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Speaker 6: I had no idea what what this crime was or
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Speaker 6: how it could possibly work until I started looking into it.
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Speaker 6: The first thing we knew about sextortion was a case
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Speaker 6: in Scotland involving a seventeen year old lad called Daniel
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Speaker 6: Perry who apparently received messages through Facebook. I had some
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Speaker 6: money extorted from him, received sums of about three thousand
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Speaker 6: pounds from him before he ran out of money. They
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Speaker 6: then carried on threatening him, threatening to release these video
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Speaker 6: recordings of him, and they started saying to me, why
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Speaker 6: didn't you kill yourself and taunting him even and the
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Speaker 6: last message he sent to them and said, I haven't
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Speaker 6: got any more money, bye bye, and he then took
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Speaker 6: his own life.
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Speaker 7: When the BNP Anti Cybergen group was created and there
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Speaker 7: was a lack of report of uh AUS extortion happening
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Speaker 7: in the Philippines, biggimizing foreign nationals.
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Speaker 6: Cause, of course, international pressure started to build, especially after
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Speaker 6: the death of Daniel Perry in twenty thirteen and Interpol
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Speaker 6: got involved. There was one I suppose a typical victim
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Speaker 6: uh uh, a guy in Hong Kong who was working
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Speaker 6: in an office who was approached on Facebook and who
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Speaker 6: went off into the office toilets and had this exchange
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Speaker 6: with somebody who thought was a woman in the in
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Speaker 6: the Philippines. Two hours later they were demanding money from him.
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Speaker 6: You had to rush out of the office and at
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Speaker 6: the end of the day and try and find a
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Speaker 6: Western Union branch and send over one sum of money,
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Speaker 6: and the next day another demand came. You eventually sent
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Speaker 6: about two to three thousand pounds or about three thousand
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Speaker 6: US dollars before tucking up the courage to go to
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Speaker 6: the police and report it. Usually you'll find these crimes
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Speaker 6: might originate in Nigeria or some African countries and then
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Speaker 6: get copied overseas. But here this was the first that
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Speaker 6: anyone had ever heard of these crimes being perpetrated. In
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Speaker 6: about twenty thirteen twenty fourteen, they suddenly started springing up.
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Speaker 6: This crime didn't exist until Maria Capras invented it. The
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Speaker 6: ring leader of a group of young people who were
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Speaker 6: carrying out these crimes of sextortion and extorting money from
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Speaker 6: people through Facebook and getting large sums of money out
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Speaker 6: of it. Persndica is thought to have rated in millions
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Speaker 6: of pounds, huge sums of untraceable money, all of which
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Speaker 6: will be sent to Western Union accounts. Some of the
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Speaker 6: Western Union branches in the area around where she lived
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Speaker 6: recorded the biggest takings of any Western Union branches in
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Speaker 6: the world for a period in twenty fourteen twenty fifteen.
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Speaker 4: There was so much money coming in at this time, so.
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Speaker 7: This operation was named the the Operation Strike Up, which
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Speaker 7: resulted to the crapdown of these syndicate syndicated group which
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Speaker 7: involves in sextortion cases.
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Speaker 8: No, it's quite big because back then the uh cyber
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Speaker 8: sex extortion or crime were new to us. It was
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Speaker 8: not that popular yet, so the the impact of this
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Speaker 8: story is alarming.
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Speaker 2: Huh h.
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Speaker 4: H h h h.
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Speaker 8: They were able to track the movements of money and
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Speaker 8: all the proceeds were going through the to Western Union
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Speaker 8: house or owned by the Caparas and herly being partner.
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Speaker 8: I think they were able to cease corporal of laptops,
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Speaker 8: had disc sex toys, several motor vehicles, including Wei.
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Speaker 6: I was told that she was still active on social
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Speaker 6: media in prison and center a message in hope rather
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Speaker 6: than expectation, saying I'd like to hear your side of
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Speaker 6: the story. Will you let me come and see you
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Speaker 6: in prison, insisting she was innocent, insisting that another woman
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Speaker 6: in the village was the real kingpin and she was
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Speaker 6: just being scapegoted. She almost convinced me. I mean, she
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Speaker 6: told me that she'd been set up. She was crying,
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Speaker 6: and I asked her, what do you think about the men.
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Speaker 4: Who fall for this? But she said they're stupid, They're
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Speaker 4: just stupid.
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Speaker 6: I told them, I told one or two of them,
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Speaker 6: don't do it again, because you've learned your lesson now.
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Speaker 6: So she could switch quite quickly, and it's clearly a
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Speaker 6: quite persuasive and highly confident person, probably associopath, you'd probably
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Speaker 6: describe her as, but for whatever reasons, and we can
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Speaker 6: only suspect what those reasons might be. No case ever
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Speaker 6: came to court, and it appears to have simply dissolved,
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Speaker 6: and Caparrace is free and she's got her cars back to.
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Speaker 4: Maria. Caparras first started working in.
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Speaker 6: Chat centers where Filipino women strip off and talk to foreigners.
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Speaker 6: Let's face it, it's a it's a very degrading line
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Speaker 6: of work to find yourself in, and I imagine that's
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Speaker 6: perhaps where her cynicism about the victims comes in. She's
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Speaker 6: seeing men who were behaving in a very exploitative manner,
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Speaker 6: and presumably working with other people who are being similarly exploited.
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Speaker 7: Like a telemarketing office call centers. You know, they're selling porns,
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Speaker 7: they're sailing porn sites. And once they saw an opportunity
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Speaker 7: someone asking for more, and.
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Speaker 6: At some stage, we don't know when, but clearly a
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Speaker 6: light bulb went on and she realized how she could
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Speaker 6: turn this to her advantage. It's an evil scam, but
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Speaker 6: it's a very clever scam at the same time, and
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Speaker 6: it plays on the fact that people so ready to
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Speaker 6: strike up conversations with complete strangers.
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Speaker 9: Like you no face feacebook back on Facebook, h h.
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Speaker 3: But I don't, Ma, don't.
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Speaker 9: Every day my go post everybody's help.
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Speaker 10: And go haka.
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Speaker 3: I know no may real baseball young Gaga meeting, but
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Speaker 3: all soada, I young are young proposed within Facebook collation
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Speaker 3: and I.
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Speaker 9: Know f b s Facebook wanna science leads.
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Speaker 11: Then on my chin is they will they will use
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Speaker 11: the persona of a pretty young woman. The PERSONA used
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Speaker 11: will be a younger female, fun loving, a bit silly, uh,
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Speaker 11: a bit more fun and games kind of approach. In
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Speaker 11: social media platforms, uh, most of the information is available.
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Speaker 12: Easily. They can go to your profile, go through this information,
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Speaker 12: go through your hobbies, go through your habits, go through
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Speaker 12: the messages, go through the image videos and all the comments.
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Speaker 12: Knows who is your friends. The main goal for them
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Speaker 12: is to make the account as real as possible. Okay,
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Speaker 12: and why because they want the victim to trust them easily.
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Speaker 10: Indeed, you properly go updated.
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Speaker 12: Them post twenty years back, you never publish your private image.
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Speaker 12: You hang it outside your door and everybody could easily
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Speaker 12: see it, because that time was something like that was
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Speaker 12: a private information. We are freely posting information about ourselves
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Speaker 12: and just give it away, give it to the public,
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Speaker 12: giving to the scameras, and were just inviting them to
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Speaker 12: just say, this is my life. You want to know
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Speaker 12: anything about my life, here it is, and then you
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Speaker 12: can just have any information about me on my social media.
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Speaker 13: I believe today there is popular trend where popularity is
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Speaker 13: about privacy. So the more popular you are, the better
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Speaker 13: it is. But again it's a choice. With popularity and
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Speaker 13: having a public profile comes everything that relates to that
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Speaker 13: and the risk associated. And that's where social platforms as
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Speaker 13: are in general a great platform for criminals in general
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Speaker 13: to perform their crimes. It's an easy way and they
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Speaker 13: can hide behind a different just fake identity.
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Speaker 11: Basically, they use social media a lot, so they would
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Speaker 11: troll these social media website and then uh interact with
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Speaker 11: people and they they're fishing for potential praise.
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Speaker 3: I know Engineer lives in Malaysia. Engineer lives in Singapore,
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Speaker 3: Hong Kong, and I mean my man Pera, I know
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Speaker 3: may Mylajo Young, you mad, my therap capaclinic with your
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Speaker 3: siblings and then then I usually in the relationships are pacebook.
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Speaker 12: Ye.
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Speaker 6: The way s extortion works is that somebody will send
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Speaker 6: you a friend the question on Facebook, somebody who's never
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Speaker 6: met before.
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Speaker 3: I know, Maga accepts.
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Speaker 10: Are your.
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Speaker 3: Bokas agasa accept? Can it be be more high?
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Speaker 12: Well, if you respond to that chat okay, then you
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Speaker 12: can easily be hooked to the chat.
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Speaker 7: You know, a typical legitimate account, you have around two
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Speaker 7: hundred three hundred four hundred Facebook prints. Yeah, and statistically,
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Speaker 7: when we're trying to analyze the Facebook account of criminals.
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Speaker 7: You see just around ten prints, foreign prints coming from everywhere.
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Speaker 10: Oh you I do do that, I know, I say?
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Speaker 3: You really say?
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Speaker 9: Is book such as.
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Speaker 3: You may know? You know, taps too big? Friends go on.
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Speaker 4: And it's a.
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Speaker 11: Script and narrative that they use that almost always works,
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Speaker 11: I'll tell you, but and the and they have a
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Speaker 11: mastery over the script, the words, to use, the emotions,
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Speaker 11: to show the little attentive messages every day that that
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Speaker 11: you can send that that makes somebody feel good. It
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Speaker 11: is in this climate of trust that they.
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Speaker 4: Take advantage of the victim.
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Speaker 12: We always assume, like those movies, like those Hollywood movies,
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Speaker 12: somebody extremely skillful running some script and running some quotes. However,
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Speaker 12: that's I can say, is a fifteen percent of what
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Speaker 12: happening in a cybercrime. Okay, the other eighty five percent
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Speaker 12: of cyber crime. Practically, it is nothing to do with
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Speaker 12: the technicalitics. What we call it social engineering.
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Speaker 13: Social engineering is based on manipulating people, and it is
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Speaker 13: very effective when you create a certain connection with your
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Speaker 13: victim and try to use that in order to achieve
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Speaker 13: your crime.
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Speaker 3: Marm Bagla passport sacality bibelo gin.
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Speaker 6: And these were mostly teenage boys, some of whom were
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Speaker 6: transitioning to be women.
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Speaker 3: I seventeen years old now seventeen eighteen nineteen. That amadasaman,
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Speaker 3: which is to eat.
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Speaker 7: That's the age bracket normally that we were able to
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Speaker 7: arrest in sextortion because they know a lot about computers.
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Speaker 8: Can just pay these job bless teenagers. Give them three
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Speaker 8: hundred to five hundred a day and it will suffice
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Speaker 8: for them. You can easily lure them, attract them to
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Speaker 8: this kind of sex activities.
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Speaker 6: Good chatters would get bonuses and extra rewards to shower
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Speaker 6: them with gifts like I phones and Samsung phones.
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Speaker 2: All the.
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Speaker 8: Arrested individuals were minors.
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Speaker 3: Try to say some bike, I mean someone lived lived
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Speaker 3: in saying it should be.
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Speaker 8: The surrounding is much safe safe for them because they
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Speaker 8: are inadequate police authorities will operate in the area.
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Speaker 6: North Hills still looks like a very ordinary village. But
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Speaker 6: somebody pointed out to me, have you noticed what's different
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Speaker 6: about this village?
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Speaker 4: And I can't.
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Speaker 6: It looks like another Philippino village to me. But they said,
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Speaker 6: look at the kids. They're all wearing designer T shirts.
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Speaker 6: You don't get that in a normal Philippine village. She
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Speaker 6: owned a large property in the center of the village.
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Speaker 6: It was like an entertainment center for the mostly young
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Speaker 6: people who would work for her. And when we were there,
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Speaker 6: there was always crowds of kids sort of got bring
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Speaker 6: around them. And of course there was a demographic that
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Speaker 6: would be working for her or being primed to work
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Speaker 6: for her as soon as they were a little older.
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Speaker 4: M m.
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Speaker 1: M m m m h.
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Speaker 4: H H.
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Speaker 2: Nine.
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Speaker 3: I didn't or didn't worry then, do you know what
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Speaker 3: I'm thinking about? Why don't they? Nh b which is
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Speaker 3: sumpasas hand donut so being nothing, I eighty percent bonaraca.
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Speaker 9: How does that own?
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Speaker 3: Nh beyond?
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Speaker 10: Is that's it?
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Speaker 3: That is coming to bajo? But lay onion see power chayam,
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Speaker 3: which is you sho you the bigger your mam Ma Sha.
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Speaker 3: Long business.
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Speaker 1: Happen, repartments.
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Speaker 4: Sometimes takes.
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Speaker 9: You laborata.
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Speaker 6: If you ask anybody about marya Capara state suddenly suffer
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Speaker 6: from amnesia and reluctant to talk about it. One shopkeeper
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Speaker 6: who lives near her house says, everybody knows about what's
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Speaker 6: going on, but nobody will talk to you.
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Speaker 4: About it.
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Speaker 6: People are terrified to talk about what's going on. Not
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Speaker 6: only terrified, but probably invested as well, because everybody has
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Speaker 6: a son or a daughter, or a brother or a
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Speaker 6: sister somehow involved in one side of the scam or
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Speaker 6: the other.
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Speaker 3: No, mamma, mister gay event, no chain, I don't know
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Speaker 3: the chain and set up. No event name and chain
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Speaker 3: haw masters, I don't want to that. Or I see
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Speaker 3: miss change someone good, promise gin and gets well. Bag.
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Speaker 6: With money, you can you can literally buy people. And
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Speaker 6: that's technically what she was what she was doing. Maria
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Speaker 6: Capras came from an extremely poor background. She was living
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Speaker 6: in the slums in Manila. When she first arrived in
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Speaker 6: the village, the neighbors told me she was so poor
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Speaker 6: she'd have to beg for a bowl of rice to
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Speaker 6: feed her and her two children. She had nothing at all.
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Speaker 6: She's a slum dog millionaires. Effectively, she's come from nothing
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Speaker 6: and become extremely rich in an extremely dark way.
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Speaker 14: I got a random Facebook request one night. One looked
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Speaker 14: like in a attractive female. At first, I was resistant
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Speaker 14: because I didn't know this person at all. At the time,
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Speaker 14: I didn't think nothing of it, like I said, so
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Speaker 14: we started chatting. The second that we got onto the webcam,
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Speaker 14: this person was already removing their clothing.
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Speaker 12: I did not anticipate this.
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Speaker 14: It wasn't that kind of conversation prior to that.
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Speaker 4: I just thought they wanted the top.
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Speaker 14: They started removing their clothing, started doing some vulgar things
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Speaker 14: with toys and stuff like that, and then started asking me.
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Speaker 5: To remove my clothing.
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Speaker 4: I was resistant for.
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Speaker 12: A long time, for maybe about fifteen minutes.
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Speaker 3: I didn't really know this person.
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Speaker 4: I didn't want to do that.
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Speaker 3: I'm not really into that whole thing either, you know
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Speaker 3: what I mean.
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Speaker 5: But eventually I did and I showed them my private area. Yeah,
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Speaker 5: this person proceeded to stop the video chat and the
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Speaker 5: screen was completely plain. And once that happened, I kind
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Speaker 5: of realized something wasn't right.
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Speaker 9: Through peace book.
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Speaker 3: And was once Nana and young plan oh night that
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Speaker 3: was now, which is because straight up a made louis
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Speaker 3: Na na Ana was a sky paramat bjol m hmm.
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Speaker 6: I saw Maria Capras and prison. She explained to me,
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Speaker 6: actually how it all works, says that within twenty minutes, uh,
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Speaker 6: the chat gets so intimates.
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Speaker 3: But the whole guy in and see or Maqita it's
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Speaker 3: a game. I know paita, but once I maybe application
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Speaker 3: young vijo now gaym namen automatic, I know that vigo
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Speaker 3: i ainanila, I know not p in side.
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Speaker 7: There are pre recorded videos, you know, controlled by key
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Speaker 7: key points.
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Speaker 3: If you're in a bidon with your hands, maybe with
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Speaker 3: click and you two minutes two minutes, you clicked miss
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Speaker 3: two minutes, but maybe you flying key as your selections that.
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Speaker 7: Foreign combination of keys to have that pre recorded video
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Speaker 7: play as if you're really doing it for him.
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Speaker 3: Which is shown the miss that post once not now,
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Speaker 3: I mean is the record after non record namini. But
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Speaker 3: my information like peaceba mamaa insalamlia or my pamilia, like
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Speaker 3: a loyal lola or my pin san gano.
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Speaker 12: Well, they don't need to be an its expert or
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Speaker 12: hackers because all this private information is already shared in
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Speaker 12: your social media platform. For example, if you have a
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Speaker 12: working experience somewhere you already entered, where which locations you work,
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Speaker 12: which company works, They don't want only you be a
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Speaker 12: target because all those friends, all those members which they
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Speaker 12: are in your social media okay, eh n be a
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Speaker 12: valuable target to them.
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Speaker 3: That's after you know the name had no information Namen
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Speaker 3: together with the big Joe Nando on top post in a.
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Speaker 8: The time the lower.
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Speaker 3: Once the show.
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Speaker 4: May have.
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Speaker 3: I mean that parallel Malician Bijo in the if a
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Speaker 3: forward Namin Salahad pins and kigan.
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Speaker 11: In and if you can record something and you can
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Speaker 11: play over again, then the traumatization just happens each time.
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Speaker 4: You see.
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Speaker 3: It's not a big passion and I'm Mayam an Appli,
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Speaker 3: so it's a nama on link.
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Speaker 10: You know you're not nah is.
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Speaker 3: Usual. You maybe sell your things, sell your annal, you know,
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Speaker 3: apply and says better not gonna get the empire.
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Speaker 11: When you are you are threatened that these things will
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Speaker 11: be released publicly, you literally panic right and and you
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Speaker 11: get very upset, and many of these young people become
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Speaker 11: very ani is very depressed.
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Speaker 3: The suicide guessing what my guys, my cap with buying
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Speaker 3: your pins and Copailia you being a black medical and me.
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Speaker 10: Client now in the big Nah, I know, I know,
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Speaker 10: I know you can do this to me.
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Speaker 4: Do not not?
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Speaker 3: People can not? Okay, this is your vibe. I send
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Speaker 3: your you know, begin actually police so then then train No,
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Speaker 3: it's some es but early Makamin the journal and coming young.
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Speaker 3: I know, yeah, so basically general and I can keep
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Speaker 3: goes up now be big to my head orders they
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Speaker 3: beginning now SI basics now a more biby joan more
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Speaker 3: know I've reached times sad thirteen minutes and in Uni
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Speaker 3: h no sure mortgage us mons is a pay par
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Speaker 3: that's after you. Yeah, but Eddie, I know they're gonna
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Speaker 3: be dumping the same good morning and that's my anim
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Speaker 3: be you know, but as some hoo, but Mama would
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Speaker 3: mean the Bay black milk that was that was for example,
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Speaker 3: through dag or des Chad has been.
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Speaker 6: While she had the teams of young people running the
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Speaker 6: sex stortion market, she had another team of people helping
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Speaker 6: her produce fake I D cars with which she going
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Speaker 6: She or her lieutenant would go and collect the money from.
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Speaker 4: The Western Union branches.
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Speaker 3: Through Big I D.
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Speaker 6: The way it worked is that to collect these transfers,
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Speaker 6: you just need an I D card that matches the
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Speaker 6: name on the transfer from overseas. And in parallel to
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Speaker 6: her extortion business, it appears that Maria Capra has had
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Speaker 6: a cottage industry producing fake ID cards that is a.
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Speaker 3: Black million what are you mentioned by? You know on
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Speaker 3: top branch and thuriding Western Union parad and.
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Speaker 2: From a.
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Speaker 9: Money shop.
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Speaker 8: That is part of the syndicate is much easier than
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Speaker 8: with drawing the money from a money shop that is
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Speaker 8: not owned or part of the syndicate. So the the
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Speaker 8: syndicate can manipulate the transaction and the release of money.
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Speaker 8: But when you trace the money, the details about the
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Speaker 8: i D it's all fictitious.
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Speaker 12: It's a fake idea.
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Speaker 9: It's a big idea, definitely.
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Speaker 15: So for the last decade or so, we've been focusing
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Speaker 15: on making the world more open and connected, and we're not.
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Speaker 12: Done with this yet.
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Speaker 15: We're always going to do this. But I used to
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Speaker 15: think that if we just gave people a voice and
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Speaker 15: and help some people connect, that that would make the
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Speaker 15: world a lot better all by itself.
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Speaker 12: And in a lot of ways it has.
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Speaker 16: It's probably the tip of the Iceberg.
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Speaker 4: Guests.
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Speaker 16: We find it about fifty to sixty percent of the
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Speaker 16: scammers do most of their scamming on Facebook. Facebook is
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Speaker 16: a perfect platform for the scammers because everything they need
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Speaker 16: is in the one place. They're able to meet the
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Speaker 16: people there, they're able to do video chat with them there,
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Speaker 16: they have their life there, their photographs, the list of
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Speaker 16: their friends and their family, so it's just all encapsulated
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Speaker 16: in the one place for them. I'd say we get
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Speaker 16: around five hundred reports a month, which is about fifteen
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Speaker 16: a day.
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Speaker 4: When we originally.
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Speaker 16: Started doing this, we were getting around forty percent of
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Speaker 16: people coming to us, saying that the scammers from the Philippines.
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Speaker 16: Today we get around fifty five to sixty percent of
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Speaker 16: them will come from the Philippines.
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Speaker 7: Number one requirement for a person to involve him or
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Speaker 7: herself in a sextortion is the Internet, so it can
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Speaker 7: be anywhere in the Philippines.
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Speaker 9: There is no really specific location.
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Speaker 12: They just need a very basic things. Okay, definitely they
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Speaker 12: need some device.
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Speaker 3: Saying Undila internet is pat Wi Fi, the ldit.
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Speaker 16: A long.
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Speaker 12: This indicates can be anywhere, Okay. They don't need to
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Speaker 12: be in the certain location to find the victim in
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Speaker 12: that particular location. They can see it anywhere and the
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Speaker 12: victim can be far far away.
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Speaker 7: There is a continuous increase of the numbers of recorded
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Speaker 7: sextortion cases. You could see from the statistic that there
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Speaker 7: is an increase of one hundred percent per years. Eighty
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Speaker 7: percent of our recordeds extortion cases uses social media. There's
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Speaker 7: a huge difference in investigating a traditional crime like a
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Speaker 7: simple robbery, a case of homicide or a case of murder.
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Speaker 9: There is a gap.
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Speaker 7: There's a huge gap on the procedure of how you
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Speaker 7: will investigate cybergrime.
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Speaker 9: The people do not know.
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Speaker 7: They do not understand that we can just hack into
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Speaker 7: someone's system and determine who is the person behind those
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Speaker 7: who is victimizing them. Another thing, the social media administrators,
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Speaker 7: they're outside the Philippines, they're not here days. Networks tooks months,
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Speaker 7: several months for us to acquire the information that miss
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Speaker 7: we sort no we need. We need a lot of
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Speaker 7: information to be able to identify with the people behind
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Speaker 7: the cyber crime.
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Speaker 13: So how do we know who we are in reality
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Speaker 13: talking to? We are not able to verify that identity
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Speaker 13: in a way like we have that possibility in a
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Speaker 13: physical world. There's no need for verification. Due to the
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Speaker 13: fact that social media priority is users adoption. They want
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Speaker 13: more users on their platform. We do not have a
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Speaker 13: worldwide legislation that can cover those cyber crimes, and criminals
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Speaker 13: know that in some countries, they do not even need
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Speaker 13: to hide because they know that no one will come
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Speaker 13: and search for them.
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Speaker 3: You know, I know shag carpet police, the mantle and
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Speaker 3: glum based not holy that pos but once now maybe
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Speaker 3: sa being on my holy hand Mas big that's my
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Speaker 3: bus together Lama Mona and medjia a pass. I'm say
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Speaker 3: ben young Bigona that rapt by maroon Do I know?
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Speaker 3: Naa police didn't as the police didn't down a union
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Speaker 3: to a protector look police.
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Speaker 6: Mon Maria Caparas was quite brazen about the way she operated.
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Speaker 6: She also posted pictures of her thirteen year old son
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Speaker 6: lying down covered in tharus and peso notes and lots
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Speaker 6: of other quite overt pictures. She was very open about
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Speaker 6: the money they were making, celebrating Christmas and wearing T
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Speaker 6: shirts with her name on it, calling them the all
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Speaker 6: Stars North Hills Village and with a logo printed on
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Speaker 6: the back showing a thumb across which is the sign
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Speaker 6: you get if you're blocked on Facebook and saying we
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Speaker 6: hate this. I don't see She personally sees any reason
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Speaker 6: to stop so long as she can continue getting away
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Speaker 6: with it, and all the signs are that she's going
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Speaker 6: to carry on getting away with it. She's the Queen
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Speaker 6: of sextortion and North Hills Village is her fiefdom, her kingdom.
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