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Sister Wives S4 E9 - Meri's Baby Decision · My Sister Wives Podcast

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What does the nanny do? OK, so we're done.
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Goodbye. You.
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Shut it off. Do not twist my words.
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Do not make me a victim, sweetie.
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Just look at the mountain. That's what you.
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Saw that day, just the knife in the kidneys over.
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All these. Years and the sacrifices that I
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made to love you. Season 4 Episode 9 Meri's baby
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decision Kimber, How do you feel
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episode? It's like they're trying to say
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Meri's big decision, Meri's baby decision.
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And we've had a lot of discussion about Meri and her
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potential baby, and it's just gone on long enough, so.
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Just being drug on and on. On and on.
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And on and on. Season 4, they're really trying
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to beat us over the head with Meri having a baby decision.
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So lovely. The episode opens at Meri's
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house and Kody is telling us about how he usually likes to
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take wives out for their birthday and their anniversary.
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But last year, Meri got neither.
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Neither, neither. And I have to say, her hair
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looks very good here. It's smoothed down.
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She didn't flip it out. It looks a little greasy, like
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maybe she's using some Pantene
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But it looks good. It looks smooth and nice.
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And I did notice that. Yeah, it feels like the extremes
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come with the couch moments. The interviews, It's like when
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they were wrapped for the season
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interviews, it was like Meri went extreme.
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All out? No, it looks very nice here and
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I was pleasantly shocked. Shocked.
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Yes, but in a good way. It seems to me like they didn't
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get to do birthday and anniversary last year because of
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the move, the run out of state, the place, all the things going
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on in their life. The chaos.
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The chaos, the Brown family chaos.
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They do give us a flashback of
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piece of paper, the remember the
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her birthday with the Mexico trip and she's sitting on the
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couch with her leg up in the knee brace.
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The drama. Love those flashbacks,
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especially because they give us the nice sepia slash black and
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white tone so it's like remember
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And it's like yes we do remember.
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It was just a few episodes ago
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nauseam. Kody has to go house to house to
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pack. Oh yeah, he's got things.
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And he's like in all these women's closets, my wife's class
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in the, the four houses, there's
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correcting himself. And it's like, Oh my God.
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So gathering all his clothing for this big trip that they're
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going to take. Do they did they say anything
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about where they're going at this point?
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Well, they show us the clips of everything and it's, you know,
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shown the Mexico trip. It's it's happened.
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Oh, that's right. They show the flashback and so
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it's inferred that the Mexico trip is here.
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I. Just talked about them, talking
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with them that I'm like, do they
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It's like, that's how. Yeah, they didn't really
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announce that it's the Mexico trip, but it's inferred based on
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the flashback and we are given
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Like if I was smart enough, I would have put these pieces
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together, perhaps after I just
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But then instead you needed to
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better looking female friend. Yes, and she's wearing some
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glasses right now. Some smarty pants glasses.
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I am fit in the bill over here.
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Yes, you look like a librarian over there.
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Now, Kody does say outside of the house, they show him leaving
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Sidetrack, sidetrack, the Meri Kay convertible.
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We did receive a comment from someone on one of our recent
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episodes saying that when Kody was talking about his marketing
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vehicle, like, oh, he got this car from marketing, we were
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like, what the hell? Like what is he marketing?
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And they were saying that Even so today we know about Christine
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pyramid scheme products like they sell the like pink drink
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that makes you lose weight. And it's like, well y'all look
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clothing. So she was like Hawking all this
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And what's funny is at the time when we get forward in the
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seasons that what she's wearing on the show, it's like, who on
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who in their right mind would buy this?
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Like, no idea. But apparently at this time,
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Kody and Meri were already part of an MLM selling like water,
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some sort of water. I don't know.
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Some sort of? Potion.
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Potion drink, drank it a drank, Yeah.
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That's just to solve all your problems.
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And this is where he obtained this gorgeous vehicle.
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I don't know, I. And that this is not 100% proof.
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I'm just saying that it's a reminder that they are an MLM
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family. It's very entrenched in like the
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Mormon culture in like so many
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or not, are like, oh, I buy these wraps and I sell them from
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home or I have parties that are like Tupperware parties, but
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it's shittier shit than Tupperware.
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Like a lot of them are doing these things.
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So Meri and Kody were probably
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got this car as a, what did you call it, a like?
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A little a moose bouche. Here's your bonus for selling a
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bunch of shit to people that don't need it and it doesn't do
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anything. So thanks for the pro tip.
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Not sure that we believe it is
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mapping so I'm not mad about that.
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There is also a lot of wind happening in this moment, a lot
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of wind and a lot of Kody forehead and hair.
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Yeah, next to this pink copper
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blowing his luscious locks. He just looked like he was on
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the cover of a novel, a romance novel.
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Kody says he is going to sit her
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of surrogacy from Robyn. He's going to push her to a
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decision and he uses push over
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He's a pusher. Yeah, he's a pusher.
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Pusher. Yeah.
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And this totally triggered me into paying Uber attention,
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paying a lot of attention to the
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how he's talking about it. And he is such a pusher.
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He's going to push her. He is a pusher, just like in
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Mean Girls. The pusher, The drug.
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He's like Katty Herring. He's a pusher.
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Oh boy. Meri is having mixed emotions,
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but Kody thinks that they need
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He is aggressive in this moment and he kind of has his like
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hands up and he is talking to the camera very passionately and
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the wind is just wafting the hair and they should have just
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sat him down for an interview moment.
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I don't understand when they catch him in these weird outside
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of the wives house moments. It's odd because they're trying
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to catch him in his feels, right?
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And they do. And they do.
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And it's very of the time, like reality shows used to do this,
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like real time interviews, and
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of it because people haven't had
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their narrative and like decide what they're going to say.
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It's really kind of more in the moment.
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It is a little unfortunate when the wind is blowing and it's
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like distracting almost but. Showing his baby vampire
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hairline. Oh, yeah, yeah, that hairline.
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Yeah. There's this moment then where I
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think Meri and Kody might be on the couch or Meri's just being
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interviewed in in a like, moment
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about how the first thing she has to do is decide if she
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wants to have another baby. I'm like, what the hell.
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Like, duh. You know, I think I just was so
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bored of that all that I the next thing that I wrote down is
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that they're in their red convertible and they're talking
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about the pressure and the guilt
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big trips for one wife. There's a moment where Meri is,
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they're asking Meri a question.
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She's being prompted for something after Kody's talking
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first thing she has to decide is if she wants to have another
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baby. Duh.
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Like, of course that's the first thing you have to decide.
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And like, she's making it seem like, you know, before the in
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vitro and before she decides if Robyn's going to be a surrogate
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for her, she needs to decide if she wants to have another baby.
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And I'm like, haven't we heard
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this like 75 times? And doesn't that just make
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sense? We're literally beating a dead
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horse. It's.
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So, oh God, yeah. And then the wives are on the
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couch talking about Meri going
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And talking about jealousy about
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Meri and Kody are in their red
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driving and their hair is wafting in the wind and they are
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talking about their, you know,
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the trip. And Meri says that she feels
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guilty and she didn't know how
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because she was so excited, but she also didn't want to show
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all of the excitement because of the other wives.
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And then Kody says he feels pressure from the other wives
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when he gives a large gift. And then they cut to the couch
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and there's all the other wives,
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the opposite. They're all saying that they
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feel really happy for her and good for her and that she
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deserves this. Robyn says she's not jealous,
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Janelle says she's not jealous, and then Christine says, well,
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I'm not jealous. But then immediately afterwards,
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I thought, you know, where's my trip?
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Where am I going to go? Next.
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Yeah. And it's like, well, that.
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Amen. I mean, that's what I would
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think too. I'd be like, well, of course I'm
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not jealous of her, but I would be going.
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Well, yeah. When's my trip?
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Like where am I going? Yeah, tit for tat.
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Yeah. And that's what Kody's worried
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about, because Kody says that some polygamists don't do
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anything because it raises an expectation and it's just too
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much pressure. Can you imagine just living your
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life this like boring ass basic life because your husband is
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saying, oh, there's too much pressure.
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If I do that for you, then I'll have to one up or do the next
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thing for the next wife. And like you're doling out
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treats or something to your wives, like you're giving them a
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little, I don't know, it's like.
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It's a scoreboard. You have to treat everyone
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equally. And they were just saying in the
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We would share our jewelry, our charms.
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Yeah, they wouldn't. Be able to share a charm.
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Yeah, and now it's like, oh, tit for tat with trips.
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So we'd rather not take trips so that we don't have to pay for
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another trip. Like, can you just imagine how
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do something then. Or if they do anything, it's got
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Like, yeah. And I think even referenced in
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And oftentimes it entails like Kody's hitting the road for a
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work thing, so Christine will join or they'll do like an
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overnight camping thing to like an hour drive away.
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Like they don't take real vacations on the regular.
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And I'm sure this is an element of it is because you'd have to
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Well, Meri used to go on Kody's overnight work trips all the
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time. And then Janelle would be left
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that she just can't believe how irresponsible it would be and
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how Meri would just drop a job and just like quit her job to go
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Like what?
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I just can't imagine that I'm a,
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a job, I have it for a long time
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fault where it's like, girl, they don't have loyalty to you.
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Like, what the fuck are you doing?
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But I feel that way when I start
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I'm starting it because I feel
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and I try to make it work. And Janelle's very much the same
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way. And she makes comments about
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that. So yeah.
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Yeah, definitely creating some
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gifts, because normally you're
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and you're probably really excited about it because you're
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hopefully doing it for the right
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genuinely enthusiastic and excited about bestowing your
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loved one with something or taking them somewhere.
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So it would be so weird to be like, oh God, if I do this for
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Meri, then I don't have to do it
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And it's like, Oh my God. Well, it would be like, you
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know, I'm going on a vacation soon with my husband and it's
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over my birthday. And I brought up tonight.
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I said, oh, we can celebrate my birthday when we get back over
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the weekend. Which I'm like, I don't mean
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celebrate like plan a party. I mean, like, OK, we could stay
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up late and watch a movie and be
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do. And it would be like him being
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like, oh, God, you know, now I
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because Chris is our third. And like, what am I going to do
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for Chris now? Oh God no.
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That is funny, like to go on a
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then be like when I get back we can celebrate my birthday.
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And so I did say that. I did say it, but I didn't mean
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like celebrate my birthday when we get back, like a big
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shindig. I meant like, well, we'll be
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getting back a couple days after my birthday, so.
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And it's going to be the weekend.
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So we can do like an at home little friends, stay up late.
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Silly night. Yeah.
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Which is my favorite thing to do now because I'm old.
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You're old. I'm old.
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You said it, not me. You're old now.
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We cut to Cancun. Well, we cut to Mexico.
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The airport did have a word Cancun somewhere on it.
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So I'm assuming they flew into Cancun.
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And Meri says they usually do an all inclusive, but this time
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they're renting a condo and they did pick up this red convertible
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Got to have a convertible. And it's funny because it's
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like, I don't want to pick on them for having a convertible in
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And then of course, when Kody was outside of Meri's house
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earlier, with the wind blowing, the top was down and it was
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like, dude, it's like a hurricane without the rain and
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losing his hair because he's drives all these convertibles
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all the time and the wind is just literally ripping his hair
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out and it's just slowly moving his hairline back.
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I don't know. Oh.
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Lord. Well, they show up.
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Meri and Kody show up at this condo at night.
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And it's kind of funny because when they're walking in, Meri
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points up and then on the roof or on the ceiling of the
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exterior of the place is like a gecko or like a lizard, like
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scurrying. And she's like, oh, my favorite.
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I mean, I would be like, that's cool.
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And then I'd be like, close the fucking door and.
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I would try to catch it. Yeah, you would.
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You would. One of the first trips that Dave
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and I ever went on to Mexico, I let a stray cat got into our
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room and I was like feeding it
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said not to do when it came in
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were trying to get it out of our
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Darling. I shouldn't say straight, it was
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part of the resort. They had these cats that they
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fed and took care of it. They had like a cat area with
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cat trees and stuff outside but they were outdoor cats and one
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of them came in and my husband's
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This story just keeps getting better and better.
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Oh boy. After arriving at the condo,
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they go out to the backside of
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view, the ocean view. Unfortunately, it's night time
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and it's like pitch dark, so they can't really see the ocean,
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but they can hear the ocean. They can smell the ocean.
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And Kody says that he could spit
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Right next to the ocean. They make that very clear,
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right? There at this point, I took note
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of how weird Meri and Kody speak
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There's just this underlying thing with them where it seems
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like they're not even close in a
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Maybe it's that they're they've been close for too long and now
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they're no longer close or something.
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Because there's something about the way they talk where I feel
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like Meri almost has to clarify and correct yourself and
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explain yourself at like every turn.
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And Kody does this thing where he's almost like talking at her
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and then also in his own way tries to, if he says something's
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sphere. And it's like, why are you
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repeating yourself ad nauseam in different ways to your spouse?
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actually in love and stuff, I don't see them doing a lot of
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like over explaining to each other.
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It's like they get each other. And I don't know if maybe I'm
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just idealistic because I'm single and I've let you know,
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like alienated everybody out of my life.
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That could be a potential mate, but I'm like, you know, I just
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explain myself all the time. I guess I do sound like a single
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would probably be like all I do is explain myself to.
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Them I over explain myself so much, but it also is a symptom
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they're in a rough patch in their marriage or if they're
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rediscovering each other, because that is part of marriage
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other and coming together at different parts of your life.
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And you do go apart and come back together, like there are
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different phases in your relationship.
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So maybe they are kind of having to relearn each other after
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everything with Robyn coming in and a new baby being introduced
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to the family and. And Meri being neglected.
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And Meri being sorely neglected. It just felt to me like they
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don't talk. This is me.
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I don't know if projecting is the right word, but it feels to
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me like they don't communicate on a regular basis.
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It's almost like the way they talk to each other is.
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I understand what you're talking about, about the rediscovery of
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of a person, but it seems to me more just like we don't speak on
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you of how I talk. Like it's just weird.
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I can see where you're coming from there.
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And I'll say also as somebody who has had two kids, that there
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having a baby and integrating a new child into your family and
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reevaluate your relationship and like things shift and change.
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And so I can't imagine having that happen within a family
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dynamic, but it not being your baby.
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And so this external force is changing your life, whether you
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like it or not, for better, for worse.
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And now you're having to rediscover that person, but it's
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I just can't imagine all of the. External like pressures from
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that that makes sense. It's horrible, like even in your
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it's not even your baby and then you maybe are getting resentful
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because they're spending more time elsewhere and then coming
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She lost her job, she's gone through a move, she's viewing
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life differently. So they're in a rediscovery
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here, I would say, and I think that's probably where this trip
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is good for them. But we'll see.
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But yes, yes. Yeah, a good idea in theory.
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In theory. To step away and.
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Actually liked each other. And this is The thing is, I
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think the underlying bit is like, I feel like they're
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talking to each other like they don't.
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I'm maybe I'm jumping to too dramatic of a conclusion.
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No, like it's an obligation. Yes.
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There's an element of like, they don't even sometimes seem
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organically friendly. It's weird.
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I don't. Yeah.
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But you know, hey, once again, like if someone was talking to
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And take your bags back and leave.
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Like, bye. So I don't know.
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Yeah, but when you scramble your DNA with somebody, things get
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complicated. And yes, he's scrambled his DNA
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lots of different places. His DNA has been all over the
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place. Yeah, yeah.
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Oh, God. So then we got to the next
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morning and they're looking at the view of from their balcony
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They are literally on the shore. The ocean looks beautiful, the
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And Meri says that she wants to go down and play.
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And Kody says, well, we need to leave because we have plans.
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I was like, OK, Kody. Kody's the buzzkill.
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They've got plans. They're going to Cua Cuba.
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I wrote it phonetically here Cua Cuba to see the pyramids.
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The sign was COBA, so whatever that is, I am.
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Unfortunately I'm not multilingual.
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I barely speak English. Well, I actually do speak.
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Oh God, don't say this you guys. You have to give her a hard time
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She speaks, but that's why I'm like, this is so weird to me
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because I wrote it phonetically like how you would write it if
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because I looked at the sign and I was like, wait, what?
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Because they said Q ah. Yeah, it might be Q ah.
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Q Ah, yeah, yeah. And they're going to go see the
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pyramids and Meri has on capris, like brown capris and a
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three quarter length top underneath a short sleeve top.
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like, girl, you are going to be sweaty Betty.
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What an actual fuck. Yeah, she's South of the border
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going to a pyramid where you, yeah, are probably going to
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climb the pyramid. One of my biggest issues
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whenever I have gone to Playa del Carmen Cancun area is that
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That condensation builds up in
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the floors are usually like slick tiles and we have to lay
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towels down everywhere. You're going to slip and fall on
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your ass. So I just some like, what in the
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fuck are you doing wearing three
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All of these layers and you're
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the pyramid. It's so she can take those
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layers off later because we do
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Meri. Later.
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We do. We do.
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We do. Yeah, we get to see some
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cleaves. Yeah, don't we?
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They do say they're going to go see this pyramid and then
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they're going to explore some caves.
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They give us some bullet points as they leave the condo.
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So rewind on an adventure and we're wearing way too many
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clothes. OK, Yeah.
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Yeah, Then we come back to Vegas
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they're leaving the house, they're getting ready to go
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somewhere. There's some back and forth
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between couch moments and then
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Christine talk about how they are going to take their real
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estate licensing exam. I had to make sure to put the
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word licensing in there because Kimber was like, what was this
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exam called? And I'm like a real estate exam.
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I'm. Like, no, they said something
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else in there. What was the word that they
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said? Licensing very important.
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Yes, Yes. So there's also, like I said,
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there's these couch moments where the three wives that are
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not in Mexico are, you know, being interviewed and Robyn is
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wearing a purple shirt. Well, how about we start with
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you talking about what Janelle's
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That sounds good. Oh.
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My God I instantly was like what
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Again. I've been saying it a lot.
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Janelle is wearing a black silk,
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Let's not even give her the fact
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It's probably satin. It's probably plastic button up
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and black pants. Yes.
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Well, I do think it was not silk
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was velvet and then they did another shot and I'm like, oh,
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that's not velvet, that's imitation silk or whatever.
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Satin and so it's an all black
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black and there's a lot of Sheen
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nook and cranny and bulbous body
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Every time that I've tried to wear like a satin shirt, it just
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shows every little crease and every little like wrinkle even
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in the shirt. So I've just never really been
25:48
bold enough. I've bought them and been
25:50
regretted it. Now you're sitting on a couch
25:54
for an interview and you're wearing an all satin black
25:57
shirt. It almost just looks like Hugh
26:00
Hefner's sheets. Like what I imagine Hugh
26:03
Hefner's bed sheets would be like.
26:05
Let's not, I don't know. Like when I think of black
26:08
satin, I think like, oh, somebody that's in their early
26:12
20s and is trying to be sexy and
26:17
Janelle doesn't give you those
26:19
No, no, no, no. And perhaps I am projecting from
26:24
my past. When I think of black satin, I
26:26
think of womanizer music video
26:29
I think in the bed there's like a black seat and young and
26:32
trying to be sexy. Yeah, OK, OK.
26:35
I I smell what you're stepping
26:36
Yeah. On the other side of the couch
26:39
from Janelle is Robyn and she is
26:43
I shouldn't say bright, a purple
26:47
colored purple shirt. And I was wondering if it was a
26:51
collection of my sister wives closet jewelry.
26:54
But then upon closer examination
26:59
only one. What is that called?
27:02
Chain. Chain.
27:02
Thank you. So it's one chain and then like
27:06
a smorgasbord of pieces. Like a bunch of baubles.
27:09
Just like hanging on it. It was so bad.
27:13
It was aggressive. It was very.
27:14
Aggressive. And I'm like, honey, if you're
27:15
trying to show off your goods that you're trying to sell on
27:18
the show, maybe you don't have
27:21
tits on this like, ugly purple
27:23
There are so many short like snaps to and from couch and real
27:30
life. This entire episode is a
27:33
mixture. So much so that I'm like, I
27:35
can't even write down like couch
27:39
like interview moment real life because it was back and forth
27:42
the entire episode. And so I noticed Christine's
27:47
little red nosed yes in this. Yeah, her nose is so red.
27:52
Yeah, very red. Like the tip?
27:54
Yep. It's almost like there was like
27:56
a line from face to the bulb and
27:59
bottom. And that was all I could for
28:02
her. I was like, oh, honey, then you
28:05
know, we're not in the area where people would do a full
28:08
beat for a sit down interview, a
28:12
their face. I know what you mean.
28:13
But you're like looking at me like I isn't.
28:16
That sad that we're watching a
28:19
like don't worry about putting
28:22
like make your nose the same color as your face like this
28:25
isn't. Hard.
28:26
I can't believe that they didn't
28:28
something for. Her very distracted.
28:30
It's a little weird. I mean a camera person.
28:33
Or a director. You would be like, Oh my God,
28:36
your face. You look like Rudolph the Red
28:37
News reindeer. Well when did like HD like come
28:41
into play? Because I noticed in the last
28:44
episode that Kody had a bunch of
28:48
looked like pick Marks and then Christina had like a full on
28:52
scratch on her nose that was bright red.
28:56
And it was HD, right? We're watching a big screen
29:00
television now and seeing this
29:04
they didn't have that concern.
29:07
first few seasons I saw back in the day, it was on a big TV and
29:11
I want to say it was 16-9 like
29:14
Yeah, I think it's just because they're polygamous and the
29:17
production company sucks, to be honest, because I don't know
29:20
why, because Kody also, yes, for
29:23
Mark on his nose. Like, almost like, yeah, almost
29:26
like an open source thing where it's like, why is this not,
29:30
first of all, being taken care
29:32
cover it up for an interview? Yeah, I don't know.
29:35
We also just have like crazy beauty standard expectations
29:38
nowadays that that's like a whole other conversation.
29:40
But this is something else. This isn't like we're holding
29:43
them to a beauty standard. I don't think it's that.
29:45
It's just a presentation thing, like you're on television, you
29:50
would think maybe you would care
29:52
Yeah, these people are definitely not being like
29:54
Kardashian eyes, right? Like we're and that's not the
29:57
expectation. That's not the expectation.
29:59
Down for TV Yeah like why isn't there one person on crew that's
30:02
like, they don't even have to be
30:04
like, I've got like 6 powders,
30:06
You know, I wish I didn't care.
30:08
I wish I didn't, but I do. And I look at this and I'm like,
30:15
on that nosey nose. Yeah, it's just interesting that
30:21
not 4, but amongst these three women that there isn't a little
30:24
like, hey, like, let me help you out, girlfriend.
30:26
Like you kind of look like shit, like true.
30:28
I would be like, honey, let's I would probably just be instead
30:35
You know, like if I needed your help, I'd be like, can we get
30:37
ready beforehand? Like that's normal.
30:39
Like you've taken cute pictures of me out at the pool where I'm
30:43
no makeup, like hair up messy, but you make sure that like the
30:46
lighting is good and you'll be like, I'll move this way or
30:49
whatever to make it cute. Like no makeup look which is
30:53
totally fine, whatever, but you still help a sister out which I
30:57
appreciate. Sisters should help sisters out.
31:00
They do a weird cut to Will Saul
31:07
necklace that Robyn is wearing.
31:10
They do like get a little interview in her house and she's
31:16
And it's not even the one from the interview.
31:19
It's another necklace. And he's like playing with it,
31:28
I had to stop wearing necklaces for so long.
31:30
I've just been able to start wearing them again and they'll
31:41
product placement because any mother knows that that could
31:45
quickly turn into a tourniquet, A choking mechanism, like a
31:51
tourniquet. You do not wear necklaces around
31:54
It's a big no no. Cracked me up.
31:56
That is true that in this episode, not only is there couch
32:10
Robyn, there is a few moments where she's she's like cutting
32:17
lighting is very bright and she looks wonderful.
32:19
And then the next moment, they're back on the couch
32:23
talking about the real estate exam again.
32:25
Now we're back talking about real estate.
32:27
Sorry if you forgot after our tangents.
32:29
What did you know? So they were on like weird stuff
32:34
Yes, it's important for Janelle to get started because they are
32:38
desperate for the income. Now, she doesn't say desperate,
32:41
I'm saying desperate, but she's very much mindful of the fact
32:44
that, like, they need more money.
32:46
Yeah, she says. We need as many sources of
32:48
income as possible. We're such a large family, so
32:51
many people, and they can all contribute in their own ways.
32:54
Except for Robyn. She can't contribute a penny.
32:56
Oh, except for those lovely designs.
32:58
Did you forget about those lovely designs in her notebook
33:05
Oh boy. Now we cut back to Mexico.
33:09
Mexico. We're getting whiplash this
33:11
whole episode. For real.
33:12
For real. Literally.
33:14
Apologies. Yeah, Kody and Meri are climbing
33:24
Like, sorry about that, you guys.
33:26
Seriously. And it's so great because
33:29
nothing's really happening. Like they're going up the side
33:33
Mexico. They're going up the ruins.
33:35
Up the ruins, excuse me, I want to be respectful.
33:37
And there's Kody going up, Kody going up and the cameras below
33:47
Before we notice that he even goes Oh my.
33:50
God. Because I sweat my pants.
33:53
I sweat my pants, Meri. Sweat my pants, Meri.
33:56
And then he literally puts one hand under each cheek to like,
34:07
like like a girl. He doesn't pull anything.
34:10
No women. No, like, OK, no, I'm not.
34:13
So women, when they get boob sweat underneath the crack of
34:16
their boob, like if you were to lift your boob up, yeah, you
34:19
would see the like line of boob sweat.
34:21
Sure. He lifts his cheeks.
34:22
Up as if you're only going to see a crack of sweat.
34:26
Yeah, no, it is the entire butt soaked.
34:28
Whole butt drenched through. It literally looks like he sat
34:36
himself to that point because there's nowhere else on his body
34:41
something? I think he probably did Bizarre.
34:46
we don't know the ball slit. Listen, honey, I've been around
34:51
a lot of balls, OK? And I have never spent time with
34:54
a man who has sweat so bad that his entire butt is wet through
34:59
his khakis. OK.
35:01
But then like nothing else is happening like that doesn't make
35:03
any sense. He is wearing long sleeves
35:05
though. Like why is he wearing a long
35:08
sleeve shirt? And it might be linen?
35:10
It looks like maybe a white linen blue striped shirt?
35:13
Like he's going back to his roots with the striped shirts.
35:17
But why the fuck is he wearing
35:21
khakis and they're like thick khakis And then you got Meri in
35:25
her three quarter length shirt
35:29
top with the capris that are dark brown.
35:32
I'm so confused by their wardrobe choice here because
35:36
they wear tank tops over short
35:40
So why is she wearing more clothes in Mexico than at home?
35:46
I'm baffled. I it doesn't make sense and the
35:49
sweaty pants also do not make sense because I've never seen
35:52
anything like that in my life.
35:55
joke if it wasn't real though,
35:58
Because I think he realized the cameras were beneath them and
36:00
that if he didn't make a joke it
36:04
would be no explanation, right?
36:05
So he had to point it out as like a self deprecating thing.
36:11
sweat because I've never seen anything like that in my life.
36:18
I have never had my entire butt of my pants drenched.
36:21
Like that's insane. Anyway, we've gone on about this
36:26
think he made a joke about it to distract from the fact that
36:31
Did he piss himself? I'm not saying that piss
36:33
himself. No.
36:34
They get to the top of the pyramid.
36:37
Moving on. And all I see is trees going on
36:43
forever. Trees and flat land and flat and
36:48
Like it's so weird to not say any mountains.
36:50
And I'm like, you know, not everywhere has mountains, but
36:54
okay. He's just such an idiot
36:57
sometimes. Just like when he sweat his
36:58
pants so. Yeah.
36:59
Now, after they come down from the pyramid, now, is there
37:02
anything that you wanted to talk about about this pyramid
37:04
experience honey, other than Kody's sweaty pants?
37:06
Sweaty balls, sweaty balls, vetted balls.
37:09
I don't think it's fast that I think he has really sweaty
37:13
balls. But anyway, we'll move on.
37:15
So no, after they come down the pyramid, because no one cares
37:20
that they went up it, they met up with two tour guides.
37:24
Oh, they're going to meet up with two tour guides.
37:26
Kody make sure to point out in the parking lot like that
37:29
fucking matters. And so they go down to the
37:33
parking lot where they meet Natalie and some guy.
37:36
I didn't catch his name and I didn't care.
37:40
No, we missed his name. And Kody introduces himself and
37:43
talks about how he took I took my other wife to Chitzu Nitsa.
37:54
He said he has a wife. Oh he has another wife.
37:56
Oh and he's like I have 4 wives. Yeah, they the tour guides are
38:12
anything other than the shock and awe of trying to reveal his
38:15
extra wives. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.
38:21
know, he's a showboat. So now they're gonna have to ask
38:26
wife. It was really.
38:28
Weird. Sorry about that ladies and
38:29
gentlemen. I have an aversion to obtuse
38:31
people. So they change into swimsuits,
38:38
They're going to go into a cave with a lake.
38:41
They're going into a cenote. A cenote which?
38:43
Is like an underground lake. I've been in a cenote before,
38:47
it's pretty cool. Yeah, I would love to do that.
38:52
They're going to propel into this big gaping open hole and go
39:00
Kody, I think even uses the word spelunking or something to that
39:04
nature. And I was very excited because
39:07
The cenote that we went into the first time, that was very dark.
39:13
Like you can't see the bottom,
39:15
like you can't tell what's in the water underneath you.
39:17
And that's my nightmare. It's nightmare fuel to me.
39:20
Literally, we had to jump into
39:23
So there was like a rope swing
39:28
and then you'd swim to the edge and swim to the ladder and
39:31
climb back up. And I did it because I'm like,
39:35
I'm here. I have to do it.
39:37
I have to experience this. I can't be chicken about this.
39:40
I did it and then there were other cenotes that I've been to.
39:46
We've been to Mexico multiple times.
39:47
I love Mexico. It's, I don't know, I love it.
39:51
We've been so many times and the
39:55
time that we were there, there
39:57
would like nibble the dead skin off of your body.
40:00
And I'm really scared of fish.
40:04
the entire time. They would like nibble on your
40:07
toes to get the dead skin off and it was terrifying to me.
40:12
OK, I would recommend it. I would recommend trying it.
40:15
It is gorgeous. It's really cool.
40:17
It's something that's unique and.
40:20
And experience to be had. Yes, of course.
40:23
The big open hole, the cenote,
40:28
from like the middle of the gaping hole.
40:31
And Meri is getting ready to go down and she is showing so much
40:38
skin. Her titties were out.
40:41
There were boobs, there were arms, there were other body
40:46
parts. I was just surprised because
40:49
usually like even when they went
40:52
wearing like her, you know, three quarter length and her
40:56
capris. But then she's going to The Cave
40:59
and she's like, let me put on my
41:02
yellow book and not bikini, which is not true.
41:05
She was not wearing that, but she was wearing like a normal
41:07
person swimsuit. She's wearing like a tankini
41:09
with a skirt bottom. But I mean, I saw her thighs, I
41:12
saw her calves. I mean, this is not usual for
41:15
me. For her, it is very revealing.
41:17
Yes, the layperson, it's probably an average like tankini
41:23
skirt, bottom swimsuit, but the view because they're looking
41:28
down on her right. So it's very revealing.
41:33
It's showing all the cleavage,
41:36
going down and they're rappelling down and she's going
41:39
like super, super slow and Kody's like he and he's like
41:43
just heave ho going down that the rope.
41:46
When they get to where the water
41:48
term for where the water is. This is the water.
41:50
Yeah. They are swimming.
41:52
They have goggles on to look at the fish.
41:55
I'm wondering if the light that they have down there is really
41:58
from production, like from a camera, or if it's normally lit
42:01
up. You said it was dark in the one
42:03
you've been in, or the first one, or?
42:05
Yeah, the production crew probably had like some sort of
42:09
light. Because they had an underwater
42:10
camera, and so they were lighting things up for the shot.
42:14
And they were sitting in tubes
42:16
Marrying Kody. Yeah.
42:17
Being all like, oh, we're floating down the river.
42:19
But they weren't floating anywhere.
42:20
They were just floating in a cave.
42:22
Well, and Kody says that somebody there had a snorkeling
42:26
gear. Yes.
42:27
So they were passing that around.
42:29
And I'm like, no, somebody there
42:32
borrow them. Yeah.
42:33
So they were passing goggles around to look at everything and
42:37
you can't probably see too much,
42:41
I wouldn't think but. It seemed kind of throwaway to
42:44
me, like I was like, OK, whatever.
42:46
We're passing goggles around. Too many details.
42:48
We don't care that you're wearing goggles.
42:49
Yeah. So then to leave this cenote,
42:54
they need to climb back up the
42:59
A letter. And this is Meri's opportunity
43:02
to tell us that she really wants
43:06
She wants to do it on her own.
43:09
And they have to tell us that this isn't a normal ladder.
43:12
You can't climb up it like a normal ladder.
43:14
You have to go up it on the side.
43:16
So you're like holding on to it almost like a rope with the
43:21
rungs, like straight out from your body instead of being fully
43:28
on the ladder, if that makes sense.
43:30
And I'm sure you could do it the
43:33
probably saying it's easier because you're wet.
43:36
So it's probably easier to have,
43:39
rope instead of on these slippery because they were
43:42
metal. Like the rungs were like a metal
43:46
So I'm sure it's because you're a slippery when wet.
43:51
Yeah. But they had to point that out.
43:53
And Kody gets to the very top
43:55
and he's like, it's exhausting.
43:56
He points like down at her and he's like, it's exhausting.
44:00
I just need to let you know. Meri.
44:02
Yeah. So she just hoofs it up there.
44:10
of the world. Like, will she make it?
44:12
Yeah, Well, she did make it. What a shock.
44:15
She climbed up a ladder. I mean, my God.
44:18
But my favorite part of the whole thing was that we got
44:21
another amazing shot of her cleavage.
44:22
There was a lot of booby. There was a lot of booby
44:25
happening. Maybe amazing isn't the right
44:27
word, but a shot. But she probably, I think she
44:30
had to pause a couple of times to like catch her breath.
44:33
And so they get these like shots of her where it looks like she's
44:39
And so they use this for a cutaway shot for commercial and,
44:50
realizing that he loves Meri for her adventurous side.
44:53
Yeah, Like he's just realizing that she's.
44:56
Adventurous known that she was adventurous to be married to her
45:05
You go camping with the other two wives that you've had for
45:10
forever and Meri and you go skiing and have gone to Mexico
45:20
It did seem like, once again, like, do they even know each
45:24
other? There's just this underlying
45:26
thing. Yeah, he.
45:27
Uses the word realizing. He doesn't really think about
45:30
her, I don't think. Yeah, I'm.
45:32
Realizing I love her for this. I'm realizing that my wife's
45:36
adventurous but. She gets up there and he's like,
45:41
Like he's congratulating like, one of his kids for finishing a
45:45
marathon or something. Yeah.
45:47
Yeah. So that was done, thank God.
45:50
And then we go back to Vegas and Robyn, Janelle and Christine are
46:00
food. I was wondering if it was the
46:02
name of the business because it was literally big letters like
46:09
I was like, that's funny that I can see that sign, but then the.
46:13
Loco. Yeah, but like the homemade
46:15
Greek food, I'm like, well, what
46:18
business is. And I'm also like, God, these
46:20
people pick such interesting places to go because it reminds
46:23
me of the place where Christine went to have a conversation
46:26
with Robyn, where it was like this building that looked like
46:29
it was in a strip mall and like could have been a Chili's or a
46:33
tgi Friday's. And they just took the sign down
46:35
and made it something else. And this was the same thing,
46:37
homemade Greek food, like, okay,
46:40
To be fair, those are usually the best restaurants to go to
46:42
for whatever they're advertising
46:46
Yep, here we go, we got Greek food, Greek restaurant right
46:49
up in here. Homemade Greek food like yeah,
46:52
absolutely, absolutely. So they are at this restaurant
46:55
and I'm assuming for lunch. But from what we've gathered, it
46:59
is post the real estate licensing exam.
47:02
Yep, they're planning to call Kody with the news with the
47:05
results from their real estate
47:10
And so they get him on the speakerphone, which is super
47:13
wonderful. It's always great to have Kody
47:14
on a speakerphone. And this is such a this is such
47:19
a weird exchange and it's very
47:21
It is very funny. So I think Robyn is holding the
47:26
phone. Let's say it's on speaker and
47:29
Janelle's like I passed. And by mind you, between all of
47:35
these things that we're going to
47:39
the other side of the phone being like, hey, or like, yeah,
47:41
who's there? Or like, like, it's like the
47:44
commercials are back in the day.
47:45
Like, can you hear me now? Like, good.
47:47
Like there's like, broken up stuff.
47:49
I sense that Kody's like, trying to put the phone on speaker,
47:54
trying to get some American here.
47:55
Like there's things on both ends that are ridiculous.
47:57
So we're just getting a bunch of like, misunderstandings, not
48:01
understandings and ridiculousness.
48:02
So you do Janelle, and I'll do Christine.
48:05
OK, so Janelle starts with I passed.
48:10
I didn't, Christine, I didn't. No.
48:17
Surprise, surprise. Surprise.
48:19
So now he can't hear what they're saying, so Janelle has
48:29
And he's like, oh, Christine. I didn't.
48:32
I didn't. I didn't pass.
48:36
I didn't pass. Can you hear me now?
48:40
Yeah, he's. Like what was that?
48:43
What was that Christine? And it's like Janelle's like I
48:48
like, I didn't. And it's like, Oh my God, he.
48:51
Keeps saying Congrats to both of them.
48:52
Congrats, Congrats. Christine's like, I didn't pass.
48:57
Yes, Christine does have to say that she failed the test
49:02
multiple times. Oh yeah, loudly in a restaurant.
49:05
It's so good because. Her I failed.
49:07
Yeah, her level of like this is okayness dwindles, which with
49:12
each time that she repeats it,
49:16
And then eventually by the end
49:19
failed. Like it's so good.
49:21
Kody's response is like the best.
49:23
Yes, it's. So funny.
49:24
Yes. Such a dad response.
49:27
Yep, Congratulations, Janelle.
49:32
Bummer. Bummer, bummer.
49:36
Very much a bummer for Christine.
49:37
Oh that was funny though. We are going to shell Ha to play
49:43
with Dolphins now. Playing with the Dolphins.
49:46
Meri and Kody in Shell ha. Shell ha.
49:50
Well, they have this really weird and awkward conversation
49:55
about Natalie and how cute she
50:00
Cute. Oh, she's so cute.
50:03
And then they cut to the couch
50:06
says that Meri needs to be done bringing women into the plural
50:11
of it all. She needs to be reined in, she
50:14
said. She needs to be reined in and
50:16
they show this really long and
50:20
Natalie after she gets out of the cenote.
50:24
Like she. Just slow motion.
50:27
And she's rubbing her back like really slow and they make it
50:30
like look like it's a really long time.
50:33
Cuz Meri's in that swimsuit and Natalie is as well.
50:36
So you see a lot of skin on skin, a lot of women touching
50:40
each other, and it's literally
50:44
It's just in slow motion. They're trying to make something
50:47
out of nothing and Kody is like,
50:50
It was just a joke. We're not open to it, not open
50:53
to another marriage. As if you'd have a chance with
50:55
her. Right, as if she was interested
50:57
in any sense. Yeah, definitely not.
51:00
But this is also part of their
51:03
It's like we're not in an open
51:05
Not interested. OK, well, were you saying that
51:07
when you met Robyn? Because it's there is maybe a
51:11
difference between being in an
51:14
to taking on another wife. They would make that clear in
51:17
the past. Oh, we're not swingers.
51:19
We're not bringing other people into our bedrooms, but we might
51:22
always be open for another wife.
51:23
Oh, I'm not open for another wife.
51:25
OK, Kody. The back and forth, back and
51:28
forth and not clear. Dragging in this like innocent
51:36
some potential weirdness here. It's like, God Natalie, all she
51:40
did was give you a fucking tour and show you a good time in a
51:45
nice manner, not a dirty 1 and now you're doing this to her.
51:48
All she said is get ready to go in the giant hole and, you know,
51:56
respectful. This is another worst nightmare
51:59
of mine. Kody and Meri are going to swim
52:04
with the dolphins. Oh what?
52:06
What's the noise they make? I was not expecting that to be
52:18
Did I just make everybody deaf? I don't think so.
52:21
I think I think you're good. I think you're good And and and
52:24
and. If it's bad I'll just replace it
52:32
A harpy. A mythical creature?
52:35
Oh, I thought. Harpies were just mean women,
52:38
like a harpy, like you know. Oh no, A harpy is like a dolphin
52:50
Them and then ruins though. See a harpy?
52:52
Yes. OK, I just didn't know all the
52:56
Oh my. God.
52:57
But a mythical creature? Oh, so now, honey, when Kody and
53:05
dolphins, why is this triggering for you?
53:07
I. Have a very, very hard stance on
53:13
Don't like them, I don't like them at all #1 I grew up in the
53:19
era where like every girl loved dolphins.
53:22
Dolphins were their favorite animals and every basic bitch
53:25
loved a dolphin and had dolphin memorabilia of some sort in
53:30
their home like glass sculptures or on their necklaces.
53:35
Dolphins were a thing and I have learned many a fact about
53:41
dolphins #1 they are one of the only other mammals that will
53:48
RAPE each other and they will do it to humans and they.
53:59
Holy fact. No, I'm serious.
54:02
They I'm. Going to have to Google this.
54:05
Just to make sure, assault each other.
54:06
OK, OK. They're like one of the only
54:09
other mammals that have a sex for pleasure, and so they
54:16
assault one another for pleasure.
54:18
I did not know this. It is disturbing.
54:21
Dolphins are disturbing. I'm not a fan.
54:25
Oh God. They have been known to nuzzle
54:32
what they're doing. They're smart animals, they're
54:41
We should be scared that they're going to retaliate and they do
54:52
Not doing it to us and then close quarters while we're
54:54
trying to ride on their snoots and they accidentally oops,
54:58
wrong hole. Oops, wrong hole.
55:00
Oh God, how many times do we have to say oops wrong hole on
55:08
dolphins. I'm terrified of sea creatures
55:10
in general. Because they're aliens.
55:12
Obviously, Obviously, obviously they're aliens.
55:15
We don't know a lot about them.
55:17
We can't speak their language. I've heard we.
55:20
Can't speak their language. I've heard, and don't quote me
55:26
studied their cliques and their language of course for a very
55:30
long time and we still don't fully understand it.
55:33
OK. And there are some states where
55:37
it's illegal to try to communicate with a dolphin.
55:41
And why do you think that is? Oh my.
55:43
God. I'm dead.
55:45
Serious, I'm going to have to Google so many things, so
55:49
please. Do because I think that people
55:55
align with me on this after they look into it.
55:59
If all of these vicious things you're saying are truth, then
56:02
yeah, I hate dolphins. Yeah, I'm a dolphin.
56:05
I'm a dolphin truther. Oh my God.
56:09
Let them out of that tiny little like kennel that you have them
56:18
them be free. Let's not fuck with them.
56:21
Let's be done with them. So Meri, she's propped up by one
56:27
around. And then Kody does the same
56:29
thing, but he's got to, you know, flex because he's so cool.
56:32
Yeah, he flexes as it's like pushing him through the air.
56:35
Do you think either one of them are sexually assaulted by a
56:37
dolphin? I guarantee if you ask people,
56:41
have you swam with dolphins, they've been booped in the butt
56:44
hole with a snoot. And it might be an innocent
56:49
little oh, I was trying to get
56:53
You know the legal ambitions of these dolphins.
56:58
I've done research so. The sexual assault between
57:00
dolphins, okay, but the interspecies 1 I don't quite get
57:03
because why would they know or
57:06
private parts? Because they're smart.
57:10
There was a woman that did studies with a dolphin for a
57:13
very long time and it fell in love with her.
57:16
Oh God. This is a true story.
57:18
I feel like I've actually. Heard this before, fell in love
57:21
with her and she was a scientist
57:24
actually had relations with the dolphin and would.
57:29
Jerk. Off the jerk off the dolphin and
57:33
it got close to her and like fell in love with her and then
57:36
when they ended the experiment, the dolphin got so sad that it
57:40
killed itself. It just stopped it like it did
57:46
how? Did the dolphin kill itself?
57:49
It just like starved itself like
57:52
the experiment and they they took her out because obviously
57:56
she is crossing lines and doing all this stuff.
57:59
And so they took her out as like
58:02
experiment and the dolphin just was like died of a broken my
58:06
lover is gone and I'm done for her.
58:10
And there's this. Is really not what I expected to
58:14
And that's why when I saw that they were doing this, I
58:17
literally looked you in the eyes and I said, I don't think I've
58:20
No. And I said please don't.
58:22
I said we're going to have a conversation that I'm not sure
58:27
having this conversation in front of strangers.
58:29
Well, listen, if everything you're saying is true and I can
58:33
find it via an easy Google search and I'm not removing it,
58:36
so we'll see what happens. If you're listening to this,
58:39
that means you could Google it and.
58:40
Watch videos there. You'll go, and there you'll go.
58:43
I've gone down the rabbit hole
58:45
on Oh God dolphins and it's not pretty.
58:48
The dolphin rabbit hole. It's not pretty.
58:50
Oh. God.
58:53
So after Meri and Kody are being
58:57
dolphins, which really it looks like they're just riding on
59:00
them and having a good time, and they actually say they had a
59:02
great time in that they loved it.
59:03
They say they're really tired afterwards, so I don't know what
59:07
really tired. There's a lot of work.
59:11
Kody fell asleep almost instantly.
59:13
Their thighs were really tired. Yeah, Meri just wanted to cuddle
59:20
But Meri and Kody go to dinner
59:24
at a beach Oceanside table. And it actually looked really
59:28
cute. Kody, I think they both said,
59:29
isn't this romantic? This is romantic.
59:32
It did look like somewhere where
59:34
meal. I have to ask, are they
59:38
drinking? Because there are little goblets
59:45
And I'm going you know what? In season 1 when they went on
59:50
their trip they were drinking like there was salt rimmed blah
59:53
blah blah. Meri was like slurring.
59:55
Word yeah, Meri's like, I don't know if I should have a baby.
59:58
Here we are, like however many years later, talking about the
1:00:05
I think they are too and I think
1:00:08
emotional reaction. The way she looks is like so
1:00:11
disheveled when she gets upset.
1:00:13
I have to point out she's wearing white Capri tights and a
1:00:24
Under her outfit. Under her, there's an outfit on
1:00:27
top of this, like white. Oh.
1:00:31
God, it's like she's wearing something that like football
1:00:34
players wear under their jerseys and like, pants.
1:00:37
It's very weird. Weird.
1:00:39
And she's on the beach. Why not wear like a nice flowy
1:00:44
The only thing I can think is that you maybe got an aggressive
1:00:51
Because she started the trip this way.
1:00:52
She started the trip in her capris and long sleeve.
1:00:56
God, these choices of outfit on a vacation are just odd.
1:01:01
They're so odd. And I was thinking maybe she
1:01:03
wanted to wear more layers because of her experience with
1:01:13
Meri a Harpy's going to get her.
1:01:21
She wants to be mounted again.
1:01:27
OK, Kody asks Meri about her thoughts on in vitro.
1:01:34
And you know, Meri does make a
1:01:37
too young to be an empty nester,
1:01:41
family, which I shouldn't say.
1:01:44
I mean, I think this is what we've been following from her is
1:01:47
like, duh, it's a little weird
1:01:50
it's like, well, you already have a family, but I'm playing a
1:01:54
semantics game. Here starting over.
1:01:56
Yeah, we know what she's saying.
1:01:57
She's meaning yeah, starting over.
1:01:59
Yeah, Yeah. She's about to be an empty
1:02:02
nester, which she is young for. They, you know, did have kids in
1:02:11
most people. Like nowadays.
1:02:12
Yes. And to start over, you literally
1:02:27
It's an odd thing for women, especially when like you're
1:02:31
thinking about timing children. And I think there's something to
1:02:42
your grandchildren and you're still with it and spry.
1:02:46
And then, you know, there's something to be said about
1:02:50
enjoying your 20s and early 30s and waiting to have children.
1:02:54
And I think that it just all depends on the person.
1:02:57
And I think it's been very clear for a long time to Meri and to
1:03:05
Yeah. So it's like she's stating these
1:03:09
concluded. Yeah, This is why I think
1:03:12
they're drinking, because she says I'm too young to be an
1:03:16
empty nester but too old to start a family.
1:03:19
And immediately after he says it's OK, whatever you want to
1:03:21
do, but you don't feel like it's
1:03:24
Almost like he's trying to convince her.
1:03:27
Like no, you don't want to do this.
1:03:29
Well, yeah, what I heard from Kody was like, it's OK, whatever
1:03:33
you want to do, but you don't feel like it is right?
1:03:37
Like he my interpretation of that was that he was saying
1:03:41
whatever you want to do is fine,
1:03:44
like it probably isn't OK, like what you're doing.
1:03:46
Right. And it is you kind of they are
1:03:50
drinking. And this conversation is so
1:03:51
stupid because then I shouldn't say stupid.
1:03:53
But then Meri starts crying, and
1:03:56
Aggressively. Like terrible.
1:03:58
Like ugly crying. It's bad.
1:04:02
And she's like, this is stupid.
1:04:04
This is just stupid. And it's like, why are we doing
1:04:08
this? Yeah.
1:04:09
And then Kody's like, you do understand that you not having
1:04:15
You need to know that. You need to know that in your
1:04:18
heart. Yeah, right.
1:04:19
It's like when in all reality, let's be real, the AUB, the cult
1:04:27
for men. It is part of their religious
1:04:29
dogma that the more children men
1:04:33
will have in heaven. That's why he part of the reason
1:04:37
that you want to have at least
1:04:39
this cult is because when you have three wives, you are
1:04:40
guaranteed the next level in heaven.
1:04:42
These people have fucked up ideas.
1:04:44
So for him to say this, it's like a normal person, a person
1:04:48
who's lived a life outside of a cult would be like, well, yeah.
1:04:52
I mean, like, of course it doesn't change your value to not
1:04:55
be able to have more children,
1:04:58
ingrained her whole life that your value is about having
1:05:01
children. And then their cult is literally
1:05:04
like, if you don't have children
1:05:06
Like there's something wrong with you.
1:05:08
It's almost like the way he's saying it is like this.
1:05:10
Well, you should know that you
1:05:11
Like this is it's obvious, right?
1:05:13
And I'm just confirming it. And it's like, no, it's not
1:05:15
obvious. In fact, you probably, if you
1:05:17
were questioned and not being filmed, would say the opposite.
1:05:19
And how many times have you tried to say this to her and
1:05:22
reassure her like you're saying?
1:05:23
Is this the first time that you're saying this to her?
1:05:26
And is that why she's getting so emotional?
1:05:28
And especially if there's alcohol involved and you don't
1:05:35
it's like. May have never literally said
1:05:39
something like this or if has like once or twice like the
1:05:42
reassurance bit is not landing for me because culturally that
1:05:47
Well, and in my mind, I don't think he's actually trying to
1:05:50
reassure her. I think he's trying to convince
1:05:53
her that she doesn't want anymore because he doesn't want
1:05:55
anymore kids with her. With her, yeah, I think that
1:05:58
both of those things are true. So I think it's like this
1:06:01
selfish way of trying to like, let her off the hook, let her
1:06:05
feel better because fuck, I don't want to be doing this with
1:06:10
entanglement for another 18 years.
1:06:12
That's a different connection than you have without a child
1:06:15
SO. Yeah, because he says that like
1:06:18
they have to bring up, well, you were offered from Robyn and
1:06:23
they're talking about Robyn and the offer.
1:06:26
And then that's when Meri is like, no, I would want it to
1:06:30
just magically happen on its own.
1:06:31
She literally says I'd want it to magically happen on its own.
1:06:34
Like she wants it to be
1:06:35
spontaneous and be an act of God
1:06:40
and it's like sticks and it's a happy, healthy pregnancy, which
1:06:45
obviously doesn't seem like it's
1:06:47
And so, you know, he has to bring up the Robyn.
1:06:50
The Robyn bit and after talking about it happening magically,
1:06:55
Meri says if you're looking for an answer, I don't have one.
1:06:59
I don't have an answer. Rewind to the beginning of this
1:07:04
episode where he says he's going
1:07:06
answer and she's saying here, I don't have an answer.
1:07:10
But it feels a little bit evasive, like she doesn't I I
1:07:13
feel like for me as a viewer, I think she's already decided no.
1:07:18
But so we're just doing this rigmarole, the song and dance.
1:07:21
This is where it comes back to
1:07:23
Like, she's not going to go above and beyond to make it
1:07:27
happen by doing in vitro or invasive procedures or having a
1:07:31
surrogate, but she's also not going to prevent it from
1:07:35
happening. And so she can't definitively
1:07:37
say to him, no, it's not going
1:07:41
were to get pregnant naturally
1:07:45
They don't have sex, but yeah.
1:07:49
out on TV and say like, no, I don't want any more kids, I'm
1:07:53
going to go on birth control or I would have an abortion if I
1:07:56
got pregnant because that's against their religion.
1:07:59
And it's not really even in the cards because she's not getting
1:08:01
pregnant. She's only so.
1:08:02
She has to say. And lost the baby.
1:08:05
I mean, you know. Literally, she has to say.
1:08:08
I don't, I don't know. I don't know because when you're
1:08:11
leaving it up to nature, Sky friend, you don't know.
1:08:18
What does he want from her? He keeps pushing her too, which
1:08:20
it's like, shut the fuck up. You're making her cry, you're
1:08:23
making her upset. Like get off it.
1:08:26
On camera, it's a storyline for a show.
1:08:29
I'm going to push her. I'm going to push her.
1:08:31
I don't like to like say abusive, but it feels like
1:08:34
mildly abusive. Like it's mentally totally it's
1:08:38
way in a appropriate. Yeah, I hate it.
1:08:40
So uncomfortable. I think she's been pushed on
1:08:42
this topic so many times that it's probably just exhausting
1:08:46
for her. Even if it's not the emotional
1:08:48
part about not having a baby anymore, it's the emotional part
1:08:51
of like, can we just fucking let
1:08:54
Let it lie where it is? Totally not have an answer.
1:08:57
Because technically with our religion, we can't have an
1:09:01
answer or it would mean that we believe in something that we
1:09:05
shouldn't believe in. Being pregnant and giving birth
1:09:08
is acts of God. You literally like even the fact
1:09:11
that they're talking about surrogacy or the in vitro is
1:09:15
that element of like, wow, they would do that, how unorthodox
1:09:18
or whatever. And it's like, OK, this is
1:09:20
normal stuff now, but whatever.
1:09:22
Then we have a couch moment with the other wives where they are
1:09:31
will go along with any other processes, including Robyn's
1:09:35
surrogacy option. It's a little shocking to me the
1:09:42
it on her own. She doesn't want to like use
1:09:44
Robyn to do it, but she would do it on her own if she could.
1:09:48
And that she would regret passing it up if she didn't try
1:09:51
again. And they all seem like steadfast
1:09:57
say. I was just trying to give her an
1:10:05
totally. She's like shrugging while she
1:10:08
says I was just trying to give
1:10:10
It made me puke, it made me puke, and then I swallowed it
1:10:13
and then I had to puke again and
1:10:15
It was disgusting. Yeah, fuck Robyn.
1:10:18
And you're right. I feel like they were all being
1:10:20
so UN, like unconnected to the
1:10:23
Like what are they even talking about?
1:10:25
I mean, clearly they're not having real if that's their
1:10:27
actual belief. If that's their actual opinion,
1:10:30
then they're not having real conversations with her because
1:10:32
you would never get from Meri that she's deaf.
1:10:35
She's probably going to go the
1:10:37
didn't, she'd regret it. But she would just want to do it
1:10:39
on her own, just not with Robyn.
1:10:40
But she she wants to do it and I think she'll regret it.
1:10:43
But just not with Robyn's womb, but with.
1:10:45
Her also a little projection. She'll regret it.
1:10:47
Like, I don't know about that, OK.
1:10:49
And then they of course, go right back to Kody and Meri.
1:10:54
And Kody says, well, I think we should just do one more visit to
1:11:02
aren't just sitting here and waiting for a decision, waiting
1:11:05
around for a decision. It's like, so you basically want
1:11:11
I don't know why there's always this reference to doing nothing.
1:11:14
sex? Because it seemed like from the
1:11:16
doctor's visit that you're not
1:11:19
even expect to happen? Like she's just gonna get
1:11:21
magically pregnant. Even though they tried to lie
1:11:24
and be like, well, that's not an
1:11:25
Like we're fucking like rabbits.
1:11:27
But it was. Obvious.
1:11:28
Literally, you're not. Yeah.
1:11:30
So it's just a bunch of pressure put on her and totally
1:11:33
unnecessary and literally abusive.
1:11:35
It's disgusting. Yeah.
1:11:36
Don't like it? Which is so weird because in
1:11:39
another universe, in another conversation, this would be a
1:11:41
totally reasonable thing to be discussing.
1:11:43
Like be like, let's go see if your eggs are viable because we
1:11:46
really want to be informed for our next step.
1:11:48
But that's not what's happening. Instead, it feels like Russian
1:12:03
Being really pushy about making a decision and it feels to me
1:12:07
like she just doesn't. It's shitty.
1:12:09
She says, well, OK, maybe like at the end.
1:12:13
And then they just like, have a shot of them in a prom pose
1:12:17
looking out into the ocean sunset, and it just slowly fades
1:12:25
What was this episode called?
1:12:26
Meri's baby decision. Yeah, not it was like Meri's
1:12:29
baby decision. Like Meri?
1:12:31
'S baby. Decision, but baby.
1:12:34
Baby decision and I guess we're left at the end of the episode
1:12:37
with no decisions. Nope.
1:12:39
Maybe on getting her eggs tested
1:12:44
This show is terrible. So now.
1:12:47
The prom pose that they put them
1:12:49
like they literally had him standing behind her with the
1:12:52
hands like a prom pose and zoomed in on them and then.
1:12:56
Slowly went off looking into the
1:12:59
And then the camera panned out
1:13:02
away. What?
1:13:06
A dumb episode. Yeah, so dumb.
1:13:11
Another, hey, let's give a plot point here.
1:13:15
Like it couldn't be enough that they're going to Mexico and
1:13:17
enjoying their time together, right?
1:13:19
It had to be about this whole thing from the get go.
1:13:22
He had to say, I'm going to push
1:13:24
I'm going to push her from the
1:13:27
the very end. And it couldn't just be about
1:13:29
enjoying. Vacation and that's interesting
1:13:34
being Meri knowing hopefully at this point that there's
1:13:38
production things with with the show, like hopefully she's got
1:13:40
some smarts about that. But if you remove that element,
1:13:45
going on vacation to Mexico with
1:13:47
gone before and it's kind of your thing, and then the entire
1:13:51
time, you know, they did go up a
1:13:55
hole and they did get sexually
1:13:58
Yeah, and they did get sweaty ass.
1:14:02
Sweatiest swass you've ever seen.
1:14:05
So those things did happen, but it is bookended quite literally
1:14:09
by him pushing her into making
1:14:11
It's like, what a way to ruin a trip.
1:14:13
Like I'm so gross and it's more than the trip.
1:14:17
He's it's gross. It's so gross.
1:14:19
Yeah, like he had to make it all
1:14:22
of enjoying the time with his wife.
1:14:24
It had to be like that pressure of this decision and this like
1:14:32
we've discussed many times, there's probably a producer
1:14:34
being like this is what you got to do on this trip and it's
1:14:36
like. Give her a break.
1:14:38
All right, it's everyone's favorite part of the episode.
1:14:42
Shit stain. We're going to start with shit
1:14:50
I'd actually, I'm going to be
1:14:52
selfish and I'm going to take this shit stain because I feel
1:14:54
like the last time I struggled a
1:14:56
You go, you go. My shit stain is going to 1.
1:14:59
Kody Brown for borderline abusing Slash.
1:15:05
Literally abusing his wife with pressure to make decisions that
1:15:11
are really really dramatic. Putting her on the spot in front
1:15:14
of camera crews, making her feel
1:15:18
bodily processes and what she can and cannot do.
1:15:21
And then also playing the martyr
1:15:26
to supply whatever you want to do, but you got to make that
1:15:30
decision now. And, and lying through his
1:15:33
fucking teeth. He's a liar and a fraud and an
1:15:36
abuser and Kody's real colors came through right here and so
1:15:39
I'm giving him my shit stain. Yeah, he completely and utterly
1:15:43
pretended to be like, I have your back, whatever decision,
1:15:45
and then says, Nope, I'm going
1:15:48
force your hand. I need a decision.
1:15:50
He's such a crock of shit. Yeah, this is going to be like a
1:15:53
lame one, but I'm going to go with Robyn for the fact that
1:16:00
she's wearing these gaudy dumbass necklaces to like,
1:16:03
shamelessly promote them and she's trying to do her own
1:16:08
product placement and it's literally just her.
1:16:11
Like she is wearing the necklaces in these scenes and no
1:16:14
one else is and. She's doing a terrible job at.
1:16:18
It Yeah, she is. And then like her baby is like
1:16:22
playing with the one. And it's like any mother
1:16:24
realistically knows that you don't want like a choking device
1:16:28
hanging around your neck for your sake and your baby's sake.
1:16:32
Also that moment on the couch when she was saying the whole
1:16:35
thing about how she was just giving Meri an option.
1:16:38
Yeah, that and her little shrug thing that she does to try to
1:16:42
look like innocent and coy and
1:16:47
Yeah, it's so phony. I literally wrote down like, did
1:16:51
I do that? Like the Oh yeah, It's like,
1:16:54
yuck, shut up. So yeah, Robyn gets my shit
1:16:57
stained even though we only saw her like cut in here and there
1:17:02
and she maybe had 20 words. They, Kody and Robyn deserve
1:17:08
each other, that's for sure. Definitely.
1:17:10
So Mustard Seed. Well, I do believe that I'm
1:17:14
going to give my mustard seed to
1:17:19
Brown endures a lot on this show.
1:17:21
Like throughout the life cycle of the show and whenever there's
1:17:32
but disgust for Meri Brown, I must acknowledge this.
1:17:36
It's part of my own journey of growth, becoming a better
1:17:41
person, and I feel bad for marrying this episode.
1:17:45
I feel like she's just getting browbeat by Kody with this
1:17:49
thing. And it's like, I've had enough
1:17:54
enough. Like, I don't want to hear this
1:17:55
anymore. I don't want to talk about it
1:17:56
anymore. It's stupid.
1:17:58
And then just to know that we're all, it's like her real life.
1:18:03
So it's not just something that she can probably wink and nod to
1:18:07
Like it's enough. It's enough and I just feel bad
1:18:10
for her and I don't like saying that, so I'm going to give my
1:18:14
mustard seed to Meri. I just think it's these moments
1:18:17
where we can kind of understand why she turned out the way she
1:18:23
Because if anyone were put in these like positions that she is
1:18:36
religion and you were raised a certain way and you have this
1:18:39
like self loathing about it. And then it's a plot point
1:18:43
repeatedly. And your husband is OK with it.
1:18:46
I, I think in the, in instance
1:18:49
like this, my husband would be
1:18:52
like, we're done. We're not bringing this up with
1:18:55
her anymore. It's hurtful, it's harmful.
1:18:57
Like, please don't bring this up
1:19:00
We've already decided that this is over and stop and he doesn't
1:19:05
do that for her and it's probably super hurtful.
1:19:10
And also the other sister wives are still in on this plot point
1:19:13
too. They're sitting there pretending
1:19:16
that she would want to do in vitro and not hearing her and
1:19:21
the frustration has to be so real on her end and the hurt and
1:19:25
the sadness and I just truly can't even imagine.
1:19:29
So I mean at best they are negligent or not paying
1:19:32
attention and I don't think that's true.
1:19:34
I think at worst they're making it seem like they she should be
1:19:37
doing something the other wives.
1:19:39
I think that the family in general is just like greedy and
1:19:42
desperate to make something happen for themselves.
1:19:45
So they're willing to put her neck on the line repeatedly for
1:19:49
this blot point when you would hope that your family would say
1:19:54
enough is enough, like find something else for her to do on
1:19:58
the show. But I mean, yeah, that's like a
1:20:01
dark place to go to with this. But yeah, it it really is.
1:20:05
I think at this point, it's dark.
1:20:07
And she's perhaps tipsy again in this episode.
1:20:12
And so she's kind of blubbering, and she deserves to be allowed
1:20:18
Yeah. Take this mustard seed, Meri,
1:20:19
and put it in the ground and watch it grow.
1:20:22
Yeah. Well, I am going to give my
1:20:27
mustard seed to Christine. Christine.
1:20:31
And it is solely based on the scene where she has to
1:20:39
repeatedly scream in a restaurant that she failed her
1:20:47
Licensing exam. Oh God.
1:20:53
God, that's really something. I failed.
1:20:56
It's funny how it's I didn't pass, I didn't pass and then I
1:21:03
It's a bummer for you dog. Bummer for you dog.
1:21:09
She does deserve a mustard seed for that.
1:21:12
Because, you know, she took it on the chin.
1:21:15
She. Did, And she was blatantly
1:21:17
honest from the start of the episode when they talked about
1:21:20
really study much. Yeah.
1:21:21
And then at the end, after she admits her failure, she's like,
1:21:25
I thought I was done with studying, and now I guess I have
1:21:29
It's just like girlfriend. It's a funny reason to give
1:21:33
someone a mustard seed like. Because they failed.
1:21:36
Like it's funny because she failed and she had to admit it
1:21:43
like all the grace that she was allowed to have with having to
1:21:49
That's amazing. Oh my God, I love it.
1:21:54
Listen, I fully support this mustard seed, even though I
1:21:57
usually don't support anything to do with Christine.
1:21:59
I have to support this. I do.
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1:22:17
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1:22:25
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1:22:33
care about this show, nothing. It just makes me feel so warm
1:22:37
inside, like I have a little mustard seed planted deep inside