Latest / Crime and Horror / The most BELIEVABLE alien encounter The Skinwalker Ranch story
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Some call this location the most paranormal location on the planet.
- 0:04Speaker 1: Others called this whole thing just a big hoax. But
- 0:08Speaker 1: what is undeniably true, and frankly, what makes this case
- 0:11Speaker 1: so much more interesting is that, unlike the vast majority
- 0:15Speaker 1: of paranormal stories and claims, this case was put to
- 0:19Speaker 1: an enormous amount of scientific scrutiny. In fact, there was
- 0:23Speaker 1: a decade long study done on this case where PhDs
- 0:28Speaker 1: and scientists converged on this one location and basically around
- 0:32Speaker 1: the clock studied all these claims of the paranormal that
- 0:36Speaker 1: was happening in the area, and after a decade of research,
- 0:40Speaker 1: the findings are pretty mind blowing. And the case that
- 0:43Speaker 1: I'm referring to is none other than the very famous
- 0:46Speaker 1: skin Walker Ranch.
- 0:48Speaker 2: So the too long, didn't read version.
- 0:49Speaker 1: Of this story is you have a family that purchases
- 0:52Speaker 1: a ranch out in Utah, and as soon as they
- 0:55Speaker 1: move in, they start noticing some pretty bizarre things around
- 0:58Speaker 1: their property from some of their livestock going missing or
- 1:02Speaker 1: being harmed, they have strange sightings in the woods of
- 1:06Speaker 1: creatures and lights in the sky. They eventually report it
- 1:10Speaker 1: to the news, and that news story gets picked up
- 1:13Speaker 1: by a couple of other outlets, and a billionaire who
- 1:17Speaker 1: is obsessed with researching the paranormal sees this story. He
- 1:22Speaker 1: buys the property and installs an entire team of scientists
- 1:26Speaker 1: and researchers to basically try to figure out what was
- 1:29Speaker 1: happening at this ranch, and they spend ten years studying
- 1:33Speaker 1: this ranch. The outcome is, well, turns out some strange
- 1:37Speaker 1: things really were happening there before we get started. If
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- 2:03Speaker 2: All right on with the story.
- 2:05Speaker 1: In the northeastern corner of Utah lies a five hundred
- 2:08Speaker 1: acre plot of land, its old desert, where a ranch sits,
- 2:12Speaker 1: and that is Skinwalker Ranch. It was built in the
- 2:15Speaker 1: late eighteen hundreds early nineteen hundreds, and it was actually
- 2:18Speaker 1: built on a piece of land that had apparently been
- 2:21Speaker 1: cursed prior to its construction, the Navajo tribe had a
- 2:26Speaker 1: feud with the Ute's Native American tribe. The Utes were
- 2:30Speaker 1: selling off other Native Americans that they would capture, they
- 2:33Speaker 1: would sell them into slavery to the United States, And
- 2:36Speaker 1: so the Navajo, who had previously lived in the area
- 2:40Speaker 1: where this ranch actually was built, they were forced off
- 2:43Speaker 1: their land as the Utes came in and were rounding
- 2:45Speaker 1: them up and selling them into slavery. Then, before the
- 2:48Speaker 1: Navajo left that area, they cursed the land with what's
- 2:52Speaker 1: called the Skinwalker curse. The idea was they were going
- 2:54Speaker 1: to torment the Utes tribe for the hardships they had inflicted.
- 2:58Speaker 2: On the Navajo.
- 3:00Speaker 1: The Skinwalker curse legend has it is this curse where
- 3:04Speaker 1: these witches descend on the area and take the form
- 3:08Speaker 1: or wear the skin of various predatory animals in the area,
- 3:12Speaker 1: namely large wolves and foxes. They inhabit those bodies and
- 3:18Speaker 1: terrorize anybody in the cursed land. At some point, this
- 3:21Speaker 1: ranch is actually built on the land that had apparently
- 3:24Speaker 1: been cursed. It wasn't until many years later when owners
- 3:27Speaker 1: of that ranch started seeing predatory animals doing some very
- 3:32Speaker 1: strange things in and around their property that they did
- 3:35Speaker 1: some research on the area, learned about this curse, and
- 3:37Speaker 1: then before long the nickname it stuck. In nineteen ninety four,
- 3:41Speaker 1: Terry and Gwen Sherman purchased Skinwalker Ranch. It had actually
- 3:44Speaker 1: been abandoned by the previous owners for the last few years,
- 3:47Speaker 1: so when they purchased it, they got it for way
- 3:50Speaker 1: below market price. So they are just so excited to
- 3:53Speaker 1: be moving in. They breed cattle, and so they had
- 3:57Speaker 1: five hundred acres to let their cattle free roam.
- 4:00Speaker 2: It was like the dream purchased for this family.
- 4:03Speaker 1: And so when they finally do move in, like the
- 4:05Speaker 1: day they move in, they don't really care that you know,
- 4:08Speaker 1: the grass is overgrown, it looks like things are kind
- 4:10Speaker 1: of in disrepair. And in fact, when they go into
- 4:13Speaker 1: the homestead, like the actual house on the property, they
- 4:17Speaker 1: were so excited about everything that they kind of overlooked
- 4:21Speaker 1: some of the strange things that they immediately noticed about
- 4:23Speaker 1: the property. You know, they go inside and every window
- 4:27Speaker 1: has a dead bolt on it. The inside and outside
- 4:31Speaker 1: of every door in the house, not just the doors
- 4:33Speaker 1: leading outside, doors leading between rooms had locks the front
- 4:38Speaker 1: and backside. They noticed these big pikes that were driven
- 4:41Speaker 1: into the ground at the front door and back door
- 4:43Speaker 1: of the property with massive chains stringing off of them,
- 4:47Speaker 1: which looked like, you know, pretty powerful guard dogs.
- 4:49Speaker 2: Have been there.
- 4:50Speaker 1: They're thinking to themselves, well, there's a huge piece of property.
- 4:54Speaker 1: You know, perhaps the previous owners are a little bit
- 4:56Speaker 1: paranoid because they're kind of isolated, and so they did
- 5:00Speaker 1: really raise the red flag when to be honest, I
- 5:03Speaker 1: moved into a property where every single door and window
- 5:06Speaker 1: had multiple locks on it, they had these big guard dogs.
- 5:08Speaker 1: I'd probably ask a couple questions, but you know what,
- 5:11Speaker 1: Terry and Gwen, they're just so excited about this purchase
- 5:14Speaker 1: that again, they kind of just overlook it. So on
- 5:16Speaker 1: the day that they are moving in, Terry and Gwen
- 5:19Speaker 1: have some family members over to help them.
- 5:22Speaker 2: Offload trucks and move stuff into the homestead.
- 5:25Speaker 1: And it's during this process as they're moving things out
- 5:28Speaker 1: of the truck into the house, and again you got
- 5:31Speaker 1: to remember that the house is situated like right in
- 5:33Speaker 1: the middle of the property and you can see in
- 5:37Speaker 1: every direction basically unobstructed because it's basically open desert. But
- 5:41Speaker 1: the exception of a couple areas that are you know,
- 5:43Speaker 1: basically forests and as they're offloading some of the stuff
- 5:46Speaker 1: into the house. Terry looks out at one of these
- 5:50Speaker 1: tree lines and he notices this huge wolf or what
- 5:54Speaker 1: looks like a wolf, pretty pretty well off in the distance,
- 5:56Speaker 1: kind of.
- 5:57Speaker 2: Meandering its way over towards them.
- 6:00Speaker 1: But it's far enough off that this is not enough
- 6:02Speaker 1: to be totally worried about it. After all, I mean,
- 6:06Speaker 1: Terry was a rancher and his family were fairly rugged.
- 6:08Speaker 1: They other carried weapons, and they were used to, you know,
- 6:11Speaker 1: protecting their livestock from predators. So this was not a oh,
- 6:15Speaker 1: my goodness, I can't believe a wolf is near us.
- 6:17Speaker 1: It was more like, okay, let's make a note that
- 6:19Speaker 1: there's a wolf walking towards us.
- 6:21Speaker 2: And so Terry does.
- 6:22Speaker 1: He tells his family, hey, guys, just so you know,
- 6:23Speaker 1: there's a wolf coming towards us right now. And the
- 6:27Speaker 1: whole family is now standing near the truck and they're
- 6:30Speaker 1: watching this wolf. And Terry recalled as he's staring out
- 6:34Speaker 1: watching this wolf that's kind of almost walking in like
- 6:36Speaker 1: a snake, like a serpentine path, towards them from hundreds
- 6:41Speaker 1: of yards out. It's still quite a ways out, Terry
- 6:44Speaker 1: notices that there was a fence that was out where
- 6:48Speaker 1: this wolf is, and the fence was pretty big and
- 6:50Speaker 1: the spaces between posts were about six feet. When he
- 6:53Speaker 1: had a good look at the wolf next to the fence,
- 6:55Speaker 1: he could tell that the wolf was at least six
- 6:58Speaker 1: feet long. And he was thinking that I was playing
- 7:00Speaker 1: a trick on me, like, that's an enormous wolf. That's
- 7:03Speaker 1: the biggest wolf I've ever seen. But the wolf wasn't
- 7:06Speaker 1: acting angry or aggressive. It was just kind of skulping
- 7:10Speaker 1: its way towards some very nonchalant, you know, broad daylight.
- 7:14Speaker 1: And at some point, you know, Terry and the family,
- 7:16Speaker 1: they're standing behind the truck, and Terry said that they
- 7:19Speaker 1: all had this feeling that the wolf was not going
- 7:21Speaker 1: to harm them. And the wolf got about one hundred
- 7:24Speaker 1: yards away, and Terry and his family are transfixed.
- 7:27Speaker 2: And he even said he didn't understand.
- 7:28Speaker 1: Why they weren't scared, or why they weren't you running
- 7:31Speaker 1: away or shooting at it or something, but they just
- 7:33Speaker 1: they didn't. All of them are just standing there watching
- 7:36Speaker 1: this wolf that's massive, and the wolf is wagging its
- 7:40Speaker 1: tail and acting like a domesticated dog. The wolf comes
- 7:44Speaker 1: over and goes up near Terry's father, who was there
- 7:47Speaker 1: helping unload some of the gear they had, and Terry's
- 7:51Speaker 1: father just kind of reflexively reaches out to start petting
- 7:55Speaker 1: this is petting like up at its head level, this
- 7:57Speaker 1: massive wolf, and the wolf just acts like a domesticated
- 8:02Speaker 1: dog and kind of rubs against his hand and then
- 8:04Speaker 1: starts walking away from them, just wagging its tail and
- 8:07Speaker 1: not doing anything, not causing them any harm, not snarling, growling, nothing,
- 8:12Speaker 1: but just as nonchalantly as it walked over to them,
- 8:14Speaker 1: it walks over to where they had a pen with
- 8:18Speaker 1: a couple of cows and calves inside of this pen,
- 8:21Speaker 1: and one of the calves had its head through the
- 8:23Speaker 1: post that was keeping them in this cage, just kind
- 8:26Speaker 1: of watching this wolf, and the wolf notices it and
- 8:29Speaker 1: in an instant jumps over to this calf and immediately
- 8:34Speaker 1: has the whole head of the calf in its jaws,
- 8:37Speaker 1: just trying to rip it out of the cage, but
- 8:39Speaker 1: it can't get it to squeeze through the cage. And
- 8:41Speaker 1: so all of a sudden, you know, like Terry and
- 8:43Speaker 1: his family are broken out of this weird trance, and
- 8:46Speaker 1: Terry starts firing shots at the wolf. It strikes the
- 8:50Speaker 1: wolf and has no impact. They run over, they start
- 8:53Speaker 1: hitting it with the back end of an axe. They're
- 8:55Speaker 1: trying to get this thing off of the calf because
- 8:57Speaker 1: they're livestock. That was their livelihood, and you know, these
- 9:01Speaker 1: are rugged people instead of trying to fight to save
- 9:03Speaker 1: their property, to save their cows, and the wolf is
- 9:07Speaker 1: just totally unaffected. It's not trying to attack Terry or
- 9:10Speaker 1: his son that are trying to get rid of it.
- 9:12Speaker 2: The wolf is just trying to attack the.
- 9:14Speaker 1: Cow, but it won't let go, and finally it just
- 9:16Speaker 1: kind of gives up on the cap starts kind of retreating.
- 9:19Speaker 1: Terry ends up getting his rifle, a high powered rifle,
- 9:21Speaker 1: and takes a shot at the wolf one more time,
- 9:23Speaker 1: but again it just has no impact on the wolf,
- 9:26Speaker 1: and the wolf just at some point, just as I guess,
- 9:29Speaker 1: board turns around and kind of trots off into the woods.
- 9:33Speaker 1: After they kind of were brought out of that initial
- 9:35Speaker 1: trance that they remember this horrible smell that's like foul,
- 9:39Speaker 1: almost chemical smell that just permeated the whole area after
- 9:43Speaker 1: the wolf was there, Terry and his son they decided
- 9:47Speaker 1: to go track this wolf because now there's this massive
- 9:49Speaker 1: predator that's going to make owning cattle extremely difficult, and
- 9:54Speaker 1: so they would have to go deal with this predator.
- 9:57Speaker 1: And so, instead of retreating into the house, their weapons
- 10:00Speaker 1: and they tracked the wolf that's.
- 10:02Speaker 2: Now jogged off into the forest.
- 10:03Speaker 1: And they make it to an area in the forest
- 10:06Speaker 1: where the ground is very muddy and sodden, and Terry
- 10:10Speaker 1: could easily make out these footprints that just suddenly stop,
- 10:15Speaker 1: and they just couldn't make sense of it. And so
- 10:17Speaker 1: they went back to the house and they told their family, like,
- 10:20Speaker 1: we tracked it into the woods.
- 10:21Speaker 2: There's no blood trail, there's nothing that just walked in
- 10:25Speaker 2: and vanished.
- 10:26Speaker 1: So this is day one of being at this ranch,
- 10:30Speaker 1: and they're all on edge.
- 10:32Speaker 2: Now, the whole family is on edge.
- 10:34Speaker 1: They really don't know what to make of that wolf,
- 10:37Speaker 1: the sheer size of it, the fact that it was
- 10:40Speaker 1: totally unaffected by being shot multiple times. You know, there's
- 10:44Speaker 1: real concern over their own livelihood because they keep cattle
- 10:47Speaker 1: and they're only going to have more that are going
- 10:49Speaker 1: to be out in these pens. And if there are
- 10:51Speaker 1: wolves that are three times the size of the normal
- 10:53Speaker 1: wolfs that are walking around killing cattle, that's a big
- 10:56Speaker 1: problem if you own cattle, and so they're on edge,
- 10:59Speaker 1: and they're all in a way trying almost not to
- 11:03Speaker 1: talk about how crazy and how bizarre that encounter with
- 11:07Speaker 1: the wolf was. They're just like they're treating it like
- 11:09Speaker 1: it's just a normal predator problem, Like.
- 11:11Speaker 2: Man, we got we gotta get those wolves. We gotta
- 11:14Speaker 2: protect our cattle.
- 11:14Speaker 1: But in the back of everybody's minds, they're like, something
- 11:18Speaker 1: very strange is happening here. Gwen, she was having some
- 11:21Speaker 1: other very strange things that were happening to.
- 11:24Speaker 2: Her that she was not tying to the wolf thing.
- 11:29Speaker 1: She was just noticing a couple of distinct things that
- 11:31Speaker 1: were happening to her that made her think that she
- 11:34Speaker 1: actually had a very real, like medical problem that she had,
- 11:37Speaker 1: like you know, true memory issues, because two things happened.
- 11:41Speaker 1: One in that first week, she had gone to the
- 11:44Speaker 1: grocery store, and when she came back, she put the
- 11:46Speaker 1: groceries away, and then she left to go to the
- 11:49Speaker 1: other room, and when she came back, all the groceries were.
- 11:52Speaker 2: Now back in the bags.
- 11:53Speaker 1: So for like twenty minutes, she's just sitting there like
- 11:56Speaker 1: dumbfounded with did I put.
- 11:58Speaker 2: The groceries away? The same day, she goes to take
- 12:01Speaker 2: a shower and she hangs her towel.
- 12:05Speaker 1: In the bathroom like anyone would, and she takes a shower,
- 12:08Speaker 1: and then when she gets out, the towels missing, and
- 12:10Speaker 1: she's like, huh. She gets another towel and she towels off,
- 12:13Speaker 1: and then she finds the towel hanging up in a closet.
- 12:16Speaker 2: On the other side of the house. And so between the.
- 12:18Speaker 1: Groceries and the towel, She's like, is there something wrong
- 12:21Speaker 1: with me?
- 12:21Speaker 2: Am I like having a stroke?
- 12:23Speaker 1: Am I having a medical issue here that I'm like
- 12:27Speaker 1: literally losing my mind? And it wasn't until Terry actually
- 12:32Speaker 1: had a similar experience that she started to wonder if
- 12:37Speaker 1: this had to do with maybe that strangeness with the wolf,
- 12:39Speaker 1: that maybe there's just something odd happening about this property.
- 12:43Speaker 1: And it was Terry. In that first week, he had
- 12:46Speaker 1: been digging holes for a new fence, any of this
- 12:49Speaker 1: big fence digging tool. It was about seventy pounds that
- 12:52Speaker 1: he was using to dig the holes for the fence,
- 12:54Speaker 1: and so he had taken a break to after making
- 12:57Speaker 1: a bunch of posts for this fence, he took a break,
- 13:00Speaker 1: left his fence digging tool. You know, at the last
- 13:02Speaker 1: place he had dug a post and he went into
- 13:05Speaker 1: garb a bike to eat, came back out and his.
- 13:07Speaker 2: Fence diigger is missing.
- 13:09Speaker 1: And initially he just goes into the house and he's
- 13:11Speaker 1: like hey, you know, to his wife, to his kids, like,
- 13:13Speaker 1: did you guys move my fence diigger?
- 13:15Speaker 2: But do you know what happened to it? Like where
- 13:16Speaker 2: is it?
- 13:16Speaker 1: It's not out there, and they're like, no, We've been
- 13:18Speaker 1: in the house the whole time. I have no idea,
- 13:21Speaker 1: And so they couldn't find it. And a week goes
- 13:23Speaker 1: by and he's out patrolling his property looking for wolves
- 13:29Speaker 1: and in the tree, like well away from where he
- 13:33Speaker 1: had been digging the post before. In the tree, his
- 13:37Speaker 1: fence digging tool that's seventy pounds is like seventy feet
- 13:40Speaker 1: in the air.
- 13:41Speaker 2: Strung up in this tree.
- 13:43Speaker 1: So Terry comes back to the house and he tells
- 13:45Speaker 1: his family about the fence digging tool being in the tree.
- 13:48Speaker 1: And that's when Gwen tells Terry about her experiences with
- 13:51Speaker 1: the the grocries going back in the bag and a
- 13:54Speaker 1: towel being moved around the house, and everybody starts to
- 13:57Speaker 1: because everybody in the family starts to really start being scared.
- 14:01Speaker 2: We can't explain what's happening on this property, and we're very.
- 14:04Speaker 1: Isolated, and what's the deal with all these locks on
- 14:08Speaker 1: all the doors. I mean, they're starting to feel really concerned.
- 14:12Speaker 1: Following the fence digging tool being found, Terry started to
- 14:16Speaker 1: notice lights on his property. Initially because this was the
- 14:19Speaker 1: first couple of weeks they're there. He would see lights
- 14:22Speaker 1: way at the far end of his property that looked
- 14:24Speaker 1: like headlights, and he would think, someone must have made
- 14:26Speaker 1: a wrong turn that wound up on my property. I mean,
- 14:29Speaker 1: we're kind of out in the middle of nowhere, and
- 14:31Speaker 1: they'll just leave. And so when he first started seeing
- 14:33Speaker 1: these lights, that's what he assumed.
- 14:35Speaker 2: It was just people making a wrong turn.
- 14:38Speaker 1: But he started to see it so often that he
- 14:40Speaker 1: wondered if people were illegally hunting.
- 14:43Speaker 2: On his property.
- 14:44Speaker 1: And so one night he sees these lights on his
- 14:46Speaker 1: property and he goes out to investigate, and in fact,
- 14:49Speaker 1: he's angry. You know, he's had all these strange things happened.
- 14:51Speaker 1: His family's on edge, you know, and now he's mad
- 14:54Speaker 1: and he's gonna take it out on this person who's
- 14:56Speaker 1: illegally hunting on his property, and he starts charging out
- 15:00Speaker 1: to these lights and he starts getting closer and closer.
- 15:02Speaker 2: He starts to realize it's not making any sound. If
- 15:05Speaker 2: this was like a truck, it's not making any sound.
- 15:08Speaker 1: And we're in an area where I could totally hear
- 15:10Speaker 1: that if it was a vehicle, and he can't hear anything.
- 15:13Speaker 2: And as he gets closer and closer, the.
- 15:15Speaker 1: Lights start retreating from him without making a sound, and
- 15:18Speaker 1: then float up into the sky and disappear, and Terry's like,
- 15:23Speaker 1: what is going on here? The winter rolls around and
- 15:26Speaker 1: it's a particularly brutal winter, and one night he couldn't
- 15:30Speaker 1: account for one of his cows, and so he's out
- 15:32Speaker 1: looking for this one straight cow and he searches his
- 15:36Speaker 1: whole property and there's only one area that he hasn't search,
- 15:38Speaker 1: and it's that forest where that giant wolf had disappeared
- 15:42Speaker 1: after marching in there, and they tracked it in there,
- 15:45Speaker 1: and so he goes in there, and as soon as
- 15:46Speaker 1: he gets to the tree line, he notices there's a
- 15:48Speaker 1: bunch of footprints from what looks like a cow, and
- 15:51Speaker 1: he's relieved because it's probably his. He follows it into
- 15:54Speaker 1: the woods, and much like the wolf that had just
- 15:59Speaker 1: disappeared in that muddy like a sodden area in the forest,
- 16:03Speaker 1: in the same spot, the footprints that appeared to be
- 16:07Speaker 1: this cow had also just disappeared. And then over the
- 16:11Speaker 1: course of the remainder of the winter, that would happen
- 16:13Speaker 1: four more times. He would just the animals would run
- 16:16Speaker 1: away and just disappear without a trace. By the end
- 16:20Speaker 1: of the winter, after all these animals have just mysteriously disappeared.
- 16:23Speaker 2: Terry and his family with Terry.
- 16:26Speaker 1: In particular, has really gone into full paranoia mode. He
- 16:30Speaker 1: at night would just like stalk his own property, like
- 16:33Speaker 1: hiding behind bushes with his weapon and like.
- 16:36Speaker 2: Hope to see what was taking his cattle.
- 16:40Speaker 1: And so one night, as he's you know, doing another
- 16:42Speaker 1: fruitless search around his property, he catches out of his
- 16:45Speaker 1: periphery what looks like a kind of mass of something
- 16:48Speaker 1: moving around in the trees near his property. And at
- 16:51Speaker 1: this point he was kind of obscured by some some
- 16:54Speaker 1: shrubs and some plants, and so.
- 16:57Speaker 2: He kind of crouched down and looked out at.
- 16:59Speaker 1: The tree line and he sees in the tree line
- 17:02Speaker 1: this strange shape kind of moving about inside of the trees,
- 17:07Speaker 1: and he would describe the mass as looking almost like
- 17:10Speaker 1: a stealth fighter jet, but really small, and it was
- 17:13Speaker 1: making no sound, and it was hovering about twenty feet
- 17:16Speaker 1: off the ground, and he's crouched down, not making a sound,
- 17:19Speaker 1: watching it, and it's just kind of like moving around
- 17:22Speaker 1: the tree line, and it has these lights that are
- 17:25Speaker 1: it looks to be kind of scanning the ground, and
- 17:28Speaker 1: it's just kind of moving around. It's shining these lights,
- 17:31Speaker 1: these multicolored lights in the ground. And Terry moves the
- 17:35Speaker 1: tiny bit to get a better angle on this thing,
- 17:38Speaker 1: and he makes the tiniest of noises against the brush,
- 17:41Speaker 1: just like a tiny, little, barely audible sound, and this
- 17:45Speaker 1: mass that's pretty far away, the lights.
- 17:48Speaker 2: Immediately turn off and it angles itself so it's facing
- 17:51Speaker 2: directly at Terry, and Terry can feel it right away that.
- 17:54Speaker 1: It's heard this tiny little sound he's made, and now
- 17:57Speaker 1: it's staring directly at Terry, and Terry's like terrified, and
- 18:01Speaker 1: he's looking at this thing wondering like, oh my God,
- 18:03Speaker 1: like is it going to come take me?
- 18:05Speaker 2: Like what is this?
- 18:06Speaker 1: Is this the thing that's been taking my livestock? And
- 18:08Speaker 1: he's terrified and he's staring at it and it just
- 18:11Speaker 1: flies away. By the spring of nineteen ninety five, things
- 18:15Speaker 1: have gotten really, really bad for Terry.
- 18:18Speaker 2: And his family.
- 18:18Speaker 1: Now not only are they losing livestock inexplicably, but they're
- 18:23Speaker 1: showing up. The actual cows themselves are showing up back
- 18:27Speaker 1: on their property, you know, hours or days later, just
- 18:30Speaker 1: kind of in random.
- 18:31Speaker 2: Locations in the property.
- 18:32Speaker 1: And they look like they've had surgery done, like precision cuts,
- 18:36Speaker 1: and pieces of them are missing. And in addition, some
- 18:40Speaker 1: very strange things are happening at the house.
- 18:43Speaker 2: At night, they would see these these entities walking around
- 18:48Speaker 2: their property.
- 18:48Speaker 1: These humanoid they described them as having no expression, just
- 18:52Speaker 1: walking around their property. And sometimes they would walk right
- 18:56Speaker 1: up to the glass, put their hands in the glass
- 18:58Speaker 1: and look in, but there was no face. And like
- 19:00Speaker 1: Terry and his family, they had blinds down and they
- 19:03Speaker 1: would use the dead bolts on every single door and window.
- 19:07Speaker 1: But they could hear them rapping at the glass, and
- 19:09Speaker 1: they could hear them communicating in a language they didn't understand,
- 19:13Speaker 1: right outside of their house. And this became so regular
- 19:16Speaker 1: that it was almost impossible to sleep. Terry's kids started
- 19:20Speaker 1: performing very poorly in school, because they weren't sleeping. Terry's wife, Gwen,
- 19:25Speaker 1: she lost her job at the bank because she wasn't sleeping,
- 19:28Speaker 1: and she was like delusional. They were all just at
- 19:31Speaker 1: an absolute breaking point. Terry is now feeling totally disheartened.
- 19:35Speaker 1: One night, he's sitting on his porch with his rifle
- 19:37Speaker 1: and he notices out on the horizon a new phenomenon.
- 19:42Speaker 1: He was used to seeing the lights on his property
- 19:45Speaker 1: that would be off in the distance that would disappear,
- 19:47Speaker 1: and he had previously seen that kind of like fighter
- 19:50Speaker 1: jet thing that was scanning the area. Like those are
- 19:53Speaker 1: two types of lights he would see. But there was
- 19:55Speaker 1: a new light he saw as he's sitting on his porch.
- 19:57Speaker 1: It was almost like this orange orb that appeared off
- 20:01Speaker 1: in the distance. Since he had his rifle with a
- 20:03Speaker 1: high powered scope on it, he just lifts up this
- 20:05Speaker 1: rifle and he looks through his high powered scope and
- 20:08Speaker 1: he zooms in all the way and he can see
- 20:11Speaker 1: that this orb. He describes it as as a portal
- 20:14Speaker 1: that as he's looking at it, it has.
- 20:16Speaker 2: Almost like an oval shape to it.
- 20:17Speaker 1: And even though it was nighttime, in the middle of
- 20:20Speaker 1: the orange orb is this blue sky. It's as if
- 20:24Speaker 1: he's looking through a portal into another world where it's
- 20:27Speaker 1: broad daylight and there's a sky, and he doesn't know
- 20:30Speaker 1: what to make of it, but he can see that
- 20:32Speaker 1: a black figure is crawling out of this portal into
- 20:38Speaker 1: his property, and it looks just like the black entities
- 20:42Speaker 1: that were basically walking around his property at night. In
- 20:44Speaker 1: addition to these figures that are crawling like imagine that
- 20:49Speaker 1: scene from The Ring where the girl crawls out of
- 20:52Speaker 1: the well. That they're crawling out of this portal into
- 20:55Speaker 1: his property and then scurrying away into the tree line.
- 20:57Speaker 1: And he sees weird craft as well into his property
- 21:01Speaker 1: through this portal, and then.
- 21:02Speaker 2: The portal shuts and disappears.
- 21:04Speaker 1: Following this night with the orange portal, Terry started to
- 21:08Speaker 1: notice blue orbs that he and his family would say
- 21:12Speaker 1: were the worst and most terrifying thing of all of
- 21:15Speaker 1: the things they experienced. And considering they had tall, featureless
- 21:19Speaker 1: black humanoids speering in their windows and rapping on their windows,
- 21:24Speaker 1: that's saying something okay, So blue orb started showing up
- 21:27Speaker 1: on their property, and the way they described it Terry
- 21:31Speaker 1: and his family was, whenever the orb came near you,
- 21:34Speaker 1: it gave.
- 21:35Speaker 2: You this extreme sense of anxiety.
- 21:37Speaker 1: It was almost like it was emitting this feeling that
- 21:41Speaker 1: you automatically got where suddenly you were unbelievably anxious and
- 21:44Speaker 1: terrified of the blue orb, and then as soon as
- 21:47Speaker 1: it left you would you not be anxious anymore. And
- 21:50Speaker 1: so one night he's sitting on his porch like he
- 21:53Speaker 1: had begun doing, and he sees this orb show up
- 21:56Speaker 1: on his property and his three dogs are sitting with
- 21:59Speaker 1: him that the orb, and they start growling and barking,
- 22:02Speaker 1: and so he lets his dogs go, thinking that maybe
- 22:04Speaker 1: they can scare this thing off. And the dogs take
- 22:07Speaker 1: off running towards this blue orb and they chase it,
- 22:10Speaker 1: and you can see the orb. Terry can see the
- 22:12Speaker 1: orb that starts to kind of retreat, and he's thinking, oh,
- 22:15Speaker 1: my goodness, I finally won something. My attack dogs are
- 22:19Speaker 1: gonna scare this orb away. And they chase off into
- 22:22Speaker 1: the woods, and he sees this thing, the blue orb,
- 22:24Speaker 1: retreat into the woods. And then when he's thinking again
- 22:27Speaker 1: that finally a little victory for us, he hears his
- 22:30Speaker 1: dogs yelping, and he's too terrified to go check it out,
- 22:35Speaker 1: and so he ends up going inside and locking the doors,
- 22:38Speaker 1: locking the windows.
- 22:39Speaker 2: Like they had been and just kind of retreating.
- 22:41Speaker 1: So the next day, when the dogs hadn't returned, Terry
- 22:44Speaker 1: and his son they go out looking for the dogs
- 22:46Speaker 1: in the forest, and when they get out there, they
- 22:48Speaker 1: get to a clearing and they find three stacks of
- 22:52Speaker 1: ashes in like little burned out circles, as if there
- 22:55Speaker 1: had been a fire previously in these three little spots.
- 22:58Speaker 1: And it turned out it was the ash of his
- 23:00Speaker 1: three dogs that had gone into the woods.
- 23:02Speaker 2: They had just been vaporized.
- 23:03Speaker 1: Terry decides that it's time to leave and he wants
- 23:07Speaker 1: to sell the ranch, and so he puts the property
- 23:10Speaker 1: up for sale and goes to a local news outlet
- 23:14Speaker 1: and he tells them about what's happening on his property.
- 23:17Speaker 2: And as fate would have.
- 23:19Speaker 1: It, a billionaire by the name of Robert Bigelow who
- 23:24Speaker 1: had invested millions of dollars in standing up this scientific
- 23:28Speaker 1: research team, this all star team of PhDs specifically to
- 23:33Speaker 1: research what he described as high strangeness, which really is
- 23:36Speaker 1: just paranormal. Basically, he was obsessed with the paranormal and
- 23:40Speaker 1: wanted to investigate the paranormal, and he had actually seen
- 23:44Speaker 1: that fairly obscure story when he saw that it was.
- 23:47Speaker 2: Up for sale.
- 23:48Speaker 1: Robert Bigelow, the billionaire, saw this great opportunity to buy
- 23:52Speaker 1: the piece of property and actually make it the headquarters
- 23:55Speaker 1: of his own scientific research team, not only to investigate
- 23:59Speaker 1: what was happening on Skinwalker Ranch, but use it as
- 24:02Speaker 1: kind of a hub to do other scientific research. So
- 24:05Speaker 1: he purchases the ranch, and Terry, actually, even though he
- 24:10Speaker 1: did not want to spend any time at the ranch,
- 24:12Speaker 1: on some level, wanted to know what their research was
- 24:15Speaker 1: going to show, because he was very curious, like, what
- 24:18Speaker 1: is going on at this ranch that's been plaguing my family.
- 24:21Speaker 1: So he offers to stay on as kind of like
- 24:23Speaker 1: the ranch manager. Because you know, Robert Bigelow and his
- 24:26Speaker 1: team are a bunch of scientists and business people. They
- 24:29Speaker 1: don't have any experience on the ranch, and so they're
- 24:31Speaker 1: happy to keep him. So Terry is still connected to
- 24:34Speaker 1: the ranch, but at this point he sold it to
- 24:35Speaker 1: Robert Bigelow. So Robert Bigelow's scientific team was called the
- 24:39Speaker 1: National Institute for Discovery Science or KNIDS and IDs NIDS
- 24:44Speaker 1: for short, and Bigelow had actually built the team before
- 24:48Speaker 1: purchasing Skinwalker Ranch, and what he went out and did
- 24:52Speaker 1: is he recruited some of the most incredible scientists and
- 24:55Speaker 1: PhDs he could possibly recruit. But he didn't want people
- 24:59Speaker 1: that were interested in the paranormal. He wanted people that
- 25:02Speaker 1: were inherently skeptical, so that if he was ever able
- 25:07Speaker 1: to kind of prove the existence of high strangeness, that
- 25:11Speaker 1: he would have credibility in doing that. And so he
- 25:13Speaker 1: went out and found these incredibly skeptical, incredibly smart scientists
- 25:17Speaker 1: and PhDs. And so they move into Skinwalker Ranch and
- 25:21Speaker 1: the first thing they do is they need to start
- 25:23Speaker 1: doing testing to make sure that this whole all the
- 25:27Speaker 1: stories about Skinwalker Ranch coming from Terry and his family
- 25:31Speaker 1: were not just some grand illusion by the family that
- 25:35Speaker 1: you know, they could have just made it up. And
- 25:37Speaker 1: so they get in there and they start running these tests.
- 25:40Speaker 1: So that first year, as they're running these tests, which
- 25:42Speaker 1: are largely things like, Okay, let's check the environment and
- 25:45Speaker 1: see if there aren't any you know, plants that are
- 25:48Speaker 1: giving off spores that could be hallucinogenic that they're breathing in.
- 25:51Speaker 1: Let's check their water supply and make sure there wasn't
- 25:54Speaker 1: something happening in their water supply. Let's do psychological assessments
- 25:57Speaker 1: of the family, let's ask the neighbors, Let's do all
- 26:00Speaker 1: of our diligence to make sure it's not something environmental
- 26:02Speaker 1: or psychological. And over that first year while they're doing
- 26:06Speaker 1: this research, there isn't much activity at the ranch, save
- 26:10Speaker 1: a couple of instances where there were some strange lights.
- 26:13Speaker 1: So that first year is fairly uneventful. But what's important
- 26:16Speaker 1: is that the NIDS researchers come to a conclusion that
- 26:20Speaker 1: this did not seem like a hallucination. This did not
- 26:23Speaker 1: seem like a something coming from a plant or water supply.
- 26:28Speaker 1: This seemed like Terry and his family were really experiencing
- 26:32Speaker 1: something odd.
- 26:33Speaker 2: They just didn't know what it was.
- 26:35Speaker 1: One day, Terry and actually Gwen, who was helping him,
- 26:38Speaker 1: were tagging some of the new calves, the new cows
- 26:41Speaker 1: that have been born, putting these little tags in their ears,
- 26:44Speaker 1: and so Gwen was there helping, and so Terry and
- 26:47Speaker 1: Gwen they tagged this new calf, put a yellow tag
- 26:50Speaker 1: in its ear, and they move on and they're tagging
- 26:53Speaker 1: other animals, and so for about forty minutes, their eyes
- 26:56Speaker 1: and their attention are not focused on this one calf
- 27:00Speaker 1: or that one area of the ranch they're tagging other animals,
- 27:03Speaker 1: and then their dog that was with them starts growling
- 27:07Speaker 1: and reacting in the direction of where this calf had been,
- 27:10Speaker 1: and so Terry and Gwen turn around and they look,
- 27:13Speaker 1: and they don't see anything, and they start walking over.
- 27:16Speaker 1: They find the calf that they had tagged about forty
- 27:18Speaker 1: minutes ago has been basically surgically dissected in all this
- 27:22Speaker 1: left of its legs and its head, and.
- 27:24Speaker 2: In addition, the ear where that tag.
- 27:27Speaker 1: Was had been removed, and so they immediately call over
- 27:31Speaker 1: the KNIDS researchers. So the NIDS veterinarian comes over and
- 27:34Speaker 1: looks at the scene and just can't make sense of
- 27:36Speaker 1: it because the incisions on the calf were so well
- 27:42Speaker 1: done that it looked like someone with real surgical expertise
- 27:46Speaker 1: had done this on an operating table. There was no
- 27:50Speaker 1: sign that this was done by a predator, and there
- 27:53Speaker 1: was no blood anywhere. So this prompts a massive search
- 27:56Speaker 1: of the property because in many ways, this is what
- 28:00Speaker 1: the KNIDS researchers are looking for, are real occurrences of
- 28:05Speaker 1: something that is highly strange that they can go investigate.
- 28:09Speaker 1: And so all of the researchers and everybody there begins
- 28:13Speaker 1: searching the property for whoever was responsible for this dissection
- 28:18Speaker 1: of the cow. And they start searching the property and
- 28:22Speaker 1: the dogs. They had all these guard dogs that were
- 28:25Speaker 1: kept at each of these observation posts that they had
- 28:28Speaker 1: set up around the ranch.
- 28:29Speaker 2: As soon as the NIDS team had moved in, they
- 28:31Speaker 2: were all looking in.
- 28:32Speaker 1: The same direction, all four of these four observation posts,
- 28:35Speaker 1: and they're all cowering in the back of their cages,
- 28:38Speaker 1: all looking in the same direction. And so they start
- 28:40Speaker 1: making their way towards the tree line where all these
- 28:43Speaker 1: dogs are looking, and they stop short when Terry says,
- 28:46Speaker 1: I see something in the tree. So they stop their
- 28:48Speaker 1: car and they're looking, and in the tree is this
- 28:51Speaker 1: massive wolf.
- 28:53Speaker 2: It's like wolf like.
- 28:54Speaker 1: Humanoid that's basically perched on a tree limb. And Terry
- 28:58Speaker 1: takes out his rifle and at the creature up in
- 29:02Speaker 1: the tree, this huge creature, and everybody sees it. All
- 29:04Speaker 1: the NIDS researchers are looking at this creature and they're like,
- 29:07Speaker 1: oh my god, what is that. Terry starts firing at
- 29:10Speaker 1: this thing and it just disappears into the woods, and
- 29:14Speaker 1: so the team charges into the woods.
- 29:15Speaker 2: They fan out and they.
- 29:17Speaker 1: Pick up a couple of tracks of this huge thing
- 29:19Speaker 1: that has like this massive footprint with these huge claws,
- 29:23Speaker 1: but much like the wolf that had disappeared and the
- 29:26Speaker 1: cattle that had suddenly disappeared. When they went into the woods,
- 29:29Speaker 1: they couldn't find any traces of this thing. But they
- 29:32Speaker 1: did smell this horrible stench that Terry remembered smelling. It
- 29:37Speaker 1: stuck with him that first day when that large wolf
- 29:40Speaker 1: had come over. On the very first day they were
- 29:43Speaker 1: moving in, it was that same smell. But they couldn't
- 29:45Speaker 1: find this huge animal. So dumbfounded, the NIDS researchers just
- 29:48Speaker 1: go back to the property and no one can make
- 29:50Speaker 1: sense of it.
- 29:51Speaker 2: And you know, they have the footprint and.
- 29:53Speaker 1: They have their own eyewitness testimony, but like they couldn't
- 29:56Speaker 1: make sense of how something that.
- 29:57Speaker 2: Big could just get away.
- 30:00Speaker 1: And so over the following month they're like searching the
- 30:03Speaker 1: property and they're looking for any more signs of this
- 30:06Speaker 1: huge creature or anything. The only thing they noticed is
- 30:10Speaker 1: that the guard dogs consistently stayed in their kennels and
- 30:14Speaker 1: did not want to come out. They were acting like
- 30:16Speaker 1: they were kind of being hunted, and they were very
- 30:19Speaker 1: kind of they were cowering quite a bit, and they
- 30:20Speaker 1: were scared to go out in the open, but they
- 30:22Speaker 1: couldn't find anything. So it was around this time that
- 30:26Speaker 1: Terry and Gwen are kind of back to doing work
- 30:29Speaker 1: around the ranch, and one day they're driving off to
- 30:32Speaker 1: one section of the ranch and they passed by the
- 30:36Speaker 1: corral where four of their prized bulls were.
- 30:39Speaker 2: These are very expensive animals that.
- 30:41Speaker 1: Are all in this enclosure, and so they drive past
- 30:44Speaker 1: and they take a mental note that they're seeing these
- 30:46Speaker 1: bulls in this enclosure.
- 30:47Speaker 2: And they drive off to the other side of.
- 30:49Speaker 1: The ranch where they're doing some work, you know, tagging
- 30:52Speaker 1: animals and you know, building fences, whatever it is they
- 30:55Speaker 1: were doing. But when they come back and they round
- 30:57Speaker 1: a corner where they're first able to see that corral
- 31:01Speaker 1: of bulls again, they are like, where are they? Because
- 31:04Speaker 1: the bulls were not in their enclosure and they weren't anywhere,
- 31:07Speaker 1: and so they're panicked because these are very expensive animals,
- 31:11Speaker 1: and they run over and Terry sees that the gates
- 31:13Speaker 1: to the corral are still.
- 31:16Speaker 2: Locked, but there's no bulls in there. There's no sign
- 31:18Speaker 2: of a struggle or anything.
- 31:20Speaker 1: And it just so happens that right next to the
- 31:23Speaker 1: corral was this fairly small trailer that hadn't been used
- 31:27Speaker 1: in years. In fact, it was literally wired shut. It
- 31:30Speaker 1: was just sitting there and Terry just for whatever reason,
- 31:34Speaker 1: runs over and looks in one of the windows, and
- 31:37Speaker 1: inside of this tiny enclosure are these four bulls, completely calm,
- 31:43Speaker 1: all crammed into this tiny trailer. They could barely fit.
- 31:46Speaker 1: They're not fighting with each other or anything. They're just
- 31:48Speaker 1: calmly sitting there as if they're in some kind of
- 31:50Speaker 1: a trance.
- 31:51Speaker 2: And Terry yells to.
- 31:54Speaker 1: Gwen like, hey, they're over here, they're right here, and
- 31:57Speaker 1: it startles the bulls out of their trance. They start
- 32:00Speaker 1: panicking and kicking, and they end up getting them out
- 32:04Speaker 1: of this enclosure, and it takes them hours to finally
- 32:06Speaker 1: round them up and get them back in the corral,
- 32:08Speaker 1: but neither unharmed. But it is almost impossible to get
- 32:13Speaker 1: even one bowl into that smaller than enclosure. It would
- 32:17Speaker 1: take hours hours to maybe be successful at doing that.
- 32:21Speaker 1: To get four bulls into that enclosure was pretty much impossible.
- 32:26Speaker 1: And to do it when they basically were calm after
- 32:29Speaker 1: they were in there, it's also somewhat impossible.
- 32:32Speaker 2: And it was.
- 32:33Speaker 1: Important to note that Terry saw when he looked in
- 32:36Speaker 1: the window that the only entrance to that trailer was
- 32:40Speaker 1: wired shut still it had not been undone. In fact,
- 32:43Speaker 1: the cobwebs at the corner where the opening basically formed
- 32:47Speaker 1: with the sides of the trailer, they were still intact,
- 32:50Speaker 1: like it had not opened. And it made no sense
- 32:53Speaker 1: how those bulls got in there, And so the KNIDS
- 32:55Speaker 1: researchers come over and they can't make sense.
- 32:58Speaker 2: Of it either.
- 33:00Speaker 1: Of their investigation, the KNIDS researchers found that the bars
- 33:04Speaker 1: of the corral that held the bulls, a section of
- 33:06Speaker 1: it had been highly magnetized, And so while they're doing
- 33:10Speaker 1: this research trying to figure out if magnetic fields has
- 33:13Speaker 1: anything to do with the strange occurrences at the ranch,
- 33:16Speaker 1: two of the NIDS researchers were on the outskirts of
- 33:19Speaker 1: the property using their compass to look for magnetic fields,
- 33:23Speaker 1: and they started smelling. They both reported smelling that horrible,
- 33:27Speaker 1: metallic like rotting smell that other people had reported smelling
- 33:31Speaker 1: anytime they saw that large wolf creature. And when they
- 33:35Speaker 1: started smelling it, their compass started to flitter and then
- 33:38Speaker 1: pointed away from north towards wherever the smell was, and
- 33:42Speaker 1: they remember thinking that they felt like they were being watched.
- 33:45Speaker 1: And it went on for a few moments, and their
- 33:46Speaker 1: compass didn't waiver. It was aimed in the direction of
- 33:49Speaker 1: the smell, and they're both on opposite sides pointing in
- 33:51Speaker 1: the same direction. And then at some point it just
- 33:55Speaker 1: the smell stops, and they stopped feeling anxious, and the
- 33:57Speaker 1: north arrows.
- 33:58Speaker 2: Go back to the way they should have been.
- 34:00Speaker 1: And then one of the most terrifying of all of
- 34:02Speaker 1: the paranormal occurrences that happened at Skinwalker Ranch happened at
- 34:07Speaker 1: the very end of nineteen ninety seven. Two NIDS researchers
- 34:10Speaker 1: were up on a ridge line overlooking the homestead.
- 34:15Speaker 2: Every night.
- 34:15Speaker 1: It became commonplace to basically position NIDS researchers all over
- 34:19Speaker 1: the property to basically be on the lookout for weird
- 34:21Speaker 1: things that are happening.
- 34:23Speaker 2: And these two researchers.
- 34:24Speaker 1: Are up on this ridge kind of obscured and hidden,
- 34:27Speaker 1: and they see this orange orb take shape right near
- 34:30Speaker 1: the homestead. And one of them had an infrared had
- 34:33Speaker 1: infrared goggles, and so he looks down at the orb
- 34:38Speaker 1: and he can clearly make out that it's this oval
- 34:40Speaker 1: shaped opening that sounded an awful lot like what Terry
- 34:44Speaker 1: had seen on his porch when he saw that humanoid
- 34:47Speaker 1: creature crawling out of the portal into his property. While
- 34:51Speaker 1: these two researchers are looking at this portal and they
- 34:55Speaker 1: see the same thing.
- 34:56Speaker 2: They see this black.
- 34:57Speaker 1: Human like creature crawling out out of this orange portal
- 35:02Speaker 1: onto the ground, and then it starts running up the
- 35:05Speaker 1: hill towards them, and they're like frozen with fear. They
- 35:08Speaker 1: start smelling that horrible, rotting metallic smell as this big
- 35:12Speaker 1: human like creature bounds up the mountain, and they can
- 35:16Speaker 1: hear the shale under its feet as it runs up,
- 35:18Speaker 1: and it goes right past them, about thirty feet away
- 35:21Speaker 1: from them. They're looking at it and it just barrels
- 35:23Speaker 1: past them at a full sprint up into the mountain side.
- 35:26Speaker 2: The following year, in nineteen ninety eight, the.
- 35:28Speaker 1: Activity on the ranch declined significantly. All they have was
- 35:33Speaker 1: the occasional strange lights here in the air, but for
- 35:36Speaker 1: the most part it was done, and in fact, even
- 35:38Speaker 1: the Knids remained on the property. By two thousand and four,
- 35:43Speaker 1: the research just wasn't amounting to anything, so they pulled
- 35:46Speaker 1: the plug on the operation. They did have footage of
- 35:49Speaker 1: a number of the lights that were seen, but again,
- 35:52Speaker 1: no one's going to take a picture of some random lights.
- 35:54Speaker 2: And say, oh, there you go proof. You know, they
- 35:56Speaker 2: demonstrated that there.
- 35:57Speaker 1: Were you know, magnetic fields, and they have images of
- 36:00Speaker 1: these calves that would reappear after looking like they had
- 36:03Speaker 1: surgery done to them.
- 36:05Speaker 2: They had hundreds of eyewitness reports.
- 36:07Speaker 1: You know, they have all this information, but none of
- 36:10Speaker 1: it was really definitive proof, which was very frustrating to
- 36:14Speaker 1: Robert Bigelow, to Terry and his family, and the way
- 36:17Speaker 1: they described it is they felt like they were dealing
- 36:20Speaker 1: with an entity or a group of entities that were
- 36:24Speaker 1: just consistently one step ahead of them. That they could
- 36:28Speaker 1: catch glimpses of what they were doing, but it was
- 36:30Speaker 1: never enough to really understand what was happening.
- 36:32Speaker 2: They never felt like they were in control.
- 36:34Speaker 1: It was always clear that this entity or these entities
- 36:37Speaker 1: were in control of the situation, and they never were
- 36:41Speaker 1: in a good position to really record hard data or
- 36:43Speaker 1: get good footage.
- 36:45Speaker 2: Not to mention, this is nineteen ninety eight, this is
- 36:47Speaker 2: the the late nineties.
- 36:48Speaker 1: No one just had like, you know, an iPhone they
- 36:50Speaker 1: can pull out and snap pictures you had like real cameras,
- 36:53Speaker 1: and so the best they could do was some pictures
- 36:55Speaker 1: of light and some of the animals that had been mulated.
- 36:58Speaker 1: There's been numerous books put together by some of the
- 37:00Speaker 1: people that were a part of this NINS research team,
- 37:03Speaker 1: and to this day they believed that what they saw
- 37:05Speaker 1: was a result of some paranormal activity, and to this day,
- 37:09Speaker 1: many people believe that this is one of the most
- 37:12Speaker 1: credible instances of paranormal activity occurring.
- 37:16Speaker 2: So I'd love to hear what.
- 37:17Speaker 1: You think in the comments, whether you think this is
- 37:19Speaker 1: a total fact or a total hoax, or somewhere in
- 37:21Speaker 1: the middle. I'd love to hear about it in the comments.
- 37:24Speaker 1: If you want to get in touch with me, you
- 37:25Speaker 1: can message me on Instagram. My handle is John Balin
- 37:28Speaker 1: four one six. Also I post quite a bit on TikTok.
- 37:31Speaker 1: My handle is mister Balin. And that's going to do it.
- 37:33Speaker 2: Guys. I hope you got something out of this, and
- 37:35Speaker 2: until next time, that's going to do it. See it