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College Football Playoff Semifinals: Penn State vs Notre Dame & Ohio State vs Texas | Charlie Marlow & Eric Messersmith · Kenny Wallace Media

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  You know, at this point in my life, I'm not a huge NFL fan
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  anymore. I kind of watch it more through
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  fantasy football. Like I had a good fantasy
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  football year, so I was more into it.
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  But I'm like all the way into the College Football Playoff.
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  So for you right now, are you more into the NFL or college or
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  is this a different year? Because so folks know you are a
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  Penn State grad, correct? So you have a huge game tonight.
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  And by the way, let's let people know.
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  So this game is 630 central time, I believe.
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  I just looked at the line. OK, 6:30 central time.
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  So we have obviously Penn State Notre Dame on ESPN.
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  Notre Dame is a one point favorite.
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  The total is 44 1/2. And I saw an axe before we
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  started. Apparently the flu bug is going
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  through Notre Dame's locker room, but it looks like it's not
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  with a lot of starters. It says like a lot of backups
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  and a lot of special teamers, right?
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  I mean I don't want anyone to get sick like long term but
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  maybe just for a 24 hour bug. Yeah, for sure.
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  Here you go. Let me let me find it for you.
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  Here. Here's the here's the tweet I
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  saw. OK, This is from Tyler Horka.
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  He covers Notre Dame for on three sports.
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  He says an hour ago been told the flu is going around the
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  Notre Dame locker room. Those who have it have it bad.
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  But it sounds like that's mostly backups and special teams
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  players. Still something to monitor for
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  the Fighting Irish going into the Orange Bowl versus Penn
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  State tonight. What do you think, James
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  Franklin? Your boys, they going to get it
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  done or what? Well, Franklin's history would
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  tell you probably not. I mean, he, as you know, is Ohio
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  State fan. Penn State and under Franklin
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  has been great against everybody except Ohio State and Michigan,
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  which happened to be the two biggest games that Penn State
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  has, although they don't now. They don't play Michigan every
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  year. They did not play them this
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  year, but I think it's hard for Franklin won two playoff games.
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  Let's give him some credit, but they were against teams that
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  Penn State should have beat. We the college, everyone knows
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  that the the playoff seeding this year was janky.
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  It will change next year. I assume they will not give
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  automatic bids to the all to the first top 4 seeds to conference
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  champions. That distorted the whole thing.
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  It made Penn State the what did they end up being the five seed?
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  No, I'm sorry, the six seed where they should have been the
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  four. So they got to play two games
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  against teams where they were big favors.
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  I think they were double digit favorites in both of their first
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  round games. So based on his track record,
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  probably not, but this would be that kind of look.
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  This would be that program defining win at Franklin.
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  It's kind of like Ryan Day in Ohio State with you.
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  Like Franklins had a if you look at his record, you can't fire
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  the guy. I mean, he's been very
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  successful, but he has hit a ceiling that is clear and
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  obvious. And this would be a breakthrough
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  for that. If you get, if you win a third
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  playoff game, beating A-Team now that you are a slight underdog
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  against, I think Notre Dame's A2 point favorite point and a half,
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  two points that and get to the freaking College Football
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  Playoff championship, probably to lose to Ohio State again.
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  I think that is a hell of a nice season.
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  And that would be something that I think Penn State fans could
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  get behind and say, OK, we still can't beat Ohio State, assuming
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  the Ohio State beats Texas and and then beats Penn State.
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  But at least we broke through and beat a pretty damn good
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  Notre Dame team and had a nice run 1 three playoff games got to
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  the college football championship.
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  So I would take that. You asked me about my NFL versus
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  college. My first love way before I went
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  to college was the Steelers. My dad was a huge Steeler fan
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  and this was during the cower era when he got there and they
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  were good and they they got to the Super Bowl of the mid 90s
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  against the Cowboys. So that cemented my love for the
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  Steelers. And I think, I think you and I
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  talked about this before as I've gotten older, to be honest with
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  you, I still love sports, but I, I used to have a favorite team
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  and sometimes 2 that I followed in like every major sport and I
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  would watch all their like, I, I, for some reason, as a very,
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  very middle class kid growing up in central Pennsylvania, fell in
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  love with Duke basketball. It was after they beat UNLV.
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  Do you remember that UNLV was undefeated?
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  I think it was 90 or 91. That was Larry Johnson and
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  Stacey Augman. Greg Anthony, they were.
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  Greg Anthony. Yep, Yep.
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  I think all five of their starters ended up playing in the
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  NBAI mean, they were unbelievable.
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  They were a huge favorite. It was like 20 points in the
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  Final Four and Duke beat them. And then the next year is when
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  Leitner hit the shot against Kentucky and I was watching that
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  live and I that's meant to me. So I'm watching all these Duke
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  games. There's a middle class kid who
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  didn't really, you know, take high school as serious as I
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  should have. Like there was no chance I was
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  going to Duke. I didn't realize that I probably
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  would have hated the kids who want the Duke, these elitist,
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  you know, nerd snobs, right? But I that my point is, I was a
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  huge that has all fallen on the wayside.
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  The only thing I really care about now are the Steelers and
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  and Penn State when they're good.
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  So I'm more of an NFL guy. But I will say I don't know if
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  this is true for you. I have watched more college
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  football this year than I have in probably at least a decade
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  because of the playoff. I think having that expanded
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  playoff, having stakes for more games has really like, even
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  though the seating is screwed up and a lot of the games have been
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  blowouts, in fact, all but one have been blowouts.
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  I think this College Football Playoff at 12 teams has been a
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  tremendous success for the sport.
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  And once they make some tweaks to it, I think it's gonna be
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  it's gonna be great for college football.
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  Yeah, I've always been a more, much more college football fan
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  than NFL growing up in Toledo. So you had the Lions, who
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  they're they're OK. They're like always 9:00 and
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  7:00. But they had Barry Sanders
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  growing up, but they never did much in the playoffs.
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  Then you had the Browns. My uncle was a big Browns fan
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  and the Browns went away. I've always loved Ohio State
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  football. It's really, it's really the
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  only team I care about at all at this point in my life.
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  And I've always said this, and I know other people will will say,
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  oh, we don't feel sorry for Ohio State fans.
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  But in a weird way, Ohio State has been so good my entire
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  lifetime that there's not a lot of exciting games, right?
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  Like if you just look at the schedule seriously, and I know
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  people say, Oh, you can't complain about that, but like,
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  I'm kind of busy now and I got stuff to do and I have kids, so
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  I'm probably not going to watch them play Purdue and and maybe
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  they lose to Purdue every once in a while.
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  They lost to Purdue several years ago.
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  But like when I look at the schedule, I'm like, OK, you
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  know, when Michigan game is like Penn State, OK, there's usually
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  one good non conference game. Usually that wasn't really the
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  case this year kind of out of nowhere.
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  Indiana was good this year. So that was a game and they had
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  no, I'm sorry, they had Oregon this year.
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  What am I talking about? OK, Oregon, Yeah.
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  That. Was a great game.
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  Oregon is a well, Oregon's a conference game.
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  I was thinking like, wait, they played Oregon.
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  You forget that Oregon is now in the freaking Big 10.
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  So anyway, just right there, What is that four or five games
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  that on paper you're looking at? Like I'm into that game.
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  They actually played Nebraska close a game I didn't even
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  watch. But I agree with you.
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  I think the best thing about the College Football Playoff
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  expanding, even though the games for the most part have sucked
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  and I think that will improve when you get rid of the auto
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  buys and you have normal seating.
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  But to me, the last right, the last 10 years, there's only been
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  3 interesting games in the playoffs every year and it's the
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  College Football Playoff games, it's the two semifinals and it's
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  the championship game. I used to like bowl games.
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  I used to care about bowl games, but ever since the players
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  started opting out and then you had the transfer portal, I'm
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  sorry, like I got in this big argument.
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  It was it was half fun with Mizzou fans last year because
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  they played Ohio State. But I'm sorry, if you're a big
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  time program from the Big 10 or the SEC, if you don't make the
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  College Football Playoff, your season is essentially over at
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  that point. And a lot of it's luck at that
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  point, like if you have a young team, a bunch of freshmen,
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  sophomores, well, they might play, but you may play another
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  team. They have a bunch of NFL guys or
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  half their teams in the portal. So again, like if you're playing
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  one of these bowl games, you want to win, don't get me wrong.
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  But like anybody trying to tell me that's a real indication of
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  that year's team. If you have 5 dudes sitting out
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  for the NFL, you have 8 dudes in the portal, right?
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  You got a couple people who are kind of banged up, so they're
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  not going to play, but they would if the game mattered,
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  like, I'm sorry. So that's where the College
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  Football Playoff is great because they added like, what,
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  12 games Now? You have a whole month, you have
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  a whole month's worth of games to look forward to, four rounds
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  of playoffs to look forward to these games.
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  That to me is what's great. And the games are going to
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  improve. This has been a weird year I
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  think. Yeah, they'll they'll make the
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  obvious correction, which is eliminate the automatic top 4
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  seeds being conference champions.
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  Although I hope they keep the conference champions getting in
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  because Arizona State is a good example.
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  I don't think they would have made it right if it were if it
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  were just 12 teams with no automatic bid.
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  And look what they did against Texas.
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  I mean, that was the game so far.
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  I do think it is important to some degree that these these two
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  games and the championship be competitive.
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  I mean, I think that would be nice after we've seen
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  essentially 7 of the 8 games were more than one score that
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  have been decided so far. But in terms of getting like,
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  think about these iconic programs, Penn State, Notre
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  Dame, Ohio State and Texas. The, the, the tradition, the
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  history, having them play in games with this kind of stakes,
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  the playoffs been a huge success, even with the blowouts
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  and, and part of the two is the regular season.
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  I, there were so many more games late in in the year that I cuz
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  on Saturdays I flip around, I'm watching my son, I'm doing other
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  things. But normally I would have never
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  paid these games any attention. But because one or both of the
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  teams had a chance at the playoff, I watched 5-10 minutes
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  of the game that I would have never even thought about in
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  years past. That is what the playoff can do.
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  College football's got to tweak the playoff a little bit.
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  They have to. I think college football needs
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  to standardize. Obviously, the big one is NIL.
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  They have to figure that out. There has to be some type of
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  structure around that because the playing field is so unequal
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  and so chaotic right now. And also maybe tweak the
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  transfer portal. I think it's twice a year now.
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  Maybe move that to once. James Franklin talked about
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  standardizing the schedules with the number of conference games.
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  I think maybe eliminating conference championships because
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  one of the things about the conference championship is
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  losing it actually was better than winning it.
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  I mean, look at the path Penn State had versus the path Oregon
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  had. And Oregon beat Penn State in
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  the Big 10 championship. Now, that probably again will
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  change next year to some degree if they eliminate the conference
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  championship game. But it it distorts teams getting
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  into the playoffs too, because now you're debating whether a
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  team that lost a conference championship game should get in
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  over a team that didn't even appear in a conference
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  championship game. Like Alabama was the big example
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  this year. Alabama didn't make it to the
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  SEC championship game, and people were talking about
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  whether they should get in over SMU, who made it and lost.
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  And it, you know, it's like, do you punish SMU because they lost
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  the conference championship game and the committee ultimate, I
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  think made the right call going with SMU.
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  Yeah. I'm glad they didn't punish SMU.
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  I I think one good thing, and I got in a nice little argument on
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  acts with somebody about this the other day.
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  I think they needed to expand the playoff and this year's
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  playoff, in my opinion, proves that.
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  I don't think you needed 12. And here's the here's the
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  difference. If you want to argue about Ole
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  Miss, Alabama, South Carolina, like who should be the 13th
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  team? Those are all fun debates in my
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  opinion. I don't think any of those teams
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  this year could actually have won the national championship.
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  And that's the difference. Like, if you want to bitch about
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  the 13th team, that's fine and it's fun for content.
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  But I think in years past, because the goal of sports is to
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  have the best or most deserving champion.
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  And I think with only four teams, there were probably some
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  years where a fifth seed, a sixth seed could have actually
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  won the national championship in this format that we have right
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  now. Case in point is Ohio State and
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  Notre Dame if you went by straight seating, Eric.
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  So obviously Boise and Arizona State had higher seats.
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  But if you went by the rankings I'm talking about, I believe
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  Ohio State would be 6 and Notre Dame would be 5.
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  So that right there shows you that they would not be in the
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  playoffs in previous years and and they've had the most
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  impressive wins of the playoffs by far.
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  Ohio State smoking Oregon. I think you can make the case
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  that Notre Dame beating Big Bad Georgia was another huge win
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  right there. So those teams wouldn't even
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  have been in the playoff in previous years.
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  And that's why I think they had to expand to either six or
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  eight. I'm not going to complain about
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  12, but that's why I don't think the arguments for the teams left
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  out. To me, it's fun, but like, they
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  don't really have a case. None of those teams, in my
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  opinion, could have won three games or what, four games?
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  Ohio State will have to win four games, right?
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  They already beat Tennessee, Oregon.
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  They'd have to beat Texas and then Notre Dame or Penn State.
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  That's a tough trek. I don't think any of those nine
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  and three SEC teams could have won four games to win the
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  national championship. And that's the difference to me.
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  Yeah, absolutely. It it would be the 3-4 if you
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  did just straight seating this, the final four would be the
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  three, 4-5 and six seats. So that would tell you that you
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  need more than four if you want to get the true champion.
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  And also I think Arizona State made a strong statement to tell
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  you that you can't necessarily just assume that the the
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  secondary conferences, let's call them the ACC and the Big 12
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  are going to be inferior every year.
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  Some years obviously their champion will be in far
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  inferior, but not this year. And the outlook, the SEC
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  obviously top to bottom is a way stronger conference than the Big
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  12. But I like a system where the
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  Big 12 gets one team at least and the SEC, I'm sorry, the 4th
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  or 15 from the SEC gets left out.
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  I don't feel too bad from that. And I think Arizona State
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  validated that with the way that they played despite losing.
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  So I think that was I think 12's the perfect number for now.
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  Let's see how it plays out over the next few years.
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  Let's see what happens next year when the seeding.
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  I assume they'll make the change for next year with the real
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  seeding and not distort it with the conference champions getting
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  the top 4. The biggest thing is you said it
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  improves the playoff system. It gives you a true champion.
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  Also, like I said earlier, makes the regular season mean more.
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  It had so much state, so much in terms of stakes to so many
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  games. So I think it's been a huge
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  success despite 7 of the 8 games essentially being blowouts or
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  close to blowout so far. I, I didn't think about this
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  when you were talking about Ohio State did because you were such
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  a fan when you were young. Did you ever think about going
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  to Ohio State? Yeah, so many people though,
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  like my brother went to Ohio State at the start.
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  My sister who's younger, she went to Ohio State.
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  I had so many aunts, uncles, so many friends, like we would
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  party at Ohio State growing up. So in a way I kind of wanted to
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  do something different. I I do wish I went to Bradley.
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  I wish I would have went somewhere that had a football
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  team because I do think it's fun.
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  Not just, you know, to me, it's not just when you're there, like
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  having your football Saturday when you go there is awesome,
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  but it's also just the rest of your life.
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  Like, it's pretty cool to have a team like that the rest of your
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  life to go to bowl games. Same with basketball.
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  Now Bradley has an OK basketball team.
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  So like, Bradley will make the NCAA tournament every once in a
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  while. I think they made it three times
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  since I've been graduated college.
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  But it'd be pretty sweet. Like for you, Penn State, you
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  get a awesome football season every year.
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  I know Penn State's not great at basketball, but I look at it
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  like Michigan State, for example.
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  I worked in Lansing for two years and I was about 2423 years
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  old. In a way, I feel like I went to
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  Michigan State because I partied the bar so much and I kind of
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  got for that two years. I was I was I was into like the
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  Tom Izzo basketball team, the Mark Dantonio football team.
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  And so to have that the rest of your life to buy your gear to go
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  to the games is pretty cool. But like growing up, I kind of
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  wanted to do something different because so many people around me
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  went to Ohio State. Hey, let's we're at an hour.
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  Thank you everybody for watching support our Saint Louis sponsors
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  corner butcher and chophouse. Let's give our predictions for
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  the College Football Playoff. I'll I'll start here.
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  And by the way, I'm going to, I'm going to pick Notre Dame.
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  But I, I've actually gained a lot of respect for Penn State
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  this year. And by the way, more so in their
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  losses than their wins. Like I don't look at them
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  beating SMU and Boise as much as playing really close to Ohio
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  State. And even that Oregon game was a
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  shootout. So like the defense wasn't
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  wasn't running all cylinders, but like to score 37 on Oregon
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  to lose by, you know, one possession.
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  I know it wasn't exactly like that the whole game, but I I
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  think this Penn State team is legit.
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  But I think you're running into the most legit Notre Dame team
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  in my lifetime of remembering football.
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  Like I was alive for Lou Holtz, but I don't remember it like in
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  the last 30 years. I think this is probably the
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  best Notre Dame team. I'm going to say Notre Dame wins
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  close and I'll be a Homer. I I think Ohio State wins by
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  about 10. What do you think?
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  I'm I'm gonna go with Ohio State as well.
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  And I think they're the most talented team in the country.
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  And that Michigan game we that was a fluke.
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  I think they've proven that in the playoff.
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  They're just on a roll right now.
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  And Texas's defense proved it's pretty vulnerable against
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  Arizona State. It's not this all time great
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  defense like people were saying it was.
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  So I'm gonna go to Ohio State fairly easily.
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  Penn State I think eats it out over Notre Dame.
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  I'll be a Homer here. And then once again, we lose to
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  Ohio State yet again, this time on the biggest national stage in
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  the biggest moment, just like we always do.
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  So I'll, I think Ohio State will, will win it.
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  I will say whether Notre Dame or Penn State wins that game will
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  not surprise me one bit. And I guess that's not just
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  going by the line. The line is one point.
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  I haven't even looked at the Ohio State line.
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  I know it opened at like 4 1/2 and then it went to 6 1/2.
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  I don't know what it's at now. I'll check, but I, I would be,
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  I, I shouldn't say I'd be that surprised because Ohio State
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  laid such a egg versus Michigan and their offensive game plan
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  was just, it just made no sense. I think people now understand
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  why Ohio State fans were mad at Ryan Day because it didn't make
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  any sense of, of the game plan offensively versus Michigan.
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  So could they lay another egg? Sure.
• 18:45
  I'm trying to find the spread on that game.
• 18:48
  Let's see here. Here it is.
• 18:50
  Where are we at, Baba? Here we go.
• 18:52
  OK, so this is tomorrow. Another another 630 game
• 18:57
  tomorrow. I'm buying time error.
• 18:59
  Where's the God damn spread? Oh, for which game we got?
• 19:03
  Ohio State. OK, here it is.
• 19:05
  Seven right I. See, I see six on ESPN.
• 19:09
  So either way, opened at ESPN, opened at 5, it's 6.
• 19:15
  The Overrunner's 54 1/2 and now it's 53 1/2, so hopefully a fun
• 19:20
  shoot out. The Notre Dame Penn State game
• 19:22
  is supposed to be a little lower scoring.
• 19:25
  All right, so you I think it'll be good.
• 19:26
  Ohio State, I have Ohio. State and Penn State with Ohio
• 19:29
  State winning and I'm excited for the NFL playoffs.
• 19:32
  We can talk more about that next week.
• 19:33
  The first round. You know, most of these games or
• 19:37
  not most, but at least half of them, there's a really clear
• 19:39
  favorite. And of course the big boys,
• 19:42
  Kansas City and Detroit don't even play.
• 19:44
  They get the first round bye. But I love the NFL playoffs that
• 19:46
  first weekend with six games. And now that the college
• 19:49
  football playoffs expanded, think about this.
• 19:50
  You have starting tonight, you have college football semi final
• 19:53
  tonight, college football semi final tomorrow, NFL playoff
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  games Saturday, Sunday and Monday.
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  I mean, that is quite a nice five day run.
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  Love it. Yeah, we'll talk NFL next week.
• 20:06
  To be honest, I don't really know anything about any of these
• 20:08
  teams, so I'll watch. I'll watch a couple of the games
• 20:11
  this weekend. Although I was looking at them,
• 20:14
  a lot of them looked. I know people were joking about
• 20:16
  this like that. The Houston Texans always get
• 20:18
  that first shit game. It does seem like that.
• 20:21
  It seems like there's a lot of shit games and it's crazy that
• 20:23
  the Lions again, growing up around Lions country and
• 20:26
  covering the Lions when they were horrible.
• 20:30
  It is amazing that the lions are now the bullies.
• 20:32
  Like it's great. It's it's almost something that
• 20:34
  doesn't it doesn't even make sense.
• 20:35
  Like you're you're kind of surprised.
• 20:38
  It's possible the Lions were so bad for so long that it's just
• 20:42
  it's weird that they're this good.
• 20:45
  It's great. I think it's a great story.
• 20:47
  And for anyone, I'm obviously not a Lions fan, but anyone who
• 20:50
  grew up in his roughly our age remembers the Lions.
• 20:52
  Even even people like you, people who were far further away
• 20:56
  because of Barry Sanders, because they were always at
• 20:58
  least competitive with him, even though they were rarely good.
• 21:02
  And also on Thanksgiving, I really think that matters
• 21:04
  because every people would see them every year and you would
• 21:07
  see Sanders and they'd be playing in that game that, you
• 21:10
  know, pretty much everybody in America was watching every year.