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- 0:04It's. All going to zero against
- 0:06Bitcoin. It's going on forever.
- 0:16You're against Bitcoin. You're against freedom.
- 0:20Yeah. Welcome to another episode of
- 0:22Simply Bitcoin Live. We're the number one source for
- 0:24the peaceful Bitcoin revolution. Code breaking news culture,
- 0:27Matic warfare. We will be your guide through
- 0:29the separation of money and state today.
- 0:32I mean, this week the Contillion Air Conference is happening in
- 0:37Davos. So I'm sure there's going to be
- 0:39a lot of topics that we're going to cover, but I'm going to give
- 0:43you a different take, and this relates to today's title of the
- 0:47video, Wall Street is funding Bitcoin development, Bitcoin
- 0:53core developers, you heard that right.
- 0:56And we have two ETFs, specifically VANEK with the
- 1:02ticker Huddle and Bitwise that are donating part of their
- 1:05profits. And it's not like a tiny part.
- 1:08It's 5 to 10% of their profits to helping the Bitcoin
- 1:12ecosystem, helping the Bitcoin community.
- 1:15And then this brings me back to a tweet that I've said many,
- 1:20many times and I've kind of interchanged words in it, right.
- 1:26But the tweet goes something like this.
- 1:27It says Wall Street thinks it will change Bitcoin, but it will
- 1:30be Bitcoin that will change Wall Street.
- 1:32You can interchange that. You could put government in
- 1:34there. It says government thinks it
- 1:36will change Bitcoin, but it will be Bitcoin that will change Wall
- 1:39Street. And this tweet was an
- 1:41inspiration from one of Max Kaiser's very famous sayings.
- 1:45You don't change Bitcoin, Bitcoin changes you.
- 1:48So you're thinking about these, you know, you're thinking about
- 1:51Wall Street, you're thinking about these NGOs, these giant
- 1:54organizations, right? And you would be thinking, wow,
- 1:57like these people are like, genuinely like evil.
- 2:00Like they they wanna control everybody.
- 2:03And maybe some individuals are Klaus Schwab.
- 2:05But like, you know, I, I I just think that the majority of of
- 2:09these people that are going to these events and you know, are
- 2:11part of these, you know, organizations.
- 2:14I just think that they want to pay their mortgage and feed
- 2:16their families like everybody else.
- 2:18But I think that you get the worst out of human beings, the
- 2:22worst out of humanity when you have a base layer with
- 2:26misaligned incentives. And of course, I'm talking about
- 2:29Fiat. What happens when you fix that
- 2:32base layer? And there, now there's an
- 2:35aligned incentive structure. These institutions that you
- 2:39would think are just out for themselves, all of a sudden
- 2:44their actions, them pursuing their own greed, them pursuing
- 2:48their own profit, right, are actually benefiting everyone
- 2:51else. That is how Bitcoin works,
- 2:53right? People don't run a node because
- 2:57they just wanna run a node. They run a node, right, because
- 3:00they they wanna have a vote, number one.
- 3:01Number two, you don't wanna trust someone else's copy of the
- 3:04blockchain. You also don't wanna dox.
- 3:07You know, your balances, your your addresses.
- 3:10You also want the some level of privacy, right?
- 3:13That's why you wanna run a node number one.
- 3:16Number two, Bitcoin miners aren't just spending all this
- 3:21money on electricity out of the kindness of their heart.
- 3:25They're doing it out of the pursuit of profit.
- 3:27Right Bitcoin hodlers. They're hodling and they're
- 3:31evangelizing Bitcoin. Yeah, okay.
- 3:35You know, they love Bitcoin. I love Bitcoin.
- 3:37But are we doing this, you know, for charity?
- 3:40Are we doing this because we want to know Just genuinely
- 3:43because number go up benefits us as well.
- 3:46So it benefits everyone equally and what you have with the Fiat
- 3:50system and not to mention that there aren't no special
- 3:53privileges. So for example, when if Michael
- 3:56Saylor or BlackRock or any of these institutions, if they want
- 3:59to buy Bitcoin, they have to get in line like everybody else.
- 4:02Like they don't get a special privilege.
- 4:05They don't get to be insiders anymore.
- 4:08They have to get in line and buy Bitcoin.
- 4:10That's it. That's that's how it is.
- 4:12Including the issuance of Bitcoin is the same thing,
- 4:15right? There is no special privilege if
- 4:17you're a government, an emperor, a president, a dictator, if you
- 4:22want to mint more Bitcoin, you have to mine it just like
- 4:26everybody else. And that is in fundamental
- 4:29contrast to how the Fiat system works.
- 4:32The Fiat system, there's a bureaucratic elite that have the
- 4:35privilege of being able to create money for free that
- 4:38everyone else has to work for. And then that bureaucratic elite
- 4:42has friends and those friends benefit from the money printer.
- 4:46That's why you have these politicians.
- 4:48That's why Washington DC is one of the wealthiest suburbs, like
- 4:51around Washington is one of the wealthiest suburbs on planet
- 4:54Earth. Right.
- 4:55Even though you wouldn't say that DC is necessarily a a
- 4:59productive city, it's it's it's a government hub.
- 5:01But you have to ask yourself why is that the case?
- 5:04Well, the the the reason for that is and why does Elizabeth
- 5:07Warren have a net worth of over $100 million?
- 5:10Why do multiple politicians have these crazy net worths?
- 5:13Well, obviously because they're very close to the money spigot.
- 5:17And then that misaligns incentives.
- 5:19Politicians are not incentivized to do good by their
- 5:22constituents. They're voters.
- 5:24They're incentivized to get as close as humanly possible to the
- 5:27money spigot. So if you separate money from
- 5:29state and all of a sudden the only course of action is for
- 5:32politicians to raise money and to remain in power, to remain in
- 5:37office is via direct taxation and people aren't going to agree
- 5:42to forever wars, people aren't going to agree to these crazy
- 5:46social programs, right? So what Bitcoin is fundamentally
- 5:49doing on the base layer is it's fixing the base layer.
- 5:55You fix the base layer, you fix the money, you fix the world,
- 5:58you align the incentives and all of a sudden these institutions
- 6:01that you would think of as evil. Not too long ago, you have the
- 6:05CEO of the largest asset manager in the world, Larry Fink,
- 6:08talking about how Bitcoin could potentially benefit people that
- 6:12live in dictatorial regimes. So this is, this is what
- 6:16happens, right? Wall Street thinks it will
- 6:18change Bitcoin, but in reality it will be Bitcoin that will
- 6:22change Wall Street. So this is crazy.
- 6:24If you would have told me this a couple years ago that there was
- 6:27literally these giant Wall Street corporations that were
- 6:31funding Bitcoin core developers, I would have laughed in your
- 6:35face. But you know in hindsight it's
- 6:37obvious because bitcoins incentives remain undefeated.
- 6:41Anyway, it's going to be a great show at my legendary Co host.
- 6:44He is smirking today. He's not wearing his suit.
- 6:47He is not dressed appropriately doing the show with Dom.
- 6:51How you doing Dom? Nico, what up man?
- 6:54Bitcoin fixing the DNA at the core, right?
- 6:58Dom, I'm dropping the Dom, dropping the fire earlier on
- 7:02Opti's back on stage. I will forgive him, but I am
- 7:06sending. I don't even own a suit, Nico.
- 7:07Come on, you have a notice and you're.
- 7:10Simply going to buy me a suit? What are you talking about?
- 7:12If you want. Me to wear a.
- 7:13Suit. I need it on the business plan.
- 7:15What, bro? What are the what are the good
- 7:18fashion houses? We got to get Gucci or like Hugo
- 7:20Boss or like one of those people to sponsor, so we could just be
- 7:25all decked out every episode. Dude.
- 7:28I think, I think we can get, I think we can get Armani for
- 7:30OPTI. I think.
- 7:31I think opti's an Armani guy. Not Armani guy, yeah.
- 7:34I see him as an Armani guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 7:36I got some style. I got some style.
- 7:38OK, I could see that. I could see that.
- 7:40Anyways, Opti, what are we going to talk about during the
- 7:42culture, my friend? Well, I have one of my favorite
- 7:44peoples ever on the show with us, Dom Bay himself.
- 7:48Dom Bay. And he came on, I I think it
- 7:51might have been sometime in December.
- 7:53I don't know. It all blurs together.
- 7:54He is, would I say founder of Proof of Workforce or cofounder,
- 8:01CEO. I don't know.
- 8:02He is trying to get pension funds and unions to adopt
- 8:07Bitcoin. Last time he came on he he kind
- 8:10of just TLD ordered us on his mission.
- 8:12Today he's going to give us an update on everything he's seen
- 8:16and some feedback in regards to Bitcoin.
- 8:18So I'm I'm excited for this one. I I love having Dom on.
- 8:20Not only is he absolutely one of the funniest people I know, but
- 8:24he is you know he's a he's a very serious bitcoiners in his
- 8:28own right. He's doing some good out there
- 8:30in the world. Anyways, Dom, how you doing
- 8:32brother? You're going to get me.
- 8:34You're going to get me teary eyed.
- 8:35It's like, remember, remember and Jerry Maguire when he has
- 8:37Rod Tidwell on there and he's like your mom swept the stairs
- 8:40of the church. You you grew up tough.
- 8:42He's like, you're not going to get me.
- 8:44Dude, don't try to get me to cry this early.
- 8:47Well, I mean, you've got the strongest mustache in the game.
- 8:50So I don't know. Steve.
- 8:51Steve Barber. Oh, yeah, he does, Yeah.
- 8:53Yeah. This thing is last day.
- 8:54This is just for simply and then it's gone.
- 8:57So I I let it ride for today and you know.
- 9:01Dom, if I was in a fire in a building and I saw you just
- 9:05breaking that door with an accident and in a full fire suit
- 9:10and whatever, I would feel extremely confident that I was
- 9:14in good hands. Well, God bless you for that.
- 9:17You know, if you catch me on a good day, then that'll be the
- 9:19case. No, no, we're always gonna get
- 9:21you out every time, so. Well, maybe leave Nico there
- 9:24next time, yeah? Super Pump super pumped to be on
- 9:29here. I see BTC is truth asking
- 9:31where's the robe? The robe got retired.
- 9:33You know that was for those that don't know.
- 9:35I wore the robe on the Christmas special because we dressed up
- 9:37with blue collar Bitcoin. Just want to answer that
- 9:40question. Now you guys all wore robes.
- 9:42No, just it worked. Just me, dude.
- 9:45Dom Dom was in a robe, drinking like rose on the stream.
- 9:50No, no, it wasn't Rose. It was eggnog that was spiked
- 9:52eggnog. OK, OK.
- 9:54Damn bro. Dom, your level of swag.
- 9:56I think you you you must have the highest level of swag in
- 9:59Bitcoin, bro. I got to say no.
- 10:01There's, there's, there's far superior.
- 10:03I'm just trying to keep up. I'm just trying to keep up with
- 10:05everyone. Humble Dom.
- 10:06Humble Dom. All right guys, well, it's going
- 10:08to be a great show. Let's jump straight into the
- 10:10numbers. We got a lot to talk about
- 10:11today. Let's check it out.
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- 11:40Hey wait, Indigo, can I jump in here?
- 11:42Yeah, go. Can I jump in here?
- 11:43I know this is still the ad read, but guys, you guys have
- 11:46been hitting us in the chat thinking that you send stamp
- 11:49seed your seed phrase. You do not, in fact, send them
- 11:52your seed phrase guys. They just send you a kit so you
- 11:56can stamp your seed phrase in titanium.
- 11:58At home you we would not ever recommend you send your seed
- 12:03phrase to anyone. So I I've seen some people
- 12:05confused about this in the chat. You do not send them their seed
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- 12:32So and so, like when you know Dom, if he's ever put in a
- 12:36situation where he has has to rescue you, you know he doesn't
- 12:40have to worry about rescuing your seed 'cause it's fireproof,
- 12:43right? Anyways, at the time of
- 12:46recording, the Bitcoin price is $43,120 SATS per dollar 2319
- 12:55block height. 826,050 blocks to having 13,950.
- 13:02Yeah, and someone said in the show, Roman says never share
- 13:06your seed phrase. Absolutely never share your seed
- 13:08phrase. Don't take a picture of it with
- 13:10your phone. Literally it they they don't
- 13:13call it. Store the cold storage for no
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- 13:19day. Put in a very safe place in a
- 13:21safe. Hide it somewhere safe.
- 13:24You know you don't want to share that with anybody.
- 13:26If someone gets access to the to your seed words, they have
- 13:29access to your Bitcoin. Pure and simple anyways.
- 13:33Blocks do having 13,950, having estimate April 20th, 2024 Total
- 13:41lighting capacity 4826, Bitcoin capacity value 208 million, U.S.
- 13:48dollars, Realized monetary inflation 1.75%, and the market
- 13:56capitalization of Bitcoin $844 billion.
- 14:00Bitcoin versus gold market cap 6.13%.
- 14:05In the grand scheme of things, Bitcoin is still a tiny little
- 14:09baby. Anyways, back to what we were
- 14:12talking about in the very beginning of the show.
- 14:15Davos, Switzerland. What's happening in Davos?
- 14:18The World Economic Forum. The global elites.
- 14:22The the the so-called global elites, the leaders of the the
- 14:26the biggest corporations leaders of government leaders of Inter
- 14:31of of of NGOs. Anyone who's anybody, the the
- 14:34very rich and the very powerful are attending the World Economic
- 14:39Forum or like we like to call it on simply Bitcoin, the Contilion
- 14:44Air Conference, because that's really what it is.
- 14:46Anyways Coinbase said something really interesting and this is
- 14:51the CFO of Coinbase Elisa Haas and it says quote, Coinbase is a
- 14:57trusted counterparty. And you know, we, we, we, we
- 15:02tweeted this out from the Simply Bitcoin Twitter account and look
- 15:07check out the Bitcoin white paper.
- 15:09I think it addresses it perfectly what the Coinbase CEO
- 15:12has to say. What is needed is an electronic
- 15:14payment system based on cryptographic proof instead of
- 15:17trust, allowing any 2 willing parties to transact directly
- 15:21with each other without the need for a trusted third party.
- 15:26Right. So we're going to get to that
- 15:28aspect of why they're advertising, you know, a trusted
- 15:32counterparty, right? The whole point of Bitcoin and
- 15:35self custody, which to give them credit.
- 15:37Swan's done an incredible job by the way, educating and promoting
- 15:41this. I think it the last time I saw
- 15:43those statistics, it's like 80% of people who've bought Bitcoin
- 15:47through Swan have taken that Bitcoin into self custody.
- 15:51River is, you know, promoting this as well.
- 15:54Strike has been promoting this. The it's so crazy.
- 15:57The Bitcoin only companies are OK with self custody, right?
- 16:01It's really the altcoin casinos really 'cause that's what
- 16:05Coinbase is, in my opinion, you know, that are that are OK with
- 16:08this, you know, quote UN quote, trusted counterparty.
- 16:11Now I'll let you guys hear the clip and then I have some other
- 16:15things to show you and then we'll talk about it.
- 16:17What I'm really excited about is Davos will really help us with
- 16:20our go broad and grow deep international strategy.
- 16:22There's many global leaders here.
- 16:24There's an opportunity to talk about crypto regulation.
- 16:26There's an opportunity to talk about how crypto will really
- 16:28benefit their users and their markets and how Coinbase is a
- 16:31trusted counterparty and how we bring a different brand to the
- 16:35markets. And so we're really looking
- 16:36forward to the meetings that we have on the schedule.
- 16:38So I mean, like again, like crypto regulation, you know,
- 16:42Coinbase is a trusted counterparty, right, Checking
- 16:45all the boxes, getting in bed essentially with, you know, toe
- 16:49the party line. But at the end of the day, I'll
- 16:53be frank with you guys, this is the separation of money and
- 16:57state, OK? You saw how Elizabeth Warren
- 17:00reacted to. You saw how Elizabeth Warren
- 17:03reacted to the ETF approval. You saw how the Elizabeth Warren
- 17:08currently has a bill with 20 senators essentially that would
- 17:12ban self custody, peer-to-peer and Bitcoin mining in the United
- 17:17States. There's also a similar movement
- 17:19happening in Europe, ladies and gentlemen, Bitcoin.
- 17:23The revolution is not number go up technology.
- 17:26The revolution is not you holding or buying a Bitcoin ETF.
- 17:31The revolution is people, individuals taking self custody
- 17:35of their wealth and by doing so it makes it very difficult for
- 17:41governments to confiscate on a mass scale.
- 17:43We're going to go look into a historical example of that in a
- 17:47second. But also it makes it very
- 17:51difficult for governments to continue to fund themselves on
- 17:54currency debasement, right. People have this feeling that
- 17:59it's like, yes, the US, we're paying for the war in Ukraine
- 18:03through, you know, a tax revenue, No, no, no, no, no,
- 18:07massive deficit spending. The US government collects more
- 18:11taxes year after year, but it spends more money than it
- 18:15collects in tax revenue. In the way that it's able to do
- 18:18that is through the printing of money, which affects the lower
- 18:23and middle classes the most because the lower and middle
- 18:26classes don't have the means to save in assets.
- 18:29Therefore they do not bet. They don't.
- 18:32They don't benefit from asset inflation.
- 18:34So usually what tends to happen is the government prints money,
- 18:38the stock market goes through the roof, and real estate market
- 18:41goes through the roof as well. But if you're living to
- 18:44paycheck, if you're living paycheck to paycheck and you're
- 18:46earning and saving in dollars, you're getting poorer, just to
- 18:49put it bluntly, right. So the revolution is people
- 18:53taking self custody. Now, of course Coinbase is going
- 18:57to be very happy, you know, acting as this custodian.
- 19:01They're literally the custodian for almost every single spot
- 19:05Bitcoin ETF. For Grayscale, the custodian is
- 19:08Coinbase. For Arc, it's Coinbase.
- 19:10For BlackRock, it's Coinbase. For Bitwise, it's Coinbase.
- 19:13For Vanek, it's Gemini. For Wisdom Tree, it's Coinbase.
- 19:17For Invesco Slash Galaxy, it's Coinbase.
- 19:19For Fidelity, Fidelity is the only one that's doing it right.
- 19:22They're taking self custody. For Global X, it's coin base,
- 19:26for hashtags it that that information is not publicly
- 19:28available and for Franklin Templeton it's coin base.
- 19:31So yeah, I mean but here's the danger of this guys.
- 19:35And we've been warning about the potential rug pull.
- 19:37It even says we read you guys this a couple shows ago.
- 19:41It even says that one of the disclosures in the trust
- 19:44documents, it literally says that we don't take
- 19:48responsibility if the US releases an executive order or
- 19:51something like that, that says that we're going to either seize
- 19:55or freeze or confiscate, you know, the Bitcoin that is
- 19:59sitting in this ETF. And it's not that they're just
- 20:01gonna confiscate it and say F you we just took your money,
- 20:04what they've done in the past. And if they do this in the
- 20:07future, what they're going to do is they're going to seize it and
- 20:11confiscate it. You know, for matters of
- 20:14national security, you know, Richard Nixon said like, you
- 20:17know, to protect the dollar from speculators, whatever their BS
- 20:20excuse is going to be. But essentially they're going to
- 20:25hand you dollars in return. So they're going to take
- 20:28something that's truly scarce and they're going to hand you
- 20:31paper of which they can print an unlimited amount of.
- 20:34So Richard Nixon said that that in 1971 the dollar the gold was
- 20:42it was was going to the dollar was going to go off the gold
- 20:45standard. His reasoning was to protect the
- 20:47dollars from for the to protect the dollar from speculators.
- 20:50But in reality the US government didn't have enough money to for
- 20:54the to fund the war in Vietnam, right?
- 20:56They needed to print the money. Well this happened in 1933 as
- 20:59well under FDR. His reasoning was quote forbidding the
- 21:03hoarding of gold coin, gold bullion, gold certificates,
- 21:08certificates within the continental United States.
- 21:11Now just replace this forbidding the hoarding of Bitcoin within
- 21:16the continental United States. The reason that they were able
- 21:20to get away with this was because of gold's physical
- 21:22characteristics. I'm going to give you 2
- 21:24examples. So, example number one, there
- 21:28was a need to strengthen the Executive Order 6102, as the one
- 21:32prosecution under the order was ruled invalid by Federal Judge
- 21:36John M Wolseley on the grounds that the order was signed by the
- 21:39President instead of the Secretary of Treasury.
- 21:42The circumstances of the case were that a New York attorney
- 21:45named Frederick Barber Campbell had one deposit at Chase
- 21:49National Bank at over 5000 Troy ounces of gold.
- 21:53When Campbell attempted to withdraw the gold, Chase refused
- 21:56and Campbell sued Chase, a federal prosecutor then indicted
- 22:00Campbell on the following day for failing to surrender his
- 22:03gold. Ultimately, the prosecution of
- 22:06Campbell failed, but the authority of the federal
- 22:08government to seize gold was upheld and Campbell's gold was
- 22:12confiscated. So check this out.
- 22:14They indicted him for wanting to take back his property of which
- 22:20the US government confiscated at the snap of a finger.
- 22:26Do you understand that? Do you understand what's going
- 22:28on? I like can't is Am I not making
- 22:31the the case clear enough for you guys?
- 22:33Make fly. So, so switch the, you know,
- 22:38switch the thing, replace the word gold and replace it with
- 22:41Bitcoin. Oh, I had my Bitcoin with
- 22:44Coinbase. They confiscated it.
- 22:47And then when I asked for it back, they indicted me for
- 22:51asking for that. Now here's the Now change the
- 22:53situation, right? If you have your Bitcoin in self
- 22:56custody and that happens, you know what's going to happen to
- 22:59every bitcoiner in the USI love El Salvador.
- 23:03El Salvador seems like a great place to visit this time of
- 23:07year. Or maybe not El Salvador, maybe
- 23:08another country, right? Bitcoin gives you 2 powers.
- 23:12It gives you the power to vote with your feet but also your
- 23:14wallet. But only if you take self
- 23:16custody and you properly secure your backup wallet, seed word
- 23:19and of course, cold storage. You know, get yourself a
- 23:22hardware wallet. We recommend the Passport here
- 23:25at Simply Bitcoin, a sponsor. Here's another example.
- 23:28And this doesn't even have to do with an individual.
- 23:30This has to do with a foreign company.
- 23:34I'm not even going to try to pronounce that.
- 23:36Guys, I'm sorry, Opti, you want to give that a crack?
- 23:39Or actually, let's put Dom on the spot.
- 23:41Dom, do you want to try to pronounce that?
- 23:45Yeah, that's LEBESI Finance Corporation.
- 23:48Oh, wow. I'm impressed, bro.
- 23:50That was pretty good. That was pretty good.
- 23:52I would have butchered that. OK.
- 23:54Thanks Dom. Yeah man.
- 23:56Dom. Dom has so much swag dude.
- 23:59I can't. It's I I feel it.
- 24:00I feel it through restream. It's crazy.
- 24:02OK. Anyways, So what Dom said was a
- 24:08Swiss banking company. They held 1.21 point 25 million.
- 24:16Yeah, I said that. Right, Opti, I think.
- 24:18Yeah, 1.25 million in gold coins for business use.
- 24:21Mind you, this was 1.25 million in the 30s.
- 24:23OK, so a lot more these days. The Swiss corporation, the
- 24:28Swiss, the Swiss banking company entrusted the gold to an
- 24:31American firm for safekeeping. And the Swiss were shocked to
- 24:35find that their gold was confiscated.
- 24:38The Swiss made appeals but they were denied.
- 24:41They were entitled to paper money but not their gold.
- 24:45A Swiss company. The Swiss company would have
- 24:48lost 40% of their gold's value if they had to buy the same
- 24:54amount of gold with the paper money that they received in
- 24:57exchange for their confiscated gold.
- 24:59So like, just keep that in mind ladies and gentlemen, when if
- 25:03you're not taking self custody of your Bitcoin, you're 1
- 25:07executive order away from it just being gone.
- 25:12And then in return, it's not that they're just going to steal
- 25:14it, They're just going to say here's some dollars in return,
- 25:18my friend, here, here, here's some dollars.
- 25:21The dollars are just as good, right?
- 25:23And if you have the audacity to get upset about it, you're
- 25:28indicted because they want to make an example out of you,
- 25:30right? But if you take self custody of
- 25:33your Bitcoin, think about that for a second, right?
- 25:36Think about that. Millions of individuals around
- 25:40the US, the most heavily armed country in the world, holding
- 25:45their own keys. You think the government's going
- 25:47to go door to door to door to door to door to door saying,
- 25:52hey, give me your money because of the terrible financial
- 25:57decisions that we've been making in DC?
- 26:00That's going to be a type of different conversation.
- 26:03But the reason that they were able to be so successful with
- 26:06the 6102 order back in back in the 30s was because of the
- 26:13centralization of the custom that gold and ladies and
- 26:17gentlemen, exact same thing is happening right now with the
- 26:22spot Bitcoin ETF. The government literally has to
- 26:25knock on three doors, Coinbase, Gemini and Fidelity.
- 26:30And that's it. It's done and dusted.
- 26:33So self custody is a revolution. Keep your eye on the ball.
- 26:37You know she's saying the quiet part out loud in Davos.
- 26:41And I think, and This is why Elizabeth Warren would be OK if
- 26:46everyone's Bitcoin was custodied at exchanges.
- 26:48She would be totally OK with that.
- 26:50What she was, not, what she's not OK with.
- 26:53What government officials are not OK with is individuals
- 26:56having the capability of storing theoretically millions,
- 27:01billions, trillions of dollars by writing 12 words and then by
- 27:05doing so, their ability to take that Bitcoin with them and also
- 27:09send that Bitcoin to whoever they want around the world,
- 27:12right? That is the revolution.
- 27:14That's what's actually gonna change things.
- 27:15I know I went on a little bit of a ramble, but Opti, what are
- 27:18your thoughts on this my friend? Yeah, well, first and foremost
- 27:21on that Coinbase clip, you know it, it's Bitcoin, not crypto.
- 27:25And there there is a few things besides just the going to Davos
- 27:31to basically position themselves as a trusted third party for
- 27:36high net worth individuals. That is concerning and and
- 27:39personally I think the part in the beginning where she says
- 27:42like it's a it's a good opportunity to talk about crypto
- 27:44regulations. And we've seen what Brian
- 27:46Armstrong has been angling in the last couple definitely in
- 27:50the last year. But of course in the last couple
- 27:52of years his his framing against the SEC that like oh we're not
- 27:57really selling securities that the you know there's Bitcoin and
- 28:01all these other cryptos like that is kind of concerning
- 28:04considering what we are also hearing coming out of Larry Fink
- 28:08himself about like tokenizing all these financialization, the
- 28:11products and all this stuff. So it is very interesting.
- 28:15You know, to their credit though, going to the belly of
- 28:17the beast, I I guess it is looking like a most likely
- 28:21profitable strategy is like, you know, get yourself in front of
- 28:25all these people, make yourself seem like the trusted third
- 28:28party. And as we can see, you know it,
- 28:31it is very concerning, at least on a personal level as a Bitcoin
- 28:35or as someone that holds Bitcoin that thinks the best way to go
- 28:38about this is for you guys to custody your own Bitcoin.
- 28:40It is very concerning that what I don't know how many ETFs, I
- 28:44think that was like all eleven of them.
- 28:46It seemed like maybe three of them aren't using Coinbase for
- 28:49custody. And look, Coinbase had a a huge
- 28:55lead in the Bitcoin space. They went down the shit coin
- 28:58casino route. And so personally it doesn't
- 29:02make me it doesn't sit well in, in my opinion that all of that
- 29:06Wall Street money is going to be held by Coinbase.
- 29:09Obviously for their business it's probably going to be a good
- 29:13look. But for us bitcoiners out here
- 29:15that are just always waiting for a new rug pull, it's like man,
- 29:18this is it could get quite concerning in the future but
- 29:22shouts out to Fidelity and Vanek for switching it up and not
- 29:26using Coinbase. We know that Vanek, they've been
- 29:29in Bitcoin for a while they they seem to be bitcoins.
- 29:32Fidelity's been in Bitcoin for a long time.
- 29:34They drop a lot of great great research themselves.
- 29:37So I think this is hopefully this is just kind of early
- 29:41stages in this because it is, it's still pretty pretty, you
- 29:46know, unmature, I guess maybe I'm making up words here again
- 29:50and everyone's trolling me about frant ran.
- 29:52I misspoke. Anyways.
- 29:53Ran frant ran frant ran. I mean, I think this is what
- 29:58it's all about. This is why we always say that
- 30:01of course you should be custodying your Bitcoin and
- 30:04before people pick pick on certain threads like we know
- 30:07that high net worth individuals aren't going to be taking the
- 30:10corporation's balance sheet and someone custodying that Bitcoin.
- 30:13Like we totally understand this but we understand that most
- 30:15people that watch our show are just individuals and and what we
- 30:18really want to do is spread the signal that you you don't have
- 30:22to just slowly lose your value and save in dollars you you can
- 30:26protect yourself today property rights in cyberspace.
- 30:29The sailor always says, save in Bitcoin, take Bitcoin off
- 30:32exchanges, transact peer-to-peer, hold it, hold your
- 30:36Bitcoin in cold storage. This is the way to protect
- 30:39yourself. Because I fundamentally believe
- 30:41what Nika said, that I just don't think it's feasible for
- 30:45any government to go around door to door and try to take your
- 30:48Bitcoin. And this is the future we're
- 30:50moving in. It's a sovereign individual
- 30:52playing out in real time and you can protect yourself by storing
- 30:56your value in Bitcoin in an asset that cannot be the base
- 30:59and then of course taking your Bitcoin into custody.
- 31:02And if you have a lot of wealth then most likely going towards a
- 31:06multi sig setup anyways. Dom, what's good?
- 31:10So Walt Disney taught us about third party custodians way back.
- 31:15And if you don't remember which movie it was, Jungle Book, you
- 31:19guys remember Kaw the snake, right?
- 31:22He's like this. Trust in me.
- 31:24The eyes are spinning. Trust in me.
- 31:26And then as he's saying that the snake is wrapping around to
- 31:30squeeze you. No, no difference here.
- 31:33You know, Nico just put it a lot more eloquently and broke down
- 31:36the complexities. But one of the things I said at
- 31:40adopting Bitcoin when I spoke to, you know, addressing
- 31:43specifically to workers and and obviously that's my mission is
- 31:47to is to, you know, help workers find Bitcoin is what do you own
- 31:52outside of the system. What is that?
- 31:55That conference is called Davos, the pronunciation, the Davos,
- 31:59Davos, Davos, Davos, those people.
- 32:04I said it that when I spoke it adopted Bitcoin.
- 32:06I said to the crowd, who here can get AUS Senator on the phone
- 32:12within 5 minutes? Raise your hand.
- 32:14I'll give you, I'll give you a million Sats if you can do it
- 32:18right now and get them on FaceTime.
- 32:20Obviously no one can. None of us can.
- 32:22The people at that conference can.
- 32:24And the people at that conference, they control all the
- 32:27assets that you think are yours. Real estate, even gold equities,
- 32:33the stuff in the four O 1K and so if they coordinate and want
- 32:37to they will make those things behave what is in their best
- 32:41interest. Obviously with self custody
- 32:43Bitcoin they cannot do that, they cannot alter that, they
- 32:47can't change the supply, They can try to manipulate the market
- 32:51as a whole, but that assets going to remain intact in your
- 32:55possession. So we can play out a lot of what
- 32:58ifs, you know, going back to when they confiscated gold.
- 33:01How would they do that in which way.
- 33:03Just remember, if you know a custodian is telling you to
- 33:07trust them you start by looking at them.
- 33:09Just like Mowgli should have looked at Kaw the snake.
- 33:13They're wrapping the coil around you.
- 33:15They can do it a tons of different ways.
- 33:17They have all the levers. But if you self custody Bitcoin,
- 33:22those those little eyes that are spinning they they don't
- 33:24remember when Mowgli's immune to the snake.
- 33:26And and and Oh no it's you know who's immune to the snake is
- 33:31sheer Khan. He tried.
- 33:32He's like get out of here dude. Sheer Khan's smart dude.
- 33:34You know what I mean? He's like, dude, come on bro.
- 33:36I know, I know what you're up to.
- 33:37So self custody Bitcoin. And don't get hypnotized by Kaw
- 33:41the snake, AKA any custodian in the world.
- 33:45Yeah, the The Jungle Book reference is really resonating
- 33:48with our audience. Dom man.
- 33:50Dom Bro. Holy shit.
- 33:51Dom Dong's Dom has swag. Dom has with the mustache, with
- 33:56The Jungle Book references. It's too much.
- 33:59It's too much for me to handle. Anyways, guys, before we move on
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- 36:48not your cheese. All right everybody, let's get
- 36:50to today's news, which is, you know, I said it in the opening
- 36:54monologue a little bit, But to give a little bit of a
- 36:57refresher, I tweeted this out January 8th.
- 37:00I said Wall Street thinks it will change Bitcoin, but it will
- 37:02be Bitcoin that will change Wall Street.
- 37:05And why am I saying this? Because it's already happening
- 37:08before our eyes. We have Vanek.
- 37:11Vanek is one of the spot Bitcoin ETFs that got approved.
- 37:15I love their ticker. Their ticker.
- 37:17Their ticker is literally, it's called huddle, which I think is
- 37:20badass. I think they have the best one
- 37:22and I and and I believe they also have some of the best
- 37:24commercials as well that that they've, that we've played.
- 37:27That they've played or that we've played.
- 37:30But check out what they're doing.
- 37:32Vanek to donate 5% of its Bitcoin ETF profits to support
- 37:37Bitcoin core developers. That's right, ladies and
- 37:39gentlemen. Wall Street is now funding the
- 37:43development of Bitcoin. And a lot of Bitcoiners are
- 37:46going to be like this is whatever this is sucks.
- 37:49You know, this is, this is, this is just kind of weird like this.
- 37:54Look guys, if you want hyper bitcoinization, Bitcoin is the
- 37:58money of enemies. This was a path that was always
- 38:01going to be crossed. I mean this was a bridge that
- 38:03was always going to be crossed. I think that the the spot
- 38:07Bitcoin ETFs are a Trojan horse for self custody down the road
- 38:11once people realize that hey, I don't have to be paying fees if
- 38:15I just take self custody of my Bitcoin.
- 38:17So I think it's a step in the right direction and the fact
- 38:20that Wall Street is giving back a percentage of the profits.
- 38:23Specifically in Vanek's situation, they're giving back
- 38:265%. I think it's a big deal.
- 38:28Let me read some of the details, says we're not Bitcoin tourists
- 38:32at Vanek, we're in it for the long haul.
- 38:35That's why we made an initial $10,000 donation and signed a
- 38:38pledge to donate 5% of our Bitcoin ETF profits to support
- 38:42Bitcoin Core devs for at least 10 years.
- 38:47We also know that investing in Bitcoin is difficult to due to
- 38:50its newness and volatility, among other risks.
- 38:53This is why we scream for investors to dollar cost
- 38:56average, start right away small, but dollar cost average over
- 38:59time and hold on for dear life or huddle right they're shilling
- 39:03their own ticker. Last, we put our money where our
- 39:05mouth is by providing the biggest seed capital of any ETF,
- 39:09about 72 million at the time. A similar pledge by Vanek was
- 39:15made in October last year when the company announced its plans
- 39:18to donate. I don't like this part, 10% of
- 39:21its profits from its ether futures ETF to ether Ethereum
- 39:25developers. So I'm not a fan of the last
- 39:27part, but I am a really big fan of this part.
- 39:30And why are they giving more to ETH?
- 39:32What the fuck? What the fuck is up with that?
- 39:35Whatever. It's a good start, I guess, but
- 39:38it's also not only Vanek. Bitwise will donate 10% of its
- 39:43Bitcoin ETF profits to Brink, Open Sats and the Human Rights
- 39:47Foundation. So shout out to Odell, Open Sats
- 39:51and shout out to all the other Bitcoiners are part of that.
- 39:54Shout out to Alex Gladstein. CK totally deserve it.
- 39:57This is crazy. Bitwise will be donating 10% of
- 40:00its profits from its Bitcoin ETF to Open Sats, the Human Rights
- 40:03Foundation and BRIC, all split evenly for the next 10 years.
- 40:09It goes on to say Bit Bitcoin was launched 15 years, 15 years
- 40:13ago without a fundraise. It is maintained by a dedicated
- 40:16community of open source developers who work tirelessly
- 40:20to improve Bitcoin security, scalability and usability.
- 40:23They're the unsung heroes. All Bitcoin investors benefit
- 40:27from the this open source work, but it is difficult for anyone
- 40:31investor to pick up the bill with the recurring donation.
- 40:35I'm assuming that's their that's their ticker.
- 40:37The BITB creates a strong alignment between Bitcoin
- 40:41investors and the strength of the underlying open source
- 40:45infrastructure. We selected Bitcoin Brink,
- 40:48Opensats and Human Rights Foundation, fantastic nonprofit
- 40:52organizations with established track records to receive and
- 40:56allocate BITBS recurring donations.
- 40:59The donations have no strings attached and will be made
- 41:03annually for at least the next 10 years.
- 41:06Bitwise first filed for a spot Bitcoin ETF five years ago.
- 41:11Today is a milestone we do not take lightly.
- 41:13Our vision and hope for BITB is to be the ETF this space
- 41:19deserves. If you support this recurring
- 41:21donation to Bitcoin open source development, please help spread
- 41:25the word about BITB. Finally, we want to express
- 41:29gratitude to the developers, researchers, builders,
- 41:32educators, investors, and the whole community striving to
- 41:35change the world for the better through Bitcoin.
- 41:38The future is brighter because of you.
- 41:40Now remember what I talked talked about in the opening
- 41:43monologue about aligned incentives?
- 41:47And here's a great example of that.
- 41:48If you support the recurring donation to Bitcoin open source
- 41:52development, please help spread the word about Bitv so they're
- 41:56in their good graces. It's like, look guys, we're
- 41:58giving back to the community. This is why you have to buy the
- 42:02bitwise ETF, right? And Venek too.
- 42:05Like you know it it this is what I'm talking about.
- 42:07Aligned incentives. This isn't just Wall Street
- 42:10saying you know what we like, We love Bitcoin.
- 42:14We got to give back, we got to say all the right things and all
- 42:17the right wording and all the right thing.
- 42:19No, they're basically trying to incentivize people, right?
- 42:23And Rave Elevator says it perfectly sounds like a tax
- 42:26write off donation. Exactly.
- 42:28So I don't believe the reasonings, but this is another
- 42:32example of aligned incentive structures doing what aligned
- 42:36incentive structures do. And in a line incentive
- 42:39structure, everyone wins, right? Unlike the Fiat incentive
- 42:43structure where an elite few benefit, the party of Davos, the
- 42:48World Economic Forum elite, right.
- 42:50And then everyone else, you know, is not invited to the
- 42:53party, Bitcoin, everyone benefits equally, right?
- 42:57So Michael Saylor, you know, with his hundreds of thousands
- 43:01of Bitcoin and you know the Pleb that has .05, they're going to
- 43:05benefit equally from that gain. And let's say they wanted to buy
- 43:08Bitcoin. Both of them, They have to pay
- 43:11the same price, right? Michael Saylor doesn't get
- 43:13special treatment. So it is a much, much fair
- 43:16system despite what politicians like Elizabeth Warren have to
- 43:19say about it. So anyways, I I I mean, I like,
- 43:23it's cool. Like I my my stance is this,
- 43:26like shout out to Van Eck and shout out to Bitwise.
- 43:30But at the same time, like I know they're not doing this, you
- 43:33know, to to support the community.
- 43:35I think they're doing this to get customers to show good
- 43:38faith. And I think they're they're
- 43:40they're doing this to protect their bags, right.
- 43:42They're they they benefit from from Bitcoin development.
- 43:45But this is aligned incentives doing what aligned incentives
- 43:48do. So anyways we're going to start
- 43:49off with the Dom. I'm really excited to hear what
- 43:52reference he's going to use this time.
- 43:54Sure. I'll drop another movie
- 43:55reference if if I can. So again I think I think as Wall
- 43:59Street gets into this game we're going to see a lot of double
- 44:02edged swords and you know a lot of good things that are wrapped
- 44:08and maybe dangerous bad things. I see in some of the comments of
- 44:11course people are throwing out that it's self-serving a tax
- 44:14write off that they're trying to set up you know influence to to
- 44:18better to to have to be able to better influence Bitcoin Core
- 44:23and developers etcetera. You just assume that everything
- 44:26like that is true. I'll give a movie reference
- 44:28here. Dodgeball Globo gym.
- 44:30Dude, you know that the evil gym that wants to take over all the
- 44:34gyms and then you have what's the one Little Joe's or Joe's
- 44:37gym or whatever. It's like the local for the the
- 44:40everyday folks, you got to just assume these things are true,
- 44:44but take advantage of the gift that's been dropped.
- 44:48As I learn more about the protocol, I learned that the
- 44:51maintenance and upkeep in the work that goes on behind the
- 44:53scenes with every layer I peel back to learn more about
- 44:56Bitcoin. I'm like, wow, this there's a
- 44:58ton of work here. And it's it's you know
- 45:03strengthening that work when you have core developers that can
- 45:07dedicate more time to keeping Bitcoin running uninterrupted
- 45:13and the strongest decentralized network in the world that's only
- 45:17getting bigger. So these things are kind of like
- 45:20weaving in. It's on us to learn more, engage
- 45:24more, participate more and prevent those things that we
- 45:28think could be attached to these good gestures And and we have to
- 45:33just monitor those, assume that they can be a real possibility
- 45:36and do our part to to prevent them from, you know, tainting
- 45:41this beautiful thing that we have.
- 45:42That's Bitcoin. 100% and and that's going to happen guys.
- 45:45But you know someone Opti, could you pull up that last comment
- 45:49because I think it's by by Jess everything cuz I'll trust mutual
- 45:54self-interest more than I'll trust most things.
- 45:57And this is a phenomenon that you'll see over and over and
- 46:00over and over and over and over again happen in Bitcoin.
- 46:03And this is what I'm talking about, align incentives.
- 46:05Once you see it, you won't be able to Unsee it.
- 46:09We had another comment by Apola G says ETF Vanek sounds
- 46:14self-serving. It totally is.
- 46:17But we had someone respond saying doesn't matter why they
- 46:19donate, they strengthen Bitcoin. However however, however right,
- 46:24they did say no strings attached, but you know Wall
- 46:27Street, I don't really trust that.
- 46:30So I I really agree with Dom's perspective that we really have
- 46:34to be aware of. You know, is it really no
- 46:37strings attached, right? Because I, I, I don't forget the
- 46:40four cores, right? The four cores were literally
- 46:43the, you know, the strongest corporations in Bitcoin.
- 46:46The largest Bitcoin, not only one of the largest Bitcoin
- 46:49miners, but also the largest ASIC manufacturers.
- 46:52Bit Main and Jihan try to make the blocks bigger, therefore
- 46:58making the network less decentralized because it would
- 47:02raise the resource requirements to run a node, right?
- 47:06So yeah, I mean, we won the fork wars, right?
- 47:10The community, the people won the fork wars, but we have to
- 47:13remain ever so vigilant. I love that takedown.
- 47:17Anyways. Opti, what's your take on all
- 47:20this bro? Yeah, well First off, of course.
- 47:23Like, on the surface, this sounds great.
- 47:25There's countless stories of open source developers in
- 47:27Bitcoin that either aren't paid well or can barely pay for their
- 47:32living and have to go find Fiat job.
- 47:34So you know I really do like the initiative but of course you
- 47:38know there is a real concern about Co opting Bitcoin and
- 47:41shipping code that hurts users and and like that should be a
- 47:44real concern. I I love the cynicism and the
- 47:46skepticism from everyone but going through open sets like I
- 47:50know the guys over at open sets like Odell's an advisor shouts
- 47:54out to Ben he's he's a great dude.
- 47:57Gigi's on the board. So like you know the bitwise
- 48:01donations of this I I think is is going to be absolutely
- 48:04beneficial for Bitcoin in general because the guys over at
- 48:07Open Sets are doing great work and I'm pretty sure that they
- 48:11will pick some good good projects to send money to and
- 48:15some good developers. So like to me I I do like the
- 48:19initiative even though I am kind of concerned about if there will
- 48:23be strings attached and what's going on and then on the like
- 48:26self-serving stuff guys like self-interest is good.
- 48:29We are all self interested in Bitcoin surviving because we
- 48:33need it to store our value moving through space and time
- 48:36And of course we are all self interested in making sure that
- 48:40our nodes are verifying the Bitcoin network and the rules
- 48:43that we run. So I I don't think that we
- 48:45should really frame this as oh self-interest is bad because you
- 48:49know I keep thinking of the Wall Street movie reference like
- 48:51greed is good. We are all here to see Bitcoin
- 48:55store value through time and space.
- 48:57So like, I absolutely love this and and like to be completely
- 49:01fair to the ETF issuers, like getting bit corners to support
- 49:06your ETF is good for that product.
- 49:07So like this isn't just them like being you know, completely
- 49:14I I'm blanking on the word benevolent here and they're just
- 49:17like oh we're doing this for the good of the Bitcoin networks.
- 49:19Like, no, we're all self interested in making sure that
- 49:22Bitcoin does strengthen, that Bitcoin does go up in value and
- 49:25that Bitcoin does survive the long route.
- 49:27So of course would love and and support the idea of these ETFs
- 49:34donating to open source developers.
- 49:35Because I if you guys have been here for a while, you guys know
- 49:39that open source development is really like an unsung job.
- 49:43You know, there there is no one that pays you directly unless
- 49:46you are a part of a project and you're really just building a
- 49:49reputation so that you can continue to work on Bitcoin and
- 49:52hopefully get some of these donations yourself because you
- 49:55know it's really value for value coding.
- 49:58And there's so many stories that I've come across of open source
- 50:02developers that have to leave Bitcoin because they just can't
- 50:05pay the bills. And so you know, love to see
- 50:07this, would would really love to see more Bitcoin ETFs do the
- 50:11same thing because again, we're all self interested in seeing
- 50:14Bitcoin succeed and this shouldn't be something that we
- 50:18take as a bad thing. Like I am self interested in
- 50:21seeing Bitcoin succeed. There's no shame in this.
- 50:25Like I think Bitcoin is the best way to store value and I run the
- 50:29code that I wanna run and if they do ship some bad code like
- 50:33don't update your node right away just be a little.
- 50:36Literally, This is why you have to run.
- 50:38This is literally why you have to run your own node.
- 50:40And guys, you could check the link in the video description.
- 50:45I recommend the start nine. That's the one, The one, the one
- 50:47that I use personally, the the server peer.
- 50:50It's badass. It's it's a workhorse.
- 50:53It's amazing. Definitely recommend start nine.
- 50:55You could also just download the start 9 operating system on an
- 50:58old computer, right? You have absolutely no excuse to
- 51:01run a node at this point, because if you don't run a node,
- 51:05you don't have a vote. Really, you don't have a vote of
- 51:07which Bitcoin software you want to run, of which Bitcoin
- 51:10software you you you do want to run.
- 51:13So anyways, I do want to give a Dom.
- 51:17I I was only going to say one more thing along the lines of
- 51:19running the node, you know, and what Opti and you guys were
- 51:21saying. The best offense to that is
- 51:24continuing to learn about Bitcoin, the network, the
- 51:27protocol, the fundamentals. Every day I realize like how
- 51:32naive I am on that aspect of Bitcoin.
- 51:35And of course I love jumping in about the ETF and talking about
- 51:40this like glow, how you know the power plays and the big global,
- 51:44you know, outlook about who's going to get into Bitcoin and
- 51:47the sovereign wealth funds and who's mining and the the the the
- 51:50war theories and and all that stuff.
- 51:52But that everyone, all of us have so much to learn on the
- 51:57network, the protocol and the history, the inner workings of
- 52:00that. And the more time we dedicate to
- 52:03learning about that, it forms like a natural defense against
- 52:07these bad actors that may or may not be trying to influence
- 52:12Bitcoin. And so like you know again
- 52:15echoing your guys comments about running a node, learning more,
- 52:18getting engaged, you know studying the bit process and and
- 52:23just like learning about these things is really valuable to to
- 52:27any of these perceived threats. 100% completely agree with that
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- 54:45All right, Dom, the man, the myth, the legend.
- 54:48Let's just start for those that aren't familiar with what Proof
- 54:52of Workforce is, and then we'll go into some updates.
- 54:55So again, guys? Dom, what exactly are you
- 54:59working on at Proof of Workforce?
- 55:01Yeah, so proof of workforce is a non profit.
- 55:04It's a 5O1C4 and our mission is to find the bitcoiners in any
- 55:11workplace or workplace organization and provide them
- 55:15with free resources to help Orange Pill, whether it be their
- 55:19union, their workplace, their organization, etcetera.
- 55:23That's our mission. Last year we got 3 unions to add
- 55:28Bitcoin to the balance sheet, all starting from a place of
- 55:31self custody, which was huge. Starting with Santa Monica,
- 55:36firefighters made history and being the first union to self
- 55:40custody Bitcoin in the country. We have an incredible board with
- 55:43a a lot of a lot of depth in the space.
- 55:47We, you know, we'll travel to go talk to organizations, we'll
- 55:51talk at union meetings, we'll talk to pension funds and it's
- 55:55really important for us all the things we talked about on this
- 55:58show to to approach them as a no strings attached.
- 56:02We have no product, we sell no product and we want to educate
- 56:08organizations to take their own steps towards Bitcoin.
- 56:11But we really want to teach them about self custody, Bitcoin and
- 56:15the importance of what it means Bitcoin to network.
- 56:18Even if even if we are talking to a pension fund that says,
- 56:21hey, the only way we can get into Bitcoin is through an ETF,
- 56:25that's all that's set up right now.
- 56:27OK, that may be their path, but please, like let's talk about
- 56:31self custody and let's talk about Bitcoin, because even
- 56:35pension funds have fallen to the sword of the Wall Street giants.
- 56:40Just look at the financial crisis in O 8 and have been, you
- 56:44know, butchered as far as their holdings and what they
- 56:48represent. And so it's really important to
- 56:50understand Bitcoin, why it exists out of the system, why it
- 56:54was created. That's our mission to proof of
- 56:56workforce. We're already ripping in 2024,
- 57:00but we do depend on anyone out there to help spread the word.
- 57:04Tell people that you know in different industries, whether
- 57:07they're electricians, firefighters, police officers,
- 57:10nurses, teachers. Like these are all people that
- 57:13trade their time for money. And unfortunately, a lot of time
- 57:17that money does not hold up over time and they lose.
- 57:21So we want to help them win and find Bitcoin, just like all of
- 57:25us on this show have found it. Love it bro.
- 57:28Love it. OK.
- 57:29And you mentioned the ETF, so I do want to get to what the
- 57:34response has been from pension funds and stuff, but you already
- 57:37mentioned it. So what should people in
- 57:42pensions just be buying the spot Bitcoin ETF or should they be
- 57:46custodying their Bitcoin? What's been the feedback on that
- 57:49point and what's your thoughts on that?
- 57:51So First off, just the overall perception of Bitcoin.
- 57:54You know, I, I tweeted out a while ago that I think that
- 57:57pensions are going to be a slow moving ship when it comes to the
- 58:00ETF. I think a lot of family wealth,
- 58:02offices and you know, funds that are privately managed are going
- 58:06to be the first to move on those.
- 58:09You know, we got to remember, despite all these big Wall
- 58:13Street players now putting out commercials, the same people
- 58:17that own a majority of the mainstream media have been
- 58:21hammering Bitcoin for at least a decade.
- 58:25And I'm sure if you tally up the amount of negative press on
- 58:28Bitcoin verse positive press, it must be overwhelming.
- 58:32And so naturally, pension fund managers, they've been told for
- 58:3610 years, this thing's bad. It's a scam, it's no good.
- 58:38It's FTX, it's Celsius, it's all the negative stuff.
- 58:41It's like your career risk is through the roof.
- 58:43You're a clown. If you even mention this or have
- 58:46someone talk about it. Now there's a commercial saying
- 58:49that, oh, this is the future and this is hope.
- 58:53Whoa. Like, that's going to punch a
- 58:55lot of fund managers in the face and they're still going to be
- 58:58very distant. So in my conversations with
- 59:01different pension fund folks, they're still hesitant.
- 59:05They're not sold yet by these massive, you know, Wall Street
- 59:09giants all of a sudden doing a 180 on how they look at Bitcoin.
- 59:13I think that'll take time, but of course there's an opportunity
- 59:16there to teach them about Bitcoin.
- 59:19And so I think we have some time before they jump in why they
- 59:25should put it on the balance sheet for all the reasons we
- 59:29know and love, right? It is outside of the system.
- 59:32It is low risk. The asymmetrical upside is
- 59:36through the roof. There's more to it than just an
- 59:40asset. Even though Larry Fink and every
- 59:42time he talks now, he really wants you to to focus that this
- 59:45is an asset and he wants you to forget that this is the most
- 59:49powerful decentralized network on the planet.
- 59:52But we're not going to forget and and we're going to make sure
- 59:55the pension funds learn this and don't ever forget either.
- 59:59And so I think there's a lot of benefit if your pension fund and
- 1:00:03your mission is to protect the priceless time that that's been,
- 1:00:08you know, contributed by workers so that they can retire.
- 1:00:12You want to make sure that you have some kind of allocation to
- 1:00:15something that cannot be taken. Nico mentioned it about the
- 1:00:21confiscation thing. Who knows what can happen, but
- 1:00:24also something that can't be taken from like a slow bleed
- 1:00:27type of loss and and it's easy when the shit hits the fan like
- 1:00:33in a financial crisis to go. How do we balance this Fiat
- 1:00:36Ledger after this calamity? I know Nico and Opti, Y'all.
- 1:00:41We're going to retire at 57. Let's push that to 65.
- 1:00:44What's 8 years to us? I don't care.
- 1:00:46We just up in Wall Street at the racquetball club.
- 1:00:49We don't care if you have to work an extra 7 years and if you
- 1:00:52die during those seven years at work instead of retiring like
- 1:00:56you know, God bless. Hopefully you leave a little
- 1:00:59something to the to the folks. They asked cities for more money
- 1:01:02into the pension funds. They say hey O Opti and Nico, we
- 1:01:06need a bigger chunk of your salary, your take home salary.
- 1:01:09Forget about what you're saving towards.
- 1:01:11We need that to balance the Ledger.
- 1:01:12And it's easy. Someone was joking on there and
- 1:01:15said that my movie reference was for ants.
- 1:01:17But it's easy to take a couple little crumbs from ants on an
- 1:01:21aggregate level then to take from the rich and powerful at a
- 1:01:24big scale to take, you know, take someone who has, you know,
- 1:01:28$500 billion in wealth and say we're going to take 100 billion.
- 1:01:32That person is going to do everything in their power to
- 1:01:35wreck you and fight that, so it's easy to take from the ants.
- 1:01:39That's us. The people that work every day
- 1:01:41trade our time for money. So I know I went on a little bit
- 1:01:44of a rant there. No, no, not at all bro.
- 1:01:46This is what this like we this is the whole to give you a
- 1:01:50platform because these projects are just so important.
- 1:01:54Bitcoin is middle class money like Bitcoin is you know,
- 1:01:58because it it it think about it it for the first time in human
- 1:02:01history, you know the workers, lower class, middle class
- 1:02:05people. You have the ability to earn in
- 1:02:08the money and save in the money that it that can't be debased
- 1:02:11and can't be confiscated. I mean it's the same thing.
- 1:02:14Debasement confiscation is really the same thing but it
- 1:02:16protects, it protects the little guy.
- 1:02:19It protects the the, the everyday person.
- 1:02:22And that's what to me that's what's so special about Bitcoin
- 1:02:26really. So no, Dom, I, I I do not accept
- 1:02:29your apology. I wish your your rant was 5-10
- 1:02:33minutes longer. Oh thank you guys.
- 1:02:35I'm, I'm passionate about it. I love to see workers win.
- 1:02:38I think everyday people, right. That's that's all of us.
- 1:02:42And you know it's it's it's really important to help that
- 1:02:46them find that things have have heated up a little bit and now
- 1:02:51guess what Wall Street is trying to find people too.
- 1:02:55And they're using their power and tools.
- 1:02:57But we have more numbers than they do.
- 1:03:00We interact with people face to face more than they do through
- 1:03:03the television, through the computer, through your, your
- 1:03:07iPhone. And we can help spread this word
- 1:03:10and and actually defeat them even though we don't have the
- 1:03:13same resources. So again, you know, we take the
- 1:03:17good from what Wall Street is doing with the ETF.
- 1:03:20It's get off 0 is the name of the game.
- 1:03:22And if that means that an ETF is the only way that an
- 1:03:25organization or a pension can get off 0, great.
- 1:03:28But we us will be right there at that point to go, OK, hey, boom,
- 1:03:33like wake up and look at this thing that's going on.
- 1:03:37Look at Bitcoin. Look at how they're trying to
- 1:03:39use it. And at least understand that,
- 1:03:43like how Bitcoin works and the fact that you are buying shares
- 1:03:47of a fund where other people own the most magical part of the
- 1:03:52thing that they're trying to get you in to invest in.
- 1:03:55They own that you don't. So why don't you see if there's
- 1:03:58a way for you to own that magical thing that they're
- 1:04:00selling you, You know what I mean?
- 1:04:02So they're selling you the Beanstalk without the beans.
- 1:04:05You know, another reference there.
- 1:04:06I don't know if there's a movie on Jack and the Beanstalk, but
- 1:04:09you know. Love it.
- 1:04:11One more question. We got a comment, we got a
- 1:04:15comment and then we'll go back to the we'll go back to Opti's
- 1:04:17questions. So simply, Bitcoin love the
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- 1:05:02Anyways, Opti. Yeah, questions for.
- 1:05:05Dom. The Dom.
- 1:05:06The Dom. You were basically a first mover
- 1:05:09on this idea and it seems to be catching on.
- 1:05:12We even saw Kathy Wood talking about this.
- 1:05:14What's your thoughts on what Kathy Wood's been saying lately?
- 1:05:17Yeah, I I tweeted out for Kathy Woods to make her first call to
- 1:05:21the Chicago pension fund when I read.
- 1:05:23I read an article when I read her tweet about that that said
- 1:05:26that yeah, here it is. Profits from Chicago's first
- 1:05:30casino lower than expected, jeopardizing future pension
- 1:05:34funding. Whoa.
- 1:05:36So the casinos not doing as well?
- 1:05:38Actual casino is not doing as well as we thought.
- 1:05:42And now you may have to work a couple years longer.
- 1:05:45Maybe you'll pitch in more of your money.
- 1:05:47We'll figure it out. Sorry.
- 1:05:49Sorry for that crazy stuff. So she's got her work cut out
- 1:05:54for her. I'm happy for to see them
- 1:05:55reaching out to pension funds. We'll be right there.
- 1:06:00What? The minute we see, you know, a
- 1:06:02pension fund jump on board with the ETF.
- 1:06:04We'll be working triple time to try to at least get them as much
- 1:06:07education as possible as to what Bitcoin is.
- 1:06:11Where the value is in holding Bitcoin and self custody
- 1:06:14exploring ways that pensions can one day do this maybe they build
- 1:06:17in house systems similar to like what micro strategy what I've
- 1:06:23heard that they've done and building in house you know ways
- 1:06:27to custody this. So it's it's awesome.
- 1:06:31I love to see it and we're going to we're our focus is heavily on
- 1:06:37the participants of the pension and getting them to self
- 1:06:40custody. Bitcoin and the unions that make
- 1:06:43up the pension participants and I think over time if these
- 1:06:48pensions don't come around they're going to start finding
- 1:06:51that there. There's a lot of people chirping
- 1:06:53up from the participation side saying what are you doing why is
- 1:06:57our pension down when even I now have found this incredible thing
- 1:07:01that is help helping to protect my retirement and if they if
- 1:07:04they aren't careful there may be a group of workers one day I'm
- 1:07:08not I don't know when that go we're going to opt out of this
- 1:07:11system and form a retirement system based on Bitcoin.
- 1:07:14Who knows? You know, anything can happen.
- 1:07:17Let's go. All right, guys, I heard you in
- 1:07:19the chat, so I cut Nico off. He's no longer on the show
- 1:07:22anymore? No, but Dom.
- 1:07:26OK, last question. And and it's really more of
- 1:07:30future projections. What?
- 1:07:31What do you got in the works? Do you have any big names about
- 1:07:34the drop, Like any Any new news stories?
- 1:07:36And and maybe also like, what's your game plan for 2024?
- 1:07:41Yeah, so 2024, we're talking to a handful of unions.
- 1:07:45I got a couple of good ones on the East Coast, one in Jersey.
- 1:07:50That would be awesome. You know, I just like if I can
- 1:07:52go to Jersey and talk to a union about Bitcoin, Like what a what,
- 1:07:55a what a treat. I see it from the from the
- 1:07:58crowd. My hat, this is a warrior's hat,
- 1:08:00has nothing to do with 2024. They're just they're struggling
- 1:08:03on the record now. So they need all the help they
- 1:08:05can get and then and then so, so we're going to be talking to as
- 1:08:09many unions as we can. Pension funds I think on the
- 1:08:13docket, bid block, boom, I might be talking there.
- 1:08:18So I know, I know y'all are going to be there.
- 1:08:20So that would be awesome. Shout out to Gary Leland it's
- 1:08:23such an epic conference. Nashville's coming up of course
- 1:08:27and and anytime speaking at these conferences want to try to
- 1:08:30get workforce organizations to attend, learn and and hear a
- 1:08:34message targeted at them. So it's it's boots on the
- 1:08:38ground. I'm probably going to try to do
- 1:08:40less conference stuff and more going to talk to any any union,
- 1:08:45any workplace organization. I will walk Dr. Horseback fly
- 1:08:50there by any means necessary. We will get the resources to
- 1:08:54you. We will support you bringing
- 1:08:57forward a proposal to get your group off of 0.
- 1:09:01We have resources. We'll make it happen.
- 1:09:03So we're going to continue to. We are nonprofit, so we'll try
- 1:09:07to find on the business side people to support our efforts.
- 1:09:11And we are going to Orange Pill. I set a goal for 100, no less
- 1:09:15than 100 unions to onboard Bitcoin for 2024.
- 1:09:19Let's go. Yeah, we'll, we will.
- 1:09:21We will make it happen by any means necessary.
- 1:09:24Let's go. Hey Don, we do have a comment in
- 1:09:27here, someone on Twitter, Greg Hofmeister, he says.
- 1:09:30I have a friend who works on Massachusetts pensions fund.
- 1:09:32He told me they are looking into BTC ETFs.
- 1:09:36Would love to connect with Baywatch.
- 1:09:37So if people wanna reach out, where's the best place for them
- 1:09:41to reach out to? So we have a proof of
- 1:09:44workforce.org. There's a little intake form
- 1:09:46that goes right to the e-mail will respond to everyone's
- 1:09:49e-mail. Y'all can always message the the
- 1:09:53proof of Workforce Twitter handle which is Workforce BTC
- 1:09:57and or you can message me directly on Twitter.
- 1:10:00My handles Baywatch 1 spelled with my name BEI.
- 1:10:05Not Baywatch like the show. Long story to that.
- 1:10:07I think I told it on the last show, but reach out with those 3
- 1:10:13platforms and we will get back. We will give you the as many
- 1:10:17resources as we possibly can, and we will help craft a
- 1:10:21proposal to give you the best shot at your organization.
- 1:10:25If it's a pension, we'll whatever you think is best and
- 1:10:28whatever you can contact you have, we'll follow up and we'll
- 1:10:32make it happen. Oh yeah.
- 1:10:33Well I mean dude it's it's it's an honor to have you on the show
- 1:10:37Dom and this is such an incredible you know project that
- 1:10:42you've undertaken. I I, I had the privilege to be
- 1:10:45able to produce some of the the one of the the Nakamoto
- 1:10:51portfolio shows that that you were doing over at the Swan
- 1:10:54channel and just seeing you know you guys with with Hoffa and and
- 1:10:59the the I forgot what the name of the website is but just.
- 1:11:03Breaking Nakamotoportfolio dot. Comnakamotoportfolio.com and
- 1:11:07just breaking it down to you know these people that are in
- 1:11:10charge of the pen, the the pensions and it was the 2nd show
- 1:11:14with the older gentleman and you know these guys that you know
- 1:11:17they've been working their entire lives.
- 1:11:19They have no idea that Bitcoin provides a solution.
- 1:11:23You know, it provides that sense of of stability, that sense of
- 1:11:27like, you know, you're good if you just allocate a small
- 1:11:30percentage. It doesn't have to be like Nikko
- 1:11:32Opti 130%, you know, but it it could just be a small percentage
- 1:11:38point. And just because Bitcoin does
- 1:11:40its thing, you know, you allocate 345 percent of your
- 1:11:43pension to Bitcoin, it could actually outperform the rest of
- 1:11:46your pension. And that's what people don't
- 1:11:48understand, right. So, you know, I think you're
- 1:11:50doing Satoshi's work. It's an honor to have you on the
- 1:11:54show as always and this is so incredibly important ladies and
- 1:11:58gentlemen, you know. So if you any pensions, you know
- 1:12:03any fire stations, anything that you're thinking about that check
- 1:12:06out proofofwork.org, connect with at Baywatch one on Twitter
- 1:12:10that's Dom's Twitter handle. Send him Adm and you know, I'm
- 1:12:14I'm sure that he he'll take it from there.
- 1:12:16So hey, Nico, can I can I chime in here?
- 1:12:19Of course, shouts out the Dom, and This is why we do our show
- 1:12:24as well. There are bitcoiners that are
- 1:12:28only focused on high net worth individuals and of course I'm
- 1:12:32not shaming them and there's a lane for everyone, but I also am
- 1:12:37very focused on just reaching the everyday person and like
- 1:12:41that's why we do what we do. You know, I remember before I
- 1:12:44had Bitcoin like it, there was no hope for life.
- 1:12:47And I and I try to communicate as much as possible to like my
- 1:12:50parents and my friends so that they can also escape the rat
- 1:12:54race or at least have a little bit for themselves.
- 1:12:56And I just love what you're doing, Don, because you said it,
- 1:12:58you say it all the time. You know, you're you're just
- 1:13:00trying to reach everyday people and ensure that they have
- 1:13:02something to hold on to moving forward because you know the
- 1:13:06safety Nets that are out there are most likely not going to be
- 1:13:10the safety net that they believe it will be. 100 percent 100, I
- 1:13:13100% agree with that statement. Anyways, guys, this is a great
- 1:13:17show. Thank you all so much for tuning
- 1:13:20in. I want to give a very, very
- 1:13:21special shout out. Thanks Opti.
- 1:13:22I want to give a very special shout out to our guest, the Dom
- 1:13:27Bay. Dom, thank you so much for for
- 1:13:30joining us on the show today guys.
- 1:13:31You could follow him at Baywatch 1 and you can send them a
- 1:13:36Twitter DM. So, Dom, thank you so much for
- 1:13:38joining us. Really appreciate it.
- 1:13:40Since everyone, since a couple people called me an asshole for
- 1:13:43cutting Opti off, I'm going to let Opti close out the show
- 1:13:47today. I'm going to elf off.
- 1:13:49No, no. Oh, man.
- 1:13:50All right. I thought my job was done for
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