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State of the Program · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  Welcome back to the boundary Corner podcast.
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  I'm Curtis Wilson. I'm Brian siglo buddy.
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  How you doing tonight man? We got a big one tonight.
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  Happy hump day first, happy happy, happy hump day.
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  Cheers. Cheers, buddy.
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  We do have a big one tonight. Our friends, I'll call him that
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  Jonathan tally, Tally bands. In dr.
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  Jeremy counts. Poke pharmacist and on Twitter
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  are going to join us in just a few minutes.
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  Dude, I'm so ready for this state of the program with two
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  lifelong fans or graduate someone from out of the
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  footprint to, to get even more perspective.
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  Dude, I'm ready for this tonight.
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  Yeah, I'm really fired up. We had Jeremy on last year in a
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  Gateway, be different this day last year, only different type
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  of episode considering where we were right after the wit presser
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  there. So we've come full circle a
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  little bit. We're going to hit a little bit
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  of a retro of this. Last season real quick and then
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  we're going to get into kind of everything that we've been.
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  We've been covering the last few weeks.
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  We're going to talk coaches. We're going to talk early
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  Signing Day, we're going to talk recruiting.
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  We're going to talk kind of some future outlook going into 2022.
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  So it's going to be a fun night tonight.
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  Absolutely. And you guys who are out there
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  on social media, if you have questions ideas, thoughts pop
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  them to us. Will definitely bring it up with
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  I Braun. So without further Ado let's
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  bring on tallien. Jeremy.
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  Just sup fellas, how you doing tonight?
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  What up, what up, what's going on?
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  How's everybody doing on this Wednesday night?
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  Hump day drinking drinks, everybody work that we do work
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  today. Oh yeah?
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  We live. I don't know if you want to call
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  it work but that's why I went there.
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  You might be paying me today. You pulled your Marshawn Lynch,
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  then you look so nice. Listen, as this was, this was in
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  the making. Your pet this time completely
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  different circumstances this year Tally's been.
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  He's been consistently messaging us saying he wants to come on.
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  Walk to come on. You know you have and your own.
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  Now we appreciate our moments I'm here.
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  So tally, been running the spaces on Twitter for a bit now
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  and that's that's had some really good Buzz.
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  We had some a lot of former players jump in there really
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  good conversation, really good perspective on kind of what was
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  going on with the program. As we close out the Fuente era
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  as we were looking towards to the next coach is going to be.
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  So we definitely appreciate you for kind of running that show
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  and getting kind of bringing everybody together on that front
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  running that show. And I mean, in giving people to
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  voice, you know, you let me speak on a bronze.
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  Do you let people have the voice tally doing that, which is
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  really good because you get to hear different perspectives.
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  So I'm going to ask this Jeremy, we know your background we found
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  it out last year, everybody knows Talent.
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  Ali, you live in Alabama. Explain to us.
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  Three, how the hell you became a hockey fan?
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  Hey man, I'm a fat motherfucker. I just ask somebody around town
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  who had the best food I said Blacksburg.
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  Nah, man, I'm so I got a brother, he's my blood brother.
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  He's 12 years older than me and he went to the Navy right out of
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  high school. So he was stationed up in
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  Virginia. So whenever we would go see him
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  and shit, he would send me, you know, it was always, Virginia
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  Tech stuff. Send me stuff for my birthday
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  for Christmas stuff like that. Send me, Virginia Tech stuff.
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  Like I said, he was, you know, 12 years older than me.
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  So I'm 36 around that time when he was, there was as one
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  Virginia Tech was popping. You know, I'm sales of Michael
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  Vick Arrow. All of that.
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  So I just started following the program from then on, you know,
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  I was about six during that time.
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  So from then on and I mean he was Virginia Tech found while he
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  was there. He doesn't.
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  Follow college football quite as evident as I do now.
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  But, you know, he still loves the area and talks about
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  Virginia Tech more than any other college team.
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  So that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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  Nice. So you kind of got to experience
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  a little bit of everything from from kind of the rise into the
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  Glory Days and now we, you know, the last decades kind of been up
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  and down at best. So you kind of seen a little bit
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  everything then. Yeah, definitely definitely.
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  It's been a wild ride, man. I mean, I get, you know, like
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  when I first started going on like the Facebook pages and
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  stuff like that because most people they asked me how to how
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  you from, you know, Alabama and you, you know, a lot of people
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  fuck with you you because I taught.
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  You know, I'm saying, like, I just, I don't meet a stranger,
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  and when I got in the Facebook groups, most people ask that
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  question. There's like, you from fucking
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  hell about first of all, they say you from Alabama.
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  Did they say? Some fucked-up shit knocking on
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  Virginia motherfucker, you know, I've been there.
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  Yeah, fuck each other sisters too.
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  Y'all do the same. But, you know, like when I got
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  in the Facebook groups and stuff, people ask me, you know,
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  like, you know, it's cool your Alabama fan, but why when you
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  root for, you know, Alabama Auburn, because That use they've
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  seen you know, national championships in your lifetime
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  and I was like you love what you love man?
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  I mean I guess I'm a glutton for punishment you know I mean
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  that's just not the same guy I fell in love with its hold you
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  till I die that's what it is. I mean I went to Jacksonville
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  State University so I went there to play football and I follow
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  Virginia Tech more than I do. My my own it is what it is man.
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  It's been a fun ride though. Nice Jeremy and Justin.
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  In case somebody had does not know about.
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  What is your quick background of how you became a hockey fan or
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  okey. Not a I mean I'm originally from
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  Dickson County Virginia and I came to VT and 04 and it was
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  yeah. From then on, I was there for a
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  lot of the Glory Days. And I went there filming
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  Blacksburg and out of like I don't fucking leave and so I
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  just kind of didn't and now I own the pharmacy in downtown on
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  Main Street, Pharmacy and sponsor the program's I love and
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  I get to live the life. I can't ask for much more.
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  Nah, you can't man and you are the king there.
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  I still like, I need to see a picture of you.
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  One day with the crown walking down Main Street.
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  I feel like that tell me the truth.
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  Y'all could y'all see Jeremy do. Commercial with the pharmacy
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  like walking down Main Street, Crown maroon and orange own so
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  it's pretty much everything the chain right up there.
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  On my little pirate. Wait, a sec.
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  Wait, was this during the covid? Yeah, that was Paterno.
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  That's a turnovers fertile game. Yeah, we lost.
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  So I retired all of it and you're never win that crown.
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  Again, she was just waiting for an excuse to, get you to get out
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  of that thing, man. She's like, she felt that she
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  probably got the tied to something Virginia Tech relay.
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  She's like, all right, it's curse.
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  You can't wear it anymore. Yeah, she definitely played that
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  up after we lost. He did not want me near it now.
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  It's like my fucking the crown was something I bought.
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  It's like my lordship title. I'm technically a lord I got
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  drunk and bought it and forgot about it.
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  Then I had this title show up in my house I'm like I'm a fucking
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  Lord of Scotland for some fucking reason and the crown I
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  forgot I ordered it. I got shit-faced in order to
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  Crown off at like fucking Etsy or some shit.
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  I'm like, I guess you got a crown now.
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  You had to make it official. And I - thank you.
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  That's why. So clearly, we all are in that
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  same age group. We probably at some point
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  between 2003 and like the last 20 years, 18 years we probably
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  have all passed each other at a game at a tailgate downtown.
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  That's the crazy part. That's like we sit here.
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  We're all roughly the same age. 45 years may be different.
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  And some point in time, we cross each other's path.
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  We didn't know it until Social Media Chat, somebody follows you
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  listen to your podcast start popping in on you and that's the
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  crazy part and it's awesome to see like Callie we mentioned
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  earlier with Tally, doing the spaces, how the community came
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  together because y'all let's be for real, the last year at
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  Virginia Tech football, fan Community.
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  We Were A house divided, we were at each other's throats and and
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  let's start by Looking Back. First, let's go back to August.
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  What was y'all kind of preseason?
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  Expectation record. How good we going to do Etc and
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  Itali, you started on, what did you think going into the season
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  where we were heading? And when the season started, I
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  think I was somewhere around 84. I meant I felt like For lack of
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  a better term. I feel like we were some shit
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  but I feel like everybody else was some shit as well.
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  So I'm always gonna bet on my team being the better shit than
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  the other team, you know what I mean?
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  So it was too many 50, 50 games. And I was like well shit, you
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  know, we played West Virginia, they some shit, we still beat
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  them a couple of things like this.
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  I was thinking eight and for which I wouldn't, you know,
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  happy with. I'm not happy with.
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  I ate it for season. I feel like you know, of course
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  I want to I want to get It to the ACC Championship, at least
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  every yeah, you know, want to do you want to do more than that,
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  but I say ACC Championship. If I can get there as a fan,
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  like I feel good but I was thinking 84 is probably what we
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  were but you know yeah chances to do it but I know where to
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  touch on that later on. Oh yeah, Jeremy where about you?
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  Where were you? Callie was anywhere.
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  Now mundane, I want you with me to look at the games that we
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  probably should have one. We were nominating true.
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  So you so you were right with Curtis.
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  I was right with Tally. I was about About eight wins.
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  I figured we get about 50% of the toss-ups.
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  I figured about six games on the schedule.
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  We're pretty much booked them wins.
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  We ended up losing one of those, so, yep, that kind of, that kind
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  of fucked us. But, you know, we didn't get to
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  any of our expectations, as we saw the season play out.
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  We saw one, we do. You get the song he out of here?
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  There we go. There we go.
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  Well, we came out and we did do the one thing.
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  I said we were going to do. Those guys were focused on UNC
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  all fucking at offseason laser-focused.
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  I knew were going to come out and smack them with goddamn
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  mouth and we did, they were straight up for tenders, but
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  even if they weren't Pretenders, I still think we would have
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  smacked him in the mouth. And one thing aim, I think we
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  would have to. I think the atmosphere that
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  night which it was pretty cool. You were there Jeremy I mean we
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  John you went over to Hardy would tally.
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  I'm assuming you were at home right with me.
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  Yeah, we're at home. That atmosphere that night, I
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  felt like after all the shit that had happened, the previous,
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  you know, 15 months 6:00 and he has PN, and they showed that
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  Stadium, that's see orange. For an instant.
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  He felt like we are getting back to normal.
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  That place was rocked Sam. How couldn't hear himself?
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  Mac? Didn't know what to do and
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  you're right, we came straight out.
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  Pop them in the mouth, it should have been uglier.
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  It should have been a lot uglier than 1710, but aggressive about
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  that. But like, like we all said we
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  had these eight nine when expectations and then it's not
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  getting there and it's not getting there.
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  At what point in the season was y'all's breaking point.
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  And I know most of us had breaking points last year in
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  2020, talk to me after Liberty. When I was about six sheets to
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  the wind in this room, telling Brian FM, I'm done, it's over.
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  But what was yours this year? What was the one where you like?
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  Okay, that's it. Jeremy live on this one pit.
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  Just like it was last year last year, I got shit-faced drunk at
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  frankenteen has and I talked to it was in Drew Alex and Nathan
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  Brennan a bunch of their friends who were still in school at V T
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  and I'm drunk and I will not let them leave because I'm telling
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  them the importance of donating getting involved.
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  But you gotta hear Andrew tell the story of the like and then
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  there's drunk-ass Jeremy like screaming these college kids
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  that they gotta donate more money and they're broke as fuck.
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  They're probably, they're drinking on somebody else's dime
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  and you're telling them they gotta donate to the program.
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  I know exactly the same as this year's and my issue was you came
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  out and we talked about that UNC game that UNC game.
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  It was a religious experience. We're coming back and that was
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  our first game that from koban and for me being in healthcare
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  for last two years that was a big fucking deal to me.
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  And so I'm back. We did.
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  I cried like five times? I gave, it was insane.
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  Like it was meant a lot to me and Emily was just like, okay,
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  like you're doing good. Even the Emily like got involved
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  and she liked, it was just, it felt like the old days again.
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  It felt right. And we were finally fucking back
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  and then we look good for a while and then the will started
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  coming off. And it's I don't I don't blame
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  her guys. I our guys, they, I mean, they
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  played hard. They they're great.
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  We have a lot of Talent on the team, but we had issues with
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  depth. Had issues with scheme, we had a
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  lot of issues and it really started showing its head, I
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  really feel like we had a lot shown us that pit game because
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  that was the only game. It felt like we were straight-up
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  outplayed. Yep.
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  What about you telling you want? You on the same wavelength, or
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  was it before or after? No, man.
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  It was for me. Honestly, it was like, I hate to
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  say it was Middle Tennessee but we want to say, like a Breaking
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  Point breaking. It was, it was, it was West
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  Virginia. Okay.
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  Because going and I can say, you know, the Segway into it like
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  the Middle Tennessee game. It was a team that we should
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  have dominated. You know what I'm saying?
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  We beat them. What was it 35 to 10 13 and 14
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  something like that. You got to have somebody go for
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  150 yards, some kind of we needed something like that.
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  So, going into that West Virginia game, I was already
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  kind of teetering on that edge and then the loser game like
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  that and put up a showing like that against Them motherfuckers
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  like I'm done. You know I'm saying?
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  Because like, I've been to West Virginia one time and you got
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  it. Like I tell people all the time
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  like I'm from Alabama honestly a lot of fucked-up.
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  Shit. West Virginia is a fucked up
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  place like Princeton West Virginia, I was nervous.
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  I'm 62, 370 pounds. I it ain't much that scared me
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  when it comes to life people looking at you.
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  Yeah, the West Virginia they got some crazy-looking motherfucking
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  around them and I was like, what the fuck?
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  Is going on. You know what I'm saying?
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  I got my Virginia Tech shit on. It was when we play.
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  I think it was when we play Duke, two years ago, I came up
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  to go to the Duke game, the game that we got embarrassed in and I
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  was going to stay with my boy big dream and we, his in-laws
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  live in West Virginia. I lived in West Virginia that
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  time. So long story short man, like
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  being in West Virginia and kind of seeing that area, you know.
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  It ain't that I I hate the people but they just ugly mother
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  focusing on like you know what I'm saying?
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  Well what, yeah, we lost that game because I was talking shit
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  before the game. I talked to you before every
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  game. But once we lost that game, the
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  way we lost, it is like the rest of the season.
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  I was like, man. All right, I'll come don't have
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  no confidence in that. You know what I mean?
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  So that was my breaking point for this shit.
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  Yeah, that game pissed me off for two reasons.
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  It pissed me off that we came out as flat as we did and played
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  so awful and then they let us back in and then we can't close
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  the damn deal. Feel like you pissed me off
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  twice for two different reasons in, can I say it was the whole
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  10-year of the previous regime, right?
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  They should have been so fucking up for that game.
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  We've been talking importance of that fucking rival where you
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  clearly shut up'. Clearly show.
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  They weren't go back to the Middle.
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  Tennessee, State game, same thing.
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  Remember those games, especially again, we're going back to the
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  same are like 04. I can remember going and watch
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  Florida A&M play and Tech was up like 38 nothing before half
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  time, it was over, it was over for the inning.
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  You just squish it and you move on, right?
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  But I'm still at the pit game. I'm with Jeremy, I'm at the pit
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  game because the pit game. All right, we're 3 & 2, right?
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  We're still in the ACC race. Everything still in front of us,
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  we controlled our own destiny. At that point Destiny.
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  The crowd was lit. It was a 3:30 game and we come
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  out and just look Dreadful and Again, the defense to hold that
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  offense to 28 points, they played their nuts, all that
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  game. And he also lives literally just
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  was like, has thrown its mouth walking around like a baby like
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  what are we supposed to do in? They had no counter pit punches
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  in the dick and they had zero counterpunch.
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  Yep. On offense.
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  They they did not know what else to do.
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  I still have not watched the pit guy.
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  Well my wife's highlights of it. My boy was getting married that.
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  Get that game. Him and my son had a tournament.
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  So I was back and forth between about our distance driving.
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  Our took, my son's game our to the wedding back to my son's
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  game back home. And, you know, I didn't get to
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  watch any other game and somebody was telling me like,
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  man that defense play good. I said we got the shit beat out
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  of us. Like how did the defense played
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  good? So then I looked at a little bit
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  of the highlights. I was like, damn, okay.
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  We was still in it. You know, at this time and you
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  know, looks like the crowd was high.
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  But by the end, you know, like I don't miss Virginia Tech game,
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  no matter what I'm going to have it on my phone or something, but
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  I was checked out so, you know, I was already done.
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  It was, you know, I was ready to get this shit over.
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  Mitchell went down in Mitchell, would have been like the
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  deciding factor in a lot of those going to special West
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  Virginia. When we couldn't score inside
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  the fucking 10 Rounds. No, no, he know.
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  He played Middle Tennessee, he got hurt.
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  At West Virginia, he got well, no, no, yes, he did.
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  He got hurt with the West Virginia game, living.
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  He got hurt in the Middle, Tennessee.
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  I don't think there's any new information that we
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  lost three games. By literally last plays of the
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  game. West Virginia Notre Dame in
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  Syracuse. Yep.
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  Flip flop. Those games we're not in three.
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  What happens? Jesus, that's hard to say.
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  Honestly, if we were not in three, I think Whit would have
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  let it go another year just because I mean we got really
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  lucky getting pry but this could have turned out really bad for
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  us in the coaching Market because it's fucking crazy this
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  year and we're really, really fortunate that the portal is so
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  fucking open, especially With so many people leaving the, and
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  this this year will be looked back.
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  It is unprecedented the amount of turnover.
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  Brian. Kelly went left fucking Notre,
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  Dame to go to LSU. That's the most insane shit I've
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  ever heard in my life. What else?
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  Ya can't happen. It's a fucking year, Bronco.
• 22:52
  Did it up and he's like, nah, I'm good.
• 22:56
  He pulled his Urban Meyer move, man.
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  So what do you think? What do you think happens?
• 23:05
  98? What happens, 9, and 3.
• 23:07
  We beat you need a working with three or more land.
• 23:17
  Saint Ali was he thing, 93? Right.
• 23:21
  I mean she's flip-flopped them games.
• 23:25
  You know we lost to West Virginia.
• 23:27
  We want you say if we flip flop that Notre Dame and Syracuse
• 23:30
  game? Yeah, all under one less than
• 23:33
  five point loss has. Yeah, so Syracuse came after pit
• 23:37
  so I don't even want to get to the Syracuse game.
• 23:39
  Okay. But Sarah can you came after
• 23:41
  pit? So if we go into the pit game
• 23:43
  undefeated in pit comes in how they came in.
• 23:48
  Does you know game they come to Blacksburg, you know, that this
• 23:53
  game made come there, do we have that?
• 23:55
  I mean, I don't know, but even if that happens and then we lose
• 23:59
  the pit in the same fashion and then we beat Syracuse, you know,
• 24:03
  like that's a I'm jacking off on camera, if that would happen.
• 24:08
  Okay? That's what would happen, first
• 24:10
  of all, but maybe making it, I don't even know what, honestly,
• 24:22
  I don't even know what, I don't know what they would have kept
• 24:26
  for Wednesday. You know what I mean?
• 24:28
  And I guess he would have earned it if if we win those games ish.
• 24:32
  But right, You know, I don't even know how I would feel
• 24:37
  because I'm to the point right now where you just so numb the
• 24:41
  shit, you know what I mean? Like you're used to losing
• 24:44
  Nails. Close game.
• 24:45
  Who didn't think anybody on this call?
• 24:48
  Anybody who listen to the podcast?
• 24:51
  Who didn't think any of these games that we played in was
• 24:53
  going to end the way they did. There's like watching the Notre
• 24:56
  Dame, game we up. You up.
• 24:58
  I went to the Georgia Tech game and we're up by 10 13 points at
• 25:02
  you looking. Like I didn't see this shit for
• 25:04
  15. Safe, like, I don't know points
• 25:08
  and that shit is nerve-racking, you know I'm saying your balls
• 25:12
  is in your stomach, you know, you don't you don't know what to
• 25:15
  do you assholes tight because, you know, we going to lose it.
• 25:18
  And if we end up pulling those games out as like have, we
• 25:22
  turned the corner now. So I wouldn't even, I can't even
• 25:24
  answer your question. I don't know how I would have
• 25:26
  felt even fit you don't. That's kind of how I was feels
• 25:28
  like. I mean, obviously it's a, it's a
• 25:31
  record where it's a hard choice to make.
• 25:34
  If you're it is, it's hard to fire a guy that just comes off
• 25:38
  93, but I don't know if I necessarily feel better about
• 25:44
  the program. At nine and three if we had a
• 25:48
  one of those games where we want it.
• 25:51
  So, I'm in short, I'm it's the same thing we do every fucking
• 25:55
  here. We would have talked ourselves
• 25:57
  into it because we would have been 93.
• 25:59
  We're getting 25 recruiting class and would have been like
• 26:02
  this. Is it there's a we're on the
• 26:04
  track back where we would have done that, you know, we would if
• 26:07
  we could Do we get to the ACC Championship
• 26:33
  in the hypothetical there? So they took it.
• 26:35
  But yeah, I mean it's crazy. Hey, we probably still, you
• 26:40
  know, no-one are a see, we play that we, you know, 9 and 3
• 26:43
  record. Then we get blown out in the
• 26:45
  damn bowl game. And look like, Yes.
• 26:46
  And, you know, we feel like we took two steps forward and one
• 26:50
  step back right. Hire everybody.
• 26:52
  Again, talk to some of the bigger donors, and it was that a
• 26:56
  lot of them would have been, okay, because a lot of them are
• 26:59
  old enough to remember whenever like people wanted to let go of
• 27:02
  beamer around this time, and they, they were kind of
• 27:05
  condition to that. And they saw a recruiting class
• 27:08
  if we would have went down and 3 when Casey some championship
• 27:11
  game, who would have had another year?
• 27:13
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, that was a little bit
• 27:15
  of real hard. Das I'm with you you have to
• 27:19
  have a steel set of balls to fire Coach 9 and 3 with the team
• 27:23
  that had won the ACC title since 2010, right?
• 27:27
  All played in like two games or to ACC Championship than but
• 27:31
  obviously it didn't happen and we moved on and I think we're
• 27:35
  all happy. I think we already see.
• 27:37
  I think today. Was that big like today with
• 27:41
  free? Last week?
• 27:42
  We shall we seen Brent price, presser, we saw today and I
• 27:47
  think we all are happy because I think maybe we're going to get
• 27:50
  the access. We as fans won't like nothing
• 27:53
  needs to be closed. Doors people, all these people
• 27:55
  know what the hell's going on, and that's one reason I'm happy
• 27:57
  because I do think prior coming up from Penn State, knowing his
• 28:01
  background, I think we're going to see a lot Oh yeah.
• 28:09
  Yep. Yep, has he uses I've never
• 28:12
  understood it coming from like, you know, I always look at what
• 28:16
  other people do and try to equate it to what I do.
• 28:19
  So I sell cars for a living, you know, and I've been in
• 28:22
  management and I've been in finance and I've been all over
• 28:24
  the dealership. None of this shit makes sense to
• 28:27
  a customer unless you can show it to him, like somebody would
• 28:31
  tell me. Hey, I want a car, but I don't
• 28:33
  want to pay this for it. And today, see you open the
• 28:36
  door, you put your ass in the seat and everything changes.
• 28:40
  I want a 300 dollar payment, you put them in the in the seat of a
• 28:43
  truck or Tesla and next thing you know you're walking out with
• 28:47
  a thousand dollar payment, you know I've seen it happen come in
• 28:51
  a 350. That's the most I'm paying and
• 28:53
  then boom, they find the right truck car form.
• 28:57
  Leave out the payments. 900 bucks.
• 29:00
  You know, the thing is, is you close off access to a fan but
• 29:03
  you ask them to donate Not stop Sean shit.
• 29:06
  It didn't make sense to me. I don't understand how that
• 29:08
  works and, you know, even with the little shit that prize done,
• 29:12
  like I said, I know we probably get into it a little later.
• 29:15
  The shit that they've done is they've been in showing pictures
• 29:18
  on Twitter tweeting with fans, taking pictures with fans, shit
• 29:23
  like that. Already talking about a spring
• 29:26
  game like you close this shit off your clothes and money not
• 29:30
  only for the program but Jeremy owns, you know Main Street
• 29:34
  Pharmacy. When you got people coming into
• 29:36
  town, they don't want to go see him.
• 29:38
  They know him from Twitter, they don't want to go spend money
• 29:40
  with him, but if you cutting off, people coming in being able
• 29:43
  to do that. It don't matter.
• 29:44
  If it's one day for you, that's one day of business that people
• 29:47
  could get. I never understood that.
• 29:49
  So once that shit happened, like when I started seeing them doing
• 29:52
  shit like that, I'm like the business plan to like fuck
• 29:55
  football to Business Point. It don't make sense to me.
• 29:57
  Yeah, you know, I mean, it's crazy.
• 30:00
  I feel like prize at least, saying the right thing so far
• 30:04
  listening to what He's saying. The business aspect of what
• 30:07
  they're trying to do, make sense people's going to open up their
• 30:11
  wallets and pocketbooks. Lilo pull money from out of the
• 30:16
  titties, whatever they get it from the donut a little bit
• 30:18
  more. It seems like they're actually
• 30:19
  selling a product now, like before it's like, well, you know
• 30:24
  you'll see it in the fall now, it's like all right.
• 30:26
  Well, this is your program year round.
• 30:29
  Here's what we're doing. Here's what we're about, and
• 30:32
  here you are. It's not just what shows up on
• 30:35
  ESPN, on Saturday, or which shows up on the SEC network, for
• 30:40
  the folks that get it. And at least what, finally, the
• 30:44
  Comcast folks will finally get that shit in a couple weeks
• 30:46
  here, but exactly how many not drop Comcast over that bullshit.
• 30:51
  Yeah. Well, I have a cut the cord a
• 30:52
  while back so we just kind of money.
• 30:55
  Fuck, dude, tons of money comes to sports.
• 30:58
  I got like 15 TVs. I can put on any time but I like
• 31:01
  the way you made that point out especially like Jeremy.
• 31:04
  Even if you don't know Jeremy on Twitter and I'm sewing back.
• 31:06
  I go back to myself a 22 if I was downtown getting hammered
• 31:10
  like, okay, I'm going to have a hangover tomorrow.
• 31:13
  Oh, it's a pharmacy right here, let me see.
• 31:14
  We'll have here and get some Advil.
• 31:15
  So I don't have it as bad, but it makes sense.
• 31:18
  They look like they have a plan together where the other one
• 31:21
  were bra makes the point. It we have, we have spring
• 31:24
  season and we have fault. We have nothing in between.
• 31:26
  In we know fans aren't like that.
• 31:29
  We want to know constantly what's going on updates and
• 31:31
  stuff like that. Yes, and I think that's where
• 31:34
  the breakdown happens and pride is doing a great job.
• 31:36
  He's getting out in the community and he's doing a lot
• 31:38
  of things. And don't get me wrong, you
• 31:40
  would CE feu. I'm about like he would go and
• 31:42
  he'd get his hair cut at like Browns.
• 31:44
  Stone Barber Shop, which is a few doors down from me, like,
• 31:47
  you would see them out and about like I've got, like, a sign
• 31:50
  thing from Phu thanking me for, like, taking care of a bunch of
• 31:54
  people in the athletic department, like he did do
• 31:57
  stuff. It's just they, it's like they
• 32:00
  didn't get social media. And what they were supposed to
• 32:03
  be doing, pride gets it and prize.
• 32:05
  Also out there a lot more. I mean, I fucking man on his
• 32:08
  first day here, and he sent me a signed football drop in today,
• 32:12
  like he just, he gets it. Damn, you know.
• 32:14
  That's that's that's awesome, Jeremy.
• 32:18
  So let me ask this because we're gonna get the price on a second
• 32:21
  and I got to know me and Brian we threw hours out there.
• 32:23
  Y'all heard are listed, you know about a month ago, Jeremy who
• 32:27
  are your top three? Before we hired pry who are
• 32:30
  three names on your list, oh God, what was it?
• 32:36
  I was full on the boat. God what was I saying?
• 32:43
  Okay, so Chad you saying okay It was he was brought up a
• 33:16
  little bit, but I didn't really pay attention to it because I
• 33:19
  didn't hear anyone really talking about it and now we know
• 33:22
  why? Because wit is fucking Whitney,
• 33:24
  he's good at what he does, but I want to thank one if everyone
• 33:29
  through. I was actually seemed okay with
• 33:31
  Tony Elliott even though this was not a great year for him,
• 33:34
  but you all knew I was on the Tony Pony last year?
• 33:36
  Yes, we go. I would have been okay with
• 33:38
  that. That I would have really liked
• 33:40
  venables, Jeremy. That's a 3.
• 34:05
  See, I've already forgot about him.
• 34:07
  He came after the Florida press conference, you're like, all
• 34:10
  right, I can't I will erase that.
• 34:12
  I'm gonna hold you to tell you. He came out and he was just
• 34:17
  like, oh well, don't worry about the stars and all this fucking
• 34:22
  bullshit. It's just like fuck.
• 34:25
  He was saying the wrong things and he was doing it low-energy.
• 34:27
  It was, it was such a weird presser.
• 34:29
  He'll ask you guys, Yeah, so I mean freezes my number one you
• 34:41
  know throwing some wild shit out.
• 34:43
  I was like freeze give me Lane kiffin, freeze kiffin, Tony
• 34:49
  Elliot Huff, but it probably in note in the top three would be
• 34:53
  fleas and huff and probably Elliot after that will be my
• 34:58
  three. Okay.
• 35:07
  Pew. He his attitude and how he
• 35:10
  moved. And just things I seen reminded
• 35:13
  me too much of point. I hope you know, and no
• 35:16
  disrespect to that man, you know, he had a job to do.
• 35:20
  He came and did it? He just didn't do it.
• 35:21
  How I like to do it so you can get the fuck on and I didn't
• 35:24
  want to bring another motherfucker, in act like him.
• 35:27
  That's what they pure seemed like to me, that was just me.
• 35:30
  Yeah, I'm just a friend. But now that we, now that we've
• 35:33
  seen him have a pressure because I didn't I didn't look at No
• 35:37
  shit from Billy Napier, for real until, you know, people start
• 35:40
  saying, oh we may have a chance and I was looking at his record
• 35:43
  and then I was looking at this and I was arguing with people
• 35:46
  about why do you think he would be good and he's like, oh no
• 35:49
  this is a good idea. Then he drops that presser and
• 35:52
  I'm like, okay see I knew I got a bad vibe off until he said
• 35:56
  told you so I told you so I need to look at the Sunday after UVA
• 36:02
  games. Y'all didn't listen to the
• 36:03
  episode, I wasn't nervous bleeping wreck because I wanted
• 36:07
  to Coach named ASAP. I mean coach and he didn't know
• 36:11
  we. All y'all are all like me on
• 36:13
  nerves pins and needles or browser.
• 36:15
  Okay. It's got to play out and I'm
• 36:16
  like, no brine. We're going to get screwed.
• 36:19
  We're gonna wind up with Chadwell or somebody like that
• 36:22
  is our next coach. And we will be like this sucks.
• 36:26
  You know where, I don't know what the reason is.
• 36:27
  We've talked about it that entire time the wreck for weeks.
• 36:37
  Yeah. Exactly what he said and then a
• 36:43
  longer went on people start getting more wild and wild and
• 36:46
  they was like o.j., C should be the head coach and I'm like, but
• 36:51
  I was like, hey, y'all getting a little bit too wild?
• 36:55
  I'm saying I was throwing things down just throwing names.
• 36:58
  You like some stupid ass shit out.
• 37:02
  I don't want your name in there. You might get that.
• 37:26
  We were just kind of waiting for the right time so I didn't think
• 37:29
  we were screwed. I just didn't know if I was
• 37:32
  going to like what the name was. So that was my concern, what we
• 37:36
  would like is it wasn't going to be Justin for one thing that was
• 37:39
  the only thing we were going like it won't let me fall into
• 37:41
  anymore. Again the prior Nails been comes
• 37:44
  through with sneaky-ass drops it at 7:45, a.m. for all of us and
• 37:49
  we all go crazy. We, I knew who he was.
• 37:52
  Brian me, when we mention him on the pot as a dark horse.
• 37:55
  Did y'all know who he was? Like, y'all heard from?
• 37:57
  You know. Who the fuck that?
• 37:58
  Man? I had never heard tonight.
• 38:02
  Well I ain't gonna lie. I had her benign.
• 38:05
  Go ahead. Because I listen to y'all, you
• 38:10
  know I'm saying, like I listen to y'all and talk to y'all
• 38:13
  that's the only reason but you know, we got so much shit.
• 38:16
  What, you know, another listeners don't know how much we
• 38:18
  communicate and stuff, but we have so much while shit going
• 38:22
  on. True.
• 38:23
  And I agree. You know what I'm saying?
• 38:25
  Is if you got a filter on, you got a filter sometimes, you
• 38:30
  know, literally like it's so when I seen the name, I seen it
• 38:34
  before, but I do not research. I ain't know who it was.
• 38:37
  I never Attention to Brick cry before it was like, okay, Brent
• 38:40
  prize, I coach and then I went Brian.
• 38:43
  What the fuck do I need to know? Shut up and grab yourself.
• 38:47
  Then this motherfucker starts, his me, with all kind of crazy
• 38:50
  shit. Look at this, that he did this
• 38:52
  and he did this. In his dick is big and bulky.
• 39:04
  Twitter is wow. Yeah, what I'm telling you,
• 39:07
  y'all got to get Y'all people under control of them and yeah,
• 39:10
  I'll be acting like, I'll be the one know Twitter is wild place,
• 39:13
  man. It is although we did find out
• 39:15
  today that FSU has has their own little whole lineup of
• 39:20
  characters to make us feel better about our fan base.
• 39:37
  Cut him off. I wanted to hear.
• 39:39
  Yeah, I don't know what was he about to say?
• 39:42
  No, that would be weird because about to blaspheme the name of
• 39:45
  Deion Sanders. I think problem, somebody said
• 39:49
  somebody said a Hardy AR was coming in there, so we kind of
• 39:57
  had an idea who he was. But you just mentioned, you went
• 40:01
  to Brian Brown fed you some info about you when you kind of
• 40:04
  started knowing, okay, who he is, what he is.
• 40:07
  Is what do you think of him Jeremy?
• 40:10
  Well, the first thing that I looked at was what Penn State
• 40:14
  fans thought and they were all distraught, it's wrong like we'd
• 40:20
  heard his name thrown around a little bit but you all know how
• 40:23
  this fucking goes with everything.
• 40:26
  We've been through this like that.
• 40:28
  We know how this goes where we're so fucking sure.
• 40:30
  And we're hearing from all of our people and everyone's
• 40:33
  hearing from their people and we're all sitting around circle
• 40:35
  jerking each other about what we're going to do.
• 40:38
  Y'all know how it is, so it was hard to tell and then it
• 40:43
  dropped. And I was like, okay.
• 40:47
  And then I started looking into it and I did not realize what a
• 40:52
  great. Damn higher.
• 40:53
  This was, this was a full-on with under the radar higher.
• 40:57
  During a year, we're actually getting like a big splash ire
• 41:02
  would probably not have been our best bet because we would have
• 41:07
  ended up hiring like a big flashy name if we really wanted
• 41:10
  to and splurged on someone instead of actually going with a
• 41:14
  really good coach who, I'm from a really good program with
• 41:20
  actual experience in programs that know what they're doing on
• 41:24
  the P5 level. While also expanding what we're
• 41:29
  going to doing. Do with our staff, with our
• 41:32
  support positions, with our actual coaching staff.
• 41:37
  This was a great hire in every single way.
• 41:42
  Tell me what you think was your first thoughts.
• 41:45
  After the higher. Yeah yeah.
• 41:48
  After the huh? Yes, no again kind of starting
• 41:53
  you know, after I got a little bit information because at
• 41:55
  first, I was like, we fucked up again.
• 41:57
  You know what I mean? Like, we got somebody that
• 42:00
  don't, nobody knows it's going to be some bullshit.
• 42:02
  And then, after I did a little bit of talking and listening and
• 42:06
  shit like that, like, pretty much what Jeremy said, you know,
• 42:09
  you looked into the roots of who the guy is.
• 42:11
  And you know what? Where he came from, how long?
• 42:15
  He's been doing it. The experience that he has the
• 42:19
  connections that he has. This is before I feel like we'll
• 42:24
  get into, you know, what happens when we actually here and talk
• 42:27
  just looking at him on paper, I was like, okay, you know, then
• 42:30
  the next thing you want to know is who is bringing with him and
• 42:33
  how much money did we spend on it?
• 42:35
  You know what I mean? Now just the initial shock of
• 42:39
  not knowing really know much about him but doing a little bit
• 42:42
  of research I was like, yes a good hire, you know.
• 42:44
  I I still Reserve saying it was a B+ higher it's in my opinion
• 42:49
  that's what I thought it was when we first took a look at it
• 42:52
  you know it's changed a little bit now but I thought it was a
• 42:54
  B+ or higher. Yeah and that's the thing I saw.
• 42:58
  I'll let you go. I'll let you finish Curtis.
• 43:00
  What do you got? That's where we were.
• 43:01
  We were like going to be. Plus it was good.
• 43:03
  It was established guy. He's been coaching 20-plus
• 43:07
  years. He'd been at a big program.
• 43:10
  He'd recruited the shit out of state of Virginia, but it was
• 43:13
  one of those things to in reasoning out on Ark.
• 43:15
  And of our core courses, we look back and he had that time
• 43:19
  Virginia Tech in the Night Eyes. He had a time during the
• 43:22
  foundation and something that should have set me off.
• 43:26
  I got a buddy message. Me said, this is going to be a
• 43:29
  job, a lot higher and I didn't think anything of it.
• 43:33
  I just thought he had his hands in it.
• 43:34
  Literally, this is a John Bale on high, right?
• 43:37
  If I'm pronouncing his name wrong, I'm sorry.
• 43:39
  But think about that a guy who was here at the beginning of the
• 43:43
  run, in the 90s in a kid who was here his first big-time gig in
• 43:47
  the 90s here. 25 years later he shows back up.
• 43:51
  Yeah, the thing for me that I kind of noticed after the higher
• 43:55
  and like I liked it initially. I wasn't like again, it wasn't
• 44:00
  that flashy higher but I like the fit I like it from a
• 44:03
  cultural standpoint but like you were talking about Jeremy.
• 44:06
  It's rare that when you look at Media types, talking about a
• 44:11
  higher, look at coaches, talking about a higher, look at fans
• 44:14
  talking about a higher and look at fans from the team that he's
• 44:17
  leaving talking about a higher and it's pretty much a damn
• 44:19
  consensus that it's a home run. You don't see that shit often.
• 44:24
  Now usually some corner of those four are going to be bitching.
• 44:29
  Bitching and complaining about something and I mean fans
• 44:31
  radiant anyway. Yeah but usually you don't have
• 44:35
  the consensus of the fanbase, he's leaving the media.
• 44:39
  And you know, coaches and former players just raving about a
• 44:43
  higher. Like you don't usually get that
• 44:46
  type of consensus. Now and this has been really
• 44:51
  good and prize went out there and prize in his work.
• 44:55
  Like the man is hokey to the Bone and Man, it really flipped
• 45:01
  around like we went from a lot of people being like, hmm, all
• 45:05
  it took was a little digging even even from our fan base,
• 45:10
  which a lot of times is really questionable, even the people on
• 45:14
  the Facebook groups, which good Lord in heaven.
• 45:18
  That is the shit. Wow.
• 45:24
  Shout out to anyone listening on Facebook.
• 45:26
  We appreciate it. The group's there or a clown
• 45:32
  show. Be Hill drum too much.
• 46:02
  He always did have a point about culture.
• 46:04
  He really did. I'm quadrant drink with me and I
• 46:09
  would be here, preaching it. Yeah, Stars don't matter.
• 46:14
  Has a lot to do with it. There's a reason we've embraced
• 46:16
  it so much and that plays into the little things do play into
• 46:20
  it more donation dollars, more support for the coach, more
• 46:24
  support for the program that plays into everything, not just
• 46:28
  for the program. It Itself, but also for the
• 46:30
  community, it means a lot to us. So having someone that gets it
• 46:35
  and really gets out there and done that, that is next level,
• 46:39
  that's, that's something that means a lot and I, I'm glad that
• 46:44
  probably gets it. Yep, we so we feel like he gets
• 46:48
  it in, you know, you talked about, he went to the basketball
• 46:51
  games. He hit the ground recruiting,
• 46:53
  pretty hard. I mean, he kept his class pretty
• 46:55
  well intact. And we'll hit that and a little
• 46:57
  while here, but when you just heard That open impress her.
• 47:01
  He's got a little of the it's a Virginia draw.
• 47:05
  I don't I don't there's gonna be arguments about it.
• 47:07
  It's a Virginia draw. It's a Virginia draw with it
• 47:09
  like Pennsylvania accent behind it but but when you heard him
• 47:14
  talk and I think that was what like popped it like, okay, he
• 47:18
  gets it. He talked about being here in
• 47:20
  the point. Brian May, when we phrased, he
• 47:22
  got hired, Frank, Beamer and Bud, didn't have to be there,
• 47:26
  right? They had to be there for
• 47:28
  Wednesday. They had to, but we'll stay in
• 47:29
  on staff and Frank will stepping down.
• 47:32
  They didn't have to come to this one, did they?
• 47:36
  They didn't have two white now. They didn't have to come to that
• 47:38
  press conference now, did they? But they did not at all.
• 47:43
  And they came. Hey, they went, they knew him.
• 47:47
  They they also we know what we're doing and we know that if
• 47:52
  we are going to bring our guy out, if we have Franken Bud
• 47:56
  behind him, it's going to look really goddamn good.
• 48:02
  We're not dumb. What we're doing.
• 48:06
  Right? That's kind of how I was looking
• 48:08
  at it too, because I was like, pretty much, you know, if they
• 48:12
  hire somebody because, you know, Frank's got a lot of going like,
• 48:16
  going on with Shane being in South Carolina, got a million
• 48:19
  places. He could be, you know, if it
• 48:21
  wasn't something that he really wanted to be a part of because
• 48:23
  you can see which we needed to kind of get away from.
• 48:27
  They might a little bit, you know what I'm saying?
• 48:29
  Because we see them went to his first year every game.
• 48:32
  They talked about Frank more than they did for went a but it
• 48:36
  field Somebody who they didn't fuck with it all.
• 48:38
  Yeah, I don't feel like they would have been there.
• 48:40
  So when you see me motion is the main thing to me like during
• 48:45
  that press conference, it was some emotion from prai.
• 48:47
  It was a meat motion from the guys in the in an audience you
• 48:52
  know, saying Frank but JC it did make a difference, you know what
• 48:56
  I'm saying? He was like, okay?
• 48:58
  Like, that's when I really was like, even after the initial
• 49:01
  higher, even, after seeing, you know, them, talk about the him
• 49:05
  coming in, on the plane and Shit like that.
• 49:07
  Like the presser when he started talking, like he was okay, this
• 49:10
  dude might be the real deal, you know, some of these
• 49:13
  motherfuckers who didn't feed me.
• 49:14
  This bullshit might not be so full of shit.
• 49:17
  You know what I'm saying? It's not all life.
• 49:18
  It's not all the academic support staff y'all.
• 49:24
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 49:29
  I'm still the wildest exchange I've ever seen many people as
• 49:32
  possible. Like I got them in the first day
• 49:35
  but that's only because I just Catch him while he was at
• 49:37
  dinner. Like meeting literally everyone
• 49:39
  at the University Club. Like people are just too.
• 49:44
  It was funny that they they were so hung up on.
• 49:47
  Like well he saw the Spirit Squad.
• 49:49
  Yeah. Because they showed up at the
• 49:50
  fucking airplane road to the fuck, you didn't specifically Go
• 49:56
  and show up and say hello to them.
• 49:57
  They were already there. Man, I'm right.
• 50:01
  That airport a lot going on in the ESPN Blacksburg Chopper to
• 50:04
  like it's hard to get in. Try to give them deep lobbying,
• 50:08
  get them chocolate gz, o God. So every or we all we all feel
• 50:17
  good about it. We all feel like I think he not
• 50:20
  only understands the recruiting game, he understands.
• 50:23
  I think he understands X's and O's I think he understands the
• 50:26
  value of the community, the fan base.
• 50:29
  He understands social media. He's not, he's not crazy on it.
• 50:33
  Like Derrick Jones is talk about him later, but sure you do.
• 50:37
  He knows when to join in. If nothing else, as you read
• 50:42
  that open and presser in like the second paragraph, JC price
• 50:47
  is going to be retained. As associate head coach in
• 50:51
  d-line coach, like you knew kind of right?
• 50:55
  Then like he in a dumbass he knows what he's doing.
• 50:59
  And then you look back, further will shitty coach to God.
• 51:03
  And then the Bourbon Street story which I'm like Jeremy
• 51:07
  you're going to help us get something with pride and JC one
• 51:11
  night with all four of us and we can be like so what did happen
• 51:14
  on Bourbon Street in 1995? We Are Family.
• 52:07
  You know, those names and it's like they're staying It made you
• 52:12
  like again, it goes back to the culture piece.
• 52:15
  Like this guy understands the culture piece ever since you got
• 52:18
  to have some Hoagies, it doesn't have to be a staff full of them,
• 52:21
  but you've got to have people that can teach that.
• 52:24
  Yes keeping JC I think was one of the best moves that we did
• 52:28
  also really throwing JC out there and because the main cares
• 52:33
  and you just feel it, After the UVA game even before that you
• 52:37
  could just feel it. I mean he got up with Dwight
• 52:42
  Vic. I got a random call like it just
• 52:46
  Saturday morning and it was Dwight he was like Jeremy.
• 52:51
  I was like hey what's up man? No one's right was calling me.
• 52:56
  He was like okay so JC wants to get up with Nikki Giovanni
• 53:00
  because he saw the post from the pharmacy because he knew I knew
• 53:04
  Nikki. Key and I don't know why he
• 53:06
  didn't just like, go through the usual channels through the
• 53:09
  university, get a hold over, but he asked, why it to get ahold of
• 53:12
  me to get ahold of Nikki to set up like because you the plug.
• 53:19
  Look at look at your title on this on this screen man.
• 53:23
  Lord, dr. Jeremy, that's okay,
• 53:42
  Supplying the world with good drugs, dick pills and high
• 53:47
  cholesterol medicine, dick pills.
• 53:49
  What else you guys, really? Really cheap him for like a
• 53:52
  dollar bill now really? It's not generic and the generic
• 53:57
  companies actually competed and it went way down.
• 54:00
  Dollar bill dollar dollar pilfer that's what I do.
• 54:09
  You need to do. You need to get worried after
• 54:16
  you take it. We're out for a few more hours.
• 54:23
  Yeah, that's a problem. Going to start dying in this?
• 54:28
  Not going to be fun. You need to go.
• 54:31
  And it still won't go down. I need to get to the hospital
• 54:36
  and will become painful. Trust me, you'll want to go to
• 54:38
  the hospital. Okay, that's what I figured.
• 54:44
  There's a point of diminishing returns and that would be this
• 54:54
  function portion of our program sponsored by Main Street.
• 55:00
  I'm not only talking football, but I always wondered if a woman
• 55:06
  If a woman can take a hard dick for four hours, what's wrong
• 55:09
  with her staying up longer? Because sometimes he just stays
• 55:17
  that's the problem for hours though.
• 55:21
  Yeah so you done but you ain't done.
• 55:23
  That's the problem. Yes.
• 55:43
  Recalibrate. Passing around.
• 56:07
  Yeah, close control 57 good. Yeah we're doing.
• 56:16
  We're doing alright for dinner. Ron Smith.
• 56:19
  Not officially retained but everything.
• 56:23
  Yeah, he's coming back. We got more going on.
• 56:25
  Curtis. What's going on with that?
• 56:26
  We don't know no one. It's very quiet.
• 56:29
  He's not saying anything. I mean he tweeted at some
• 56:32
  recruits today that committed. But it's floated out there, it's
• 56:37
  very little that's coming on. I mean, y'all know we run in the
• 56:40
  same circles. There's not a lot that's really
• 56:43
  being said about, if he's being retained or not in the more, it
• 56:47
  goes on that you kind of start getting a little worried, right?
• 56:51
  Like right, we need him. I feel like with him and JC,
• 56:55
  you're holding down Virginia. You've got you know, Derrick
• 56:59
  Jones probably going to run some North Carolina stuff.
• 57:01
  You've got bone, who's announced But not announce up in Maryland
• 57:06
  Quinn. It's probably gonna run some
• 57:08
  Georgia stuff. I don't know what the holdup is,
• 57:12
  you know, I think we all want him, right?
• 57:15
  Yes. Yeah, I think Smith was the
• 57:20
  probably the best pure recruiter on the staff.
• 57:26
  This past cycle. And and I don't think that he's
• 57:32
  at all a liability on the field. I think that's sometimes what
• 57:37
  you get with a with a good recruiter, sometimes they aren't
• 57:41
  always as sharp on the exercises as sharp and teaching the the
• 57:46
  position. Technological things like that.
• 57:52
  So you know, he's one that can recruit, but he's also not a
• 57:56
  liability coaching his position and I think that's big.
• 58:01
  It's kind of hard to find guys like that off the street,
• 58:04
  especially ones that you've already got a relationship with,
• 58:06
  especially ones that have already recruited, your
• 58:08
  footprint. Yeah.
• 58:11
  They said they say Ryan Smith Wi-Fi into, I mean, no
• 58:15
  disrespect around Smith, but I know People.
• 58:17
  They say she work at like a local gym or something that
• 58:20
  maybe she like a personal trainer.
• 58:21
  Some so Jeremy her to have a when Jeremy.
• 58:26
  This is Jeremy can convert. He might be able to confirm just
• 58:31
  in Germany, Jim and Blacksburg area.
• 58:34
  I've heard, yeah, I heard from some folks, they say is they say
• 58:37
  his wife kind of hot. So you can keep if you can keep
• 58:40
  a good coach and a hot wife on the staff, I don't think nobody
• 58:44
  got a problem with that. So not keep it.
• 58:46
  Let's get right on that. Man, let's figure out what's
• 58:48
  going on? Hold on to him one way or the
• 58:50
  other. Let's talk about the rest of the
• 58:51
  staff of The Hires we've seen so far.
• 58:55
  Did y'all have anybody specifically all wanted?
• 58:57
  Like I'm still on the freaking thing that I wanted Josh, you
• 59:02
  know? Yeah.
• 59:03
  It is. Yeah, this Gaddis Gaddis.
• 59:06
  You got me in back close to home goddess.
• 59:11
  Yeah, I was thinking I was thinking get this would have
• 59:13
  been a, you know, good. Hi just a when you, when you
• 59:16
  hire somebody like like Brett, Pryor who does get it, but it's
• 59:20
  not really like a splash higher. And then we hear about all this
• 59:23
  money that we have to kind of go towards support staff.
• 59:28
  I'm like, okay, we're going to throw That even if it's not like
• 59:33
  a national name is going to be like a regional name that
• 59:35
  everybody knows. You know, that's what I
• 59:38
  expected. The kind of come out of it, but
• 59:41
  not yet, I don't know nothing. All the funds that they have,
• 59:44
  honestly, I don't, I don't know, none of them, we didn't eat.
• 59:47
  I ain't never heard another. I had not either, and it's five
• 59:52
  heard of Bowen. And I had heard of Derrick
• 59:54
  Jones, but I only heard of them second hand.
• 1:00:02
  I'd never heard of Chris Marv long way.
• 1:00:06
  And I did, I did I was talking about Joe Brady,
• 1:00:32
  You know, if we drop a bag on that side of the ball, we don't
• 1:00:35
  need to drop a bag on the defensive side of the ball.
• 1:00:37
  Just because proc and kind of work is guy in there.
• 1:00:40
  As he goes, maybe we drop one point two or higher on that side
• 1:00:45
  of the ball, pull in with Joe. Brady, after that old Carolina,
• 1:00:47
  shit window, Jeff, ready? Shout out to shout out, the darl
• 1:00:50
  X chambray. Actually, where is he?
• 1:01:13
  First of all, I want to hear. Who wants to somebody give me
• 1:01:18
  their first impression with Derrick Jones.
• 1:01:21
  The quarterback coach Derrick Jones is life that motherfucker.
• 1:01:29
  Wow, he talks about cheetah motherfucker.
• 1:01:33
  I used to call like Four Lokos. Pretty much fermented cheetah
• 1:01:37
  blood. He is the embodiment of OG Four
• 1:01:40
  Lokos. I love this man.
• 1:01:42
  I would love this coach exactly what I want to coaches.
• 1:01:47
  I fucking love him, ring more of him so that you down with him.
• 1:01:54
  Rare, you know. Keeping it real.
• 1:01:58
  Like it'd be a bit much for me, you know, saying like the
• 1:02:01
  cheetah shit be a bit much for me, but I like I like what he
• 1:02:04
  do, you know I'm saying? I like him being engaged.
• 1:02:07
  I like as soon as he got here, like he got to work but it kind
• 1:02:11
  of fucked me up because once he got to work like that, I was
• 1:02:15
  like, okay. Everybody else need to be like
• 1:02:17
  this, you know, bars kind of came in and he kind of, you
• 1:02:21
  know, he'd been chilling when he seen him like that.
• 1:02:23
  That much am IA man, he set the breath.
• 1:02:25
  He set the bar higher when he came.
• 1:02:27
  Through because like yeah as soon as his feet hit the ground,
• 1:02:30
  this motherfucker was running. It's like so it's like he got
• 1:02:33
  the job and it's like, Blacksburg to place to be coach
• 1:02:37
  prize where we're at. Let's go.
• 1:02:40
  Yeah, let's go meet. He was literally all gasp.
• 1:02:43
  Once he got the job, all gasp and no brains.
• 1:02:55
  We got ourselves a quarterback coach.
• 1:02:57
  Now Yeah, they don't make a lot of maroon cheetah print things
• 1:03:02
  but you're going to find someone to do.
• 1:03:05
  You get some custom things? Yeah, I mean there's definitely
• 1:03:07
  I mean that's that's a market segment, somebody's got to
• 1:03:10
  populate our own cheetah print. We need right now right now, but
• 1:03:16
  let's get it. Very Jonesy.
• 1:03:18
  I mean he's got the high energy but he's got your philosophical.
• 1:03:21
  You know what you wake up? Jumpsuit onesie with the ass
• 1:03:44
  out. It don't matter.
• 1:03:45
  Damn, I'm winning all different. You got sick.
• 1:03:59
  What is it like 7:30 to 8:30? It's like about a hour of a
• 1:04:03
  constant stream of very motivational, get your mind
• 1:04:07
  right quotes. Like you read some of the stuff
• 1:04:09
  he says and I know the cheetah print and all this stuff is fun.
• 1:04:13
  Loving you see these high energy but you read that shit like it
• 1:04:15
  seems like he's got the balance of what you need to be a coach.
• 1:04:20
  Now Sean Quinn, a little different, Sean Quinn loves
• 1:04:22
  Jesus. I love Jesus and quiz
• 1:04:27
  background. Oh man, y'all tell you played
• 1:04:31
  down in Jacksonville State, you know, Savannah State, right?
• 1:04:34
  They were shit. They were literally the worst.
• 1:04:38
  One of the worst fucking programs in college football,
• 1:04:41
  and that guy went there. And he 12 years 18.
• 1:04:45
  What? Nine, and eight games.
• 1:04:48
  Yeah, I think I got the more we drink, the more than that he
• 1:04:51
  left, you know, I'm saying, he left that a come here to
• 1:04:54
  Virginia Tech to take. We don't even know what he
• 1:04:57
  coaches coaching. Yeah, I'm saying like he got to
• 1:05:01
  trust somebody in them. He got to trust proud or one
• 1:05:04
  another cultures to be able to pretty much leave when he hit as
• 1:05:08
  kind of a legend, because nobody went doing that shit when he was
• 1:05:12
  it. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:05:13
  So for him to go ahead and do that and then say I fuck it, I'm
• 1:05:17
  going to go. Up here and see what I can do.
• 1:05:19
  Yeah. Hit the ground and he hit the
• 1:05:21
  ground running, you know, like he's popped up with his first
• 1:05:25
  day of school. Picture him with us.
• 1:05:28
  You know what I'm saying? Like he a little different than
• 1:05:31
  what he did. We gotta find him a polo that
• 1:05:36
  fits his body shape. Right.
• 1:05:37
  Yes. You know but you know what man?
• 1:05:40
  Like done the pick, the people, that's the happiest right now is
• 1:05:43
  the fucking camera crew to Media people?
• 1:05:46
  Like I know them motherfuckers is a like shout out to the whole
• 1:05:50
  earliest man that the whole early sign of day crew with now
• 1:05:56
  and kind of the war room and stuff.
• 1:05:58
  We ain't seen that shit in six years.
• 1:06:00
  You know I'm saying like you know them camera, guys.
• 1:06:02
  Ditchin of just keep oh yeah let me get this let me get you
• 1:06:05
  talking on the phone to a recruiter or commit that we had
• 1:06:10
  for fan we get excited about shit like that.
• 1:06:13
  Yeah we we saw the same workout videos and practice videos for
• 1:06:17
  six years we tired of that bullshit work out one day Friday
• 1:06:22
  with Taco Tuesday well no fuck about none of that shit.
• 1:06:24
  Give us some shit with. Um, substance behind.
• 1:06:26
  I love big spot Friday as much as everybody.
• 1:06:29
  But I mean, if some point, give me some different.
• 1:06:32
  Give me some different man we want to, you know, I don't know
• 1:06:35
  what the shit. What they was on some when you
• 1:06:38
  talk too much about that old stuff but that was on some nut
• 1:06:40
  shit that was on some bullshit. I was like a, get them
• 1:06:43
  motherfuckers up, body heal. But now when these coaches come
• 1:06:46
  in, you know what I'm saying? They're giving us so much good
• 1:06:48
  content that it's like, for me it's kind of like you've been
• 1:06:53
  captive. You like oh man they trying to
• 1:06:54
  do something to lose you. That they give us a two nights
• 1:06:57
  to us. It's like you trying to hold
• 1:06:59
  back, pull the world on a young one who are vested.
• 1:07:02
  You don't want to get too invested and get hurt.
• 1:07:04
  You know what I'm saying? That's kind of high as when I
• 1:07:07
  met because, like, when I seen the stuff that because I've
• 1:07:09
  always got up for, you know, signing day, early Signing Day,
• 1:07:13
  that's a football fan. That's your dream.
• 1:07:16
  You know, to be able to kind of, you know, I'm at work.
• 1:07:18
  I think I takes Brian earlier like, hey, I'm getting it in.
• 1:07:21
  I got my laptop up. I got my work computer up.
• 1:07:23
  I got my phone and I'm taking a look at At all this stuff.
• 1:07:27
  But usually from what we seen, I mean, you gotta okay?
• 1:07:30
  He's in. Okay.
• 1:07:31
  He's in like, even the videos that they shot now was so much
• 1:07:36
  better. Is it just me and my bullshit.
• 1:07:38
  Like the video was even so much better, just with what we had
• 1:07:43
  today than we've had in the last six years.
• 1:07:46
  So I'm just hoping that they continue like progressing with
• 1:07:50
  it. You know, you got to change with
• 1:07:52
  the times. You got to change your like
• 1:07:53
  that's what key is like that's what kid.
• 1:07:55
  Kids want to see, I ain't saying that on the field on mad about
• 1:07:59
  you not getting to the people with the arguments on that about
• 1:08:02
  jerseys and uniform colors and shit like that like man that
• 1:08:06
  shit that's what's Poppin is what people want to see.
• 1:08:09
  You know we we don't want to go and I think you know things like
• 1:08:14
  Yeah. And in the thing for me like it
• 1:08:16
  seems like there's a plan from that side of things.
• 1:08:19
  Now like the staff is in on the playing, they're contributing to
• 1:08:23
  the plan. It's not just the media team
• 1:08:27
  saying. Alright, are you willing to do
• 1:08:29
  this? Are you willing to do that?
• 1:08:30
  It's the staff is saying, hey we got this going down, bring some
• 1:08:34
  cameras in here. Let's get this thing going,
• 1:08:36
  right? It seems really feels like
• 1:08:38
  there's a plan on the coaching staff side, that's
• 1:08:42
  understanding, how to use. Has media to sell the program
• 1:08:51
  has balls, who the fuck cares? We didn't care and then we
• 1:08:55
  actually started getting it with our program with like the coach
• 1:08:58
  reacting to, like someone committing.
• 1:09:00
  And it's just like, now we're like, oh, fuck, there's a
• 1:09:04
  motion. This is what that feels like
• 1:09:06
  like, and we're eating it up and we're like, let's reflect on a
• 1:09:10
  lot of things, a lot of things. Yeah.
• 1:09:14
  Everything the last six years we've been deprived of from a
• 1:09:18
  fan perspective of CNN and you talk about one, I feel like they
• 1:09:22
  just had the way it looked to me as many people was in that room
• 1:09:25
  today. It's like they just brought the
• 1:09:28
  social media and that whole staff in and said y'all fucking
• 1:09:31
  just hang out in here with us. We're going to be getting calls
• 1:09:34
  from these kids. We're going to be, we're going
• 1:09:36
  to be, you know, getting the faxes or me throwing stuff up on
• 1:09:38
  the board. We're going to be chit-chatting
• 1:09:40
  and just catching that fucking simple.
• 1:09:44
  Yes, I'm going to hang out. Yeah.
• 1:09:46
  And then some I'm not going to do.
• 1:09:51
  I will just take the damn layups.
• 1:10:28
  I know, you know, every now and then like schools like that of
• 1:10:32
  just have somebody who just, I think they had like a tight end
• 1:10:36
  last year or the year before last.
• 1:10:38
  I think his name was exact Cunningham or something
• 1:10:41
  Cunningham like Vanderbilt schools like that or just have
• 1:10:45
  somebody that just when you watch them like they stand out
• 1:10:49
  so much from everybody else on a team because I don't know how
• 1:10:52
  they get there. They just got, you know, more
• 1:10:54
  Talent than everybody around them and I think more about, I
• 1:10:59
  have to look it up to see. I think he may like all is all
• 1:11:01
  SEC team like three years in a row, four years in a row,
• 1:11:04
  something like that. Yeah, he was a monster.
• 1:11:07
  And another thing I bet that was around, you know, everybody
• 1:11:09
  played NCAA like that was when the n-c-double-a was popping.
• 1:11:13
  So I was getting, I was, I was, you know, you don't want to take
• 1:11:17
  your favorite team every time you do one.
• 1:11:19
  So you've got a sorry-ass team. Oh yeah.
• 1:11:21
  And it was one of them and I think Mars was like I got a
• 1:11:24
  check for sure but I think he played linebacker he was maybe
• 1:11:27
  like number 13 or some shit like that. 13 was jumping off the
• 1:11:32
  field on their man. She has baby National
• 1:11:37
  Championship every year. That is very awesome to hear.
• 1:11:45
  We haven't got the only had one official, Tyler bones names out
• 1:11:48
  there. Not official he's down at the
• 1:11:51
  Jags. Although after what happened
• 1:11:53
  with Urban Meyer today, apparently kicking people and
• 1:11:57
  fuck is going on in Jacksonville.
• 1:11:58
  Nevermind awesome. That shit man, goddamn are about
• 1:12:02
  to fake a heart attack again. He cannot compete on a level
• 1:12:24
  playing Ground. Fuck Urban, Meyer and fuck Dabo
• 1:12:28
  and fuck Debo forever, and everyone out there who is really
• 1:12:32
  upset every time I say fuck Debo because they looked same Debo.
• 1:12:37
  Debo is using a curse to launder money.
• 1:12:41
  Fuck all y'all who like that bow.
• 1:12:43
  Fuck everyone. Of you.
• 1:12:45
  Go to Hell whatever. Yeah yeah yeah well you see and
• 1:12:57
  I know that and dabo's a piece of shit and I will forever say
• 1:13:00
  that. It doubles that shit right now.
• 1:13:04
  He owned that complaining about the everything, you know, I'm
• 1:13:06
  sitting at the transporter and shit like everybody ain't got to
• 1:13:09
  deal with it. Like man.
• 1:13:10
  You've been you've been riding her for years, stealing recruits
• 1:13:13
  from other people and getting people to transfer in whatever
• 1:13:16
  they doing and then now all of a sudden you like all this shit
• 1:13:19
  ain't working because it ain't working for you.
• 1:13:21
  Nah man get the fuck out of here.
• 1:13:23
  Yeah he's mad that he doesn't have the best way to get money
• 1:13:26
  to recruit anymore. That's all he's Magic.
• 1:13:32
  Chest while you still playing checkers defensive coordinator
• 1:13:44
  the 80 left his ass. He's just sitting there and it
• 1:13:49
  regardless what you say. I don't think that was a good
• 1:13:51
  coach. I think that was a likely Urban
• 1:13:53
  Meyer. I think you had to get recruits.
• 1:13:55
  I think he does know how to motivate.
• 1:13:57
  I don't think, you know how to coach my shit.
• 1:13:59
  I think he just had the best players.
• 1:14:01
  Obviously you have to basically NFL quarterback for the better
• 1:14:05
  part of eight years. You should win a lot of fucking
• 1:14:07
  games. Yeah.
• 1:14:09
  And don't forget, it's ours board to before.
• 1:14:11
  He's good at evaluating talent, both staff and players.
• 1:14:15
  That's what he's best at. I will get evaluating gvf and
• 1:14:19
  everything went off. Boy came in to Blacksburg I
• 1:14:23
  never thought he would perform like he did.
• 1:14:25
  That was the shift of everything in the AC was was went as void
• 1:14:29
  stepped in to Blacksburg 22 a 23. 2011 2011 Lanes what 23-3 we
• 1:14:37
  couldn't score freaking point with Logan against them and yep
• 1:14:43
  they just a glove box to take out David Wilson and then you
• 1:14:47
  much Logan couldn't get the ball down field and they were able to
• 1:14:51
  score story that At a mere Logan, with Logan, good pretty
• 1:14:55
  good that year, but imagine if we didn't have to burn tie rods.
• 1:14:59
  Redford imagine if we did it. But Logan comes at tight end.
• 1:15:05
  We still blaming. He see you.
• 1:15:07
  Yes, no LSU. You blame LSU and you're trying
• 1:15:10
  to blame me see you the next year?
• 1:15:14
  No, he'd already burned it. I mean tie rod was going to be
• 1:15:18
  the way to win. I always say this in y'all might
• 1:15:21
  get mad and pissed and Grand. They might tell you, kick me
• 1:15:24
  off, Frank was more concerned about winning 10 games then
• 1:15:28
  setting himself up for the national title.
• 1:15:30
  Run a few years later. It's a on a bad argument because
• 1:15:35
  because if 11 happens in its tie rod it's David Wilson.
• 1:15:38
  We had a solid line that year the defense was better in the
• 1:15:41
  Lebanon, it wasn't 10, Danny Coale Boykin, put Logan, Thomas
• 1:15:47
  at court at tight end. That would have, they would
• 1:15:50
  have, they would have wrecked Clemson's ass, probably it would
• 1:15:53
  have been 23, could have been 4323 Tech in both games.
• 1:15:59
  Not that bad to the fact that you had Logan it tight in in
• 1:16:01
  2010, as well. He's that do deserves everything
• 1:16:06
  that's ever given to him. I know everything the monster.
• 1:16:10
  He is a monster in like like grinded through changing
• 1:16:13
  positions in the NFL you imagine how much that takes like yeah I
• 1:16:18
  was the quarterback from the time what?
• 1:16:21
  He was probably in ninth grade until senior in college.
• 1:16:25
  I got drafted they tried me at quarterback for 2 years, to 10
• 1:16:28
  years old. quarterback and then all of a sudden like maybe a
• 1:16:31
  tight end, All right, I'll do it.
• 1:16:34
  And then not only do it, but do it at a high level.
• 1:16:37
  That means we do quite baby play, Baby play, tight end, and
• 1:16:41
  in high school, do about hitting play tight in, and they rejected
• 1:16:46
  him to tie him tight end, just because of his size.
• 1:16:48
  Yeah. Yeah, that's cool.
• 1:16:51
  So he played basically 10 years of quarterback, flips, it
• 1:16:54
  becomes, a essentially not all pro of a pro bowl tight.
• 1:16:58
  End screwed his knee up issue. It sucks.
• 1:17:00
  All right, we've already talked about it once the portal.
• 1:17:03
  There there's gonna be guys in and out a Robinson.
• 1:17:06
  Did it to us today? He gutted us.
• 1:17:07
  He's going to Kentucky. I'm still trying to figure out
• 1:17:10
  why he's going to Kentucky when they run the ball.
• 1:17:12
  Like 78% of time if he's trying to get into pillows, I digress.
• 1:17:17
  Good luck to him. He's a hook.
• 1:17:18
  You want. Sophie always hokey.
• 1:17:20
  Um we know we need to get a quarterback and I'm checking
• 1:17:23
  every day in the portal and seeing who's out there.
• 1:17:27
  Let me ask y'all, give me one position, Jeremy.
• 1:17:30
  You think we got to go after Anna portal and then tally, you
• 1:17:33
  give me one. That's Italian for me.
• 1:17:39
  Whoever Jeremy, you lead and let okay, first thing we get to do
• 1:17:45
  is we get to go out and Braixen. The issue is right now is I
• 1:17:51
  don't know how good he could possibly be.
• 1:17:55
  Because back then wasn't allowed to do anything as true.
• 1:18:02
  I think the problem with Braxton is that there's going to be
• 1:18:04
  limitations even in the best-case scenario for an
• 1:18:08
  awesome. I'm not going to trash my boy,
• 1:18:10
  I'm not gonna track him. I mean he's got arm strength and
• 1:18:14
  concerns. He's got injury concerns.
• 1:18:16
  Those are two things that probably aren't going to change
• 1:18:18
  with the new offensive system. Now we will he be back?
• 1:18:23
  Could he be better in a different office assistant?
• 1:18:24
  Absolutely, let me give the caveat before hand and let me
• 1:18:28
  say that's my primary concern is quarterback right now.
• 1:18:31
  We need Back performance. Can Braxton do that?
• 1:18:35
  I don't know. We have to address that.
• 1:18:39
  That is the number one. We also have to go down and we
• 1:18:43
  have to look at wide receiver. We have to do that.
• 1:18:48
  We're losing tray and I don't know if y'all know this, but we
• 1:18:56
  have someone going to Kentucky now.
• 1:19:02
  Yes, oh yeah. Yeah that there is really good.
• 1:19:06
  Put the drink down. You know, I feel like the main
• 1:19:51
  concern for us and even if Braxton is your number one who
• 1:19:55
  you got behind it, Knox is gone. You got blumberg.
• 1:19:59
  He threw. What?
• 1:20:00
  What? Passed this year, my father.
• 1:20:02
  We put a leading one, you know, he ain't through the he can
• 1:20:08
  complete no passes. And then similar to what Jeremy
• 1:20:12
  said, while receiving, I mean, we are gutted at those
• 1:20:16
  positions, you know, said I our roster management and you know
• 1:20:21
  I'd the portal is took his told ya.
• 1:20:24
  We don't have any receivables and I know say we don't have any
• 1:20:27
  receiver because a lot of those kids that are their young.
• 1:20:29
  I feel like they were Work hard, we just don't know what they can
• 1:20:31
  do. We haven't seen them and we're
• 1:20:33
  not going to have a lot of energy.
• 1:20:34
  A lot of experience, you know, if Caleb Smith is still there,
• 1:20:38
  what is he? He looks good in some games, but
• 1:20:41
  we're not going in the ball. We seen Loft in a little bit.
• 1:20:44
  We seen Jones a little bit, man. We got to get some receivers in
• 1:20:46
  that helpful. So, yeah, quarterback and
• 1:20:49
  receiver. That's my answer.
• 1:20:50
  I'm with that. Hey, he needs a quarterback,
• 1:20:53
  that'll throw to him is Sold like a day.
• 1:21:00
  He's going to go somewhere, but and then he goes to Kentucky.
• 1:21:03
  It's not really about that. What's Kentucky?
• 1:21:06
  Have, they're not going to give him all these like highlights.
• 1:21:10
  They're not going to give him all this.
• 1:21:12
  I mean they may have given them a good ni L package but we could
• 1:21:16
  have given him that I don't know what's going on with a lot of
• 1:21:22
  the transfer portals and you can't get in these kids Minds.
• 1:21:26
  Yeah. Someone with sec, I mean, I
• 1:21:28
  think the eyes of the SEC brings to your game regardless of
• 1:21:31
  whether you're getting a bunch of touches.
• 1:21:34
  Yep. There's a lot more eyes both NFL
• 1:21:37
  and otherwise on those SEC games so that I think that matters.
• 1:21:40
  Well, yeah, yeah I'll never really, you know, like I said
• 1:21:45
  it's hard to talk about that stuff without like really
• 1:21:47
  calling a kid's name and, you know, getting involved in a
• 1:21:51
  shit. But it's like when Hazleton was
• 1:21:53
  at Virginia Tech, I totally understand why you I want to
• 1:21:56
  leave, you know, because the coaches are you got some shit
• 1:22:00
  going on that. You don't like or they're saying
• 1:22:02
  that you're a certain type of person or I wouldn't behind the
• 1:22:05
  scenes. I don't know exactly.
• 1:22:06
  I just know the stories I hear but you leave and go to Mizzou
• 1:22:09
  and what do you really do? They're like yeah, it's so many
• 1:22:12
  places. I feel like he could have shined
• 1:22:14
  even if it wasn't for giatec, like just being in the SEC
• 1:22:18
  doesn't that don't get you paid. It's true.
• 1:22:21
  It's true. That's just how I feel, you
• 1:22:23
  know. Yeah.
• 1:22:24
  Like I feel like a Pleasanton would have stayed at And say, I
• 1:22:27
  don't know what would have happened for.
• 1:22:31
  Go ahead. That's, that's one of the bigger
• 1:22:38
  pieces, is, was the former coaching staff?
• 1:22:40
  And I think with Tavian now, I think he just did Again, I kind
• 1:22:45
  of joke. He's going Kentucky, where they
• 1:22:46
  run the show Ball, but I think one of the other big pieces
• 1:22:49
  though, is it's a chance to get a clean break, right, right?
• 1:22:54
  Clean break, I can go somewhere else.
• 1:22:57
  You know, we don't know everything.
• 1:22:59
  They need their. So in some cases, he's probably
• 1:23:04
  got his degree. Good for him.
• 1:23:07
  It is, that's my big thing if you jump into Portal like after
• 1:23:10
  your freshman year. Like you're behind yourself
• 1:23:13
  because eventually what's going to happen and we've seen guys to
• 1:23:17
  happen to guys, they sit there. And again the poor I will go
• 1:23:21
  somewhere else and then nobody comes and calls.
• 1:23:23
  And now it's like, you're in the portal.
• 1:23:26
  Now, you can't stay at your school and get your scholarship
• 1:23:30
  and finish your degree out. You got to pay for it on your
• 1:23:32
  own. You got to find a place you can
• 1:23:34
  get into, so hope you kept your grades up.
• 1:23:37
  Now, two other positions quarterback.
• 1:23:39
  Obviously number one, we got to find somebody with My experience
• 1:23:42
  with some playing. I also think defensive line
• 1:23:46
  because you kind of think about this, you got Jordan Williams
• 1:23:49
  going Mari going. You've got you know I'm missing
• 1:23:54
  somebody there's two or three more guys going I feel okay
• 1:23:57
  about linebackers I feel okay about the secondary.
• 1:24:01
  I think defensive line issue here where it was a semi
• 1:24:04
  strength. If we don't go get a couple guys
• 1:24:06
  in the portal and I know we got we offered some FCS kid today.
• 1:24:12
  He's a defensive end. I think that's just as
• 1:24:14
  important. Let's go with big happen.
• 1:24:21
  Today national Signing Day. I'm sure that everybody's
• 1:24:25
  workflow. Let me ask this feelings on the
• 1:24:33
  loss of Ramon Brown and orgy. It starts you tally how you feel
• 1:24:37
  about losing those two guys. Literally the day of and the day
• 1:24:41
  before Signing Day. It's crazy.
• 1:24:44
  It's crazy to me is like, you know I'm saying?
• 1:24:47
  I kind of I don't know man, like losing orange.
• 1:24:51
  I feel like that was going to happen.
• 1:24:52
  Anyway with him being a Texas, quarterback out of here.
• 1:24:58
  Even if he showed up on campus, that's just me how to feel like
• 1:25:02
  he was going to be there. Ramon kind of hurt a little bit
• 1:25:04
  just because you know him being a Virginia kid has been so many
• 1:25:07
  Virginia running backs that came through that we didn't get you
• 1:25:11
  know and when we finally had one committed and stay committed
• 1:25:14
  that long, it's like okay we're moving in the right direction
• 1:25:17
  and then he flips you know that definitely hurt but what I do
• 1:25:22
  respect them for is that he did it yesterday, you know, I'm
• 1:25:25
  saying he didn't do it, he didn't do it on earlier.
• 1:25:28
  On a day and I'm saying, I feel like he went ahead and told him
• 1:25:31
  so it was kind of out of that. So kudos to him for that, you
• 1:25:35
  know, it happens. I said, he would have been any
• 1:25:37
  worse, open person if he did flip today, but the fact that he
• 1:25:41
  did it yesterday, you know, same kind of gang some cool points
• 1:25:44
  for me, you know, sometimes when kids leave and I'd be like, I
• 1:25:47
  fuck them, you know what I mean? But you know, I still root for
• 1:25:50
  Ramon brow. He did what he thought he needed
• 1:25:52
  to do for himself and I feel like he kind of did it the right
• 1:25:54
  way, so I ain't mad at him but it hurt a little bit.
• 1:25:58
  Just with him being a, you know, higher ranked Virginia running
• 1:26:00
  back. Oh yeah.
• 1:26:02
  Oh yeah, Dallas got to get point.
• 1:26:06
  We didn't have people toss at our hats in the floor is
• 1:26:10
  happening at one. That was pretty good.
• 1:26:16
  Ramon go up and have fun with fucking hair.
• 1:26:22
  Lend. I guess fucking Maryland could
• 1:26:27
  get a ghost. Would be breaking are did a
• 1:26:29
  thing? Is that a little bit more?
• 1:26:33
  Is that Like we got well. Number one, Thomas came in last
• 1:26:38
  year and did a tour this year. Did a pretty good job.
• 1:26:41
  So, with him being a Freshman, you know, that that helps that
• 1:26:45
  we feel like, okay, we at least got some kind of future there
• 1:26:48
  and we got 19 fucking running bags.
• 1:26:50
  So if you don't have somebody flip, you know, could be a
• 1:26:53
  running back. Yeah, I know.
• 1:26:54
  I mean, Did y'all hear the story of the
• 1:27:43
  kid that flip from South Carolina to Maryland?
• 1:27:45
  Yeah, well, the change shit. Yeah.
• 1:28:23
  14:49, that guy could put together Five 10-win Seasons,
• 1:28:27
  and still be under 500 in his coaching career.
• 1:28:31
  So, here's what I'm thinking. Y'all just put potentially over
• 1:28:33
  here. He'll get fired in two years.
• 1:28:37
  Lets go get him to be our head. Recruiter about three or four
• 1:28:41
  years, my man is recruiting guys to play for him to go to win.
• 1:28:45
  Four games every year. Exactly are recruiting his ass
• 1:28:49
  off. We gotta give him that.
• 1:29:04
  Their second highest commit and probably one of the better
• 1:29:07
  defensive prospects. Kind of softens the blow a
• 1:29:12
  little bit right? Because Brody Meadows.
• 1:29:15
  His highlight people would tell me he softy softy softy.
• 1:29:18
  I saw the kids highlight tape today when he locked on a
• 1:29:21
  Defender and I think that was stuff this year, right, Ron.
• 1:29:24
  I was looking for today. Yeah, most of the tape I'd watch
• 1:29:28
  was Junior tape. I had watching you seeing your
• 1:29:30
  tape on him, it's better. It definitely looks like he's
• 1:29:36
  not yeah. I'm not worried about it, then.
• 1:29:41
  Yeah, exactly is not very flexible with that.
• 1:29:44
  Look like. He's very quick out of his out
• 1:29:46
  of his stance. So we'll see if I can be heard
• 1:29:48
  as is. That's ok.
• 1:29:50
  As you had one person telling you he was soft Curtis.
• 1:29:53
  You had one person. That's true.
• 1:29:55
  I'll all your friends. Nobody else.
• 1:29:57
  That's true everybody up. Everybody else did, you know
• 1:30:00
  just said that he's stiff? And, you know, he's not eat
• 1:30:04
  slow, but he's 67 300 and some pounds on 300 pounds.
• 1:30:10
  But now I don't think he saw, you know, like you said kind of
• 1:30:13
  watching something and stuff. Like to be solved.
• 1:30:15
  I just think that, you know, he's not very athletic but it
• 1:30:20
  can he's got stuff that you can't teach.
• 1:30:22
  So if he gets with the right coach, I think some good stuff
• 1:30:25
  can happen. You can't can I like I told
• 1:30:27
  people as long as we stealing if you going I rather take a no
• 1:30:32
  star kid from Virginia and go to fucking Germany and get a
• 1:30:36
  player. Why the fuck would you go to
• 1:30:38
  Germany to pick up an office of wine?
• 1:30:42
  You know how many white boys? This car I'm fed out there that
• 1:30:45
  you can open the door and say, hey, come here and block and you
• 1:30:47
  go to fucking Germany to get a playing.
• 1:30:49
  What the fuck are we doing? That's it.
• 1:30:51
  Okay, when think when were playing that 44 4D chess man?
• 1:30:57
  Seven, like a diamond, you know where no one's looking?
• 1:30:59
  No one's looking in Germany. We're gonna go get a Germany
• 1:31:01
  kid, that's where no one's looking.
• 1:31:03
  We can win that battle hands down and I mean, there are many,
• 1:31:07
  many, that's another problem. I think, you know, but I know,
• 1:31:09
  we're trying not to trash the previous staff as much here at
• 1:31:12
  this point, but I feel like they didn't try to go win battles man
• 1:31:18
  in the recruiting later. She gave once once once a big
• 1:31:22
  dog stepped in the ring it was like all right well we're all
• 1:31:29
  yeah. Those are stories, right?
• 1:31:43
  No scared as well, like what you see, that's how you get that
• 1:31:47
  mindset of that. You know, we some kind of
• 1:31:50
  fucking deaf and blind school. You don't have the money and
• 1:31:53
  nobody about got any back. We can recruit players here.
• 1:31:57
  Come on, man, you can recruit people.
• 1:31:59
  You can recruit players, you got to build some relationships, you
• 1:32:01
  got to get out here and go to the barbershop in the barbecues
• 1:32:05
  and bullshit like that. You got to be able to talk to
• 1:32:07
  talk with some of these kids man.
• 1:32:09
  Like you got to be able to go into the houses, it needs bad.
• 1:32:13
  Lewis and feel at home. That's what it is.
• 1:32:15
  When time was not that guy. You know I'm saying?
• 1:32:17
  And no disrespect to him that, man.
• 1:32:19
  He like I said he he he had a job to do.
• 1:32:22
  He didn't do a fucking good job of it but he just he had like he
• 1:32:29
  had a stick up his ass. You know I'm saying?
• 1:32:31
  Like I know if he came to somebody and I'm not like some,
• 1:32:34
  you know, hard-ass or something like that.
• 1:32:36
  Well, I can just go anywhere and I ain't scared of shit.
• 1:32:39
  I'm scared a lot of shit. You always talk about welcome
• 1:32:42
  to. If I got to go somewhere and do
• 1:32:45
  my job, I'm gonna go somewhere and do my job.
• 1:32:47
  Yeah, you know I'm saying, I didn't deliver some cars to some
• 1:32:49
  fucked-up ass places. You know, seriously again.
• 1:32:53
  Yeah, I know. I'm from hey man, I need you to
• 1:32:55
  deliver this car and I need you to pick this up and I done did
• 1:32:59
  it. You know, I worked for AT&T for
• 1:33:01
  a while. I had to go in people's houses
• 1:33:02
  and sell them cell phones. I had to be able to in some
• 1:33:05
  fucked-up places, but that was my job.
• 1:33:08
  You know what I'm saying? So whenever Hurt.
• 1:33:10
  Oh what? You don't want to go here?
• 1:33:11
  Oh, he don't want to go here or he don't do it.
• 1:33:13
  We ain't sending nobody that like that.
• 1:33:15
  What the fuck we doing, so? Brent pride and his crew seem
• 1:33:20
  like they at least doing that. You know what I mean?
• 1:33:23
  It seems like they going into the highways and the hedges and
• 1:33:27
  trying to get into some shit. They ain't Helm like the in
• 1:33:29
  houses, they're in schools there.
• 1:33:31
  We connecting with some of the coaches that I feel like kind of
• 1:33:36
  got pushed to the side in. A lot of cases.
• 1:33:41
  I feel like unless we really had a Target on a guy, we weren't in
• 1:33:45
  the school, like, if he wasn't already, Top of our board.
• 1:33:49
  We weren't going in the school. We weren't right.
• 1:33:51
  You weren't paper in the area. Yeah, it's just like you talked
• 1:33:55
  about Brody Meadows earlier you know, I'm saying, his team play
• 1:33:59
  in the state championship and they got the kid Bradshaw on
• 1:34:03
  their team that we should have been on, we all know, but we own
• 1:34:07
  them now. Like you you guys.
• 1:34:09
  Yeah. It don't, it don't matter how we
• 1:34:14
  look at it as fans. That's been looking at a program
• 1:34:18
  looking at football for 36 years.
• 1:34:20
  Yeah. It don't matter how I feel about
• 1:34:21
  a kid if a kid like a bro. Those are the 4 star or three
• 1:34:25
  star, sometimes the to start most of the people that see
• 1:34:28
  them, they're the best fucking football player that they ever
• 1:34:31
  say, you know, Brody Meadows is probably the, the best football
• 1:34:36
  player that anybody in that town has seen in a long time, or he's
• 1:34:40
  probably got the most coverage. You got to be able to go talk to
• 1:34:43
  them, you know, like Grandma and fucking with us, man.
• 1:34:46
  Like I remember they put some on to it.
• 1:34:49
  Yeah. They put some on Twitter like he
• 1:34:51
  didn't even give us an offer. Yeah, they would.
• 1:34:53
  I feel bad that we didn't even go now.
• 1:34:58
  So now you go and you get, you know, you give Brody awful, you
• 1:35:02
  know, that's a four star alignment that you don't know
• 1:35:04
  how you're going to turn out. You give him an offer and then
• 1:35:07
  now we in the running for the Bradshaw kid who I think is
• 1:35:10
  going to be like a dad's new. Some type please we missed out
• 1:35:14
  on Dad's because we slow playing, you know, look at the
• 1:35:17
  kid who they played against in the championship but once the
• 1:35:19
  Kings for he played somewhere who ever played I am the kid was
• 1:35:24
  going to wait for word these hippies, you know what I'm
• 1:35:29
  saying? Like we ain't even offering kids
• 1:35:31
  like that. So when you get people, you get
• 1:35:34
  people like like burning Hill, who talked about, you know
• 1:35:37
  Stars, don't mean nothing. I think what he really is trying
• 1:35:39
  to say is there's a lot of kids in a lot of places that y'all
• 1:35:43
  know that y'all have walked in in Virginia that people just
• 1:35:47
  ain't highly recruited that we can get and we could bring the
• 1:35:50
  tech and make a show out man. They really couldn't.
• 1:35:52
  Because if a dad Know, someone who got the Virginia Tech.
• 1:35:55
  I feel like he could have did exactly what he did in North
• 1:35:57
  Carolina. Who cares about what his writing
• 1:36:00
  was? What was right?
• 1:36:01
  Probably 83, 84 and I agree with you. 100%.
• 1:36:08
  My issue with what be Hill did does, is it is full?
• 1:36:12
  Oh, no starts out matter? No, it's all this.
• 1:36:16
  No, he is, right? To a certain point to a certain
• 1:36:19
  point. Dead on because there is a lot
• 1:36:23
  of under recruited Talent around that is so fucking good,
• 1:36:27
  especially in the 757 and 804. They are so goddamn good, but
• 1:36:33
  there are pretty, but they goes for a lot of other places.
• 1:36:38
  Hmm, But the amount there. Oh my God, it's a hotbed.
• 1:36:45
  We have to actually go in and we actually have to take these
• 1:36:50
  kids. And develop them and take them.
• 1:36:55
  Bring them in. And get them into our culture.
• 1:37:00
  Yep. Yeah.
• 1:37:01
  You got to think about it, I offensive lineman I offensive
• 1:37:05
  lineman that we've had for the last couple of years who was out
• 1:37:07
  that's offensive lineman last year, Christie their song, where
• 1:37:11
  you come from? What was it?
• 1:37:54
  Twitter, like I talked to him on the phone and shit, but I tell
• 1:37:56
  him outside of that is, yeah, y'all had a lot of two star
• 1:37:59
  players, but you had tie rod that was a fucking five-star.
• 1:38:02
  Yeah. Ryan.
• 1:38:03
  What do you got to be more David owns?
• 1:38:04
  A Ford Nevins. Ooh, will you guys.
• 1:38:06
  Did you get one or two of them? Can type of players?
• 1:38:09
  Yeah, they can carry some of them.
• 1:38:11
  Three stars in the three stars will Elevate, what they doing?
• 1:38:13
  Yeah, when you got, you know, somebody back there who is a
• 1:38:17
  beast like David Williams, excuse me, David Wilson, running
• 1:38:21
  the ball, that the line, the line.
• 1:38:24
  I just they meshed together and they did what they had to do for
• 1:38:27
  him to get his yard. Yeah, I've been speak to that
• 1:38:30
  because I've played on some lines in my day that across the
• 1:38:34
  board. They weren't good.
• 1:38:36
  But when you got a running back behind you, that's kind of game
• 1:38:38
  changing. You make you make things work,
• 1:38:41
  you work as a unit a little bit better.
• 1:38:43
  When you know a guy behind you is probably going to make a play
• 1:38:45
  for you. You aren't quite where you need
• 1:38:47
  to be. I mean I have Alonzo Coleman in
• 1:38:50
  the backfield played of Hampton every game.
• 1:38:53
  Dragon free Asia. For the Cowboys couple years,
• 1:38:58
  you know, I've liked for them in high school and we didn't have
• 1:39:01
  the best line. But you know, when you got
• 1:39:03
  somebody like that behind you that you can make a play, you
• 1:39:06
  just get you. Give it a little bit more and
• 1:39:09
  you communicate a little bit better with guys around you and
• 1:39:12
  you just comes together sometime.
• 1:39:14
  I'm gonna make a point we all talking about like getting in
• 1:39:16
  their recruiting and everything listen to price presser today
• 1:39:20
  and something he talked about was like I went up and we
• 1:39:22
  visited bryansk you can Harrison Saint-Germain.
• 1:39:25
  We get two or three other schools, while we were up there,
• 1:39:28
  and the point was made was just because we don't have a guy
• 1:39:32
  coming here from there, doesn't mean there's not somebody there.
• 1:39:36
  That's how you get those three stars, where ninth grade, he
• 1:39:41
  kept mentioned in ninth grade, ninth, grade, ninth grade.
• 1:39:44
  You go in there and you see a kid popping in ninth grade.
• 1:39:48
  You immediately can make that relationship, right?
• 1:39:51
  You get to know, Mom you in Virginia.
• 1:39:53
  You know, Mom, you can have no, dad, the barber, brother Uncle
• 1:39:56
  his trainer his coaches teachers in by his junior year, when he
• 1:40:01
  is ripping up. Fields and you go in your as
• 1:40:06
  first offering the door in other schools come knocking the
• 1:40:08
  relationships built. Could they break the bomb?
• 1:40:11
  Yeah, they could. But the at least you're
• 1:40:13
  attempting, you're attempting to build something you're
• 1:40:17
  attempting to understand. We're going to get in here and
• 1:40:21
  when I don't know, I throw Lauren Johnson out there because
• 1:40:26
  we all know who he is when Lauren Johnson has a ninth
• 1:40:29
  grader coming in. I want the first call when that
• 1:40:32
  kid starts popping. Hey, Brent, you need drive down
• 1:40:36
  this weekend? I got somebody show.
• 1:40:38
  You click starts there right now.
• 1:40:43
  We're ranked 30th. What's y'all's expectation next
• 1:40:46
  year? We're going to probably we don't
• 1:40:48
  probably be somewhere between 25 and 30.
• 1:40:50
  Depending on, who else we signed?
• 1:40:52
  Where's y'all's? Where should we eat next year?
• 1:40:57
  2023 signing class. We're sitting here a year from
• 1:41:00
  now we bring you all back on. Go ahead, book calendar.
• 1:41:03
  I don't know what day it will be, which calendar.
• 1:41:06
  You can bring your own. We're going to talk about
• 1:41:07
  Signing Day. Where do y'all think we should
• 1:41:08
  be now? 1919.
• 1:41:12
  All right, give me give me 19 top. 20 Grammy Saturday.
• 1:41:22
  This sometime in December 2020 to reciting the class of 23.
• 1:41:28
  Where you think we stole it right now?
• 1:41:30
  Yes. So I'm thinking he's only begun
• 1:41:42
  to say we're probably going to be around 30.
• 1:41:50
  You'll say 30 again. Okay, I wanted to be optimistic.
• 1:41:55
  That know what's let me be off missing?
• 1:41:57
  Okay, Hey, Thomas. I think we could do like
• 1:42:38
  somewhere 18 to 24. If we if we pulled 18 to 20 and
• 1:42:42
  20 23, I'd be happy. That's probably a little
• 1:42:49
  optimistic for you for True year one.
• 1:42:53
  But I think we can make it happen.
• 1:42:54
  I think if thinking papering, the state of Virginia like they
• 1:42:58
  have we're going to be able to rebuild some of those
• 1:43:00
  relationships and then no, no, really.
• 1:43:02
  I think that I think that's the big thing that we need to do and
• 1:43:05
  they're doing it. Good job so far.
• 1:43:08
  Obviously, 757 important 804 is more important than it was back
• 1:43:13
  when we used to recruit it pretty well.
• 1:43:18
  You know, and you got to be able to really hit kind of all the
• 1:43:22
  angles from there as well. I mean, you got to got to be
• 1:43:26
  good in DMV. Got to be good Novo got to be
• 1:43:28
  good in South West Virginians in spots.
• 1:43:31
  Got to be good in south side and spots.
• 1:43:32
  You got to know where those where the town is and I think
• 1:43:35
  that's that's what we're going to see.
• 1:43:37
  Improved is a better understanding of the talent that
• 1:43:41
  the state of Virginia has and where we can win those that damn
• 1:43:45
  right. Yeah, it's pretty good.
• 1:43:49
  Everything came down to the fact that we did not recruit the
• 1:43:52
  state of Virginia as much as we should have.
• 1:43:55
  But for six years, Yeah, we we saw a man at the turn of the
• 1:44:09
  century. We were the most well-funded
• 1:44:11
  fucking football program ever. And we're learning right now.
• 1:44:17
  That's where we fucked up. That's what.
• 1:44:21
  Yeah, but the drinks down 15 years ago we had the highest
• 1:44:30
  paid coaches. If we get we're going to have a
• 1:45:18
  spring game, then you already have a spring rain.
• 1:45:22
  We are having will be televised on the ACC Network as well.
• 1:45:26
  So we just don't have a date for his money.
• 1:45:30
  Hey, we were just talking about and we're going to have one and
• 1:45:39
  I want to know. The date is one of those things
• 1:45:41
  I joke with Brian already like we need to notice date ASAP so
• 1:45:46
  we can go ahead and put our hall passes in for that Saturday.
• 1:45:49
  Yeah. We are shocked, we are not shot.
• 1:46:11
  It's with the a good time because you still get all the
• 1:46:20
  fun of the tailgate, you get all the fun.
• 1:46:22
  Actually get to interact with players but you don't have to
• 1:46:25
  like there's no stress of the outcome.
• 1:46:29
  Yeah, it feels like a like a big party.
• 1:46:35
  It feels like a big party. It is a not one of those guys
• 1:46:47
  are starting to quarterback. I don't know which one And you
• 1:46:50
  get on the field and this is that's where we met tap, was it
• 1:46:53
  spring in 2016 and he's literally a kid.
• 1:46:57
  You not tally. The coolest part is, we met that
• 1:46:58
  day? We met Luther Maddie.
• 1:47:00
  We met Daddy. All the endings brothers,
• 1:47:03
  everybody so cordial. You don't feel man, everybody.
• 1:47:05
  I'll nail chat with you. They'll take pictures.
• 1:47:07
  You want an autograph? Don't do anything it.
• 1:47:10
  Me and him, we're rolling. And I called out the corner of
• 1:47:12
  my eye. And I say, Brian, it's Darryl.
• 1:47:15
  Tapp Brian Peaks over my shoulder.
• 1:47:16
  He's like, oh shit. That is tap, he got a son on his
• 1:47:19
  back. Back passed out in a little like
• 1:47:21
  carrier and I'm like, dude, this town we got to go walk and talk
• 1:47:26
  to him and dude we went up to him and man he took pictures
• 1:47:28
  with us. He chatted us up for five
• 1:47:30
  minutes, five minutes. Oh my God is fucking awesome.
• 1:47:34
  But so anybody out there listening, go to spring it.
• 1:47:37
  It's worth it. It's a great atmosphere.
• 1:47:39
  Go downtown, have drinks. Go tailgating seen have a great
• 1:47:43
  fucking time. Go to it, it's going to be on TV
• 1:47:46
  so DVR so you can actually come back if you don't get
• 1:47:49
  Inebriated, big SOB be our man. What do I got unlimited DVR?
• 1:47:57
  So DVR shit. Let's let's listen to hear
• 1:48:02
  y'all. We've been damn near going to
• 1:48:04
  our this has been a fucking blast.
• 1:48:09
  Before we get into the fun stuff, what's your expectation
• 1:48:13
  tally for 2022? When we give me to a bowl game
• 1:48:17
  and win, six areas, give it to a bowl game, right?
• 1:48:20
  Jeremy expectation for 2022, will go to a ballgame ballgame,
• 1:48:27
  a woman, have higher expectations.
• 1:48:29
  But I think what we've talked about here tonight, it's a lot
• 1:48:32
  of roster mismanagement that don't get me wrong. if you talk
• 1:48:37
  to me in six weeks, if we've crushed that portal, Right.
• 1:48:41
  Like, like camera Ward signs on to be a hokie.
• 1:48:46
  I might change my tune here. I'm kind of, I'm kind of with
• 1:48:50
  y'all on the bowl game. I think we might could get 27,
• 1:48:54
  just because of how we schedule is next year.
• 1:48:57
  Let's write the sevens kind of my ceiling in terms of
• 1:49:00
  expectations right now because of the roster.
• 1:49:03
  But like as Curtis was saying, if we get camera War, we get a
• 1:49:07
  couple other guys at wide receiver, we get an offensive
• 1:49:10
  lineman Defensive lineman, come in.
• 1:49:13
  I feel a little bit different especially if those guys are
• 1:49:17
  higher caliber player, we going to Charlotte.
• 1:49:19
  If that happens, we will fucking Charlotte the last I saw.
• 1:49:24
  That's all we have for today so that's good.
• 1:49:27
  Now I want to have a listen. It can't happen.
• 1:49:33
  It's a low potential but it can't happen.
• 1:49:38
  This one. You don't miss it.
• 1:49:40
  If you don't take the shot so it's true.
• 1:49:42
  I'm glad we took the shot. Not, I'm author.
• 1:49:45
  This one of you tally because obviously we're all same age and
• 1:49:48
  this is like the cool things we all do those things.
• 1:49:51
  What's been your most memorable experiences a hokey man?
• 1:49:55
  Right? Probably my first game and
• 1:49:57
  laying was 2016. Okay, me and one of my homeboys,
• 1:50:02
  he's a, he's a hockey fan as well.
• 1:50:03
  We went to college together. We came to the Miami game.
• 1:50:08
  I think it was a Thursday night game.
• 1:50:09
  Yes, it was and we beat the shit out of them.
• 1:50:12
  You know. It was my first you know time in
• 1:50:15
  Lane time, first game live. So that's that's probably my
• 1:50:20
  most memorable experience to this date so far.
• 1:50:23
  Hi and that's only going to be one.
• 1:50:25
  Meet Jeremy. Oh, what about you man?
• 1:50:29
  Because you've been I mean close to basically foot 17, 17 years
• 1:50:36
  of, going to games and shit. What's been your most memorable
• 1:50:38
  experience? Honestly honestly all of them.
• 1:50:44
  All of them did you got a ton when Danny Coale called the pass
• 1:50:49
  at that fucking Sugar Bowl? I was indignant as shit.
• 1:50:55
  The entire light time. The next day, that was the worst
• 1:51:00
  part was, I had people coming up in New Orleans being like you
• 1:51:04
  want a game, you won that game. Just like yeah, I never won that
• 1:51:10
  game and then I puked my fucking ass off the entire way back
• 1:51:16
  home. I don't know if it's alcohol
• 1:51:18
  poisoning or the fact that I ate a lot of raw oysters.
• 1:51:22
  I don't know what to tell you combination.
• 1:51:25
  Yes off all the way from fucking New Orleans, a fucking
• 1:51:32
  Blacksburg over that fucking Sugar Bowl.
• 1:51:36
  You know what? I wouldn't trade it for Fucking
• 1:51:38
  anything in the world, everybody.
• 1:51:42
  Fuck all them. The Pac-12 wrist.
• 1:51:46
  Danny told caught that pass. Fuck all.
• 1:51:48
  Yeah, he did catch FS. Now him a lot.
• 1:51:52
  Everybody knows that Nicole called Temple and regardless of
• 1:51:56
  whether you think he caught that ball, there wasn't enough to
• 1:51:59
  overturn the call now. Oh nothing.
• 1:52:01
  It's nothing. Listen Jeremy, Callie a way.
• 1:52:08
  It came out later that the Pac-12, rest.
• 1:52:12
  So it went off to someone who was a Michigan fan later.
• 1:52:18
  Actually a Michigan graduate, who made the call on that one,
• 1:52:22
  and they got in trouble. Yes, it is our bowl game was
• 1:52:25
  decided by a Michigan fan. They focused a colleague her
• 1:52:31
  face. I'll welcome.
• 1:52:35
  The day I see them. Brandon come back out.
• 1:52:41
  Oh shit. Well isn't a lie Jeremy, this
• 1:52:45
  has been 2 hours of exactly what I thought.
• 1:52:47
  It'd be a lot of fucking fun. A lot of shenanigans.
• 1:52:51
  A lot of good talk. We really appreciate you guys
• 1:52:54
  joining us. And we will have you guys back
• 1:52:58
  again. Hopefully sometime between now
• 1:53:00
  and next December. But if not circled, is y'all
• 1:53:03
  will officially be our state of the program to our Have some
• 1:53:09
  drinks, get the feeling good shindig.
• 1:53:15
  Yes sir, we appreciate being man.
• 1:53:17
  Thank you. It's been.
• 1:53:19
  It's been fun man. I got to watch Jeremy get drunk
• 1:53:22
  because he's definitely drunk. Don't pray.
• 1:53:25
  I'm gonna pray for Emily because I know it's going to be a rough
• 1:53:27
  night to Jerry about to pull that Doc Holliday shit.
• 1:53:30
  I have not yet begun to defile myself.
• 1:53:44
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• 1:53:51
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• 1:54:30
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