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FINDING YOUR PLACE (AND YOUR PACE) AS A WOMEN OVER 50 · Uncluttered and Unfiltered: The Podcast For Women Over 50

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Welcome to Uncluttered and Unfiltered, the podcast urging
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you to let it go and don't look back.
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We've nationally acclaimed professional organizer Christine
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Stone and self-proclaimed Hot Damn Mess radio and TV
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personality Eden Kendall. Welcome, everybody.
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It is another episode of the podcast for women over 50 where
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I'm cluttered and unfiltered. I'm Eden.
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This is Christine here. Say hi.
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Hey everyone. So, Christine, I mean, I have to
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tell you, I want to start this right off the bat and I hope
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this doesn't hurt your feelings, but it's awesome.
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My husband says to me the other day, your podcast last week,
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he's one of the few men that listen to our podcast.
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He said your podcast last week was hilarious.
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Christine is Larry David. I am.
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I'm Larry David. No, believe me, he's not the
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first one to say that. I'm.
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Larry David No, no, no. Tell Steve He is not the first
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one to say that. So if you guys have missed last
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week where Christine told us about her trip, you, you got to
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go back to it. You've got to go back to it.
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So we're going to start out. First of all, Christine and I
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save things up to tell each other about throughout the week.
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And I just bought something that should have gone in our own
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products that we love episode except they didn't arrive in
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time. So I'll I'll make sure to post
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this on social or get this episode on YouTube.
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But I'm going to show her my new glasses.
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OK. Do you see these clear frames
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these? Are progressive lenses.
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I can't believe they progress. Oh, they're so.
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Cute. OK, wait, wait.
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Now I'm putting another pair of frame of different frames over
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them. They're Do you see how I change
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the color? Yes.
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OK, wait. So what color are they now?
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They're tortoise. They're like tortoise, yeah.
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OK, wait. Oh my God, Now they're red.
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Now they're red. Wait wait wait, here it comes
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pink. Whoop that I'm not even done.
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Oh my gosh. And they're sunglasses.
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Yeah, yeah. Oh.
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Surprised. These haven't.
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I'm shocked that pair eyewear that these were not on your
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algorithm because I am getting bombarded.
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Wait, let. Me go back to really, I always
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like to laugh and tell you on my algorithm God, I'm trying to
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think oh I know the latest thing I've been making chia seed
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pudding that's on my. Oh, that's your new cottage.
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Cheese. Yeah, that's my protein.
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Yeah, the protein, like, you know, Yeah.
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So I'm bombarded with every chia seed recipe you could ever, ever
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imagine. Things you wouldn't even want to
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eat are mixed into chia seeds and cottage cheese anyway.
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Well, when we left off last week, I wanted to know what you
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were watching on that long flight to Italy.
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So. So tell me, Tell me what?
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What's good to binge these days? OK, well so I told you I watched
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Sirens, which, OK, it was fine. I.
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Mean. Yeah, You know, I mean, it was
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busy TV. That's what I call busy TV.
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Like you kind of have it going on in the background.
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You watch it here. I know.
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Anyway, But what I forgot to talk about, and it was funny
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because when I got back, my husband did not watch the same
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thing I did. So when we got back, I knew he
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would love this. And it was the Osama bin Laden
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American manhunt and I, OK, so you're probably like Debbie down
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or whatever. I know I'm making a face at you
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right now. But here's the thing.
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OK, what's that? I I think I realized two things.
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One, you're probably thinking, why would you watch that when
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you're on an airplane? And I agree was not one of my
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better ideas because I started crying on the airplane.
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And it happens to me every single time.
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They show the opening scene and it's always the blue disguise.
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And it was the most beautiful day ever.
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And then the first plane hits in the tower and I start sobbing.
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When we went to the 9/11 memorial, we walked in, had my
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headphones on, standing next to this lady, and they started it.
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And her and I both fell into each other's arms sobbing.
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I mean, I told my husband I have to leave, I'm not going to make
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it through. And we just walked in the door.
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So I wanted him to watch it because I knew he would really
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like it. So I'm like, oh, well, I just
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watched it a week ago. I'm not going to cry again
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because, you know, I just saw it.
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Sure enough, same scene. I start sobbing and I look over
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at him and he has tears welled up.
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And I finally said, someone needs to talk about this.
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I people who had kids in school who were in their 30s or late
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20s or early 40s, whatever, have post traumatic stress disorder
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from this and no one ever talks about it.
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Every 9/11 memorial comes and goes every September and it's
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yes, everybody says you know all the things you're supposed to
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say and you know, but I am telling you, I feel I can't
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remember what I did 2 weeks ago. I can tell you everything I was
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doing that day, everything I ate that day, what my kids were
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wearing that day, I mean, I feel like it's something that people
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don't talk about How how traumatic.
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Don't you agree? Yes.
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And so yeah, IA 100% agree with you there.
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I think about how kids that were born after that or very little
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and sheltered from it by their parents during that time.
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Think of it the way we think of things that were in our history
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books, but we didn't know anybody that really went through
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it. And I can think of a million
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times when a an elder, an aunt or a grandmother or somebody
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would try to tell you about something that they went through
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and you're like, oh, grandma. And, and it's weird to me that
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it's like that, that it's something in a history book
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versus that day that I, too, remember.
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It feels like it was two years ago.
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I remember being at the radio station where I work during the
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morning show, looking at the TV, reporting it on the radio as an
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accident. Then the other one happened.
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Katie Couric was talking. Yeah, Candy Couric was talking
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to her producer who was there, and she goes, oh, my God, here
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comes another one. And I just remember exactly that
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feeling and and my boss coming in and saying, you know, this
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could be mean. We're at war and staying on the
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radio all day long. I remember where my husband was.
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He was down in Orlando and our, you know, my daughter was not
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even one. I mean, I, I remember it
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absolutely, as you said, like it was much more recent than it was
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now. Would I watch the documentary
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right now? I know the correct answer is
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absolutely never forget. I just when I'm watching a show,
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I feel like, I feel like, well, it's an important thing for
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people to watch. But then you were telling me,
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yeah, but then you get to see the procedure of how they
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eventually got him. And so that feels like that
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would be satisfying. Well, that's what I'm saying,
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that part, first of all, and you didn't realize how long it took
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to get him like it, like they do it in a way and they lay it out
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in a way like, you know, six months since the attack, one
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year since the attack. You know what I mean?
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It's a timeline and why it took so long.
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And from the CIA's perspective, which I don't think anyone ever,
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ever heard from the people that were working during that time
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and their feelings and how they, they were feeling and how they
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felt like everyone blamed them. And I'm not, I don't, I don't,
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I'm not going to get political here because that's just not my
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thing. But to see people like grown men
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from the CIA all can't talk because they're so emotionally,
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you know, moved by what happened, It's heart wrenching.
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But like you said, and I I think This is why it's worth watching
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is the end result of exactly the SEAL team everybody that how
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secretive it was and how what a different world everybody was
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living in at the time of all of it.
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And I just, I mean, the whole thing just was so well made.
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I think that's. Because you told me, yeah, you
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saw. I didn't think you'd be able to
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sell me on this documentary. But I think you'll, you'll real.
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I think anyone who watches it now listen.
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Is it a fun, happy topic? It is I, I don't know if we can
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be friends. Because that sounds terrible.
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Exactly. I no, it's not, but I definitely
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think this is what the younger generation is missing.
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Knowing about 911 is there was no social media hardly at all
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back then. I mean, at all, basically, so
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people can't understand what that was like to go through this
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and there was no social media. And so I think, I mean, I, I
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just think it was such a different time and it, and for
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people to forget how traumatic that was for the people that
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lived through this and for they have people that go on and talk
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about people that went into those buildings.
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It's just so it was so well made.
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And I think it's definitely worth watching.
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I wouldn't do it on an airplane ever again.
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Yeah, that's a fascinating. Ever.
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Ever. Tell, Tell One More Time, the
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full name of the documentary. It's on Netflix and it's Osama
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bin Laden, American Manhunt. So it's how they caught him.
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That's basically. The a big gigantic pivot for
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you. Have you watched Four Seasons
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yet on Netflix? I have not.
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I think I have not because it got kind of mixed reviews.
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That's kind of where I'm at. It was OK, We watched it and it
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was entertaining, but it wasn't top of the list.
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Best thing ever. And I mean, there was some great
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acting in it. It's I think.
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It's I love the original. Yeah, I don't remember seeing
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the original, but I remember my parents seeing it.
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Yeah, I really like the original and I, I don't know, don't get
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me wrong, I'll probably watch it at some point because right now,
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in my opinion, there really isn't a lot of good stuff on.
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I don't know if you can hear Thunder.
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I hear. Yeah, boy, it's about 4.
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Yeah, so there it is, thundering behind me.
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So anyway, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's just not a lot on.
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I tried I tried that show sticks or stick last.
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About the golfer. Yeah, I couldn't get.
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Even Owen Wilson. Yeah.
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I didn't have an interest. I wonder what Mitch thinks.
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He hasn't watched it yet, but you know that one with Jon Hamm?
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Yeah. I did watch that and I
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absolutely love that with Amanda, Pete and Jon Hamm.
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Yeah, what's that one called again?
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Something neighbors. Yes, yes.
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Yes, and it's on Apple TV. Well, first of all, I am a huge
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Jon Hamm fan. I mean you choose since the Mad
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Men days, but he really was good in this.
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I mean really good. I highly recommend that.
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I didn't love the last episode, the very last one, but I don't
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know. Lately I think everything ends
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weird when it you know everything I.
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See, it's like too much cliffhanger.
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I don't know the reason is you didn't love that one, but I
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mean, definitely cliffhanger. I was trying to remember what
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else I actually texted my husband and I was like, what
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have we been watching lately? Because I just couldn't
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remember. Watch Mobland too, which I
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really liked and then heard it wasn't being renewed.
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I hate when that happens too, because you're like into a show
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and you're so excited and want, want no Season 2 so.
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But I really liked that a lot too.
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That was on Paramount Plus and there's nothing that's like
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knocking my socks off. Yeah, you know, I mean.
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Yeah, so, so are you acclimated from being back from Italy?
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I am acclimated but ladies after 50 it took me a while.
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It wasn't quick. It took me I would say like a
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full 7 days to get really back into the swing of everyday
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normal life and getting on a better sleep routine.
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My sleep was so messed up but I'm back.
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Did you drink a lot of coffee? I didn't ask you that.
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Because lots of coffee. The book I'm reading right now,
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they're all, they're all excited about the coffee.
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Lots of coffee, lots of everything you can imagine.
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The ice cream, the Gelato, pastries.
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What you see and read is exactly what it was eating a lot.
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A lot. A lot.
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And running and running from volcanoes.
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Yeah, and running from volcanoes, this poor people.
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Well. I wanted to tell you a little
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bit too about my week because I, I hit this weird spot in my week
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and I was like, if only I had someone to talk about this with.
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And then I remembered I've got a couple 1000 ladies that I think
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could potentially relate to this.
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I don't often go around, I mean, we're hanging our hat on being
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the age we're at. I mean, basically this podcast
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is totally based on that. But for some reason, in the
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outside world, in my life around this podcast, I just suddenly
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hit this weird wall where I was like, I feel old as hell.
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Yeah, but your birthday's coming up.
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If I'm going to analyze this, your birthday's coming up.
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And although it's not the big six, which I cannot wait for,
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it's 59. I, I feel it's OK.
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I feel that it's the runner up of the year to come because that
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last year from 59 to 60, everybody's like, oh, you're
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going to be 60. Oh, you have six months till
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you're 60. I think that's what's happened.
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It's like you you're in that runner up year starting in a
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couple weeks. Runner up here, The penultimate
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is what you call it. Yeah, almost The finale, which
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it should be a finale, but it feels like 1.
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Yeah, but you know what happens? I felt that way that whole year,
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my whole 59. And then I oh, I did.
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I was like just I want 60 to be here so I can stop hearing about
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you're going to be 60. It's almost here.
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You have a month till you're whatever.
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And then it came and went and I was like, oh, thank God it's
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over like that lead up. It's like this, you know, and
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then people kept saying you need a big party, you need to do
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this, you need and I'm like, I just wanted to come and go.
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I just wanted to be here already.
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So I that's what I think it is. I could be wrong, but it's your
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couple weeks away from and. It only just started about a
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week ago and I was like I don't know what it is.
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And I was with one of my girlfriends the other night and
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I said I don't know why but I suddenly feel it.
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Like I just feel sad about the passing of time.
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Like why? I mean because I don't have the
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joy of the grandkids thing going.
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On yeah, but you will never going to.
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Happen you will. I may or I may not, but that's
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not like a ship that has sailed by any means.
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It's. Just.
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That's very close to happening. So, but I have that like I'm in
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a younger woman's career kind of deal.
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And I think social media is bringing me down to the point
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where I'm making a real effort to not look at it as much
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because I'm, I tell myself and I believe that I to stay relevant
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and everything I need to be looking at it.
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I need to be. But I, I think I'm just, it's
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depressing me. And I think that has to be a
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rampant feeling. I think that there are probably
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a lot of we women out here who are getting depressed because
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we're looking at social media too much.
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And you've said this all along, this isn't something new, but
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I've never really been that on board with it to where I feel
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like it's rocked my world. Well, I definitely, I think that
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that has a lot to, I didn't know that part of it, but that has a
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lot to do with it #1 And I, I'm sorry to say this, but people
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are so mean. They are so mean.
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And I'm just saying from seeing like, if you go on social media
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and just read comments of people that like, say you're looking at
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something like a pretty dress someone's wearing.
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And then people come out of nowhere and they're not even
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talking about the dress anymore. It's like, oh, what's that thing
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on your arm or you have you have wrinkles on your hands or are
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you going to get that thing removed off your face?
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It becomes nothing about what the person has posted.
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And that's when we were in Italy and gone for two weeks.
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I literally made a conscious effort that I'm not going to
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look at TikTok, look at Instagram, look at anything.
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I'm going to really just take a break and kind of live like
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Italians do, very relaxed and laid back.
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It was part of why I think it was so relaxing.
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It, it took time. I mean, you're not you.
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Americans aren't used to like kind of unplugging.
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And so you're like, now what do I do now?
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What do I do? But I that's what it is because
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I only go on social media usually for business, like to,
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to do stuff regarding work. But I've kind of have gotten off
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really just sitting there looking at it day in and day
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out. Now don't get me wrong, like the
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chia seed pudding thing I was telling you about, I'm on it
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more for recipes and cooking because I've really lately got
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into like cooking in my kitchen a lot.
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I think that's different. Although someone could be making
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something with their hands and someone will be like, what's
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that thing on your hand? I'm like, Oh my God, they're
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cooking. I just think you really have to
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have a high threshold. And then a woman that popped up
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in my feed who's like 55, everyone told her she looks 65
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and that she should stop saying she looks good for her age
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because she doesn't. And then a woman went on there
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and said, why are you asking people how old you look if you
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don't want to hear it? So then it became this big
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battle because everyone's like, if you don't want to know, then
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you shouldn't. And I'm like, Oh my God, this is
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so boring and so high school. So I think that might have
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something to do with it. If you've been on social media a
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lot, it can be depressing. And don't you think AI should,
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there should be an AI since there's so many things to do
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with AI now on social media where you can be like make a
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picture of me walking in outer space with my dog.
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Don't you think there should be a thing where you can literally
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say to AI other than the algorithm deciding, but
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literally speak to it and say. Do not show me anything that is
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not going to be beneficial to my job.
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Here's what my job is or beneficial.
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As you try. Eating to say don't show me
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things. Is there a way to do that?
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How do you Tonya AI can do anything?
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And that's another thing. I think that the problem is
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because nobody knows what's real anymore.
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And so they're commenting on things that aren't even real.
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Like it could be something that's made-up and they're
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commenting and then someone always pipes in.
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This is why I like that one person that pipes in and goes,
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it's fake, it's not real. And then I laugh.
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I just, I it's almost like reading the comments is more fun
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than watching. Yeah.
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Because you see how people have absolutely no care of anything
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of what's going on, really. And they just want to make you
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feel bad about yourself, you know?
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What I mean, I did, I did realize something.
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I don't know if you realize this, but this is the thing with
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Threads, the social media platform called Threads.
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Threads is paying people based on the interactions they get, so
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that you've got 100 million people out there that are saying
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very controversial, stupid things to try to get people to
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chime in. Oh, I didn't know that.
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Yeah, so the next time you're scrolling through threads, and
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here I am saying stop scrolling. But I'm just saying if you're
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going to look at threads, you have to know this.
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People are getting paid for causing, you know, conflict.
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So you've got people out there that are intentionally poking a
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bear and they're saying stupid things.
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The one I saw yesterday said something like, am IA jerk for
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if I got a wedding invitation that said no kids, but I
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couldn't find a babysitter. If I bring my kids anyway, am I
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the jerk? Well, of course you.
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Are and you know that you. Know that you're just trying to
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stir the pot or, or hey, I'm just going to say it.
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And then they say something completely unbelievable that
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that could even possibly be their opinion.
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They're really only trying to get people to chime in and and
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get in an argument. And then cha ching, cha ching.
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I don't claim to know how it works, but they're making money
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every time that happens. And I never kind of figured that
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out, believe it or not, on how you make money off, you know,
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whatever, how many comments you get, whatever.
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But that's also part of the problem because if people are
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making money off this nonsense, they're going to keep doing it.
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And so I think, I don't know if this is true, but I think down
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the road at some point people will limit their social media,
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looking at it whatever to one hour a day or with a timer,
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whatever they do, because mentally, mentally it is not
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good for anybody. I think I'm getting to that
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point. I think I'm now to that point
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where I can say there's a low, maybe not even low key, maybe
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high key addiction. Like an addiction?
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Yeah, I think everyone's addiction.
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It's causing mental duress for me, like really making me feel
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sad. And also the idea that someone
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is asking me my opinion, but they don't really care what it
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is. They're just trying to make
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money because they want me to comment.
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That's very discouraging. So you just have to, you got,
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you've got to know where to go to get the answers you need.
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You've got to know that the people that are supposedly
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existing to make you feel better or do better in your life, maybe
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you're really not in into your best interest at all.
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It's just hard and it's great to surround yourself with people
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like this group because if you don't, who you going to tell
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that to? I'm not going to have that
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conversation with somebody who's 30 years old.
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They don't. Well, and also, I mean, I even
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read something that said this younger generation, it, it isn't
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getting out and socializing as much anymore because their
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socialization is all on social media.
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So they don't have to leave their house and go meet a new
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person, a new friend, a new join a group or do anything because
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their socialization is on TikTok.
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And they actually think the people that they've never met in
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person, and I mean ever, are their true best, best, best
25:51
close friends. And I think that's insane only
25:54
because how can you be best friends with somebody that you
25:57
never, ever see in person? They could be AI and be fake.
26:02
I hate the idea of that, but you know, I do like the homebody
26:06
attitude of this generation coming up.
26:09
I like the fact that Homebody has become so accepted that I
26:13
when I was at Target yesterday, the first thing I saw when I
26:16
walked in was a pillow. I took a picture of it and the
26:19
pillow says lover of cancelled plans.
26:23
And I was like, that's hilarious that there would actually be a
26:26
pillow that says lover of cancelled.
26:28
Plans. Well, Speaking of that, you have
26:31
to admit when someone text you and says, Oh my gosh, my kids
26:36
sick or I just threw up or, you know, something's come up.
26:42
My mom broke her hip. Whatever it is OK.
26:46
Secretly you're like, oh, thank you.
26:48
There is a God. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
26:51
You're like, you're like doing a happy dance, you know what I
26:55
mean? We have to normalize.
26:57
We have to normalize. And I know that's such a Gen.
27:00
Z thing to say. Let's normalize, but let's
27:02
normalize when we make plans with our friends asking each
27:05
other now, are you doing this for me or am I doing this for
27:09
you? If you're doing this for me and
27:11
I'm doing it for you, why don't we have a zoom happy hour, which
27:16
I know is the opposite of what you just said.
27:17
Where how can you be friends with someone you've never met?
27:20
Because you really can be if it's an authentic face to face.
27:25
Like I know during the pandemic, I actually threw another friend,
27:28
met a few ladies that I've never met in person.
27:30
And I do consider them to be friends.
27:33
Absolutely. I do maybe not best friends.
27:35
Certainly they're not going to be my next of my emergency
27:39
contact. But but yeah, I mean, just this
27:43
whole thing, like when you make plans with someone and you're
27:45
like, oh, gosh, I don't know how to tell her I can't make it.
27:47
Trust me, you can tell her. She's probably going to be
27:49
stoked. Yeah, well, that's what they're
27:52
saying. Even with the the younger
27:53
generation, they're just like, not they're like, OK, if we
27:57
can't go out or even my daughter's age who's in their
28:01
30s, they're like, yeah, I'm good to stay home and, you know,
28:05
eat dinner at home and watch a movie or whatever.
28:07
So, yeah, people have finally joined my world.
28:11
It's so exciting. Being a homebody, that FOMO,
28:16
that fear of missing out. Here's another thing that has
28:18
happened to me recently. This all within the last week I
28:24
realized. So not to overcomplicate the
28:26
back story here, but I had this position for those who are not
28:29
local. I had this position on this TV
28:31
show and I left for 2 1/2 years, still did a radio show and then
28:36
came back to the show in my absence.
28:39
This very glamorous, sweet as sugar, amazing young lady
28:42
millennial took over. And even though she was only
28:46
here 2 1/2 years, she was socially huge.
28:50
Like she was at every party after party.
28:53
If somebody was like doing a big event, she was going to emcee
28:55
it. She was doing everything, really
28:57
taking a big old bite of that apple.
28:59
And so when I came back to that position, I think I had put this
29:03
incredible pressure on myself to try to to not be the granny
29:08
that's not going to do those things.
29:09
Like, in other words, they all got used to having this person
29:13
hosting this lifestyle show that was also part of the lifestyle,
29:16
right? And I suddenly realized that was
29:18
depressing me too, because it's just not me.
29:21
It's just not me. I have my own things I do on a
29:26
regular basis. And I just that's just.
29:28
Not for me. So I have to admit it.
29:31
I'm not. I don't we had this, we had this
29:34
conversation years ago when we said we don't want to go to the
29:37
after party because we don't even want to go to the party
29:38
party. Right.
29:40
Well, I'm happy to say though that you finally have come
29:44
around because you had so much Dang energy.
29:48
I couldn't, I thought, she's never going to, she's never
29:51
going to drain that battery. I mean, she is going to go until
29:56
I'm, I couldn't believe how much energy you have.
29:59
So you finally have joined like the almost 60 crowd where it's
30:05
like, yes, I want to go and do things, but God, I love being at
30:08
home or I love doing something simple and easy and no makeup or
30:14
whatever it is. I think that's part of getting
30:18
older though. You don't want to put that kind
30:20
of effort into a night out, you know what I mean?
30:24
Exactly. I now I haven't lost that
30:27
physical energy where I almost have to do things physically or
30:30
I go crazy. But it's the it's the introvert
30:35
slash extroverted me where I'm getting them too tired
30:39
emotionally. I can't keep up.
30:40
I can't but pretense of it, but also.
30:44
Maybe it could be that you used to have the energy to be able to
30:49
go out and do all those things and then still go to work five
30:53
days a week from 8:00 to 5:00 or whatever it is.
30:56
And that's part of it too, because you're thinking, I used
30:59
to be able to do that and I just can't do both anymore.
31:03
I can go to work 8:00 to 5:00 and show up and do great, but I
31:08
can't then go out after work, do something until 10 O clock at
31:12
night, then turn around. That's a lot, I think.
31:16
When the sun goes down. I go down I.
31:19
Mean I'm, I feel like, you know, it's nature.
31:23
We're not. Supposed to be out here.
31:26
I agree. I think that that's part of it.
31:30
What you're going through is accepting that that change is
31:33
normal. Not weird.
31:35
It's normal. I know it's normal.
31:39
It's normal to have lines on the sides of your face.
31:41
It's normal to want to, you know, and.
31:43
And I did this post again. I keep going back to social
31:46
media because I have a problem, I guess.
31:48
But I posted something the other day without any makeup, and I
31:50
was like, look at these lines. This is me.
31:53
This is it. These lines.
31:54
They're none of my business. I mean, yeah.
31:56
Am I going to still go get Botox?
31:58
Am I still going to try the rock patches that you recommended?
32:01
They just came from Amazon. Thank you.
32:03
Am I still going to do all of these things?
32:04
Yeah, I'm going to try. But I'm also not going to do it
32:07
in a way where I'm trying to fool anyone because that's
32:10
what's exhausting is when you feel like you're trying to fool
32:13
people to me. Yeah, I don't think there's
32:16
fooling people anymore, though. I think that unless you're using
32:21
a filter, that's the only way to fool people.
32:24
But here's the thing, I think about filters, but you're very
32:26
funny. So say you use filters all the
32:30
time, but then you run into somebody in purse they're.
32:33
Going to think you're. And you don't look like that.
32:36
Yeah, that's my worst fear is like, what if I start using
32:39
filters? But like I actually know people
32:42
in my own town and then they're like, she don't look like that
32:45
in person. Well, I did that the other day.
32:48
I used a little filter. I looked for the most natural
32:50
one I could and then in the course of it I turned my head in
32:53
it and you could see it slide off my.
32:56
Face you could see exactly. The filter and I was like oh I
32:59
delete delete delete delete delete.
33:01
Oh, that's so funny. It just because I was just like,
33:03
I, I can't become that person. I have nothing against filters,
33:06
by the way. I think it was Daisy Fuentes was
33:09
it wasn't a Daisy Fuentes who a long time ago said, I'm going to
33:11
use a filter if you want me on social media.
33:14
And I guess there was an outcry or a demand for it.
33:16
She's like, this is me. If you're going to come into my
33:18
home, I'm going to use a filter. And that's just what's going to
33:21
happen. Agree with that though I, I, I
33:23
think if that makes you feel, I mean now listen, I wouldn't use
33:27
a filter that changes like everything about you meaning
33:30
like your nose structure, your eyes are green instead of brown,
33:34
whatever. But I think if you want to use
33:37
something that softens, why not? I don't know.
33:43
I don't know. I don't have beef with anyone
33:45
for any of it. I just, I just know from my
33:49
experience over the past and I keep saying it's been a week,
33:52
but I we all know these things build up and then you notice
33:55
them. So who's to say how long it's
33:56
been brewing in me? But I just hit that wall and
33:59
then once I started speaking it, it felt better immediately.
34:02
So I mean if. That's you ladies.
34:04
You know what I think the test is?
34:05
Stay off social media for like 48 hours.
34:09
Just give it 48 hours and if you feel better, I think there's
34:14
your answer. I mean, that doesn't include
34:17
like looking on Amazon or Pinterest or like to know it or
34:22
whatever else because that to me is different because you're not
34:25
getting people's comments. But things like that where I
34:31
just think if that you'll know after 48 hours if that's the
34:34
real problem, you know what I mean?
34:37
We have AI don't want their own anyone under the bus.
34:40
But I feel it's very unlikely that this person will find out.
34:42
But there's a a young person I work with who does a lot of the
34:46
social media and every time she sees me, she and I'm I'm
34:48
shooting something. She's like, let me make sure
34:50
your lens is wiped. I'm like, why don't you just
34:53
call me grandma? You little, you know, I'm like,
34:56
come on. Well, but the lens thing, I have
34:59
to say, I learned that from a younger person.
35:01
Yeah, I know, but I don't. I mean, she says.
35:03
Do you know how? Dirty your lenses are like I
35:07
keep I keep off on my phone like this and like this one girl
35:12
said, you know, you may want to wipe that before you start
35:15
taking pictures or videos because like your fingerprints
35:19
are all and I never ever, ever thought of that until she said
35:23
that I never did. No, never, never ever thought
35:27
about it. And so I started doing that
35:30
every time, even if it's just a random picture I take, because
35:34
she was right. All my pictures came out so much
35:37
more clearly. But you are more evolved.
35:39
See, this just goes to show that you're more evolved.
35:42
You've passed through this year that I'm going through right now
35:45
because here I was taking it personally and you're like, that
35:48
is a great piece of wisdom. Thank you young person.
35:52
Yeah, but don't be hard on yourself because I feel like
35:55
that's normal. The right the lead up the year
35:58
before the 60th, honestly, if one more person asked me what we
36:04
were doing for my ice, I literally was going to like pull
36:07
my hair out of my head. I mean, everybody kept saying,
36:11
well, we got to celebrate. We got to what do we do?
36:13
Should we go hike a mountain? Should we go to a spa?
36:16
Should we? You know, I'm like, I just want
36:18
to, I don't, I just want to go to bed and wake up and have it
36:21
be over with and then I'll do whatever I want after it's over
36:25
with. So hindsight of advice, enjoy 59
36:30
and don't worry about 60 till it's here and there's nothing to
36:34
worry about as they say. And I kind of feel this way now.
36:40
It is another year you're alive on this planet, so.
36:43
You know, given the alternative well, but that.
36:46
OK, so that's the other part of it.
36:49
A few people from my high school.
36:51
Are you in the in memoriam for your own high?
36:53
School. Oh God, yeah.
36:54
It's the most you talk about depressing.
36:57
Most depressing thing I've ever seen.
37:00
Ever. I mean, I wouldn't want to get
37:02
out of it because I don't want to not know, but man, that's one
37:06
way. Oh, is that a, is that a want?
37:09
Don't you see Debbie Downer? Well, and also, you know, what's
37:13
really depressing is when you're on those and then you see the
37:18
name and you recognize the name, but then you click on it and the
37:21
picture is like an old person. You're like, I'm old.
37:25
You know what I mean? Like the picture is doesn't look
37:28
anything like in high school because it's 50 years ago for
37:32
me. So of course it's not going to
37:34
look like they did. But your mind doesn't connect to
37:37
that at all. You know what I mean?
37:40
Your mind. Someone sent me.
37:43
Oh, I think it was you. Oh.
37:47
Sean Cassidy. Oh yeah, you did not like that.
37:51
Well, you did. Not like that.
37:52
The thing is, I haven't seen a picture of Sean Cassidy in a
37:55
really long time. So when you sent that to me that
37:58
he was coming in concert here, all I could think of is why does
38:02
he have Gray hair? It's Shawn Cassidy.
38:04
He shouldn't have Gray hair. And then I told you, God, that
38:07
makes me feel old. Shawn Cassidy's Gray hair makes
38:11
me feel old. That's what it's really all
38:14
about. It's not about Shawn Cassidy.
38:18
I think I would like to go to that concert though.
38:20
I know. Our If I told you, I'd be a wing
38:22
man. I know our girlfriends from our
38:25
favorite podcast, the Pop Culture Preservation Society,
38:29
had him on, and I'm actually working on that too, now that
38:31
he's got a tour again and he's coming to town.
38:34
But I think I think I'd be fun to go to because I'm hoping, and
38:39
I believe this is probably the case, that he has a really good
38:41
sense of humor about everything. I mean, the thing about Donny
38:44
Osmond is. He's all, he's all serious
38:49
business. He's all serious.
38:50
Business. This is the family business.
38:52
Because he's such a huge talent. I mean, those who don't know the
38:56
talent of Donny Osmond. You, you're kidding yourself.
38:59
You're fooling. Yourself, he was born.
39:00
And raised a triple threat versus Sean Cassidy, who kind of
39:05
like was on the Hardy Boys and they're like, you're going to do
39:07
some singing because we need some extra cash coming in, you
39:10
know, his mom with Shirley, Shirley Jones, you know, like
39:13
that kind of thing. But something that freaked me
39:17
out is I don't know if you saw this, but Sean Cassidy, I'm not
39:20
sorry, not Sean Cassidy. Donny Osmond has the AI, the AI
39:23
younger version. Of and I would totally go
39:27
because here's the thing why I would go that's what you really
39:31
want to see is the younger Donny.
39:33
Now listen, Donny Osmond was great.
39:35
We had such a fun time, but you really in your mind want to see
39:42
the AI Donny Osmond singing Donny Osmond at 14.
39:47
That's what you really came for. And of course, the older Donny
39:51
Osmond can't hit those notes anymore.
39:53
Which I thought he handled it in a really cool way.
39:56
He did never seen his concert or it on YouTube or a lot of you
39:59
guys don't care and that's fine too.
40:01
But from a from a marketing perspective, they did this big
40:04
launch, this nationwide launch where they wanted a kid to sing
40:07
his high notes. And so they show the video of
40:09
this really cute kid. And they intermix it and the kid
40:13
sings all the high notes. So now instead of that, they're
40:16
I guess going to have this hologram or this AI version.
40:20
And but it's his grandson. Right.
40:22
So they released this creepy thing where he's sitting next to
40:24
his grandson and he keeps going back and forth or it's his
40:26
grandson's face and then it's AI space and it's wild.
40:30
It's just. Wild.
40:32
I would definitely go see that just because like I said in my
40:36
62 year old brain, that's the Donny Osmond I really want to
40:40
see, even though it's creepy and weird.
40:45
Yeah. So anyway.
40:47
But listen, I think Sean Cassidy is also great.
40:51
I just he, I'm older so he, he wasn't my guy, but I still liked
40:56
him and I loved his brother David.
40:59
Well, his brother David, I love reading all the stuff now about
41:03
what a mess he. Was.
41:04
During that time, I mean, just like bagging the babes, we need
41:10
a weed. We need a good Netflix
41:13
documentary on David Cassidy. The whole Partridge family.
41:16
Yeah, like like that whole like a really good Netflix
41:21
documentary, like the Menendez brothers one, but it's about the
41:25
Partridge family and everybody in the Partridge family.
41:30
God, I hope someone's listening. That would make my day, my year.
41:34
Anyway I. Would love that.
41:36
Well, look at that. We barely planned for this
41:38
episode and here we are at pushing 40 minutes so.
41:42
Oh. My goodness.
41:43
OK, everybody, it does. So listen, if you have a topic
41:48
that you want us to cover, great, let us know.
41:51
And also in that same spot that I'm about to tell you where you
41:53
can do that, you can also let us know if you're feeling the angst
41:57
that I'm feeling. It's also a place you can let us
41:59
know about a documentary for a great streaming show.
42:02
I want to see more participation in that Ladies only page.
42:05
Some of you guys are doing that and we appreciate it.
42:08
But I want everybody to feel like, you know, you're not the
42:11
administrator of this Facebook group, but you're certainly
42:15
welcome to chime in and be the one who posts something.
42:18
So please do that. And it's ladies only.
42:20
It's on cluttered and unfiltered.
42:21
Ladies only. That's the name of the Facebook
42:23
group. Of course on cluttered and
42:25
unfiltered is on all the other socials and everything like us
42:28
review us, do all of those things.
42:30
Believe it or not, somehow magically they help get the word
42:32
out to other people. But this should be a catharsis
42:35
for all of us, not just me and not just Christine.
42:38
Yes, I agree with that. I love reading everything
42:42
everybody says. I'm big into the reading of all
42:45
comments. Yes, we love reading comments.
42:48
I love reading comments. We really do.
42:51
OK, so the, the angst you feel when you're getting close to a
42:54
birthday because you know, hey, listen, it's better than not
42:58
having another birthday to look forward to.
43:00
So that melancholy feeling, why don't you just let that go?
43:04
And don't look back.