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_No one is humiliating Donald Trump except for Donald Trump__ Nicolle on Wall Street mocking Trump(MP3_160K) · NO FILTER

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  Speaker 1: Before the break, we were talking about the downside of
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  Speaker 1: worrying about what it might do to Trump's ego to
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  Speaker 1: know that there is something called a taco trade. Trump
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  Speaker 1: always chickens out. It is the story of his entire
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  Speaker 1: political rise.
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  Speaker 2: I think that the risk that we were talking about
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  Speaker 2: before the break, which is, is there a danger in
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  Speaker 2: trying to go or intentionally or unintentionally goading Trump Trump,
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  Speaker 2: that's a real risk, and we know that because of
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  Speaker 2: his political career. So in twenty eleven, Barack Obama gives
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  Speaker 2: this brilliant roast of Donald Trump at the White House
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  Speaker 2: correspondence dinner after Trump had been going after him with
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  Speaker 2: the Birther movement and so forth, and Barack Obama, in
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  Speaker 2: his cool way, just evuscerates him. And you see Donald
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  Speaker 2: Trump in the moment boiling over, and the reporting on
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  Speaker 2: it is that that was a really pivotal moment that
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  Speaker 2: galvanized him then to run for president. So he detests
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  Speaker 2: He does detest being mocked, though he certainly likes mocking
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  Speaker 2: other people, So that risk is real. I think the
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  Speaker 2: fact that we are even having this conversation points to
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  Speaker 2: the bizarrow world that we're in in Trump too and
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  Speaker 2: in Trump one, but particularly in Trump too, where you know,
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  Speaker 2: we're thinking about you know what if we make fun
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  Speaker 2: of Trump and then he'll respond in this way, and
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  Speaker 2: the chaos that will be unleashed could be really damaging
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  Speaker 2: for America's standing in the world, in America, the American economy.
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  Speaker 2: You know, the fact that we're having that conversation points
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  Speaker 2: to this weird environment in which, you know, some people
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  Speaker 2: seem to be treating Trump like a senile uncle who
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  Speaker 2: needs to be appeased, and it's unders you know, in
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  Speaker 2: the media, that's certainly not our job. Our job is
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  Speaker 2: to tell the truth as we see it. You see
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  Speaker 2: in Congress and the people around Trump, people continuing to
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  Speaker 2: try to placate him, trying to play to his worst instincts,
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  Speaker 2: to all of his instincts in a way that's counterproductive,
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  Speaker 2: I think. And the question is when they will grow
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  Speaker 2: as fine in Congress, when some people might stand up
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  Speaker 2: to him. What would be the set of events that
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  Speaker 2: would trigger Congress behaving like grown ups and not trying
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  Speaker 2: to just pledge filty to this president.
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  Speaker 1: Charlie, do you on your Bingo card even even play
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  Speaker 1: that game anymore? I mean, is there a point where
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  Speaker 1: they respond to their constituents instead of Donald Trump's whims.
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  Speaker 3: Not in the foreseeable future, because I mean, you and
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  Speaker 3: I have been talking about this for ten years right now,
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  Speaker 3: They've how many times have they had opportunities to do that?
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  Speaker 3: The political costs are simply too high for them. And frankly, look,
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  Speaker 3: waiting around for Republicans to show any sort of independence,
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  Speaker 3: I think is a fool's error. Now on the edges,
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  Speaker 3: you know, perhaps they will push back, you know, here
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  Speaker 3: or there, But the whole issue of tariffs has been
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  Speaker 3: so illustrative because it will have such a tremendous impact
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  Speaker 3: on the economy, on their own constituents. They have the
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  Speaker 3: inherent power to block the teriffs. They are the Article
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  Speaker 3: one body in the Constitution, and yet they have surrendered.
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  Speaker 3: They have ceased functioning as a legislative body in many respects.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, going back to your question about the
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  Speaker 3: dangers of humiliating Donald Trump, you know how I feel
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  Speaker 3: about this. I mean, I wish, you know, we could
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  Speaker 3: humiliate him on a daily basis. I wish that we
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  Speaker 3: could mock him. But Charlot's absolutely right. This is this
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  Speaker 3: is the bizarre world that we're living in where everybody
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  Speaker 3: is walking around on eggshells, you know, afraid to anger,
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  Speaker 3: or the senile uncle who has incredibly thin skin. And
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  Speaker 3: the thing about Donald Trump is he is, of course
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  Speaker 3: a complete narcissist, but he is he has a very
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  Speaker 3: very thin skin, and he is he's dangerous because he
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  Speaker 3: has the power and he has no restraint. And I
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  Speaker 3: think that's just something that kind of the reality that
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  Speaker 3: we have to deal with now. There are some people
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  Speaker 3: who say that, you know that that's a council of defeatism,
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  Speaker 3: that you know, resistance is futile, that we can't do
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  Speaker 3: anything about it. But it is the reality that we're
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  Speaker 3: living in right now. And I think that to the
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  Speaker 3: extent that we can point out the absurdity of Donald Trump,
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  Speaker 3: the fact that we can in fact show that the
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  Speaker 3: emperor does have no clothes, and by the way, there's
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  Speaker 3: always a value to pointing out that the emperor is
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  Speaker 3: in fact buck naked when it is Donald Trump, I
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  Speaker 3: think we ought to take that risk.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Robert, I guess I would pushed back a little
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  Speaker 1: bit on the premise that anyone humiliated Donald Trump other
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  Speaker 1: than Donald Trump. I mean, I mean the truth of
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  Speaker 1: the number of times that he blinked is a data
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  Speaker 1: point that exists in public. No investigative journalists dug up
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  Speaker 1: the number of times Trump balked because of the poor
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  Speaker 1: reception to his tariffs, and they were announced, they were paused,
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  Speaker 1: they were raised, they were dropped, they were put back in,
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  Speaker 1: they were pulled off. One hundred deals and one hundred
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  Speaker 1: days there were none. Now there's a framework for one
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  Speaker 1: with the UK and the beginning of talks in Switzerland
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  Speaker 1: with China. No framework, no deal. So that's and I
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  Speaker 1: am no economist, but I could read a newspaper. So
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  Speaker 1: no one's humiliating Donald Trump except Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 4: Look, the reason the taco trade joke, which is kind
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  Speaker 4: of a dumb joke, stuck, is because it has this
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  Speaker 4: huge element of truth in it. And yes, a lot
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  Speaker 4: of times in the last twelve or eighteen hours since
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  Speaker 4: that conversation in the White House, people have either written
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  Speaker 4: me or mentioned me on social media saying this guy's
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  Speaker 4: dumb joke is going to cause a recession. And I
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  Speaker 4: don't like that at all. I meant to make a joke,
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  Speaker 4: not cause a recession. But there is a serious question
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  Speaker 4: here about as Charlotte and Charlie have just argued, so, well,
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  Speaker 4: there's a serious question about a world in which you're
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  Speaker 4: not allowed to make fun of the president. He's the president.
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  Speaker 4: I am an inky fingered hack making a dumb joke.
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  Speaker 4: I'm the one who's supposed to behave carefully around the
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  Speaker 4: president of the United States. How did we get here?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, this situation bizarre doesn't even begin to cover
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  Speaker 4: it as far as I'm concerned.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and Robert argue, if we enter into recession, it
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  Speaker 1: will have nothing to do with you. It will be
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  Speaker 1: done polus. He's the tippers start of recession. And if
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  Speaker 1: you look at how you know, I mean, look, the
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  Speaker 1: study of a body of fiction around dysfunctional families is
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  Speaker 1: the same story all the time. And otherwise normal body
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  Speaker 1: bends and collapses around the mentally ill or addicted or
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  Speaker 1: most sick member of the family. A country is the same.
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  Speaker 1: So we had the Republican party collapse onto itself around
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  Speaker 1: the dysfunctional leader, and then you had all of the
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  Speaker 1: you know, sort of partisan actress collapse. And now you're
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  Speaker 1: seeing Trump collapse the economy around his dysfunction.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's not altogether unlike the inner circle of
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  Speaker 4: Biden collapsing around him. He was frail, He was really
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  Speaker 4: unqualified to be president. They knew it, and they collapsed
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  Speaker 4: around him, and that was no good. And similarly, treating
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  Speaker 4: the current president with kid clubs by his advisors or
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  Speaker 4: by the press, or by anybody else is a bad idea.
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  Speaker 4: It was a bad idea with a Democrat. It's a
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  Speaker 4: bad idea with a Republican. We shouldn't do it.