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Remain in God | Why Self-Reliance is Self-Sabotage · The Curt Landry Podcast

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Well, hey, everyone, you're listening to the Curt Landry podcast, where we're going to
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help you discover your kingdom destiny.
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My name is Darrell and sitting right beside me, it's his show.
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It's Rabbi Curt Landry himself.
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And in this episode, we're talking all about identity and how to actually use knowing where
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you gain your identity to help accomplish your goals.
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But as always, before we jump into this episode, Rabbi, how was the weekend?
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How's the family doing?
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How are you doing?
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Listen, this was a great weekend.
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Quite a shift because we were spent a week down in Florida and then to come home to Oklahoma
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to really bad weather starting to come in and of course, a sterning winter here.
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But the good side of that is there's something personally for me to be able to come home,
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have the fireplace going, puts me in a mode to start cooking food.
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My family loves that side of it.
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So it's a good weekend, but it's also a weekend where I'm really focusing on, it's January,
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it's New Year's.
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And one of the things that I actually have in my program of goals to grow 2024, one of
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the things that bothers me when I read it was that only 8% of the people after February
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are either doing their goals or their year-end planning.
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And that really bothers me.
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And I thought, what can I do to be able to help people to not be trapped by being all
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excited, writing new goals, New Year's resolutions, but then how can I help them to facilitate
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actually changing their mindset to be able to go into accomplishing what they desire
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to accomplish?
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And that really comes down to an identity issue.
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Yeah.
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So, you throw out the percentage there for, I mean, it's kind of sad as humans in Falling
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Creation that in the second month of the year, we fall off that quick.
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Why do you think that it's just so easy for us to do that?
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Boy, I could just...
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Now, listen, I could write a book on this, but I'll just...
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A brief history.
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Okay, I come out of the corporate world.
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I'm corporately trained in behavioral sciences.
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And what happens with that is like self-improvement things, okay?
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What happens is you have to constantly be reinforcing the self-improvement.
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So then I get saved.
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But when I get saved, I realize now we actually have a power of the Holy Spirit and the Word
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of God to bring transformation.
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So what I have found is if you take practical time, task, and activity management where
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you're making good use of your practical times and you have goals, say, I have to do this.
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And I always say, underestimate your goals.
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So many people say, I'm going to do five or six things in one day.
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Listen, just do two or three.
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And then, you know what?
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If you get them done, go for the four and the fifth and you'll feel good.
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But if you have like five or seven and then you only get like six and then you feel bad.
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So a lot of this is managing your emotions.
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But what I have found is, and I can give you an example here a little bit, but if you'll
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take your goal of what you're accomplishing to do, write it out and then put scripture
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to it and then actually pray and start memorizing the scripture that actually reinforces the
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change you want to make, it becomes supernatural.
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And I think that's the difference between me, let's say, than a Tony Robbins or somebody
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that's doing that type of behavioral change.
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Listen, all that positive motivation, Norman Vincent Peale, all that stuff does get results
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to a degree.
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But if you will take practical habits and patterns and then put scripture to it to where
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the two actually are working together, the results, you won't have 8% of the people.
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It's going to up the percentage.
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And I hope people will listen to this podcast and listen to us because this is an opportunity
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for them to really, once you start becoming knowing that you can accomplish whatever God
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puts in front of you and you actually believe it, it changes your self perspective.
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Curtlandry.com forward slash goals 2024.
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You can get your free download, free PDF.
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This is basically what we're really getting into, Rabbi, is your goals to grow for 2024.
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Before we really take this conversation off into what we're going to be talking about
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in identity and figuring out who you are and how you understanding what your identity is,
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is going to help you really accomplish those goals this year for you.
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Let's talk about this podcast, right?
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It's a little bit different type of medium that you've really done before.
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I mean, you've had a podcast for years, but it's a little bit different flow, like the
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style.
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What are you wanting the listeners who jump on board, subscribe to this podcast, and most
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likely watch you on Tuesday nights and Friday nights during Shabbat?
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What's that one little piece of value of saying, hey, subscribe to this podcast?
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Here's the biggest request that I get and the biggest request that I can't fulfill.
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I mean, I just can't do it.
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People will say, I would just like to sit down and talk to you and basically pick your
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brain about this or that.
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With the responsibilities that I have with what I do and my family, I don't have time
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for that.
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You work with me and you know-
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Pretty busy.
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Yeah, because most people my age are slowing down and I'm actually going to be busier the
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next 10 years, not less busy.
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To answer your question is there's nothing more valuable than experience.
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What happens is I've had a lot of experience and I want to be able to impart that experience
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like to you and Morgan.
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I want you to take that experience on to the babies.
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That's really my heart.
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My heart is, listen, I had some really good influencers in my life at key points and I
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want to be able to give back.
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This is one of the ways this podcast is, so to say, let's sit down and have lunch together
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without the food.
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But I think what we're talking about people, listen, I don't think that I have it going
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on or I just know what works for me.
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I think the testimony of our life is good enough that people can say, well, like I tell
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people don't follow anybody that's not where you want to go.
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If they're not where you want to go, then you need to go find some other podcasts.
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Is that kind of like don't take money advice from broke people?
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Yeah.
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It's just-
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Diving into a little bit more, I mean, obviously, that's something I really want to bring in
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to this show is that people kind of know where your heart is for this because you've done
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content and media and live TV for years and years.
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When I came to you with this idea of the podcast and was kind of pitching around the team,
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I wanted a more laid back opportunity for you to really just kind of tell it how it
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is and just have a really easy conversation.
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I know it's my hope and I think it's your hope and the rest of the team that when people
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sit back and listen to this show, that they can kind of get to know you and learn from
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you in a more relaxed, relatable setting than, hey, I got a live notification trigger and
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so I need to jump on and try to see what Rabbi's got going on YouTube right now.
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I hope this media is the type of format where people feel comfortable and confident enough
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to maybe listen to an episode twice if it really helped them.
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Yeah, I do.
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Listen, just to be transparent, what happens is, listen, I'm very blessed to have a studio
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at my house.
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The reason it's kind of random is I'm a Holy Spirit guy and Christy will know it.
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All of a sudden she says, like, you start pacing and you get this weird look on your
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eyes.
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Christy says my eyes change and what happens is what I say is I said, listen, there's something
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bubbling up within me and so what I try to do is I try to go into my space in that office,
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which is a safe space for me and I basically just put the fire hose on and let it fly and
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this isn't that.
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This is like, let's just have a very practical kind of a dial down conversation so they can,
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listen, I'm not in that mode all the time.
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This is who I am sitting here.
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This is what I do.
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And you can ask me anything you want.
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And one of the things, I'll tell you, one of the strengths that the Lord's blessed me
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with is if I don't know something, that's why I can do live television and I'm like
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people see, I remember I went to Daystar and there was a bunch of stuff going on and it
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was, and someone came up and they said, Rabbi, would you pray?
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You seem so calm.
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And that was the comment and I said, well, I didn't realize I seemed so calm.
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And they said, why are you so calm?
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I said, because it's not my show.
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I said, all these people, there's 14 people running around.
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Those are your employees.
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This is not mine.
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I'm just here.
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All you're going to do is ask me questions.
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I'm either going to say, yes, I know, or no, I don't.
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And so, and so I think when people, you know, that's, I want it to be, listen, if you ask
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me a question and I don't have the answer, I can say, I'll think about it.
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We'll do it in the next episode.
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I just want to be able to really impart to people and help them and building trust in
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the ministry.
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Listen, we're not perfect, but we do have, if you're going to follow us, if you look
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at the track record, the ministry is very successful and the other side of it is, and
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I give all the credit to the Lord and my wife, but we're very blessed to have a godly family.
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Our children are active in the Lord, our grandchildren.
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We have, we're blessed with tremendous amount of godly friends.
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I mean, you know, some of our friends and I don't like the name dropping thing, but
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we have really solid friends and we've had them for a long time.
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I mean, if you look at Pastor Tim and Sandy, they've been with us 24 years.
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How many people do you know that actually co-pastor a church and have the same pastor
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24 years?
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I don't know anyone.
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So, so we're very blessed.
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And so what happens is if I can impart little behavioral choices and things that, that would
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help people, we're debt free.
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The ministry is debt free.
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I'm debt free.
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I mean, so like actually what we preach is, I mean, it works.
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We live it.
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Yeah, we live it.
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And so I'm just trying to be able to, if I would like everyone to be able to get there
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and if they can, if what we're sharing on the podcast helps them, I'm, I'm that really,
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that's what, that's the reward for me is that someone's blessed by it.
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Email your questions to podcast at curtlandry.com.
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We'll thumb through them each week as you bring those questions.
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Just make sure that you put in the title on the subject line.
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Hey, this is for the Curt Landry podcast.
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Say hey, say whatever you want to Rabbi.
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We'll, we'll get it in front of them so we can take some of those questions and, and,
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and help you on your spiritual journey in 2024.
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So Rabbi, let's, let's jump back to what we're talking about in this episode about identity
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and figuring that out and how that relates to your goals.
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And so I, I guess the first question really to get us going is, is how difficult, and
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this is a big question, but how difficult initially when you sit down to start a year,
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right?
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Or you start anything new, but you know, I want you to go much deeper in this from like
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a spiritual personal side of it.
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How difficult is it to one, identify your identity, right?
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And two, how do you activate that?
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Because I feel like you got to start there before we start talking about goals and about
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different things that you want to accomplish in your life.
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Yeah, Darrell, that's a great question.
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So if you go in my goals to grow by on page 11, it says your personal strategy for his
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kingdom.
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And the question is this, what do I need, and this kind of answers your question, what
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do I need to shift my mind away from so I can seek first the kingdom of God?
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So what is it that I need to shift my mind?
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Now, I, you know, a lot of times, listen, this is one of the struggles I've had inside,
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let's say the Christian world, is the Christian world and the business world, and I'm in both
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worlds, but the Christian world sometimes has a little bit of difficulty with the mind
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stuff.
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So if you start going into any kind of mind transformation or mind development, then it's
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like, oh my gosh, this is witchcraft, this is this and that.
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And I'll just tell you right now, it's not.
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Let me put you into a situation, okay?
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You work for a guy for 40 years, the guy is the greatest leader, everybody likes him.
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And then all of a sudden, suddenly he dies.
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And he dies when the goal, the goal for the whole company for all these years was to go
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to this place called the promised land.
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Right before you get to the promised land, the boss, Moses, is gone.
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And so now, what's the first thing the Spirit of God says to this young Joshua?
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He says, as I was with Moses, so I am with you.
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And so he says, well, that's great.
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How do I ask now?
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Now I am Joshua CEO, I'm not Joshua, the vice president, I'm CEO.
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How do I get that mind set?
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And what does he say to him?
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He says, meditate, which is a mental, meditate on the word of God, right?
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Day and night, that you might be of great success.
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So the first thing you have to do is you have to make a decision.
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And this is a choice, it's just a choice.
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You need to say to the Lord, and you can do it right now.
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And you can say, Lord, I want your mind and your influence because the scripture says,
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let this mind be in you, that's in Christ Jesus.
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You have to let it.
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That's what I'm saying.
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And ask the Lord to give you his mind for your life.
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Lord, what did you create me for?
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You have to start the process of asking.
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And Darrell, what will happen is if you'll ask, then what's going to happen is you're
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going to start reading stuff in scripture and devotionals, you're going to maybe even
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hear a podcast like this.
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And all of a sudden, you're going to go, oh my gosh, this is what he's got in mind for
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me.
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And what happens is dream goals will start to come.
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And that's where the passion is.
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And what you're going to find out is your dream goals and your passion are connected
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to the gifts that God has put in you, the nine spiritual gifts, whatever.
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Let's say you have five of the nine.
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It doesn't make any difference.
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But it starts in shifting your mind to say, I want God's will for my life, not mine, where
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there's actually a surrender, like, okay, I'm going to quit striving and I want to do
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what God has created me for.
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That's what we're going by.
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So Rabbi, you've kind of broken down that first layer.
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So let's pull back another one.
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Okay, let's go to what's the next thing.
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So I figured out identity purpose a little bit.
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And so now I've got a lot of ambition.
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I got a lot of things that I actually want to accomplish.
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And everybody's gone through things where they've struggled and trying to figure out
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how to get over the hump.
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So what's that next layer of identity and goals?
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Okay, so let's break it down into so that you can understand, people understand.
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Let's break it down to either there's people who tried to start their own business or have
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no people who have entrepreneurially started businesses and failed.
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And so I'm going to give you my 40 plus years experience in business.
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And I've been blessed to actually succeed and fail in multiple businesses.
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And so I'm speaking to you from that experience.
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Here's the thing is you get the mind of the Lord, okay, Lord, you have me to do this business.
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Okay, and I'm just using that example, then you have to have your heart.
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Your heart has to be in it, because there has to be passion, because passion is that
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hidden energy that actually causes you to succeed.
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But then you have to have practical goals of how am I going to have time, task and activity.
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But I'm going to give you the mystery.
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The mystery to success is you have to have the character, the value system and the integrity
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spiritually to be able to drink from the Lord's blessing cup.
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And we'll be right back.
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And now back to the show.
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I'm going to say it again.
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You have to have the behavior, the values and the character.
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So if you go to like Romans 12 verses 9 through 21, and I'm not going to read all of it, but
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it says, let love be without hypocrisy, abhor what is evil and cling to what is good.
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So and it goes down all the way down to 21 and it says, do not be overcome by evil, but
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overcome evil with good.
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So here's the key is if you want the Lord to bless your, I'm just using an example,
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your business or whatever your assignment is, then you have to choose to say, I'm not
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only going to have the mind and the heart and the attitude and the plan for God, but
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I'm actually going to stay within the behavioral boundaries of saying, you know what?
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I'm good at getting angry.
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I'd like to get that guy lied.
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They cheated.
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They stole from me.
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If you're going to go into business, all that's going to happen and whether the business is
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in the church or out of the church, there's lying, cheater, stealers everywhere.
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But what you're going to say is, okay, when it happens, how do I respond?
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And if you read Romans 12 and example nine through 21, then what happens is you're going
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to have to respond with forgiveness and then let the vengeance be the Lord's and then you
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have to move on.
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So you have to forgive.
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Since you've been with us, we had a situation with betrayal and a betrayal thing came and
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you watched it.
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You know, we could have gone into taking it into our own hands or we could forgive, keep
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our hearts right and move on.
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And you can see we have recovered from a pretty sizable.
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Pretty well.
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Yeah.
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I mean, but see, we followed these principles, but see, these principles were in my heart
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since the nineties.
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And so what happened is it's like, so, but listen, did I have thoughts when that was
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going down?
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Yeah, I had thoughts.
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I'm just a man.
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I'm just a person.
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Yeah.
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Well, I did.
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I get mad, angry.
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Yes.
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But the choice is here's what happens is if you think about it, okay, let's, let's just
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imagine right here on this table.
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Let's say I have seed, I have golden seed and each one of those golden seeds are going
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to be watered and, and they're going to grow.
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Okay.
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And so what happens is let's say there's a hundred golden seeds in front of you.
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Now if I choose to get angry and I want to be vengeful, I'm going to get them.
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I'm going to get, I'm going to call, you know, you know, I've got an attorney and you know,
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I can call my attorney and we're going to get after them.
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Okay.
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So what that is, if you do that, you've got the hundred seeds on here.
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That anger outburst of that Satan kind of, so this not, it's just an example.
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Satan comes as the accuser of the brethren says, all right, give me 25 of those seeds
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right now.
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Because what happens is the sin of that anger takes it.
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It doesn't hurt the person I'm upset with.
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What it does is it steals my blessing.
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So when it says in the Galatians of the fruit of the spirit, self-control, if I choose,
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listen, I feel the anger.
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I want to engage in the anger.
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I want to have, and you're trained here.
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I want to have that 18% moment.
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See that 18% moment is determined.
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If you don't have an 18% moment is because you choose self-control.
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And what happens in the spirit is you, you, you maintain the 25.
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And to be honest with you, my experience has been if the Lord, if I have a hundred golden
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seeds on the table, if I make a good choice, many times the Lord will just dump another
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50 golden seeds on me and just say, what the heck you did so good.
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Here's the blessing.
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I'm serious.
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It's just like, it just, I'm telling you, it works like this.
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And then, and, but you'll never see me.
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I won't defend myself.
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I'm not fighting against people.
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And listen, you work here.
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We get, I get accused of everything.
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I mean, I'm so blessed that some opposition in Israel, we made it to the front page, not
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the front page, but anyway, to the Jerusalem post my whole life.
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Listen, I'm a Jewish guy, a humanitarian aid.
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And I've always wanted to be in the Jerusalem post, but I finally made it.
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But how did I make it by some, you know, mean people in Israel that don't like it because
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we're outperforming them.
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And it says, Curt Landry ministries were right there in the first, we had the word count
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and blah, blah, blah.
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They actually accused us of everything.
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It was like my mother came from heaven and said, and look what Curtis is doing.
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They dispelled it out.
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Only it was hateful.
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I'm sitting over there.
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I read it.
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I'm there.
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I'm going, I looked at Christie and I said, we made it.
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We're in the Jerusalem post.
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It's a blessing.
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Yeah, it is a blessing.
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I'm serious.
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I'm so excited about it.
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But see, that's because if you'll do the 12, you know, this attitude, you build it over
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years.
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And what you realize is your attitude and your behavior when bad things happen are going
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to determine your future.
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All right.
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So let's say that people listening have downloaded their free guide, right?
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And they're working through it.
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And like, let's say it's a couple months from now, okay, or people last year in the 2023
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version of this download and they figure out identity, right?
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They figure out their goals from things that they want to accomplish.
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I mean, this might be too simple of a question, but I mean, it's something that I think about
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is that when you pray and accomplish things, how difficult is it sometimes to maybe slow
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down to where you can actually recognize that you've achieved the goal?
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Oh, man, you're asking the wrong guy for this.
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Yeah, no, this, yeah, you'd have to ask Christy or something.
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Yeah, I'm not good at this.
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Okay, so I actually, and this is hard.
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I'm not trying to separate myself from the people, but I know who I am, my identity.
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I'm a voice.
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My purpose is to be that voice for Israel, and I know it's going to cost me everything.
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Okay, so I made that decision like in 92.
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So what happens is what I do, I would do even if I didn't get paid to do it.
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I'm blessed.
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I live on a golf course and I have a lake in the back.
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And so my friends come and they say, well, do you play golf?
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I say, no.
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Do you have a boat?
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No.
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It's just I like the space.
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It's where the Lord put me and it's a good investment property and I love living there.
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But I don't do any of the things.
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What do I do?
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I sit in my office and I do teaching like this because that's what I love to do.
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First of all, I'm fairly good at teaching and preaching and ministering.
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I stink at golf and when I fish, I always like pull the, I jerk the line and I'm too
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slow.
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So it's like, why would I want to do something I'm bad at when I'm actually learning?
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I look at ministry and communication like a doctor.
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I'm in practice and I hope that the last message I preach will be my best.
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It's a constant growing.
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But the point is my passion is I love to do it.
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But the question is this, why do I love to do it?
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Because God has blessed me.
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Just people don't realize, but listen, there's no logical reason for me to be sitting here.
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I know God did it.
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So those who have been given much, the Lord requires much.
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So we just got done taking care of 500 orphans in Nairobi, Kenya.
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And so I did a little interview with them on the Zoom.
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And of course they always ask, well, why are you doing this?
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Well, that was me.
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I was an orphan.
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So a lot of people have an orphan spirit.
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What I mean by that is you may not be a physical orphan, but spiritually, you don't really
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feel connected with God.
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You don't feel blessed.
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You're in debt.
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You're battling.
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You're fighting.
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The reason I'm doing this podcast is if I can encourage you to take baby steps, crawl,
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walk, run into adopting biblical principles and values and govern your life by seeking
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first the kingdom of God and His righteousness and all other things come on you.
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If I can encourage you just today, take that one step.
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Don't worry about tomorrow.
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Don't do not, and this is what I spoke to the orphan children.
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You do not let your past dictate your future.
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So what?
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You're an orphan.
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I was an orphan.
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I'm not anymore.
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I'm a king's kid, and that's what I want people to do.
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I want their identity and their purpose to be at peace.
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I want to give away in the Spirit what the Lord has blessed me with because that's a
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natural cycle of the love.
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The love of the Father is this.
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I was reading a Reinhard Bonnke, tremendous evangelist in Africa and all over the world,
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but one of the things he said, and it was so wise, is this.
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He said, the Lord is not going to send you finance until you need it.
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But the thing is, biblically, you're not going to put a demand on the courts of heaven for
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finance until you start doing what God asks you to do.
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So there always has to be that faith step.
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So you take the step first, because a lot of times people wait and say, well, I'll pray,
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and then when I get this money, I'll do this.
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I've heard that a long time.
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It's never worked for me.
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What happens with me is I've always...
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It hasn't worked, has it?
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No, no, I just have to...
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You see what we do here.
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We just do it.
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And so, you have to take that step.
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So if you can get into a place where you know that God loves you, He's not trying to hurt
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you, every good and perfect gift comes from above, you're His child, you're His child
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because He chose you, not because how good you are.
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I'm not talking about having good Christian behavior because you're to be accepted.
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I'm talking about having good Christian behavior to protect your dreams, your goals, and your
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desires, because sin is death.
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And so, what happens is if every time you sin, then you're gonna have to fight and try
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to correct the situations that came because of the sin.
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So it's just better like what I talked about with the golden seeds.
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If you can control yourself and not do the stupid stuff, you have less cleanup.
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I guess more of a personal question, maybe...
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I don't know.
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I mean, like maybe it's not, or maybe you've never even thought about it, but can you think
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back to maybe like that first moment or that first part of your life when you're back in
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ministry, you've started House of David, right?
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And you started Curt Landry Ministries.
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And can you remember the first time maybe you got that call or that connection or...
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You got a thumbs up that it was successful, that a project for orphans in Israel was a
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success.
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Can you remember the story or the emotion of like from a personal identity to a goal
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setting to achieving?
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Can you remember that time?
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Well, oh yeah, it's very distinct.
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We were in our girl's safe house in Jerusalem.
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And so we were there with Christy and I, and we had some friends with us.
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And it was our first time in the girl's safe house.
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So this would have been probably maybe eight or 10 years ago.
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And one of the girls was there and she basically just said, and it was so real, but it was
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what was coming out of her.
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And I can still see her face right now.
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She said, if it wasn't for this Bridge to Independence program, I would have been dead.
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And she didn't have to say it.
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We knew that she would have taken her own life because what was happening, what was
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so horrible in her life.
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And the way the Bridge to Independence works is at 18, they come out of the El Adim, our
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children's program.
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And the reason we started years ago, Bridge to Independence, is because from 19 to 24,
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we realized that's when you need the most parenting and making those choices.
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And so what she was saying, I can still see her, just beautiful young lady, really tiny.
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I called her Mighty Mouse.
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She was a Mighty Mouse.
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She's very successful now.
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She's a businesswoman.
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She's killing it.
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But she was probably about 18 at this time, 19-ish, somewhere.
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She was just new into the program.
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And basically what she said, if you didn't provide this, I was going to take my life.
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I thought, wow, that's why we do this.
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That's different, isn't it?
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Yeah.
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Well, we had some of the elders from House of David with us.
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And literally, I can see some of their faces.
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And even one of the men that was with us is their family has foster kids and bring kids
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in their house, kind of like you and Morgan, that have that heart too.
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And they just broke when she said it.
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It was like, OK.
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And the thing that was great about it, no cameras.
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This is back in the day when they wouldn't allow us to go in the house and film like
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we did when you were there.
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But that kind of cemented it for me where I realized, OK, our ministry, our lives, and
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what we're doing is successful and it's making a difference.
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And it's not about numbers.
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It's not about how much money we raised.
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This one girl, to hear that, it was like it was worth it.
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I guess as we get close to wrapping up this episode, I guess really two questions.
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The second one's pretty easy to kind of transition us out.
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But the first one, just to kind of wrap up that emotion and that transition point in
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your personal life and within the ministry, kind of what people know, Curl Andrew Ministries
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now, did that moment, did that feeling, that emotion, that accomplishment in identity to
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goals to getting a successful thumbs up right on something that you went out to go do, how
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did that pivot and move your calling in the direction that it is now?
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I mean, being able to recognize that win and that goal.
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Well, one of the things I've observed is that you really go through four seasons.
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Maybe some people go through more.
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But my observation is there's four seasons that you go in your identity.
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And it really comes from a birthing to a service to a maturing and then an impartation.
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And so I'm in the impartation stage.
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That's why I'm sitting here.
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So when you're in the impartation stage and you're older, and I'm a baby boomer, so you're
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in that stage, what happens is we had a real encounter.
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We were in a very secret military base this last time we were in Israel during the war.
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And no civilians are supposed to be there.
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And they invited us in and we had 250 young soldiers that were there.
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We barbecued and fixed dinner for them.
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Anyway, we're all in the dining hall there.
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And as we're in the dining hall, I didn't say nothing.
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I was just there.
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They said, would you share with us?
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And so here's all these different Israeli men and women, some full time, some reserves.
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So if there's a reserve, like one of the guys they went dinner across from me was a doctor.
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Another one was a lawyer, but they're in the reserves.
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But they asked, see, this was the thing is they, since I'm in the fourth season, they
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sense it.
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It's kind of like what this podcast is.
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They said, would you share something with us?
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And this is what I shared.
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I said, you need to understand that the world hates you.
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We're Jews and that's never going to change.
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Anti-Semitism, we battle it, but it's never going away.
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When your God's chosen, the enemy hates you.
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And if I could impart that to the church, because Jesus told us that they were going
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to hate us, whether we're Jew or Gentile, because of Him.
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When you walk in the truth and you carry the Holy Spirit, the darkness hates you.
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So anyway, these soldiers are there and they're not saved.
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These are some of religious, some not.
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They're all over the place.
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But what I told them, I said, you need to realize that the world hates you.
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And you think, no, this is a great speech.
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And I said, and the reason the world hates you is because God loves you.
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And I said, you're like no other military or first responders.
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You're like nobody else in the world.
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You're not like the soldiers in the US or the armies in Europe.
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You are the IDF.
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You are the men and women of God.
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And what you've been called to do is you're the watchman on the wall.
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In Hebrew, you're the nozzanim.
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You are the watchmen who are actually performing, protecting, and building Bible prophecy according
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to the Bible.
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You're not only performing it and protecting it, but you're the Nehemiah.
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You're actually rebuilding the wall.
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And God has empowered you to do that.
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And don't listen to what, and I just told them, I said, don't listen to it.
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I went through different networks.
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It doesn't matter what the woke media says about you.
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I'm coming to tell you that there is a remnant and those who love the God of Abraham, Isaac,
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and Jacob, and those who have been grafted in through Jesus Christ, they love you.
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They support you.
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They pray for you, and they understand that your identity is that you are modern day warriors
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like King David protecting God's integrity because God is not a man.
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He should lie.
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They literally, Darrell, 250 of them stood to their feet and started screaming, just
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yeah, yeah, like that.
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And then they got done and they said, could we bless you?
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And then one of the ones, this like a rabbi guy, he comes up and he prays the Aaronic
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ben Ediction over me, you know, the Echacharimai, and he asked me, he says, do you know what
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that is?
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I said, yes, I know what that is.
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And it was so awesome to see that I spoke into, you're not, it's okay that you're hated.
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This is your job.
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You're God's chosen people.
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Now listen, this whole speech probably took 10 minutes and it changed their lives and
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they just loved it.
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And so that's what this season of time is for me.
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And if you're going to follow us on this podcast, I'm in that season of, I want to impart to
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you your identity because I know this, your identity changes over time with Christ.
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It always improves.
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But if you know who you are in him, it's Christ in you that's your hope and glory.
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If you know that you can do all things through him because he gives you strength.
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If you know that he gives you wealth because he's trying to establish his covenant promise
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with you and his desire is that you prosper and he adds no sorrow to it.
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That's your father.
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That's what I want to impart to them.
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Life is not easy.
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My life's not easy and it's not perfect, but it's a good life.
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Okay, man.
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So just touching real quick before we get out of here is that moment when everybody
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was going nuts and just cheering, you know, I mean like, what was that like for you?
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I mean, obviously you, you, you gave me a little bit of reaction of what other people
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had, but you know, like when you say that and, and you, you just break it down biblically
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on how, you know, the enemy is going to hate God's people, right?
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It's, it's pretty simple, you know, is it, um, was it, what did it feel like when you're
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in that moment of, of confirmation of preaching something that is very simple and it should
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be understood, but, but it's not.
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And, and, and having that moment with these, with these people that it was life-changing
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for them, that for, for them to hear the message broken down so simple, that gave them so much
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encouragement, what was that like for you personally?
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And like, what was the feeling in your body as it was going on, if you can remember?
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Well biblically, uh, I, I can't say where I was located, but there, um, I'll just say
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this, this area is where Joshua actually came in and took the promised land, the actual
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area.
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And I literally felt like Joshua rallying the troops saying, you know what, we can take
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this land.
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I mean, that's, that's how I felt.
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And of course I look over and you know, there's my wife and she knows where we're standing
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and the location and the time and the soldiers.
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And of course she's such a nana and a mama to them.
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You know, she's hugging all of them.
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But while I'm actually get up speaking, she is literally sitting over there, travailing,
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shaking, crying.
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One of the soldiers goes over and puts his arm around her and she's just broken because
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spiritually she goes, oh my gosh, we're preparing Israel to be able to take where we're at this
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land and these soldiers.
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And literally when we got done speaking to them, this was late at night, they literally
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went out on night patrols and do what they do.
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So I mean, it was like, it was surreal.
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I felt, it felt biblical.
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I mean, listen, it changed us.
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Our, you know, people have asked me and I'll switch gears about identity.
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Okay.
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You have one identity, but then you can have an experience.
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So what happened with Christie and I, and I don't recommend, we're called to do this,
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but when we went down to the South and we went to the different kibbutzins that have
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been attacked and ravaged, it changed us.
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You can't unsee it.
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You can't unsmell it.
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You can't hear it.
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You can't unfeel it.
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But you asked the Lord, why?
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I said, Lord, why did you bring us down here to see this?
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And the Lord said, you can't fight what you can't see.
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You need to see.
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And so the scripture when John 10, 10, which I've quoted for years, and it says, and Jesus
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came to bring life, life more abundantly, but Satan has come to kill, steal and destroy.
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That's that my identity with what Satan does to kill, steal and destroy.
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I never understood it until I was at kibbutzgavar and I was standing in the middle of probably
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the most monstrous human behavior on earth and interviewing people who survived it.
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But you can't fight the enemy unless you know the enemy.
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And you can't fight the enemy unless you know who you are.
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See, the thing is, to the listeners, you're going to have some wars, nothing like that,
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hopefully, but you're going to have to face some things.
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And what happens is you need to realize that mightier the he that's in you.
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He called you.
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He knew this war was coming on October 7th.
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He knows what you're facing, let's say on May the 21st, whatever.
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He knows that.
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And here's the key is if he knows the storms are coming and if you'll take the simple instruction
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and build your house, your spiritual life upon the rock and not the sand, when the storm
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comes, he knows you may suffer some damage, but your house will still be standing and
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you'll finish and you'll finish well.
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Well if you made it to the deep end of this episode, we sure really appreciate you sticking
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with us.
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Again, you can get your free download by going to curtlandry.com forward slash goals 2024.
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Also if you have questions, you want to put a statement in or you just want to say, hey,
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you can send us an email at podcast at curtlandry.com.
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Again, that's podcast at curtlandry.com.
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Every single link, everything that we've talked about, of course, we'll link it in the description
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of this episode.
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Well, Rabbi, it was a pleasure.
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Next time we come back out, we're talking about dreams and about achieving your goals.
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But until then, it was fun and I hope you have a good one.
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All right.
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Thanks for watching.