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Matteo Lane: From Chicago Open Mics to Sold-Out Theaters in Italy | The Pat McGann Show Ep. 37 · The Pat McGann Show

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  SPEAKER_04: It's episode 37 of the Pat McGann Show.
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  SPEAKER_04: This week, Pat welcomes Mateo Lane and Dwayne Kennedy.
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  SPEAKER_04: The Pat McGann Show, as always, is brought to you by Tiege Hanley, complicated skincare for men.
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  SPEAKER_04: And now, here's Pat.
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  SPEAKER_06: All right, we're back at it.
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  SPEAKER_06: We are live in the Tiege Hanley Studios in the west side of Chicago.
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  SPEAKER_06: It is the month of May.
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  SPEAKER_06: May.
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  SPEAKER_06: It is the month of May.
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  SPEAKER_06: Can you believe that?
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  SPEAKER_06: We got a great episode ahead of us.
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  SPEAKER_06: We're going to take a trip down Mateo Lane.
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  SPEAKER_06: That's our guest today.
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  SPEAKER_06: We got Mateo Lane here.
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  SPEAKER_06: I'm talking about this.
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  SPEAKER_06: Good dude, man.
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  SPEAKER_06: And right here, as always, getting to be always Dwayne Kennedy.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_02: Good to see you, bud.
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  SPEAKER_02: Down Memory Dwayne.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, man.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_06: I love that, man.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_02: We didn't even tee that up even.
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  SPEAKER_06: You know what I mean?
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  SPEAKER_06: This is the energy we get on a Friday.
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  SPEAKER_06: We're here.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_06: We're here recording on a Friday afternoon.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_06: Because Mateo's in town.
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  SPEAKER_06: He's doing the Chicago theater tomorrow night.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_06: Whoa.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_06: And he agreed to come in here, which was great.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_06: It worked out.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_06: And um I'm excited.
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  SPEAKER_06: I just got back myself.
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  SPEAKER_06: I was in New York City, just uh just landed here, and I'm in the studio.
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  SPEAKER_06: I feel like I'm working, man.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_06: Hey man, how was New York?
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  SPEAKER_06: I love it.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_06: I do enjoy New York City, and I wanted to tell you this because we were talking about Funny AF coming in here and shitting on Chicago and talking about, you know, uh, you know, that clip, the uh Kevin Hart show, uh the uh stand-up competition.
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  SPEAKER_06: Well, last night I'm in New York, I'm doing a spot at New York Comedy Club, and who's in there but three of like the six finalists of the show.
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  SPEAKER_06: Oh, for real?
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  SPEAKER_06: Funny AF.
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  SPEAKER_06: And they're all, you know, obviously, they're fired up.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, they're excited about it.
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  SPEAKER_06: And I brought up to um the manager there, do you know Jen who used to uh work Carolines and now she's at a New York Comedy Club?
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_06: No, she's so sweet, man.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, and um well anyway, she was like, Oh, yeah, they did not like what they saw in Chicago.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_06: And some of the comics that were around were like, Yeah, well, you know, so even again, I was Oh, for real?
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, here we now I'm feeling it in person.
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  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, did you have to put up one of them against the wall?
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  SPEAKER_06: Listen, let me tell you something.
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  SPEAKER_06: Well, I just said I didn't know, I heard that a lot of them weren't actually from Chicago or in the Chicago scene that they just happened to audition in Chicago.
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_06: But it was cool to to uh to see these comics doing their thing, they're getting ready for this show.
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  SPEAKER_06: Were they funny?
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  SPEAKER_06: Um I didn't get to see a lot of their, you know, that room is tight.
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, so you're not really in there.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_06: If you go in there, you feel like you're in the way.
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  SPEAKER_06: So um I heard them all getting a great response.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_06: The crowd was great.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, they were really some of the crowds, you never know what you're gonna get.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_06: You're you do spots in New York City a lot more than I do.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_02: I yeah, we you know, yeah.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, there's I go through periods where I do them a lot, and then I kind of slow down.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_02: But where do you like to get up?
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_02: See, I go up at uh like a lot of the Brooklyn rooms.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
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  SPEAKER_02: Like Little Fields and uh Eastville and places like that.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then uh me and a friend of mine, we we we run a room sometimes in Manhattan at the uh it used to be at this place called um the crepes on Columbus, this little little uh restaurant.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's good.
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  SPEAKER_06: Do you feel like the uh that that energy in Brooklyn is probably similar to what you're getting in uh you know Manhattan too?
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  SPEAKER_06: Maybe the crowds are a little different, but the the comedians, the comics, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_06: Do you feel like the New York scene is like more pure than uh because you've been in LA too.
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  SPEAKER_02: I think new New York is like uh boot camp.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_02: Comedy boot camp.
• 3:33
  SPEAKER_02: I I mean Chicago is great, you know, but it's just so many more places in New York, so many more places to work.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh I tell you a club I really like in Manhattan is uh Gotham.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, I love Gotham.
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_06: I went through I went through there as well.
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  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_06: I love Gotham.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_06: That that room, I love the shape of it.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_06: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_06: Um I always feel like the New York comics are they're very welcoming, and um, but they are like students of the game too.
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  SPEAKER_06: Like they're talking about it in the back of the room and they're talking to each other and they're kind of in and out, they're going to another spot.
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  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_06: LA is like you can't do as many spots.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's more spread out.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's more spread out.
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  SPEAKER_02: And LA I found that they certainly have students of comedy there, but a lot of people in LA are just doing comedy as a stepping stone.
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_02: You know what?
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  SPEAKER_02: And this might be uh old talk because maybe not with the avenue, you know, with social media, people are getting like famous from their living room.
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  SPEAKER_02: But it used to be the thing with L in LA, and maybe from what here to some degree still is, uh people aren't really stretching in LA in like in in the city proper.
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  SPEAKER_02: They're doing you see them do the same five minutes, ten minutes, fifteen minutes for years because they never want a bomb because they don't know who's gonna be in the audience that could perhaps give them something.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_02: So everybody's using those opportunities.
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  SPEAKER_02: Basically, every set in LA, a not every set, but a lot of them are just they look at it as auditions for something else.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, and in New York, there you gotta be ha you gotta have new stuff constantly.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, and that's it.
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  SPEAKER_06: Or even your peers might weed you out or be like, come on, you're not that's the vibe.
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  SPEAKER_06: I get it.
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  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_06: I mean, the um and and maybe it's shorter sets there, and cause the New York style, and this is old talk too, maybe, is more like bam, bam, bam, like it's coming at you a little bit quicker.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, you know, less uh time between laughs, maybe.
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_06: There's some killers out there in the New York scene, man.
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_06: And uh I saw it last night, you know.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_06: This room was um was packed on a Thursday, and uh, you know, New York Comedy Club, they have about four locations.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_06: That's the other thing.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_06: There is such a concentration of clubs um in that in that area, which I that's always what I wanted to do is like have a couple weeks in New York City and doing like six spots a night, yeah, bouncing around.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that would be uh that would be a good time.
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, man.
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_02: But Chicago has got a great scene.
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_02: I this is what I used to say before the advent, you know, social media, all that stuff has changed things so much.
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  SPEAKER_02: But I used to say that Chicago was a great place to get good, but not the place to get famous.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: But now with social media, you can get famous from Chicago just, you know, if you got a phone, you know.
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  SPEAKER_02: But I think that in my opinion, I think on average there are probably more good comedians in New York than Chicago.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Only because it's more spots to work.
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  SPEAKER_02: Do you know what I mean?
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_06: I always felt like Chicago was a place to get good, and New York is a place to dress up as Super Mario Brother and stand in Times Square and charge people five bucks to get your picture.
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  SPEAKER_06: Picture taken away.
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  SPEAKER_02: Chicago's a place to get good.
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_02: New York is a place to get disappointed.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_02: New York is a place to get suicidal.
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_06: New York is up for grabs, man.
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  SPEAKER_06: I stayed there in Times Square.
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  SPEAKER_06: Um, I was kind of freeloading.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_06: Kim had a like a work thing out there, and I'm like, oh, I'm gonna come out and do some spots.
• 7:13
  SPEAKER_06: But uh, so you're staying in Times Square, and that is just a scene, dude.
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_06: That's a yeah, that's a madhouse, brother.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_06: And you still have all the like legit stuff going on too.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_06: Like you can't avoid it.
• 7:23
  SPEAKER_06: If you're going to a Broadway show, if you're going to Colbert taping or something, you gotta walk through that trap.
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  SPEAKER_02: And depending on what time of day you man, when I was a a kid, before I ever I don't know how you felt, when I used to see movies about this is in a sense, why I like being from Chicago in a sense, because Chicago's a big city, but it's not like but it's not New York.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right.
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  SPEAKER_02: So it's like Chicago's like a like a prepper course, you know what I mean?
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_02: But I like going places like New York or LA, not being from there and experiencing that from that the outsider's point of view.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_02: But when I was a kid, man, I would see movies or TV shows about New York and I'd see all those people.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_02: I just thought, oh, that they're doing that to make it look better.
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_02: And then I got there.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, this is real.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_06: I thought about it yesterday, walking out there.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_06: And it's like as soon as you hit the sidewalk, you gotta, you know, you're a salmon trying to fit in going upstream.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_06: You gotta be going the right direction.
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_06: You're dodging, you know, through.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_06: Right.
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_06: And it is something.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_06: Right.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_06: And to fathom, just the businesses one after the other.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_06: And those souvenir shops, like, you know, there was one on the corner, Gotham Gifts.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_06: They sold every t-shirt, every they had a t-shirt in there that said daddy's little meatball.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_06: That was an extra large for like an adult.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_06: I'm like, if you're wearing that, you're not daddy's little meatball anymore.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_02: And if you are, uh, you know, I mean, that's a whole different hustle.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_06: You know, that's some that's a different oh, maybe that is that's the advertisement.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_06: You know what I mean?
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, I'm so naive.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_06: The country bumpkin walking into the souvenir.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, man.
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_06: I was wondering though, how much do they have to move in this this store?
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_06: Like, oh man.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_06: Because it's just all like the crap, you know?
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, crap.
• 9:16
  SPEAKER_06: But uh expensive crap.
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_06: The the the sidewalk traffic, though, you are so right.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_06: It is insane.
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_06: And you wonder who is running this place.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_06: How does it this just manages itself?
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_02: Like you said, man, you get out there, you better have an idea of where you're going because it you might get swept up in the in the current, wind up 90 blocks from where you intended to be.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_02: I was supposed to be walking in that direction.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, I kind of think like people who grew up in that environment are the ones that invented vacation or invented like getting out of town.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_06: Because I've been there maybe at most five, six days consecutive.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_06: You know?
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_06: You probably you've lived out there for stretches.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_06: And you must feel it sometimes.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_06: Like, I gotta get out of here.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_02: You know, and then here's the thing too, like Times Square, of course, like you said, is always busy, but like a lot of time I was on the Upper West side, so I excuse me.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_02: You know, upper west side.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_05: You know, Patrick, you know, um, indubitably, I uh you know talking about this with my doorman.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_05: We were out front.
• 10:28
  unknown: Right, right.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_02: We were both out front.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_02: I was filling an application, and uh Man, let me tell you this, Bob.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_02: When I was in New York, this was 2012, and I was writing on uh Totally Biased with W.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_02: Kamal Bell.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_02: And I was making, man, I was I was on, I was like writer's guild, I was in the union.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_02: I may have told you a story before, I don't know.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_02: And I was making I'd say I was probably like 3,200 a week.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe sometimes if I was doing stuff on air.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_02: Think about what you reported.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, nothing.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_02: Anywho, uh uh don't create it.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_06: Gotta be untraceable.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_02: You ever do the Patrick Pat McGann show?
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I got audited from that mother.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_02: But um, so this is this is like 2012, 2013, and I'm probably averaging whatever, 35, whatever.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm staying with a friend of mine.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_02: I I was renting a room from him, which I still have that room.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but like across the street with these, you know.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_02: You're talking about Jeff Epstein?
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_02: You know, rent was less expensive there.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_02: So I was desperate.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_02: But uh he said he understood, you know what I mean?
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_02: Made me wear a big t-shirt that said daddy's little meatball.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, man, Jeff, you sure?
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_02: You know, he said that's all I got for you to sleep in.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_02: And then jokes on him, I didn't even sleep.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_02: But um, you know, so I was like, let me go across the street.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_02: There's this huge apartment complex across the street.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_02: Let me go over there and just see what they're talking about.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm working on a TV show, I'm making all right money.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_02: Man, I went across there.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_02: I said, so how much would what are the you know, apartments run?
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_02: Well, our studios are three thousand dollars a month, our one bedrooms are four thousand a month, two bedrooms are six thousand a month, and our three bedrooms are eight to nine thousand a month.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, man.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_02: I blacked out.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_02: When I came to, I was back in my room wearing a daddy's little meatball shirt.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_06: Man.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_06: Dude, it's no joke.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_06: And and it's well, they're trying to control it, right?
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_06: They uh historically had like some kind of rent control.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_06: Rent control, yeah, yeah.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_02: Which they still sort of do.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_06: So I heard it's going out, it's out of control here.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_06: People are outbidding each other.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_06: They're bidding wars to rent a place.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, man.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_02: It's getting this is sort of getting like New York.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's not as it's certainly way more expensive than it used to be.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_02: Obviously, everything goes up, but yeah, downtown and some of the areas here, man, it's ridiculous.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_02: Dude, the prices are yeah, everywhere you go.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_06: Gas, unbelievable.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_06: Is that who we're who we're gonna become?
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_06: What were they talking about on the podcast?
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_06: They were bitching about the price of gas.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_06: You know?
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_06: No, but it is a uh it is a good time to get to get into New York City.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_06: I always enjoy going there.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_06: And uh, you know, as a comic too, you always feel like this is it, this is where you know what you want to be doing.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_06: And then they had the Knicks game on there last night.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_06: I'm not really following the NBA playoffs.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_06: I might jump in here as they get down to uh, you know, the final four of the conference finals or something like that.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_06: But anyway, did I happen to see, and I don't know what kind of records are broken, but dude, in the second quarter of this game last night, did you see this?
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I did.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_02: They were up like 80 to 20.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was horrible.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_02: And of course, that's the time I made a bet.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_02: Oh no, I bet the hawks took the hawks to cover.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_02: They got to come through.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_02: No, you're not.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_02: You know what?
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_02: I took I took Jalen Brunson to score 25 points, a prop bet.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_02: And had the game been competitive, he probably would have.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_02: But the way it was going, they took him out at the end of the third quarter.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, oh, I lost this bet.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_02: And that was it.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_02: How many did you finish with?
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_02: I think 17.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, man.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, man.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_02: It wasn't easy, it was ridiculous.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_02: I love the prop bets.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_06: You must be hitting on some of these bets.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_06: I like these new boots you got here.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_06: These are some ass kickers right here.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_02: I got I got the as those, you know what that's they are ass kickers.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_02: Man, if you sit in the front row on a Dwayne show's, watch yourself.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you better laugh.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_02: Or somebody's getting a face full of some.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_02: You know, these babies are new.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_02: You wanna see?
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_02: Those are brand new, huh?
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, man.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_06: Steel toe, brother.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_06: You gotta put those up.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_06: Let those let the camera see those.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_06: Oh my goodness.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, we'll get to the show.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_06: Steel toe.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_06: Nice little touch from uh caterpillar.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, these are actually my house shoes.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, are they really?
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_06: Are there somebody swear to chill out?
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_02: In case I gotta wake up and kick a mother, you know what I mean.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_06: I was flying today.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_06: I just wanna, this is what I wear on the plane.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I can chill out.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_06: Let my feet swell up in these boots.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_06: Get some room there.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_02: I can't, I can't get I've been having my own three weeks.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_02: I couldn't get I can't get them off.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_02: As a matter of fact, that's why I wore them to the show to see.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_02: Can you pull these for me back?
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_06: We gotta give a shout out to uh not caterpillar, the farmer's fridge.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_06: How about a shout out to them?
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_06: They're catering our episode today.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_06: Really?
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, they're they're they are also headquartered in the same uh building here as Teach Hanley.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_06: This is a Chicago business Mecca, this uh where we're at.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_06: So they uh came through.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_06: I'm in the city.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_06: It is funny seeing the like the real healthy people at uh at a vending machine.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_06: I know you see them up there.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_06: They always stop there before they refill up their water.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_06: Are you good at that?
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_06: Do you bring a refillable water when you travel?
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_06: Do you?
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, I just got my text here.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_06: Here we go.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, our guest is gonna be here in three minutes.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_06: Let's brace ourselves.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_06: Um, have you met Mateo?
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_06: Perhaps.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_06: You know how that is.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_06: I hope we get another AJ Lighting moment where uh they're like, I don't know.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_06: And then when they came out, you're like, oh, I know AJ.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_06: Oh my God.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_06: I roomed with him.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_06: I roomed with you in 2013.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_06: I helped you moved to New York.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_06: We drove down here together.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_06: I am willing to bet, I'll take a prop bet that he knows who you are.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_06: So he's gonna be here in a minute, guys.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_06: We're excited.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_06: Um, and also um we got some great stuff coming up.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_06: I got I I booked a Chicago Cub.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_06: I want to tease that.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_06: I got it.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_06: We're working on a date.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_06: Don't you think I'd get somebody from the White Sox first?
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_06: But I got an active cub.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_02: He starts.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_02: So you're just gonna bring him in here and just glare at him?
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna reach across the aisle.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_06: That's what the show's all about.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, reach across the aisle.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna ask him if he moisturizes.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna get him to put some t-ge on his bat.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_02: You gotta get a White Sock.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_02: They're having a decent season, man.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_06: Dude.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_06: Munataka Murakami?
• 17:16
  unknown: Yeah.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_06: How about this?
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_06: This guy.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_06: He's leading the majors in home runs.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_06: That's what's always great about the White Sox.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_06: Even when, you know, if they're struggling, there's always something to talk about.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_06: You know, they got the Pope.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_06: Now they got they always have like a personality.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, something like that.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_06: I'm actually doing uh Chuck and Ozzie tonight.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna be on with Chuck and Ozzy.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, for real?
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, they're doing like the West Coast games, so doing like the late night show.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_06: I didn't know this.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_06: Their studios at the United Center.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_06: They just moved over there.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_06: Because they were always on by like close to merchandise mart.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_06: Oh man.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_06: Chuck and okay, I'm gonna put a prop bet on that.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, and you can also put a prop bet on me getting Chuck and Ozzy in here.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_06: Because that's why I'm doing it.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_06: I know that's right.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_02: So Chuck and Ozzy, you know what I mean?
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_02: One hand washes the other.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, right.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_06: Alright, I'm gonna go meet Mateo and uh we will keep things rolling here.
• 18:08
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• 18:46
  SPEAKER_06: Alright.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_06: Here Mateo Lane is joining us, but I am first of all.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_06: Thanks for coming in.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_06: It's good to see you.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_06: It's been a while, it's been a minute, as they say.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_06: In the streets.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_06: But uh dude, I'm just looking at your schedule.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_06: It's a lot.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_06: It's insane.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_06: It's fun.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_06: You got the Chicago Theater this weekend.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_06: Congrats, by the way.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_06: Thank you.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_01: It was phenomenal.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_01: Thanks.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_06: But then you're from here, you're you're teeing off, you're going to Italy.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm I have four Europe tours this year.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm doing uh Italy.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_01: Bologna?
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_06: You're doing uh in Bologna.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there's a I'm doing the Ha ha hut in Milan.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_01: Doing the funny bone in Palermo.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_06: Holy cow.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_06: Teatro Santa Cecilia in Palermo, Italy.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_06: Yes.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_06: The Teatre Coliseum in Barcelona.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_06: You're supposed to say that the Barcelona in Barcelona, right?
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_06: Dude, this is have you done these?
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_06: These these spots?
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_01: Um I've done Italy, I've done Rome before in Milan, but this is a big theater in Milan, so these are all much they're much larger venues.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_01: But it's fun.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's crazy to like, I was just in Spain.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_01: I was in Spain at a theater where they do the Lion King, so I'm just like performing next to Zazu.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_01: Like it was so weird.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_01: Um but I loved it.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_01: And but it's crazy that there's like 2,000 people in another country that are coming to see you.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_01: It's such a bizarre feeling.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, since I've seen you, uh and uh, you know, we'll get into how you kind of you're from the Chicagoland area.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_06: You started here in Chicago, but you took off for New York around what, 2012?
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_06: 2012, I moved to New York.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_06: Now you're you've blown up, dude, and I'm so happy for you.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_06: This guy, you got 1.9.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_06: I was thinking about this.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_06: Do you have 1.9 million followers?
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_02: You do?
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_06: Or something about that.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_06: All right.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_06: Not to get it, not to be not to, but perspective.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_06: That's like Houston.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_06: That's like the city of Houston, right?
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_06: You got people happy with having like the population of uh Oaklawn following them.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, Oklahoma.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_06: Dude, this is a meteoric rise, and and uh, like you said, to be able to pack these places overseas, right?
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_06: And you're kind of destined to be this guy because uh you have like this opera singing in your past.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_01: So to be doing theaters in Italy and Spain, maybe this is just sort of I should have been more specific in my wishes when I was younger.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_01: Um but yeah, I mean it's cool.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's um I don't know.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_01: I just kind of don't think about it until I all all I concentrate on is like I want the people who bought the tickets to have had a good time at the show.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_01: So that's pretty much it.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_01: And then afterwards I can think, oh, that was cool.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_01: I did Radio City or you know, like you think about it afterwards, yeah, but in the moment you're just trying to think about like someone got a babysitter, people bought these tickets four months ago.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_01: This was, you know, you're just trying to be a good entertainer and make it worth the tickets, and then they'll come back next day.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it's like business, art, pleasure, all in one.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, and you have a uh kind of a lot of uh threats on stage.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_06: I remember seeing you, and you do get musical sometimes.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_06: You have this singing background.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_01: I haven't.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_06: Can you talk about that a little bit?
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_06: Sure.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that was like the first joke I did.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_01: I haven't sung on stage in a long time.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but I had my first joke that like really hit at open mics.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_01: And if you're a comic, you know how important open mics are.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_01: Um they are.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_01: I was still they're uh The best thing ever.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_06: And do you still hit you go to places and work stuff out?
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_06: I do not.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_01: I do not.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_01: Just work it out during your shows?
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_01: No, what I do now is like I kind of go in waves.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_01: So like I right now I'm showcasing.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_01: So every weekend I'm like f getting the hour, is you know, fine-tuning it, let's say.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_01: But when I'm in writing mode, I'll be let's say I once I finish my hour, I record it, it's done.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_01: And then I just go back to the cellar and I ask Estee I'm like, hey, I'm writing new material.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_01: Can I just I'm gonna put in for spots?
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_01: Give me as much as possible.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_01: And she's really wonderful, and she will.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_01: So I'll do like 22 shows in a week, and then I have I take all my notes, like the premises that I write down, you know, throughout the year.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_06: Are we recording this?
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna go back to this.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, well, I talk a little slower.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_01: Well, because I mean I kind of do everything the way like in opera and in painting, whereas like it was a it was structured and like you know, you have to sort of streamline it.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_01: So for me, I can't just kind of like do one thing and come back to it later.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, all right, here's all my jokes, here's all my premises.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_01: I literally get my laptop out and I just sort of organize by theme.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_01: And then I know I have 15 minute spots at the cellar, so I will just chunk out 15 minutes, 15 minutes, 15 minutes, and I'll say, okay, I'm gonna do these 15 minutes for the next two weeks, uh, 20 shows a week, and when they finally feel like they hit, then I'll push them to side and bring in the next.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_01: And you just kind of do this until they all feel like you found their beats and you found the rhythm about then.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_01: I'll do clubs.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_01: So I like for I do everything like in a concept.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_01: Do those chunks stay together or do they end up?
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_01: They may move once I put that like when I I came here.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_01: I came here, I went to the Helium in uh St.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_01: Louis and I went to the Milwaukee Improv just to put everything together.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_01: I think I did like 16 shows in two weeks.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_01: And I literally came on stage with paper at Zany's and I was like, hi everyone.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_01: I said I this is all brand new material.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_01: I just need to find my opener, my closer to let everything else sort of find its way.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_01: The first show I did a one hour and 20 minutes, which is very long for me.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_01: And by that sixth show at Zany's, I was already down to 55 minutes, and I had my opener.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_01: So it's like, okay, so it's coming together, and then you keep doing it, doing it, doing it, just so that it fits enough to be able to do it.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_01: Because that debut show I had for this hour that took me a year to write, uh, was debuting for 4,000 people in Melbourne in Australia.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_01: So it was like I want it to be very ready.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_01: And then I got to Melbourne and I was like, ah, okay, this, but even now I'm still editing.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I can add a lot of people.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_06: Do you think that anything was lost in translation when you get over there?
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_06: Do you have to not with Australia?
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_06: Just a little bit.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_06: No.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_01: Some like very few.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_01: Like I have a joke about Tony the Tiger that they don't know.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_01: So really that's out.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_01: And also, when you're writing jokes in clubs, you forget how close you are to the audience.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_01: And I have a lot of jokes where it's just your face, and then when there's all those people, if there's no camera on your TV screen, you just have to let that go.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_01: You're like, damn, that only works for because I was trying it in Melbourne and I was like, wow, four thousand people are thinking I'm having a stroke.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_01: They have no idea what's going on right now.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_01: So you do learn like that.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, but but I'm very um Yeah, I mean I've been doing stand-up almost eighteen years, so it's you know, and I I really didn't get anyone helping me out.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_01: So once I started posting in 2021, everything changed overnight.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_01: And so I've taught myself how to have my own little business and my own routine and my own schedule and how much to post and you know, I creating content, et cetera, et cetera, to keep it going.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_01: And it's sounds like you're very disciplined with it.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_01: I am very disciplined, yeah.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_01: And I don't have many vices.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_01: I don't drink, I don't go out, I don't party, I don't dance, I don't I don't do any of it.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_01: I would rather just sit at the cellar and talk to Keith Robinson.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_01: I'd rather just sell out theaters all over the world.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, but you know, it's a lot of work.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_01: It is my time off as me hanging out with Keith Robinson and bitching at him.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, Keith.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_01: Keith and I text every day about our favorite singers.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_01: And ones we do and don't like, but for some reason, we every clip we send each other, Dion Warwick is always there.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_01: She's just there.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_01: Like with like a Luther Vandros clip.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_01: She's there.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_01: There was TV Wonders singing with Petty about there's Dion.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_01: So I was in fucking I was in New Zealand backstage, and guess what the poster behind me?
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_01: Dion Warwick.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_01: So I sent it to Keith.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, she's here too.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_01: God, she's so she's everywhere.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_01: But that's what I just want to hang out with comics or play Fortnite.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_01: That's it.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_06: Do you play Fortnite?
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_01: I play Fortnite every single day.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_01: And now I'm playing Dress to Impress.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_06: What's the theme on what's the theme of Fortnite right now?
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_01: Fortnite.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_06: Well, this my sons were into it, and now they kind of backed off a little.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_06: They said, I know.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_06: Well, Fortnite down?
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_01: No, it's not yes and no.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it kinda it's it's a this kind of game.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_01: Same with Call of Duty, like it goes down.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_06: You talk shit to people?
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_01: No, I mean they don't have um proximity in Fortnite.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_01: Well, they have Ummo that had it, but then 30,000 people got banned in a day, and they're like, we probably shouldn't do this.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_01: A lot of faggots flying around.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_01: And um I was gonna say the N-word.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_01: It's usually the N-word and faggot, those kind of go hand in hand.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, usually.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I've heard that.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_01: Those are the first two to be said, and then the rest kind of, you know, yeah, you'll get to it.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, I didn't know that they cut that off.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_06: Well, that's probably a good thing.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_06: So you play Fortnite?
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_06: And dress to impress.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_06: And dress to impress.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_01: Do you guys know what dressed to impress is?
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_01: You do.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_01: Dress to impress, because I can I feel like you'd be a big fan.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_01: Um, it's a game for like seven-year-old girls on like Roblox.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_02: What you're trying to say, Matei.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, you hear me out.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_02: You're not a priest, don't worry.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_01: And um I'm sorry, I said girl.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_01: Uh but um, so you there's like a you're like kind of like just like a plain, like kind of like model, like a mannequin almost.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_01: And you get a theme, and it's like uh, I don't know, the theme could be anything from like getting ready at home or like red carpet, and you have an entire, like basically giant closet where hair, wigs, makeup, dresses, heels, and you have to pick a bunch of stuff and change the color in the six minutes to walk the runway, and then everyone judges you.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_01: So, and it's fun because my straight friends are playing it now with me, Donnie and Sue.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's progress.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_01: There's nothing more progressive than hearing a straight guy yell, I forgot to do my nails.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_01: So, um, but we love it.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_01: I play dress every night.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_01: Who hosts that?
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um I've heard of this show.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, it's a game.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, it's a game?
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_01: You're thinking of RuPaul's drag race, it's almost the same thing.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_01: It's all a game.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_01: How'd you know I was thinking of that?
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_06: Dion Warwick's here again.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, Dion.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_06: And I love Dion.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_06: Who do you listen to?
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_06: I want to because I I'm interested in your musical uh preferences because you are musical yourself and you have that opera.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_06: You were like trained as a singer, weren't you?
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_06: At a young age.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_01: It's better for men to start singing once they've hit puberty, so your vocal cords vocal cords have elongated, so that way you're not relearning technique.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_01: So I started singing around 15 and I'd already had this voice, like a big low bass voice.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_06: Have you done a lot of voiceover stuff?
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_01: I've done some.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_01: I was a character on Family Guy.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_01: I was a character they I was played gay, so it really took me it was really difficult for me to reach down and study for that.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but uh I watched Broke Back Mountain a few times to get into that role.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, you didn't know.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_01: No, um uh yeah, I've done some.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_01: I would like to do more voiceover stuff.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know, I'm not so good with the industry side of things.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_01: I'm very good at like creating my own stuff.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_06: And then I don't know how that's where it is anyway now.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_06: I don't know anymore.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like it's all broken.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_06: They don't know either, though.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_06: I thought they're so quote unquote tastemakers, or they're chasing everyone that's trending anyway.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_06: I feel that way.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_06: That's why I I feel like you know, what has happened with your career is because of that.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_06: You just went out and said, This is me.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_01: Well, no one said yes, so I was like, Well, I'm fine, I'll just you know that's what I was gonna ask you.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_02: How did you build your audience?
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_02: How did that happen?
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_01: I literally um I had a talk with this is in 2021, and Schultz was the first one to sort of go off and do that.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_01: And I call I remember being, you know, it was trying to play by the old playbook where it's like have your hour and keep it and don't show anybody, and then you sell that, and that but but they no one wanted it.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_01: And I remember doing a show in Miami, they canceled because I only sold like three tickets, and I mean I was broke, I was living in a shitty apartment, I yeah, I just didn't know what to do.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_01: And and so I just called him and he talked to me for two hours, and he was like, just take that hour and cut it up and put it online, and I did.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, and that was what five years ago he told me to do that, and I was like, okay, and then you sort of learn, and then I I had the full hour of stand-up, which I didn't realize I branded myself like a Simpsons character because everyone just thought I always wore a yellow duck shirt on stage.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_01: But I was like, it's the same show, you idiot.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_01: Like you think I went up on stage for one minute and ran, but then people don't know, you know what I mean?
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_01: Like we think they know, they don't know, but anyway, so I got the yellow duck guy, yeah.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_01: It was like it was some like Quebec like duck.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_01: I found it at a me and Caitlin Paloofa found it at a butt in a Buffalo.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_06: I just saw her last night.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_06: We were just talking about her at the top of the show as the um the she's one of the finalists in yeah yeah, for real.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_01: I have to say, I cannot think of anyone more talented than Caitlin or nicer.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_01: Caitlin has been uh I mean she's headlining herself now, but when she can, she'll she'll come and do shows with me.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_01: She just opened for me on this past Europe tour I did last month.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_01: She is so phenomenal, so funny, so nice, so caring.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_01: And I just love that now all the people watching this show are this is like they're seeing how lovable and wonderful she is and how talented.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_01: You know, she's taking on every single challenge, like, and you know, but like when you are a woman and you're in New York and you're coming up and you have to do alt rooms, you have to do 2 a.m.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_01: at this cellar or 7:30 at this cellar.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you have to be malleable in a way that a lot of people don't have to be.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_01: And Caitlin can like, she'll do clean if you need, she can do dirty, she can do that, but she's always herself, and she just has like such a huge skill set when it comes to stand-up.
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_01: She can deal with hecklers, she can do crowd work, she can do improvisation, she can do roast jokes, she can do stand-up.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_01: It's like this is what a real comedian is.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_01: Caitlin is a jet bona fide genuine comedian, and I'm so happy that people are seeing that now.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_06: That's great, that's a great description, too, and very true about being well-rounded like that, be able to kind of come at it from all those angles.
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 31:56
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• 32:01
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• 32:06
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• 32:08
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• 32:19
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• 32:23
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• 32:28
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• 32:31
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• 32:33
  SPEAKER_06: Put your best face forward.
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_06: We kind of were talking about this show because it jumped on our radar uh because it kind of shit on Chicago and the It did.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_06: I don't remember that.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_06: They auditioned, I guess.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_06: I wasn't even watching it to be honest with you.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_06: So it's just funny.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_06: This is like it keeps coming up for us.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_06: So we were talking about it last week how they were kind of dumping on Chicago, Kamal and Kevin Hart.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_06: Um but it wasn't even like they had a bunch of Chicago comics on.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_06: What did they say?
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_06: Just that they didn't find anybody here.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_06: Chicago's not it.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_06: They weren't impressed.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_06: So then last night I happened to go to New York City this week, and last night three of the finalists were on the show.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_06: Caitlin, yeah, Usama Sidike, yeah, Osama, and uh Olivia Comics.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, Olivia, yeah.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_06: So very funny.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, of course.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_06: Now I'm like, oh, okay, now I gotta check this out.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_06: My friends.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, these are my besties.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_06: No, but it's not even about the comics.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_06: But you know how sometimes you just kind of have a reaction to competitive stand-up shows.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, of course.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I don't I don't I don't know.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I don't know how I would have done that show.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not good with competition.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, unless it's right.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_01: I don't like it.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_01: I don't like it either.
• 33:41
  SPEAKER_01: Unless it's dressed to impress.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_01: But um I don't know.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_06: I'm like, I you gotta pick the content, you gotta pick what you gotta do.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_06: There's so many variables.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_02: The only time I ever won a contest was one I didn't know I was even in.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_02: Oh.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_02: At uh Aspen.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_02: And I didn't, you know, I was just there doing shows, and I didn't know that it was a competition.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_02: Well that they yeah, they they sent judges to all your shows, and at the end they had a best of you know, the Aspen.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_01: Don't you think that helps you though?
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_01: Is like because without that pressure of knowing, then you're just yourself.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_02: Mateo, the less I know about anything, it's better, the better.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_02: I try to live my whole life like that.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't know you were coming.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_02: Well, that's alright.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_02: Here I am.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_02: Juste là.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, bonjour.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_01: You know.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_01: But I think Chicago's a great scene.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_01: There's a you can always tell a Chicago comic.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_01: There's always a little bit of there's like 0.1% of vaudeville in all of us.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_01: Do you know what I mean?
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know how quite to describe it, because when I was in Chicago, I started in 2009 or 10.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_01: And when I moved to New York by 2012, like obviously the scene's completely different.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_06: And where did you start?
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_06: Where was like your first show?
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_01: It was with at Marty DeRosa's show.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't know.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_01: Oh Marty.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_01: Marty's the reason I'm here.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_01: And it was three minutes on in it's an old town, uh, old town pub.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_01: Old town, what's it called?
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_01: Old town pub.
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_01: Old town pub.
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and you would win sex toys like in between.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, really?
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_01: And I remember my first joke because I held it and was like, Lindsey Lohan's purse.
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's such a stupid gay joke.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I really was just trying to like imitate like Kathy Griffin at the time.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_01: That was my only knowledge of stand-up, was like Margaret Cho, Kathy Griffin, and Joan Rivers.
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_01: That was it.
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_01: Margaret Cho is too funny.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_01: I just hung out with her, and I love I I finally got to nerd out at her because I've been with her many times and just say nothing.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_01: I just sit there quietly, and then I'm like, okay, now you look rude, Mateo.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_01: So I finally told her how much I loved her.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, we did some show together a month ago, and I was like, hey Margaret, like I'm I you are like profoundly important to me.
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_01: Like to the point I was emotional, and her friend was like almost like didn't believe me because I think so many people say that to her.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_01: I said, I know all of your material.
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_01: He goes, Well, tell us your favorite joke.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_01: And I jumped so quickly into my favorite Margaret Show joke.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_01: We even went to her okay.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_01: She was talking about doing All American Girl, and the network had at like forced her to lose weight, and she got kidney failure and she ended up in the hospital, and you know, because she's like, I just want to look like the friends, you know.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_01: And um, so she said, So there I was, I was sitting at this press conference, and one of the reporters asked me, said, Ms.
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_01: Cho, is it true that the network asked you to lose weight to play the part of yourself on your own television sitcom?
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_01: Gail, the producer, grabbed the mic and said, There is no truth in that.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_01: I was so hungry.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_01: And I just remember like that hitting me so hard.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_06: She is, dude.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_06: I was out in LA.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_06: I did a spot.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_06: We happened to be on the same show just a few weeks ago.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_06: And her joke at the she had a great joke that night was about uh they had just taken the president out of Venezuela.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_06: You know, they overthrew the government, took the president, threw him in a federal penitentiary, same prison that P.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_06: Diddy's in.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_06: And he's like, hey, they took my oil too.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_06: That's what their joke was.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_01: Oh man, that is oh she's great.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, she's just a pro.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_06: She is.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_06: And she's in a big movie right now, I think, or it's out there.
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_06: I saw it's on um United.
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_06: It's uh streaming on their it's a or is it a show she's in regularly?
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_06: I think she was in a movie.
• 37:17
  SPEAKER_01: On United, I you're such a comedian.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_01: You're like, I caught a film on United.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_01: Do you have an airline with it?
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_01: But I flew United here, and Nick, my friend, and I watched Grease Together here, which really doesn't make sense.
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_01: That movie Grease.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_01: I like it.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_01: But it's like it's And that's a Chicago movie.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_06: That's a Grease?
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_06: Taft high school.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_06: Those are Chicago guys that wrote though.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_01: That must that was filmed in LA.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_06: I know, but it's a Chicago movie.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_06: No, it's not.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_01: They're like East Coast Guineas, they're all speaking Italian.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_01: There's no Chicago.
• 37:49
  SPEAKER_01: It takes place out there.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_01: It absolutely does.
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_01: There's nothing Chicago, but it is so Italian coded, East Coast coded.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I never see anyone on there, like, uh listen, I'm I want to talk to Shandy Shabba.
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_01: I know that.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, all that.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_01: No, but the guy that wrote I'm Sandra D.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_01: Like the guys that wrote it are from Chicago.
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_01: Then why that makes the movie is first of all, everyone's 52.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_01: Rizzo's on her last egg.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_01: Rizzo's literally on her last egg, and she's like, I think I'm pregnant.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_01: Then um, you know, as Sandra D or uh uh Lunar Down, she's Australian.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_01: They just were like, Oh yeah, fine.
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, uh it's all inappropriate, and the kids seem manic.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_01: That's what I picked up most.
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_01: Is like every kid is like this in the background, and they seem manic and unwell.
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_01: Um, if I could play.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_01: I remember pointing out Oh, I was gonna say, if I could play anyone in that movie, it would be the principal.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, that's uh is that Sid Caesar?
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_01: No, it was a woman.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_01: And the coach is uh the AD or something.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_02: Cynthia Caesar.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, the hat of Greece, the original musical 1971, is set as a subculture of Greasers at Rydell High School, Northwest Chicago.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_01: But why in the movie?
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_01: In the movie, yeah, they made it at California.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_01: Because they got they had a lot of people.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_01: But it's in California, but they're New York Italians.
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_01: That's why it's confusing.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_01: Like, right.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_01: Have you ever been out to that school?
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_01: Rydell High?
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_01: It's a real thing.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_01: You did?
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_01: No, I didn't.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I would like to.
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_01: That is the she is the best character in the movie.
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_06: That would be and I would.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_01: If I would walk there, you know, I would it's such a great scene.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_06: I've seen pictures of people like they go out and hang out, picnic there, and hang out in front of the on the ground.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_06: It'd be like with the school in the background.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think I've loved anything that much to go cosplay myself.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_06: Like I went to the Shawshank prison once.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_06: I pulled off the highway.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_01: Really?
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_06: Pulled off the highway to see it.
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I was driving by.
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_02: Hey, dude, Ohio.
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_02: Did you swim through that pipe?
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_02: 400 yards of you know what?
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_01: No, but that movie's stressful.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_01: Everyone's I know it's a good movie, but that movie it stresses me out.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, we're talking about Greece or Shaw Show.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_01: Both, to be honest with you.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_02: What about Greece too?
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_02: You can't go through 400 yards of a the methane would kill you.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, yeah.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_01: I know.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_01: Gays have done a lot worse to get trade, so it doesn't seem 400 yards to get a dick sucked.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_01: I've heard it.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_01: I've seen it.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_01: You know.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_01: So scary to be gay.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_01: Is it?
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_01: It is.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_01: It's nice to be back in Chicago and have not feel like I have an accent anymore.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_01: Everyone points out my accent still to this day.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_01: In New York, yeah.
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_01: Thank God you didn't lose it.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_01: No, I have changed a lot of words though.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_01: I have changed a lot.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, obviously you can say that.
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_01: I do say soda.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_01: No, it bothers me.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_01: But if I said to anybody in New York City, can I have pop?
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't even sound normal to me anymore.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_01: I was at my Aunt Cindy's house and she said, like, can you guys go to Jewel and get pop?
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_01: And I it just sounded so foreign to me.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_01: And that's the first time I was like, oh my god, I've like really detached from Chicago.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_01: I don't say leg and egg anymore.
• 41:01
  SPEAKER_01: I say leg and egg.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, you do?
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_01: People don't know because they don't know what I'm talking about when I say I'm doing legs at the gym.
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_02: So now when you come back here, we sound like a bunch of hicks and rubes.
• 41:10
  SPEAKER_01: No, not hicks and rub.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_01: No, more just that's just Chicago.
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_01: Like it's its own specific thing, I feel.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_00: Not like I hear like, well, listen now.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_00: Y'all come down to the salon and get yourself a doc.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_01: Like it's not like that.
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_01: Well, but it is funny to hear everyone be like, ma'am.
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
• 41:28
  SPEAKER_01: The most Chicago word ever that everyone makes fun of me for is the I'm I'll spell it.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_01: It's D-O-L-L.
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, doll?
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_01: We say it the exact same.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_01: Dal.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_01: Everyone thinks I'm fucking crazy when I say it.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_01: They're like, what?
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_01: How are you supposed to say it?
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_01: I don't doll.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_01: I say doll.
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_01: Are you is everyone here from Chicago?
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_01: Where do you where are you from?
• 41:49
  SPEAKER_06: I'm from Michigan.
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_01: But how do you say it?
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_01: Doll?
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_01: That's how they say it.
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_01: Doll.
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_01: Like the British.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_01: Doll.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_01: But doll.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_02: But then here's the thing too, though.
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_02: There's a distinction between white Chicago accents and black Chicago to some degree.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_02: Because there's black folks in Chicago sound more country.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_02: When I was in New York one time, and I'm thinking when I was first there, I'm from Chicago.
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_02: It's a big city.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_02: And I was talking, and some and some New Yorker, hey man, you sound country.
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_02: I do.
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, really?
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_02: Where are you from?
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_02: The country?
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_02: I'm from Chicago.
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_02: New Yorkers think everybody who's not from New York is from New York.
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_02: I do.
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_01: Marina Franklin.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_01: You know Marina Franklin?
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_01: I do.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_01: She does a great impression of.
• 42:30
  SPEAKER_01: She's from Chicago.
• 42:30
  SPEAKER_01: She's from Chicago.
• 42:31
  SPEAKER_01: She does a great impression of like, you know, Portillo's when they yell at your number, like 7.5, see you in time, you know, whatever.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 42:37
  SPEAKER_01: She does a great impression of like a classic Chicago girl yelling all your numbers.
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_01: If you ever see her ass can do it, it's fucking hysterical.
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• 43:13
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• 43:17
  SPEAKER_01: But no, I mean I do think moving to New York, if you're from Chicago, New Yorkers sort of look at you like, oh, okay, you get it.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_06: Where do people goof up your name more if they see it?
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_01: Like, do you get like Maddie O here?
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_01: I used to at OpenMics here before anyone knew me.
• 43:31
  SPEAKER_01: I'd be at Lottie's on a Tuesday, you know, waiting to go up, and then people like Maddie O'Lane.
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_01: It'll be like me and Ray Hollob at the getting all our open mics together.
• 43:41
  SPEAKER_06: Maddie O'Lane.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_01: No one is Ray's.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_01: Where's Ray?
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_01: No one makes me laugh harder in the world than Ray Hollob.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_01: I just he's a comics comic too.
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_01: Like people st comics stop to watch him.
• 43:54
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_01: He had there's sometimes some like juniors.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_01: There's some bits that Ray does.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_01: Though that just like I'm like weeping, and I remember being the back of Lottie's.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_01: Oh man.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_01: Oh man.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_01: That is the fun thing about consistently.
• 44:09
  SPEAKER_01: Does he still do the Michael Kane?
• 44:11
  SPEAKER_01: Him and I did that at open mic.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_01: There's an open there was an open mic near Timothy O'Toole's on Wednesday because we never went to Coles.
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_01: We weren't cool enough.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_01: I talked to River Butcher about this all the time, and he was like, Yeah, you never came to Coles that much.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, Oh no, I was with Ray Hollob and uh Choxie.
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_01: We would go Wednesdays at like this like in 2010, and we would go to an open mic near Timothy O'Toole's, so downtown.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_01: And I don't they allowed you to do five minutes and there wasn't that many people on.
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_01: And so one night Ray Hollop had these glasses, and he was like, he he goes up to do his Michael Cain impression.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_01: What I love about Ray is he loves how like the uncomfortableness of it all.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_01: I love how I turn my phone off and it people still get through.
• 44:51
  SPEAKER_01: I that doesn't even make sense.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_01: That might be our next guest.
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um, my friend Francesco De Carlo, my opener's here, and he's from Italy.
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_01: Anyway, I'm getting him D dish pizza just to watch.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_01: And uh but but Ray Hollib got up there and he put these glasses on and he just goes, uh, uh everyone at this uh this is my impression of Michael Cain.
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_01: Never blink.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_01: Never blink, never blink, never blink.
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_01: And he did that for five minutes.
• 45:18
  SPEAKER_01: The host was furious, people couldn't get it.
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_01: I couldn't break he did it for me.
• 45:23
  SPEAKER_01: I was laughing so hard.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_01: He had a bit one time about I don't want to give away his bits, but he had a bit one time about like aliens.
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_01: Have you heard this bit?
• 45:35
  SPEAKER_01: The alien lands, and I had a whip with me, and I whoosh, I was whoosh, I teased the whip, and the alien scurried away.
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_01: And then an alien invasion came, and they all had whips, and everyone was confused, but I knew why.
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, just like how does his brain go there?
• 45:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but Ray taught me there's so many comic Chicago comics that taught me things I held on for life.
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I love it.
• 45:55
  SPEAKER_01: Ray Hollop taught me that I need to go uh every night to open mics, work on the same joke every night, and let that joke grow.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_01: So I didn't understand that until I went with Ray and said, oh, okay, so I can't.
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_01: If I'm at, you know, uh if I'm at Lottie's on Tuesday and then we're at this place on Wednesday, or I go stop by Kohl's or Thursday.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_01: I'm at what was Thursday?
• 46:15
  SPEAKER_01: It was by old time Shubas.
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_01: There was also Shuba's.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, my god, memories.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_01: You know, um, you have to work on the same bit.
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_01: So by the time I got to New York, I was in that routine.
• 46:24
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, New York there were 72 mics a night.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_01: So you could do five mics a night.
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's crazy.
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_06: Where did you move when you moved out there?
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_01: Greenwich Village.
• 46:32
  SPEAKER_01: My friend had an apartment, it was a su it was a tenement apartment that's illegal with a bathtub in the kitchen, and not like architectural digest, isn't this cool?
• 46:41
  SPEAKER_01: It was like I washed my dishes and ass in there.
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_01: I live like a Polish immigrant from 1940, and and I loved it.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um but yeah, and I learned how to be more expressive on stage from Candy Lawrence.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_01: I learned how to deal with anger on stage from Natalie Jones.
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_01: You all the name of people I don't even know.
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_01: I know, but this was my it was my crew, Butterboss sisters.
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, not both.
• 47:02
  SPEAKER_01: I know them.
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, they let me, they were there were so few gay men doing it.
• 47:07
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, the first gay man I ever saw do stand-up in my life, I had to wait 23 years to see a gay man do stand-up.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_01: It was Bill Cruz.
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_01: Never saw my.
• 47:18
  SPEAKER_06: So you didn't know anyone on television, no one that you saw that you were like, who I mean the Charlie Paul Lane.
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_02: No, you know who he he was it was one of those things where you would assume, but then he came out.
• 47:36
  SPEAKER_02: Kevin from Boston.
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_02: Remember uh Kevin Meany.
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_02: Kevin Meany.
• 47:41
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, it's like you saw that act, you knew he was gay even before he said he was gay.
• 47:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because I know Mario Cantone is the biggest Did his wife think that when she saw his act?
• 47:49
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_02: She came to that same conclusion.
• 47:52
  SPEAKER_01: But Mario Cantone was the biggest one that I had in my mind, but you have to remember there I didn't have exposure to it.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_01: So there were gay comics, maybe that we knew.
• 48:00
  SPEAKER_06: But they weren't talking about being gay.
• 48:02
  SPEAKER_01: Or if they were, how would I have access to that?
• 48:04
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_01: So there was Ellen, there was Rosie O'Donnell, there was Wanda Sykes, there was that tons of gay women I saw, you know, but I never I didn't even think it was possible.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_01: I literally did not think it was possible.
• 48:14
  SPEAKER_01: It was not for us.
• 48:15
  SPEAKER_01: We cannot do this, we're not accepted.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_01: This is not something we can do.
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_01: So I saw Bill Cruz and it changed my life.
• 48:21
  SPEAKER_06: Who else would you say now is in that conversation?
• 48:23
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, now there's like I mean, everyone from Tim Dylan to Joel Kambooster to Julio Torres to John Early to Jay Jordan to I mean, there's so many.
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_01: Even any any kind of queer comment from my friend Connor to my friend Nico to my to Jay McBride to my friend James Tom to Tranna, my friend Tranna Winter, who she lives in Montreal.
• 48:41
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, Bob the drag queen.
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, like, there's so do you think that comedy was something that you were using to connect with people or relate to people, or that it was just something that I don't know.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know, I don't know what my real goal was at first.
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_01: I just was like a uh like Joan would say, it was like a nun's calling.
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_01: It was just like a feeling of all people to be a nun.
• 49:02
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, but it really was like a feeling.
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, this I need this is something I'm drawn to.
• 49:07
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know what it was.
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_02: You were you were drawn to doing comedy.
• 49:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 49:11
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_01: I just there's no I don't know how else to describe it besides like I remember seeing I remember watching Kathy and Margaret Cho because those are the only comics I related to ever.
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't relate to now I can appreciate like Chris Rock or I can appreciate all these like straight comics who had these amazing specials, but at the time I couldn't, and I was always afraid for the gay joke and this and that and I'm so the first people I ever heard ever speak positively about gay people my whole life was Margaret Cho or Kathy Griffin.
• 49:39
  SPEAKER_01: I never heard it.
• 49:40
  SPEAKER_01: I never thought it was possible.
• 49:42
  SPEAKER_01: I came.
• 49:42
  SPEAKER_01: But Joan Joan, watching Joan when I was 21, Joan actually switched something in me.
• 49:49
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't realize how she could weaponize in a way comedy for her was a weapon, and she used it, she was came out swinging, and I never saw I still don't know a comic.
• 50:01
  SPEAKER_01: I I don't think there's any comic that's ever lived that could go up against Joan.
• 50:05
  SPEAKER_01: I really don't, you know, and straight guys tend to brush her off, she's a woman, and da da da, you know.
• 50:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um but I remember talking to Jim.
• 50:12
  SPEAKER_06: She had the hosting uh ability too.
• 50:14
  SPEAKER_06: She was such a great host.
• 50:15
  SPEAKER_01: And I talked to Jim Norton about this, about top five best comics, and he always stands up for Jo.
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_01: Jim is always, you know, standing up for the right people.
• 50:21
  SPEAKER_01: Him and Patrice stood up for the Golden Girls one time, and I loved that.
• 50:24
  SPEAKER_01: But um, I'll never forget that.
• 50:27
  SPEAKER_01: But uh yeah, so you have to remember, like, I came into comedy not with the same influence as everybody else.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I did not come into comedy being like, I love this guy, I want to be that guy, I want I love this style of humor, I love that.
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_01: Didn't I didn't have it?
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_01: So when I came into comedy, all I knew of comedy was Joan, Kathy, and Margaret.
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_01: That's about it.
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_01: Ellen, when I was younger.
• 50:48
  SPEAKER_06: I can't imagine what it feels like to be almost adapting to the audience in a way that you probably had to in the beginning.
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_06: It's good.
• 50:58
  SPEAKER_06: And now to go out there and you have your fans, your people that are there.
• 51:05
  SPEAKER_06: You must feel more free than ever to talk about everything that's on your mind.
• 51:10
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I will say, you know, my fear of going into it was that oh, I'm gay and they're gonna judge me, and that's not the case.
• 51:15
  SPEAKER_01: What I learned from comics when you're actually doing open mics and comics is that comics only care if you really work hard and you're funny.
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, and you're a good hang, let's be honest.
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 51:25
  SPEAKER_01: You know, so that's it.
• 51:26
  SPEAKER_01: And once I once I figured that out pretty quickly, no one no one the gay thing wasn't a thing.
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you would get it every once in a while.
• 51:35
  SPEAKER_01: I get the weird question of like, how much do you have to determine what is and isn't gay in your act?
• 51:39
  SPEAKER_01: It's so the the amount of homophobia built into that question is so big, I couldn't even unpack it for that person.
• 51:45
  SPEAKER_01: So I just let them live their life.
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but you know, I I really feel that my experience overall with comics, and I was surrounded by predominantly straight men doing stand-up and and women, uh, was a good one.
• 51:59
  SPEAKER_01: And it also taught me like, okay, like I have to convince these 60 comics that what I'm trying to talk about, this is something they're not familiar with.
• 52:07
  SPEAKER_01: How do I get them on my side?
• 52:09
  SPEAKER_01: How I how do I make these people see how I see it and then relate to me at the same time?
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_01: So because I wasn't I didn't hit until 2021, that's a long time to constantly build a bridge to audiences.
• 52:23
  SPEAKER_01: And I enjoyed that because I really feel like, you know, in a very small way, I really think we're so instilled with so much fear about the other that you know you just kind of sit in your own echo chamber.
• 52:35
  SPEAKER_01: But people come and they see someone who's funny and it's not what they expected, it shatters their idea of what it means to be gay or trans or black or whatever.
• 52:44
  SPEAKER_01: And then they leave that comedy club, and the next time they think about a gay person, they don't think of what Fox News told them.
• 52:49
  SPEAKER_01: They think about what they felt in that moment.
• 52:52
  SPEAKER_01: You know, so it allows you an opportunity with comedy to show people you're more alike than you are different, and that that came from just not from just having to do clubs for so long.
• 53:03
  SPEAKER_06: Don't you feel that that is more than ever what people are kind of flocking to comedy for is just that truth, that realness.
• 53:11
  SPEAKER_06: Sometimes and you have like to be interacting with people after the shows and what are they saying to you, like, man, I found you online, or man, you you've inspired me to do this or that.
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_06: I'm sure that you're having this uh people.
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I do.
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_01: It always feels nice, but I just kind of you know you sell any merch.
• 53:29
  SPEAKER_01: No, I hate merch.
• 53:31
  SPEAKER_01: I had to like I I bought this whatever, long story short.
• 53:34
  SPEAKER_01: Merch really stresses me out.
• 53:36
  SPEAKER_01: I don't do it.
• 53:37
  SPEAKER_01: I have to sell it or you don't I have merch.
• 53:39
  SPEAKER_01: I bought it years ago, and I'm just trying, but please just get rid of it so I don't have to look at it anymore, and I'll never do merch again.
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_01: We have merch my podcast, Nick's in charge of it.
• 53:46
  SPEAKER_01: I just don't want to tell you.
• 53:47
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, talk about your podcast with your your friend.
• 53:50
  SPEAKER_06: Is it called Best Friends?
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, it's called I Never Liked You.
• 53:53
  SPEAKER_01: And uh it's uh it's me and my friend Nick Smith.
• 53:56
  SPEAKER_01: Friend, loose term.
• 53:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um he's a person that I know.
• 54:01
  SPEAKER_01: Um he looks like the slender man in a pussy blouse and has no real knowledge of anything.
• 54:07
  SPEAKER_01: And uh yeah, he's insufferable and we do a podcast to you.
• 54:11
  SPEAKER_06: That's brilliant.
• 54:12
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, here I am trying to team up with a friend of mine.
• 54:15
  SPEAKER_06: No, it's better to do it with someone I respect and enjoy.
• 54:19
  SPEAKER_06: That was your first mistake.
• 54:21
  SPEAKER_06: I never liked you.
• 54:23
  SPEAKER_06: Fuck.
• 54:24
  SPEAKER_06: I know, man.
• 54:25
  SPEAKER_06: We're gonna have everybody on that show.
• 54:26
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that'd be a long let's start with that ref.
• 54:30
  SPEAKER_06: I had a story last week about this ref.
• 54:33
  SPEAKER_06: Uh uh, you know, I coach grammar school basketball.
• 54:35
  SPEAKER_06: Cool.
• 54:35
  SPEAKER_06: And I um, you know, sometimes I bitch about a call, but this ref is trolling me online, but he hates everything I post and says I say.
• 54:42
  SPEAKER_06: A ref?
• 54:43
  SPEAKER_06: A ref.
• 54:44
  SPEAKER_06: A ref.
• 54:44
  SPEAKER_06: A grammar school.
• 54:45
  SPEAKER_01: Someone who professionally watches a game.
• 54:47
  SPEAKER_01: I can't even think of how humiliating that is to put that shirt on to be like, I'm not as good as everybody out here, and I'm not I I think I'm better than the person sitting in the you're doing nothing that I can't do in the audience.
• 54:58
  SPEAKER_01: I know.
• 54:58
  SPEAKER_01: I want to just humiliate him.
• 55:00
  SPEAKER_01: What's the name?
• 55:00
  SPEAKER_06: Can you paint a an unflattering picture of him?
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_06: Because I've seen your artwork, dude.
• 55:03
  SPEAKER_06: That was another thing I have to paint.
• 55:05
  SPEAKER_01: It sounds like he already just, you know, hold up a mirror.
• 55:08
  SPEAKER_06: Do you do you still draw, paint?
• 55:12
  SPEAKER_01: Um, not as much as I used to.
• 55:14
  SPEAKER_01: The skills are still there, but I mean that's I was storyboarding television commercials uh in fashion as as a profession.
• 55:20
  SPEAKER_01: So uh that's what moved me to New York.
• 55:22
  SPEAKER_01: So I would draw.
• 55:23
  SPEAKER_01: What?
• 55:24
  SPEAKER_01: What is happening?
• 55:25
  SPEAKER_06: Um how many things do you do, Mateo?
• 55:27
  SPEAKER_06: Well, you were educated here at the Art Institute.
• 55:28
  SPEAKER_06: We'll get to anal in a minute.
• 55:29
  SPEAKER_06: Did you go to school?
• 55:31
  SPEAKER_01: I went to school at the school, the Art Institute of Chicago.
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_01: That school changed my life.
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_01: That was it's the hardest art school to get into.
• 55:37
  SPEAKER_01: There's only 1,700 kids.
• 55:38
  SPEAKER_01: We have no money, my family.
• 55:40
  SPEAKER_01: And I brought five drawings and we got in.
• 55:41
  SPEAKER_01: Of course, my dad had to get loans.
• 55:43
  SPEAKER_01: I paid him back.
• 55:44
  SPEAKER_06: And um So wait, how old are you when you're applying for the 19 years old?
• 55:48
  SPEAKER_01: You brought five drawings, yeah.
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_01: Of what?
• 55:51
  SPEAKER_06: What were the drawings of?
• 55:52
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I went to um I went to community college.
• 55:55
  SPEAKER_01: I just went for like a semester because my mom wanted me to.
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't get good grades in high school because I didn't show up to class and I just didn't care.
• 56:02
  SPEAKER_01: And um That sounds about right.
• 56:05
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, and look look what happened, didn't even matter.
• 56:07
  SPEAKER_01: I could have I should have uh at least tried a little bit.
• 56:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um if I could go back now, I would have enjoyed it a little bit better, but I was gay and closeted a little bit.
• 56:16
  SPEAKER_01: 30 something.
• 56:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 56:18
  SPEAKER_01: You dominate in there.
• 56:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, true.
• 56:19
  SPEAKER_01: I'll be like Adam Sandler.
• 56:20
  SPEAKER_01: What was that movie?
• 56:21
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Billy, yeah, Billy Madison.
• 56:23
  SPEAKER_01: I just go through all the classes again.
• 56:25
  SPEAKER_01: They call me faggot still.
• 56:27
  SPEAKER_01: Um and they weren't wrong.
• 56:28
  SPEAKER_01: Really, I look back now, I'm like, they really were they were on to something.
• 56:31
  SPEAKER_02: Um Tee Chanley has changed my life.
• 56:36
  SPEAKER_02: Skin has been amazing.
• 56:37
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, we're the number one men's skincare routine in America.
• 56:41
  SPEAKER_03: When I got here, they go, uh, we're just waiting for the podcast guest.
• 56:45
  SPEAKER_03: We know you're here for pictures.
• 56:46
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, you were a model?
• 56:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you guys, he's glowing.
• 56:49
  SPEAKER_01: In fact, Aprazi was like, your skin's awesome.
• 56:52
  SPEAKER_03: Just like I look forward to like, I'm washing my face before I go to sleep.
• 56:55
  SPEAKER_03: I think we haven't had any 40-year-olds on the podcast, and I said I'm 50.
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_03: And everybody goes, What?
• 57:00
  SPEAKER_06: T Shanley.
• 57:01
  SPEAKER_06: It's the way we face the day.
• 57:04
  SPEAKER_06: And and tomorrow night, the Chicago Theater.
• 57:06
  SPEAKER_06: Have you done Chicago Theater before?
• 57:07
  SPEAKER_01: I did it once three years ago, so this is my first time coming back, and uh, I'm very excited.
• 57:13
  SPEAKER_01: I I signed my name on the wall.
• 57:14
  SPEAKER_01: I wanted to sign it next to Liza Minelli, uh, but Liza is under a plate glass with Frank Sinatra, so you can't get to it.
• 57:22
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, really?
• 57:23
  SPEAKER_01: So I went to uh Michelle Obama because I felt like, well, that's appropriate, you know.
• 57:27
  SPEAKER_01: I love Michelle Obama.
• 57:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um you should sign it again.
• 57:30
  SPEAKER_01: I am gonna sign it again.
• 57:31
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna try and find Katie Lang and sign it next to her.
• 57:33
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, there you go.
• 57:34
  SPEAKER_01: Or Annie Lennox, if she's there.
• 57:35
  SPEAKER_01: I love Annie Lennox.
• 57:36
  SPEAKER_01: All the game icons, really.
• 57:38
  SPEAKER_06: You also mentioned uh you did WGN morning news.
• 57:40
  SPEAKER_06: I did a big connection there with this show.
• 57:43
  SPEAKER_06: We've had a lot of.
• 57:44
  SPEAKER_06: Really?
• 57:44
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, we did.
• 57:45
  SPEAKER_01: How exciting, dude.
• 57:46
  SPEAKER_01: WGN.
• 57:47
  SPEAKER_06: Dude, that and that show, we always say that's one moves the needle.
• 57:50
  SPEAKER_06: Like people are really, I don't know what Chicago's gonna do if they ever lose that show.
• 57:54
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I feel like WGN is so Chicago rooted.
• 57:58
  SPEAKER_01: Like it's like the funny morning show, like they're kind of more loose, you know.
• 58:01
  SPEAKER_01: Tom Skilling was on WGN, wasn't he?
• 58:04
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, right?
• 58:05
  SPEAKER_01: Tom Skilling, the weather guy, right?
• 58:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 58:07
  SPEAKER_01: He I remember once at uh Pride uh in um I don't know, like 2008.
• 58:12
  SPEAKER_01: Tom Skilling was on a float.
• 58:13
  SPEAKER_01: I was so starstruck, and I remember him waving, so he was so excited.
• 58:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um but that's a memory I have.
• 58:19
  SPEAKER_01: Uh but yeah, it was so fun to go on there and be, you know, WGN, all Chicago stuff.
• 58:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 58:25
  SPEAKER_01: Although I'm forgetting, you know what sucks?
• 58:27
  SPEAKER_01: I am forgetting like navigation in Chicago.
• 58:31
  SPEAKER_01: Like I just knew every street, every way, every how to get if I'm in Jefferson Park and I have to get down, even if I have to get to fucking, I don't know, downtown.
• 58:39
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what is the best street?
• 58:40
  SPEAKER_01: If it's 4 p.m., do I take northway with Sheridan?
• 58:44
  SPEAKER_01: No, I but my license has been expired for like 10 years.
• 58:47
  SPEAKER_01: I live in New York now.
• 58:48
  SPEAKER_06: It will come back to you immediately.
• 58:49
  SPEAKER_01: I know I just like a diversity or division.
• 58:51
  SPEAKER_01: Now I'm forgetting.
• 58:52
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, okay, I can take Broadway up, but is that Sheridan?
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_01: Which one's Sheridan?
• 58:55
  SPEAKER_01: I forget.
• 58:56
  SPEAKER_01: Then it was on Western today.
• 58:57
  SPEAKER_01: It was like, no, Mateo, Western runs north and south, and it's west of Ashland.
• 59:01
  SPEAKER_01: And I was, but it took me so long to remember that.
• 59:03
  SPEAKER_01: Because now I only think New York Streets.
• 59:05
  SPEAKER_01: How long did it take you to learn to navigate in New York?
• 59:08
  SPEAKER_01: Pretty quick.
• 59:09
  SPEAKER_01: Once you do open mics in New York, I found that was the best way to learn the city.
• 59:14
  SPEAKER_01: New York is so much more integrated and so much more connected, and so much more like it's just you know.
• 59:18
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, Chicago's a huge city, and I love Chicago.
• 59:21
  SPEAKER_01: I'll never forget being 21 and going to New York for the first time and going over, I think it was the Manhattan Bridge, and just seeing the scale of the city and just being like, oh my god, like it is breathtakingly huge.
• 59:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 59:38
  SPEAKER_06: The all the impression and a lot of stuff that I growing up, my perspective was like outside of like the Bulls and Michael Jordan.
• 59:47
  SPEAKER_06: At that New York was always like, it was about the Yankees and the Knicks to me as a kid.
• 59:52
  SPEAKER_06: And that was the rivalry.
• 59:53
  SPEAKER_01: I sat court side at a Knicks game.
• 59:55
  SPEAKER_01: Sam Morrell brought me.
• 59:56
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, you did?
• 59:57
  SPEAKER_01: And they were playing the Bulls.
• 59:58
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, and I do not know who won because I was staring at Ann Hathaway the whole time.
• 1:00:05
  SPEAKER_01: She was at they did.
• 1:00:07
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 1:00:07
  SPEAKER_01: I oh they were yeah, the Bulls bad.
• 1:00:09
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, the Bulls are like right there.
• 1:00:10
  SPEAKER_01: But they always play well at MSG.
• 1:00:11
  SPEAKER_01: They always play well there.
• 1:00:13
  SPEAKER_01: They were like this far away from us, and Sam is like crazy at these games.
• 1:00:17
  SPEAKER_01: Like I've never he was unhinged.
• 1:00:18
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, he's a huge next guy.
• 1:00:19
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, he was like, Oh, fuck this, and da-da-da.
• 1:00:21
  SPEAKER_01: And like one of the Bulls guys was like, Come on, you know, like it was even like you know, Sam's like, all right, yeah.
• 1:00:26
  SPEAKER_01: But um I heard the Raffles said, Oh, it's not that slow.
• 1:00:29
  SPEAKER_05: Literally, he was a good one.
• 1:00:30
  SPEAKER_01: Rapmenting on it next time.
• 1:00:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I but I love Sam Morelli.
• 1:00:36
  SPEAKER_01: The fact that he was just like, You want to come to a Knicks game with me?
• 1:00:38
  SPEAKER_01: I wore his jersey just too big, so I was cuddling it.
• 1:00:41
  SPEAKER_01: Like it was great.
• 1:00:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he's a good dude.
• 1:00:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, fine.
• 1:00:43
  SPEAKER_02: I was just telling Pat that I think it's cool to be from Chicago to be able to because we can go to New York or LA and it'd be a new experience, and you can see it from an outsider's perspective in a way.
• 1:00:57
  SPEAKER_02: You know, you don't grow up with it, so you're not just inured and indifferent to it, you know.
• 1:01:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but as a Chicagoan in New York, I feel we were given enough skills to navigate New York.
• 1:01:06
  SPEAKER_02: Chicago is like a New York starter kit.
• 1:01:11
  SPEAKER_01: It's training wheels for New York.
• 1:01:13
  SPEAKER_01: It really is.
• 1:01:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:15
  SPEAKER_06: I agree.
• 1:01:15
  SPEAKER_06: Well, you have gone there and taken off, man, and I am so excited for you, dude.
• 1:01:19
  SPEAKER_06: I uh we ending it's done.
• 1:01:22
  SPEAKER_06: Well, I got to go pick up my kids.
• 1:01:23
  SPEAKER_06: I have a goal forever.
• 1:01:25
  SPEAKER_02: I still want to know more about building that audience.
• 1:01:28
  SPEAKER_06: And you got um just so what will you do tonight?
• 1:01:30
  SPEAKER_06: What will you do tonight with the show tomorrow?
• 1:01:32
  SPEAKER_01: Well, Francesco DiCarlo, uh, who just did the tonight show, everybody.
• 1:01:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um, he he's from Italy, and um he's never had deep dish pizza before, he's never been to Chicago.
• 1:01:43
  SPEAKER_01: So I was like, all right, we're gonna go to Lou's.
• 1:01:45
  SPEAKER_01: I know I could go to Pequad's, I but I just let's start classics, and I'm not doing Gino's or Giordano's.
• 1:01:52
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not even Gino's.
• 1:01:54
  SPEAKER_01: Can you imagine being brought to Gino's East to eat food?
• 1:01:58
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, the indignity.
• 1:01:59
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, we signed the wall when we were a kid and everything, but like whatever.
• 1:02:02
  SPEAKER_01: Like the, you know.
• 1:02:03
  SPEAKER_01: But um, yeah, so we're gonna go get deep dish pizza, him, me, and Nick, and I'll watch, I'll see Francesco's mind melt, and then we'll uh I don't know.
• 1:02:11
  SPEAKER_01: I'll probably go back to my hotel and watch X-Men and sleep and get ready for the show tomorrow.
• 1:02:14
  SPEAKER_06: Good deal, man.
• 1:02:15
  SPEAKER_06: That's great.
• 1:02:15
  SPEAKER_06: And then you got all this coming up.
• 1:02:17
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, get on uh get online and uh connect with Mateo.
• 1:02:21
  SPEAKER_06: Be one of his million followers, couple million.
• 1:02:25
  SPEAKER_06: Dude, um that's where you're posting most of your stuff.
• 1:02:27
  SPEAKER_06: You got a great special.
• 1:02:28
  SPEAKER_06: I I caught the you know, not the entire thing, but I'm gonna finish this thing.
• 1:02:33
  SPEAKER_06: The advice special that you shot.
• 1:02:36
  SPEAKER_06: Was that at the cellar?
• 1:02:36
  SPEAKER_01: I did, yeah.
• 1:02:37
  SPEAKER_01: I don't ever do crowd work, but every blue moon I'll shoot crowd work special just to kind of have stuff while you're writing new material.
• 1:02:44
  SPEAKER_06: And you're so comfortable with the crowd work and and talking about the city.
• 1:02:47
  SPEAKER_06: Well, they ask ridiculous questions.
• 1:02:48
  SPEAKER_01: I have them come to me.
• 1:02:49
  SPEAKER_01: I don't I don't like going up to somebody like you look dumb, you know.
• 1:02:52
  SPEAKER_01: I have them talk to me.
• 1:02:53
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that is uh that's awesome.
• 1:02:55
  SPEAKER_06: And uh and here you go to Italy, Spain, Belgium, Germany, and then back into the well, you're going through Canada too.
• 1:03:03
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, Calgary, Montreal, Montreal, and then um, well, you're going to Mexico City in here too.
• 1:03:09
  SPEAKER_06: Yes, I mean Otscore Headline.
• 1:03:10
  SPEAKER_06: You have no excuse not to see Mateo.
• 1:03:12
  SPEAKER_06: If you're on planet Earth, he's coming to a place near you.
• 1:03:16
  SPEAKER_06: You gotta connect with Mateo online, check out his stuff, and uh so good to see you.
• 1:03:23
  SPEAKER_06: Dwayne, you're at uh what this is gonna be Aaron next week, but you got Laugh Factory coming up and Lincoln Lodge.
• 1:03:28
  SPEAKER_02: Good night tomorrow.
• 1:03:29
  SPEAKER_02: And next week, Laugh Factory Friday and Lincoln Lodge Saturday.
• 1:03:33
  SPEAKER_02: Beautiful.
• 1:03:34
  SPEAKER_06: I'll be uh I'm bouncing around as well.
• 1:03:36
  SPEAKER_06: I got some stuff coming up at Zany's Rosemont.
• 1:03:38
  SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna announce soon.
• 1:03:39
  SPEAKER_06: And then I have um where am I going?
• 1:03:42
  SPEAKER_06: Syracuse.
• 1:03:43
  SPEAKER_06: Syracuse funny bone.
• 1:03:45
  SPEAKER_06: All right.
• 1:03:45
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, Mateo, thank you for being here, dude.
• 1:03:47
  SPEAKER_06: Dwayne, appreciate you guys tuning in.
• 1:03:49
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• 1:03:53
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• 1:03:55
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, I want to ask you.
• 1:03:56
  SPEAKER_06: Do you moisturize?
• 1:03:57
  SPEAKER_06: You have to use you use skincare.
• 1:03:58
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:03:59
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• 1:04:00
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• 1:04:03
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• 1:04:05
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 1:04:05
  SPEAKER_06: So what do you do?
• 1:04:06
  SPEAKER_01: You you moisturize, you moisturize and SPF, but you know, I also will get Botox every once in a while and you know, lasers and stuff.
• 1:04:13
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, you're you gotta dialed in.
• 1:04:15
  SPEAKER_06: You're looking good.
• 1:04:16
  SPEAKER_06: Dwayne will tell you, we got a good product.
• 1:04:18
  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna do that.
• 1:04:18
  SPEAKER_06: You're gonna be 40 next month.
• 1:04:19
  SPEAKER_01: So I gotta be what?
• 1:04:20
  SPEAKER_01: 40.
• 1:04:21
  SPEAKER_01: 40?
• 1:04:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, so I gotta keep this going.
• 1:04:23
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna be 50.
• 1:04:25
  SPEAKER_01: You look great.
• 1:04:26
  SPEAKER_01: Ah, well, I appreciate that.
• 1:04:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:04:28
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna be 70.
• 1:04:29
  SPEAKER_01: Stop it.
• 1:04:30
  SPEAKER_01: I'll fucking throw you out of here.
• 1:04:32
  SPEAKER_06: Alright, guys, have a great week.
• 1:04:34
  SPEAKER_06: We'll be back soon.
• 1:04:35
  SPEAKER_06: Uh I told him we're gonna got a cub coming on here.
• 1:04:38
  SPEAKER_06: Whole lot of great guests, so uh make sure you tune in.
• 1:04:41
  SPEAKER_06: Thanks, guys.
• 1:04:42
  SPEAKER_06: Later.
• 1:04:42
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• 1:04:43
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• 1:04:47
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• 1:04:48
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• 1:04:59
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