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Episode 235: Insiders (SG-1 10.04) · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

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Get into Gate episode two hundred and thirty five, talking Stargate SG one back
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in the Milky Way. My name is Mitch, joining me the Gibsons.
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We've got a Maddie this time. Yao, y'ao over to you brandan get
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a people? Hellou to one? How dare you assume their people? Yeah?
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That is bad, that's not bad. Yeah, I mean after last
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week, we could have so many new Raccoon listeners just sitting there eating grapes.
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Sorry, yeah, you're right, going berries, going one and a
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half to an anus while they listened to the podcast. You know, that's
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what put us on the world stage. This fair city that we live in,
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about a year ago, it was a big thing where there was a
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school where a bunch of like fifteen year old girls were Oh no, you're
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not quite but yeah, they're all getting around and you know, demanding to
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be treated like cats at school and wearing costumes and shit. I think I
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don't think it lasted very long, but it was like a big deal.
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I saw a lot of I saw a lot of fairies. That's the Supernova
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convention last weekend. Yeah, right, it was, Yeah, there was
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some fairies there. It's hard to tell, isn't it like it is when
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you go there? I said it to my kids, actually, like I
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took them and I said this, this is one of the more I said.
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People that don't live in this world will mock this to the end of
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their days. But everyone that's here, I said, this is the most
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inclusive place you will ever go, because it doesn't matter whether you spent eight
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grand on a ten foot suit or you've literally thrown on, you know,
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a bit of cardboard that you've cut out with a bit of string. I
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said, if you've put in effort to do anything, even if you come
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normally dressed and you're just coming there to pay for a ticket, everyone treats
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you exactly the same. In his underwear, he was literally wearing just like
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red box a short. He was like a techan or a street fighter character
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or whatever. He's literally walking around a pair of red silkies and nothing else.
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I'd tell you what, if you were going to row there's kids around,
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at least tuck it back. If you were going to escape from jail
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or like a mental asylum or something and wanted to like hide out from the
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cops for a couple of hours to go to a NERD convention because no one's
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going to think that you're like, no, I guess just I'm a robber.
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Famously, Daniel Radcliffe did that one you dressed up as Boba Fett walked
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around New York Comic Con. Oh, I thought you're going to say,
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dressed up as Harry Potter. Well even better, just recently Charlie Cox Daredevil
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painted his face up as Bluey and went to like New York Comic Con dressed
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as Bluey. Oh blue face. Yeah, unfortunately, Well, actually the
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best one as far as like when you said Daniel Redcliffe and hawd he have
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done Harry Potter. Remember Brian Cranston actually wrought wore a rubber mask of Brian
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Cranston from Breaking Back. Everyone's like, oh my god, it's the best
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man I've ever seen. And then he went to the panel for Breaking Bad.
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I think it was like yeah, like actually San Diego Comic Con and
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walked up on stage and everyone's like, oh, this is a great guy.
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And then he takes off this mask and it's actually the guy, Like
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that's that's brilliant stuff. Good on him. That wasn't there one a couple
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of years ago with Charlie Cox dressed up as Loki and Tom Hiddleston dressed up
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as Dead Evil because they're old roommates, so they're actually good. Yeah,
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they're good friends, and they dressed up as each other's character's and Andrew Garfield,
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oh yeah that's right. Yeah, yeah, good people. We're here
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to talk about other good people and many of a lot of one person with
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many balls, many balls. There's an episode of Starger. We've got to
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talk about that. Yeah. I was hoping you might get like a collage
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of all the time they said ball because it was countless. Do you know
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what I completely forgot this episode existed. Wow, me too. I turned
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on this episode expecting to be the cabin episode from next week. Actually this
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is the I think. This is the reason why I'm like, this is
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enough of the ball. I think because I'm like, finally they're ending that.
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But no, Yeah, it wasn't until probably about fifteen minutes into the
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episode, when they're like Carter's talking to one of the bars and he's saying
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like, oh, I'm the real body. He's like, oh, obviously
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I had to put a tracker in myself as well. Yeah. I was
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like, oh yeah, this kind of sounds familiar. And then right at
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the end, I was like, oh, it sets up the quest I
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had. I pulled a mitch. I completely forgot this episode even existed.
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Did you watch it? Yeah, because it's felt like a new episode of
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it. It felt like a new episode of Stargate because I was like,
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I just loved it. How all the bars kept their own numbers, like
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just so the rest of SG one knew which was which bar. Yeah,
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once they got together, they could have just like taken that. I wonder
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if that velcroadon or they had to swap entire onesies. Let's mess with them.
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Let's good, give me sick, give it to me, um dumb
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as, I'm six insiders. Now, remember this synopsis from last week when
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I said the Pegasus Project was short, but it's all you needed, And
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I said, next week it's even shorter. So here we go. The
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team makes a pact with an old enemy to fight their common foe and the
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results are disastrous? Did you even need? What else? What else is?
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Yeah? You know, definitely put it in for the Pegasus project.
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Is you know I've got like several versions of the Stargate music that I use,
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and it all like I can chop off like there's like three or four
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seconds, you know, it's sort of in different beats, and I trim
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it based on how long and it and it just happens to be that it
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always works out pretty well spot on. When I finish goes in like that,
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that four seconds, I chop off perfectly. Whether I add one,
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take two off this, I don't know what I'm gonna do. You hear?
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Do you need to go forward to the two two hundred episode where they
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make the metajerk where they go, no one does credits anymore, just throw
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titler cart and get on with it, and and then that's it. Okay,
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Well, I was thinking I like that better. But whether or not
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you'll do it easy one for you. Just cut it off at the end
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of the sentence, not have any drop off. Now, you're right,
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that's what I'm and I mean, as you would have just heard, that's
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what I did. Yell. Brendan and I both actually what it sounds like,
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as he says, leave all this in look to be honest, May
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Treon get it? Yeah? I didn't. I actually didn't mind this episode.
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I forgot I would have forgotten it and probably on the ball thing here,
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I was. I enjoyed this because I know I enjoyed this bar because
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of it's just a ba thing like that we're making Stu one making dumb decisions
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like trusting him or like thinking we don't trust him, but we're ahead of
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him, We're two steps ahead of him because we know he's probably trying to
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backstab us. So if we know that he's going to do that, and
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he knows that they know that we know sort of stuff, and it's still
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everything played into his plan. But even as an audience member, I'm like,
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well, it's and still works within world. Obviously, the reason why
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they do that is because they know the gould, even if it is copies
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of the same bloke would turn on each other. It's very much a thing
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that they would absolutely do or they are absolutely capable of. So it's understandable.
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You know, he's he's shown at times over the last couple of seasons
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he is willing to work with them for his benefit and if they fall well,
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he's eventually going to betray them. But there are a little common moments
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there where they cross over and want to work together. So I just realized
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what we should do in this episode though, and it's a lot of it's
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a lot of work for you in host Mitchell, right, But I feel
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like every time we say ball on this episode, yes, you need to
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rotate between parts of the intro that the ball, the ba ba blood for
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a ball. Just every time we say his name, just put in a
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little a little snippet of that. Okay, Well, and when we do
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that, I'll try if I can get those two bits, I will try
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to do that. Yeah, and every time we play it, everyone listening,
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drink. Oh jesus, we're want to kill anyone. We do like
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our listeners. And I mean I would say, now try then to say
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ball, not as much as what you would want to now that you set
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that challenge, But I know, especially talking to Brendan, he will take
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that as a challenge because like when I'm editing, you know, and hey
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to other Jacob, when I edit, I'm also doing other stuff. And
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with a scene, I'm like i'm editing, I'm making cuts and letting it
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play and I'm okay, we're good. We're good. Okay, we're good.
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And I'm washing dishes as soon as I get my hands wet. Someone
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drops an f bom and I'm like, oh, forgot, okay, go
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back, drama hands, make that cut, come back, and then someone
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gets uh uh and it's me, So I forgot that I was going to
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do that. In that moment. I'm like, oh, for God's sake,
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Mitchell, go back, make that cut. And I'm like, okay,
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I'll just sit here and do nothing and edit and then nothing goes wrong
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for ten minutes, so I can happens. CACB Jacob with a K actually
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messed with me the other day after that episode came out, and he's like,
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what was Mitch having to go at me about? For no, no,
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no, Jacob with a sea. Yeah, Cake Like, oh,
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okay, we will call him Cacob him cake from which one's cake the guy
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that doesn't like okay okay but does but doesn't three star Jacob three three star
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CAKEB, three star CAKEB. All right, it's done? Did you mention
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that? Written by Alan McCollough and directed by Peter F. Wost West.
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I like to say, Wosty, if you're gonna put it, that's because
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you're woke. Thank you. So no one's ever called me that before.
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Just this, just this, Peter F. Woke ship. Let's let's bring
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it back our cash bomber heading straight for Shan Mountain. Yeah, and I
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remember that. Yeah, me neither. I think the thing that annoyed me
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the most is that I was hoping this would be the real bar, you
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know, or at least one of them would be the real bar, because
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I just get annoyed so much with this because I feel like we never get
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a resolution to that, which is the real bar. Yeah, I think
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you're correct, Like, you know, in my mind, like quest bar
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is the real quote unquote real ball, But I don't think you never know,
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like obviously what is it spoiler alert, but for what was it continuum?
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They say, oh, this is the last Ball clone. We think
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we think, but and then obviously it's a whole then alternate timeline reality thing
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with with that bar. So it's just like that's true. Yeah, it's
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kind of It's very frustrating because I loved I loved him in the in the
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first episode that we saw him. Yeah, with Jack O'Neill, I think
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I think I think I preferred a pofus the way they would kill him and
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then find him way to bring him back, like yes, oh, we're
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going to kill him, we're going to see his body either we're going to
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give his body to Socar and then socr is going to put him into a
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psychophagous and give him a month of up to seven of nine face and then
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that's one. I mean, come on, it's a it's a silver like
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curve shaped plate around wallow right in front of you. There. No,
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I've got a I've got a Norse Devil's twenty twenty one member sticker. Oh
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yeah, great people. Yeah, I've always said that. But yeah,
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speaking of Blood of Soko, Blood of Cosby, how the fuck did Carter?
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Sorry, how the fricking hell did Carter say? Wow? S Mitch
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still has to cut that, unfortunately, but anyway, how the fuck Carter?
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Just from this point on, stop washing the dishes. Carter legitimately just
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gave in straight away to the balls, like legitimately and didn't even do anything
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weird to the hard drive, just literally gave him the addresses that he wanted
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without like they're like, oh, quick, kill Barrett. I'm like,
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good, really annoying guy that keeps cracking onto you. Yeah, at the
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most obscene moments. Okay, fine, I'll give you the secret to the
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galaxy. She was literally in hell being tortured by a poffus. Yeah,
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threatened her father to be killed with blood of Cosby Cosby, and she's still
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resisted. That's just like this is stupid. She's like, oh, he's
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not going to get out of the base, so like he wouldn't have an
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escape. I'm sorry, General, don't worry about it. God, I
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could have given him some fake stuff, but I didn't think you'd get away,
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so I gave him the It was. It was a cluster of idiots.
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Like the biggest idiot for me, though, was the guy who the
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the officer don't you in there? The officer who let Barrett in. There
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was the officer who had orders from General Angry to not let anybody in,
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specifically Barrett. The whole episode, it's Barrett, go for yourself. Barrett,
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go yourself. We've got thirty bars when not even giving you one just
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in case he is the real one. Barrett, go yourself. He walks
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up to this episode, the one guy guarding a ball splashes an nid badge
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any caves. It's like, well, I guess he got onto this level
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if he if he didn't get killed when the bars escaped. He's fired as
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just making up for the stuff that Mitch didn't have to edit for you early
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yeah, added extra Oh my god, and sometise moments I get there's sometimes
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there's clean ones, and I just like I skipped them all together, and
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I'm like, I felt like that was you know, what's the big bitch
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you miss? Like, I do need to watch the South Yea, there
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is a couple I see. I'm pretty diligent, I think, and then
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I problem with that. But then I listened back to it the next day
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just to double check. It's like a live air check. It's like it's
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already published, bro like screenshot. I'm like, I'll fix that later.
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And I fixed like two out of every five. My favorite one is when
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you we hear you edit the ship and then missed the about three seconds later.
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Those are my favorites and done you never miss that. I always listening
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because I've got a soundboard in front of him. I was just thinking of
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a great thing. Had Carter really thought ahead and went, no, I'm
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not going to cave. I've been in hell with the blood of Cosby.
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I'm not going to cave. I'll give him a disc but it's not going
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to have the real thing, and they could have brought real world ship into
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it. And then he gets up to the back up to his ship and
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he plugs into the computer. She could have just not put it on that
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hard drive. Yeah no, don't don't put it on. You know what
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they should have put on. We got Rick roll and then all the other
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bars start dancing, get pissed up. You do ball the best they rolled.
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You just got rickrolled up on the little like the Ball hologram ship that
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we used to see a pofus on. We actually get like a Rick Ashley
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and you know eight balls run the train on that. Charlotte Mayweather check to
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that song as well. I thought you're talking about car because when she came
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in, Yeah, creepy, it's like she just caved. Let's kill Barrett.
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Can we talk about Barrett? Oh? What the hell? Man?
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Hate? Because like that was my first time I wrote down. I was
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like, Barrett, I haven't seen him in a long time. Season seven,
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I think remember when was it Pete like the one like the one that,
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yeah, the one that the man is happening directly where they the girl
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the girl in the cage. Yeah, pretty sure. That was the last
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time we saw Barrett And was that the one where I'm just thinking of the
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last one where he was like, hey, yeah, yeah, how are
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you going? She's good. He's like, who you he broke up with
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that? I know you mean Pete? Yeah, whatever, it doesn't matter.
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You want to hook up now? And she's like, yeah, maybe
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not, like that was the last time. Yeah, that would have been
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the last fawning for it. And this one he's like, look, hey,
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I know we've got some real tension. We've got to work and she
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creeps up to her like behind her ear. My first note was a bet
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agent. Barrett's breath stinks. That's why no one likes him. He's just
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like nice guy, but he's she's straight up or she's straight up. Friends
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only you're a friend at best? At best? Yeah, him hanging around
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Carter as creepy as and then he just goes crazy. I'm like, was
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he is he a gould? Those goods? I think I think we don't
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even get resolution on his he's brainwashing until the next time we see him or
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something like that, Like they kind of leave that up in the air.
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At the end of this, he gets dragged away and then we just,
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well, I guess he's getting water boarded. I don't know, but yeah,
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I mean, I don't know whether it's the fact that Alan McCullough is
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like a new writer this season or whatever, but I feel like everyone was
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very out of character, like Baal in particular, like Ball of All quote
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unquote people should know better than to get the host and the symbiote confused,
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but he kept calling Varla Catesh, and when like Varla was trying to get
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information out of him, he's referencing like battles, like space battles they've had
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where you killed all these men that would have been Kotesh. Yeah, he's
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a old he knows the difference between a symbio and a host. Why would
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he Why would he be treating Vala with any form of respect knowing that Katsh
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is dead? Like yeah, I feel like he said Katsh the first time
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as an insult, which is fine, but then when she's trying to interrogate
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him, I felt like, even if he's playing along with it, I'm
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like, then surely she says he's not. Yes, its not effective for
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me, And I know last season they did mention. It's like when you
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know, Vala had to go back to the desert planet and was like put
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on trial and stuff. And it's established that for a little while, even
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after she was freed from Kontesh, she went back to some planets like that
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planet and still pretended that she was Ktesh. But it's like she wasn't commanding
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her tucks to go into battle with Baal while she was Vala. True,
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But yeah, are you assumed not? Yeah, you would assume not giving
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it when we meet her, she's like on an Alkesh on her own.
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I mean she somehow got Carl Warrior arma. But you know, yeah,
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true, good point. But did she get it? Yeah? Yeah?
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Did she? How did she get that? I never even thought about that.
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Maybe wasn't it the first time we saw the cul and oh it was
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that episode where where Daniel's like, oh, you're not my type and I'm
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kind of afraid I'm yours. Maybe maybe she had to herself some one of
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those sea through bastards, Well what you're gonna do? Like there's some some
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slimy albino dads like that. I mean they come prelubed, so god,
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don't you reckon. It's kind of weird. It's like just back to that,
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Oh, we need your access code. I already tried Jack is Hot
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one, two, three, four, That clearly didn't work. I know
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you love him, don't denied eh O'Neill with two o's if you know,
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yeah, god yeah, But yeah, that was the bit of the episode
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that I was like, this is dumb unless and I feel like they've done
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this in this postmodern era of Sam. They've made her dumber than she used
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to be in the early seven the early episodes. Well, they didn't have
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Daniel in this episode to do the dumb someone had. Yeah, but I
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feel like she even did this. Remember when the Lucius Alliance they stole heaps
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of shit and then they beamed out, And like, I feel like Carter's
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stuffed up like this a few times in the last couple of seasons, which
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is uncharacteristic of her. Probably works reverse to a lot of characters across TV
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shows, where if you got like an idiot, eventually you got to stop
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making them. You've got to give them something a little bit more dramatic,
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a little bit more meaningful to do, Whereas now with her, it's like
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she's been the smart person. It's like, eh, I'll just dumb her
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down a little bit for something different. So no, no, no,
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but that's an absolute detriment to the character. Like you can make her fun,
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you can make her lighter, but don't make her making stupid decisions.
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You've already given her a greater rank. Yeah, like yeah, I just
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I just wish she had let him kill Barrett. I think that's my biggest
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thing. Yeah, yeah, even if she gave him the gate addresses,
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I feel like Barrett needed to die. Well, I mean they've killed off
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Fraser. Yeah, yeah, exactly, like they killed off my tooth.
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Yeah, like who at this point if Barrett comes back in and they do
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kill him or Sam does give him out to you go, I'm not Barrett.
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No one's doing the irony being is like they're two episodes away from cancelation
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anyway. It was like it was like when two hundred. I mean,
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obviously they would have been a little bit ahead of that in production, but
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no, wonder they canceled it once they saw this episode be like yeah,
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but yeah, so it's like so I wonder if it's like, if they
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knew this was going to be the last season at this point, maybe they
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would have killed Barrett. So it's like he's that dire of a character.
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I reckon. They canceled the show because they saw this this, Oh is
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this what your teas last week? Is what I teas? These are the
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body doubles. That is not Cliff Sion. Hang on, what, Oh
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my god. That looks like if they made a bad like video game rendition
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of Simon. What's he's like if they tried to draw Cliff Simon from memory.
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Zoom out now, zoom out and press play that's zoom out, Press
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play this on the social Simon. That's not that's Cloff Simon, and he's
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a parachute and he's gonna get stopped at security by t s A. There's
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nothing to play there, we go. You keep watching another one, another
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one, like a double of the double. They made a double of the
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double. Oh my god, like they wasted budget making a double of the
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double instead of a double of him of Cliff Jesus, Yeah, that's great.
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I just war I have to have to get that cloth Simon Jesus.
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Hello, GLOFs I allow you long teram. He's actually one of the clones.
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He's like Mike, hold on, hello, my name is Cloff Simon,
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remember, and you mean so hut she tastes my peppy Steve like he's
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that clone, the clone from last week. He may have a bit of
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brain damage. But do you know what, I wish they've got the real
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Cliff Simon. He's the one doing the turn to look at the like at
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the at what they're going to up cutting in another version of him in post.
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Why not get the double to do the unless unless cloth Simon is a
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triplet and they just cloths. Yeah, they hired, they hired triple.
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They just they just put a cast and call out that's the worst. Any
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South South African or Middle Eastern triplet, please apply and we'll paint on a
23:03
goat in the background. Yeah, we're just established he's the French stand in
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the French French Canadian French Canadian. Yeah, it's funny. I wish they'd
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done is now. And obviously I hate referencing Rick and Morty, but it's
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gotten ship now, so it's fine. They changed they changed the voice.
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Sorry, I just got confusing because you go, it's gone to ship now
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now. Really, but I'm like, hang on, you never liked it
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in the first place. Four and five actually kind of turned me around where
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I was like, this is an a horrible show. Can't you get to
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season four or something you hate? I hate watched season one, two and
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three. There's an there's an ad at the moment because Jerry Seinfeld is coming
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out. I thought that, yeah, and there's a there's the bit that
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we're playing in the ad. I've got to try and find it. And
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he talks about that. He's like, nobody watches Boys and where Everyone's dream,
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what everyone's dream? Jerry Seinfeld is bad stream everything now and think we're
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streaming wandering around your world place trying to recruit new viewers into whatever stupid show.
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You're like, Jerry, you've got to watch his show. Okay,
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I'll check it out. Okay, but the first four seasons are not good.
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A spare five hundred bucks tickets? Yeah, I didn't. I don't
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know how much it is. He wouldn't be cheap, no, I know
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that. But I feel like if Stargate came back now, what they do
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with all the ball clones is they'd make him like all the ricks. They'd
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be like a chef. There'd be a chef ball, there'd be a Prince
24:36
Ball, there'd be a you know there'd be a fisherman's bowl. Yeah,
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you know there'd be a steampunk ball. No, they'd be like South Park,
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make him a girl and make him get Apparently. I heard some of
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the some of the neck beers that went that, like went to hate watch
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the Marvels were sitting in the cinema and like, when the Marvels was playing,
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they're like making a woman and he could Gee. I was just like,
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oh my god, why why would you pay to go to the Marvels
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on opening weekend and contribute to opening weekend just to hate watch it? Yeah?
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Okay, it only made forty seven million dollars, but it actually made
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twenty dollars less than what it says because I paid. Oh damn it,
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I went against my own thing. I have literally nothing else for this,
25:18
But I guess we should talk about the bars. It's like, oh,
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yeah, we the implants. We don't have, like we got a screen
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to protect from from beaming out. Yeah, next minute they went full Wraith
25:34
from a couple of weeks ago. They all got together around a campfire and
25:37
started chanting and then the beam out. Yeah, and then Landry comes in,
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who took my hard drive? There's sensitive things on there. My god,
25:52
this Landry's a freak game. Landry's got swey to god Man. Landry's
25:56
got a new badge too, He's got his space wings. Even though I
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wouldn't do any of this ship. I didn't even think that lucious guy the
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other galaxy would do this. Like I've done so many homicides and homoicidemides,
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okay that it's not even fun. I believe that's called a hate crime,
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of course it is. Actually, Yeah, why don't they call that like
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if someone gets murder, why don't they call it a homocide? Like if
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there's reason, if there's genocide and patricide and all that kind of stuff.
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Could you imagine that being reported in the New Yeah, death in the Valley
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of the Doubles been a double homo side. That's a homo side. Yeah,
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Hey, something to look for moving forward. And I believe it was
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Craig who pointed this out to me during our time. I believe you need
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to pronounce it the American wayg Crag, Craig, Crag, Craig, I
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thought it was. We said that Greg Crag Crag. We've got Jacob with
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a Greg with Greg Cragg pointed out to me during the first watch, if
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you look closely at Vala, because Varla has like an SG uniform. Now
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she's not part of SG one, she's like a provisional member of the SGC,
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but she has a special uniform. Her jacket is actually more form fitted,
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so when you look at Yeah, but then if her sleeves have been
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tailored to be quite tight fitting, so if you look at her patches,
27:32
they're all custom patches that have had to be made smaller. So when you
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look at Karter, Carter wears the same jacket as the boys with quite puffy,
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puffy sleeves, fortunately, so that her patches on her shoulders are the
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same size as all the boys. But for some reason with Varla, I
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don't know if they thought there was some kind of sex appeal in putting her
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in you know, head to toe camo or you know, but then making
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it slightly more form fitting. So if you look at her like SGC badges
27:56
and stuff moving forward, it's actually a smaller side on her shoulder than what
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the rest of the team are wearing, which is a very weird thing to
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do, especially this late in the show. Yeah, I mean, I
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guess we're just wearing black singles. Yeah, he's not even wearing a jacket
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anymoyeah. But it's like, yeah, like Cam and Sam and Daniel are
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all wearing like the same jacket with the same sized patches, the same ones
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that O'Neil wore. But Varla's got these little custom tiny patches, Yes,
28:22
little lady patches. It's a strange thing, strange thing to hone in on
28:26
here. But I still can't believe they called him Cam and her name is
28:30
Sam. Yeah, it doesn't make sam. No one brought that. Cam.
28:36
Mitchell is one of the worst names in It's the worst name ever.
28:40
Yeah, and bad for this show as well, because we already have a
28:41
Mitchell, so it's yeah, we already got one, guys. Yeah,
28:45
yeah, but Cameron Cameron. It's like two first names, two first names.
28:49
Yeah, bad enough. Yeah. I think they maybe just did it
28:53
just for that camshaft joke. I don't know what do you reckon that came
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later. I don't even know what it is. Well, his call sign
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is shaft shaft, you damn right, because cam shaft is a part of
29:07
a vehicle. I believe it's like part of an engine of a car.
29:11
Yeah, so he's he's Cameron Mitchell that gets caught shortened to Cam, which
29:17
then gets extended to cam shaft, which then gets shortened to shaft being his
29:22
call sign, which is a black private investigator. God. Yeah, it
29:26
just I mean, I mean, that's that's that makes it a very believable
29:32
fictional character like that. That's a lot. That's a lot to get to.
29:34
That's how you get nicknames. Yeah. But but yeah, for season
29:40
nine of a television show, you're like, really, that's what that's right,
29:44
And there's two great iconic names, Daniel Jackson and Jack O'Neill, and
29:48
they've got the similar names already from the movie. Yeah, let's make it
29:52
run with Yeah, so we've got a Jacket a Jackson. Now let's have
29:55
a Cam and a Sam. Yeah. We we finally got rid of one
29:57
of the Jacks. Yeah, so let's instead of you know, giving everyone
30:00
unique names, let's have another crossover where we've got a Can in the SAMDP.
30:06
Yeah. I think that about, like, you know, we've got
30:07
out of long running soaps on Australian TV what Lincoln used to be on Home
30:11
and Away and it's been so long running and you've had some like iconic characters
30:15
along the way that had like, you know, straighty one eighty names.
30:18
Back in the day you had you had your Jason or your Brendan or your
30:22
Matthew or something like that. Jeff, Sure Lincoln was a Jeff named Kem.
30:26
Yep, there wouldn't be one other Jeff in that show's history. So
30:30
he gets that and there will never be another one. It's like they retire
30:33
the name because you don't want to get to this stage and go, oh,
30:36
I love my favorite character was Jeff. You're like, which one there
30:38
was seven? You can't do that. And so like by the name,
30:41
they're like, oh, Jakata and it's like like this normal, like very
30:45
white Australian person walks up and the beaches of Northern Sydney and it's like,
30:48
oh my, this is my friend Jakata. And you're like what, It's
30:51
like, we've literally used every other name out there for a basic white girl.
30:55
Wasn't there a surf bro on at the same time Linco was and they
30:57
called Romeo or something. This is like a dude rocket around called Romeo.
31:00
Yep, come on, guys, Yeah, But what I love is I
31:03
think it's a it's a like making fun of that. But in the new
31:07
Star Trek parody show Lower Decks, the animated show, one of the guys
31:11
on that his first name is Samanthan, so they've given him the male version,
31:18
so his names, his name's ensign Samanthan Rutherford just rolls off the tongue
31:23
they gave a man. And isn't the Lower Deck supposed to be like a
31:27
funny version. Apparently it's not. It's not great. It's not great because
31:33
I assumed it would have been like a family guy or a morty trying to
31:40
be but it's not right. Yeah, that's a shame. It's a shame.
31:45
Yeah, yeah, Craig loves it. I've got it. I've got
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anything. I've got to do a podcast for it next week, a wrap
31:52
up season four, Craig. Craig wanted to do like like we did,
31:53
did the the Card podcast, we did episode episode that, we did Strange
31:57
New Worlds episode episode and Craig, god, you wander that for Lower Dex.
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I'm like, no, really, let's just do a season rap.
32:04
How we we just do that? I remember people like that Discovery show.
32:07
Oh that's still got one more season to calm. There's why who's watching it.
32:09
It's been canceled, but there's one more season in the can that they're
32:13
holding off on. I don't understand it. I'm gonna hate watch it because
32:15
it's terrible. Yeah, Like when I heard they were singing that that song
32:22
about the reboots, five thousand, six hundred reboots, that was that was?
32:29
That was before the show premier aad was it? I only saw it
32:32
after after halfway three season one? I think yeah, no, that that
32:36
was part of the pre season one that was then coming back because it was
32:39
a reboot. Right. What's even worse is when you watch none of them
32:43
the reboots. The Strange New World Musical will break you. Yeah, but
32:46
at least that's part of a Like I haven't seen that episode, but the
32:52
songs are terrible. It's so c W it will break you. At one
32:55
point out of nowhere, Klingon start singing K pop. There's long Do you
33:00
get the joke because Klingons start with K so they start singing K pop even
33:06
though for thirty years Klingons have always done cling on opera. That's the one
33:08
thing that Klingons have is they have cling on opera. Did you want that?
33:13
Did you want wanted to stay in Cannon. No, no, apparently.
33:17
Now if you if you like things in canon, you're just old and
33:20
outdated. Oh really, you've just got a roll with nothing making sense and
33:24
not worry about girl and maker. Gee, hey, couple of couple of
33:30
housekeeping bits and pieces. Oh this is the second eff of I get SG
33:36
whenever not to feature a character from the film with the absence of Daniel Jackson,
33:42
not to feature a character. Yeah, the second obviously every episode that
33:47
Daniel was missing from in season six, Jack was here. Yeah, and
33:51
I believe it would have been more what I don't know what the first episode
33:54
was. I can't remember, but there was one episode where there was no
33:57
Jack and no Daniel night walk no night Walkers. Remember when when Jack was
34:01
in his tube after Oh yeah, and Daniel wasn't there. Daniel was ascended,
34:07
so it was just Jonas Carter and Tilk. Yeah. Yeah, I
34:12
think that would have been the first one. And yeah, we well he
34:15
was in the film. Yeah, that's what I mean, rattling through in
34:16
his mind. And what is this episode one ninety eight something like, sure,
34:21
I'll take it word for yeah, Oh yeah, of course it would
34:23
because twopisodes time is two hundred. You're not just a pretty face. That's
34:27
a huge run. Yeah. Yeah, to have pretty much always featured a
34:30
character from the film. Yeah, and this is the first of four episodes
34:35
this season with no Daniel Jackson because Loew's Rosemary Lamb Shanks. The sequel just
34:42
popped through via a Lexa doig Hy via Alexa Duyk pork Yeah, gets some
34:49
pork Shanks. Yeah, pork Shanks. Did I think that's just a rib?
34:52
Isn't it a pork shank? Just a rib? Anyway, Michael Shanks
34:58
has a new baby at home, so they wanted to time was the fan.
35:01
So no, I'm assuming there'll be no Lamb for a while either,
35:04
no doctor Lamb. Oh right, we haven't yet. I feel like we
35:07
haven't had it for a while anyway. I don't think no one's missing it.
35:10
No one's missing Yeah. She definitely hasn't been here all season so far.
35:14
I mean we're only three four episodes in. Like, no one's interested
35:20
in that storyline now because they're both terrible actors. She wasn't even in Crusade
35:24
when to Shanxy's wife when Varla took over Philip Jackson's body, Remember the last
35:31
time. So why was Vila in this episode? Like it didn't actually make
35:36
any sense for her to be in it at all, because she didn't actually
35:40
I guess because she's she's a professor, she's a provisional member of the SGC
35:45
now. But what I was trying to like when they said, oh can
35:46
you get us in? I thought she was going to dress up as Kotsh
35:50
again, which would have been nice. Yeah, that would have been cool.
35:52
Yeah, but she bounces in with the well certainly because for her like
35:59
trying to pretend like, hey, they don't know, but I'm just lex
36:02
the doig into IMDb and changed auto corrected to legal doig. Sorry. Continue.
36:08
They're not going through dramas, are they. Yeah, I'm like surely
36:12
you know they've got cameras. Yeah, And like I say, hey,
36:15
well, if I start taking you on the table, they're going to think
36:19
it's a little bit sust here, like at least kiss him, God,
36:22
give him, you know, stick your hand on his pants, like just
36:25
just something. Yeah, I mean she doesn't Daniels, Well, he's in
36:30
close and seorad of like bending over instead of finger make him smell, you
36:37
know, bars into that too, make you smell it. It's like she's
36:43
kinky. Okay, shet me. She puts one, She puts one finger
36:47
in his ass, and then she's gotta He's got to sniff each finger in
36:51
succession a figure out which one it was his eyes closed? Did it feel
36:55
like a thumb or did it feel like a pinky? Was it a pinky?
37:00
Yeah? No, the other clone guessed it. Oh yeah, is
37:07
this you? Or is this the clone? Oh wow? I didn't even
37:10
get to first base. I didn't even I didn't even wash my hands between
37:14
seeing the last quite about yeah? Actually, did she try with another clone?
37:20
Like that would make it sense? Really? Because you do it,
37:22
you do. It's like a good rehearsal. It's like, I'm going to
37:24
try Plan A on this guy. Didn't work, I gonna try Plan A
37:29
with the twist. It's like a time loop in a Yeah, you can
37:30
try again and again and again. That's a great idea. Holy shit,
37:35
not to bring it back to your favorite character. Brain And the last time
37:37
we saw Dr lamb Lexa Doig was episode thirteen of last season Ripple Effect right
37:45
episode, and then we don't see her again until episode seventeen of this season.
37:50
I guess obviously she was on maternity leave. That's a shame, but
37:52
damn so total she only did eleven episodes of Stargate SG one. I mean
37:58
that were over two seasons forty so it's potential she did eleven. That would
38:01
just seem I mean, not that they've established whether you know, she's partnering
38:06
up or anything, right, but it would be a great Stargate gag just
38:08
for her to have been walking around, especially if there is you know that
38:12
the fans the whole thing, both both Tilk and Mitchell look at her.
38:22
Wait, wait, what share behind is your baby? Chocolate vanilla or chen?
38:30
Is it? Is it shaft or shaft? Yeah, chocolate vanilla swell
38:36
shaft of shaft, Yeah, shaft. But yeah, Ba back to shift,
38:43
BA fingering balls of course, grabbing balls and fingering. I mean,
38:49
you know shift obviously I will have you know, heightened senses and all that
38:52
kind of stuff. Heightened senses. I just made that up stick with cannon,
38:59
Naddy. I mean, they've got super strength. Just go to the
39:00
guys. They've got super strength. So that's gotta mean like they've got you
39:05
know, they can smell shit, I don't know, extra hard, Dick,
39:08
Sure, extra, specially especially with a thumbup your ass. But yeah,
39:15
so I wonder if, like if if if Vala back to Vala finger
39:21
the best cutaway? If Vala sticks are pinky in number sixteen and then goes
39:24
to you know, number twelve and sticks to her other pinky in number twelve,
39:30
and then she holds both pinkies up to number twelve, is he going
39:32
to know which one's his sense and which one's number sixteen cents? Or is
39:37
it like their twins and they all feel a finger up their ass at the
39:38
same time? Do they all have it? I guess they all have the
39:42
same fingerprint. Yeah, like she's she's in number two's us and three and
39:47
four feelings? Oh hello, Yeah, so they're obviously clones. Yeah what
39:54
check their pants? Whoever came is a clone? What would a human centipede
39:59
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