was like yeah, I think she said like yeah, yeah, yeah, happy trail or something like that.
• 1:42:59
  SPEAKER_05: Niggas is gay.
• 1:43:02
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:43:02
  SPEAKER_05: So now my thing is down.
• 1:43:04
  SPEAKER_05: Do you feel like that's what I was about to say?
• 1:43:07
  SPEAKER_05: Do you feel like that's true?
• 1:43:10
  SPEAKER_04: Well, I mean certain it's it's it's it's not a mystery that certain areas on your body are just naturally more sensitive to things like that.
• 1:43:20
  SPEAKER_04: So those are erogus.
• 1:43:22
  SPEAKER_04: I've been in the club I've been in the club almost ready to freaking uh do damage on a dance floor because a chick sat there and was licking my ear or some stupid shit like that.
• 1:43:32
  SPEAKER_05: And it's like what causes that?
• 1:43:33
  SPEAKER_04: What causes what?
• 1:43:34
  SPEAKER_05: What causes that?
• 1:43:35
  SPEAKER_05: Like, is it like a lot of nerves in your ear or something?
• 1:43:37
  SPEAKER_05: Or like uh it's sexual.
• 1:43:40
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, those are just those are called erogenous zones.
• 1:43:43
  SPEAKER_07: There we go.
• 1:43:44
  SPEAKER_07: Erogynous zones.
• 1:43:47
  SPEAKER_07: So that's just stuff when t there's sensitive um areas in the body that causes sexual arousal.
• 1:43:53
  SPEAKER_06: Alright, my area is the duke.
• 1:43:56
  SPEAKER_06: Preferably in or around her mouth.
• 1:44:00
  SPEAKER_01: It's like a shocker point.
• 1:44:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:44:04
  SPEAKER_01: No, long long uh long story longer is a long one points where you have uh like your stronger pulse.
• 1:44:15
  SPEAKER_01: Your pulse, yeah.
• 1:44:24
  SPEAKER_05: I just wanted to know because I hate the fact that a woman could just do certain things and it's like stop, like you're making me walk around.
• 1:44:36
  SPEAKER_04: No, no, keep doing it.
• 1:44:38
  SPEAKER_06: Stop me and stop, ladies and gentlemen.
• 1:44:43
  SPEAKER_04: He too.
• 1:44:44
  SPEAKER_04: He too got me feel like I'm here right now.
• 1:44:48
  SPEAKER_04: But yeah, so going around a room, you're making me seem like I'm the most shallow motherfucker in you.
• 1:44:54
  SPEAKER_04: Well, nah, you you were the uh one that listen, I claim Yo, you can't deny that you were a fucking asshole.
• 1:45:02
  SPEAKER_04: Absolutely.
• 1:45:02
  SPEAKER_04: I don't deny it.
• 1:45:03
  SPEAKER_04: I embrace it.
• 1:45:04
  SPEAKER_04: Assholeism, hashtag assholeism was my fucking I believed that I coined that phrase years ago and I saw everybody else jump on jump on board when I coined that phrase.
• 1:45:15
  SPEAKER_01: I wouldn't discredit you for that because definitely like the main asshole I knew.
• 1:45:20
  SPEAKER_01: Like it made me feel mild.
• 1:45:23
  SPEAKER_05: I cut somebody up.
• 1:45:24
  SPEAKER_05: Thank you.
• 1:45:25
  SPEAKER_05: That's it.
• 1:45:25
  SPEAKER_05: You're welcome.
• 1:45:26
  SPEAKER_05: I actually cut somebody up because they flew out to see me and they're supposed to know what time it is.
• 1:45:31
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, future.
• 1:45:32
  SPEAKER_05: They acted like they didn't know what time it fucking was.
• 1:45:34
  SPEAKER_05: Rape culture.
• 1:45:34
  SPEAKER_05: How do you know?
• 1:45:36
  SPEAKER_05: Rape, how it's not rape culture.
• 1:45:41
  SPEAKER_05: You gotta defend it.
• 1:45:42
  SPEAKER_05: Well, future did it was.
• 1:45:44
  SPEAKER_05: We had multiple discussions of like, yeah, you know, whatever.
• 1:45:47
  SPEAKER_05: Niggas are gonna fuck.
• 1:45:48
  SPEAKER_05: And the woman has the right.
• 1:45:49
  SPEAKER_01: She flew out to see you and said, No, it just stupid.
• 1:45:53
  SPEAKER_06: Women don't have to be.
• 1:45:55
  SPEAKER_01: She didn't know what time it was as a phrase, like she didn't know that you were trying to fuck.
• 1:45:59
  SPEAKER_05: Uh women have the right to come out and told people Oh, he thought he was fucking like that's what they call gambles.
• 1:46:06
  SPEAKER_01: I don't do gambles.
• 1:46:07
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, women have the right.
• 1:46:08
  SPEAKER_01: I've been talking to you about uh guarantees versus uh estimated uh uh estimated statement.
• 1:46:15
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't gamble.
• 1:46:16
  SPEAKER_04: Did you cut gamble?
• 1:46:17
  SPEAKER_04: You come out here no longer, you pay for your own, but you paid for them to come out.
• 1:46:21
  SPEAKER_01: No, I didn't pay, but they flew out for the couple of yeah.
• 1:46:23
  SPEAKER_01: Furthermore, we expect so then you can.
• 1:46:26
  SPEAKER_07: But it's not a it's not a gamble for her because she said no to you.
• 1:46:30
  SPEAKER_06: She said no to you.
• 1:46:31
  SPEAKER_06: She paid for it.
• 1:46:32
  SPEAKER_06: It is a gamble because look, that's all right, nigga.
• 1:46:35
  SPEAKER_07: She probably it's a gamble that you might be a jerk.
• 1:46:38
  SPEAKER_07: You could have found someone else, bro.
• 1:46:39
  SPEAKER_07: You're in New York, she could have found someone else.
• 1:46:41
  SPEAKER_05: Factual.
• 1:46:42
  SPEAKER_05: But look, you flew out to see me.
• 1:46:43
  SPEAKER_05: Oh no, she fucked somebody else.
• 1:46:45
  SPEAKER_05: For real.
• 1:46:45
  SPEAKER_05: You flew out to see me.
• 1:46:46
  SPEAKER_05: Uh-oh.
• 1:46:46
  SPEAKER_05: Your whole trip went into shambles because I cut you off mid-trip.
• 1:46:50
  SPEAKER_05: And I still got a gift.
• 1:46:52
  SPEAKER_06: This guy's venting right now, by the way.
• 1:46:54
  SPEAKER_06: Where'd she fly out from?
• 1:46:55
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, man.
• 1:46:56
  SPEAKER_06: Nah, we ain't gonna be a little bit more.
• 1:46:58
  SPEAKER_07: You're both touchy because she said no.
• 1:47:00
  SPEAKER_07: Where'd she fly out from?
• 1:47:02
  SPEAKER_06: Really?
• 1:47:02
  SPEAKER_06: That's a fair question.
• 1:47:05
  SPEAKER_06: Piece of shit.
• 1:47:08
  SPEAKER_05: Oh no, not you.
• 1:47:10
  SPEAKER_05: You know, the evil partner.
• 1:47:11
  SPEAKER_05: That's what he's talking about.
• 1:47:12
  SPEAKER_05: A waste of my fucking time.
• 1:47:14
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, man.
• 1:47:15
  SPEAKER_07: Well, he's like, but again, she can be butt-naked on the bed and still has the right to say no.
• 1:47:19
  SPEAKER_05: Nah, she had the right to say no.
• 1:47:20
  SPEAKER_05: But don't expect it to go out.
• 1:47:23
  SPEAKER_07: But why did she say no?
• 1:47:24
  SPEAKER_04: Can any why are you asking me?
• 1:47:26
  SPEAKER_04: Can can any can any uh we have we have uh some guys in here?
• 1:47:30
  SPEAKER_04: Have any of you ever been on the opposite end of uh mental of uh just women's mental abuse towards men?
• 1:47:40
  SPEAKER_01: Oh man.
• 1:47:41
  SPEAKER_01: Hell yeah.
• 1:47:46
  SPEAKER_01: No, I'm just talking about uh like intersexual uh Yes.
• 1:47:49
  SPEAKER_05: You talked all this game about how you could make a nigga come, you could suck dick, you could do this, and then when it's the time, you just be like, You thought it was gonna happen?
• 1:47:58
  SPEAKER_06: Bitch, what the fuck you thought was gonna happen?
• 1:48:00
  SPEAKER_06: I think the first one everybody experiences is um the where to eat thing.
• 1:48:05
  SPEAKER_06: That is the worst one.
• 1:48:06
  SPEAKER_06: Honestly.
• 1:48:07
  SPEAKER_06: Elaborate?
• 1:48:08
  SPEAKER_06: Uh I'm hungry.
• 1:48:09
  SPEAKER_06: Um, okay.
• 1:48:11
  SPEAKER_06: What do you what do you want to eat?
• 1:48:12
  SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
• 1:48:12
  SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
• 1:48:13
  SPEAKER_06: Well they say where do you want to go?
• 1:48:14
  SPEAKER_06: Uh I want to go to um, you know, McDonald's.
• 1:48:17
  SPEAKER_06: I don't want McDonald's.
• 1:48:18
  SPEAKER_06: So what do you want?
• 1:48:19
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, uh, so then what do you want?
• 1:48:20
  SPEAKER_06: Well, I don't know.
• 1:48:21
  SPEAKER_06: And like your brain slowly, like, just oh my god.
• 1:48:26
  SPEAKER_06: Just thinking about this shit right now is driving me fucking nuts, bro.
• 1:48:28
  SPEAKER_05: Well, there's a slow and it's the last time they chose, they fucked up, so they don't want to fuck up again.
• 1:48:36
  SPEAKER_06: This is true.
• 1:48:36
  SPEAKER_06: Are you talking about the apple?
• 1:48:37
  SPEAKER_06: Yep.
• 1:48:38
  SPEAKER_06: Absolutely.
• 1:48:39
  SPEAKER_06: Absolutely.
• 1:48:40
  SPEAKER_06: Oh man.
• 1:48:41
  SPEAKER_01: I I feel that.
• 1:48:42
  SPEAKER_01: As a nigga said, it's inherently there, like, they don't even know it.
• 1:48:46
  SPEAKER_05: So just chip in and open up a restaurant.
• 1:48:48
  SPEAKER_05: Call, I don't know.
• 1:48:50
  SPEAKER_05: The next time they say I don't know, we're going here.
• 1:48:52
  SPEAKER_05: What do you want?
• 1:48:52
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
• 1:48:53
  SPEAKER_05: That's gonna be a meal right there.
• 1:48:54
  SPEAKER_05: You're gonna get whatever the fuck the random surprises.
• 1:48:56
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 1:48:57
  SPEAKER_05: Um, it's not a bad idea.
• 1:48:59
  SPEAKER_05: I'm tired of that shit.
• 1:49:01
  SPEAKER_06: I'm so tired of that shit.
• 1:49:02
  SPEAKER_06: It's just another reason why women um are the evil species.
• 1:49:06
  SPEAKER_05: Because then you know, you know what happened in that situation?
• 1:49:07
  SPEAKER_06: Mental manipulation is not fun.
• 1:49:08
  SPEAKER_05: You know what happens that situation?
• 1:49:10
  SPEAKER_05: Stop.
• 1:49:10
  SPEAKER_05: They'll be like, oh, go here.
• 1:49:13
  SPEAKER_05: And then you go to the eye.
• 1:49:14
  SPEAKER_05: I'm not evil.
• 1:49:14
  SPEAKER_05: Why do you give me that look?
• 1:49:17
  SPEAKER_06: You said you're not evil when these gave you a look.
• 1:49:19
  SPEAKER_06: I'm not evil.
• 1:49:19
  SPEAKER_07: That confirms everything that we need to know.
• 1:49:22
  SPEAKER_07: No, I have bitchy moments at time, but I'm not evil.
• 1:49:25
  SPEAKER_01: See, y'all have this uh this trait and knowing, just out of fucking random, just knowing what button buttons to put push on a male to get them straight over the edge.
• 1:49:37
  SPEAKER_01: And somewhere in your deep, dark, demented mind, you smile when we get to see you're laughing right now because you know.
• 1:49:45
  SPEAKER_07: Because that is not my goal.
• 1:49:47
  SPEAKER_07: My goal isn't to push you to the end.
• 1:49:50
  SPEAKER_01: I just get natural that you don't know, and that's scary.
• 1:49:53
  SPEAKER_05: You know what kills me?
• 1:49:54
  SPEAKER_07: Because I just get aggravated easily.
• 1:49:56
  SPEAKER_07: It depends.
• 1:49:57
  SPEAKER_07: Like, I could be just in a shitty mood and I can be easily aggravated.
• 1:50:00
  SPEAKER_07: Aggravated, but I'm not trying to push you over the edge.
• 1:50:04
  SPEAKER_05: And you know, you know is the worst is when you get to that point where you bug your fist like ah and then they smile and laugh like hey, I love you.
• 1:50:13
  SPEAKER_05: I have a question.
• 1:50:14
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so you just drove me to the wall, and then you just I know those types, those types are the ones I can't be with.
• 1:50:20
  SPEAKER_01: Because those are the types you end up having highway fights with, and it's all love.
• 1:50:24
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 1:50:24
  SPEAKER_01: Like, nah, I can't do that.
• 1:50:25
  SPEAKER_01: I can't have that shit in my life.
• 1:50:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, I can't do with that shit.
• 1:50:29
  SPEAKER_01: But KO Cho, I have a question for you.
• 1:50:31
  SPEAKER_01: When you see your significant other going through a point where you know they have a breaking point, what is it in uh the woman's species that y'all don't understand?
• 1:50:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yo, let me just chill out, even though I might be right right now, he's flipping out, let me just back off.
• 1:50:49
  SPEAKER_01: How come y'all don't what goes through your mind at that point?
• 1:50:52
  SPEAKER_01: Do you see that that going on?
• 1:50:55
  SPEAKER_01: Do you care or do you like to see the breaking point?
• 1:50:58
  SPEAKER_07: I don't think women like to see a breaking point.
• 1:51:01
  SPEAKER_07: It's just like we're in our own argument too.
• 1:51:03
  SPEAKER_07: Like, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:51:04
  SPEAKER_07: Like when you argue, you're not so focused on what the other person's saying.
• 1:51:07
  SPEAKER_07: You're more focused on what you have to let out and say.
• 1:51:10
  SPEAKER_07: So when you have a breaking point, like I'm not right now I'm just focusing on getting my words out.
• 1:51:16
  SPEAKER_07: I don't know you're at a breaking point because it could be just internal, but I don't really focus on what your actions are, I'd focus on what I'm saying.
• 1:51:25
  SPEAKER_05: What is it in a woman's species that as when a guy like let's say you're arguing and a guy walks away that y'all get more mad?
• 1:51:35
  SPEAKER_07: Because that's called being dismissive.
• 1:51:38
  SPEAKER_07: When you walk away, when you walk away during an argument, like you're dismissing her.
• 1:51:42
  SPEAKER_07: You're dismissing her.
• 1:51:43
  SPEAKER_05: I understand, but the reason why I'm walking away is because I'm at that point where it's like if you don't leave me the fuck alone, this whole relationship is done.
• 1:51:53
  SPEAKER_05: Or if you if you push me to that next button, what's gonna happen?
• 1:51:59
  SPEAKER_05: Your face or that wall.
• 1:52:02
  SPEAKER_05: Your face, excuse you, Chubbs.
• 1:52:05
  SPEAKER_01: He said when he gets to that point.
• 1:52:07
  SPEAKER_01: That's exactly that's exactly this is why I brought uh brought this up.
• 1:52:10
  SPEAKER_07: Because y'all don't under Y'all don't understand that breaking point with- but then you talk about women being more evil.
• 1:52:15
  SPEAKER_07: Right now you're talking about punching her.
• 1:52:16
  SPEAKER_07: No, it's not- What are y'all talking about?
• 1:52:18
  SPEAKER_07: Um punching her is like nigga, you sit in her face.
• 1:52:21
  SPEAKER_07: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I agree.
• 1:52:23
  SPEAKER_07: You think they're gonna be the face of the wall.
• 1:52:24
  SPEAKER_07: Like, get out of here.
• 1:52:25
  SPEAKER_07: If you want to hit me like that, nah, we're done right there.
• 1:52:28
  SPEAKER_07: Can I get it?
• 1:52:29
  SPEAKER_07: We're done right there.
• 1:52:29
  SPEAKER_07: If there's a threat of violence in any at any point, because I can be angry, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna be angry where I wanna hit the other thing.
• 1:52:36
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, but you can have a nice thing.
• 1:52:41
  SPEAKER_07: I'm saying to me personally.
• 1:52:42
  SPEAKER_07: We don't put it.
• 1:52:44
  SPEAKER_07: That's the difference in people.
• 1:52:45
  SPEAKER_07: Y'all don't understand that that men is.
• 1:52:46
  SPEAKER_07: Okay, but women are the more emotional.
• 1:52:48
  SPEAKER_07: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:52:48
  SPEAKER_07: Is you see you see how I'm saying right here, these stereotypes are a little off sometimes.
• 1:52:53
  SPEAKER_07: Because you're saying you can't control your emotions where you have to release it in the form of violence.
• 1:53:02
  SPEAKER_05: Hold on, bro.
• 1:53:03
  SPEAKER_05: I want to chase the black, but you don't want to answer.
• 1:53:05
  SPEAKER_06: That's how you can stand in the back, man.
• 1:53:06
  SPEAKER_06: Don't turn your back on a woman with a knife.
• 1:53:08
  SPEAKER_06: You bugging out.
• 1:53:09
  SPEAKER_06: No.
• 1:53:10
  SPEAKER_06: You good?
• 1:53:10
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:53:11
  SPEAKER_01: No, that's exactly what I'm talking about.
• 1:53:12
  SPEAKER_01: So what am I doing?
• 1:53:13
  SPEAKER_01: Excuse you, I've never stabbed anybody.
• 1:53:15
  SPEAKER_01: You guys understand body language.
• 1:53:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yet.
• 1:53:17
  SPEAKER_01: You guys understand body language, right?
• 1:53:19
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I know.
• 1:53:20
  SPEAKER_07: Why do we have to cater to you?
• 1:53:22
  SPEAKER_07: Like, you guys say to you too.
• 1:53:24
  SPEAKER_07: We're in this argument too.
• 1:53:25
  SPEAKER_07: Like, why don't you care to me and my argument?
• 1:53:27
  SPEAKER_07: Why don't you just sit down and shut up and listen?
• 1:53:29
  SPEAKER_01: No, because you don't stop.
• 1:53:30
  SPEAKER_07: All right then.
• 1:53:31
  SPEAKER_07: So then why do I have to be so too?
• 1:53:34
  SPEAKER_01: I'm explaining right now.
• 1:53:35
  SPEAKER_01: Because when a woman when a normally when the arguments happen, it's that uh the woman is repeating herself and not even getting anywhere with what she's saying, but repeating herself to the point where you can't say anything because she's not done repeating herself.
• 1:53:51
  SPEAKER_07: What the fuck is that admitted?
• 1:53:52
  SPEAKER_07: Just sit down and listen and not just listen and obviously let her vent.
• 1:53:58
  SPEAKER_07: Obviously let her vent.
• 1:54:01
  SPEAKER_07: You don't understand.
• 1:54:04
  SPEAKER_07: This is why we're not doing anything.
• 1:54:06
  SPEAKER_06: When you let a bitch fly, that's when you know you're doing it.
• 1:54:09
  SPEAKER_04: Yo, that's that is my thing.
• 1:54:11
  SPEAKER_04: I'd be like, I'm trying so hard not to call you a bitch right now.
• 1:54:15
  SPEAKER_06: Like, bitch, I don't want to call you a bitch.
• 1:54:17
  SPEAKER_06: That's the mark.
• 1:54:18
  SPEAKER_06: When you did that, that's when you know you're too bad.
• 1:54:20
  SPEAKER_06: This is this is a funny story.
• 1:54:21
  SPEAKER_07: I was in a Zara um fitting room, and this gay guy got into it with this black girl.
• 1:54:26
  SPEAKER_07: I don't know what happened beforehand, but he called her a bitch while she was leaving.
• 1:54:31
  SPEAKER_07: She came back swinging at him, and I'm like, Am I bra though?
• 1:54:34
  SPEAKER_07: Like, because she was like, she flew into that freaking fitting room.
• 1:54:37
  SPEAKER_07: He fought.
• 1:54:39
  SPEAKER_07: Zara.
• 1:54:39
  SPEAKER_04: The gay dude won't.
• 1:54:40
  SPEAKER_04: She probably got in trouble for hate crimes.
• 1:54:43
  SPEAKER_07: Nah, they let her leave.
• 1:54:44
  SPEAKER_07: She was young.
• 1:54:45
  SPEAKER_07: They just told her to get out the store.
• 1:54:48
  SPEAKER_04: They told him to take another exit.
• 1:54:50
  SPEAKER_04: That's one thing that I am not a fan of.
• 1:54:54
  SPEAKER_04: And, you know, doing security at spots, I see it all the time where I don't care if, you know, I understand that you get upset as a woman when the guy may disrespect you or whatever, but as long as he doesn't put his hands on you, there is no reason for a woman to jump in a man's face like she can't get beat down like she's a man.
• 1:55:16
  SPEAKER_07: No, I agree.
• 1:55:16
  SPEAKER_07: You shouldn't invade someone's face because then you're inviting you're inviting that reaction.
• 1:55:25
  SPEAKER_04: That makes the situation worse.
• 1:55:27
  SPEAKER_04: And that's one and that's and that's one and that's one of those.
• 1:55:30
  SPEAKER_07: I agree with his point.
• 1:55:31
  SPEAKER_07: Because you're still invading someone's face.
• 1:55:33
  SPEAKER_04: When they jump in their face, or even when they attack her.
• 1:55:36
  SPEAKER_04: When they attack first, when they when they you ain't shit.
• 1:55:41
  SPEAKER_04: He's doing his black woman moment over there.
• 1:55:43
  SPEAKER_04: Clearly.
• 1:55:43
  SPEAKER_04: When they touch you, they put their hands in your face, they're volatile, they're in your face, they won't let you fucking leave and turn around and like yo, get out of my face right now.
• 1:55:52
  SPEAKER_04: Or what, nigga?
• 1:55:54
  SPEAKER_04: What the fuck you gonna do?
• 1:55:55
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:55:56
  SPEAKER_04: POW Like in the trade.
• 1:55:59
  SPEAKER_04: And you see, my my thing with that is like, you know, right now, you're really putting yourself in a situation that I'm pretty sure any man who's in your life with common sense would tell you never to do.
• 1:56:16
  SPEAKER_04: I try to do that.
• 1:56:17
  SPEAKER_04: No, I try to do that.
• 1:56:18
  SPEAKER_04: I try to instill with that into all the women in my life.
• 1:56:22
  SPEAKER_04: Listen, as long as you're not touched or whatever, do not put yourself in the position for a man to treat you like a man.
• 1:56:33
  SPEAKER_04: Because you're gonna lose that fight, Tantra.
• 1:56:35
  SPEAKER_04: Every time.
• 1:56:36
  SPEAKER_04: I'm not winning that fight.
• 1:56:37
  SPEAKER_05: Every time.
• 1:56:38
  SPEAKER_05: As a man, I could say the worst is when they mush.
• 1:56:41
  SPEAKER_05: Mush your face.
• 1:56:42
  SPEAKER_05: Don't touch my face, period.
• 1:56:44
  SPEAKER_05: Don't touch my face.
• 1:56:45
  SPEAKER_04: Number one, don't touch me.
• 1:56:47
  SPEAKER_04: But definitely don't touch my fucking face.
• 1:56:49
  SPEAKER_04: The mush?
• 1:56:49
  SPEAKER_04: Nah, spin in my face.
• 1:56:50
  SPEAKER_05: But like when they take their two fingers, nah spin, yeah.
• 1:56:54
  SPEAKER_05: Put your forehead.
• 1:56:55
  SPEAKER_06: I'd rather that again spit in my face.
• 1:56:57
  SPEAKER_06: You spit on my face.
• 1:56:58
  SPEAKER_06: You spit my face in the middle.
• 1:56:59
  SPEAKER_07: I'm not that type of person that does that.
• 1:57:01
  SPEAKER_07: That will mush or.
• 1:57:02
  SPEAKER_05: That's like that's unquestionable.
• 1:57:04
  SPEAKER_05: Like at that point.
• 1:57:05
  SPEAKER_05: I will throw you in the dope fiend.
• 1:57:07
  SPEAKER_04: Like I'm not gonna hit you.
• 1:57:08
  SPEAKER_04: I'll throw you in the dope fiend.
• 1:57:10
  SPEAKER_04: That's it.
• 1:57:10
  SPEAKER_04: And joke you the fuck out.
• 1:57:12
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, spit is nothing to be playing with, though.
• 1:57:13
  SPEAKER_04: That is something like that.
• 1:57:14
  SPEAKER_04: She spat on me.
• 1:57:15
  SPEAKER_04: I felt I was in danger.
• 1:57:20
  SPEAKER_06: That's my defense.
• 1:57:21
  SPEAKER_06: That's that's a talk.
• 1:57:22
  SPEAKER_06: That's a poison.
• 1:57:23
  SPEAKER_06: That's hella disrespect.
• 1:57:26
  SPEAKER_06: You got it?
• 1:57:27
  SPEAKER_05: You probably should be mush.
• 1:57:29
  SPEAKER_06: What was that annoying?
• 1:57:32
  SPEAKER_06: You sound like a goddamn donkey.
• 1:57:34
  SPEAKER_07: It seems like you're dating the same women over and over again.
• 1:57:37
  SPEAKER_06: It's the same woman.
• 1:57:38
  SPEAKER_07: It's the same one.
• 1:57:39
  SPEAKER_06: I don't know if it's me, but it seems like it's a good thing.
• 1:57:43
  SPEAKER_06: He's a better, he's a better than a housewife.
• 1:57:45
  SPEAKER_06: You gotta let the Caribbean woman go.
• 1:57:48
  SPEAKER_06: The shit he's gonna do would not be a good one.
• 1:57:49
  SPEAKER_07: It's just sometimes you gotta let you sometimes you just witness your situation.
• 1:57:53
  SPEAKER_05: Y'all got code words.
• 1:57:55
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 1:57:55
  SPEAKER_05: That shit.
• 1:57:56
  SPEAKER_05: Who you think invented those code words?
• 1:57:57
  SPEAKER_05: I invented those two words.
• 1:58:02
  SPEAKER_05: Nigga said one word.
• 1:58:03
  SPEAKER_05: Both people stop.
• 1:58:04
  SPEAKER_05: I'm like, wait, what the fuck you gotta do?
• 1:58:06
  SPEAKER_05: We got code words.
• 1:58:07
  SPEAKER_05: We got code words.
• 1:58:07
  SPEAKER_05: Once that word is said, you know it's over.
• 1:58:09
  SPEAKER_05: Those are alpha codes.
• 1:58:10
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 1:58:11
  SPEAKER_04: You get you get those at birth.
• 1:58:13
  SPEAKER_04: That handbook is you're born with that handbook.
• 1:58:14
  SPEAKER_01: I understand that that body language, man.
• 1:58:16
  SPEAKER_01: That's that's important.
• 1:58:17
  SPEAKER_01: It's crucial.
• 1:58:18
  SPEAKER_01: Now I agree with that mush and shit.
• 1:58:20
  SPEAKER_01: Don't touch me in the face, nowhere near my face.
• 1:58:21
  SPEAKER_01: Don't play, don't, don't play slap me, none of that shit in my face.
• 1:58:24
  SPEAKER_01: Unless you really want to argue or fight.
• 1:58:27
  SPEAKER_01: Because that's what's gonna happen.
• 1:58:29
  SPEAKER_01: I'd just rather not.
• 1:58:30
  SPEAKER_01: There's only a couple people that naturally my body won't respond to a hit in the face.
• 1:58:35
  SPEAKER_01: And if they're not present, don't hit me in my face.
• 1:58:37
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 1:58:37
  SPEAKER_01: My my parents.
• 1:58:38
  SPEAKER_01: Probably the only people.
• 1:58:40
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 1:58:40
  SPEAKER_01: There's just a natural response.
• 1:58:42
  SPEAKER_04: My daddy dead, and my mother ain't gonna put her hands in my face because you know she she takes she takes pride in the beautiful face that she helped create.
• 1:58:50
  SPEAKER_04: So she ain't gonna do those type of things.
• 1:58:52
  SPEAKER_04: But if my parents don't do that, who the fuck is anybody else to attempt?
• 1:58:56
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 1:58:57
  SPEAKER_04: To attempt.
• 1:58:57
  SPEAKER_04: And not for nothing, I do not advocate putting hands on women.
• 1:59:01
  SPEAKER_04: Never.
• 1:59:01
  SPEAKER_07: Never but you're allowed to restream that if you're gonna be able to do that.
• 1:59:04
  SPEAKER_04: If you do something, if you know, if you put your hand in my face to a to a degree that I'm not a woman to do it, you're gonna get you're gonna get your shit parked.
• 1:59:13
  SPEAKER_04: That's it.
• 1:59:14
  SPEAKER_05: I I'm ASAP something.
• 1:59:16
  SPEAKER_04: Now call who you want to call.
• 1:59:17
  SPEAKER_05: Ace that says something, and I'm gonna go back to the city.
• 1:59:20
  SPEAKER_05: Call who you want to call.
• 1:59:21
  SPEAKER_05: Call your bitch ass brother.
• 1:59:22
  SPEAKER_04: Call him.
• 1:59:23
  SPEAKER_05: There's one thing that spit in his face, too.
• 1:59:26
  SPEAKER_05: A man that was in my life, you know, a family member taught me.
• 1:59:29
  SPEAKER_04: I'm glad you said a family member, because you're a man that was my life.
• 1:59:32
  SPEAKER_05: You know he was coming out.
• 1:59:33
  SPEAKER_05: Coming out the closet for a minute.
• 1:59:35
  SPEAKER_06: I'm about to shut the laptop down, but bro.
• 1:59:37
  SPEAKER_06: You don't want to do this right now.
• 1:59:38
  SPEAKER_05: If that is gas money, ladies and gentlemen.
• 1:59:41
  SPEAKER_05: If you're in an argument and you know, you act, you know, try to be cute, and then you put your finger on her cheek and just be like, uhw, but you push and twist.
• 1:59:50
  SPEAKER_05: It leaves no marks.
• 1:59:51
  SPEAKER_05: There's a lot of salt in your life, brother.
• 1:59:53
  SPEAKER_05: Her cheek gets cut, she'll be pissed off, she knows about the fuck with you.
• 1:59:57
  SPEAKER_04: That's some real Caribbean shit right here.
• 1:59:58
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, she can never call a cop because I have a better one.
• 2:00:02
  SPEAKER_04: Just stomp on her fucking foot.
• 2:00:04
  SPEAKER_04: As hard as you can.
• 2:00:05
  SPEAKER_04: Just stomp on her fucking foot.
• 2:00:07
  SPEAKER_04: So, in case you want to stay out of trouble.
• 2:00:10
  SPEAKER_04: Hey, call the cops.
• 2:00:10
  SPEAKER_04: What you gonna tell them I did?
• 2:00:12
  SPEAKER_04: Stomped on your foot?
• 2:00:12
  SPEAKER_04: Ooh.
• 2:00:15
  SPEAKER_06: It's an accident.
• 2:00:16
  SPEAKER_06: It was dancing.
• 2:00:17
  SPEAKER_06: It's an accident.
• 2:00:17
  SPEAKER_06: I wear Tim's.
• 2:00:18
  SPEAKER_06: She wouldn't get out of my fucking way.
• 2:00:21
  SPEAKER_06: Put her makeup, all her makeup in the toilet.
• 2:00:23
  SPEAKER_06: Oh no, you want to fight.
• 2:00:24
  SPEAKER_06: That's what you want to happen.
• 2:00:25
  SPEAKER_06: That makeup shit is expensive, though.
• 2:00:27
  SPEAKER_07: You have some very dysfunctional relationships, this guy.
• 2:00:30
  SPEAKER_06: You're telling a lot of your.
• 2:00:31
  SPEAKER_07: You have very dysfunctional relationships.
• 2:00:33
  SPEAKER_05: I got my sneakers burnt.
• 2:00:35
  SPEAKER_05: Nah, none of us.
• 2:00:37
  SPEAKER_07: You see, it's like what's going on, Chubbs, in your relationship working.
• 2:00:42
  SPEAKER_05: Please, like, who are you dating, but also I pushed that button, I'm not gonna lie.
• 2:00:46
  SPEAKER_05: No, that's what I'm saying.
• 2:00:47
  SPEAKER_05: It takes two.
• 2:00:47
  SPEAKER_05: It takes two.
• 2:00:48
  SPEAKER_05: Nah, in in that situation, I did push a button because I got caught.
• 2:00:52
  SPEAKER_05: And then I got asked questions, and I said no.
• 2:00:55
  SPEAKER_05: Next year.
• 2:00:56
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, so you're not black.
• 2:00:56
  SPEAKER_06: Well, we knew you weren't black.
• 2:00:57
  SPEAKER_05: That door got open.
• 2:00:58
  SPEAKER_05: Nigga Darius.
• 2:00:59
  SPEAKER_05: And it was a big thing.
• 2:01:01
  SPEAKER_07: It's a cheat, exactly.
• 2:01:02
  SPEAKER_07: On this podcast.
• 2:01:03
  SPEAKER_06: No, he's not black.
• 2:01:04
  SPEAKER_04: But we said he's not black since day one.
• 2:01:06
  SPEAKER_04: I'm white in Dominican.
• 2:01:08
  SPEAKER_04: Actually, no, we've referred to him as a West Indian woman, so it doesn't really count.
• 2:01:11
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it's not the same thing.
• 2:01:12
  SPEAKER_06: But like I said.
• 2:01:13
  SPEAKER_06: Black men don't cheat.
• 2:01:14
  SPEAKER_06: Black women cheat rampantly.
• 2:01:15
  SPEAKER_06: There's a difference.
• 2:01:16
  SPEAKER_06: And I don't cheat.
• 2:01:19
  SPEAKER_06: I don't cheat.
• 2:01:19
  SPEAKER_06: You got caught doing what?
• 2:01:21
  SPEAKER_07: So what did you get caught doing?
• 2:01:22
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, cheating.
• 2:01:23
  SPEAKER_06: I didn't cheat.
• 2:01:23
  SPEAKER_06: So right.
• 2:01:24
  SPEAKER_06: You're a women.
• 2:01:25
  SPEAKER_06: You were cheating a trick.
• 2:01:27
  SPEAKER_07: We had a whole conversation about you having a side check.
• 2:01:32
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
• 2:01:33
  SPEAKER_06: You lost.
• 2:01:34
  SPEAKER_06: Circle gets to square.
• 2:01:35
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I'm just so glad you don't represent the black man delegation.
• 2:01:39
  SPEAKER_06: You're the white West Indian women beta male delegation.
• 2:01:44
  SPEAKER_06: Those are your uh denominations, name.
• 2:01:45
  SPEAKER_06: Damn.
• 2:01:46
  SPEAKER_05: That shit you wish you had.
• 2:01:47
  SPEAKER_05: Your hashtags.
• 2:01:48
  SPEAKER_05: I watched shit get cut, and I just did what I did.
• 2:01:50
  SPEAKER_05: Toast the makeup in the garbage.
• 2:01:52
  SPEAKER_05: Fuck you.
• 2:01:53
  SPEAKER_07: Geez.
• 2:01:53
  SPEAKER_04: Shouts to Ace for just making me realize how much of an asshole I was in my backsliding days, you know.
• 2:01:59
  SPEAKER_05: I ain't get that far.
• 2:01:59
  SPEAKER_05: I ain't cut them off because of stretch marks.
• 2:02:05
  SPEAKER_05: You know the grill marks on a burger?
• 2:02:06
  SPEAKER_05: That's why I look at them ass.
• 2:02:09
  SPEAKER_06: That is fat.
• 2:02:10
  SPEAKER_05: Wow.
• 2:02:11
  SPEAKER_05: That's how you look at stretch marks?
• 2:02:12
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 2:02:13
  SPEAKER_05: That is pretty fat.
• 2:02:13
  SPEAKER_05: You know, a burger when it's on the grill gotta have the perfect grill marks.
• 2:02:17
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 2:02:17
  SPEAKER_05: So you just look at them on the back.
• 2:02:18
  SPEAKER_05: I'm sorry, sir.
• 2:02:19
  SPEAKER_04: So you don't I don't I don't um They don't turn you off.
• 2:02:22
  SPEAKER_05: Nah, I love hefty women.
• 2:02:23
  SPEAKER_05: I'm a pescatario.
• 2:02:24
  SPEAKER_06: I fun with hefty woman.
• 2:02:25
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 2:02:25
  SPEAKER_05: I test my strength.
• 2:02:26
  SPEAKER_05: You are a hefty woman.
• 2:02:28
  SPEAKER_06: Nah, you are a hefty woman.
• 2:02:30
  SPEAKER_06: That is fucking jokes.
• 2:02:32
  SPEAKER_06: Jesus Christ.
• 2:02:33
  SPEAKER_05: I like my woman chunky.
• 2:02:34
  SPEAKER_06: Damn, are you ever gonna change like your persona?
• 2:02:36
  SPEAKER_06: Or are you just gonna go full?
• 2:02:37
  SPEAKER_06: Like, you're just gonna go down with the ship.
• 2:02:39
  SPEAKER_05: Nigga, I am who I am.
• 2:02:41
  SPEAKER_06: I don't know if I'm gonna be.
• 2:02:42
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, be proud, be proud.
• 2:02:43
  SPEAKER_06: I don't know if that's the same.
• 2:02:44
  SPEAKER_07: Stop bragging on him.
• 2:02:45
  SPEAKER_07: Be proud.
• 2:02:46
  SPEAKER_04: Nah, man.
• 2:02:47
  SPEAKER_04: That's not the issue.
• 2:02:48
  SPEAKER_04: Chubbs is my dude, man.
• 2:02:49
  SPEAKER_04: Like I said, he showed up with four women last night.
• 2:02:51
  SPEAKER_04: I can't I can't talk shit.
• 2:02:53
  SPEAKER_05: For real?
• 2:02:54
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, too too young, too old.
• 2:02:56
  SPEAKER_04: I was like, okay.
• 2:02:57
  SPEAKER_05: Yo, man, damn my damn friend.
• 2:03:03
  SPEAKER_05: Wait, damn.
• 2:03:04
  SPEAKER_05: I can't even see that.
• 2:03:04
  SPEAKER_04: Don't no, don't even, don't start, don't start.
• 2:03:06
  SPEAKER_04: Just know the family.
• 2:03:07
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know which one was.
• 2:03:08
  SPEAKER_04: Well, two of them was grinding on me on their way out the door.
• 2:03:12
  SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah, I remember that.
• 2:03:13
  SPEAKER_05: I had to say, I was like, listen, man.
• 2:03:15
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you guys are embarrassing me right now.
• 2:03:17
  SPEAKER_05: Cause the whole line on the goddamn stair.
• 2:03:20
  SPEAKER_04: But it's but it's but it's cool.
• 2:03:21
  SPEAKER_04: You know, it's cool being security at the spot because it's like, nigga, don't nobody fuck with me.
• 2:03:25
  SPEAKER_04: Don't nobody ask me.
• 2:03:26
  SPEAKER_04: Like, I can pretty much do anything I fucking want.
• 2:03:30
  SPEAKER_05: I was like, whoa.
• 2:03:31
  SPEAKER_05: This is new.
• 2:03:32
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, nah, that definitely uh sometimes you gotta enforce it because you know upstairs when it gets packed like that, like you just coach all over the place.
• 2:03:39
  SPEAKER_04: It's not a good look.
• 2:03:41
  SPEAKER_06: So well um do you guys want to talk about sports before we rap?
• 2:03:46
  SPEAKER_06: Sure, we can get into sports.
• 2:03:47
  SPEAKER_06: End on a good way.
• 2:03:49
  SPEAKER_06: Alright, so I was having this debate in my group chat.
• 2:03:52
  SPEAKER_06: And that's the debate.
• 2:03:53
  SPEAKER_06: And um are you guys uh familiar with James Harden has been currently doing in the NBA?
• 2:04:00
  SPEAKER_06: Absolutely.
• 2:04:00
  SPEAKER_06: Okay Um, so the argument came up.
• 2:04:03
  SPEAKER_06: Um, is James Harden a better scorer than Kobe Bean Bryant?
• 2:04:08
  SPEAKER_05: And I'm glad I didn't answer because I can finally answer that.
• 2:04:11
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 2:04:12
  SPEAKER_06: Take the floor.
• 2:04:13
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 2:04:14
  SPEAKER_05: When it comes down to the score.
• 2:04:17
  SPEAKER_06: Remember, this is the first argument.
• 2:04:18
  SPEAKER_05: Creativity to score, I give it to Harden.
• 2:04:21
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 2:04:22
  SPEAKER_05: When it comes down to just who I'm going to to score when I need, I'm going to go to the city.
• 2:04:27
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 2:04:27
  SPEAKER_06: Um ready having a bit.
• 2:04:30
  SPEAKER_04: I do not think that Harden is a better scorer than Kobe Bryant.
• 2:04:36
  SPEAKER_04: Only because of statistics as far as shooting efficiency.
• 2:04:40
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 2:04:41
  SPEAKER_04: Um now Kobe did also have to take a lot of shots, but I feel that he's a little bit more efficient than James Harden.
• 2:04:51
  SPEAKER_04: Um, and that's that's just going off the memory bank side.
• 2:04:55
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, of course.
• 2:04:55
  SPEAKER_04: We're not doing that.
• 2:04:56
  SPEAKER_04: I haven't looked at I haven't looked at a stat book um to cuff.
• 2:05:01
  SPEAKER_06: You just hear that word cuck in the brain.
• 2:05:04
  SPEAKER_04: Ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding Uh but no, yeah, I'm gonna say just you know, off the off the top of my head, I'm gonna go with uh Kobe Bryant being a better scorer.
• 2:05:12
  SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna go with Kobe Bryant being a better naturally gifted athlete who can score or make um plays.
• 2:05:22
  SPEAKER_04: Make make make adjustments in his game to score.
• 2:05:24
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 2:05:24
  SPEAKER_04: Because I think, you know, his injuries and his Achilles tear and all of that stuff are just uh, you know, that I think that just pretty much cements my statement as far as him being able to adapt and still score.
• 2:05:38
  SPEAKER_06: Alright.
• 2:05:39
  SPEAKER_06: Um I'm gonna go with uh Harden, and the reason I'm gonna pick Harden as the better scorer is because Um The mid-range shot is the least efficient shot, inefficient shot in basketball.
• 2:05:53
  SPEAKER_06: It it's the worst shot you can take is a mid-range because just a couple more feet of three-pointer points, or you get to the rim, which is a higher percentage shot than a mid-range shot.
• 2:06:03
  SPEAKER_06: And the only facet I think that Kobe is better than outside of just pure athleticism is mid-range over Harden.
• 2:06:10
  SPEAKER_06: So I think Harden's a better three-point shooter than uh Kobe.
• 2:06:13
  SPEAKER_06: I think he's a better free throw shooter than Kobe, and he gets to the line more efficiently.
• 2:06:16
  SPEAKER_06: So you can make the argument.
• 2:06:17
  SPEAKER_04: This season he's been getting to the line like a motherfucker.
• 2:06:19
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that's his shit.
• 2:06:20
  SPEAKER_06: And he's been he's been allowed to travel.
• 2:06:22
  SPEAKER_06: I think Kobe has better footwork, like he's a more superior player.
• 2:06:25
  SPEAKER_06: Absolutely think that.
• 2:06:26
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, the it's like they're actually, I'm like looking at the stats now, they're actually pretty close to each other in stats.
• 2:06:32
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 2:06:32
  SPEAKER_07: He is, but James Harden does have um beat Kobe in three-point and free throw.
• 2:06:37
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that's those are the two.
• 2:06:38
  SPEAKER_06: A tiny, tiny bit.
• 2:06:39
  SPEAKER_06: Those are the two stats that I would give James Harden that's gonna be.
• 2:06:41
  SPEAKER_07: And then Kobe has fuel go by a tiny bit.
• 2:06:43
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I I I think that's the difference.
• 2:06:45
  SPEAKER_06: And that's what Red was saying.
• 2:06:46
  SPEAKER_06: Like he thinks that he's more efficient overall.
• 2:06:47
  SPEAKER_06: Right.
• 2:06:48
  SPEAKER_06: But I just think if we look at efficiency, we gotta look a little bit closer because if I'm taking a mid-range shot that's getting me two points, versus a three-point shot that's getting me three, I prefer the three-point shot.
• 2:06:57
  SPEAKER_04: Let's also talk about how he's uh he's fucking banking 20 plus points a night off of free throws.
• 2:07:02
  SPEAKER_04: Just free throws.
• 2:07:03
  SPEAKER_04: Just free throws.
• 2:07:04
  SPEAKER_04: That saves his body.
• 2:07:07
  SPEAKER_04: He's getting to the basket, he's drawing these fouls.
• 2:07:09
  SPEAKER_04: And I think it's pretty much safe to say that the that the refs are just giving this guy fouls.
• 2:07:14
  SPEAKER_04: Like he's not necessarily earning all of these fouls.
• 2:07:18
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, he's really crafty.
• 2:07:19
  SPEAKER_04: No, no, no.
• 2:07:20
  SPEAKER_04: That that's what I give him.
• 2:07:21
  SPEAKER_04: He's he's he's crafty, but I'm just saying, like, they're also giving him a lot of these calls.
• 2:07:25
  SPEAKER_06: I think he's earning a lot of them as well.
• 2:07:28
  SPEAKER_06: I think it's it's it's you can make the argument for either one.
• 2:07:31
  SPEAKER_06: Um, the only thing I think the referees are really allowing him to get away with is traveling.
• 2:07:35
  SPEAKER_06: Like he really has the license to travel.
• 2:07:38
  SPEAKER_06: Like Steph Curry, who's a bigger star than him, actually had a uh issue with an official because he did the same move that Harden did in the ref called travel, and Steph literally threw up James Harden's jersey number, like, bro, oh, I'm not number 13.
• 2:07:52
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, so like the that shit just goes to show that not only uh not only does his contemporaries notice that you know this dude is getting away with traveling, and that's what people give Kobe like props for.
• 2:08:01
  SPEAKER_06: When Kobe won his championship, he actually went to Hakeem Elijah Wan and worked on his footwork so he could get another, you know, fluidity fluidity and uh asset to his game, as opposed to most people that they lose, and then that's when they want to get better at their footwork or etc.
• 2:08:15
  SPEAKER_02: That's right, but but you also gotta realize too.
• 2:08:17
  SPEAKER_04: Well, I know you said just going off of scoring and nothing else.
• 2:08:20
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, the score.
• 2:08:22
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, Kobe shows up in the playoffs.
• 2:08:24
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, James Harden don't.
• 2:08:26
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, that's fair.
• 2:08:27
  SPEAKER_04: Like a lot of these season, you know, season numbers and stuff like that, he disappears in the playoffs.
• 2:08:33
  SPEAKER_07: Okay, so here, playoff stats.
• 2:08:35
  SPEAKER_07: Um Kobe, um 25.6, James 22, and on everything else, they're pretty much equal besides uh James has better assists.
• 2:08:43
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I thinkoffs.
• 2:08:44
  SPEAKER_07: These are playoffs.
• 2:08:47
  SPEAKER_07: These are playoff stats.
• 2:08:47
  SPEAKER_07: I know that for a fact.
• 2:08:49
  SPEAKER_07: And regular and regular season, he's only down by like a point to Kobe.
• 2:08:53
  SPEAKER_05: Didn't he go ghost just now in that final?
• 2:08:57
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that's the point.
• 2:08:57
  SPEAKER_06: Kobe is higher than him in the playoffs.
• 2:08:59
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but she said not by a full margin.
• 2:09:01
  SPEAKER_06: No, she did.
• 2:09:02
  SPEAKER_06: It was twenty-five to twenty-two.
• 2:09:03
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 2:09:05
  SPEAKER_03: You also gotta realize how many seasons Kobe played.
• 2:09:09
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, twenty versus ten, so he still has another ten to let's just say in the next ten years can he actually keep those numbers up.
• 2:09:16
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, true.
• 2:09:18
  SPEAKER_06: But as as as far as players go, I don't think it's even a fair comparison.
• 2:09:22
  SPEAKER_06: It's Kobe Bryant.
• 2:09:23
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it's Kobe Bryant.
• 2:09:24
  SPEAKER_05: I feel like that that post-up turnaround.
• 2:09:27
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, like uh James Harden doesn't have really he stole that shit from Jordan, of course.
• 2:09:32
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, he's he's a he's a carbon copy.
• 2:09:34
  SPEAKER_06: I think somebody said that recently.
• 2:09:35
  SPEAKER_06: I think it was Shannon Sharp who said that LeBron James is an original player and Kobe's a carbon copy of Michael Jordan, so that's why he gives a nod to LeBron James.
• 2:09:44
  SPEAKER_02: It's funny because they asked Michael who can beat you in one-on-one.
• 2:09:47
  SPEAKER_02: He was like, probably Kobe, because he's the one who stole all my movies.
• 2:09:57
  SPEAKER_06: Uh somebody encroaching on his legacy.
• 2:10:00
  SPEAKER_02: LeBron can't LeBron can't can't um get it.
• 2:10:04
  SPEAKER_04: Here we go.
• 2:10:08
  SPEAKER_04: LeBron will not be able to replicate Jordan's legacy and what he did.
• 2:10:13
  SPEAKER_06: I didn't say he's gonna replicate it.
• 2:10:16
  SPEAKER_06: Surpass it.
• 2:10:19
  SPEAKER_04: Listen, he can surpass him on numbers and stuff, but once again, the fashion in which Jordan did it, it's just not gonna happen.
• 2:10:26
  SPEAKER_06: Um is longevity a stat for you?
• 2:10:30
  SPEAKER_06: If a player is able to play for a very long time at a high level, do you do you give any credit to that?
• 2:10:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I give credit to it.
• 2:10:36
  SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm gonna give I'm gonna give LeBron his credit, but I'm still seasons than like I said, right now he has he's continuing to build Jordan games.
• 2:10:48
  SPEAKER_04: Jordan played 15 seasons.
• 2:10:50
  SPEAKER_04: Same amount of all-star games and was washed.
• 2:10:52
  SPEAKER_06: If LeBron had retired how many years before he came back for those two years?
• 2:10:57
  SPEAKER_06: No, the retirement should actually save his body.
• 2:10:59
  SPEAKER_06: He should have been able to play longer.
• 2:11:00
  SPEAKER_06: But what I'm saying retired.
• 2:11:02
  SPEAKER_04: But what I'm saying is But what I'm saying is if Jordan would have just like stopped after those 13 seasons or whatever the case was, like, there's no way that LeBron is matching anything that Jordan did in 13 seasons.
• 2:11:17
  SPEAKER_06: But you're comparing that's why I mentioned longevity.
• 2:11:20
  SPEAKER_04: I understand that, but what I'm saying, what I'm saying is like, yeah, longevity is great, great, cool, you have longevity.
• 2:11:26
  SPEAKER_04: You can have all the stats in the world, but you're still not gonna be better than Jordan.
• 2:11:29
  SPEAKER_04: Based on what metric.
• 2:11:31
  SPEAKER_04: I just gave you the metric the metric.
• 2:11:33
  SPEAKER_04: Like I said, bro, anybody anybody, the fashion he did it in.
• 2:11:38
  SPEAKER_04: Does the six and oh?
• 2:11:40
  SPEAKER_04: Six and oh two dynasties, never left a team.
• 2:11:44
  SPEAKER_06: I don't see how those things really the only one I would give you is the six and oh thing, which is pretty cool.
• 2:11:49
  SPEAKER_06: But LeBron has six losses in the finals.
• 2:11:51
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, that's cool, but if LeBron has been to the finals more times, accrediting losing in the first round.
• 2:11:58
  SPEAKER_04: Guess what, bro?
• 2:11:58
  SPEAKER_04: You went to the big And like I said, you didn't make it.
• 2:12:01
  SPEAKER_04: It was football.
• 2:12:02
  SPEAKER_04: I don't give hold on.
• 2:12:03
  SPEAKER_04: Like I said, the main argument is this, and I could give a fuck less about what any LeBron fan being objective or being otherwise has to say.
• 2:12:13
  SPEAKER_04: Jordan won a championship.
• 2:12:15
  SPEAKER_04: It took him seven seasons.
• 2:12:16
  SPEAKER_04: LeBron, it took him nine seasons.
• 2:12:19
  SPEAKER_04: LeBron fucking came out of fucking fresh out of high school and he's still fucking trying to chase the ghost in Chicago.
• 2:12:26
  SPEAKER_04: So I don't want to talk about it.
• 2:12:28
  SPEAKER_06: Jordan went to college and got seasoning on how to play basketball.
• 2:12:32
  SPEAKER_06: This is a high school kid in the NBA.
• 2:12:34
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so now we're gonna fucking sit here with these excuses.
• 2:12:37
  SPEAKER_07: No, it's not excuses, it's reality.
• 2:12:39
  SPEAKER_07: Because again, he's saying you want to pick and choose the stats, but when he's giving you other stats, you're saying that that's not important.
• 2:12:45
  SPEAKER_06: You're talking about the person's college a hindrance or a plus?
• 2:12:48
  SPEAKER_06: That's what I'm asking.
• 2:12:50
  SPEAKER_04: Do I gain or lose by going to college?
• 2:12:52
  SPEAKER_04: It depends.
• 2:12:53
  SPEAKER_04: But the thing is when you come straight out of college and you're and you're being deemed as the next person and you're gonna be the next Jordan and so forth and so on, and you don't necessarily live up to Jordan mechanics or certain finals.
• 2:13:07
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I don't care if he got to the without an all-star on his team.
• 2:13:09
  SPEAKER_04: Jordan never did that.
• 2:13:10
  SPEAKER_01: I don't care.
• 2:13:11
  SPEAKER_04: Also, Jordan never had Jordan also never got swept twice in the finals.
• 2:13:20
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just saying that it's just things that things that he had to deal with in his field of play.
• 2:13:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's not an accolade, though.
• 2:13:26
  SPEAKER_01: They say he spent 1.5 million on just treatment to recuperate recovery.
• 2:13:30
  SPEAKER_06: That's that's not LeBron's like you can't use it as a knock against him, though, really.
• 2:13:34
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'm just saying it's a it makes it a lot easier when you you're having um joint rejuvenation.
• 2:13:39
  SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, that's smart.
• 2:13:41
  SPEAKER_01: It's it also wasn't able to have a lot of people.
• 2:13:49
  SPEAKER_06: Same thing.
• 2:13:50
  SPEAKER_06: Same word.
• 2:13:51
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just saying.
• 2:13:51
  SPEAKER_01: Nah, like that's sort of the reason why Jordan couldn't excel further when he came back out of retirement as um uh LeBron James has been.
• 2:13:59
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I mean, I think we all can I think we all can sit here and just agree with the fact that Jordan that Jordan never really took care of himself the way that LeBron has taken care of himself.
• 2:14:08
  SPEAKER_06: But you're using that as a knock on LeBron's legacy.
• 2:14:10
  SPEAKER_06: That's what it sounds like.
• 2:14:11
  SPEAKER_06: What am I because you're attributing to oh if Jordan were to take care of himself?
• 2:14:15
  SPEAKER_06: No, no, I'm not LeBron's fault.
• 2:14:17
  SPEAKER_04: I'm just to saying that to clarify, you know, back and forth or whatever.
• 2:14:21
  SPEAKER_04: Jordan never took care of himself.
• 2:14:24
  SPEAKER_04: He never took care of his self the way that LeBron does, so that's actually an attribute that I give to LeBron.
• 2:14:31
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, I just want to know what college means.
• 2:14:34
  SPEAKER_06: Because I hear that argument brought up a lot.
• 2:14:35
  SPEAKER_06: Is it a negative or a positive thing?
• 2:14:38
  SPEAKER_06: Um, I mean it depends on in this specific argument.
• 2:14:41
  SPEAKER_06: What does it mean?
• 2:14:42
  SPEAKER_06: Jordan going to college makes it what harder or easier for him to win a championship?
• 2:14:46
  SPEAKER_06: Because that's the metric.
• 2:14:48
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, hey, to me, it makes it easier.
• 2:14:50
  SPEAKER_02: One one would one would never really know.
• 2:14:54
  SPEAKER_01: In this situation, it seems like people uh bring that argument up because during those years of Jordan, those were his better years.
• 2:15:02
  SPEAKER_01: So they're saying maybe if he had more years at that time in the league, it would have been beneficial for him.
• 2:15:08
  SPEAKER_01: I'm saying I'm opposing, I'm I'm bringing the idea that that's probably.
• 2:15:14
  SPEAKER_06: Because there would there's no way you would be more successful.
• 2:15:16
  SPEAKER_06: Again, not my argument.
• 2:15:17
  SPEAKER_06: I'm saying it's the only thing I could see.
• 2:15:18
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I'm poking a hole in that argument, not your argument.
• 2:15:20
  SPEAKER_06: But there's no way you're gonna tell me that you would be more successful with less experience.
• 2:15:24
  SPEAKER_06: Like they made the argument that Blake Griffin and Ben Simmons shouldn't be considered rookies just by sitting on an NBA bench.
• 2:15:30
  SPEAKER_06: But you're gonna tell me that somebody who was in college learning the game of basketball as opposed to LeBron in high school playing against kids that are like 5'11, no freak athletes besides himself, and like Lenny Cook and you know, like Carmelo went to college.
• 2:15:45
  SPEAKER_06: Like LeBron James went straight out of high school into the NBA playing with adults.
• 2:15:48
  SPEAKER_01: Like there was no, you know, period for him to mesh.
• 2:15:51
  SPEAKER_01: I think that gives him um more credit.
• 2:15:53
  SPEAKER_01: That's what I'm saying.
• 2:15:54
  SPEAKER_06: So when Jordan uh fans bring that up, I'm just like, you're helping my argument.
• 2:15:57
  SPEAKER_06: Your man's went to college and learned how to play basketball.
• 2:15:59
  SPEAKER_06: My man's did not get the chance to do that, and he still made it to the finals without Phil Jackson, without Scottie Pippen, without an all-star.
• 2:16:06
  SPEAKER_01: I guess.
• 2:16:06
  SPEAKER_01: Look at that team he brought to the finals against the Spurs.
• 2:16:14
  SPEAKER_01: The only way that you could get this job done is by uh a computer program that puts the stats together and says, alright, let me go, we're gonna put these two players against each other.
• 2:16:24
  SPEAKER_06: And they have stats for that.
• 2:16:26
  SPEAKER_06: And LeBron J's is usually at the top.
• 2:16:28
  SPEAKER_06: He's about to retire top ten in every statistical category.
• 2:16:30
  SPEAKER_06: And you can't tell me.
• 2:16:37
  SPEAKER_01: And um we're just going off the memory, and stats are all the only thing.
• 2:16:41
  SPEAKER_01: Because you gotta remember, we're always gonna we're always gonna go on that nostalgia.
• 2:16:44
  SPEAKER_01: Oh no, I understand.
• 2:16:46
  SPEAKER_01: We're always gonna remember Jordan.
• 2:16:47
  SPEAKER_01: Jordan kicks, Jordan everything, Jordan being the first classes, bro.
• 2:16:50
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 2:16:50
  SPEAKER_01: So it's be said exactly well that that's precisely what it is.
• 2:16:55
  SPEAKER_06: So you can't change a person's mind on their opinion of who they rather and for the record again, I do agree that Michael Jeffrey Jordan is better than LeBron James.
• 2:17:04
  SPEAKER_06: I do agree.
• 2:17:06
  SPEAKER_01: Remember that these are just fucking uh opinions.
• 2:17:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, of course.
• 2:17:10
  SPEAKER_01: I'm using like some stats.
• 2:17:11
  SPEAKER_01: It's cool, but they still actual factuals.
• 2:17:13
  SPEAKER_01: They still build on your opinion.
• 2:17:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
• 2:17:16
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, he's just being objective.
• 2:17:18
  SPEAKER_07: You know, trying to be objective to those MJ, you know, fans that like to put him on top by a lot.
• 2:17:24
  SPEAKER_06: I think me and Red are gonna have this debate every every podcast.
• 2:17:27
  SPEAKER_07: No, because he said he didn't want to talk about it yet because he doesn't have the stats.
• 2:17:30
  SPEAKER_06: No, no, no, cool, cool, yeah.
• 2:17:32
  SPEAKER_06: We started with Jay Tarder, we always end up with uh Mike or Mike and Braun because that's just what it is.
• 2:17:38
  SPEAKER_07: You bro you brought up really good points about like the team that um MJ also had.
• 2:17:42
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, like I said, like it's different, like it's not an individual sport, so it's hard to gauge those accolades as a team versus you know LeBron.
• 2:17:49
  SPEAKER_04: That's like everybody always saying, like, oh, you know, Jordan never had to play uh Golden State Warriors, but his team was the Golden State Warriors.
• 2:17:56
  SPEAKER_04: It just so happened that Jordan was the fucking the greatest player like ever.
• 2:18:00
  SPEAKER_04: Like so what that he was like like he cannot help that his organization chose to build around him something that LeBron's organization didn't choose to do, whatever.
• 2:18:13
  SPEAKER_04: Like Okay.
• 2:18:14
  SPEAKER_04: So you're mad you're mad, you're mad at you're mad at MJ for that.
• 2:18:18
  SPEAKER_04: Like he gets criticized for the oh, he had this and he had that.
• 2:18:21
  SPEAKER_04: So what his fucking GMs in the front office brought these people there because they knew that this is gonna help him.
• 2:18:27
  SPEAKER_04: Um what what the fuck did uh Cleveland do for?
• 2:18:30
  SPEAKER_04: Cleveland is a small market compared to Chicago.
• 2:18:32
  SPEAKER_04: They didn't they don't have the the I'm guessing he's I'm guessing now that he's in LA, he's uh No, he's in a big market now.
• 2:18:40
  SPEAKER_04: That's what I'm saying.
• 2:18:40
  SPEAKER_04: But now that he's in LA, but he's also what 36?
• 2:18:43
  SPEAKER_06: He's old, but Jordan won titles at a day.
• 2:18:45
  SPEAKER_06: So how old is how does one?
• 2:18:47
  SPEAKER_06: 34, 36.
• 2:18:48
  SPEAKER_04: 34.
• 2:18:48
  SPEAKER_04: 34.
• 2:18:49
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I think so.
• 2:18:50
  SPEAKER_04: Thirty-four years old.
• 2:18:51
  SPEAKER_04: He's on, I would say, the downhill of his career at this point.
• 2:18:54
  SPEAKER_04: Athletically, yeah.
• 2:18:55
  SPEAKER_04: Athletically, yeah, because he's like he's peaked already.
• 2:18:57
  SPEAKER_04: He's he's he's on he's on his he's on his way out, but still efficient.
• 2:19:02
  SPEAKER_04: Um I don't think that the Lakers are really going anywhere though.
• 2:19:08
  SPEAKER_04: I don't think so either.
• 2:19:09
  SPEAKER_06: I don't think they plan on going anywhere this first season.
• 2:19:11
  SPEAKER_04: I don't but I don't period.
• 2:19:14
  SPEAKER_06: I don't do you see LeBron winning a championship within his four-year tenure with personally if nothing happens to Golden State, I don't think there's a team in the NBA that can be Golden State right now.
• 2:19:25
  SPEAKER_04: But what I'm saying okay, like what do you think the Lakers would need for Kawhi Leonard to be uh considered?
• 2:19:34
  SPEAKER_06: They would need a Jordan type team.
• 2:19:36
  SPEAKER_06: Uh I would say Anthony Davis would give them enough to compete.
• 2:19:41
  SPEAKER_06: I w still wouldn't 100% bet on an aging LeBron and a prime Anthony Davis over what they got in Golden State, but I think that'd be a much better matchup than what's going on now.
• 2:19:51
  SPEAKER_06: But if they had a Kawhi Leonard type player, which is the only one that's available, is Kawhi Leonard, and another serviceable star, which any like any prototype uh serviceable star like Paul George and LeBron James.
• 2:20:03
  SPEAKER_04: Paul George is the reason why the Lakers are losing.
• 2:20:06
  SPEAKER_04: Because if Paul George had had gone to LA, I really think that they'd be in a better position because he's he's a he's another vet who can do his thing, obviously.
• 2:20:16
  SPEAKER_06: He's had his own team before.
• 2:20:16
  SPEAKER_06: He's played both things.
• 2:20:17
  SPEAKER_06: He's played second fiddle to Danny Granger, but then he had his own team at one point, and now he's playing second fiddle to Westbrook.
• 2:20:22
  SPEAKER_06: So he can fit whatever mold that LeBron needs.
• 2:20:24
  SPEAKER_06: He plays defense, he rebounds, he shoots threes that are good enough clip.
• 2:20:27
  SPEAKER_04: I just I just don't think that you know people want to play with LeBron.
• 2:20:31
  SPEAKER_06: I disagree.
• 2:20:33
  SPEAKER_06: Because Kyrie Irving had to apologize to LeBron.
• 2:20:35
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 2:20:35
  SPEAKER_06: And that's the biggest argument people use against not people don't want to play with LeBron.
• 2:20:38
  SPEAKER_06: It's Kyrie Irving.
• 2:20:40
  SPEAKER_04: I'm not gonna say just Kyrie.
• 2:20:42
  SPEAKER_06: Um did people want to play with uh Kobe?
• 2:20:44
  SPEAKER_06: Because Dwight Howard was like, I didn't want to play with this name.
• 2:20:46
  SPEAKER_01: Shaq choked the hell out of him a couple times.
• 2:20:48
  SPEAKER_06: Shaq didn't want to play with Kobe.
• 2:20:49
  SPEAKER_06: I have two examples.
• 2:20:50
  SPEAKER_06: I can keep going.
• 2:20:51
  SPEAKER_06: Summish Parker, Kwame Brown.
• 2:20:53
  SPEAKER_06: Who are these people?
• 2:20:54
  SPEAKER_06: Well, Shaq and Dwight.
• 2:20:56
  SPEAKER_04: Well, Dwight Dwight, fuck that bottom.
• 2:20:58
  SPEAKER_04: He's a fucking bottom guy.
• 2:21:00
  SPEAKER_04: No, no, no.
• 2:21:01
  SPEAKER_04: Fuck Dwight Howard.
• 2:21:02
  SPEAKER_06: Uh Shaq didn't want to play with that people always have these narratives about alpha male type players that people don't want to play with them.
• 2:21:12
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, I don't know.
• 2:21:14
  SPEAKER_04: I've only really heard that more so with LeBron as far as people not want to play with.
• 2:21:19
  SPEAKER_04: Outside of Kyrie Irving, who have you heard that about from?
• 2:21:21
  SPEAKER_04: No, just people in general.
• 2:21:22
  SPEAKER_04: KD don't want to play with him.
• 2:21:24
  SPEAKER_06: He didn't necessarily say that.
• 2:21:26
  SPEAKER_06: He just said the toxic media is why peep players would not want to sign up to play with LeBron.
• 2:21:31
  SPEAKER_06: Had nothing to do with LeBron.
• 2:21:32
  SPEAKER_04: Um, see Paul George obviously didn't want to go there to play with him.
• 2:21:35
  SPEAKER_06: I think it was a Lakers organization.
• 2:21:37
  SPEAKER_06: They gambled wrong because they they chose to try to get him in the offseason and they didn't bet against him wanting to stay in a city like Oklahoma.
• 2:21:44
  SPEAKER_06: He chose Oklahoma.
• 2:21:44
  SPEAKER_06: I don't think it had to do with LeBron either.
• 2:21:46
  SPEAKER_04: Actually, I believe it definitely does.
• 2:21:48
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, that's fair.
• 2:21:48
  SPEAKER_04: Um let me see who else doesn't want to fucking play with him.
• 2:21:52
  SPEAKER_04: Um I don't I doubt that Kawhi Leonard is gonna want to play with him at all.
• 2:21:56
  SPEAKER_06: Uh I don't know.
• 2:21:56
  SPEAKER_06: I really don't know.
• 2:21:57
  SPEAKER_04: I know Kawhi said he wants to be the man on a team, and I don't know if he can do that with LeBron.
• 2:22:01
  SPEAKER_04: He's not gonna there's not gonna be whatever.
• 2:22:04
  SPEAKER_04: Like, there there have been there have been talks of different people, whatever, and you know, like just these trade rumors and things and that's it.
• 2:22:11
  SPEAKER_04: Anthony Davis wants to play with him.
• 2:22:12
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I think the Pelicans fucked up by giving up on D uh Demarcus Cousins too early.
• 2:22:17
  SPEAKER_06: I don't think that they necessarily gave up on cousins.
• 2:22:21
  SPEAKER_06: I think it was two things.
• 2:22:22
  SPEAKER_06: I think they realized that they could not afford to pay both of them, and they hedged their bet.
• 2:22:28
  SPEAKER_06: And they didn't they didn't think that he would get signed with the Nikki's tendon tear because that's a big injury, especially for a big dude like that.
• 2:22:36
  SPEAKER_06: Absolutely.
• 2:22:37
  SPEAKER_06: But what they didn't gamble on is that Demarcus Cousins doesn't rely on his athleticism, so he was fine with that type of injury.
• 2:22:42
  SPEAKER_06: And we live in the modern day of um medicine, so it's even worse.
• 2:22:45
  SPEAKER_06: Like Adrian Peterson came back from that shit like better.
• 2:22:48
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, D Cousins, he's he's been doing his thing, man.
• 2:22:51
  SPEAKER_04: Like I've I'm not really a fan of him, though.
• 2:22:54
  SPEAKER_06: I think that he's uh he's severely overrated as a basketball player.
• 2:22:59
  SPEAKER_06: I think that if you look at all the big men that have come into the NBA, he's the only one that did not have a winning season out of these big men that were heralded.
• 2:23:09
  SPEAKER_04: I'll give you I'll give you a a LeBron um stat that they like to do, these padded stats.
• 2:23:14
  SPEAKER_04: Um yeah, I think that Cousins is the player who has the most points who's like never been in the playoffs.
• 2:23:20
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I don't think that's a good accolade, though.
• 2:23:23
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, right, once again, I mean, with just a solid big man, you know, I mean, he was doing his thing on the Kings.
• 2:23:31
  SPEAKER_04: Oh no, he individually was playing amazing.
• 2:23:33
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, like I I don't know.
• 2:23:34
  SPEAKER_04: I I think that I think Golden State is a good uh fit for him.
• 2:23:37
  SPEAKER_04: I think it's a great fit for him.
• 2:23:38
  SPEAKER_04: He's gonna not do the thing, but the thing is, yeah, like they're not gonna be able to realistically sign all of these people.
• 2:23:44
  SPEAKER_06: But where do you think he goes next?
• 2:23:45
  SPEAKER_06: What is his fit?
• 2:23:46
  SPEAKER_04: I think I think he might I think he might do uh one more season with um Golden State after this.
• 2:23:55
  SPEAKER_04: Because think about it.
• 2:23:56
  SPEAKER_04: He's just getting back into the swing of things, he's gonna have like half a season.
• 2:24:00
  SPEAKER_04: I think that if Golden State is happy with what they see, they might say, listen, you know, sign on for another year.
• 2:24:05
  SPEAKER_04: He has toughness.
• 2:24:06
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, what what is it really gonna harm him to sign for a one-year deal or a possible two-year deal or something like that?
• 2:24:12
  SPEAKER_04: Because that's pretty much what these players are signing now.
• 2:24:14
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that's how you how all the power leverage now.
• 2:24:16
  SPEAKER_06: Right.
• 2:24:16
  SPEAKER_06: You know who taught them that?
• 2:24:17
  SPEAKER_06: LeBron James.
• 2:24:18
  SPEAKER_04: But um with with what?
• 2:24:22
  SPEAKER_04: With the way he was like his lifetime um shit with uh Nike.
• 2:24:26
  SPEAKER_04: Nah, that's enough, I know.
• 2:24:29
  SPEAKER_04: But um, yeah, no, I mean, it's realistically a um It's realistically a good question, I think.
• 2:24:38
  SPEAKER_04: Um I think D Cousins probably stays another season with Golden State.
• 2:24:43
  SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna throw you a curveball.
• 2:24:44
  SPEAKER_06: I think he should go back to the Kings.
• 2:24:47
  SPEAKER_06: They have changed their ownership since he's left.
• 2:24:50
  SPEAKER_06: The same ownership that let him leave, though.
• 2:24:52
  SPEAKER_06: They traded him away.
• 2:24:53
  SPEAKER_06: But with that trade, they got De'Aaron Fox and Marvin Bagley, who they're saying is gonna be the next KD, pooh shit, poo shit.
• 2:25:00
  SPEAKER_06: The next KD Westbrook type players in the NBA.
• 2:25:02
  SPEAKER_06: This De'Aaron Fox kid is he has the the same DNA of Russell Westbrook.
• 2:25:07
  SPEAKER_04: I'll be real with you too.
• 2:25:09
  SPEAKER_04: You can't really keep the Lakers out of that uh potty because the Lakers might try to pitch for cousins.
• 2:25:16
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that's that that's another good destination.
• 2:25:18
  SPEAKER_04: You know what I'm saying?
• 2:25:19
  SPEAKER_04: Like, is I think I think what may end up happening is if uh Kawhi Leonard is if he's a bus and he doesn't go, um I think they might try to go for Kyrie.
• 2:25:38
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, the Lakers?
• 2:25:39
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 2:25:39
  SPEAKER_04: I after seeing this LeBron James shit with him recently, I definitely agree with you.
• 2:25:42
  SPEAKER_04: And he's on a fit in Boston.
• 2:25:44
  SPEAKER_04: I I think so, and just for the simple fact that they have that chemistry have have already won a championship together, I think that's even more of an attraction for Magic Johnson and Jerry Buss to say, hey, listen, you know what?
• 2:25:58
  SPEAKER_04: It's Kyrie Irving.
• 2:25:59
  SPEAKER_04: It's not like he's some fucking scrub.
• 2:26:00
  SPEAKER_04: No, he's a prolific player.
• 2:26:02
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 2:26:02
  SPEAKER_04: So you get that in somewhere in there.
• 2:26:04
  SPEAKER_04: I think that can eliminate fucking Rondo, eliminate ball.
• 2:26:09
  SPEAKER_04: Um I don't know if I want to eliminate ball.
• 2:26:11
  SPEAKER_06: This guy plays really good defense.
• 2:26:13
  SPEAKER_06: You think he's gonna go play for them?
• 2:26:15
  SPEAKER_06: Who?
• 2:26:15
  SPEAKER_05: Kyrie.
• 2:26:16
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, he's Of course.
• 2:26:17
  SPEAKER_06: I think he's done in Boston.
• 2:26:19
  SPEAKER_05: I think I think he would definitely due to the situation how him and LeBron.
• 2:26:22
  SPEAKER_05: No, they could.
• 2:26:23
  SPEAKER_04: I think that he would definitely fucking go there without a without a second choice.
• 2:26:27
  SPEAKER_04: Without a second thing.
• 2:26:28
  SPEAKER_04: But I would I I see what you're saying about ball, but I don't think that he's he's not nowhere near what the fuck he was hyped up to be.
• 2:26:38
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, absolutely not.
• 2:26:38
  SPEAKER_04: But he had a dad, man.
• 2:26:40
  SPEAKER_06: Black dad.
• 2:26:40
  SPEAKER_06: America hates the black dad shit.
• 2:26:42
  SPEAKER_06: Like, I mean, I'm just talking about his game.
• 2:26:43
  SPEAKER_06: Fuck LeVar.
• 2:26:44
  SPEAKER_06: He plays really good defense, he's a good playmaker, he's unselfish, he's the modern point guard to play with LeBron because all he needs, he doesn't need the ball.
• 2:26:52
  SPEAKER_06: Ironically, his last name is Ball, but he doesn't need the ball to be effective.
• 2:26:56
  SPEAKER_06: Kyrie needs the ball to be effective.
• 2:26:57
  SPEAKER_06: I think Perry knows and he's 6'6, bro.
• 2:26:59
  SPEAKER_06: He's 6'6.
• 2:27:00
  SPEAKER_06: People forget that.
• 2:27:01
  SPEAKER_04: He's a big guard.
• 2:27:02
  SPEAKER_04: He's a big guard with yeah, and and and and and and delicate ankles.
• 2:27:06
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, man.
• 2:27:07
  SPEAKER_04: It was those, it was those ball of those big bowl of brand shoes.
• 2:27:10
  SPEAKER_04: Them shit just fucking fucked him up.
• 2:27:12
  SPEAKER_04: Those off-brand fucking Nikes.
• 2:27:14
  SPEAKER_04: Absolutely.
• 2:27:14
  SPEAKER_04: But um, I think that I think that uh Kyle Ingram, Lonzo Ball, and probably like you take some other fucking people off the bench.
• 2:27:25
  SPEAKER_04: You can take Rondo, you can take uh wasn't uh what's my fellow light-skinned redhead nigga name on the team?
• 2:27:32
  SPEAKER_04: Um last night started B.
• 2:27:34
  SPEAKER_06: Beasley.
• 2:27:36
  SPEAKER_04: Who are you talking about?
• 2:27:37
  SPEAKER_06: On the Lakers, nigga.
• 2:27:38
  SPEAKER_06: Light skinned dude with red hair.
• 2:27:40
  SPEAKER_06: He's like Oh, Beasley.
• 2:27:42
  SPEAKER_06: Beasley, yeah.
• 2:27:42
  SPEAKER_06: He was on my team at one point.
• 2:27:44
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, like you know, you take someone like him, you know what I'm saying?
• 2:27:46
  SPEAKER_04: And you just you just sign them away and like you know, just tear up some fucking caps.
• 2:27:52
  SPEAKER_04: Ball and Kuzma, if I could.
• 2:27:53
  SPEAKER_04: I didn't say I didn't say get rid of Kuzma.
• 2:27:55
  SPEAKER_04: I said Ingram.
• 2:27:56
  SPEAKER_04: Ingram, yeah.
• 2:27:56
  SPEAKER_04: I'll let Ingram walk.
• 2:27:57
  SPEAKER_04: I I'm I would keep Kuzma, like he's their second best player right now.
• 2:28:00
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 2:28:00
  SPEAKER_04: He he's he's someone who with some uh time can develop, especially if you get a Kyrie Irving in there.
• 2:28:07
  SPEAKER_04: You know, I mean, um you already have uh you already have LeBron and they can make a pitch for whomever else.
• 2:28:13
  SPEAKER_04: But who the fuck else is really out there that's gonna be a realistic shot at landing in LA?
• 2:28:18
  SPEAKER_06: If Kawhi, I mean Kawhi, if Durant leaves the Warriors to go to New York like they're pitching, I honestly think that makes the Warriors very vulnerable.
• 2:28:27
  SPEAKER_06: And I think that's like we gotta see where the shoe falls, because the two guys that are on the board that we don't know is Kawhi and Durant.
• 2:28:34
  SPEAKER_06: Wherever they land, it's gonna change the whole landscape of the NBA.
• 2:28:37
  SPEAKER_06: But if they stay, if everything stays pat, LeBron needs to be.
• 2:28:40
  SPEAKER_04: But is but you know, you say to yourself, like, where you know, you you put yourself in if you're KD, where the fuck do you really go?
• 2:28:48
  SPEAKER_06: The Knicks.
• 2:28:48
  SPEAKER_06: Why?
• 2:28:49
  SPEAKER_06: Because his issue in Oklahoma City was he was in the Russell Westbrook shadow.
• 2:28:54
  SPEAKER_06: And he felt like he was a better player.
• 2:28:55
  SPEAKER_06: I get that, but I'm saying, you go to New York to what?
• 2:28:59
  SPEAKER_06: To make the deep playoff runs in the East.
• 2:29:01
  SPEAKER_06: Bro, you understand if he even gets close to a championship in New York.
• 2:29:05
  SPEAKER_06: Yo, do you not remember how we were uh New York fans were talking about Melo?
• 2:29:09
  SPEAKER_06: It was like the second coming.
• 2:29:11
  SPEAKER_04: Durant isn't a tier higher than Carmelo.
• 2:29:13
  SPEAKER_04: I don't, I I just don't see I don't I'm sorry, I think the Knicks are cursed.
• 2:29:17
  SPEAKER_04: I'm just sorry.
• 2:29:19
  SPEAKER_04: It's it's a horrible fucking organization.
• 2:29:21
  SPEAKER_04: Horseship.
• 2:29:22
  SPEAKER_04: And if you pay attention, let me see.
• 2:29:24
  SPEAKER_04: Harden Harden just dropped what, 60 or 62?
• 2:29:28
  SPEAKER_04: Was it after Garden?
• 2:29:29
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 2:29:29
  SPEAKER_06: 61, I think.
• 2:29:30
  SPEAKER_06: Or some shit like that.
• 2:29:31
  SPEAKER_06: He tied the record for the first points by an away player.
• 2:29:34
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 2:29:34
  SPEAKER_04: And it's like if you pay attention, every time a prolific player comes to the garden, Knicks fans always end up cheering for that person.
• 2:29:44
  SPEAKER_04: Because they don't have anything.
• 2:29:45
  SPEAKER_04: That they don't have anything, but I'm just saying, that's how fucking sad it is.
• 2:29:49
  SPEAKER_06: But imagine if you had Durant.
• 2:29:51
  SPEAKER_06: And who else?
• 2:29:52
  SPEAKER_06: They got Porzingis.
• 2:29:54
  SPEAKER_06: Maybe.
• 2:29:55
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, but if maybe if Durant goes to your team and you're Porzingis, you're staying, bro.
• 2:30:00
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I I think Porzingis is gonna go to San Antonio.
• 2:30:03
  SPEAKER_06: Porzingis?
• 2:30:04
  SPEAKER_06: I can understand why, but I think if Durant goes there, he is he ain't leaving.
• 2:30:07
  SPEAKER_06: But Popovich is, you know, he has his lasso for those European bigs.
• 2:30:11
  SPEAKER_04: But even if um even if Durant goes to New York and Porzingis is there, they're still gonna need a bench.
• 2:30:19
  SPEAKER_04: They're still gonna need um, you know, other players and shit like that.
• 2:30:24
  SPEAKER_04: You don't worry about that.
• 2:30:25
  SPEAKER_04: You have Kevin Durant, bro.
• 2:30:26
  SPEAKER_06: Durant Durant has not been the man.
• 2:30:29
  SPEAKER_04: I have to worry about I have to worry about that because New York is famous for getting one fucking player at a time and dogging the shit out of them.
• 2:30:35
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I understand.
• 2:30:36
  SPEAKER_04: Now they got two.
• 2:30:37
  SPEAKER_04: They did it with fucking Patrick Ewing for years.
• 2:30:40
  SPEAKER_04: Fucking John Starks wasn't no real help.
• 2:30:42
  SPEAKER_04: Fucking, who did they get?
• 2:30:43
  SPEAKER_04: Larry Johnson, Latrell Spree were like all these players, Chris Childs back in the day.
• 2:30:49
  SPEAKER_04: Alan Houston, who had one great season and fucking$100 million, and these niggas been paying him since.
• 2:30:54
  SPEAKER_04: Did they win a ring?
• 2:30:55
  SPEAKER_04: Who?
• 2:30:56
  SPEAKER_05: Did Alan Houston win a ring?
• 2:30:57
  SPEAKER_05: No, the Knicks.
• 2:30:59
  SPEAKER_04: The Knicks ain't won since the 70s, bro.
• 2:31:01
  SPEAKER_04: I'm just it's a horrible fucking organization.
• 2:31:03
  SPEAKER_04: Any organization that kicks fucking Charles Oakley out, a fucking New York legend, bro.
• 2:31:08
  SPEAKER_06: That's fucked up.
• 2:31:08
  SPEAKER_04: Dolan's a fucking dick for that.
• 2:31:10
  SPEAKER_06: Dolan sells, y'all keep Porzingis, Kevin Durant.
• 2:31:13
  SPEAKER_06: Durant, all he has to do is make deep playoff runs, and I'm telling you, he would never because he doesn't feel like he's the man of in Golden State is Steph Curry.
• 2:31:21
  SPEAKER_06: That is his city, that is his team.
• 2:31:23
  SPEAKER_06: That's who they champion around.
• 2:31:25
  SPEAKER_06: It's Steph Curry.
• 2:31:26
  SPEAKER_06: Durant would no matter what Durant does, if Durant could stay there and win 10 championships with him, it'll always be Steph Curry.
• 2:31:31
  SPEAKER_06: There's no feeling like being the number one guy in your city.
• 2:31:36
  SPEAKER_06: And Durant would immediately be there.
• 2:31:38
  SPEAKER_06: Here's my thing though.
• 2:31:39
  SPEAKER_04: They'll say he's the greatest Knicks ever.
• 2:31:41
  SPEAKER_04: Here's my thing though.
• 2:31:43
  SPEAKER_04: Just based off of the history of the New York Knicks, I don't have faith in that fucking organization.
• 2:31:48
  SPEAKER_04: No, no, I'm not a Knicks fan at all.
• 2:31:49
  SPEAKER_04: And I and me as Kevin Durant.
• 2:31:52
  SPEAKER_04: Nah, I'm just not doing it.
• 2:31:54
  SPEAKER_04: But look, he already has championship rings.
• 2:31:55
  SPEAKER_04: I don't give a fuck.
• 2:31:56
  SPEAKER_04: He already has MVPs.
• 2:31:57
  SPEAKER_04: What else does he need?
• 2:31:58
  SPEAKER_04: When you go when you go from a winning team to a fucking losing team every day, it's like I don't think there'll be a losing team anymore.
• 2:32:04
  SPEAKER_06: They're in the East.
• 2:32:05
  SPEAKER_06: The East is a little bit lighter, especially if uh Kawhi leaves.
• 2:32:08
  SPEAKER_04: If Kawhi leaves and Kyrie leaves, right?
• 2:32:11
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's Durant's conference.
• 2:32:12
  SPEAKER_04: He's gonna be in the finals every year.
• 2:32:15
  SPEAKER_04: He's only uh battle fucking Philly and uh Milwaukee.
• 2:32:19
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's right.
• 2:32:20
  SPEAKER_04: But and those teams are like two years away from being Gianni's uh I think I think uh Giannis definitely needs like a crazy playmaker around him too.
• 2:32:32
  SPEAKER_06: Like that would be a fucking he's averaging the most points at the Rems in Shack, and he's a wing player.
• 2:32:39
  SPEAKER_06: That's absurd.
• 2:32:41
  SPEAKER_06: Freak freak! Yeah, a nigga shooting 13% from three though.
• 2:32:44
  SPEAKER_04: Um let me see.
• 2:32:46
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, what thank that might be a few points better than Russ.
• 2:32:49
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, Russ Brooker, he's another one, but he's never gonna win a championship.
• 2:32:52
  SPEAKER_06: He's gonna be the triple-double guy.
• 2:32:53
  SPEAKER_06: But it's fine.
• 2:32:54
  SPEAKER_04: He's gonna he's gonna be that person that averages a uh triple double for his career.
• 2:32:59
  SPEAKER_04: And that's it.
• 2:32:59
  SPEAKER_04: You know, and that's all he's gonna be known as.
• 2:33:01
  SPEAKER_04: And it's just like Russ has so much potential, but he just doesn't I think he's the greatest athlete at that position we've ever seen.
• 2:33:10
  SPEAKER_04: He just third Rose is second.
• 2:33:11
  SPEAKER_04: He's he's just not uh championship caliber material.
• 2:33:17
  SPEAKER_04: D Row uh D Rose, though, shouts to him because he's bowling like a motherfucker.
• 2:33:22
  SPEAKER_04: And he's he's uh he made the all-star team like um That's dope.
• 2:33:27
  SPEAKER_04: My fan vote.
• 2:33:28
  SPEAKER_04: A high high vote.
• 2:33:29
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 2:33:30
  SPEAKER_04: Hey man, you know, it's gonna be in it's gonna be interesting, it's gonna be entertaining, you know.
• 2:33:34
  SPEAKER_04: Um I think that Mello's gonna end up in LA.
• 2:33:38
  SPEAKER_06: I hope he doesn't.
• 2:33:40
  SPEAKER_04: I think he but I'm saying I I I think he's gonna end up in LA.
• 2:33:43
  SPEAKER_06: I hope he doesn't.
• 2:33:44
  SPEAKER_06: We'll see.
• 2:33:45
  SPEAKER_06: Um, I guess that has been sports time with AG and Red.
• 2:33:48
  SPEAKER_06: Right.
• 2:33:48
  SPEAKER_06: All the rest of our calls are just like, man, fuck these niggas.
• 2:33:51
  SPEAKER_06: Fuck sports.
• 2:33:52
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, um sport, fuck all the bullshit about it.
• 2:33:55
  SPEAKER_06: Um well, I guess it's time for you guys to take us out, man.
• 2:34:00
  SPEAKER_05: Definitely ain't fucking sports money.
• 2:34:03
  SPEAKER_04: Could be cook money coming from you.
• 2:34:06
  SPEAKER_05: Might even be beta money, but hey.
• 2:34:08
  SPEAKER_04: Beta money, shallow money, presidential shutdown money.
• 2:34:17
  SPEAKER_05: Or that not money.
• 2:34:19
  SPEAKER_05: But definitely is gas money.
• 2:34:21
  SPEAKER_04: The tank is full.
• 2:34:23
  SPEAKER_04: Can I get a perfect?
• 2:34:25
  SPEAKER_04: Perfect.