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One on One: Scott Cohen (Max Medina) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in. Kiss you, I am all in
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  Speaker 1: with Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast. Okay, hi everybody,
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  Speaker 1: Scott Patterson, I am all in podcast. We are graced
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  Speaker 1: with the presence of one of the you know, the
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  Speaker 1: best actors working out there. He is extremely versatile actor.
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  Speaker 1: Scott Cohen played Max Medino and Gilmore Girls as you know. Um, listen, Pal,
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  Speaker 1: you know I love you. Yeah, okay, but I am
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  Speaker 1: not happy with Max Medina. It's the first time I'm
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  Speaker 1: watching the show. I didn't look and I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if it's me or if it's just Luke that's having
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  Speaker 1: this reaction. But why do you think this is bothering
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  Speaker 1: me so much? I mean, besides, I would say that
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  Speaker 1: it's who I mean, you know, there was competition from
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  Speaker 1: the very beginning. It was like, you know, they put
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  Speaker 1: they they didn't they met us head to head before
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  Speaker 1: everything kind of fell apart from Max and went the
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  Speaker 1: way of Luke. I mean, it's it's to the point,
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  Speaker 1: it got to the point where there is you know,
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  Speaker 1: team Max team Luke. Like online, I mean, you always
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  Speaker 1: win obviously, Um, but it's uh, it's it's intense. It's
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  Speaker 1: like it's a it's a it's a big competition for
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  Speaker 1: Laura for lauralized love. It is for lauralized attention. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so here's here's the big question. I mean, not as Max,
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  Speaker 1: but as but as Scott. Did you ever think that
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  Speaker 1: it was inappropriate to date to date uh a mom
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  Speaker 1: of a student. No, I don't think so. Um you
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  Speaker 1: mean like playing the character or as you Scott Cohen,
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  Speaker 1: do you think it's inappropriate? I am not you. I
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  Speaker 1: absolutely do not think it's inappropriate. I think you know,
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  Speaker 1: if you fall in love with somebody, you fall in
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  Speaker 1: love with somebody, doesn't matter kind of what the situation is.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, there there are things that you
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  Speaker 1: have to kind of negotiate. You know, you can't obviously
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  Speaker 1: you know you can't play favorites and um, you know
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  Speaker 1: you you you you can't say you can't exploit the
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  Speaker 1: relationship with the student, you know, for the mother that's problematic,
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  Speaker 1: which you know I think they um that that didn't happen,
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  Speaker 1: um specifically, but there was kind of you know, there
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  Speaker 1: was a little bit of dealing with Rory in a
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  Speaker 1: way to get to laure Ali, that kind of thing,
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  Speaker 1: which I thought, you know, that could be a problem. Um,
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  Speaker 1: but you never saw it in relationship to other students.
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  Speaker 1: But in reality that's that those are problems. But I
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  Speaker 1: don't think it's it's a it's an issue to date
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  Speaker 1: the mother of a student. I think, um, I mean
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  Speaker 1: interestingly enough, I think what happens in you know, as
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  Speaker 1: a teacher especially, I think that that you're if you're
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  Speaker 1: a good teacher, you spend more time with a parent
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  Speaker 1: maybe like you know, then you might you're in a
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  Speaker 1: bar somewhere or something. I mean, and you get so
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  Speaker 1: intimate with people. It's like doing a movie you get
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  Speaker 1: so into or TV show you get so intimate with people.
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  Speaker 1: You know, those are the people that you meet, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it's uh so I think
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of maybe a natural, um growth out of
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  Speaker 1: out out of being a teacher. I mean, I get
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  Speaker 1: it disagreeably. I could change my mind. I could change
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  Speaker 1: what I say. You know, I put myself in Rory's
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  Speaker 1: shoes as a sixteen year old, and you know, my
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  Speaker 1: math teacher calls and I'm falling a little bit behind,
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  Speaker 1: and he calls my mom and he or no, he
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  Speaker 1: calls me and he you know, we're talking and he said, listen,
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  Speaker 1: you know you're outburst in class, not appropriate, but we
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  Speaker 1: can catch you up. And I know you're late, you
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  Speaker 1: missed the test. Blah blah blah, right, because that's what
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  Speaker 1: happened in the show. Uh. And then he said, and Scott,
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  Speaker 1: would you mind putting your mother on the phone? Right?
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  Speaker 1: And I said, oh boy, I'm in real trouble now.
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  Speaker 1: So I, you know, I run upstairs and I get
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  Speaker 1: on the other phone and I listen in and he says,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I I what is the word? Is this
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  Speaker 1: what actually happens in the show? Now? You left a
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  Speaker 1: message you left I totally forget. You left a voicemail
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  Speaker 1: on on Laurelized home answering machine that said, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because Laurie missed, Rory missed the test, she wasn't allowed
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  Speaker 1: to take the test. She flipped out in class, she
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  Speaker 1: got in Eliza's face, she got in Chad Michael Murray's face. Um,
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  Speaker 1: and you asked her to leave go to library. Wait,
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  Speaker 1: you missed the test, You cannot take the test. You
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  Speaker 1: were late. We don't care about the excuse. Yes, And
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  Speaker 1: then um, and then there was that big scene and
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  Speaker 1: the Headmaster Charleston's office where Lauren comes in and just
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  Speaker 1: you know, just tears him a new one and refers
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  Speaker 1: to him as l Duce and they and he's cool
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  Speaker 1: as a cucumber and just says, listen, the rules are
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  Speaker 1: the rules. Maybe she shouldn't be here, she doesn't have
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  Speaker 1: to be here, she doesn't have to go to Harvard,
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  Speaker 1: so on and so forth, but the rules are the rules,
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  Speaker 1: and she could she So he he bent a little
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  Speaker 1: bit and told you that she can take the test
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  Speaker 1: or she can do some extra credit work. And that
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  Speaker 1: was the message you were leaving for her. You can
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  Speaker 1: take some extra credit. And you were you said, this
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  Speaker 1: message is Ferrory. And I talked with the dean and
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  Speaker 1: he the headmaster, and he said, you can take some
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  Speaker 1: exstra credit and get caught up, and we're going to
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  Speaker 1: get you in a place where you should be. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: and by the way, if your mother is listening, Laurela,
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  Speaker 1: I really enjoyed. Okay, well, I define thought listen. I
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  Speaker 1: just thought, wow, wow, okay, so so so let me
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  Speaker 1: rephrase is what I just said. The question you caught me.
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  Speaker 1: So the question was whether I think Scott Colin thinks
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  Speaker 1: it's a problem. But obviously Max mcdina was a little
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  Speaker 1: kind of you know, he exploited the phone call a
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  Speaker 1: little bit um, but he didn't innocently. You know, that
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  Speaker 1: was Max mcdeina's way, you know, if it was it
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  Speaker 1: was convenient to talk to Laurela, if he had if
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  Speaker 1: he was leaving a message for Rory, but he's busy,
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  Speaker 1: he didn't have time to leave. He didn't. Yeah, exactly, exactly, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it's a problem though, I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: that's the drama of the show, really, I mean, for
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  Speaker 1: Max mcdina at least, I think that's part of the
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  Speaker 1: drama which leave which somehow, I mean, I think that
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  Speaker 1: does play a part in what Laurelized decision in the
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  Speaker 1: end becomes it you know, this whole kind of like
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  Speaker 1: uh confluence of relationships. I mean, I don't know what
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  Speaker 1: was in any or in his mind, but you know
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  Speaker 1: that that there was, that there was those issues were
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  Speaker 1: prevalent for for Laura la that you know might have
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  Speaker 1: led to you know, not being sure about what you
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  Speaker 1: know to be with Max or not, So that maybe
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  Speaker 1: that was really part of the whole thing why she
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  Speaker 1: left Hartford. She couldn't get away with that stuff. At
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  Speaker 1: the country club, right right, come to a small town
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  Speaker 1: and just sort of exactly corrupt that place. There you
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  Speaker 1: go with all her glory and yeah, sparkling personality. Sure,
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  Speaker 1: poor innocent Maxi Medina. So so you're a victim. Okay, exactly,
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  Speaker 1: that's the way I see Scott. What Scott, Scott, what's
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  Speaker 1: with the touching? The world? So there was a lot
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  Speaker 1: of touching. What what this is twenty years ago? Man?
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  Speaker 1: Every time? For me, it's been forever. I never saw it.
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  Speaker 1: It even wasn't even aware. But you you, my friend,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we got to talk about the touching because
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  Speaker 1: the touching, I mean you were like you were rubbing
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  Speaker 1: her elbow with your thumb. This is this is with
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  Speaker 1: Lorela Okay, yes, yeah, yeah, you know this is this
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  Speaker 1: Max Medina's charmed I mean you know he was in
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  Speaker 1: love with Laura Lae. He was, you know, any any
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  Speaker 1: way he can get close to her, he would get
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  Speaker 1: close to her. Man, Boy, did you ever I mean
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  Speaker 1: talk about a full court press? Nice, you were going in,
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  Speaker 1: you were going to the hoop? Oh god, um, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think you'd be allowed to do that these days.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I think you would. You would need permission
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  Speaker 1: to you know, to kind of create that. But I
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  Speaker 1: think that, I mean, I do think that that. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think it was manipulation. I think that it was
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  Speaker 1: you know, um, you know Max's honest feelings about Laura
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  Speaker 1: La and you know he really fell deeply in love
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  Speaker 1: with her and just really wanted to be close with
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  Speaker 1: her in any way that again, and if she accepted it,
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  Speaker 1: then you know, um, it was all good. It was
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  Speaker 1: not you know, it was not an issue. So she
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  Speaker 1: defended very well. I mean she she denied you denied,
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  Speaker 1: you denied you. This is not a good idea, my daughters.
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  Speaker 1: You know, she she you know, she she walked the
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  Speaker 1: high road, if you will. But man, you just the
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  Speaker 1: rubbing some on. You just kept you, just kept kept
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  Speaker 1: said there was there is no high roads. Am I
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  Speaker 1: talking about high road? No? I guess you know. I
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  Speaker 1: to me, it was all just about his you know,
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  Speaker 1: his his his desire and his his um his lust
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  Speaker 1: for her and which he felt was real. It was
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  Speaker 1: real for him. It was totally real for him. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I guess it was real for her too on So
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't you know, until she felt like it wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even remember if there was a reason, was
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  Speaker 1: there a reason that that she left her, or you're
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  Speaker 1: not even up, You're not there yet. No, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. We're dealing with right next. I haven't
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  Speaker 1: moved past the touching. It's driving me crazy, keeping me
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  Speaker 1: up at night. That was in the in the in
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  Speaker 1: the in the diner scene, and you're in your dinner,
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  Speaker 1: in your dinner. No, No, it wasn't in my diner. No.
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  Speaker 1: I met her in Hartford. She was taking in some
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  Speaker 1: classes at the local college there, and she said, maybe
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  Speaker 1: we can meet for some place whatever was and you
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  Speaker 1: you were rubbing her arm, and she didn't look at
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  Speaker 1: you when you started doing it, or looked down. She
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  Speaker 1: just sort of looked out. And I could tell she
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  Speaker 1: was shocked by it, and that not a lot of
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  Speaker 1: men had been touching her in that way. And I
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  Speaker 1: got the feeling she kind of liked it. And then
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  Speaker 1: you did it again after you were telling the story
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  Speaker 1: of your uncle. You would you would have gotten to
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  Speaker 1: her much sooner in the show. If you had done
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  Speaker 1: the same thing as me, the show would have been cut.
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  Speaker 1: It would have been a three year, three year show.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I'm so worked up about it because why
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  Speaker 1: didn't I do that? It just took you a long time,
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  Speaker 1: and it was and it was more appropriate too, because
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  Speaker 1: it was like, I'm not I'm not well, I was
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  Speaker 1: Rory's father's figure. But I can rub a little bit?
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  Speaker 1: Why can't I rub? Everyone could rub? I see you
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  Speaker 1: See that's why, that's what makes you, Scott Cohen, because
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  Speaker 1: you made those choices as the character, and you want
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  Speaker 1: her heart. And the second time you rubbed her, she
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  Speaker 1: looked down at your thumb and then she smiled. She
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  Speaker 1: liked it. She liked you, so I got her my
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  Speaker 1: favorite scene. But are you are you? Are you up
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  Speaker 1: to the where we where we talk at the door
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  Speaker 1: where me guess we're a Cinnamon's wake, where you the
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  Speaker 1: died Babbett's cat died and you come for the date
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  Speaker 1: and she's not there, and then she sees you and
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  Speaker 1: comes home and says, sorry, we gotta read, we gotta
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  Speaker 1: we gotta reschedule, and you and then you, the master
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  Speaker 1: of your craft, say maybe you know, maybe we shouldn't
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  Speaker 1: do this. I really like you, Laura Ala, but I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to waste your time. And it's kind of
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  Speaker 1: a thing. And then you sort of walk off and
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  Speaker 1: she's like no, no, no no no no no no,
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  Speaker 1: we can do it again. And you said, and you
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  Speaker 1: make the decision of like, well, okay, we can we
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  Speaker 1: can try this again. Um but okay, so here's here's
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  Speaker 1: the deal. So you made that choice as the actor
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  Speaker 1: Scott to have Max rubbing. Where did that come from?
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  Speaker 1: Did you talk about that with Lauren before or did
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  Speaker 1: you just lay that on her? No? I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: just I just did it. I mean I think that Lauren, um,
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  Speaker 1: who I experienced as a very accepting uh um actor
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  Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you knew your lines when you
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  Speaker 1: walked in, and uh didn't really um waste a lot
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  Speaker 1: of time. She was you know, she allowed you to
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  Speaker 1: just be who you were. And and that's you know
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  Speaker 1: that I didn't. I don't. I don't think. Um. I
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  Speaker 1: think maybe if we kissed, I think there was maybe
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  Speaker 1: a conversation, um, but you know, not too much and
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  Speaker 1: uh and I think we were in bed ones that
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  Speaker 1: might have been a conversation. But this, no, this was
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  Speaker 1: just uming effect. I've never I've never been asked this
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  Speaker 1: question before. This is I'm I'm a bit stumped. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's just you know it is for me. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it's interesting because the whole, the whole show that started
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  Speaker 1: for me. I don't know what your process was, but
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  Speaker 1: like when I I was offered like three episodes, right
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  Speaker 1: and um and at that time, now it's like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm happy I got I would get that money. At
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  Speaker 1: that time, it was like that's that sucks, um and
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  Speaker 1: the UH. And I actually said no for a long time,
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  Speaker 1: like I didn't want to do it. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't really want to do this. And and then
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  Speaker 1: I saw Lauren at a at some kind of like
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  Speaker 1: publicity thing for this thing that I did, and and
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  Speaker 1: she was just so fantastic and fun and um, and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I think this could
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  Speaker 1: be really fun to do and um. And so so
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  Speaker 1: I took it and there was there was such like
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  Speaker 1: an um, a welcoming kind of sensibility from any and
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  Speaker 1: Lauren when I got on set that uh it allowed
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  Speaker 1: me just to really be free and not not feel
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  Speaker 1: kind of burdened by any kind of what I'm supposed
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  Speaker 1: to do or um. And so I just felt free.
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  Speaker 1: And I have to say, I mean, I don't I
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  Speaker 1: don't think I feel that way. You know, I'm not.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's um not something that uh not that that
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  Speaker 1: particular thing, but you know, feeling that kind of freedom
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  Speaker 1: on a set doesn't come, you know, every day. So
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  Speaker 1: you know, that's one of the reasons I remember it
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  Speaker 1: as such a lovely experience. And besides the the fandom
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  Speaker 1: of it all and being recognized for it like just
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  Speaker 1: you know, and twenty this is what it's a you know,
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  Speaker 1: twenty years later, one years it's crazy, man. It's like, um, anyway,
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  Speaker 1: do you want me to read you I'm gonna read
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  Speaker 1: you the voicemail. I'm gonna take you back. Here we go.
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  Speaker 1: This is the voicemail you left in episode for the
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  Speaker 1: Deer Hunters on on Laurel ez loreal Ize uh answering, Hi,
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  Speaker 1: this is a message for Rory. It's Max Medina calling.
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  Speaker 1: I just wanted to say that I talked to Headmaster
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  Speaker 1: Charleston or Ill do Cha as he is more affectionately
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  Speaker 1: known at the Gilmore Household, and he's agreed to let
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  Speaker 1: you do some extra credit work to make up for
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  Speaker 1: the miss test today. Uh. Now, I'm not sure what
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  Speaker 1: extra credit work uh it is going to be, but
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  Speaker 1: it probably will be time consuming and extremely painful. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: it will, however, such a satist, it's it's just unbelievable. Um.
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  Speaker 1: It will, however, get you back to where I think
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  Speaker 1: you rightfully belong. Rory, don't lose heart. Make this work.
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  Speaker 1: And if your mother is listening, Laurel, I it was
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  Speaker 1: a pleasure encountering you. Hope it happens again. Anyways, see
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  Speaker 1: you in class by. You know, I think that I
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  Speaker 1: think that that's brilliant writing. So so what what to
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  Speaker 1: me that's really about? Um? Uh, Max is is Max
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  Speaker 1: knows laurelized like he got a glimpse of of who
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  Speaker 1: she was and one that she probably would be on
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  Speaker 1: the phone right listening and on this, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: to um or listening to the to the to the
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  Speaker 1: recording UM and that and that he knew that, um,
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  Speaker 1: that the fun of meeting her was going like it
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  Speaker 1: was going to go someplace. And so so to me,
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  Speaker 1: that's actually really innocent kind of you know, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: for lack of a better word, charming kind of conversation.
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  Speaker 1: But it's mainly focused on on Rory. I also think
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  Speaker 1: that Max Medina would have been and I actually don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe this did happen, but I think he would have
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  Speaker 1: been quick to quit that job if Rory needed, If
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  Speaker 1: Rory needed him to be separate from from their life,
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  Speaker 1: I think that he would have been. He would have
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  Speaker 1: found someplace else to go. I think Laurelae was much
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  Speaker 1: more important than his work. Extremely honorable statement. Boy does that? Wow?
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  Speaker 1: Okay that that almost stops the train dead in its tracks. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: you're good. You're good, Scott Cohen, You're good, because I'll
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  Speaker 1: tell you because man, that one move. And even back
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  Speaker 1: that I'm not just saying because if today how things are,
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  Speaker 1: but even back then, I mean, did you ever consider
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  Speaker 1: when reading it and rehearsing it and doing it that,
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  Speaker 1: my god, I am placing Chiltern and in legal hot water.
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  Speaker 1: I am placing Rory in a very precarious position with
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  Speaker 1: her classmates who are already showing aggression towards her, um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, as the new kid, as you know, somebody
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  Speaker 1: who's attractive and super intelligent. And I mean you notice that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean I think I think that. I think that
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  Speaker 1: Max Medina, you know, if there's a if there's a
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  Speaker 1: flaw to his character, it was that laurel I really was.
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  Speaker 1: She took precedence so so it wasn't it wasn't. Um.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he did think about those things. I
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  Speaker 1: think that he probably, I mean, I think he did
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: think about them slightly, like don't you like, don't go
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: this far, to go this far? But UM, I don't
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: think it was at the forefront of his mind. I
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: think at the forefront of his mind was that he
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: met this woman that he was really falling in love
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: with and and and just that um and wanted to
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: be with her. You know. I I think the reason
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: I'm having such a visceral, visceral reaction to all this
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: is because I've never seen it before. And I never
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: realized that Amy through so many, um serious contenders into
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: the ring with her, and that she was deeply considering
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: and you know, just from what I've been hearing about
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: the the lifeline of your relationship on the show with
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: her is that it was very serious and um, you know,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: I just never realized that it was so real, and
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: it was so real for her and for her character,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: and that you guys, you know, were just about together.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, you were it was happening. Um. And I
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: remember reading all the scripts and I knew it, uh,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: but seeing it is a different experience. It's a very
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: powerful experience for me because if you know, all these
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: feelings are coming up, all these sort of uh, you know,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: I was getting a little j But do you feel
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: I'm just curious, do you feel like that in the
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: at the end of like you end up with her
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: in the end? Right? Yeah? So do you do you
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: feel like that you're you're as as Luke, that your
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: your worthiness of Luke, that it went through this kind
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: of uh, you know, this crucible of of of other men,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: and you know that you ended up you know that
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: you were successful in the end. I mean, you know,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: you're probably That's a really good question. And nobody's ever
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: asked me that question before. Not that this is about me,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: it's about you, But you asked me the question. So
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna consider it. Um. Yeah, maybe maybe
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: there was something in him that she was too classy,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: to educated, too too smart for him, too on top
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: of everything that he would never have a chance. He's
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: just a small town guy and he doesn't have big aspirations,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: you know, he's not. Yeah, I think there was some insecurity, there,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: some deep insecurity that he couldn't handle or or make happy,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: a woman who was so obviously spectacular. It was she
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: was just a bright light in that town. Not not
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: that you know that there weren't other bright lights in
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: that town, but she was like really like you put
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: her anywhere, and it's like, wow, um, that's so interesting.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: You know, it's like it's really a credit. I mean,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm not really sure, but I'm pretty sure. Like,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: uh that Amy left after six seasons or something that right,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: like the last season, but I mean, I would imagine
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: you know that the development of character over seven years
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: of the entire time, it's such it's such a credit
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: to that Amy and Dan to kind of reach a
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: point of you know that there was great humility in
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: the idea of small town love, that there was this
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: really um I mean, and you see that throughout the
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: entire show, like small town really created you know, such
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: camaraderie and community and all this kind of stuff. But
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: you know that that small town love wins in the
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: end because it really is an emblem of what real
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: love can and should be. It's not something you know,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: you don't need to be um. You know it everything
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: kind of falls to the wayside, whether it's being you know,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: fancy and elegant and intellectual or you know, what really
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: matters is that you have feelings for somebody and that
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: that's that's that's sharing. That's sharing is uh is of
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: the utmost importance, which is I mean, it's pretty interesting
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: that Amy and Dan. I mean, there's you know, they're
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: they're they're so good at it, and I think I
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: think you know now that I think about another element
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: is uh, he probably was protect Luke was probably protecting
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: himself against any potential breakup. And he you know, I
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: don't know if you've ever been a situation when you're younger,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: I've I've been a couple of those where it's like,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I can handle losing her, So
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: I don't really want to be terribly aggressive. I don't
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: feel like I deserve her anyway. And she's gonna dump me,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: she's gonna find me out, and then I'll be just
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: a wreck, you know. So there's that so interesting perspective,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: very interesting, very interesting. Um. But the touching, God, the touching.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: I watched it over and over again. I was uploaded
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: at night. I wonder there must be a gift out
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: there about touching. I'm sure I was learning I was,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: and if not, I'm sure there will be. Now. I
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: tried it on my wife and she she hit my
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: hand away. She goes, what are you doing? I said,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: I'm Max Medini and you isn't it working? I'm Scott
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: coining you. Yeah, okay, So you weren't given any direction
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: or of course not to touch that, I think, yeah,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: I mean I might, I might have been given. I
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: don't really remember a lot of direction ever. Um, but
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: I'm sure Amy directed a lot. Not everybody directed, um.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: I The only the only other person I really remember
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: directing is Michael Cattleman, unfortunately, UM, who I worked with
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: not too not too long ago. UM, who loved um.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: But no, I don't think. I don't. I don't think
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: so well not to get to actory here. But the
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: reason I'm I'm focused in on the touching is it,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: you know check Off Anton Chekhov talks a lot about
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: the psychology or mom, sorry, Michael check Off, the great teacher,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: the cousin of the nephew of Anton uh talks a
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: lot about the psychological gesture and how you should trust it,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: and that to me, that is the manifestation of the
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: psychological gesture. That is the perfect psychological gesture, which is
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: what makes you, Scott Cohen, which is why you get
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: the jobs, you know, with all of the big people
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: in the big movies. And because you're you trust that
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: you go with that. So maybe there's a little actor jealousy, like,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: damn it, that guy is good, you know to do that,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: because that's a detail. You know, that's one of those
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: details that riles people up. But it it enhances the scene,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: and and and and it says so much without you know,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: you having just say anything, and you just rubbing that outbow,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: you're just rubbing well, Scott, I have to say, I
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: am so flattered that you say this, and I'm not
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: I'm really not joking, um because you know, you you
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: go through life, um never really knowing what your uniqueness
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: uh possibly is. I mean as actors, you know, we
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: really just go from from job to job, audition to audition,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: and you know, you work hard, and most of the
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: time it's working by yourself because you know, you're either
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: you know, on tape or you're you know, even when
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: you're shooting a TV show or a movie. You rarely
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: get like like like uh Gilmore girls, you rarely get
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: that moment where you really understand how to you know
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: that you're you know, uh, interacting with somebody. Um. So uh,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: I thank you for that because that really means a
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: lot that that someone else is seeing, um, something that's
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: kind of unique to me, and um that it just
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: means a lot. So thank you. You're welcome. I mean,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: it's a it's it's a bold choice. It's something that
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: just happened in your research and in the scene with
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: with Lauren. And you know, a lot of actors wouldn't
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: have gone for it. They would have thought about out
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: it maybe, but they wouldn't have done it, or they
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: would have asked permission and then it would have become
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: sort of awkward and and not organic, you know what
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: I mean. So it's I mean, you just did it.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: It was just so so let me ask you this. Uh,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: I'm only five episodes in. What should I prepare for her?
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Am I gonna lose my I don't know, I don't know.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: I actually I've only seen a couple of scenes from
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: all the episodes. I don't think I watched after I
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: was in it. Really, Um, you know, there there's there's
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: the big, big scene at the end um of his
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: you know where he asked her to marry her. UM,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: and I think the show. The show is called A
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Thousand Daisies or something like that. Um, and he buys
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: her all these daisies and she's like in this and
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: she I think, I think she accepts in it. And
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: then I don't even remember how how she how she
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: doesn't marry me, whether, I don't know if there was
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: a wedding. I don't think there was a wedding, and
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: she doesn't come. I forget exactly how that turned out.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: And then I remember, yeah anyway, yeah, and then I
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: remember talking. I remember over the years, you know, over
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: those those few years, talking to Dan and Amy, you know,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: they were going to bring me back, and then that
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: never happened. And then UM, yeah, M interesting. And you're
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: in New York right now, right upstate New York are
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Oh and you've been there since uh the pandemic started
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: maybe or yeah, well yeah, I got actually just as
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: the pandemic was starting, I got rid of my apartment
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: in New York. UM, mainly because we were not spending
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: that much time there and then and we didn't want
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: to really pay for it anymore, so we um, so
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: we gave it up. But then and at the same
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: time the pandemic kid so it's like kind of normal,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: we wouldn't be there. Um And you know, now if
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: I worked there, it's it's a bit of an issue,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: like I have to find a place to stay usually,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: but it's um. But I'm up here in the country
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: and it's fantastic and I love it right right right. Uh,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: there's a yeah, there's a lot to be said. I
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: I sold my house in l a too, and we
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: went out a little bit to the country. Well I
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: wouldn't say country, but of California. Yeah, yeah, we didn't.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: We didn't make it out of California, but we still may.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Are you you're from back east, though, aren't you. Yeah,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: I'm from Philadelphia, was born in Philadelphia, grew up in
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: South Jersey. Yeah, and I spent you know, a lot
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: of my summers in New York City because my sister
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: was living with somebody there and married to somebody there,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: so we would go up every summer. I'd go up
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: every summer in high school and just spend the summer
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: up there with her. Let's get back to this, uh,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: this this role that you play that has has has
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: has had this sort of this nuclear bomb in my life.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: So when you first got the script, did you have, um,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: any kind of misgivings and you may have addressed us
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: already about a teacher dating a mom, did you have
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: any kind of thoughts you could put children in jeopardy?
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Did you have any kind of thoughts about what this
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: could do to Rory, you know, because that's the thing
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: that I'm I'm responding to responding to. Yeah, unfortunately not.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: I mean when I got the script, all I really
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: saw was the romance. Hmm, That's that's what I really saw.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe I should have steen more of the
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: children thing that that would have been a little bit
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: more kind of But you know, there were never any
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: scenes between me and and the headmaster except in that
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: in the office, And I think if they were, if
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: they had written scenes for me to take me out
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: of the relationship and put me in the school more,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: you know, to you know, to deal with that like
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: a like a friend that you're talking to that's like,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: don't do this, Um, then I think I would have
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: thought about a little bit more. But um, there was
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: nothing in the script that was that was telling me
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: to um, to do anything other than what the romance
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: was dictating. I love the fact that ultimately what we
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: discussed today was your love of her, and it was
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: a romantic ideal. It was the one. She was the one,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: and you came on here, brave soul that you are,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: and you know you truly were a rival. You were
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: a real rival. I mean, this was certain that was
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: that was never talked about. That was never talked about.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: It wasn't talked about like I was a rival or
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: that was never in any direction. It was never any
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: like the writer you know, Amy never uh, at least
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: with me. She might have talked about with the writers
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: like there might have been like this is the rivalry
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: where you set this up, but never as a direction
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: like this is a this is an issue. I mean
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: we did, are you did? Did we go head to head? Yet?
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: We know? But I now I that scene just popped
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: into my head where we're standing yeah, yeah, yeah, and yeah,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: but isn't that just one scene? I think we just
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: had that one scene? So yeah, So I mean that's
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: the only time we really you know, um, and I'm curious,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: I wonder if there was any kind of dialogue that
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: was about Luke, you know, uh, I don't think so,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: but I don't remember anyway. That wasn't that what that
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: was set up by writing, not necessarily by you know, performance,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: I think, which is better because because then I'm not
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: I'm not thinking about the competition. I'm thinking about just
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Laura La. I'm just thinking about like that's the goal.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: The goal is Laura La. But the competition plays out
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: in the writing of it, not not in the Uh.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: You know, if you're constantly playing like the jealousy, then
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: you're not You're not really playing the romance, the romance,
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: which ends up being what people I think become attracted to.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: I agree with you because I think in the in
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: the Foyers, you know, I was playing fear and insecurity
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: and really being threatened. I mean I really sensed that
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: this was gonna go bad for me and then I
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: was gonna lose her. So I do. I do remember that.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: But of course you cover and you try to be
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: the tough guy, and she's mine and this is what
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: I do for her. And I mean it was it
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: was it was schoolyard childish stuff, but it's it's there.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: We are, Um, yeah, there are exactly. I want to
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: do a little thing called rapid fire. You ready for this? Alright?
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Alright here we got I know. How do you take
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: your coffee with cream? Can you smell snow? Yeah? Are
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: your team Logan? Just yeah? Sure? Because you from the Northeast,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: I can smell, so you can smell snow man on
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: the ground, you know, peeing the snow, you smell being
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: the snow. There you are you Team Logan, Team Jess
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: or Team Dean. You don't give for corpt I don't
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: even I'm not even Logan. I'm not sure who Logan is.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Jess I think was Jess? Was was his Milo? Right? Yeah? Uh,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: I have to say Team Dean. Okay, why because I
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: really got along with We were early on when he
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: that was like his first thing, right, that's j Jess
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Jared Petti, like he's eighteen years old. Yeah, yeah, I
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: mean it was a lot of fun talking to him,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: but you know, and it was you know, he was
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: just starting and we we formed a little bond for
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: a little bit, and then um he becaun you know,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: he went on to both of them, you know, superstar.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: He was a sweet kid. He was a very sweet kid.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: Who's the daddy? Um, you're asking me questions? I don't
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: even know what they're actually referenced. Daddy. Yeah, I don't know.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know, not really. I gotta, you know, I
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: gotta ask the question. Yeah, I want to hear Melissa McCarthy,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: which she's on what's your best memory of Gilmore Girls?
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: My best memory of Gilmore Girls has nothing to do
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: with the show. Um. It has to do with um
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: uh shooting on nine eleven and how they uh now
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: I've actually Pamela um the line producer. I forget her
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: last name, now, um she uh you nine eleven happened.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: I was in l a shooting and my family, my
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: wife and my kids were in New York and we
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: lived in Soho at the time, which was very close.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: And he had gone to school that day and I
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: saw the you know, the towers falling on the news
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: and went to set, went to went to the studio
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: that morning, right that I was working that day. Um,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: everything shut down, obviously, but um, they got me on.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: They put me in a room. They were so concerned
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: with me getting in touch with my family, and they
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: put me in a room for twelve hours. They patched
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: me through all these ways of trying to get to
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: my my wife's cell phone and you know, just uh yeah,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: it was it was like totally being taken care of
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: in a time when you feel like just you're you're
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: just you know, you're the ground under your feet is
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: just kind of taken. And did you did how long
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: did it take you to get in touch with your wife?
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Twelve hours? Yeah, and yeah, and it was like and yeah,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: it was just it was just incredible and I'll never
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: forget it. And it was I just felt like it
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: was so it was just so unbelievable. They just you know,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: and had nothing to do with the show. But then
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: I think the next day we shot, or two days
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: later we shot. I remember shooting a scene with Lauren
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: in a car. Maybe it was like a driving scene
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: or something like that, and I it was just crazy.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're like, you're not really like I was
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: kind of laughing the whole time and not really like
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know. And that was the other thing. They
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: got me out as quickly as possible. They like got
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: me out on the first flight. That that when when
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: when flights started going back, and I remember, I uh,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: not in live was on a Tuesday, and they flew
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: me on a Saturday morning. It was like the first
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: one of the first flights that got went out of
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: l A. So it was what a what a terrible experience?
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Good god, twelve hours of agony? Wow. Yeah, But that
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: that's my that's my best memory because and other than that,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: uh my, my, my best memories are just the whole
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: thing with Lauren and just having such a good time, um,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: and with Amy and Dan uh and never just never
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: feeling threatened that the way I was doing things was
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: was questioned. It was just always, you know, it was
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: always good. And I don't really remember, maybe because I
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: I was so you know, busy at the time. Um,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: I don't ever remember feeling like, uh, you know, like
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: I needed, you know, to know if he's coming back
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: or you know, what's happening to Max. You know, it's
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: just what it was, what it was, I think. Yeah,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: I mean that that's basically it the show that you're
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: binge watching right now. I just finished The Kaminsky Method. Okay,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: cast member you texted most recently on The gumber Girls.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: I'm in touch with Amy and Dana a lot. Okay,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: So have you done an episode of mazel I? I
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: was on this this season, right, Okay? Cool? So okay,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: So here's a Lauren question. Okay, did you know that
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: the two of you had a great see partner in
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: each other? Because it was so what's the word ping
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: pongy quick back and forth. I mean, did you know
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: pretty quickly that you were in really good hands with Yes? Yes,
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: I knew Lauren before the show, right, Um, they we
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: were actually in I did three three episode arc on
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Law and Order, like in nineteen six, and I played
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: a film director that that that murders his wife cuts
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: her up into little pieces. Um, and she was in
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: the same shown because he was. It was I touched her.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: I touched her a lot before, so not going. I
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: tried to get close. She wouldn't let me. Um. And
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: she was on the show. I forget exactly why she
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: was on the show, but she was on the show.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: And my agent was like, oh, you know would be great.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: You guys should work together and uh, you know, be fun.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: And then we met each other and you know, she
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: was great and um, and this came up and I
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: knew that she was just totally special and and um
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: and extremely talented. I don't think that I was anywhere
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: near I mean, I don't know if you had this experience,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: but I wasn't anywhere near as being able to speak
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: as quickly as I. And that was actually I was
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: I was lucky that Amy. Uh. And maybe this was
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: because it was kind of um first Amy's you know
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: uh um. She wasn't like as intense about um dialogue early.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know, but my take on how to
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: do that dialogue was not not like you know, like
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: like rapid fire. I needed to be able to I
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: needed to be able to have some kind of like
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: you know, ground to it um. Whereas Lauren could memorize
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: these lines. I mean there's there was ninety pages per script.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: You know, she memorizes monologues that, you know, like it
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: was unbelievable how you could kind of like lace stuff up.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean it was totally I felt like that,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: you know, it was a great scene partner, and she
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: really was. Again, she was very giving and very um
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: free about what I you know, if I wanted to
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: try something, she would go for it, and that you
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: know wouldn't be a problem. Um. And you know, she
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: wasn't judging or anything like that, which always makes it
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: easier because you know, you work with people that are
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: very judgmentally, You're like, oh my god, it's like I'm
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: completely stuck. It's gonna be a long day exactly exactly,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: and so you know, so you have to like so.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: So she was great. I mean she was, you know,
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: a true um champion of you know, of of doing work.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: I never saw her complain about anything, you know that
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: I wasn't part of, you know, if if that was happening,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: I didn't know about it. Um. She was always like
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: right on on on on her stuff, and and and
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: and and willing to uh to be a great scene partner.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: And she was. She was really a good scene partner.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: You know. One of the most impressive things I've ever
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: seen in my entire career was when uh we we
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: I mean we were there at three am doing a
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: diner scene. It was just the two of us, since
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: she had this big entrance monologue coming into the diner
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: and huff and the whole thing, and I mean it
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: was like it was it was that much black ink.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: It was like the whole page and she had just
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: spit it out fast. And not only did she have
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: to do that at three am after you know, a
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: monster day of twenty hours or something like that, of
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: working and uh, you know, ninety cups of coffee. We
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: we both had in us. Brian de Palma had been
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: there since the afternoon and he stayed. He stayed. He
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: was a fan of the show. His daughter loved the show.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: And uh, Gallen heard the mother of the wife was there,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: um as well. I think she was. But Brian de
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Palmer was sitting right next to camera. Oh my god. Okay,
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: you know how we do our coverage for close up. Yeah,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: he was like cameras the microphone. He was there, Brian
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: de Palmer and on her coverage, okay, on her coverage,
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: and she was flawless. She didn't she didn't flinch. I mean,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: you talk about being under pressure with like a major
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: director staring you right in the face the entire monologue
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: and just she did it twice, nailed it. We moved on. Yeah,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: she's so professional, so you know, and and yeah, really professional.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: It was cool and I think that she, you know,
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: she must have felt. I mean, I I don't. I
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: don't really talk to Laren, but you know, she must
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: have felt, you know. And I mean it's interesting, like,
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: you know, somebody that you know is so successful at
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: a show, on a show for so long. You know,
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: she really seemed to do with it really well I
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: mean from my perspective, and not ever make it like
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: she's a star or you know, she was very humble
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: and you know, um, yeah, I mean I found it
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: incredible to you know, what I found incredible is if
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: I were in that position, and I were the lead
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: of the show and I was carrying a show like
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: that with so much dialogue and so many hours yet
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: you had to put in every day and I wasn't
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: getting and doing the level of work that she was
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: doing day after day, month after month, year after year,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: season after season, and not really I mean getting recognized
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: or getting nominated at the rate which she deserved. Uh.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Kind of amazing that it went on for seven years,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: because I mean we were obligated to six. We did
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: a seventh, um, but it's like how long can you go?
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, like what's the point after a while? I
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: mean not that you're doing it to be recognized, but
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: it's like, you know, it starts feeling you know, it
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: starts feeling bad, like come on, you know, maybe you know,
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: throw us a Golden Satellite Award or something. I mean,
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: I something, Um, but it was just odd and it
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: just sort of I don't know, there was this sort
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: of sour taste after a while on set, like we
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: can do, you know, what we consider to be very
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: high level work with very high level writing, and nobody
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: at these academies cares and it's not going to make
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: any difference. Not that you do it to win the
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: awards or get nominated, but you want to be invited
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: to the party a little bit, right, Yeah, you want
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: to be invited to the party totally. But you know what,
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: after so many years in this business, I do feel
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: like that, you know, because I too want to be
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: you know, uh invited to the party. But I feel
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: like that there are you know, there are things that
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: happened that never get recogn eyes that never get you know,
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: to see the light of day in terms of you know,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: people kind of giving it the credit it deserves. And unfortunately,
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: it's it's for a lot of actors and a lot
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: of shows, a lot of movies that that don't get
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: that because there are Darling's that you know, uh that
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: that get chosen, you know, and unfortunately, and I don't
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: need to like trash you know, any organization, but you know,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: whether it's the Academy or whether it's the Emmys or
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: whether it's you know, sa what we all know how
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: things get voted and you know it's, um, it's not
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: rocket science, it's you know, people, people choose. People don't
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: necessarily choose what's deserving one year. They choose, you know
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: what they know and it's not always you know the
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: case with one particular show, she she absolutely deserved an
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: enormous amount of tension for that, for that character, as
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: as as um as uh so many others know the girl,
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: the girl from Mrs maisil who, um, you know who's
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: getting an enormous amount of right right right right? So
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: which is a similar it's a similar character. Listen, buddy, Uh,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: we know you gotta go. You're a busy guy. Thank
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: you for your time. This was amazing, It was great.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: It was great spending time with you. And Uh, I
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: think I'm gonna send you some coffee. I have my
• 47:25
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• 47:28
  Speaker 1: I do? Yeah? Uh send it to me definitely, all right,
• 47:32
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• 47:36
  Speaker 1: But it was amazing talking to you. Thank you so
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: much for taking the time we'd love to have you back.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: It's great sea and I'm so glad that you explained
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: to me that it was really just romance. It was
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: just romantic love and it took precedent over anything. And
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: how honorable of you to say, I'm going to step
• 47:55
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• 48:00
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• 48:05
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• 48:12
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