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Wait?! The DoD Was Behind This WHOLE Thing?? — Whistleblower Interview · Man in America Podcast

• 0:02
  Seth Holehouse: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host Seth Holehouse. So today I'll be talking with Doctor. Andrew Huff who is a former VP from EcoHealth Alliance, the company at the center of the development of SARS CoV two, but he since has left and is now a whistleblower that's exposing the corruption that's happening within our own government and the ties to the Chinese Communist Party. But before we get started, folks, make sure you're following me on social media at Man in America on most places and on Twitter it's at Man in America US.
• 0:35
  Also, every show that I do, I do as well as a podcast and so if you wanna find me on the podcast apps, just search for Man in America on your favorite app, whether it's Spotify, iHeart, etc. And you'll find the podcast. Alright folks, let's go ahead and dive right into this interview. Alright, Andrew, thank you so much for joining me today. It's a pleasure to have you on.
• 0:56
  Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.
• 0:58
  Seth Holehouse: So I follow you on Twitter and I've watched a handful of your shows and I like how you're pushing the narrative and you're not just going along with what everyone thinks you should be talking about. You're the one's questioning things and you're pressing buttons and you're kind of poking at things. Think they're really important issues. And there's a few recent tweets that of yours I really want to bring up and talk about here because I think you're doing a great job of challenging the narrative. So not pushing the narrative, challenging the narrative.
• 1:26
  So this one right here, this is recent. You said Biden's nothingburger classified doc story is to serve as a distraction from wide scale mRNA vaccine injuries and taxpayer fraud. The massive global corporate expansion of mRNA manufacturing and clinical testing, DoD fraud, and continued consolidation of global food monocultures. And now I'm going to jump right into an article that you also share because this really helps us set up the discussion that I want to have today with you. This is an article from the Brownstone Institute, which came out in earlier this month.
• 2:04
  Did national security imperatives compromise COVID-nineteen vaccine safety? So I'll read a few highlighted parts here. So it starts with saying, the US Department of Defense has had a dominant role in the response to the SARS CoV-two virus and indeed the development and distribution of the COVID-nineteen vaccines, a fact hidden from the general public. In those processes, many standard steps and procedures otherwise required for pharmaceutical products were omitted or circumvented. It continues here it says the development testing and drug regulatory approval of these novel COVID-nineteen gene based vaccines using messenger ribonucleic acid mRNA technology was said to have been done in less than a year, whereas development and approval of conventional vaccines normally takes about ten years.
• 2:56
  And there's one more paragraph I want to highlight here, which I think this is the big one. So a national security operation. Contrary to popular belief that pharmaceutical companies drove programs, The US's FDA's website reveals that the United States Department of Defense has been in full control of COVID vaccine development program since its beginning. The DoD has been responsible for development, manufacturing, clinical trials, quality assurance, distribution, and administration since that time. The major pharmaceutical companies have been involved as project coordination teams effectively performing as subcontractors to the DoD.
• 3:38
  Now, this is a really, really important discussion because right now what we're seeing, it seems like every time I go on the Twitter, I'm seeing a new celebrity that's having vaccine side effects. I'm seeing three new articles of teens or young adults dying while playing sports. And I'm seeing new statistics coming out. So this is like the dam is really bursting with the information coming vaccine, but everyone's saying, oh, look at Pfizer, they want to make money with this. But this article and what you're talking about and challenging that narrative is that this goes straight back to the Department of Defense.
• 4:13
  So I hand this over to you now.
• 4:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, well, absolutely. Everyone needs to remember this. The pharmaceutical companies involved in the manufacturing and sale and marketing of mRNA would not be involved with this unless they one had immunity and two, somebody wanted the product. And the organization that wanted the product is the US government, primarily oversaw by the Department of Defense and other partner agencies which are intricately involved in healthcare. So the Department of Defense in terms of chemical warfare and biowarfare works very closely with health and human services and different sub agencies across the government.
• 4:50
  Seth Holehouse: And so when did this get started? Because I'll pull up one more tweet here that you put out recently and this will offend some people and make some people happy at this point. It doesn't really matter we to look at this as the facts. Okay. So you put this out a couple days ago, you're saying, I want to point out that this mass poisoning was due to Operation Warp Speed brought to you by the Trump administration, Doctor.
• 5:12
  Fauci, DOD, IC and the uniparty controlled government. So what happened under Warp speed? Like, you know, what caused you to write that particular tweet?
• 5:27
  Speaker 2: Well, that particular tweet actually stems on my experience of working in national security at the highest level since 2010. And I went into it with really rosy glasses thinking that I was going to have a big impact and change on the national security state. And the way that these government meetings are conducted at a high level, it's typically US government scientists or academics who are trusted, state government officials, leaders from corporate America, and then the bureaucrats from the different government agencies all sitting at the table. And it's often the scientists role to challenge the status quo and question the national security decisions that were being made. Now, to put this in the context of this specific national security problem, bioterrorism, biosecurity, pandemic response, is that the scientists and critics that were being skeptical of ideas that were being put forward as far back as 2010 were being silenced.
• 6:27
  And the government bureaucrats and technocrats that we're working with did not want to act or do any work to actually improve national security. And I'm talking really here at 20,000 foot level, but that's on purpose because that then permeates that mindset that in the decisions and how they make policies and how they debate things, you can see how that permeates and then fails in this COVID-nineteen debacle. And the story gets more interesting, which I discussed in the book because the development of SARS CoV-two, the agent and the development of the mRNA platform had to happen together because that is what the science would actually require in the political, not the political strategy, but the military defense strategy required to be successful. So it's almost like this was a predetermined fate. The reason why all these different government agencies are working so closely together is because they still have to have the Department of Defense still has to have regulatory approval from health and human services for things like institutional review boards on new medical or experimental treatments.
• 7:33
  But when this is framed solely as a national security problem and not a public health problem and it's being pushed by the Department of Defense, the Department of Defense can say this is a national emergency, declare a national security and then use things like the Defense Production Act to put things into play. So really what we're seeing here with that tweet that I put out and tying this all back together is that this has been the uniparty in action ever since 09/11. So you have the neocons under the Bush administration. You have the the Obama administration then taking over the the intelligence community. And the the DC Swamp, so to speak, just stays there and it permeates.
• 8:14
  And they don't wanna work and they wanna do the easiest things and they waste their taxpayer money and all these different organizations are just basically sitting on their hands, spending their money, trying to do the least amount of work possible, trying to do the fastest things possible. And that's why something like operational warp speed is terrible because it actually undermines a lot of the checks and balances that exist within our federal system, well, supposed to be within our republic.
• 8:39
  Seth Holehouse: Which am I correct in saying that normally a vaccine being put out to market is about a ten year process, right? And so this was, it was, I guess warp speeded up, right, to be about under under a year, right? And now for a quick word from our sponsor. Folks, the world is going through a process that experts are calling dedollarization, and China and Russia are leading the charge. So what's this mean?
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• 11:27
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• 11:31
  Speaker 2: Well, there's two different so the timelines are not exactly comparable for one reason. So mRNA technology can be synthesized very quickly and traditional egg based vaccines take about nine months to manufacture. That aside though, the clinical regulatory process was completely violated. Everything that I looked at going back from the toxicology studies when they were doing the tox testing to see what could cause harm in some with some of the vaccine ingredients. That information was redacted at least in the Pfizer reports.
• 12:03
  Then to the lack of what I would call rigorous controlled trials on the vaccine quote unquote itself. And then there was fraud and abuse taking place on those clinical trials. So you have whistleblowers like Brooke Jackson who was a party of the Pfizer trial saying like, hey, there was fraud going on here, they weren't recording injuries. But all of this is one big snowball of government debacle of people not wanting to do the right thing or being scared to do the right thing, not wanting to do extra work and then having extreme pressure to push through these what would be scientific norms or best practices to bring a product to market.
• 12:48
  Seth Holehouse: And what's incredible about this entire thing is that there's this narrative of, you know, calling people the fascists. Right? I think that, you know, Trump was labeled a fascist. A lot of the MAGA people were labeled as fascists. And if you look at you look back at fascism, Mussolini, it's really the merger of, you know, government with the private, you know, business and government seizing control and using those to achieve its political goals.
• 13:13
  And I think that's one of the biggest realizations I've had about this, especially when you look at the Twitter files, right, and you look at the information that's come out about Facebook. And we're now seeing that, oh, it wasn't, it wasn't like Pfizer was, know, calling up Jack Dorsey and saying, look, you know, you're affecting our stock price, you got to silence these people. It was our own government that was working to control and to sit and to silence people, right? That that you talk about that is the most direct violation of the First Amendment is the government itself actually preventing people from having free speech. And so we look at that and they take a step back and you realize as that Browning, the Brownstone Institute article illustrated that it was actually the DOD and DARPA that were behind the development of the vaccine, and that the big corporations like Pfizer and Moderna were just basically subcontractors.
• 14:09
  I mean, this to me, this paints a picture of a very corrupt government that knowingly sped up at a very risky rate, the development of an experimental injection, and then rolled that out and mandated it across almost every government controlled thing they could, they mandated it, right where they could. And then censored people from talking about the fact that this experimental injection was killing people and injuring them for life, etc. I mean, who's am I correct in saying that? That this is just is it really just a giant government conspiracy to harm the populace? I mean, do you make sense of this?
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: That's a great question. So I've with other legal experts that are constitutional lawyers that have asked that very question, and I'm not sure that I would believe that the government is trying to kill everyone. Now I do understand how the Department of Defense works as a machine from serving the military and working with them closely for many years. It's like this in my opinion. So you have big projects like the F 35, the Bradley fighting vehicle, which they made a movie about because it was such a boondoggle.
• 15:26
  You know, billions of dollars spent on these platforms trying to to create new weapons. In terms of mRNA, the Department of Defense has had a very strong interest to to bring mRNA as a platform to market to counter the pandemic threat and bioterrorism and biowarfare. They need a quick synthetic agent or I should say countermeasure that they can scale rapidly and then deploy to the military and the civilian population for doomsday. The problem is that they were in my opinion, they wanted this technology so badly that they're willing to sacrifice anything, any amount of safety or regulatory oversight to make it happen. I mean, wanted the product, they wanted the countermeasure, they want to have this in defense lingo or national security lingo, they call this a capability.
• 16:18
  They want to have that capability. And I think what's going to be interesting now is that the Department of Defense has been by law mandated to not give this, the mRNA jabs to soldiers anymore, airmen's, Marines, etcetera. Well, okay, so that's an interesting challenge. Now, if the JABS can never come off full emergency use authorization, what happens with these things? So we just spent billions of dollars, trillions, you could argue getting this product outstanding, these companies have creating a market for this whole thing.
• 16:52
  And at the end, we have an unsafe product that doesn't work. I mean, that's just the reality of it.
• 16:59
  Seth Holehouse: Now, you know, one thing that, you you highlight and I'll pull up in our tweet about this is the involvement of the CCP. And this is something I've talked to a lot of different China experts and even in a conversation I had recently with Naomi Wolf, you know, we're talking about the, the, what could be the origins of what we're seeing, because when you look at, when you look at the effects of the vaccine, the spike protein, the effects on reproductive system, everything else like that, it's it's hard to look at that and not have the thought of like, was this intentional? Right? Was this just, you know, this this, you know, altruistic effort to give people something that's going to help them, you know, become better? Or is there something more devious about this?
• 17:41
  Right? And but if you look at the CCP, so I'll bring up this tweet that you had made recently, where you said the deep state and uni party are heavily compromised by the Chinese. That includes DOD and intelligence community leaders. So in your experience, what what's behind that? How involved do you think the CCP has been in the development of the in the rollout of the vaccine?
• 18:10
  And do you think that that their malicious intent is being orchestrated and and kind of you you're using our own agencies against us?
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Well, absolutely, from the sense that you can't blame the Chinese for trying. We would attempt to do the same types of nefarious activities to them. That is the reality of the international defense and spy world. You know, you try to do tricky, dirty things to your enemy. It's quite clear though, if you look at the way that senior leaders in the Department of Defense, and I'm talking generals here, partnered and fond over the Chinese military and how our relationship with the Chinese as a country has grown over the years, where we have this codependence with the Chinese, where we're buying their crap that they're manufacturing and shipping overseas to us at a low price because they're playing with the labor market on their side.
• 19:07
  The strategy had been, I think, and I think this is a good way to frame it is that, you know, by being so financially tied to the Chinese, it would prevent war between our two countries. I think that was the strategy that sort of came out of the the Clinton years. And what the natural conclusion is, though, the the Chinese are not being honest brokers in this system and they are financially compromising people. And if you look at the investments coming out of China into American corporations, American technology, whether they're stealing it or investing in it to acquire it, It's a troubling pattern and it's also happening in what I would call national security products and defense products. I mean, it's their goal to get their technology and have backdoors into everything that America has.
• 19:54
  Because if if World War three breaks out, they wanna be able to kill the lights and put us out quickly. I mean, that's that's their strategic goal. And if you look at the Biden administration specifically, a number of their officials that who've been appointed to various offices throughout the government, they have strong links to Chinese think tanks and money that's been brought into the Beltway to fund these research centers where these people in our government work. I don't know how else to say that whether or not like to describe whether or not these people will be officially compromised, but what else is it? And why hasn't the FBI and the intelligence community department of Homeland Security, the people who work on national security, the office for personal management not stood up and said no to this.
• 20:38
  No one from congress is calling these people into the hill to testify and ask questions about this. And look, there's a number of members of congress like Eric Swalwell who's compromised by the Chinese. I mean, there's a number of individuals and it's a big problem unless people start making a stink out of it, it's going to continue and it's only going to further jeopardize their national security. And now in terms of the mRNA jabs, well, look at this way. So say that The United States brings a pretend that we're the Chinese for a second.
• 21:05
  The United States brings a new dangerous product onto the market. The Chinese know that this mRNA technology has issues, that's why they're not pushing on their own population. Well, why not just encourage a bad behavior on the other side? And this is one of the strategic tactics of the Chinese. They're actually pushing drugs manufactured fentanyl and other harmful substances through cartels back in The United States.
• 21:27
  This has been documented. And the reason why they're doing is it compromises our youth and human behavior and the will to work and engage in good societal behaviors, at least to some extent, right? I mean, that's a broad sweeping generalization, but this is, these are things that they're actually doing.
• 21:45
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah, it's really goes back to their, it's unrestricted warfare. And that's something that I think is really important to understand that, you know, I've had on General Robert Spaulding before talking about this, and other experts on really war military and especially China. And it's really looking at it and understanding that this is a multi pronged war. This is an attack, you know, kind like, you know, when Trump was talking about, you know, during the beginning of the pandemic, how this was an act of war from China, you know, with the release of this. Now, I want to just take a quick second and talk about your recent book because this obviously fits into what's happening here.
• 22:21
  So I'll pull this up. So you recently published The Truth About Wuhan, How I Uncovered the Biggest Lie in History, which is available at, you know, kind of select retailers that you know, Amazon if you want to do Amazon, if not, then there's other places. But so tell us a little about what this book is about.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Well, this book was about me being censored heavily by the US government and I had to figure a way to get the story out. So I served as a Vice President at EcoHealth Alliance. I was hired as a senior scientist and I had a front row seat for the gain of function work, the sample collection, and all the fraud that took place at EcoHealth Alliance. And I actually ended up leaving EcoHealth Alliance in 2016. I learned about the pandemic in December of twenty nineteen, that's before most Americans know about it.
• 23:07
  And then I spent a year releasing information about my time and what I knew about this biomedical industrial complex and EcoHealth Alliance's role in creating SARS CoV-two to big name journalists. And finally, what happens in the fall of twenty twenty one, the US government comes after me directly, starts breaking into my house, tases my dogs, all sorts of crazy stuff, hacking my devices every two weeks, and really they're trying to censor me. So to answer your question, the reason why I wrote this book was I needed something that couldn't be censored and they're still trying to censor it. They're breaking down the links on web platforms so it doesn't refer for, you know, they've taken it down off the number one list. But that was it.
• 23:53
  If I put this into print and I started pushing it, I knew that I'd break the censoring machine and I did, I think I've been effective at that.
• 23:59
  Seth Holehouse: Well, I'd say if you're someone that has broken the censoring machine, that's a good thing. And also that it shows that you're really over the target.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, completely. And you know, there's two big lies actually in the book, which I like to talk about. So what most people don't realize and this is where our conversation actually starts most of this development of SARS CoV-two and the countermeasure was a Department of Defense operation partnered with the intelligence community. And I actually saw that unfolding while I worked at EcoHealth Alliance and I hadn't quite put it all together. My former boss, Doctor.
• 24:31
  Peter Dasek actually told me that he was, well, he asked me first whether or not we should work with the CIA in late twenty fifteen. And then he confirmed it in 2016. I thought it was actually sort of cool. I told him there could be money in it. And then reflecting, you know, in 2019 that everything had happened, I'm like, Oh crap.
• 24:48
  I'm like, it was this realization for me, like I was a part of this and this is exactly what was going on. I'm like, Oh, this was one giant Department of Defense operation to manufacture mRNA and they screwed it up along the process with the Chinese. I don't think the Chinese intentionally released it. But I think what happens is after the lab leak is identified in August or September of twenty nineteen, is that a bunch of government opportunist technocrats, bureaucrats at least within The United States who do not like President Trump, use it as a vehicle to destroy him. I do believe that to be accurate.
• 25:21
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah, and that's actually, that leads into the quote, another question I had is, you know, now that, okay, so we look at the timelines, you know, Elon Musk, you know, acquires Twitter. They lift the restrictions about talking about the vaccine injuries, you know, COVID, etc. And now, like I said before, I go to Twitter, it seems like half of the feed is just talking about the vaccine and you regularly see things like myocarditis or stroke or died suddenly trending on Twitter. And we also now have, you know, mainstream media like the BBC openly talking about this. So I think that we're getting past that point where they can contain all this information.
• 26:03
  And if you look at the just these studies of you know, look at Ed Dowd's work for instance, it's just going to continue. We're not going to see that like all of a sudden this this all stops and everyone's back to healthy. It seems like it's degenerative and it'll get worse and worse as time goes along, which means they're gonna they're not gonna be able to control the narrative as well. And so do you think that that's also maybe part of their plan? I mean, you think that they're setting the stage to make the hope?
• 26:30
  Have the mass public say, wow, there's this major problem with the vaccine. They're gonna admit it, but then circle back and actually try to pin it on Trump and Operation Warp Speed?
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: I think that's a possible scenario. I don't think it'll be completely tied back to Operation Warp Speed. I think any reasonable person and if people like me are allowed to have a voice, can say, well, operational warp speed was a product of the Department of Defense. And the question is, if Congress holds the proper investigations, who within the Department of Defense is pushing this? And why were they pushing?
• 27:05
  Instead of this could have came from different routes within the government, for example, this could have came through health and human services, Doctor. Anthony Fauci at night, and that's what they made it look like. And people like me and a few others have been saying, and I've been saying this over and over again, Doctor. Anthony Fauci is certainly a terrible person. He's a traitor.
• 27:23
  He deserves to be may have a trial and probably and I hope probably one of the more extreme views, but if he's found guilty, be executed for all the death that he's caused. On the other hand, he didn't orchestrate this entire thing. And I believe he was a front man for the Department of Defense and the intelligence community and that's finally coming to the surface and the evidence of that is coming to the surface. So the question is who is really pulling the strings here to get Doctor. Anthony Fauci out to dance?
• 27:47
  The reason why I don't think Congress has been going harder after Doctor. Anthony Fauci or my former boss, Doctor. Peter Gask is, if they start applying the pressure to them, they're probably pretty worried of what they're going to say. I I think the the number one fear for for the government actually, the the the shadowy deal brokers, in Congress and the elected officials are, well, okay. If we start to go after doctor Anthony Fauci, what's he gonna say?
• 28:12
  And what's doctor Daseck gonna say or doctor Ralph Barack? I mean, if I know what the things that I can say to really blow things out of the water and I was not in their position. So I can only imagine what kind of nasty things that they know. And what's starting to happen slowly and the pace is increasing is that they're starting to turn on each other. And so the people from the different organizations due to lawsuits that we've brought or political pressure, they're all starting to turn on each other.
• 28:43
  The infighting has been great to watch. And it was really bad when my book came out and it seems to be increasing, but now everyone's distancing themselves with each other that was involved with this. And they've all lawyered up and the smart ones at least have finally shut up and stopped tweeting and doing other things because that's probably what their lawyer has been telling them to do. But the day of reckoning is coming and I don't think this all get pinned to Trump. The question I get all the time is like, well, did Donald Trump know about this?
• 29:11
  Did he know his intention or did he was he in on this? I'm like, how do I know? I mean, you would have to ask Donald Trump and get him under oath and figure out what his advisor was were telling him and who was lying to him, but I don't have any clue. I mean, I'm not a mind reader. But everyone wants to know.
• 29:27
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. It's the big question. And you had Candace Owens ask about it, but that didn't really get very far in that conversation. And, you know, I hope that, I mean, look, I hope that he comes out and talks about it. I hope he comes out and says, look, I made a mistake, I was lied to.
• 29:41
  And take some responsibility because the window of opportunity to still come out and say that it's safe and effective, I think it shut already quite some time ago. So basically, just I want to see if I understand correctly in how you framed it that the it's if all this goes back to our own government with the DOD, no wonder we're not going to have our own government pushing to investigate it very heavily because it's going to point back to themselves. So is that am I correct in understanding that?
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely. So there's no incentive for anyone in the government to actually properly investigate this. And that's why we're bringing lawsuits wherever we can. I don't see the I've actually had Republican members or people represent Republicans in the Senate. Did investigate the information that I have for them.
• 30:33
  I mean, I had actually been feeding probably the most valuable nuggets of this this story to the House Intelligence Committee and also the Senate Committee on Investigations. And I never really received any credit for it. Nobody really wanted to push my insights or the things that I was bringing up. And to this day, nobody has called me a liar.
• 30:54
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah, exactly. Well, so I know you've got something, an immediate thing after our interview today. So I want to go and wrap up, but I just want to thank you for what you're doing and for being a voice, stepping out, especially with your background. I'm sure that after you came forward from EcoHealth Alliance and became a whistleblower, you know, that things didn't get easier in your life. But I want to encourage folks to check out your book, but also to follow you on Twitter.
• 31:19
  So on Twitter, can find you at AGHuff. And then also the book The Truth About Wuhan, which I would recommend for folks. So any final closing thoughts for us?
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Yes, wrote that book at a level where a high school student could understand it because technocrats and the SIOP was trying to get people into this high detailed discussion on virology, and that's not this book. I wrote this so the everyday person could understand it. So buy the book for a family or friend, especially if they are still a denier and they haven't woken up at this point. It's soft, it's apolitical and it should hopefully show them the terrible situation that we're in and how we got here.
• 31:59
  Seth Holehouse: Great. All right. Well, Andrew, thank you so much for coming on. It's a pleasure to have you and we'll be in touch in the future.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Thank you. This is great.