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- speaker-0: Hey, what's up everybody? Welcome to the concession stand. I'm Nick, and across the screen is my co host Jules. speaker-1: How you guys doing today? speaker-0: Today we are going to be talking Insomniace new Wolverine game, recapping this year's Emmys, and we're gonna be seeing what's new in the film world. ⁓ and then after that, we're gonna be breaking down Lanterns episode six. Six? Five. Lanterns episode five. ⁓ so you know, we got got a lot to talk about, got a lot to get into. Stick around, grab a refill, and let's let's go. Let's do this. So ⁓ first up on the docket, ⁓ Jules, take it away. speaker-1: Man, so guys, I've been playing the Marvel's Loline. I pre-ordered it, so ⁓ it was ready to play midnight the day it came out, which I think was what, Monday or Sunday? Yeah, Monday. I th yeah, Sunday or Monday, one of the two. And guys, I know that the people came out, comic book, and everybody came out and rated game six out of ten. It is not, that is a lie. I would you know, I would be very close to say it was almost perfect. speaker-0: ⁓ Monday, I believe. speaker-1: The only things that I would actually change in the game, like it's hard and like I like that. I'm playing it on the hardest difficulty as well. So there is that portion of it. I don't even know what the easy mode feels like. So I guess when I play it again or run through it again in the in one of those modes, I I can find that out. But ⁓ other than that, you know, it's really Wolverine, Gene Gray, Mystique, Sabretooth, Nathaniel Essex. We'll get into who that is later. But it's very, very good, you know, as far as the villains, you know, Omega Red, you know, the Russian mutant undead guy. He is, you know, he's your first boss. He was, you know, that pretty much set the tone of the game because he wasn't easy. So, you know, you kinda from that point were like, okay, this is like a Dark Souls boss almost, except, you know, we're in a Wolverine game. Now I'm about fifty two percent of the way done with the game. ⁓ or through the game. ⁓ right now I'm fighting Lady Death Strike, ⁓ which is really cool. You know, her character or, you know, kit and everything is really cool. So I think they, you know, the game was not a miss. I would recommend for everybody who loves Wolverine or want to play this game to go get it. It is not a bust. It's definitely worth the money. ⁓ you don't have to get the I wouldn't recommend getting the deluxe or anything, but just getting the regular one is s you know good enough. 'Cause there's you know, in the deluxe you just get different ⁓ suits, which also, you know, are pretty cool as well. So they you know, they have they even have like a an animated con ⁓ animated token token suit from the Marvel it's like Marvel Mortal Kombat basically. speaker-0: The Marvel Tokon or whatever? Yeah, yeah, yeah. speaker-1: Yeah, they have his skin and that in the game and you can play as that, which is pretty speaker-0: When they when they pull other skins yeah, when they pull skins from other games into into different games, like speaker-1: ⁓ yeah. They have I think that he even has his like apocalypse skin from X-Men 97. So there's but there's different ones. And so, but like, you know, right now with Lady Death Strike, we're fighting the hand. And if you don't know anything about the hand, Daredevil has been mentioned. Remy Blabot has been mentioned. ⁓ Yeah, there's a card that says I owe you so blah Ace of Spades. Black Ace yeah, it's Ace Bades and it's and it just he wrote I IOU Remy LeBoe. And then ⁓ they were literally talking about a a ⁓ a lawyer from New York City who's into ninja stuff. So I was just like Daredevil. If you guys watch Daredevil, you know about his his involvement with the hand and all that. speaker-0: There we go. There we go. Yeah, yeah, come on. speaker-1: There's talks of the cradle. We see the cradle. I was in the cradle because I died. And then I found out that I am the god of death, the Shinigami. So it's it's this experience has been amazing. So I I would recommend, you know, anybody who'd want to play that game to go get it. It's not a bust. My official rating, nine out of ten. speaker-0: True. Nine out of ten. How would you say it compares to another Marvel favorite insomniac game like Spider-Man or Spider-Man 2? speaker-1: You don't feel like you're playing like Spider Man with no webs. You feel like you're playing a Wolverine game that like it's like if I can give it its best description, they gave the skill map and the moveset and the technique ⁓ you know, tree. That is like the insomniac Spider Man game where, you know, there's a lot of moves and a lot of things you can do. And that are interchangeable as well, because you have DNA adaptations when you find whiskey, which is also really funny. ⁓ and and like the game will actually like you'll just get a scent trail that's going off to whiskey. And I think it's hilarious because he'll be like, you'll hear him say, like, ⁓ it's no time for whiskey. And then he'll you'll pick it up. He's like, Well, I mean, I guess I can have it. I guess I'll save it for later. speaker-0: Yeah, yeah. speaker-1: And so that's how you get your DNA adaptations, which can help you build rage. And, you know, there's damage sponge. There's a lot of different things that you can use, ⁓ which also make the character really cool. But like as far as like how you're moving, I would say it's more comparable to Arkham Arkham Knight Batman. And then his rage in the game is like Kratos, like the, you know, the God of War. So like it was like they like it was almost like they were inspired by God of War, ⁓ Arkham. Arkham, ⁓ Batman, and then ⁓ obviously Spider-Man. speaker-0: True, true, true. Mm. Mm. Well, I like I haven't played the game. I I've just I spent probably an hour yesterday just watching Jules d ⁓ you know, play through the game and stuff. I was spectating. And like it from what from what I've seen and from what pretty much from what Jules has just said, like everything like It's so on brand for the character, like all just all the kind of mechanisms of the game, like w how Jules was ⁓ saying the whiskey, like you know, he he's finding whiskey bottles at random at random spots and there, you know, there's different pieces of like the suit you can compile as you go throughout the game, which I think is is really cool. Cause like just me personally, I'm a big suit guy, like in tur you when it comes to the games, the movies, all this stuff. So yeah, and so like so especially somebody like, you know, like Spider Man or Wolverine, like they find different ways in each game to kind of incorporate the suits and make them important, which I always which I I thought that was really cool. ⁓ speaker-1: And they give him enough, like there are even suits that you so there's something called the Nightmare Cabin, and basically that's where he's unlocking his ⁓ unlocking his memory. So and like the only thing I will change is and say this is that in the nightmare cabin, I wish they would give us like a cutscene versus having him read his memory like it's a letter. So That's the only thing I would change about the game. Like that's what keeps it from a ten out of ten. Like if that had that, it would be a ten out of ten game for the for that alone. speaker-0: True, true, true. Now I mean, we love we love a like one of those Logan old time like, you know, flashbacks that could it that could be from like the early nineteen hundreds, the mid eighteen hundreds, like, you know, like any type of flashback where Logan is like you you showing his age and like showing that he was there, I'm I'm here for it. I'm here for it. Sorry. speaker-1: The oldest one I think I seen was like eighteen thirty or eighteen seventy maybe. It was something like that. And that was like him in the Rocky Mountains. I think it was the one where I was telling you he got trapped and was like trapped in a hole in the Rocky Mountains winter and then he woke up in the spring. speaker-0: ⁓ yeah. Yeah. Damn, damn. That's come on, now let's Wolverine shit right there, bruh. Like, I don't know what you what I don't know what y'all want. Like, I'm, you know, I'm no game expert. I'm no game reviewer or nothing like that. But like from what I could see, it looked like a game that was fun, action packed, true to the character. Like, what I don't know what more you can ask for. And like, for in the mechanics of like ⁓ how it look how you were like compiling different abilities and stuff as you played through the game and everything. And I know like a lot of games are like that, but just like the way that it was like it was set up for you to kinda like le keep leveling up like that was really cool. So speaker-1: Yeah, no, it was it was ⁓ it was very cool. I I had a great time personally. Like I thought that, you know, I'm having a great time. I'm I've probably put let's see. I'm gonna check right now, guys. I've got speaker-0: I've got about speaker-1: But a eighteen hours into the game. So I would say if I I would say in another two hours, like if I play the game for another two hours, I could probably beat it, potentially, and have it done in t under twenty five hours, I would say. like, you know, I think Kai might a took eighteen or nineteen hours to do it. And that was during his marathon. So like I feel like my you know, the amount I'm gaming, you know ⁓ for me to have eighteen hours on it spread out this the this amount of time since we, you know, that's probably what hour and a half to two, maybe three hours a day. So, you know, I'm getting far, especially on the diffic most difficult one. Cause like true you you have to perfect parry on like the the most difficult ⁓ difficulties called the best there is. And yeah, you have to be that because they you literally have to perfect parry. speaker-0: So that they was not lying. You have to be the best. speaker-1: No, you h you really do because like it it was giving me like I ain't gonna say it was giving me Elder Ring vibes, but it was definitely giving me like when I fight a boss, like certain bosses were easy, but the like like Death Strike right now, she's she's definitely one of the like a difficult one. And Omega Red was definitely probably and that was I would say he was one of the hardest because that's your first boss and you don't know what to expect. speaker-0: True, true, true. True. Well, there you have it. The what y Jules's breakdown of the Wolverine is or Insomniac's Wolverine. We've been waiting for this one for a long time. So it's good that, you know, they came in and delivered. It's good that they came in and delivered on this one. So r kind of raise it ra ⁓ raises a question for me, especially with what you said about the mention of one Matt Murdoch. What do you think would be the next The next Marvel hero that ⁓ Insomniac could make a game for. And you know you know who my first my first option is. I'm saying Derek Eckle. speaker-1: Like ⁓ Okay. See, but look, Daredevil would be very close. The reason why I think they'll stay away from Daredevil is because Daredevil's ⁓ kit and like like unless they make it like you're actually blind and all you can see is his echolocation stuff, it's gonna be kind of like Spider Man because it's New York. Yeah, I guess that's what And then it's like only and and then at that, it's he's only patrolling Hale's kitchen. speaker-0: about to say yeah because yeah it would j it would be like a a ⁓ limited Spider Man game. Like you one, you don't get as much as the city 'cause you can't swing that fast and you can't get get around that fast. Two, he only like you said, he only stays in L's kitchen. And three, like he can't do as much as Spider Man. Like obvious and and there's the limit of the blindness. So like you have to there would have to be a way to incorporate incorporate that into the game mechanics and stuff. But like that's just another layer that would make it harder to to to pull off. So speaker-1: Then it's like, all right, like 'cause th he does a lot of courtroom stuff. So it's like, what, you're not gonna be doing court stuff? Or is it are we gonna do the part his that that arc where it's Foggy and Nelson and then at the end of the game Foggy died? Like like that's how I can see the story to go. speaker-0: Could okay, okay, you you just redeemed it for me. That could be tough if half the maybe not half the game, but like a quarter of the game is like courtroom scenes and like maybe some of the decisions you make in court could affect like you know speaker-1: But he's also Matt Amadog Murdoch. So like Exactly women, they're who but then who? Are we gonna get a lecture? Well we would have lecture, but like speaker-0: Exactly. Okay, we would have to get at least a lecture in Karen Page. At least. And then maybe you could throw in Maybe the therapist shorty, I know there maybe Natasha. I don't know. Natasha question mark. I don't I don't know. I don't know. speaker-1: I like that. I like that too. I like that too. speaker-0: Who who would your pig be for for the character though? speaker-1: Does it have to be marble? speaker-0: Let's say yes, just 'cause Insomniac I th as far as I know, has only we're who made Arkham Knights? Do you know? speaker-1: I can look that up real quick, guys. speaker-0: 'Cause maybe ⁓ maybe in I don't know, maybe I'm wrong about that. But The guy. The guy in the chair. Or speaker-1: That was Rocksteady Studios. speaker-0: Rockstadic. True, true, true, true, true. So as saw as far as I know, Insomniac hasn't done any DC stuff, so let's just keep it. speaker-1: Well, w all right. I'll I'm I won a static shot game. I'm gonna leave it at that. But if I had to choose speaker-0: Damn, you just cook. You just you know what? Forget the Marvel shit. Static shock. Static shock. Talk to me about it. That would that would be aw, man. Just give me any type of static game. Movie. I don't. speaker-1: Dying for show like literally, bro, I'm gonna go back to the mall before I leave because I wanna I wanna get the next one and or all the other static ones I can. Because literally I I'm like, all right, you know what? I'm just gonna get a comic book bin and then I'm gonna fill it up at the store and then be like, Okay, I'm done shopping. And then that's it. But like I I need I need some I need a lot of static and then I'm gonna pick up some marble ones too, and then I might get some other ones. You know, some some ones I've I mess with. But but yeah. So how what did you so Monday, I think you ⁓ you was the Emmys, right? speaker-0: Yes, yes. Monday was the Emmys. I'm a big, you know, I love award season, stuff like that. I love, you know, tracking who's gonna be winning, you know, nominated for and winning what, making my predictions and whatnot. ⁓ and so in this, you know, this past this this this past Monday's Emmys, it was it was you know, it was fine. It was fine. ⁓ it was pr it was it was pretty good. It's one it was one of those where like it kinda got a little boring because a certain show kept, you know kept winning a lot of the categories. One might say that they swept. And obviously they didn't sweep every single category they were n nominated for, but they won speaker-1: ⁓ well I'll let you I'll let you keep going. speaker-0: Okay, okay they won a good they won a good amount of awards and I'm ⁓ I'm I'm just gonna give y'all the recap just in c you know for ⁓ I know and th this might not be everybody's bag like following the awards and stuff, but you know, just for anybody that is interested, this is what, you know, a lot of the main things that came out of it. So the show that I was talking about that that was sweeping is Apple TV's Widow's Bay. And ⁓ like it it it was it it did enough to make me and my girls start watching it. I was It's really, it's really freaking good, bro. Like I'm not even it's a hor it's like a horror, it's a horror comedy, right? And so like there's some I'm not gonna hold you in terms of in terms of the in terms of both. Like they they I've laughed some of the hardest I've laughed watching TV this year in the i watching this show, and I've been more scared watching this show than I have watching anything scary probably in a couple years. I'm not gonna hold you. Like and I'm not saying it's like I'm not saying it's like super like, you know, filled with filled to the brim with jump scares and stuff like that. It's just like one, when the jump scares do happen, it's just like it's kind of subtle, so you don't really like expect it necessarily. And two, there's just like a lot of creepy like vibes and creepy stuff going on. So it's about like this. speaker-1: 'Cause it's American horror story type of vibe, or is it like a speaker-0: Not in the not like that person more like ⁓ what's a good comparison? 'Cause it's like the island it's Widows Bay, like the town that they the the they're on is is on an island and it's haul and it's it's basically haunted. Is it all this letter out in the same like the people on speaker-1: Way like psychiatric crazy, but the town like is it like like gray, very gray, dreary? speaker-0: No, okay. It's see it's a s seemingly normal town. And like like it normal people live there and stuff. But obviously there's like a few kind of you know, kinda crazy, kinda weird people. But it's just like the the town's history is like, you know, kind of messed up and haunted a little bit. And like not everybody not everybody is aware of that. And so that kind of you're gonna have to check it out 'cause like I ooo I'm gonna just leave it. But they w How far are you? They won. ⁓ you got like two episodes left. speaker-1: Okay, okay. speaker-0: Yeah, yeah. It's ⁓ really good. For ⁓ for but ⁓ yeah, yeah. ⁓ for sure, for sure, for sure. and it so yeah, they won fourteen awards, ⁓ including Including best comedy series, best actor, best supporting actor, best supporting actress, best guest act ⁓ best guest actress, best writing, best directing, best casting, best cinematography, best music composition, best music supervision, best production design, best sound editing, and best sound mixing. All to Widow's Bay. And like, bro, this I I I it I this is in ⁓ the ⁓ the same Emmys where He the ⁓ Matthew Reese, I think is ⁓ how you say his last one for ⁓ you said what? Reese. Re Re it's like R H Y S. ⁓ so it's it's like Reese or speaker-1: Matthew. Leaves? This Reese probably. speaker-0: Yeah, but ⁓ he was noted as the first actor in history to win two leading acting Emmett. So he won a leading acting ⁓ a leading actor in a comedy series for Widows Bay, and he won lead actor in a limited series for another t another show. ⁓ and which is which is crazy, like unprecedented, like that's that's insane. ⁓ and but in the category that he won for Widows Bay, he was going up against Yaya for Wonderman. So like I Fully knowing that, after watching eight episodes of this show, I'm like, I he still kind of mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And you know before I yeah, you gotta watch it. Before I watched the show, I was booking for Yaya, and that's still my boy. But like after watching the show, I'm like, ⁓ bro, like he really is kind of in his bed. Like he's ⁓ he's tough. speaker-1: You know what I watch it? He's i was he in flow so they was he killing, he was cooking. speaker-0: He was definitely in flow state because he he's I think he's British or like, you know, he's from Europe. And like I did I would have I would have never guessed. I, you know, it's one of those performances. speaker-1: Okay, okay. It i it's not a speak up Speak Up I was dying. I said I said oop they that slipped. It's not a carrot. It was like I'm sorry. speaker-0: Speak up Because for s for something to be great in this day and age, it has to be memeable. But other some other notable ⁓ wins are the super the Super Bowl halftime show, got seven wins. ⁓ the Traders, my favorite reality show on TV right now, got seven went seven for seven, seven nominations, seven wins. Shout out my boy Alan Cumming. You said what? Yeah, seven for seven. Seven for seven. We love that. That's that's that's n it hosted by Alan Cumming, aka Nightcrawler. the boy, the ki the or then the man at this point, but yep, yep, that's the that's the that's the guy right there. I love that dude. ⁓ anyway. speaker-1: I'll also be tuning into that. speaker-0: ⁓ yeah. ⁓ bruh. You we'll we'll talk off camera about that because I I love that show. You you I think you would like it. ⁓ Peacock. Peacock. ⁓ but ⁓ Pluribus also got six wins, including Best Writing in a Drama Series, actr ⁓ best actress in a drama series. ⁓ The Late Show of Steven Colbert won its last ⁓ Emmy ⁓ and finished out with six wins, including ⁓ Best Variety series and the Pit. speaker-1: Real quick, what's it on? speaker-0: ⁓ had five wins including best drama best drama ⁓ best actor in a drama series and then also as we mentioned on last week's show ⁓ spider noir won five emmys at the creative arts emmys ⁓ and ⁓ was a n was nominated for eleven so those are you know those are probably the most notable ones at least that you know like I care about ⁓ and I know Jules cares about a little bit ⁓ and Beef ⁓ because we both seen Beef Beef had three wins. Yeah. ⁓ so ⁓ yeah, yeah, that's pretty much, you know, that's that's my Emmy recap. ⁓ you know, it was pretty good. It was hosted by the ⁓ the actress from Law ⁓ Law and Order SVU. And like she didn't speaker-1: She Olivia is it is that her name? speaker-0: I can't remember her name. I honestly remember. speaker-1: No well, I don't know if it can I think her name is Olivia Pope in the show, I'm not sure. speaker-0: Olivia Pu May I think yeah, I think you're right. I just can't remember her her name her act ⁓ her name in real life. But speaker-1: She has a crush on j ⁓ Jalen Brunson, I think. speaker-0: That might be that yeah, th I think I might have heard that. I think I might have heard. speaker-1: Yeah. It was during the Knicks ⁓ title run. speaker-0: True, true, true. ⁓ but yeah, she did all right. She was you know, she was pretty funny. She had a lot of funny bits, less funny like actual jokes. Like she wasn't like 'cause a lot of times they get comedians and stuff to host and you know like Yeah, sh no, she's not. Not even n not really. But ⁓ but yeah, she w she still did a good job. I'm not, you know, not trying to hate on her or nothing like that. But ⁓ Yep. speaker-1: Yeah. Man on power tour. Yep. Up next for short topics, we got Spider Man brand new days of as being the official highest grossing film of all time in the domestic box off box office with nine hundred and twenty eight million, which beat out Star Wars, The Force Awakens? Question mark. speaker-0: Yep. Yeah. speaker-1: Out of hate that movie gets is still is it was the top of the box office for a while now. Like and it's funny because people hated it. But we all obviously spent our money to go see it. speaker-0: Where are we? speaker-1: It's just itching for Star Wars that bad. speaker-0: I mean, at the time we were itching for Star Wars that bad. It had been that was the first Star Wars movie in like since the prequels. So it it would it had been like fifteen years, something like that. So ⁓ speaker-1: Yeah. Yeah. ⁓ Which makes sense. Which makes sense. Even though it gets his hate, it was still it wasn't a flop, clearly. speaker-0: 'Cause yeah, it came out in like twenty six fifteen, sixteen, like something like that. So maybe maybe ten years. Maybe it was like ten years, but ⁓ but yeah, so ⁓ it I I I mean it Spider Man brand new day just keeps keeps keeps rising. Like it it it released at the end of July. It's it's mid September. It's mid September and it's still making money. So speaker-1: A friend who ⁓ texted me about ⁓ Spider-Man brand new day because they recently, I think, went and seen it, and they were watching the podcast just showing support, and they were like, Okay, so debatable, better than any other Spider-Man, but definitely the best of Tom Holland's and among the best of the others. Which I would say, like you can I can see the arguments for the other movies, per like more so Andrew Garfield's Spider-Man movies, but like I think that, you know, still to me, I think this branded day was, you know, still takes the takes the cake. That's just me. But just that being said, you know, it's okay. It it's it's ⁓ you know, everybody's opinion, you know, on the on Spider Man is accepted because that's just kind of how Spider Man was intended for us, anyways. You know, anybody can be Spider Man. Any perspective is a good perspective when it comes to Spider Man. speaker-0: Unless you say Spider Man sucks, in which you were wrong and you speaker-1: You suck. Unless you're talking about Marvel Rivals. speaker-0: Facts. Unless it is in the context of Marvel Rivals and yeah, that just that negates any Spider Man positivity that ⁓ that I might have or that anybody might have. Because goddamn, but if you know, you know, we're not gonna we're not gonna get into that. speaker-1: So Nick, I hear D C has a a rated R horror movie coming out. speaker-0: Tell me what this is. Yep. We have been looking for the clayface for a long time. And we just it it it it comes out, I think, October 16th, and we just found out that it's officially going to be rated R ⁓ for strong bloody violence, gore, language, some nudity, and brief drug use. So I mean, hey, they speaker-1: You hear that folks? Who's playing in the clay, Nick? And is it a guy or a girl? speaker-0: ⁓ yeah. Hey, it it's probably both 'cause we got we got we got some nudity in there. speaker-1: He could be anybody. I think he could be anybody nudie nude and then stealing their clothes or something. speaker-0: I could see that. I mean there I mean just because it's a body horror movie, like we got it. I I you know, I I I would assume that it's gonna be him who's you know, who's gonna be naked and stuff or whatever. But ⁓ in the fact that he can tur like you said, he can turn into men and women, you know. So it's just because he's the one he's the one that's technically being i naked doesn't mean he's the one we're gonna see being naked. So it's like I it any i anything could happen. You know, you never know. But y'all ask for ⁓ a D C horror movie and a D C horror movie is what we're gonna get because hey, we got all the you know, we got gore, blood, violence, sex, ⁓ drugs, all the all the all the rated R stuff is gonna be in this movie, so speaker-1: I'm here for I wanna see opening night with the the stands and the people who are like like I wanna see the person who's gonna dress up as Quayface. I wanna see that guy. I don't wanna suggest that guy, but I wanna see that guy. speaker-0: Yeah, I was about to say I wanna see a ceramic wrap giant walking in the theater just like dripping clay or speaker-1: A bunch of spray foam everywhere. And i he's gonna look like a big old diarrhea monster, more than likely. That's probably like that's the hardest thing with doing clayface, probably, is that you don't want to look like a big old piece of poop. speaker-0: Yeah, yeah. And do okay, with that being said, do you think in this movie we're gonna get big piece of poop clay clay face at some point? We haven't seen it in the trailers. We haven't we've just seen a lot of speaker-1: Yeah, like see that part right there, they're gonna have to do it. But what I think he might be, it might just be a clay dude, not a clay monster dude. speaker-0: I see. speaker-1: I think he's just gonna be a clay dude instead of like like compressing down into an actual smaller being versus it being like, you know, clay face. speaker-0: interest I I think I like that idea. I like I'm not gonna lie, I like the idea. I just feel like we got it. We 'cause okay, if if this changes anything, I think they said that ⁓ or like somebody like the director, the writer said that ⁓ this clayface is the same clayface that we saw in Creature Commandos. ⁓ so like we so eventually we know he does turn into big big poop clay face. Okay. ⁓ but it's just a matter of if we'll if we'll see it in this movie. ⁓ But you know, we'll see. We'll see. Another one we're super excited for. ⁓ and then Jules, take us home before we talk about lanterns. Tell us about this ⁓ new Netflix announcement. speaker-1: So Netflix guys, I don't know if you're you guys are f familiar, but there was an old, what is that? ⁓ was it a movie or a sh no, it was a series movie? The the which was the the Stanford Prison Experiment, which is, you know, random people, they're selected or no people, you know, go and participate, but they're randomized and if they're gonna be a prisoner or a guard. And basically Netflix just conducted this new experiment again, guys. And it's let's see how, you know, if you've speaker-0: It was a movie. ⁓ speaker-1: Seen the doc documentary movie, well you'll understand what their findings were, but let's see if this happens in today's age. I think it's gonna be worse personally, because it's unscripted. They didn't none of this is they're they just rolling cameras and letting things go. So, you know, we're gonna see, you know, the power development of certain people, how they wield that power over the people that they're guarding or, you know, managing, if you will. Like we're gonna see a lot. So I you know, there's it follows thirty participants who enter a real prison and are randomly assigned as guards or prisoners. And mind you, in the first one, they were never in a real prison. Just wanna make wanna put that make that known. It was more of a say it again. Go ahead, Nick. If you want to comment. speaker-0: No, I was I was just gonna ask. Wasn't the mo was the movie based on like a real experiment that they did? speaker-1: I want to say that was the real experiment. Like I wanna say that's the do it's a I wanna say it's a docuseries. speaker-0: ⁓ maybe we're talking about ⁓ or c or maybe there is a docuseries and I just haven't seen it. I 'cause I just know of the movie. I haven't actually seen the movie. Okay. And I ca and I know it's not a documentary because I know that what the actor that plays Cyclops in the the newer like X Men movies is in the is in the speaker-1: Okay, okay, okay. So maybe it's not then. ⁓ speaker-0: Maybe I'm Or maybe ⁓ maybe there is a docky series though. But that I mean speaker-1: That face l does sound familiar to my memory because like I've seen this like when I was boy when I was younger. So but r regardless, regardless. you know, it's gonna they're it's gonna be, you know, it's gonna be good. You know, they must see if they can conform to the roles or if morality wins. And yeah, I wanna, you know, it's gonna be very interesting how that plays out for them. I'm, you know, excited. Nick, do you ⁓ you have a date for when that might be coming out? speaker-0: I actually I don't I can ⁓ look it up real quick but ⁓ but I was gonna ask what Do you think with it being a reality T V show that that makes it more like Obviously it's safer, like, because you know, you can't like all the things that happened in like the real experiment or in the movie, ⁓ like however intense, I don't think they would let it get that far in a reality T V show. So do you think like it being reality TV kind of will might make the experiment more successful and less like toxic, I guess? speaker-1: Think it's honestly gonna depend on Netflix and what they're gonna let them get away with because it's unscripted. Like is the producer gonna step in and be like, hey guys, we can't do that. And like, cause like I imagine if there is something like that, we will see it because they're already rolling cameras. So and Netflix, I feel like Netflix is, I feel like in a situation like this. speaker-0: Mm. ⁓ speaker-1: they're gonna just keep rolling it and correct it and just show that they corrected it 'cause it kinda also covers their butt. speaker-0: Mm, mm, mm. True, true. speaker-1: Just in case anything crazy happens. 'Cause like I dear Lord, like if if there was a situation where a guard like ha like had some type of dare I say sexual power, knock on wood, hope that doesn't happen. Where they're like wielding something like, All right, man, you're gonna you're gonna have to get down on your knees or you're not getting your food today, bud. Like Like if if someone was devious like that, like I'm not obviously they're not gonna do that. And if they did, they kicked that guy out and then got someone else. But you know speaker-0: And that's the that's the danger of it, of like this you doing this experiment I guess is like you're playing with like some actual crazy power dynamics a little bit. Right. And you know, how far is that gonna go for some speaker-1: Even does it take them to forget? Yeah, like d to forget that they're, you know, pretty much i in a reality show. Like how long is it gonna take them to for their brain to switch off and now that they forget about the cameras? speaker-0: Yeah. And as someone who watches reality TV myself, there are normal reality TV shows where people forget their own camera. So like, you know, they're just sitting in their house with with with people who got camera rigs on them and they forget that they're even there. So in an environment like this where it's like not only like do you have all this stuff it like this set or not even set but like, you know, this environment to distract you, but like all these people and like, you know, shifting dynamics and stuff to distract you from the cameras, like It might get grisly. It might get grisly, but hey, we'll see. We'll see. We'll see. But on to the main event of the evening. We are here today to talk about Lanterns Episode 5. Official spoiler warning. speaker-1: Mm. Spoiler alert. Spoiler Spoiler alert. speaker-0: Green flashing alarms. The green flashing alarms are on. Okay. If you have not seen Lantern's episode five, pause right here. Go watch it. Come back and press play. Okay? Or if you want it spoiled for you, just keep listening. Okay. ⁓ so let's start with a little recap. Because golly did a lot going on this episode. Look, this this episode felt like ⁓ like it could be a season finale, and we're on episode five. I speaker-1: think I've three somewhere on Twitter where someone was like, Yo, when's when's the show coming back out? And then the guy go someone commented like, dude, there's three episodes left. speaker-0: Ha ha. For real though, for real though. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. speaker-1: That's that's the way that's how you do it. speaker-0: You good? speaker-1: I looked up the Stanford thing and I forgot to tell you and I just looked back at the information and I was like and then I stopped. But ⁓ just to t just to touch real quick since we stopped, the Stanford prisoner experiment was con was a controversial 1971 psychologic psychology psychology study led by psychologist Philip Zimbardo at Stanford University. And they recruited 24 male college students and randomly assigned them as either guards or prisoners in a simulated prison built in the basement of Stanford's psychology department. So that's like that's what I seen. I seen that. Like I watched that because that's what I I was like, the this was like on a like a like a like a VHS camera or something like that. But basically, like I I don't know, maybe they didn't record it or someone Like or the one you seen, 'cause like did they was the premise of the movie, if you remember a little bit, like, did it have anything to do with Stanford? Because if it was at Stanford, then they did it on the movie and we watched that. T or I watched that that same thing. But or I watched their actual tape. I can't remember which though. speaker-0: I don't I haven't actually seen either of ⁓ I just know I j I've just heard about it. So like I you know, I don't I I'm I couldn't you know, I couldn't differentiate ⁓ speaker-1: My my bad my bad. I I knocked this off topic there. But like speaker-0: ⁓ no, no, no, you're straight, you're straight, you're straight. ⁓ I can yeah. ⁓ but ⁓ so we start the episode getting Sheriff Carey's backstory, and golly, like it so yeah, we see from Gotham. Yeah, ⁓ yeah, ⁓ yeah. She was she was doing something in Gotham. Not fully important, but like she got she got, you know, more Gothamites after her. And they they're willing to leave the city to come find. speaker-1: Basically. speaker-0: Which is crazy to me because Mmm. Mmm. I mmm I don't know. I mean, I think I think I think I don't know. I don't know. I don't I don't think she is just because like we don't even have a Batman yet. So like to be teasing a bat a Batwoman or a Batgirl before we even get a Batman is w would be kind of wild. But I th I feel like they're just try the like the maybe the Gotham thing is kind of j to get us like D F D C fans one excited. And two to know, ⁓ like, there's some actual like crime going on where she's coming from. Like it's not like, you know, s this isn't something she can simply get out of. And we see that in this first scene. ⁓ so yeah, she we speaker-1: Kathy Kane. That's who I'm thinking of. Or Kate Kane. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the 'cause I'm like, wait, it was something like that that was like 'cause I was thinking that that could be her her arc, but it's not even the same person. speaker-0: ⁓ yeah. Yeah yeah. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. But hey, we never know we never know what gap in the future. Maybe there's connections or something. Maybe there's something, you know, whatever. But ⁓ so we learned her that her connection to Zoe is like deeper than just simply cut, you know, covering for somebody in town. ⁓ her. ⁓ yeah. She owes her big time after Zoe saved Carrie, ⁓ and even regenerated her cut off Pinky after, you know, these mobsters or who whatever you want to call them. Pretty much they needed some sort but sort of evidence that they kid they, you know, went and finished the job to their boss. So Zoe said, after after after killing one of the other dudes, goes to the one and says, All right, we're gonna, you know, we'll do we'll we're just gonna cut off your pinky, we're gonna give it to him, and that's gonna be that. But you're gonna owe me. You're gonna owe me because not only can I give you a new pinky and did I get you out of this sitch, but I'm gonna need help too, down the line. speaker-1: And I'm gonna give you a job as well. speaker-0: Yep. And if you think about it, I mean, like at that moment in time, Zoe had already been like planting her seeds in that town because she did all that shit in that diner and nobody working there reacted. Everybody just went on business as usual. speaker-1: What did she say? Call call the someone and ask for a table from what? speaker-0: Right. Right. They were prepared. speaker-1: I was like, ⁓ they as a she are cause like I've been thinking about that. How long did they have their clutches or roots in this town and was doing calling the shots and doing all this? How long? How long did this go on for? Because she already clearly had technology to grow her finger back right then and there. Meaning it didn't start that month. It was been doing it. speaker-0: Yep. Yep. Did wait, did she do it right then and there? Or did w did she just say she was gonna do it? speaker-1: She we don't see her get her finger back, but like it's assumed speaker-0: I'm a yeah. I'm assuming she I I assume that she used the same machine that she used on on John later in the episode. speaker-1: I'm assuming that too. That's what I'm assuming. Or like a smaller version of that machine. speaker-0: Yeah, yeah. But ⁓ but then s ⁓ after you know after seeing that we cut back to where we left off last episode with, you know, how leaving John in the car just to crash into the telephone pole and like and then we w we were kind of curious about where you said what? Alt spamming. I'm dead. ⁓ literally, bro. Like ha ⁓ jewels made the joke earlier off camera that col ⁓ how's alt as you will speaker-1: Alt spamming. speaker-0: a Mar Marvel Rivals term would be jumping out of a out of the driver's side of a car because of how much he does this year. And speaker-1: It's like, dude, you have a ring and the only thing you could think of is like ⁓ car accident. Cars kill so much. speaker-0: I mean I mean, but think about it, 'cause he said he said he also says later in the episode that they can't kill with the ring like that. ⁓ the it's part of you know, he's under oath. speaker-1: Yeah, lethal force is not used. But still, it's also kind of like you you crashed the car, knew he was pinned in there. Car catches fire. If Zoe never shows up, he burns alive. That's a horrible death that Hal is just okay with him having. speaker-0: A hundred percent. Hundred percent. Hundred percent. And like the fact that he kinda got to that point and like we you can say what you want about how Hal is as a character in the show in general, but like the way that he got to that point because of like how much of a threat he John is to like his ring and like, you know, it pushed him to be able to you know, to to to basically kill him. is kind of part of the reason that the episode ends how it ends and John ends up in the position that he ends up in and where he, you know, kind of walks away from the ring. But we'll get to that later. You know, stay tuned. Stay tuned. but you know, he he goes back, you know, how goes back up to John while he's trapped in the car and he he ⁓ he basically t ⁓ and ⁓ and he openly admits that he took ⁓ he took John off the board because John was being ⁓ positioned to replace him. And he's now acting ⁓ exactly like somebody who has let the ring become his identity because it you know, it basically has. He's like he Yeah, exactly, exactly. And like, you know, it kinda ⁓ like goes more into, you know, what like the true inten back to d what we were talking about, the true intentions of the Guardians. Like, you know, this they gave how this ring as a device to be like to do good and to be good. speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-0: But he's letting it to c corrupt him to the point where he's, you know, he's killing his partner. So it's like what is and what does that mean for the gu what the guardians even represent and who they are? speaker-1: Mm-hmm. And I think John did a great job overall because he caught that, you know, after having that conversation and then also being very upset, you know, you know, after finding all the things he finds out, after understanding everything, getting his skin back. And then Hal's just out here, you know, while all this is happening to John, because Hal caused all this to happen to John, or he would be with Hal right then and there. And they would have been able to probably one one save some more people and maybe, I don't know, keep Hal's ring charged because there's no way his ring die just keeps dying and 'cause like and I I thought about this and I seen the theory as well. What if when Hal uses the sentry mode that it drains the battery quicker? On the ring that it does everything. Because if he's always watching everyone with on sentry mode, it would explain why his ring is never charged. speaker-0: app refresh basically. Just l you know, you got you got an app working in the background, your b your phone batteries draining faster, basically. And I could see it. I could see it. I could and yeah, and I think that just put I think honestly that plays more into just Cal how's character. Like of course he just like he left the the the the lantern at his crib that he never even goes to. Like I mean obviously there's that's where his pocket speaker-1: Ollie Ollie's ⁓ I'm I'm still banking on Oliver ⁓ yeah, Oliver Queen. speaker-0: Oliver Queen. That'd be great. That'd be gr but I feel I feel like if they were gonna name drop it, they would have already. But we they could come back around. You're right, you're right. 'Cause I mean he don't speaker-1: got three episodes because look at that ring no more. I seen have you seen the ⁓ trailer? speaker-0: No, I haven't. I have it I have it here in the outline so we could watch it at the end of this if we if you want to. But speaker-1: Okay, let's go let's let's continue there. speaker-0: Okay, yeah. So ⁓ yeah, so I you know, obviously Hal leaves him there and then Zoe pulls up, finds him, and she's like she y yeah, she sh she basically hits him with the ⁓ yeah ⁓ I can I can restore all like you know, let's make a deal. I can restore all your shit. I can restore I can make you good as new. But, you know, you gotta be you gotta be on my side here. You gotta understand that like, you know, I'm Where I can't even remember how she like laid it down for him really. But like she you know, she basically gave you know, told him that she would heal him if if if he i if he helped her out. And, you know, he he he goes along with it 'cause this man literally is burnt to a cris. What else are you supposed to do in that? speaker-1: Head to toe cooked thoroughly. Yeah. Yes. My boy was medium rare. speaker-0: Mm-hmm. And bro, the this the joke about when he said something about like him coming out darker, how his brothers would never let him hear the end of it. ⁓ my god. Okay, but that that brings us to an interesting point though. Because when he was saying that to her, he would he was also saying, you know, ⁓ he said that they thought I got the short I mean the you know the easy end of it because I'm light skinned. And then he asked her why. speaker-1: Well safe but the speaker-0: He asks her why she chose who she chose to you know, to be in this world. And she explains that, ⁓ I'm coming in, you know, I'm coming into this small midwestern town in like as a person of color, ⁓ or as a woman of color, mind you, to get this like you know, ⁓ to ⁓ to be an outsider because like you can get the truth and you can get real like information and l on like how things are and how things work as an when you're when you enter somewhere as an outsider. And like that was like Pretty good. That that that hit me. That hit me. I was like, ⁓ so she's like she's she knows what's going on. Like she ⁓ Exactly. Whereas the Guardians, like we were saying last episode, the Guardians are like almost have that as a blind spot, not not knowing, you know, how these speaker-1: I was Pillage it. As far as we know, they could know and just act like that too. speaker-0: No, no, no, yeah. And I mean and ⁓ at that w like they added it as a blind spot when she pulled up on John's mom back in like nineteen eighty six. So like in the in the years since then they've probably learned and picked up speaker-1: 'Cause now they're trying to use shit storm and all other types types of words and they'd be like, Did I use that correctly? speaker-0: Right, right, exactly, exactly. But but the Manhunter, you know, they're like literally like built to be able to like infiltrate and take down societies and and you know, and world and stuff. So like, you know, she that was just a great tactical move by Zoe and like damn. speaker-1: And now guys, as John was getting his skin replaced, you know, via Alien Tech, Hal went off and met up with that alien group he had John contact. Now this group don't trust Hal. They would much rather blow themselves up to kill him than ever work with him. But nonetheless, he's very convincing and he gets them to work with him. Now, he, funny enough, because he's Hal Jordan. Very arrogant. Tells the tells Anton that, you know Like he didn't know Anton knew John slept with the manhunter. speaker-0: Mm-hmm. speaker-1: So so when Hal lied and said it's making Will, he goes, Anton's like, huh. Didn't didn't take John to ⁓ to swing for the other team. And he goes, actually I was his main target. We we were we were very coitous. And I've been to many galaxies and other places and I, you know, now I just do it one just to get what I can get. speaker-0: I didn't obviously Hal is like, you know, he'll just say whatever sometimes l and like to kind of manipulate like the situation to get you know, get what he wants. But like I wasn't expecting him to take it all there. I d I didn't see that coming. Like for some reason when he asked first when the dude first asked about the coitus, like I thought maybe I like, maybe Hal doesn't even know know what coitus means. And like like I was, you know, I was being naive. I was underestimating my boy Hal. And then he said, you know, he said exactly what you just said. He was like, Well You know, I'm I I ⁓ actually they were pursuing me and I I was like, Bro speaker-1: You can't wanna be the guy that bad, I'm sorry. speaker-0: No, literally, bro, you always got you always gotta be the guy, Bravo. You always gotta be the guy. speaker-1: Come on, dude. You could have just let him think anything, but now you're over here like, no, I I took that down or I got taken down. However that speaker-0: And like I can't I can't even remember, like, did it even help the lie that he was telling them? speaker-1: I mean got them to go to the compound and take him out. That's what it got them to do. Because when when 'cause when Anton gets there, after sending sacrificing two or three guys to as basically bombs, he gets inside Macon's house and questions. ⁓ yeah, definitely kamikaze. But he questions him. And when he questioned him, he came to the conclusion after this is after Will's talking into the manhunters language. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: He spoke with Zoe right before he died and thanked her for the extra time. And he he he went out at like her, you know, in place of her. Now, I don't know if if the manhunter knew this or if, you know, knows this or if, you know, Will knew this. But yeah, no, they're gonna cut your heart out to confirm. So yeah, and I think I'm I'm pretty sure. I mean, I hope so, cause ⁓ He he was looking pretty alive to me when he got it cut out. speaker-0: No, yeah. And I mean, he knew all the other shit. Like, he was ready to answer all those questions. He was ready for everything. And I didn't even I don't even think did we know maybe they said it when they first captured John and like gave him the rundown, but like did we know that that alien dude had had a like a relationship type thing with the manhunter like that? Yeah, when he was a he was asking those questions, I was like speaker-1: We procreate and have children. I was like speaker-0: He said we couldn't. Or like you know, or something like that. I was like, Hey, yo, what where were y'all? I don't know. I don't know. But it was just that was just a it was a really that was a really well acted scene, like from you know, from obviously both parties, like you know, the alien dude and ⁓ Will Macon. ⁓ and 'cause yeah, like 'cause what Macon's like he has to express this like confidence as if he he is the manhunter and knows those answers. speaker-1: We couldn't continue speaker-0: But he also has to like for us, for the viewer, has to express that like fear of like I really can't this up. I really like I really gotta like gotta play this or I'm speaker-1: I think he conveyed that perfectly and you explained that perfectly because that's exactly kinda how I was feeling from the scene from him because it's like he's obviously putting on the front he has suit, but he's all you can also see the fear. And I felt like Anton was able to see through that as well, which is why he pointed out like the certain flaws in their form. So that but that's speaker-0: He said he said he said you never you would never willingly die or like will or or or or you know like ex yeah, you would never accept that speaker-1: Except death or something. Flayed me at the moment I the moment you seen me. speaker-0: No, literally, bro. So like, ⁓ that was too good. And then I'll yeah, like you said, rips the heart out and it's just a normal human heart and it's ooh. speaker-1: So and then at while that was happening, Hal was being bombarded with by and trying to protect town from, you know, basically satellite test strikes. And speaker-0: Well, after I guess, yeah, right after that happened, 'cause they said, Yeah, hey, if you're lying to if you're lying to me ⁓ to to us, that we're we're blowing up this town till we find that junk. So like, what's up? And so ⁓ it's just how's like cockiness, you know, his confidence of like being the guy, being the hero, like, you know, and and and the you know, his him wanting to fulfill the plan of bringing the manhunter back to OA so that he could show the guardians, ⁓ I'm not washed. Y'all not taking this ring from me. Like like I and it you know, it got it got Rushville blown the hell up. speaker-1: Yes, it did. And and and it's insane because the moment he goes back to recharge his ring after fighting so hard, what happens, brother? The speaker-0: Bro, like in that fight was crazy though. Before I mean like the try speaker-1: Wake it themselves by the way. I watched the the doc the the director cut after the directors cut after, ⁓ and they both did that. Like they speaker-0: ⁓ no no ⁓ no no not that fight that ⁓ alm ⁓ my fault. Almost getting to that. I meant the when Hal goes to try to screen and they knock down the water tower and all the the black cloud shit comes out. I was like, yo, and we're getting like we're getting Hal's perspective w wearing those goggles, bro. ⁓ my god, that was That was so sick. I was just ⁓ my god, I was I was I was eating it up. speaker-1: Yes, yes, yes. Cool. That was cool. We went first personal real quick. I thought that was really cool. ⁓ I didn't have any problems with that. I thought it was actually a great strat by the manhunter. And then but it was a great strat to cuff the manhunter to the helicopter. speaker-0: Okay, John, after getting healed by Zoe, ⁓ you know, re returns to the motel. ⁓ and him and Hal have ⁓ they have it out, bro. I'm not gonna lie, never in this show leading up to this, like obviously there's been this conflict and tension about who's gonna get the ring and you know, whatever between Hal and John. I never thought that they were gonna throw hands like this, like this. speaker-1: They implode. Bro. And you know what's funny? Hal never used could have he could have probably used the ring a little bit, but never did. speaker-0: ⁓ hell I mean he okay, you're right. I think you're right. He speaker-1: 'Cause he bubbled the money. He he couldn't use the ring. speaker-0: If he really, really wanted to, he could have used it. But John was making it hard. John w like John was giving him no room to, you know, to breathe, to really do anything. Like he was thr he threw him through the closet. Like, bro. speaker-1: Yeah, that kick booted the giant. speaker-0: Bro. And so that that was just a that was that was a crazy fight. ⁓ that was a crazy fight. And the but then they you know, then they finally ⁓ you know, now that they know Hal is back at the hotel, they they get the big laser, zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom and f and just boom you know, they blast the hotel with John John and Hal in it. speaker-1: Then Zoe pulls up. What n what happens next, Nick? speaker-0: ⁓ but or but bef we gotta note though that even after all the fight, after everything that's happened, as when the thing's getting blown, House still protects ⁓ John with the ring. speaker-1: That's yeah, which was why I think he could have also easily used it in the beginning. Because because like if you had the strength if you have the ring had to charge the bubble to bubble up and save ⁓ it had the strength to do something else. So Right, right. And so but but I was gonna say that being said, ⁓ I think that when we like that's what makes what sets us up when speaker-0: ⁓ you're right. No. No, go ahead. You go you go ahead. speaker-1: ⁓ Zoe comes to the to the ex you know, the site where, you know, they just drone striked or satellite strike. Yeah. And, you know, she's get looks down on Hal, walks down on him with her gun, and then all we see is our our golden boy over there on the on the billboard. I see you. speaker-0: Bro. Cause ⁓ yeah, because right after the explosion, we see John get up and just sprints. speaker-1: No ring, no nothing. speaker-0: No, literally, I'm like, wait, what? And then next thing and then, you know, yeah, Zoe pulls up, talking her shit to Hal. She's about to put him down. And then we see b big old Big John up there on the billboard with the snipe. With the snipe. Ooh. speaker-1: Big John. And and that's the sniper he went after he got his skin back. He had he had a phone call with his parents. I think he broke into the store, the sniper on the spot, and just said, as you can have. speaker-0: ⁓ yeah, you put it Bro, you was talking to his I'm mad as hell as mad as hell. Yeah Yeah, you already know. You already know. ⁓ that was Yeah, for real, because he bo boy was pissed. Aaron Powell speaker-1: How to go do something about. Pierre, right? That's his name. Aaron Pierre. Yeah. Perfect, perfect, perfect acting performance in that moment. I like I felt my to myself like, yeah, no. Yeah, this is this is this is how that would be if I were him in this show. speaker-0: Yeah, yeah. Like it wa it was just so real. It was so real. speaker-1: It was very real. I was I was messing with it. ⁓ you know, then we get our pe our ending, you know. speaker-0: But ⁓ Or yeah, we but yeah, she yeah, but he yeah, he sniped Zoe. You know, she's down, he goes and confirms it with the heart, pulls the heart out. And so, yeah, cryst it crystallizes and and so he d you know, John finally go he goes up the howl ⁓ in all the rubble and everything, takes the ring kinda unceremoniously, you know, it's not like not not in the way that he had always dreamed and hoped, you know, when the Guardians had after that interview he had with the Guardians. speaker-1: It crystallized. speaker-0: Or even, you know, when his parents were were raising him to believe that he was gonna be a Green Lantern. Never thought that he was gonna have to literally pr pry it out off the almost dead hands of how Jordan like to get it. And what you know, it's crit but he gets it, he gets the lantern, he walk he you know, he dips, and then he meets up with ⁓ with with the the guardian ⁓ what she said she gave her name. I can't remember what she said her name was. Li Liana Liana, yeah, Liana. ⁓ she meets it, she he meets up with Liana at the bar. She seems pleased. You know, she's like, you know, the manhunter is dead. Hal is without a ring. John has it now. And John's John's like, nah, like, this doesn't feel like I thought it would be. This just like I did not think I would like I saw what the ring did to Hal. Like, and you know, and I I don't want that to happen to me. And so he basically you know, changes his ⁓ what he's thought his whole destiny or his destiny was his whole life in that moment and and and declines the ring, which is like I don't like it I was I was shook, but like it made so much sense to me and like I felt like it was the right move for him because like everything that he said about the ring and and like you know how it corrupted Hal and all that stuff, it was true. It was true. So like and the fact that he was able to make that It all came true. It all came true. And the fact that he was able to make that decision after literally almost be pretty much being conditioned his whole life to think that that's his destiny and then ⁓ like speaker-1: As they said in the direction of No, literally. Like this was him starting his own journey. And w if he gets a ring after this, which he will, probably, it will be more earned and probably be in a ceremonious way. I think they're gonna make him an Alpha Lantern still because which is the essentially the internal police for them. Because he's policing them. And then I'm pretty sure when we get Nathan Philly in and this next episode or whenever he comes, he's gonna there's gonna be a little bit of that too after ⁓ they have a talk. speaker-0: That's great writing. speaker-1: Because apparently Nathan Filion was a frickin' athletic director before this. Before he was a Green Lantern. He's an athletic director. He's an A a high school A D. Yes. speaker-0: ⁓ that's that's funny. That's funny. speaker-1: Yeah, so just imagine the marine sniper. The marine sniper. speaker-0: And the yeah, and the and the the high school AD. That's crazy. Think about all of all of ⁓ Guy Gardner's like you know college like you know people the ⁓ just acquaintances that were like ⁓ this guy this guy sucks this guy's a dick this guy's annoying and then they find out that he's a Green Lantern, this guy, like this guy. but this is your guy actually funny. I'm I can't for real. I can't for real. But ⁓ man, but let's ⁓ let's let's move it along here just so we can wrap this part of this up ⁓ real quick. But ⁓ moving forward. So now that you know, we f we know that ⁓ you know, after all that happens, it seems like a lot of the rest of the time is gonna take place in twenty twenty six, you know, with Kyle Chen I mean, with Hal Jordan dead, ⁓ you know, go T John. speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-0: And you know, we're gonna probably gonna see g we're gonna see guar guy Gardner at some point. So yeah, like with that being said, I'm thinking, mate, like, is the whole I don't know why John's in prison or like, you know, in locked up or whatever, like in the trailer, but maybe it has something to do with him investigating how in a way he wasn't supposed to or something. And then Gardner pulls up to talk to him to maybe kind of maybe it's the Guardians r ⁓ extending an olive branch to like, yo, we kinda still want you to to you know, to have a ring or something like or I don't I don't know. I don't know. I'm just trying to make it make sense but speaker-1: If he had to be Guy Gartner's like trainee dude, I'd be pissed. speaker-0: ⁓ hell no. ⁓ hell no. And and especially after they know how everything went down before, there's no way they're gonna ask him to do that again. There's no way. That would be that that would be disrespectful, bro. He did everything you wanted and more. speaker-1: ⁓ yeah. He went above and beyond the call of duty, as they say. But that being said, we're coming up on our time limit, folks. So Nick, I'm gonna go ahead and ask you what you excited about for this upcoming week? speaker-0: Literally. Damn right. ⁓ man, I'm really the main thing I'm excited about is Zack Krager's R Resident Evil. ⁓ at time of recording, it's coming out tonight. So I'm gonna be seeing it tonight. And it's g I'm I've just I you know, I I've never played the Resident Evil Resident Evil games. I've only seen like a couple of the old Resident Evil movies, but this trailer looks tough. Zach Krager hasn't missed recently. And ⁓ Austin Abrams also hasn't missed recently. So I am you know, I'm here for it. It looks like a really good time at the movies. And ⁓ it's you know, spooky season is upon us, so let's let you know, let's kick it off. Let's kick it off in a great in a great fashion. So I will re we ⁓ you know, one of ⁓ one or both of us will report back with our Resident Evil thoughts in the next episode. speaker-1: Because I might be able to go see it tonight too. I'm ⁓ catching the flight tomorrow morning, folks. So we'll see. But I'm excited for I Singing Insidious out of the further last night. I thought was good. I have some complaints, but you know, we could save that for another another episode, maybe next week, ⁓ whenever we get into more spooky stuff. But I'm very excited to finish Wayward, which is Netflix, which is Mae Martin's limited series, which centers on Tall Pines Academy, a school for trouble teens with Tony Collette as the unsettling Evelyn Wade. And if you guys don't know who that is, that is the mom from Hereditary. So as you can imagine, she's extremely unsettling because she's very good at it. speaker-0: The queen of an unsettling performance. speaker-1: But other than that, Resident Evil and the Wolverine. And then Prime Time is next week, guys. Comes out Thursday. I got my tickets, 9 45 p.m. Everybody go see it. It's gonna be amazing. That being said, you guys have a great rest of your week and a great weekend. Make sure you get us on our Concession Stand Podcast Eleven ⁓ for t for YouTube, Concession Stand Podcast on TikTok. speaker-0: Yes, sir. speaker-1: And then just concession stand at ⁓ Apple Podcast and Spotify. And that being said, you guys have a great rest of your day. Peace. speaker-0: Thanks for pulling up.