Latest / The Art of Costume Podcast / Halloween (2018) and Halloween Kills (2021) With Costume Designer, Emily Gunshor
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- 0:12I meant flew on more changes, we always know he has two pairs of
- 0:20pants, one jacket, one bigger shoes, that's it and I was like
- 0:24a she was like Laurie. Strode does not care about
- 0:29shopping. Hello, and welcome to the art of
- 0:36casting black, a simoes with joy glass and I'm Laurie Strode
- 0:40neighbor. Spencer Williams.
- 0:42Bentzi how you doing, good? I actually feel like being a
- 0:48Lori's neighbor at this point. Probably is not enjoyable.
- 0:51I imagine a lots of Racket coming from next door, you know?
- 0:56But like she's living in the middle of nowhere now.
- 0:59So I don't think she has neighbors.
- 1:01Right. Right right.
- 1:03Well like like maybe maybe you hear her shooting up her
- 1:08mannequins at night, that's what I'm saying.
- 1:11Like see that's like, definitely her like hobby.
- 1:13She goes outside of like a cigar and just blows up mannequins.
- 1:17All night long. Well, if it wasn't evident this
- 1:21week, we watched Halloween 2018, and Halloween kills so fun.
- 1:32I love these two films. I'm a big Halloween nerd.
- 1:37I especially love the first film Halloween, so good.
- 1:41Halloween kills is great also. But I just remember, I saw the
- 1:45first one in theaters with a Visa actually, and I was just
- 1:48like, damn, that was so good. I this list up my first time
- 1:54seeing In the newest Halloween. But I remember watching the
- 1:57original Halloween because I watched it in your apartment
- 1:59because he made me. Yeah, that's right.
- 2:03We did do that. And I was like, okay and I was
- 2:07like, oh wait, this is really good.
- 2:09I love to watch Halloween every Halloween because I live in
- 2:13Pasadena, the original Halloween was filmed partially in
- 2:16Pasadena. So just feels like it's the
- 2:19thing. You know, that's my tradition.
- 2:22Absolutely, absolutely. Lee.
- 2:24And what is exciting about these new Halloween movies is, it's
- 2:31like three movies, making one big story and it's kind of like
- 2:36jumping straight from the first one to these new ones, which I
- 2:40really appreciated because like scream, I haven't I've seen
- 2:43Clips but I've never seen any of the films in between Foley.
- 2:48I've seen bits and pieces and parts but never the whole
- 2:51there's a lot of Halloween. In between this first one and
- 2:55these new ones. So I love that they were like
- 2:57let's just take those out of the equation and just act like there
- 3:01wasn't 2000s, but not I I think we should treat all of the
- 3:07Halloween films in between the first one.
- 3:10And the 2018 one as like, horror nightmares.
- 3:13That, that Laurie had do that like this one.
- 3:16I think we should think of each one has a different dream she
- 3:18had. That's cool.
- 3:20It's not good dreams. Good dreams.
- 3:23That's why. She's that's why she's A little
- 3:24bit on the edge. Yeah, a little bit, that's why
- 3:27she's fully on the edge of glory strobes ready to go off at any
- 3:32second. Thank you all for coming back.
- 3:34On a Thursday, we had our interview with Emily gun shore
- 3:38on Tuesday, timeout scream, so excited for you to hear the
- 3:42second half as we talk about Halloween and Halloween kills.
- 3:45But first, let's get into our our business of the day.
- 3:49As always, I'll start with a little summary Laurie, Strode in
- 3:53her family, Confront her longtime foe, Michael Myers, the
- 3:57math figure, who has haunted her.
- 3:59Since she narrowly escaped his Killing Spree on Halloween night
- 4:03for decades ago, and that is Halloween and Halloween kills
- 4:08two in one. Yes, yes.
- 4:10Because both take take place on the same night.
- 4:13So let's go behind the Wardrobe. We have director, David Gordon
- 4:18green, our fabulous costume designer, Emily gun Shore who
- 4:23you'll know her work. Work from Bender's, the last OG
- 4:27scream 2022, and Stargirl, her current work is 13.
- 4:32The Musical that you can find on Netflix and Halloween ends.
- 4:37Which I'm pretty sure came out last week.
- 4:39If I remember my dates correctly, it's either our
- 4:42coming out. I'm sure everyone listening to
- 4:44us right now is like it's out. Yeah, anyways, very excited.
- 4:52Let's bring Emily guns or back and talk about Halloween and
- 4:55Halloween kills. Yes, Emily welcome back.
- 4:58Welcome back Eveleigh. Thank you for having me.
- 5:03She's like, it's been five minutes.
- 5:10We are so excited to talk to you about Halloween and Halloween
- 5:13kills. Honestly, if I had to say, what
- 5:15my favorite horror movie is, I think would be Halloween it
- 5:18really wavers between Halloween and scream, but I guess because
- 5:22I live in Pasadena, it has At Halloween Vibe.
- 5:25So I've just so excited to talk about these films their iconic
- 5:29that is for sure. So many iconic moments and all
- 5:33of these movies. So the first Halloween came out
- 5:38in 1978 and just like scream, it is a huge horror franchise.
- 5:47What was your overall experience working on this new Trilogy of
- 5:52Halloween films? I mean, this has to be the
- 5:56Pinnacle of everything I've done.
- 5:58Being a part of the Halloween movies.
- 6:00I mean, it has really become a family for each of these movies.
- 6:04You know, David Gordon green, our director and the production
- 6:09designer, Richard Wright and myself RDP, we've all become
- 6:14really good friends also and I think that this franchise was,
- 6:20you know, in 1978. It also was made as I can in.
- 6:24Dependent and movie that Jamie will talk about.
- 6:26Like she went out and went to Walmart and bought this blue
- 6:29shirt, because that's what she should wear, you know, and they
- 6:32had 25 bucks to do it, you know, and sometimes just say things to
- 6:36me, like, oh, well, in the original Emily, we only had one.
- 6:38So, if you do, it's gonna be fine.
- 6:40I'll be like, okay, where's the different fine?
- 6:45But just being a part of this movie has been such an honor and
- 6:50so fun to, you know, it's like this interesting.
- 6:54This baby that so many people recognize and see and respect
- 6:59and look to on so many different levels.
- 7:02So it's been really exciting. The fact that you did both
- 7:07scream and all these Halloween films as probably one of most
- 7:10badass resumes ever. I mean, I just I'm like jealous
- 7:14of your brain to new experiences.
- 7:17I did both of these Halloween's before scream and then, you
- 7:21know. Yeah.
- 7:22So it was definitely only a good leaping off point and lots to
- 7:26learn about making horror movies.
- 7:28You know, lots of night shooting which is not my favorite, but
- 7:33let's alert about multiples and blood and color playing with
- 7:38color. But I think my favorite part
- 7:41about working on these movies was that David really is always
- 7:45looking for characters. So he likes, you know, really
- 7:49interesting weird Vibes of the character and like things that
- 7:53are so Unexpected. Like why, why would they wear
- 7:57that? But okay, cool.
- 7:58Let's do it. There's, there's just so many
- 8:00opportunities for costumes that I feel like we don't necessarily
- 8:04look at a horror film and think of that and then, there it is.
- 8:08Yeah, I mean, the costumes and these movies are so good because
- 8:12there's so much story telling them, you know, when people
- 8:14think of the original Halloween, obviously like the costumes are
- 8:17at the top of mine, but this one, like I was in love with the
- 8:20costumes of so fun, starting with Jamie Lee Curtis who I
- 8:25proudly been Danny to, she is the ultimate, the original
- 8:29scream queen. I'm obsessed with her anything
- 8:31she does. We just did our everything
- 8:34everywhere all at once episode. So good, so good.
- 8:39She's Jamie is brilliant and brings like an energy to the
- 8:44room. That is just Indescribable and
- 8:48so inspiring because she's just strong and passionate and
- 8:51intelligent. So yeah, so Again, with her
- 8:55character, we started by going back and watching all the
- 8:58original movie as well. Not all of them because really
- 9:00our movie is 1978. And then 20 years later to us,
- 9:06David specifically, wanted to kind of forget all the other
- 9:08movies in between. I can't you can't completely
- 9:12forget you still, you know. We still, I still watched them
- 9:14just to kind of. Yeah.
- 9:16But we've all seen them. Exactly.
- 9:19I was just to do your home for the little bit but for me
- 9:22specifically, like Um the 1978 picture, I took a color story
- 9:27and you know you nailed it there with your picture but I took a
- 9:30color story of this free young woman before trauma because I
- 9:36think that a lot of the horror films even though, you know, you
- 9:38originally watch them and you're like, oh they're just about the
- 9:40blood and the gore and the scare for us for Jamie's character.
- 9:44It's really about a person who was free from trauma and then
- 9:48had this huge trauma and how you show that all these years later.
- 9:55Stick to the color. She's also very strong very
- 9:59independent, you know, she's built this wall around herself
- 10:02in the first movie and built a cage and you know, she's been
- 10:06out there fighting her whole life and she has a family but
- 10:09really fighting has been more important than her family.
- 10:12So, we wanted to tell that through her clothes like very
- 10:15utilitarian, very dark, and but also still the same person,
- 10:21right? You could really see how like,
- 10:23the trauma, Really consumed her life and she comes out in this
- 10:27film. Like someone, I mean, she she
- 10:29gives like a most Walking Dead Vibes, like she's not messing
- 10:32around either. Almost like what we're talking
- 10:34about this cream episode. She has been waiting for this
- 10:37moment. She knew it was coming.
- 10:39And just her clothes just say, you know, time, she's ready.
- 10:42Ready to go? It's fight time.
- 10:44Yeah. I would not mess up this Laurie.
- 10:46Strode. Oh yeah.
- 10:48She means business and the wig. We actually went back and forth
- 10:50of whether she was gonna have her short hair.
- 10:54Or the wig. And I think the wig was just
- 10:57such a great choice because otherwise she looks like Jamie
- 11:01Lee Curtis, which is not a bad thing, but like really embodied
- 11:05Laurie. Strode and Jamie saw it.
- 11:07She saw it in the world on another hairdresser.
- 11:09Actually that had that hair and took a picture and I was like
- 11:13this is how I want my hair to look.
- 11:15We were all like yep. That's it.
- 11:18I love that. So that actually brings up
- 11:20another question like I get the feeling that That Jamie, which I
- 11:25think we all know loves this character and is very involved.
- 11:29I imagine that she must have been very collaborative on this
- 11:32process so much. So, I mean, on this first movie,
- 11:35I had never met her. She was in LA and basically, you
- 11:39know, I did research and pulled images and we had a lot of
- 11:42discussion about types of things.
- 11:44And then, you know, when you get to a modern-day movie, you can
- 11:47talk all you want to talk. But until you put clothes on the
- 11:49body, nothing really matters. So we started doing some
- 11:53shopping. Bang.
- 11:54We were filming this movie in Charleston, South Carolina, and
- 11:58Jamie was in LA. So, I actually put together my
- 12:01favorite outfits and dressed the dress form and sent her photos
- 12:06months, before we started filming.
- 12:08Just to say, this is the color story.
- 12:10This is the vibe that jacket that she's wearing their.
- 12:13The barber jacket was in those original photos, you know?
- 12:16And she was just kind of like yes this is it and if anything I
- 12:20was complicating it more than she wanted I then flew off.
- 12:24With the clothes, you know, and I had more changes.
- 12:27We always have more thing. No, he has two pairs of pants.
- 12:31One jacket wondering shoes. That's it.
- 12:34And I was like a, you know, she was like Laurie, Strode does not
- 12:40care about shopping. She does not care about you know
- 12:43she's not going to get new things.
- 12:45She's had the same tank top the same shirt and the same pair of
- 12:48pants now for 10 years and it works.
- 12:52So then we just had to make it look 10.
- 12:54And you know, look authentic. I love it.
- 12:57She's just like, I already have my tank top.
- 13:00I don't know why you're calling me.
- 13:03It's not really. But also so welcoming and she's
- 13:10the best. I just, can you just take a Liz
- 13:13with an eye on set. Next time you do a film like
- 13:15this just we can watch real. I mean, I'll help you all with a
- 13:19get your food and stuff but I just want to watch Another some
- 13:25new and amazing characters were the high school.
- 13:29Students of Haddonfield a very interesting group of kids what
- 13:34was it? Like coming up with this new
- 13:36look for them. Yeah so I mean Haddonfield is
- 13:40the Midwest, it's Indiana. We wanted it to feel authentic
- 13:46to that to what what that world you know, is and not, they're
- 13:50not going to the mall and shopping at Urban Outfitters.
- 13:53Errors and Tick-Tock isn't like the thing, you know, they're
- 13:57digging in the thrift store and they're a little bit more.
- 14:02Yeah. Just more character is more like
- 14:04interesting types of people than just the run-of-the-mill, high
- 14:08school world, was kind of how this group was looked at except
- 14:13for Andy who plays Allison Lori Stones granddaughter in this
- 14:20movie. I really wanted her to feel like
- 14:22a polar Out of Jamie. So she still lives in that world
- 14:26but she's wearing a light pink sweater.
- 14:28She's sweet. She's dressing in a masculine
- 14:31tie. Like she just she isn't.
- 14:33She's looking to look Beyond Mike Myers and the trauma that
- 14:37it's caused on her family. She's trying to, you know her
- 14:41mother Judy has kind of push that away and wants to forget
- 14:45about this side of her life. So trying to give Andy that like
- 14:50that personality that she's just a regular high schooler She's
- 14:54living in the Midwest and she's, you know, going to go to school
- 14:57and study, whatever she's going to study.
- 14:59Yeah. And Bonnie and Clyde with her
- 15:03like that was Bonnie and Clyde was something that was already
- 15:06written into the script. When I came on to the project
- 15:09and I just loved it, I loved it. She was Clyde and he was Bonnie
- 15:14and it was like such a fun moment because I just feel like
- 15:19it's something that Laurie Strode would never have done,
- 15:21right? Absolutely.
- 15:27Something else. Laurie?
- 15:28Strode never would have done. We're Christmas sweater.
- 15:33I was so excited to see. This is like Judy Greer.
- 15:38Her daughter is here. This was like it was almost a
- 15:42joke like we were in a production meeting or I was in a
- 15:45meeting with David and we were talking about like what Judy's
- 15:50character would do like growing up that.
- 15:53Amy the, that Laurie would forever want to ignore
- 15:57Halloween, you know? That this is, like, let's just
- 16:00skip Halloween, but you think? And that is how Judy is
- 16:05character. Would look at her mother, like,
- 16:07why are we still talking about Halloween like life?
- 16:11So, it was like a passing joke. Like what if I just give her
- 16:14something totally random. It like she skipped Halloween,
- 16:16like there's decorations on the whole block of houses, but
- 16:20there's none at their house. So what is Judy's?
- 16:22Wearing a Christmas Sweater and David was like laughed and was
- 16:26like, I love that. That's actually really funny.
- 16:28I didn't think it was gonna stick and that we were going to
- 16:31actually do this but like write a whole second film Beauty
- 16:36wasn't there yet and you know, I'm like oh yeah Christmas
- 16:39sweater. This is kind of silly and fun
- 16:41and quirky and like weird like there's not you know it says
- 16:44something it says a story but it's also anyway.
- 16:47So there was actually a vintage Christmas sweater in store in
- 16:52Charleston on the main road. I became friends with the owner
- 16:56of it and he had a warehouse of vintage Christmas sweaters.
- 17:00And before Judy got there, I went and picked through and
- 17:04picked my favorite. Few of them that were felt
- 17:07obviously a Christmas sweater but not like, you know, a big
- 17:10Rudolph for a big cheese friend in like a pretty color tone.
- 17:18And so there it was all of a sudden she was in a Christmas
- 17:21sweater. And at this point, we weren't
- 17:23talking about making a second movie or how the second movie
- 17:26was going to start. So there was like, no cognitive
- 17:29choice that it was like, oh now dude, he's gonna be in a
- 17:32Christmas sweater or an entire movie.
- 17:36It's so that right. I remember, like I saw both
- 17:40films in the theaters and another night, I Was preparing
- 17:43for this interview and I just like, did a double take a look
- 17:46at the screens like, is that a Christmas sweater?
- 17:48Like, I don't know how. I never noticed it before but
- 17:50now they see it. Like I audibly laugh.
- 17:52Every time I see it. Perfect Beauty.
- 17:54And I still laugh because she came to the fitting and it was
- 17:57like she just had the ugliest clothes in the fitting room,
- 18:00like she walked in and she's so cool and nice and, you know,
- 18:03from California. And I was just like, I'm sorry,
- 18:07you have leave bad clothes like her character Karen, you know,
- 18:10she's a Midwest woman who works with children and just doesn't
- 18:16care about fashion, you know, she shops at Dillard's and not
- 18:20that whatever there's anything wrong with that but it was just
- 18:23not Her normal style. Elizabeth, this gives strong you
- 18:29energy. If you're in a horror film, I
- 18:31know, I really want that sweater.
- 18:35Honestly, the Christmas sweater it is perfect.
- 18:39I mean, Judy looks cute. It it like all things I could
- 18:42talk, I love Duty for like, embracing it and going for it.
- 18:45Her jeans were also from The Dillards and they were like
- 18:47super embroidered on the back pocket like really like thick
- 18:51stitching and heavily embroidered and like, Duke.
- 18:54I love that. Yeah, yeah, they were special.
- 18:59Okay but now it's not a laughing matter because we have to talk
- 19:03about Michael Myers em. I love this costume because it
- 19:08feels really resemble it of the old Michael Myers costume.
- 19:13But it's just now got like somehow it's gone darker.
- 19:16It's gotten more evil like you. Look at this Michael Myers and
- 19:19he's way more scary than original Michael Myers and
- 19:22there's really not much of A difference, I do notice that the
- 19:25mask which is different in Scream, this mask looks
- 19:28obviously weathered, you do see, you know, through to seen the
- 19:33film a little bit more blood. I just this Michael Myers is not
- 19:37a Michael Myers. You want to be stuck with no.
- 19:40So often is the Mastermind Behind The Masks.
- 19:44He's special effects, makeup artist extraordinaire, and he
- 19:48built the masks for all three of our movies.
- 19:52And so yeah. So the Ask is definitely
- 19:54changed. But the whole concept unlike in
- 19:57Scream is is that this mask has been in is the same mask.
- 20:02It's been in custody at the Asain Asylum and now he's had to
- 20:05steal the mask back and it's like, you know, that moment
- 20:08happens where the mask has come out.
- 20:10So it's it's been through the wringer and his coveralls.
- 20:15It was another conversation because you know when we
- 20:18actually meet Mike Myers at the beginning of Halloween, he's in
- 20:21the in the Institute and he's in those the uniform.
- 20:25So he steals the coveralls from the the workmen.
- 20:29So we had a little bit of autonomy to create our own
- 20:33coveralls and going back and looking at the original movie.
- 20:37You know. I really wanted them to have the
- 20:39same menacing feel. You still want the Halloween
- 20:43store to get a blue cover all and know that it's Mike Myers.
- 20:47So we knew there were certain parameters we wanted to stick
- 20:49with but again modernizing it making it scary.
- 20:54And we actually did a lot of work on these coveralls and went
- 20:58through a lot of process. So we purchased them, they were
- 21:02actually like a charcoal gray and then our age are dire, April
- 21:07did just so much work to make them as perfect as they are.
- 21:11So the coveralls originally were purchased were like a charcoal
- 21:15blue gray would be like a graphite blue gray and then she
- 21:18over dyed them into a navy color too.
- 21:23Pull them slightly darker. So that was the beginning of the
- 21:26process of ends. And then you know it was like oh
- 21:29my God, are we ever going to get enough of them?
- 21:31And then she started to stressing them.
- 21:32So the pair that he stole from the mechanics start with just a
- 21:36little bit of mechanic oil grease that kind of thing.
- 21:39And as we progress through the films and he gets into the
- 21:41fights and all the things happen, they keep them there.
- 21:45So it's a lot, a lot of energy, I love that.
- 21:49It is just so creepy but just like so perfectly.
- 21:53See, I was just very excited to see it and I'm glad that Michael
- 21:57Myers also knows, his own power and his not going to go to the
- 22:00store and buy like some flannels and short shorts.
- 22:02Like he knew what he had. The where is reprisal just to
- 22:07get my coveralls, interesting storyline behind his mind.
- 22:17What was not scary? I was so excited to see.
- 22:20Kyle Richards, come back, reprise her role as Lindsay.
- 22:23Yeah, it was just like the perfect celebratory moment.
- 22:27I guess we're all the OG fans out there to see Kyle Richards
- 22:31show up. And what was it?
- 22:32Like, working with Kyle. I'm adding meeting and working
- 22:35with Kyle was so awesome and amazing.
- 22:38She, I just had no expectations, you know, you never know and
- 22:43Kyle just came in. She was so excited to get back
- 22:46into this role that she hadn't been in.
- 22:47And since such a little kid, and we had no idea her backstory You
- 22:53know, we kind of wanted to give her a little bit of toughness a
- 22:57little bit of golf - like she built up this Edge.
- 22:59But I wanted to keep to the color story and have a little
- 23:02bit of plaid in her. Hence the jacket.
- 23:06Oh my gosh. I didn't realize.
- 23:07Yeah, she was wearing plaid and original and if that photo
- 23:10wasn't black and white, it is in that burgundy navy color palette
- 23:15to. So I just wanted to like tie
- 23:17that back together in case anybody forgot what perfect Seth
- 23:22kiss. Little Easter egg here and
- 23:25there. Yeah, we gave her a little nose
- 23:27ring. She we wanted to make her
- 23:28slightly goth and, you know, into this Mystic world.
- 23:33So that she had a little bit of Personality.
- 23:35We wanted to keep the bangs from her childhood.
- 23:39So and and yeah, she's worse among Doc Martin Boots and black
- 23:46jeans a tough Modern Woman. You almost make Haddonfield feel
- 23:51like a cool place to live like almost Then it's see how the
- 23:54trauma that happens. Like I would hang out with
- 23:56Lindsay, totally. I would definitely hang out with
- 23:59Lindsay any day of the week. She's this.
- 24:05I feel like this is the one of the greatest parts of the
- 24:07following films is that they take place at Halloween.
- 24:11Yeah. How do you come up with so many
- 24:14different costumes and honestly, they're all like, really fun
- 24:18that I feel like none of them are basic.
- 24:20Yeah. So that is one of the main goals
- 24:22that I've always had. Add from all of the Halloween's
- 24:25is that no one would go to the Halloween adventure and buy a
- 24:28costume in a packet. Just because personally, I think
- 24:32that even if you're going to be, you know, like Oscar is the, the
- 24:37vampire, the devil. He was a devil.
- 24:40Sorry. So if you're going to be like
- 24:42Oscar and be the devil, you're not going to just go by the
- 24:45pack, that's there. Do you know, and do it?
- 24:47You're going to be a little more creative.
- 24:49Personally, that's my take on Halloween.
- 24:51I love. Homemade costumes.
- 24:54I love a little bit of character to them.
- 24:56So, I that was a big part of all of the Halloween parties and the
- 25:02list, you know, it kind of goes to fold because you're also
- 25:04dealing with a lot of Licensing and clearances with those
- 25:07Halloween stores. So that's something that we have
- 25:10to be very conscious of on my end.
- 25:14So then on top of that, we would just make lists upon list of
- 25:17like, oh, we could make a cat, we could make a princess.
- 25:22Oh, we could, you know? And then Or like you have you
- 25:24like deep dive into the kids at that Halloween party.
- 25:28I mean you have a you have a jellyfish, you have a scuba
- 25:32diver, you have, you know, an Ammendment inanimate objects
- 25:37like just you end up running out of things to create.
- 25:41So, you're walking through Home Depot and you're like, oh,
- 25:43there's some metal and a thing, what can I make out of that?
- 25:46Like, maybe it's going to be a robot, or maybe it's more like,
- 25:51you know, Ever, really, it really is fun but that ain't
- 25:57gets very creative. And, you know, again, we're
- 25:59always just coming up with different like crazy, like,
- 26:03things or going back to the original 1978 movie and looking
- 26:08for Easter eggs. So, in the original 78 movie,
- 26:14there's this one tiny little brief bit where like a group of
- 26:18kids is walking down Main Street and they're in costumes, and one
- 26:21of them is dressed as balloon. As a balloon person, like it may
- 26:25have the load up balloons, just like all to them.
- 26:28So in Halloween, kills in one of the flashbacks, we actually
- 26:33recreated. That kid has balloons all over
- 26:38bad. So we were just always looking
- 26:40for fun, you know, this is the fun part.
- 26:43I have to go back and look about them.
- 26:45So, funny, so when you saw the script, all the high schoolers
- 26:49are going to like Halloween dance where you like, oh this is
- 26:52gonna be so fun or were you kind of like Like, this is gonna be
- 26:54crazy the best day and you're like up against all different
- 27:01aspects of it because, you know, they don't want you to prefit
- 27:04them and they want them to come dressed and, you know, there's
- 27:07lots of layers to have but it is really ends up being really fun.
- 27:11No. So fun, I'm jealous.
- 27:13That also, I wish that we had more dances like this just in
- 27:15general. Like where are these Halloween
- 27:17dances? I mean, yeah, that's I need to
- 27:19go to a high school but just Halloween dance, you know?
- 27:23Decree Get your own right. Oh, that'd be fun.
- 27:26Like art of costume. Anyways, understatement of the
- 27:30year. There's a little bit of blood
- 27:33and Halloween and Halloween kills gal gal.
- 27:39How this? How the the aging and breakdown
- 27:43of these costumes is so intense. I mean even Michael Myers goes
- 27:47through it, just how did you accomplish this?
- 27:49Your team must have been working around the clock around the
- 27:53clock. So it is it is a constant
- 27:57process and check in because you get the script and you break the
- 28:00script down and you say like oh this scene there's going to be
- 28:03this fight and you're trying to read between the lines and then
- 28:06you ask the director and you ask the stunt coordinator, like
- 28:09what's going to happen? Where they going to get stabbed?
- 28:12And they said, oh they're going to get stabbed here.
- 28:15And then when you get there on the day and the actors do it,
- 28:18and they're in the moment, this tab is never ever ever ever.
- 28:23Ever. We're two weeks ago in the
- 28:25meeting. They said that was going to be
- 28:28and it's not, it's always friendly.
- 28:31And so we always have to be a little bit flexible.
- 28:37A little bit patient to like, watch the choreographer, you
- 28:40know, because it and it's nobody's fault.
- 28:42But it's like once you get into the moment and the actor is
- 28:45doing the action and they see how they're going to land, this
- 28:48is where the stabbed goes so then you know, yeah I have a
- 28:52team of people on Who are ready to add bullets, add knife wounds
- 28:57at blood touch up and then from that moment will take
- 29:01photographs, it'll get sent back to the shop to where the Aging
- 29:04dying team is then can create multiples for the next day back
- 29:11and forth. But then sometimes we shoot a
- 29:14scene that takes place after said action and we don't know
- 29:18what's going to happen in the action.
- 29:19So we'll really have to talk to all of the people and say, okay.
- 29:23We're We're adding this knife stabbed here because this scene
- 29:28takes place after it. And so then we'll have to back
- 29:31into it. So it kind of Ebbs and flows and
- 29:33sometimes it needs to be fixed in post, unfortunately, but
- 29:37often it works out somehow. It works out in the end because
- 29:41of flood and then and then we're always maintaining like to see
- 29:45like, okay, we're up to this point especially for Mike Myers
- 29:47coveralls like the first movie. There was I believe nine phases.
- 29:53Is of the coveralls as far as like.
- 29:56So here's where he got them from the mechanic, then after the
- 29:59mechanic, he got into a fight and he got sliced on the, you
- 30:03know, abdomen and a dominum here and there's life, and it's
- 30:07bleeding, a little. So then that's phase two.
- 30:10And then phase 3. He got shot.
- 30:12Two bullet wounds were added in this thing.
- 30:14So, they're all like numbered and there's photographs, and we
- 30:18just have to make sure. So by that second movie, when
- 30:22he's coming out, Out of the Flames.
- 30:24He's now wet on fire, has all of the action from the first movie
- 30:30we're starting for the second movie exhausting.
- 30:35I just don't even know how you did it.
- 30:38I mean, honestly, there was definitely a point where I'd be
- 30:40like, wait a minute. I forget what happened and then
- 30:42you have to go back to the note and then every time someone gets
- 30:45stabbed you just shaking your head.
- 30:46You're like, here we go, here we go.
- 30:50Yeah, yeah. Jamie.
- 30:52I mean in the back, Chuck that day, you know, we shot the
- 30:56beginning of it at the year before we shot the second movie
- 31:00and she's covering herself in blood that blood is so sticky
- 31:04and cold. I get the idea though, that she
- 31:07loves it though. She, I mean, we have a picture
- 31:09and she's clearly just dousing herself or maybe they just like
- 31:12more So fun, so much fun. We love these movies and
- 31:24Halloween ends is right around the corner.
- 31:28It's going to come to theatres on October 14th without
- 31:32revealing too much. What can we expect from the
- 31:36highly anticipated finale? Yeah.
- 31:40Well, I can't tell you any good info because I would be giving
- 31:44away way too much. But the movie is going to be
- 31:47really exciting, and we worked hard on it.
- 31:51So I'm excited for everybody to see.
- 31:52It was the same Halloween family and yeah.
- 31:55Check it out. You're going to love it.
- 31:56Oh, I am so excited. I'm going night of I will be
- 31:59there. I cannot wait.
- 32:02Emily. Thank you so much for all of
- 32:04your inside. This has been so much fun
- 32:06talking to you about scream Halloween, Halloween, kills 13,
- 32:09a musical, which is on Netflix right now.
- 32:12I just I'm obsessed with your work and you were just So bad
- 32:16ass like that. I just I love having you here.
- 32:19Thank you. I appreciate that.
- 32:21Was really nice to meet you guys as well.
- 32:23So, thank you so much. Hello.
- 32:41Blogcast listeners is Elizabeth Joy glass co host and producer
- 32:44of The Art of costume blogcast. Thank you so much for listening.
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- 33:27That was incredible. I love her talking about the
- 33:31distressing. I that just the whole process
- 33:35acetates me, right? I could talk about that forever,
- 33:38keep imagining being on set. And every time someone gets
- 33:41stabbed like that entire costume team is just fry like, you know,
- 33:45like that Ben Affleck mean where he's like, in a dark alleyway,
- 33:48smoking. I'm like everything for the
- 33:52Keanu, Reeves with the sandwich, like just so exhausting.
- 33:58And, like, people get stabbed in this film like every other, he
- 34:03it's like the waist, like how she talked about.
- 34:05It sounds like it's just so crazy.
- 34:07And there's just like so much juggling and like coordination.
- 34:10They have to do, but like you look at the film and it seems
- 34:13effortless. Honestly, like they did their
- 34:17job. So well, it looks like Like they
- 34:19didn't do anything. My yeah and boy was Judy.
- 34:23Greer has Christmas sweaters. Such like a for shagging for
- 34:27this podcast. It's like where is this
- 34:30Warehouse? I need this.
- 34:32Oh my gosh I bought a Christmas sweatshirt off at see the other
- 34:35day. See this is what I'm talking
- 34:37about. Everyone like giving strong
- 34:40Karen, Judy, Greer Vibes, over here.
- 34:43It's September and I brought bought a Christmas sweatshirt to
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- 36:51I recorded the first part and then I stopped it.
- 36:53Sorry, so you haven't done conclusion.
- 36:55Okay so we're gonna yeah we're fine I remember just in time.
- 36:59Are you recording? I'm recording now yeah.
- 37:02Then working that again. Sorry.