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- Kiki George: What happens when a quick after school hangout takes a turn for the unthinkable? This is the Minor Mischief Podcast and this is the disappearance of Desiree Turner. Welcome back to the show. Welcome back to another episode of the Minor Mischief Podcast. I am your host and homegirl for the time being, Mrs. Kiana Amir. And thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for taking the time to hang out with me. Now listen. Listen. I know I have some explaining to do because I promised just last episode, which came out over a month ago. That I would not have any more bye weeks, that I would not go missing, that I wouldn't just leave you hanging high and dry. But I have such a good explanation for where I have been. for the end of the Black History Month episode, I had the story picked out, I had it researched, I had started on writing my script, I made my schedule for the week so that I could have it recorded, edited, and distributed by Thursday afternoon, right? I had everything set. I was ready. I'm telling you guys, I was fully prepared to do my episode. I'm not gonna tell you what it was about because now I have to shelf it for another time. Probably next Black History Month. But right as I was getting everything done, my husband got the call that he has been waiting for for the last eight years, and it was time to head on over to the hospital, and he was blessed with a double organ transplant. So as you can imagine, we have been in and out of the hospital, we have been in and out of Transplant clinic, they have switched his anti-rejection meds like at least four times. And mama is tired. And even though I know this is not about me, my brain is scrambled like a well-fried egg. Like, I cannot formulate or complete a thought or sentence for all of the information that has been crammed into my head these last couple weeks. On top of that, so my personal laptop went bye-bye. Right. And I was you know what? Cool, it's cool. I still have my work laptop. I can still like type my script up on there, whatever the case may be. I had not even had the opportunity to start this script on my work laptop, and the screen went out on me. I cannot make this stuff up. I'm like, okay, who is against me releasing this episode? Because what is happening? I hadn't even started it yet. Like, it was just a thought in my head: like, you know what? Until you can replace your personal laptop. Just use your work laptop, it's not that big of a deal. And then boom, I couldn't even use my work laptop. But nevertheless, I got a new personal laptop. my work laptop is fixed now, and you know, we move on top of that. So that happened. Transplant hubby's in and out of the hospital. I'm back and forth between here and the hospital. All these things are going on. Computers died. Once I got everything fixed, everyone in the house except for Hubby Gas sake. Everyone in the house was running a high temperature. Everyone in the house has been coughing and sneezing. Everyone in the house was like, when I tell you we were the house of ill repute last week. And then this week, the pollen of the great state of North Carolina is like, you thought she was about to feel better. You thought you my face burns. She got so much. But you know what? It's all small things to a giant. And we are back. That man is back home. He's recovering well. He's doing really well this week. My mom's in town helping us out. I started going back to work in office because I hadn't been in office for like over a month. I started going back to work in office this week. So we're getting back into a sense of normalcy. But please pray for your friend because this has been a journey. But nevertheless, I'm so sorry to leave you hanging. We are back. We are here. I am so sorry to have kept you waiting. So since you've waited over a month for this episode, let's not delay it any further. Let's get into today's episode, shall we? Yes, I think we shall. So today we are introduced to Coulter Peterson and Jason Decker, who are our mischief makers, and Desiree Turner, who is the star of our show, but also unfortunately our victim. Now, Jason, it If you guys hear me call him Jason in this episode, please know that it's not on purpose, but I'm also not going back to edit it. Because his name is spelled J-A-Y-Z-O-N. And it is taking everything in me not to call this boy Jason. But it is pronounced Jason. But I know at some point I'm gonna read it and I'm gonna say Jason. So if you hear Jason, charge it to my head, not my heart, you know. It's it's all good. So for today's story, let's hop in the car or on a plane, depending on where you're at in the world. And we are headed to Smithfield, Utah. We are just all over the place, huh? So Smithfield, Utah is located in what's called the Cache Valley of Utah, and it's in the Utah, Idaho metro area. For those of you like myself that did not realize that Utah bordered Idaho, you're welcome. The Cache Valley was actually named after the French verb cacher. Casher. You know how French that accent. and Cashere means to hide. And the area is hidden within the foothills of the I guess Cache Mountains, mountains in Utah. I don't know. Now, Smithville, Utah is a relatively small town in Utah hosting less than 14,000 residents, and it's a real everybody knows everybody kind of town. It is known for its scenic mountain views, its historic charm, and areas that are great for hiking and skiing for those of you that like nature. Desiree Michelle Turner was born on April 24th, 2002, to her parents, Matt and April Turner. I'm unsure of the birth order of the other children, but Desiree was the middle child of five. She had four siblings, Brandon, Lizzie, Maddie, and Casey. And baby, I feel bad for Brandon because he was the only boy with four sisters. Nah. That is a tough job. Like, I have two older sisters and I have three older brothers. And my brother, especially my brother on my dad's side, I know good and well he's like Lord. I know he feels like he's raising us. Because if anything happens, if my car is making a strange noise, there was one time my tires, I did I had never I had never like dealt with my tires before. And I was probably 32 at this point. And I was seeing like Fuzz on my tires. And so I took a picture of it and I sent it to my brother. And I'm just like, what's going on with my tires? Like, can I still drive on it? He was like, You better drive to the nearest store and get those tires changed. That fuzz was thread. Like, you see what I'm saying? Like, and I'm not saying every girl is like me. I'm very much an endorsement. We have discussed that before on this show. But I'm just saying like Us sisters can be a hoot. And I know my older sister too calls him regularly and is just like, What do I do about this? What can I do about this? Why is this not working? My TV is acting up. Like I call all of my brothers. I literally, my brother Corey. If I'm looking for something or I'm trying to find a deal on something or I don't know how something works or I'm trying to make a good financial decision, I'm calling him. If there's something wrong with my car, I need to know where to find technology for cheap, my computer's not working, any technological stuff, I'm calling Stanley. Kyle, I'm calling for street knowledge. Take that how you will. I'm calling Kyle for street knowledge and street knowledge only. But let's get back into the story. So Desiree was a prominent student at Green Canyon High School in North Logan, Utah, Go Wolves. And it looks like Desiree was actually part of the flagship class of Green Canyon High School. It opened around 2017 somewhere. so basically in their area, there was one high school, I think it's called Skyview High School, and they split the school into like, I don't know if it was north or south, east or west, and then the students north of a certain place they put at this new school, and then the other students got to stay at the school they were at. So she was part of the grand opening class. Desiree was known as someone who loved life and lived fully. And I have told y'all about loving life, lighting up a room, grabbing life by the horns, or having a zest for life. Just don't do it. By all means hate life. Okay. You'll live forever. Desiree was said to have never met a stranger. She loved to go out to eat. My kind of girl. Listen to audiobooks. My kind of girl. And she loved movies. My kind of girl. She also loved to play outside in the dirt and discover all kinds of bugs, which aided in her receiving the nickname Bugs from her father at a young age. Above all, Desiree was an animal lover who loved to care for her horse Junior and her dog Snoopy on her family's small farm. Also, fun fact, Desiree was also an equestrian who practiced about six days a week and completed each summer in Western English and cult shows. She earned countless ribbons, trophies, and buckles. And I am not even going to pretend to know anything about horse shows, horse competitions. I won't even get on a horse. I'm almost six feet tall. I don't need to be up there. But I'm just going to assume these are very high honors. And congrats to you, Desiree, for these amazing accomplishments. Since hosting this podcast, though, I'm not gonna lie, I'm amazed with how much I don't know about the world around me. I'm also kind of a hermit, so there's that. But I'm learning a lot. Now, I have searched the many street corners of the World Wide Web. I went into some shady places. I went into some places where I'm just like, Lord, I'm about to catch something on my computer from out of here. And God forbid something happens to me. Go ahead and delete my browsing history because I know for a fact it looks suspicious as hell. At any rate, I searched far and wide, and I was not able to really find any information on Jason or culture's childhood or upbringing. I tried to find their birthdays. I tried to find their arrest records, a public page, screaming freedom, a Facebook page, a t-shirt company, a high school yearbook photo. Like I was trying to find any information I could on these young men. I don't know if it's all just redacted because they're minors. I'm not sure, but I was unable to I mean that couldn't be the case because I was able to find their names. I don't know. But I did my due diligence. I was not able to find anything. I'm sure someone's gonna comment and say, Hey, I was able to find something. I love that for you. I just wasn't able to find anything. But the Cash County Sheriff's website is actually kind of weird because I did go on there because I was like, okay, maybe I'll just do an inmate search. And I could not find the criminal search tab. And I'm like, I know this is public information, but I digress. Regardless, what I do know is that both boys attended Green Canyon High School. With Desiree and they had formed kind of a friendship. Desiree actually was Coulter's friend, and Jason and Coulter were best friends. But because everybody knew everybody, they all became kind of like, you know, a click. And they would occasionally text, they would exchange snaps, maybe Facebook messages, whatever. That's what they did. So now it's Thursday, February 16th, 2017, and February's in Utah are cold. It's two days after Valentine's Day. The students are super excited because it would be a long weekend. I personally was curious on why they were having a long weekend, but I do think President's Day is typically the Monday. And I know some school districts give their students that Friday off as well. So it's Thursday. They're gearing up for a long weekend. They're about to have the time of their life. And you know, it's like, hey, springtime is on the horizon. Is anyone else like that or is it just me? Like in February, I could start to feel the seasonal depression lift up off of me because I know that March is coming and it's typically a little warmer, a little bit more mild. Like right now, my summer countdown is in full effect. And baby, I want to lose a few pounds before summer, but summer is about to get whatever body I give it, and that's okay. But at this time, Smithfield had just gone through a snowstorm, so there were like pockets of snow. You know, when you go through that like melting. of the snow. There are like little pockets, little hills of snow, but there's also like areas of mud and just wetness and it's kind of icky because the snow is melting. Picture that. That's the season that we're in at the time of this story. So on this day, Desiree actually missed the school bus. So her father did go ahead and drop her off to school. So he pulls up to the school and he's just like, All right, I have that work meeting after work. Do not forget. You have some chores to do when you get home. I won't be home. I should be out of town. If all goes well, I should be back tomorrow or the next day. And you know that horse has been sick, so please make sure you go home, take care of the horse, change the bandage on its foot, get that all together. Mom should have dinner on the table, you know, about six o'clock. It's gonna be a regular day. Or please do not forget, I need you home tonight. I need you to feed the dog and I need you to take care of the horse because I won't be there. And so Desiree's like, okay, daddy, I'll take care of it. I'll be home as soon as school ends and I'll make sure I'll I'm on top of it. And Desiree was explained like she was described as a very responsible person. So you like, you know, for those of you that have kids, you know your kids, right? You can tell which one you can trust with a task and which one you cannot trust with a task. You can tell. And for those of you that have kids, you know what I'm saying. For those of you that don't have kids, you should also know what I'm saying. Cause you also know which one of your homegirls you can tell or trust with something and which one you can't. So he's like, I know she got this. I don't have to harp on her too much. Let me just remind her. They hug, exchange their I love you's, and Desiree's like, All right, Dad, I'll see you when I see you. And she walks into the school building. So the day is going on, Desiree's in class. Throughout the day, she's like texting her mom. And you know, she's just like, my gosh, mom, listen to what happened in science class today. my gosh, mom, da-da-da-da. We're having this for lunch. And this was regular for them. Like Desiree text her mom throughout the school day all the time. And I had to take a beat here and I really was laughing because is it just me or does anyone else text their kids while they're at school and then get on their case when they text back? Is it just me? Let me know in the comments because, like, for me, I text my kids. Well. We're a phone-free facility right now. So all of my kids have gotten in trouble over the last month and all of them have lost their phones. So we're a phone-free facility. But when they have their phones at school, like I'll be sending them reels on Instagram or I'll text them like, hey, what do you want for dinner or whatever? And I kid you not, every time they text back, I'm like, why are you texting me? Shouldn't she be paying attention? So anyway, Desperate and her mom are texting back and forth. And they're just basically talking about the day, talking about what they're gonna do after school. Mom was home that day. And so Des is like, hey, mom, can I hang out with some of my friends after school? Let's out. And mom texts back and she's like, Yeah, but I need you home no later than 430 to do your chores and take care of these animals, especially that horse, because you know the horse has a hurt foot. And Des is like, of course, of course, I'm not gonna be home late. I'm just want to hang out with a couple friends after school and I'll be home no later than 4 30. So school lets out at 3 30. And April mentioned that she did not ask Desiree where she was going because she's like, again, Desiree's fairly responsible. It's a small, tight-knit community. I don't really care who she's hanging out with. I just know that she'll be home by 4 30 and she'll tell me about it then. No problem. I'm not judging April in any way, shape, form, or fashion. But I just I'm gonna tell right now, it could never be me. Where are you going? Who's going to be there? What are you all doing? Do you have money? Is this going to cost? What are you wearing? Who is driving? These are all questions. Like I gotta give you the third degree before you leave this house. But I digress. So Am I a helicopter mom? I really had to think about it. I'm like, I need to know where all of my characters are located at any hour of the day. Like my oldest, he's about to be 16. He's getting ready for college. He still has a couple years, but we talk about college like basically every day. Cause I'm just like, I need your grades to be this. You need to get a scholarship. I need this, this, this, and like I'm like trying to light his path for him. Because it's a lot, you know? And I don't want to just throw him out there being like, hey, figure this out. But I told him, I'm like, when you leave for college, I need a good morning text every morning. And I need to talk to you at some point throughout the day, because I need to make sure you're alive. And that's just me, because I will be a wreck when my baby leaves home. I can tell you all that right now. He better stay on my life 360. Cause I don't. I need to know where he is. But this is about Desiree, not my baby. Now 4 30 rolls around and Desiree does not show up at home. April thinks this is weird because once again, Des is super responsible. Like she's never late. She is timely. She's punctual. She does not play those games. So April gives it a couple minutes and then she texts Desiree. She's like, Hey, call me. Like, where are you? Said you're gonna be home by 4 30. So four thirty eight rolls around and she's just like, Okay, this is really strange now. Like, I gotta call her. So she picks up the phone and she's calling Desiree. Her phone's going to voicemail, no answer. Do you know how punctual you have to be for only eight minutes to pass by and people are panicked about you? Like eight minutes pass by and she's like, Where's my baby? I know for me, I give my kids a 15 minute grace period because they are my kids. I'm habitually late to anything, so please give me an hour. I do try to communicate though. Like I will tell you, like, hey, I'm running late, or I'm be 15 minutes late, or whatever, but give me an hour. At eight minutes, I could be anywhere. I might still be home. You know? So it's 4 38 p.m. April is calling deaths back to back to back. She's like, Okay, this is strange. She's texting her. So then she's texting the siblings. She's like, has anyone heard from Des? And they're like, no, like she we saw her at school or whatever. So now April is like full-fledged panic. By 6 p.m., Des is still not home. So April and some family and friends, and they're all calling her phone. They're all texting. And so by this time, she's already contacted Matt and she's like, Matt, Desiree is not home. And he's like, I beg your finest pardon. And she's like, This is not a drill. It is after five something. Desiree is not home. Has you seen her? Have you heard heard from her? Anything? And he's like, No, but I'm on my way home. Like, screw this meeting. And so the sun is going down now. And she like April is just like, Okay, I gotta get the word out to the community. Has anyone seen my baby? So she makes a Facebook post. Just to get word of Desiree's disappearance out to the town. And remember, it's a small town. Everybody knows everybody. Everyone's probably on Facebook with everybody. So a full search party is formed by the time she makes this Facebook post. It's getting later and later, and April calls the non-emergency line, and she's just like, Hey, my daughter has not come home from school. She told me she'll be home by 4:30. It is now after six. She is still not here. People are out looking for her. No one has seen her. you know, what can I do? And to my surprise, and I'm sure to others surprise, the sheriff's office actually files a missing person report and they start patrolling the town looking for her. So I guess this is definitely city by city or state by state because how many stories have we done now where like the mom calls the police and they're just like, it could be a runaway. And I watched a documentary. It wasn't a documentary. It was a true crime show. Text me when you get home. And one of the sheriff deputies was on that show. And he was saying that when they received the call, it was never a question of whether or not Des r ran away. Like he was just like, this is a small town. Her parents say she's very responsible. We went out looking for her. And it just makes me wonder how many more teenagers or children. We could find if because think about it, they acted fast. It's not even 7 p.m. She was supposed to be home at 4:30. It's not even 7 p.m. and they're already out searching for her. So it just makes me wonder: like, would the outcomes be different if we took every claim seriously? Like whether or not they ran away or not? If they ran away, fine. Put them in the patrol car, take them home, deal with that on the back end. Put them up on charges if you want to. Be like, you know what? You ran away, you wasted our resources, we had to come find you and all that jazz. So no, you're gonna spend the next 48 hours in jail. Cool. But at least look for them. And I do understand we're underfunded. We don't have the resources, all that, but I'm just things that make you go. Right? So it's 9 p.m. now and the sheriff's office is out. They're interviewing Des friends. They're interviewing her classmates. They're just trying to figure out where she could be. And so April had given them a list of people she talked to regularly. And of course, Colter was on that list. So they pull up on Colter and they're just like, Hey, have you seen Desiree today? And he's just like, Not outside of school. Like, no, I haven't seen her. Haven't talked to her in a couple of days, actually. And so they have nothing to dispute that with. And so they take it. And around this time, April receives a text from one of Desiree's friends informing her that she saw Des walking down what's called the Old Ditch Road. And the Old Ditch Road apparently is a road where people kind of go jogging, they go walking, they take their dogs down there. Like it's just a real I don't want to say isolated, but just a road that kind of not a lot of cars go down. So, you know, people take that road to exercise or to, you know, walk their dog or ride their bikes, maybe play with their kids, things like that. So they give this information to the police, and the police tell Matt in April, they're just like, Listen, thank you for all the information. Stay home just in case she comes back, just in case you see her or anyone else sees her, be here so that if she comes. Stumbling through this door, you're here. We'll go look for her. So around 10 30 p.m., Desiree's former teacher, slash a friend of the family. Her name is Sue hints. It's spelled H-I-N-T-Z-E. So I don't know if it's hints or Hince or Hinsa. I'm just gonna say hints. Sue, I apologize if I'm pronouncing this incorrectly. People butcher our name all the time too. I get it. And so Sue calls April and she's just like I saw your Facebook post. What's going on? And so April's just like, listen, does did not come home. And she's just like, that's weird. That's not like her. And she's just like, just keep an eye out. In case you see or hear anything, just let me know. And so another family friend, her name is Christy Barfis, she also calls April. And she's just like, She gets home because she works evenings. And so she gets home, it's after 10. And she's just like sees the Facebook post once again. And so she calls April and is like, Hey, April, what's the latest? And of course, April tells her, like, hey, we still don't know where she is. We're, you know, forming a search party. People are out looking. Like, I just I don't know. This I did get a call. Someone said they saw her last on the ditch road. And that's all the information I have. And so Christy's like, Okay, well keep me posted. And she goes and she's like, All right, I'm gonna go get ready for bed. And She said something just kept gnawing at her. And she was just like, you know what? I have a daughter that's around Desiree's age. And if my daughter were missing, I would want all hands on deck and I would not rest until I found her. So Christy gets out of bed and she calls April back and she's like, listen, what can I do for you? And April's like, if you see or hear anything or anything, just call me. And so she, you know, April tells Christy and she's just like, you know, Sue is also kind of worried and trying to figure out what she could do. And so then Sue and Christy get this bright idea. They're just like, okay, she was last seen on the old ditch road. We are going out to the old ditch road and we're looking for her. And so around this time, police also subpoenaed they also submitted a subpoena, I should say, for Desiree's phone records. And they did get them back. You see what I'm saying? Like everything is just moving in this case. And that's one thing I'm gonna get to in my final thoughts. But I'm like, everyone should take a listen. Take a lesson. Take a lesson. Okay. All right. So what they found was that Desiree's phone was last on at 4 31 PM, one minute before she was scheduled to be home. So it pinged like in this location of this house and the house back up to that old ditch road. And so they head over to the house and they're just like, Hey, Desiree's phone pings last in this area. We just want to check, see, have you guys seen her? Have you heard anything? And now it just so happened that that house, one of her school friends lived there with her parents. And they were just like, you know, they were super cooperative. They let the police come in and search around, and they're just like, Listen, she's not here, she hasn't been here, but you know. Our house does back up to this road, and you can also have our doorbell camera if that helps. And so the lady, the mom, I guess, in this house, her name is Anne. And so then Anne made a Facebook post. And she's just like, hey, the police came by my house looking for Desiree and they searched my house. They said her phone last pinged in this area. So anyone who's out there searching, this is the last area her phone was seen in. And so Sue and Christy, their wheels are turning at this point because they're just like, okay, her phone was last at Ann's house. Anne's house backs up to that old ditch road. And I feel like if we just go out there, we may find something. So Sue is back on the phone with April and she's like, listen, I know you have to stay home. There is something going on in this area. Christy and I are gonna head out there. And we're gonna go and just look and see if we see any sign of Deserade. So it's about midnight at this point and it's twenty eight degrees and Sue and Christy arrive together at the canal road and they meet up and they're just like, okay. Let's kind of scour the area. Let's canvas and see if we can see anything. And so what was actually funny about this situation, and I mean nothing about this story is funny, don't get me wrong. But it kind of gave me a good chuckle because so Sue and Christy meet up, right? And Sue is just like, you know, I'm a grown woman, but it's still after midnight and there's somebody actively missing. So mama take my pocket knife with me just in case, you know, something pops off. But my good girl Christy. She came with a backpack. She came with snacks. She came with a flashlight. She came with water. She came with like hand warmers. Like she came prepared. And I was, I just thought that was so funny. Cause I feel like everybody has that friend where it's just like, you have a talent? Yes, in my purse. I don't particularly have a friend like that, but I have a co-worker like that. And I don't know if she listens to my podcast. But every there is nothing that I have asked this woman for that she has not had. Down to one time I had something stuck in my teeth and I was like, Carla, do have floss? And she was like, actually, like when I tell you, if I asked her for a spare t-shirt, she'll probably have it. Like so that really gave me a good chuckle. But at any rate, Sue and Christy meet up. They're at the canal road. They're fully prepared. They're walking down the road and they're just like, they have their flashlights, their lanterns. They're just kind of going through the grass, going through the road, just looking, waving their flashlight left to right, trying to see if they see. Anything they are holding out hope, they're just like, Lord, please let us find Des Alive. Like they are trying to figure out, like, okay, if the cell phone towers here, her phone pinged. I mean, when I saw you out there being straight up investigators, they did not come to play. Understood? Understood. So they're looking, and there are teams of others who were searching other parts of town as well. And what they would do is kind of check in on Facebook, like. Hey, a group of us are over by this restaurant searching for her. Hey, a group of us are over by this park searching for her. Hey, a group of us are over at this ravine looking for her. Like everybody, all eyes were looking for Desiree at this point. So they're walking down this road, they're swinging their flashlight. And so Sue turns around to kind of tell Christy something. And it's like how she turned around, she kind of waves her flashlight as she's turning. And as she waves her flashlight, they see a faint like arm lift up. And they go closer to the area and they're just like, my gosh, we found Desiree. She's been here the whole time. And so they were in complete and utter shock and disbelief. that they had actually found her and that she was alive, albeit barely clinging on to life. Now, I just realized at this very point in my recording that my microphone had not been turned on. So I have not listened to the audio yet. But if the beginning audio of this episode sounds horrible, I apologize. My microphone was not on. It is on now. And hopefully you made it this far. My bad. So they go, they they're taking their jackets off, they wrap Desiree up in their jackets, and they're just like, Hey, hey, you know, one of us call for help, the other one let's call April. So Sue calls 911 and Christy calls April, and they're just like, We found Des. She's not responsive, she's cold to the touch, but As they were talking and as they were getting her attention, they can hear her kind of like and so Christy's on the phone with April and she's like, Hey, we found her. And April's like jumps up. She's like, I'm getting my keys, I'm getting my shoes, I'm getting my purse, like, let's go. And they said when Des heard her mom on the phone, like, hey, baby, I'm coming to you right now, her countenance completely changed. Like she was able to talk. She was like, Mom, I'm okay. My head hurts. I'm cold. I've been laying here all these hours. And I miss you, and I'll see you soon. Like, you know, real just and I'm like, what a mother's love would do. You know what I'm saying? She then told Sue that she was cold and that her head hurt. And then when EMS and police arrived, they moved us to the ambulance, thinking that she had been beaten up and shoved into the canal. So they're just like. We'll take her to the hospital. We'll get her checked out, treat her for hypothermia, make sure she's good, and then praise the Lord, she should be able to go home. Now, notably missing were Desiree's backpack. She had her iPad, $55 in cash, and her phone. All were missing. And Desiree's backpack was not your ordinary regular Degular Schmegular backpack. It was very colorful. It was very standout ish. And it was pink and it was multicolored and it had all the things. Not like the kids in my neighborhood, because in our neighborhood, the middle and high school students have to wear clear backpacks for safety reasons. And at first I was kind of put off by it because I'm like, baby, do I live in the hood? But at this point I'm actually thankful because I'm like, hey, number one, no one can hide weapons or paraphernalia in their backpack. And number two, I use that as an opportunity to get all my kids about their dirty ass backpacks. And to clean out all that old work from it. But once again, this is not about me. So Des is transported to the Intermountain Local Regional Hospital to be treated for her bruises and for hypothermia since she had been laying out in 20 degree weather for at least eight hours. Once the clinical staff at the hospital began treating Des, they realized that she had been shot in the back of the head at point blank range. So how was described as that she was laying in the In the bed on the, you know, exam table or whatever. And one of the nurses kind of lifted her up to fix something behind her. And when she pulled her hand back, her hand was covered in blood. Let me tell you something. If she was not wearing gloves, I'm sure she freaked out. Yeah. But it was then that they were just like, hey, we need to go get a scan on her. Immediately, they did a CT scan, noticed at that point that she had been shot point blank in the back of the head. So the doctor now realizing this. Pulls Matt and April aside and he's just like, Hey, people who suffer these types of injuries do not make it out alive. And if they do, their quality of life is poor. It significantly decreases from what it was. He informs them that the hospital that they're at does not have the capacity to treat injuries of this magnitude, and that Des will need to be airlifted to the trauma center at the primary children's hospital in Salt Lake City, which is about 86 miles from their location. And by God's grace, I am not sure how trauma ho helicopters work. I've seen I've worked in the hospital majority of my adult life until I went into manufacturing. But She got airlifted to the children's hospital in Salt Lake City, which is 86 miles from their location. Matt and April were not allowed in the helicopter with her. They had to drive separately. I would have shown my entire peach if I had to drive an hour and a half in a frantic state. You just told me, you just told me that the probability of my daughter making it out of this situation alive is slim to none. And in the same breath you're telling me I gotta drive an hour and a half to be with her, I would have lost it. Put me in the helicopter and put me in here immediately before I get an injury and I'll be in that helicopter anyway, before I give you an injury, and you're gonna have to put me in that helicopter anyway. You know what I'm saying? This is not about me. They're way more mature than me. At any rate, once Des arrives to the children's hospital, she was placed into a medically induced coma while the staff got to work on treating her. Desiree suffered from swelling on her brain to where they had to remove a portion of her skull to alleviate the swelling, as well as frostbite on her hands and on one of her feet. April stated that the surgeon informed her and Matt that it was entirely possible that Desiree would not make it through the day. But she had a prank, grandmother. While Des is undergoing treatment, the police still have a very big job to do of figuring out who in the world Did this to this baby girl. And they go to work to uncover the mystery of what had actually happened to Desiree Turner on that day. They start by going through Desiree's Facebook page and gathering everyone that she had contact with. The following morning on February 17, 2017, they called in 47 of Desiree's friends for questioning and to narrow down their suspect list. Because naturally, before Desiree went missing, she was hanging out with somebody. And I'm just like, 47 friends? Where y'all be finding these friends at? Like I might have ten friends. Fifteen, if I'm counting people I don't talk to regularly. Forty seven? I don't even know forty-seven people. Might have ten friends. So police are working on their list and they realize two names continuously come up Coulter Peterson and Jason Decker. And so Des, like I mentioned earlier, was actually friends with Coulter, but because Jason and Coulter were best friends, she hung out with all of them. And their names were familiar to Desiree's family, but unlike her other friends, they had never met Coulter and they had never met Jason. Now, both Coulter and Jason were questioned, and neither of them admit to speaking with Desiree in the days leading up to her attack. Until those phone records came back. And police noticed. That not only had she spoken to them, but she talked to Coulter on the afternoon of her disappearance after she got out of school. In addition, police at this point were still trying to locate Desiree's backpack and her cell phone so that they can retrieve the information off of her cell phone. And they get a call from someone who had doorbell camera footage of two teenage boys walking past their house with a colorful backpack. So with this, police call Coulter back down to the station for more questioning. And their goal was really to get him to confess because they had zero hard evidence on him. They're just like, the best we can do is play good cop, bad cop, and hope that he spills. And so Coulter is back at the station. And once again, police are just like, Have you seen Dez? Where were you on February 16th? He's just like, We got out of school. I went to Jason's house. We played some video games. We went to the corner store. We bought snacks. Little did Coulter know that at this time police had received the surveillance footage already. And they saw, well, they received the surveillance footage from the high school because they had also requested footage from the high school to see who Desiree was walking out with that day. And so they received the surveillance footage back and it showed Jason and Coulter leaving the school and they came back around 5 30 p.m. Now the time that they were missing. Coincided perfectly with the time that Desiree was attacked. So they also brought Jason in for questioning. And you know what Jason said? He was like, Listen, I was at home. I was playing a video game. Colter did come over. We was both playing the video games. But after a while, Colter left. And I didn't know where he was. He was gone for about a couple hours. And I kid you not, like I people always try to point the finger at each other. I swear, like they Always try to point the finger at each other. It is crazy to me. So back down the hall, police attempt a new tactic with Coulters. Since he wasn't being forthcoming with the information, they told him that Des passed away. They're like, hey, we got word from the hospital down in Salt Lake City. Des passed away from her injuries. And so now we're no longer investigating assault. We're investigating murder. And they said Coulter's demeanor completely. Completely changed. And it was then they knew that he had something to do with this. Unfortunately, vibes is not a good method of prosecution, so they still needed concrete evidence or a confession. And on February 17th, 2017, at 8:22 p.m., Coulter confesses to shooting Desiree. He said that he did it on his own and that Jason had nothing to do with it. But honey, hold your horses and your wig because on the next day. February 18, 2017, police obtained Coulter and Jason's cell phones. And I'll say this: these little Tink Tinks did not think this through all the way because both of their phones were placed on airplane mode and they turned their locations off so that they could not be tracked. But what they didn't do is turn off the Wi-Fi. And their Wi-Fi was pinging on every area that they walked past. And it placed them both in the area. On the same day and the same time that Desiree was shot. So they spun the block on Jason with their new findings. And you know what Jason did? He kept lying. Yeah, he kept lying. He was just like, I'm not about to tell you truth. He told every story but the correct one. And so finally, investigators tell him, like, listen, we traced your phone back to the scene of the crime. And at that point, he was just like, All right, fine. I was there. I saw what happened. But I was only there because if I did not listen to Coulter and come and be there with him on that day, he would have shot me too. I'm not safe. You think I'm exempt? No, like Coulter would have definitely shot me. That's what they all do. And he did point the police in the direction of where Desiree's cell phone and tablet were thrown into the canal by Coulter, of course. So at this point, investigators retrieve Desiree's phone and tablet from the canal and they perform a data extraction on her devices. From there, they found a text exchange from Desiree and Coulter, where Des asked Coulter if she could buy a pocket knife off of him. And so he responded and was just like, actually, yeah, I have a pocket knife. And she was just like, that's sweet, because I have to cut into these feedbags to feed our animals. And if I have a pocket knife or another pocket knife, it'll make it easier for me to just open the feedbags, get the animals fed, I can get my chores done in no time. And so Coulter responds to Des' text, and he's just like, listen, I got you a pocket knife. Let's meet after school. Bring the money. I'll bring the knife, we'll exchange, and then we can all go about our way. Investigators also found a text thread between Jason and Coulter with plans for what they were going to do to Desiree once she met up with them, including a text from Jason to Coulter stating that, hey, the coast was clear, meaning that he can go ahead and shoot her. Upon speaking to Colter again, he then tells police that Jason still had the gun and the shell casing. And they asked him why. Like, why would he want to keep such a thing? And Colter's just like, well, he said he wanted a memento of what we had done. And I'm just like, y'all are some freaking amateurs, because one of the top five rules of committing a crime is don't don't keep any of that evidence. Why would you keep the gun and the shell casing? Bruh, you're a freaking idiot. But that's neither here nor there. so with this information, investigators head over to Jason's home where they find the gun and the shell casing propped up on a windowsill above his bed, as if he was proud of what he had done. And they were disgusted by this. The gun was taken from Jason's bedroom and sent for confirmation, and it returned a match. Desiree woke up from her coma eight days later and had to be filled in on everything that she had endured. Miss Lady was in disbelief that her friends would do this to her. She spent about two months in the hospital before she was discharged, and she had to relearn every single bodily function. She had to learn how to hold her head up. She had to learn how to eat. She had to learn how to walk. She had to learn how to write. She had to learn how to cross her fingers. Count to 10. She had to relearn everything. She had 21 surgeries and loss function on the left side of her body. So she was declared hemiplegic. And that's a term used for paralysis on one side of the body. So the left side of her body no longer worked. Now, you know what's the really messed up part of all this? Des had only known Coulter for about a year. And Coulter was a bit of a loner, like. I don't know if he was new to the area or if he just kind of remained to himself, but she kind of would see him just being by himself, being off to himself. He didn't really talk to anybody. And she was like, you know what Coulter needs? Friends. And you know who's gonna be that for him? Me. And so she struck up a friendship with him because she didn't want him to be by himself. She didn't think that he deserved to be a loner. And so on the day in question, Des met up with Coulter about the knife. And Jason showed up after. And she said that she was getting ready to leave. It was almost 4 30. Like as she's regaining her memory back, she's remembering some things about the day in question. And so she remembered that she was looking at her phone. She's like, All right, it's minutes to 4 30. I really need to get home. And, you know, it was great seeing you guys. I'm gonna leave. And so one of them was just like, Hey, I dropped my ring. Can you help me find it? And so she's like, Yeah, I do have a few spare minutes because you know me, I'm always early or on time. So of course I padded an extra time. So yeah, I'll help you look for your ring. And she turned around to look on the ground to see if she saw anything shiny. And she said that's that's the last thing she remembered because that's when Coulter shot her. Now here's the kicker. Ever since the crime happened, everyone who's everyone is trying to figure out like what is the motive here? Why would you all do this? Why, like, she's a sweet girl, she doesn't bother anybody. She took you under her wing. She wanted to make sure you had friends. Why would you do this? And you know why they did this? Because they thought she was annoying. Because Coulter said he did not want friends and does kind of just And grabbed him and held him close and never let him go. Like she's sending him snaps and she's sending him text messages and she's like sending him encouraging words throughout the day. And he's just like, I'm over this. Like, I'm I'm I don't want to talk to her. And I'm just like, why didn't you just tell her? You could have just told her you didn't want to be friends. And apparently one day, early February, Colter and Jason are at Jason's house, as they do. And they're playing a video game and Dez texted him on Snap and he looks up and he's just like, Bruh, this freaking girl like this freaking girl texts me all the time for various reasons. Like, I'm just I'm so freaking sick of her. And Jason is just like, Well, let's get rid of her. She's kind of naive. She'll you know, she comes from a good family, she's very trusting. She'll be easy to get rid of. And so initially what the boys wanted to do, they wanted to take the pocket knife that she had and slit her throat with it. but on the day of Jason was just like, actually, I have a gun, let's just shoot her. Let's let's keep this clean. You know, knives can be a little messy. So once Des found out the motive behind her attack, she was completely heartbroken. Like at this point, she is now coherent, she's now understanding things about the world around her. And In news articles, on television, on the internet, they're saying that these boys wanted to kill her because she was annoying. Do you know how like you know how much that hurts? I've never been called annoying. I'm sure I've been called other things, but I would be like, Well, damn, am I annoying? Do I talk too much? I probably do talk too much, but that's neither hands or there. So, you know, she was just really hurt and just besides herself. In exchange for taking the charges of attempted robbery and obstruction of justice off the table, both Jason and Coulter decide to forego a trial by jury and they pled guilty to the attempted murder of Desiree. Coulter pled guilty in October 2017 and Jason pled guilty in December 2017. Jason's defense attorney, Sharon Demler, released a statement admitting. That Jason takes full responsibility for his role in the shooting by saying he has had a lot of time to think about it. He obviously wishes he could take what happened back, but he knows he can't and he needs to move on. I can really smack her, because what do you mean he wants to move on? I'm sure Desiree wants to move on too. She doesn't get to just move on. She has to live with this, and now so does he. She's paralyzed on her left side, constantly in and out of the hospital, only has half of her line of vision. Y'all can go to hell with this put it all behind me mess. You deserve, I hope. Every single day for the rest of your life, you see her facing your dreams. Next. On February 1st, 2018, Coulter stood in front of Judge Kevin Allen and was sentenced to 15 years to life in prison with an additional one to 15 years for stealing Desiree's belongings, which his sentences were to be served concurrently. During Coulter's sentencing hearing, Judge Allen told him, Quote, there is evil in the world, no doubt. Coulter, what you did to this completely innocent young girl, as you know, was evil and horrific. You are young and not so far gone that you cannot obtain redemption. Desiree also spoke during Colton Coulter's hearing, stating, Good luck in prison. And remember that because of you, my life is a prison. Welcome to hell. I have been here for a year now. She kind of ate with that line. I ain't gonna lie. Welcome to hell, Coulter. And they said as soon as Desiree said that, Coulter started crying and shaking and trembling in his boots because he was like, damn, like I really messed up. Before his sentence and hearing concluded, he did issue an apology to the Turner family, his own family and the community. He said, I'm very, very sorry for what I have done. Words cannot describe how awful I feel. He told the court no matter what happens to him, it is nothing compared to the pain he has caused Desiree to go through. Judge Allen asked the community to please continue to be kind to Coulter's family and to not ostracize or demean them because of his actions. He said that Coulter was actually raised in a good home by good people, and this never should have happened. Six days later, Jason's sentencing hearing was underway under the rule of Judge Brian Hanno. Jason's mother spoke in his defense, they did not put her name in the records. I'm so sorry. And she just stated that there were no words to express the pain in her heart. She shared memories of her sweet boy who was loving with his cousins, helped his grandmother when she could no longer do certain things herself, and opened doors for the ladies at church. She went on to say, I struggled to make sense of this, but I expect him to accept his consequences. I know some wrongs can never be made right in this lifetime, and this is one of them. She shared her emotional her emotional. Who am I, Glorilla? She shared her emotional journey dealing with his actions as he she struggled with anger, mistrust, and betrayal before finally coming to a place where she could work towards forgiveness. Not because she condones her son's actions, but so that she could heal and forgive. She asked the judge to offer a sentence that was both fair and just for Desiree, but also showed mercy toward her son, even though she understood the difficulty of finding the balance between the two. Judge Cannell stated that he looked for any reason, any reason at all to give Jason less than the max sentence of 15 years to life. But he just could not find a good enough reason. And with that, Des and the Turner family were also present at Jason's sentencing hearing. And Des mentioned that, you know, she went home and she thought about what she said to Coulter at his trial. And she was like, you know what? Maybe I was a little mean, a little feisty, a little sassy. And she said, quote, I realize I don't hate these boys. I hate what they did to me. I want us to follow the savior. Be kind, love one another, and choose good. Coulter and Jason's time will be served in a juvenile detention center until the age of 18 and they'll be charged to an adult prison. After both cases wrapped, Desiree released a statement stating, quote, a lot of people say my story is heartbreaking. Indeed it is, but this is only a chapter of my life. My life can and will get better. I am going to have my happy ending. And have a happy ending she did. She mentioned that it was hard looking in their faces during the sentence and hearing, but what stood out to her the most was that neither of them showed any remorse for what they had done. They were affected by the consequences of their action, meaning the prison time, but they did not seem phased by the retelling of the events of February 16, 2017. Over the next eight years, Desiree underwent nearly 50 procedures, including 16 brain surgeries. To save her life and improve her quality of life. None of the brain surgeries were able to remove the bullet in her brain, and she continues to live with the bullet lodged in her frontal lobe. And because of that, she gets daily debilitating headaches. Desiree graduated from high school in 2020 and she was also elected the homecoming queen. I don't know, that's right, girl. I should have looked up a picture of her homecoming dress. I'm sure she was cute. She went on to marry the love of her life, Mr. Mason Buck, and in 2023, she went on a mission trip. As a representative of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Dum dum dum dum dum. It's not a laughing matter, but have y'all ever seen that South Park episode? I like never watched South Park. I've seen I used to watch it when I was a kid, of course, watching everything except for what I was supposed to be watching. But I saw that episode once in my adult life, and I cannot get it out of my head. Every time, like they would say Mormon or Latter-day Saint, they'll be like dum dum dum dum dum, I apologize. For real. so Desiree found joy in growing flowers and giving them away to anyone who could use a pick-me-up. She believes her ministry is to continue to bring light into the world, and I, for one, am super, super, super happy that she found purpose in her pain. So where are they now? Well, after a years-long and harrowing medical battle after the shooting, Desiree did unfortunately pass away. Of a bilateral septic pulmonary embolism on April 17, 2025, just one week before her 23rd birthday. She was surrounded by her family and her husband Mason. As a final gift to the world, Des registered as an organ donor and post posthumously, posthumously, posthumously, posthumously. I think it's posthumously. I don't know. But after she passed, she donated her corneas, giving sight to two people. In her obituary, it listed the beautiful irony because she herself lived with very limited vision, yet still found a way to help others see the world more clearly, which I think is very poetic. In an interview released one week before her death on April 10th, 2025, Desiree stated, quote, and this is a long quote, so bear with me. Last year I got diagnosed with pre-stomach cancer. I've been struggling with pain and whatnot. And starting to get really sick these last couple weeks. Knowing that I've already fought so hard for the last eight years and knowing just right now my body is so tired. I already decided that I don't want to fight the cancer if that's what it is. I made my appointment with my primary care doctor to go talk to her about getting a DNR. A and for those of you like myself, well, I know what a DNR is, but a DNR is a do not resuscitate order. So for any reason she were to code or Anything flatline, they would not resuscitate her. So she said, she talked to her primary doctor about getting a DNR signed and she signed it and she said, I'm not doing okay. I would just like to be done. She was pretty good with it and let me sign the DNR and all the other things I needed that needed to be taken care of. I work Friday and Saturday nights. On Friday night, I'm like, okay, let's go to work. I was doing okay, just having a little bit of a hard time breathing. Friday. But I decided I'd go to work. How I've seen it for the past years is if I can be in pain at home, I can be in pain at work. Either way, I'm gonna be in pain. So I just decided, let's go to work. I worked my shift. I only came home about an hour to an hour and a half early because I couldn't breathe. And so was a decision. Do I go in right now to go see if they can even do anything? Me still thinking it's cancer at this moment. If they could help me breathe, that would probably be great. They took pictures of my chest and all that. They found blood clots or masses in my lungs. There's pockets of pus in my lungs. There's blood clots in my lungs, my legs, everywhere. I think there's even holes in my lungs from the infection eating its way out. All I know is that it's hard to breathe and it hurts. I am choosing not to fight this infection. I'm wanting to just let my body go. Granted, so many people would be like, but Des, you fought so hard. You can keep going. You got more in you. You can do it. My rebuttal to them is I can barely breathe. I don't have much strength left in my body. I'm sorry. But I don't even think if I were to fight this infection, I don't even know if I could even truly fight it. It would probably take me out before I could kick it. I like that I have time that I'm able to say my final goodbyes and all. I don't like that it's going to be another slow, full, painful death of is today gonna be our last day or is today gonna be your last day. I'd love for it to just be done and over. Death is scary, but I'm not gonna lie. Everyone is scared of death. And yes, I guess I am scared a little bit. But I also want it to just come quick. Come for me and just be done. Mama said it's better this way. It's better than finding me dead because I accidentally choked on food or finding me dead because I had a seizure and wasn't able to get help or anything. So this is good. It's helpful for my loved ones. They can kinda watch me go. She went on to say, I know where I'm going. I won't have this bullet in me. I'm able to use both of my legs as equally strong. I'll be able to use both my arms. Whew. Reading that statement, my eyeballs started to sweat. Like I ain't even gonna hold you. That was very emotional. Desiree's funeral was held on April 26, 2025 at the Amalga Ward building, and she was laid to rest at Smithfield Cemetery right after. After Desiree's death, the Cache County District Attorney's Office released a statement stating that it would vigorously oppose any parole for Coulter and Jason. And her family began the legal fight in favor of Senate Bill 92, which would change the language in the legislature to have Jason and Coulter's charges increased to murder as Desiree's cause of death is a delayed death due to complications from the shooting. Meaning if Desiree had never been shot, if she had not been in and out of the hospital with all these surgeries, all these things, all these medications, all these tubes, all these seizures, all these things, and got a lung infection, she would have been totally fine to fight it. But on top of everything else that she had to deal with, she just didn't have the bandwidth or the grace to do it. And so that's what they were trying to relay. April Turner stated, quote, Under current law, the attacker received a lighter sentence simply because she lived longer. And that's a flaw in the system. And today, SB 92 recognizes that flaw in the system. They got off for attempted murder, not because they did not try to kill her. But because she fought to live. Cash County Chief Criminal Deputy Dane Murray corroborated April's statement by saying, if someone has been convicted of an attempted murder and the victim later dies, they can go forward on a new prosecution for the murder. And it's been found constitutional in other states that it does not violate double jeopardy. Desiree's law, legally known as Senate Bill 92 slash HB 92, was signed into Utah legislation on March 5, 2026. And it allows prosecutors to charge individuals with murder if a victim dies from injuries sustained in a prior attack. Whether or not Coulter and Jason would be retried in the murder of Desiree Turner Buck has not yet been decided. But baby, when it is, I'm gonna go do a story time on TikTok because I will be letting you know. Personally, I don't think that they should be retried because they're already facing life in prison. I think their current sentences are fair because again, they're already facing life in prison. They have the possibility of parole after 15 years, but it's probably highly unlikely that they'll be released because Smithfield, once again, it's a very small town. It's a town of less than fourteen thousand people. Everyone knows Kilter, everyone knows Jason, everyone knows Desiree. And so if they're coming up For a parole board of people that know them. And I don't know how this works because I know for like a jury, you're supposed to be around people that don't know you, but I don't think it's the same for parole. Like they can be fully aware of the case. And I just don't think they're gonna let it slide. And I truly do feel like April and Matt Turner are about to be at every hearing, they're about to be at every meeting, and they are going to do whatever they can to make sure that y'all low asses stay in jail. And yeah. That's pretty much how that cookie crumbles. Coulter and Jason remain incarcerated in the Utah State prison system, and they are not eligible for parole until 2032. Which actually seems kind of close. Not even gonna hold you. Is that 15 years? That is 15 years. Damn. Woof. Desire's family's committed to keeping them in there. And we will see how that cookie crumbles, which brings me to my final thoughts. I don't know if it's because my brain is fried. I don't know if it's because I am still catching up on sleep. I don't know what it is, but I don't really have many thoughts on this case. My heart does go out to the Turner family. I do feel like this we have gone through some senseless acts, right? I can't think of any of the acts that we have covered that weren't senseless. I'm I'm thinking. Yeah, they were all pretty senseless. But this this gotta take the cake. You shot her because you thought she was annoying. You shot her because you thought she was annoying. You shot her because you thought she was annoying. Like, I just want to keep saying it out loud so that we can all realize how stupid that sounds. You did not have to talk to her. You could have genuinely just been like, you know what, does I don't want a friend. I don't want somebody to care about me in this manner. Like, I don't want you gave her your phone number. You gave her your Snapchat. Like You hung out with her regularly. You could have just told her you didn't want to be friends. You could have just told her you didn't want to be friends. And I'm actually I don't want to say glad that they decided to shoot her as opposed to slitting her throat because I do feel like if they slit her throat, she would have died immediately. and she is right what she said in her final moments. Like her family at least did get to have eight more years with her, albeit eight very difficult and tough years. And they were able to prepare themselves for her death because they knew it was coming. But I just I am still of the belief that I don't think any parent should have to bury their child. I don't think any parent should have to bury their child. And especially for something so senseless. Like life will take you out on its own. There are car accidents, plane accidents, train accidents, you name it. Let's not go complicating things, you know? I just my brother and I were talking the other day and we were just saying like how I feel like the younger generation does not value life. Like everything has been so normalized and desensitized. Like you can find and I th I really do think it's just that the digital age because you can literally look online and if you want footage, and I'll just use this for an example. Charlie Kirk, the footage of his murder was Before I even knew what happened, I saw the footage. Someone had sent me the footage of his murder. And it was just like why would you send me this? I don't want to see this. This is somebody's life. But the fact that that footage was made available and circulating means that a lot of people likely watched it. And a lot of people probably just were desensitized to the fact that you guys are watching a man die. I don't ever want to see somebody die. Ever. Not planned or not unplanned. I don't ever want to see somebody die. I don't ever want to see somebody take their last breath. And by the grace of God, I have made it almost 37 years of life without seeing somebody take their last breath. And I just feel like as a culture, we are so desensitized to crime. And we are so desensitized to tragedy because we can see it. It's very like normalized. And I want us to get back to a place where we're just like, this is not normal. This is not normal. I should not be able to see abuse videos online. But that's what we do nowadays. Like instead of calling for help, people are recording. Instead of calling for help, people are just like, let me let me post this. Let's be so for real. If y'all will put your phones down and go help the person, the outcome may be different. I truly feel like if people started getting arrested. For videotaping crimes or for distributing crime footage that aren't obviously the media. I feel like maybe we'll start taking things a little bit more seriously, but we are a very unserious generation. And I understand it listen, we have been through it. I was born in nineteen eighty-nine. I have lived through nine-eleven. I have lived through COVID. I have lived through Ebola. I have lived through a war. I have lived through Just so much crap. And so yeah, sometimes we gotta make light of the situation because baby, how else am I gonna survive? But I also feel like time and place, and we should never be so quick to want to distribute footage or watch footage or share footage of someone being harmed or of someone passing away. Those are my final thoughts. when I was researching this case. It seemed more to point the finger at Jason than Coulter. and I don't know how I feel about that because Coulter was the one that shot her. Like he admitted to it. They believe that's what happened. I believe that's what happened. But what they're saying is that Coulter was just kind of coerced or convinced he was talked into it by Jason. And that's why Jason got the sentence that he got. I do feel like he deserved the sentence because at the end of the day, you were there. You knew what happened. You lied to the police. You went home. Like literally, after they shot her and left her for dead, they took her money and went to buy snacks. You have no value for human life. And my heart really goes out to their parents because this is the first time in the cases that I have covered where I actually saw the parents like, damn, you did this. You're gonna have to sit with it. I mean, Josh Phillips' mom was the same. Like she was just like, you don't have to sit with it, but I'm gonna try to not have you do life about it. You know? And it's very possible that they may do life because now she has passed away from her the complications. So it's just senseless. It was stupid overall. And I just feel like we have to get back to a place where we start taking things seriously. And trust me, I'm probably one of the most Unserious people you will ever meet. I hate being serious. I like to laugh. I love to live a good life. However, I'm not, I can't ever take life, the gift of life. I can't ever be lackadaisical about that. At any rate, that is the end of our show. Next week's episode is already done. So it will be coming out. And now that I have a jump start, I'm gonna try to research and just record a couple episodes under my belt just in case I have another emergency. I really do want to remain consistent. Like 2025 taught me consistency. 2026 is teaching me applying consistency. Because once you get used to doing something and it becomes a habit, then it doesn't matter if you're tired or what, you're still going to do it. And so I just I'm trying to be consistent in all things. Pray for me because I still cannot seem to wake up before 6 a.m. But my goal is to wake up at 5 a.m. I really want a longer runway in my morning so I can say my prayers, have a cup of coffee uninterrupted, and really just woo-saw before the loud pack wakes up. So I will see y'all next week. Follow me on social media, Minor Mischief Pod on TikTok, Minor Mischief Podcast. Instagram and please I leave me a review, write a comment that helps push the show out because the more that you guys engage and interact, the more that they're just like, hey, let's the more that they're just like, hey, let's get the show out there to the masses, you know, and I would like to eventually start making some money off of it. So yeah, follow me on social media. Please leave me a review, write a comment, let me know what you like, let me know what you don't like. Send me an email if you have any case suggestions or you know, whatever the case may be. Minor Mischief Podcast at gmail.com. I do check my emails, they go right to my phone. And Yeah. Let's get into it. So yeah, follow me. I'm probably gonna create like a space where we can chat when I have when I have the bandwidth, but please leave a review, write a comment, let me know what you think. Do you guys think that Jason was more involved? I'm just just out of curiosity. You know what I'm saying? and yeah, that's our show. I'll see y'all next week. Same day of the week. Here in the same place. And yeah, we'll chat on social media until then. See you next week. And until then, stay mischievous, friends.