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Seth Jones' fresh start: Surging Avs, bye bye Big Rig and a Snow White remake no one wanted. · NHL Unscripted with Virk and Demers

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  Speaker 1: NHL Unscripted is a production of the NHL and iHeart
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  Speaker 1: Podcasts episode seventeen. Coming at You an NHL Unscripted Give
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  Speaker 1: it to Us, JD. He Yeah, we got thumb nails.
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  Speaker 1: Seth Jones is our special guest today. What a story
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  Speaker 1: for Jones. He goes from Chicago to Florida now fighting
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  Speaker 1: to perhaps with a Stanley Cup of the Panthers team.
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  Speaker 1: He's got great stories, but his journey including even talking
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  Speaker 1: all sports and now of course his father played in
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  Speaker 1: the NBA. You can talk with Luca, donta trade You're
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  Speaker 1: gonna like Seth Jones a fellow defense with JD talking
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  Speaker 1: about the game. We got lots of good stuff today. Man,
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  Speaker 1: this is the Avalanche right now are rolling. The Blues
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  Speaker 1: are rolling right now, Big rig is getting ready to
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  Speaker 1: say goodbye. There's lots right not coming from the world
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  Speaker 1: of hockey. And plus the little Selle filling sixty. As
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  Speaker 1: George Foreman passes away, I'll tell you strue about being
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  Speaker 1: in the movie Big George Forman plush tails from the road,
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for me. Game a home game here Amazon
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  Speaker 1: Prime Monday Night Hockey is we had the Canucks and
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  Speaker 1: the Devil's a game which Ged was watching on ESPN.
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  Speaker 1: Shout out to Steve Levi and PK. Soo. Man saw
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  Speaker 1: them at the rink. Let's talk, Canucks, heard the.
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  Speaker 2: Call, heard the call. He heard PK's call.
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  Speaker 1: Canucks. Dude up against it. Talking to Rick Talk ahead
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  Speaker 1: of time. You know, they were eight points up on
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  Speaker 1: the Blues coming out of four nations for a walker spot,
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  Speaker 1: and now going into that game, we're five points back.
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  Speaker 1: And talking to Talk as he was telling us, he's like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, there has to be that sense of urgency.
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  Speaker 1: This truly is a must win game. And watching that game, Ged,
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  Speaker 1: Canucks are down. He said, oh my god, and somehow
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  Speaker 1: they pulled out. They win the game in the shootout.
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  Speaker 1: And even though he didn't have a point, every time
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  Speaker 1: Quen he uses on the ice, he's mesmerizing. Number forty
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  Speaker 1: three is so much fun to watch. You as a
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  Speaker 1: defenseman can speak to this. The fact he's a workhorse,
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  Speaker 1: plays twenty five and a half minutes a night, which
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  Speaker 1: is the most in the NHL of any defenseman. He
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  Speaker 1: leads his team in every major category with the exemption
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  Speaker 1: of goals, in which he is fourth, but assist points
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  Speaker 1: minutes twenty two more with any other player on his team.
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  Speaker 1: Could you argue Ken Hughes is as viable to his
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  Speaker 1: team as anyone in the NHL?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, of course.
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  Speaker 3: I mean he if you're defining the heart and you're
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  Speaker 3: defining exactly what it means to win that he is
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  Speaker 3: up in that category. I don't know if he'll beat
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  Speaker 3: and Nathan McKinnon this year or potentially Kale mccarr, but
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  Speaker 3: there's just levels to the NHL, and there's you know,
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  Speaker 3: we talk about like the comparison between Austin Matthews and
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  Speaker 3: to Connor McDavid and Nathan McKinnon were like, he's an
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  Speaker 3: elite player, but there is like just a small class
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  Speaker 3: that's above everybody. And I kind of put Connor, I
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  Speaker 3: put Nathan McKinnon, I put Cale McCart and I would
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  Speaker 3: put Quinn Hughes in that category because he is so
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  Speaker 3: you said, mesmerizing. It's a perfect word to sum him up.
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  Speaker 3: Every time he touches the puck. It's like he could
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  Speaker 3: take an end to end every shift if he wanted to.
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  Speaker 3: It's just I think he it's almost like he tries
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  Speaker 3: to drag his teammates into it and help him. But
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  Speaker 3: like especially the not only that last game against the Devil,
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  Speaker 3: but the Rangers game before when he was just bringing
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  Speaker 3: it up the ice, trying to get the team back
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  Speaker 3: into the game, and he's so hard to get a
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  Speaker 3: beat on. He's it seems like he might have been
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  Speaker 3: I think he looked better the last two games, but
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  Speaker 3: playing through an injury as well, and he just doesn't
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  Speaker 3: get enough credit for what he does for this team.
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  Speaker 3: And the fact that there is even rumors that they
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  Speaker 3: weren't going to resign him and potentially trade him is
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  Speaker 3: some of the most comical shit I've heard in my life.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, it's I don't know if they have the
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  Speaker 3: jews to make it. I don't think they do. They're battling,
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  Speaker 3: but it's hard to kind of it's gonna take all
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  Speaker 3: of Quinn Hughes to be getting three four points a
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  Speaker 3: night for him to catch the Blues right now, because
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  Speaker 3: the Blues are rolling.
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  Speaker 1: Could be a catastrophic loss against the Rangers traffic. Let's
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  Speaker 1: try to get could be a catastrophic loss against the Rangers,
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  Speaker 1: which they lost five to to only twelve shots on
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  Speaker 1: goal but clearly weren't able to come through. Let's bring
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  Speaker 1: in tal who was missing an action. Last week tal
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  Speaker 1: when I watched Quinn Hughes again, the word that comes
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  Speaker 1: to mind is elusiveness and just his level of skating,
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  Speaker 1: Like Jad was saying, he can go and a time.
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  Speaker 1: Can you think, with your rich knowledge of history and
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  Speaker 1: thinking of like great skaters, who's the guy that you
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  Speaker 1: think with Queen Hughes in terms of the elusiveness, who's
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  Speaker 1: a player that you can't go at him because he
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  Speaker 1: goes around you.
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  Speaker 2: Let's see. I want to see if you get it. Tell.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like the best comps are contemporary players, Like
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  Speaker 4: we're not used to seeing guys like this, like mccarr
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  Speaker 4: is now the standard. We never saw a guy like
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  Speaker 4: that before, and now we have Lane Hudson and other
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  Speaker 4: younger guys coming into the league whuld do similar things.
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  Speaker 4: For me, this seems like a more recent phenomenon where
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  Speaker 4: you just let you know your your d man, just.
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  Speaker 2: Carry the play all game long.
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  Speaker 4: I'm JD's looking at me like I should be thinking
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  Speaker 4: of someone, So I'm wondering who that would be.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he's yeah, I was about to give you
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  Speaker 3: that Ah, well done, Avy, I wasn't gonna get that one.
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  Speaker 4: I was trying to go back further, and I'm thinking, like,
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  Speaker 4: who are the talks ten twenty years? Yeah, well Bobby Or,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, we can talk about Bobby Orr. You know,
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  Speaker 4: obviously I didn't think we would go back that far,
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  Speaker 4: but yeah, I know Paul Coffee is you know, that's
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  Speaker 4: the that's kind of what we're seeing.
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  Speaker 2: Although I feel like.
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  Speaker 4: These guys now, you know, Paul Coffee's a little bit
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  Speaker 4: before my time, but I feel like the guys are
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  Speaker 4: seeing now, they're like Jad was saying, they're bringing their
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  Speaker 4: team into it. They're not just going and to end,
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  Speaker 4: you know, rushing back and forth. They're they're slowing down
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  Speaker 4: the play. They're looking for the open man. They're they're creating.
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  Speaker 2: Plays for other guys.
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  Speaker 4: Where I feel like every Bobby Orr or Paul Coffee
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  Speaker 4: replay or highlight we you see was them doing it
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  Speaker 4: all by themselves. These guys are I mean, they're playing
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  Speaker 4: chess and everyone else is playing checkers.
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  Speaker 1: Love that analogy A thought on the Devil's JD because
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  Speaker 1: this was fascinating. Sheldon Keef sot the other the day
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  Speaker 1: he calls it Covid Sevic. I'm still laughing just the
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  Speaker 1: way with d Covi se basically, you know, we have
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  Speaker 1: to have like more urgency. It was it would be
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  Speaker 1: better if he played better, like he just buries him.
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  Speaker 1: So the great Andy Patrillo, who you work with an
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  Speaker 1: HL Coast to Ghost part of our coverage as well.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking to Sheldon Keith the morning Scrub and someone
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  Speaker 1: has to kind of bring it up. So Andy saysn't
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  Speaker 1: it very light hearted?
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  Speaker 2: Men?
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  Speaker 1: I're like, hey, so kind of a fun press conce
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  Speaker 1: the the day. And Sheldon Key's point was, listen, I
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  Speaker 1: just watched him because before I gave that press coss,
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  Speaker 1: I just watched the compari shift in which he was
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  Speaker 1: the main reason the goal was allowed. So it was
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  Speaker 1: a little salty, like, yeah, was it trying to make
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  Speaker 1: a point? Yeah, with the great Steve Coullius, one of
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  Speaker 1: my old colleagues here at NHL Network Radio, just burying
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  Speaker 1: Sheldon Keef.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And his point was this, you can't kill out your stars.
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  Speaker 1: You don't cant out Mitch mar you don't call out
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  Speaker 1: Austin Matthews there with Toronto. You go to the devil's
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  Speaker 1: in you.
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  Speaker 2: Colin coma savage, covid sevag comes so much more, and
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  Speaker 2: you're calling him out.
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  Speaker 1: His point of sention was that, like, that's the guy
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna pick on. Sheldon Keef taken heat for that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't.
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  Speaker 3: You can't arrow dirty laundry, and you can't speak from
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  Speaker 3: a place of emotion, especially as a coach like you
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  Speaker 3: just can't. And it's just it's one of those things
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  Speaker 3: that I just don't think it's in poor taste. I
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  Speaker 3: don't like it, especially if Jonathan Cove said you when
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  Speaker 3: you listen to his comments, he's just answering a question,
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  Speaker 3: being like, hey, yeah, we got to like have a
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  Speaker 3: good mentality. Of course he's not. Of course he's probably
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  Speaker 3: critical of his own game. But you can't do that
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  Speaker 3: because then now Covid Sevig sees it. Now you just
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  Speaker 3: add Field to the fire. And Sheldon keeps kind of
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  Speaker 3: been known in the past. You see him on the bench,
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  Speaker 3: he's very animated. He's always kind of making a face,
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  Speaker 3: he's rolling his eyes if things aren't going right. And
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  Speaker 3: in the media sometimes he'll say a comment and then
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  Speaker 3: it's tough to walk it back, like oh, yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: just watched the game. Well now you're showing me as
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  Speaker 3: a coach that you make a lot of decisions based
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  Speaker 3: on emotions. So when you're behind the bench, what are
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  Speaker 3: you doing with these emotions? And are you letting your
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  Speaker 3: emotions get the best of you?
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  Speaker 1: No question about it. The Devil's lose that game, and
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  Speaker 1: I feel like they're in trouble. They're going to make
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  Speaker 1: the playoffs and all likely the third place on the metro.
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  Speaker 1: But it's amazing if you look at their season. They
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  Speaker 1: got that great start, they have not been the team
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  Speaker 1: since then, and now they're clearly being a little bit
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  Speaker 1: awry as the head of the playoffs. Obviously missing Jack
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  Speaker 1: Hughes hurts. I'm not making excuses, but there's always so
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  Speaker 1: much that Nico, Heastri, Etceter can do. Timo Wyre did
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  Speaker 1: have a couple goals in that game to play well.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Speaking of playing well, Avalanche rolling eleven to
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  Speaker 1: one and won their last thirteen games. Amazon Prime will
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  Speaker 1: be in Denver, by the way on Monday. Cannot wag
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  Speaker 1: flames and ABA hopefully ill got to sit down mccannon
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  Speaker 1: or mccarr will see this is kind of crazy. Do
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  Speaker 1: we look at all the work they've done And you
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  Speaker 1: and I were talking off their and you said, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: good luck. Stop in the aves. As far as the
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  Speaker 1: Stanley Cup this season, the crease right now is Mackenzie Blackwin,
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  Speaker 1: Scott Wedgewood, Martin Nachius, brock Nelson, Charlie Coyle, Jack Drury,
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy v c Ryan lingren Eric Johnson and return. They've
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  Speaker 1: given up much celebrated Miko Ranton and Casey Millstatt, Calvin
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  Speaker 1: de Haan, prospects, cal Ritchie and Nikolai Kavalenko, sam Gerrard
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  Speaker 1: and Josh Manson both coming back from injury, and now
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  Speaker 1: the captain Gabrielle Landiskog has been a regular participant in
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  Speaker 1: practice for the last few days. I could just see
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  Speaker 1: McKennon mccarr and argue that the Avalanche are a favorite,
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  Speaker 1: as you and I have said before. Also Avalanche Stars
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  Speaker 1: are going to be an incredible matchup. Because I know
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  Speaker 1: you're feeling the ass but I might go ahead and
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  Speaker 1: zag and say I'll pick the Stars in that match now,
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  Speaker 1: Andrew the other day's shut out, I love Ranton On,
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  Speaker 1: this team go to the next level. But you're saying nothing
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  Speaker 1: stopping the Avalanche right now. You're and by the way,
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  Speaker 1: Ball Arena, they're unbeaten ten ten in a road by one.
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  Speaker 3: Uh they're just on a different level right now. And
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  Speaker 3: and you know, GM McFarland does not get enough credit.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I think we were all a little bit like,
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  Speaker 3: why are they trade Rand? And I mean he had
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  Speaker 3: a plan and he stuck to it, and me and
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  Speaker 3: Tow were talking before we started recording that I don't
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  Speaker 3: know in recent memory or even where you can go
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  Speaker 3: back to in time of a GM retooling a team
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  Speaker 3: this early in a season and having it work out
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  Speaker 3: the way it's worked out, Like they just kind of
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  Speaker 3: came in first ten games of the season and said, no,
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  Speaker 3: we're good, let's change. Just let's get rolling, all right,
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  Speaker 3: complete rehaul, retool of this team. And look at what
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  Speaker 3: it's done. It's just been They've just exploded. They've just
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  Speaker 3: went to another Martin Nchis has more points than Migo
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  Speaker 3: Rannon right now, Like that's that's crazy coming from everybody.
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  Speaker 3: Was kind of like Marty Nhs doesn't really fit in Carolina.
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  Speaker 3: He has been dynamic, he has been incredible, He has
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  Speaker 3: been everything that they could hope for.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it certainly has been amazing. It's worked out because
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  Speaker 1: you know that trade and to go okay, are the
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  Speaker 1: avalanched giving up. Well, no, like Rantley just realized his
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  Speaker 1: contract isn't gonna work in terms of the cap, he's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be getting one hundred million dollars, which he alus's
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  Speaker 1: now getting from the Dallas Stars. Don't want to get
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  Speaker 1: up there with the Avalanche. But it's interesting, do you
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  Speaker 1: think Landeskog? I mean, is he coming back to the
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  Speaker 1: playoffs or what?
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  Speaker 2: I man, You're not. You're not.
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  Speaker 3: There's no way you're creating a documentary about yourself, selling
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  Speaker 3: it per tal and then having it be released this
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  Speaker 3: season where you're coming back to skate with the team.
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  Speaker 3: I've heard from a couple inside sources that he had
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  Speaker 3: some setbacks, but he's he is trending in a direction
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  Speaker 3: and I foresee him coming back into the playoffs. I think,
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  Speaker 3: I just why would you do it? And I watched
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  Speaker 3: a couple of those practices that they aired. You know
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  Speaker 3: there he looks very good, he looks very fast, he
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  Speaker 3: looks very explosive. And now Tal like we're kind of
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  Speaker 3: talking about this, especially with in terms of rights and
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  Speaker 3: everything like that, this is probably a long process for
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  Speaker 3: him to sell them. So he's already known for a
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  Speaker 3: while that he's coming back, and these are all pre recorded,
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  Speaker 3: so it's kind of like I think it's just there's
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  Speaker 3: a crescendo coming, there's a climax coming, and it's going
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  Speaker 3: to be him playing in the playoffs. And I mean,
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  Speaker 3: we were just talking about it too before, Like, I
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  Speaker 3: don't see a world in which just having Landeskog on
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  Speaker 3: the bench can't benefit your team, even if he's playing
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  Speaker 3: four or five minutes a night and just being physical.
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  Speaker 3: He's a leader, he's he knows what he's doing. He's
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  Speaker 3: a he's a there's guys that can do it. I
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  Speaker 3: know everybody says two years off, there's guys that can't
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  Speaker 3: do it. Like I probably couldn't come back and just
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  Speaker 3: play and be super effective. I could probably be somewhat effective.
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  Speaker 3: But guys like him that have a pedigree, winning pedigree,
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  Speaker 3: they know how to play the game. They're special players.
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  Speaker 3: Like we forget because it's been a while since he's
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  Speaker 3: been back in the league, but he is very good
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  Speaker 3: and he understands how to play the game. He's got
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  Speaker 3: a very high hockey IQ. Plays penalty killed, plays power play,
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  Speaker 3: and I just don't see a world in which he
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  Speaker 3: doesn't come back and doesn't be impactful for this team.
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  Speaker 4: Tell well, yeah, just like you said, even if he's
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  Speaker 4: getting a few minutes a game on the fourth line,
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  Speaker 4: think about the lift that they're getting from having their
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  Speaker 4: captain back and just a guy who plays like Landescog,
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  Speaker 4: so physical, so assertive on the ice, and the last
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  Speaker 4: time he played, he lifted the Stanley Cup. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: it all feels to me like it's ready to culminate
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  Speaker 4: in the playoffs. And you mentioned the doc. I've watched
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  Speaker 4: a bit of it. I mean, there's clearly a media
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  Speaker 4: strategy here from Landiscog and his team, whether it's his agent,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if he has like a media team
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  Speaker 4: that he works with, but yeah, well he clearly does.
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  Speaker 2: On this doc.
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  Speaker 4: But I don't know if they were working on stuff
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  Speaker 4: before this happened. But and I mentioned when we were
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  Speaker 4: talking about it's not like the NHL approached him and said, hey,
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  Speaker 4: are you interested in producing a doc about your rehab
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  Speaker 4: and will produce it with you, Like this was something
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  Speaker 4: that was clearly produced internally. His team got together, you know,
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  Speaker 4: maybe even last summer. Who knows when this all started,
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  Speaker 4: but they got together and said, okay, let's start getting
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  Speaker 4: some footage. Let's start filming the rehab. Let's start sitting
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  Speaker 4: you know, Landeskog down for some interviews and walking us
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  Speaker 4: through the whole process this. There's this clearly a very
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  Speaker 4: specific media strategy in mind, and it's hard to imagine
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  Speaker 4: that they would do that and put all this together
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  Speaker 4: and make the deal with with Turner and Amazon and
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  Speaker 4: make sure that the whole world is seeing this without
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  Speaker 4: an idea that he it culminates with the big finale,
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  Speaker 4: the big third act, you know, the big reveal at
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  Speaker 4: the end where he's back on the ice. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: it's it's it's a great script. Whoever's writing the script
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  Speaker 4: with team Landeskog is doing a pretty good job.
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  Speaker 3: Adam, what do you think, like, why would you, you know,
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  Speaker 3: why would they have this documentary come out if not
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  Speaker 3: for the to what tow's point, beautifully beautifully put point.
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  Speaker 3: He's he's so very charismatic in the words that he
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  Speaker 3: wow and and says.
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  Speaker 1: Bury him earlier and you're giving him his flowers.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, but I like to break him down to
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  Speaker 3: build them up. That's the way we get him, and
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  Speaker 3: that's where we get him. We've we've established our method
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  Speaker 3: add non of how we do it we are hammer
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  Speaker 3: and nails, baby, hammer and nails, right, yeah, one nails, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: hammered to thumbnails. Now, but what do you think? I
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  Speaker 3: don't think you're creating a documentary without you hoping or knowing,
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  Speaker 3: because a lot of this is pre recorded that you're
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  Speaker 3: going to come back one hundred percent.
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  Speaker 1: I mean you're practicing right now in late March of
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  Speaker 1: the playoffs for a few weeks away. I couldn't imagine
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: Planetskuck does not come back it. As Tale said, it
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: feels that script is being written and it could be
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: fasting how this goes again. I'll be there in Denver
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: on Monday. I'll ask him. I'll go wrapup to him. Okay,
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: is lantuskog around like I'm gonna just a few minutes.
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll have Joe Sakic on set as well. Cannot wait,
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: Joe Sakic, ew Sackic. As Bob Cole said back in
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: two thousand and two, all right, let me tell the
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: Saint Louis Blues what a stir this has been. Man
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: Monty fired by the Bruns November nineteenth, It gets hired
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: by the Blues five days later. It's all good, right,
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: He's already assistant there it happens. I'm tired of Boston
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: all good thirteen two and two. Since the four rations,
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: they've now won seven games in a row. That the
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: second Walkard spot in the West. Bruins, by the way,
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: I have lost six in row entering Wednesday's action, they probably
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: gonna miss the playoffs for the first time to twenty sixteen.
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: So good for Monty as he's having the good vibes
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: right now, and for Saint Louis. The notable Blues right now,
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: Jordan Cairou has been great, Dylan Holloway as well, and
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: Robert Thomas. These three right now JD scorching for a
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: Blues team and even a week ago when you looked
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: at it, Sorry, who do you handicap this? I'm like
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: you tossed till a year away. Flames don't have any offense.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: Ave Lott Cadree sick goal last night, a couple of goals.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: They came back and played overtime.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: It was crazy.
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: Got another thirty goal season. Vancouver has discussed bad loss
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: of the time, but the Blues. The Blues are the
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: best schedule. Of their last thirteen games, ten were against
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: non playoff teams, three against the Predators. But a thought
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: on those three guys jd Cairou, Holloway, Thomas leading the way.
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: Well, you look at the youth movement there and these
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: this is gonna be a team that's going to be
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: very good for a long time. Just you know, so
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: much credit to Doug Armstrom going offer shooting, Philip Broberg
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: and Dylan Holloway because we.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: Didn't even mention him. They're going to be around for
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: a long time.
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: Robert Thomas is a very underrated tudred foot player, and
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: Jordan kiro is just so.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: Explosive game breaker. You need those.
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: But it's it's a team that has so much belief
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: and you look at Jim Montgomery. How the hell did
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: they let this guy go from Boston? Just what a
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: miss after miss by Don Sweeney and Bosson. Just a
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: brutal season from a GM I think in all respects
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: like it just sometimes doesn't go your way, to the
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: Marshan trade, to everything, it's just been awful decisions and
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: typically he does the right thing. So this has been
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: a huge miss on his season. But all the more
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: reason and more power to Doug arms from swinging for
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: the fences and this team believes they got a nice
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: mix of veterans on the back end. They have great goaltending,
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: they have a gamer, a proven winner in Jordan Binnington.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: And then you look at that line, they have piss too.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: I like it. They got a little piss.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: They got a couple of piss jugs there. You know
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: Brayden Schen, you got Nathan Walker, you got Tucker on
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: the back end. It's just these guys. Dylan Halways got
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: some bite to him too. But these guys are just
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: playing so well together. They love together. You could see
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: the fun they're having and it's very reminiscent of the
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: twenty nineteen Blues that we thought they.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: Were done in the wall at the right time.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: Second, here they come on there, goddamn horse, let's ride bitch.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Well it's a great story, but I don't know how
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: dangerous they are necessarily because you have this stretch where
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: you go well, because they're playing well. I look at
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: this momentum, the streakiness. But I'm like, oultimately, when I
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: look at the lines of the death of Cil against Winnipeg,
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: I'm not called the Blues to beat the Jets. I
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: would be genuinely surprised. But no, unless how about craps
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: about as he has in the past. I guess. But
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: I'm like certain teams, I go, yeah, they're playing we momentum.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: They can be streaky, they can do something. The Blues
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: I think are a great story. I don't necessarily see
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: them causing chaos. Can playoff time. They're doing great against
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: inferior opposition. I think when the Gold gets tough, I
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: don't I like dangerous.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like dangerous youth. I always think it'll give somebody.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: But here's the thing, let's let's let's put a bow
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: on this one. But Saint Louis keeps winning, Vancouver's scrounging
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: and battling, Minnesota wild faltering a little bit, making me
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: nervous because I think they thought they had a cushion
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: and then all of a sudd sudden, the Blues just
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: go all world and then everybody's chasing. Let's not forget
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Calgary flames too. Like these guys you talked about, Nazam Kadri,
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: what amazing back to back overtime winners. But like the Minnesota,
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: while I gotta be careful here because I know they
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: have a lot of injuries, but they got to get
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: some points. We talked about last week that I find
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: ninety six points is the is kind of the is
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: the cutoff. That's where the playoffs the last wildcard spot
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: is about ninety six points. They're at eighty five right now.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: That's eleven points, about five six wins they're playing of
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: the two of the teams in their last run of
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: games are against non playoff teams. The rest are playoff
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: teams and teams chasing them. It's gonna be tough sledding
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: and this would be an epic collapse.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: But but all people, I hadn't even thought about it.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: You're right, so like, no one's even said this could be.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: I kind of tweeted that. I tweeted the last time.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: I was like, should Minnesota Wild? Should they be worried
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: in the fans? And I got about five six Wild
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: fans being like, yep, we'll.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Get Mark Parrish script. I got to work with them
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: a couple weeks ago. Oh and Perry a great guy.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Loves like to get him fired up.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: No, no question about it, one thought here. Because of course,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: the great chase continues. Ovechkins Curricle eight eighty nine Tuesday
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: against the Jets. Historically against the Jets Slash Thrasters organization.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: He's always had success. He's six back now, breaking Wayne
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Gretzky's all time goals record last game of the season
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: April seventeenth against the Penguins. If Obie breaks the record
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: that night, do you think Crossby would come out for
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: the ceremony as well? Along with Bretzky and Gary Bettman
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: also in the building.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: He's six away and he's got what twelve games? Yeah,
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: I mean for it's gonna go white down the wire.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: I don't know, that's that's whatever he's saying. That's what
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: we're all saying on the network. We're like, that's hard
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: for a good player to do that. Six and twelve,
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: and like we're kind of like, yeah, he's doing it.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: It's done. Uh.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: You know, we were able to, you know, snag the
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: Dylan Stroman interview, and he mentioned it in the interviews.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Like eleven games left to be specific.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Thanks eleven. Sorry.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: We're like, he we hope he gets it this year,
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: but we have a holy two left. I think it'll
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: be next year. I was kind of you know, I
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: think it will, but you know, we're going with the
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: NHL Network April fifth, we're going DC. We're going to
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: d C to do like an NHL now nice and
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: hopefully he's like around three or you know, three or four.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: But uh yeah, I think it's it's amazing. It would
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: be awesome if it's in Pittsburgh. I think we all
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: wanted to be in Pittsburgh against sid you know, Gretzky
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: Betman in there from his office, like his last goalie
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: scored from his office is like that's where I think
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: everybody wants to see that finish. It's just him tickling
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: the goddamn rafters and just blowing it through the net
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: and then just throwing a stick down and doing the
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: the heat stick when you know when he did.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: It back in the day.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: Would be the best selly then take off his helmet,
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: rip his jersey off, get butt naked on the ice
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: and hang on, I'm not doing and give the finger,
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: just say I'm retired Russia Gune and then just lee.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: It would be just the best.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Seth Jones are coming up after this. He's now remember
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: the Florida Panthers pushing towards the Stanley Cup. We'll ask
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: about his career and playing with the Cats. Edyburd along
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: on the ice that's next. Our special guest today on Unscripted.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Drafted fourth o'verroall by the Nashville Petitors in twenty thirteen.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: He is a four time All Star. Part one most
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: significant transactions this season heading into the trade deadline, he
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: was acquired by the defending champion in Florida Panthers. What
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: a pickup he's been for them. And welcome to South Florida,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Seth Jones. Welcome to Unscripted, Seth. Great to see him, man,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us. First and foremost,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: how have you been acclimated so far after making this
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: rather important move here over to Florida.
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's been great so far, and it all happened quick. Obviously,
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: when you get traded in this season, it's a whole
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: lot different than being traded in the off season. There's
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: not much time to really think about it and process it.
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: Right away, you're on a flight. The next day, you're
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: playing one or two days later for a new team
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: with a new system, new players, So just trying to
• 22:06
  Speaker 6: step in. Just play my game right away, whether it's
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: power play, penalty, kill, five on five, just be solid.
• 22:12
  Speaker 7: And I kind of learned the system on the fly.
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: I've been doing a lot of video with the coaches recently,
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: obviously this first couple of weeks, trying to get everything down.
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: But I feel decent right now.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: What's kind of been the best thing and toughest thing
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: mindset wise, because you know, you go from Chicago, you
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: guys are rebuilding and everybody knows the situation there, and
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: then you're going to a Cup contender and it's kind
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: of like, not that the games don't matter in Chicago,
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: but it's a little bit different vibe before the game,
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: and then you come here and it's like your pedal
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: to the metal, Like how was that for you?
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Mindset wise?
• 22:45
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's definitely different.
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: You know, not that we weren't trying to win in Chicago,
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: because we definitely were, but we're it's definitely, i think, organizationally,
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: a different time frame and where where they wanted to
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: win or what their goals were as an organization, and
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: nothing against Chicago, you know, they were, you know they
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: have they're kind of in the rebuild stage. Like you said,
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: they're more about development right now. And I think, you know,
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: when I got traded here, it's great that you know,
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: they're in more of a win now. Mode where they're
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: using assets, they're using picks to make the team better
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: at deadlines and trying to go all in. So definitely
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: have different mindset, like you mentioned, whether it's preparation before
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: the game, little things like that, where every single game
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: does matter. You know, we're sitting at the top of
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: the standings right now and we want to keep that
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: and every play matters, every game matters.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Chicago's obviously in a different situation right now. Before we
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: flip it to floor, I do want to ask you
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: one thing with the Blackhawks set and watching Connor, but Dart,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: you know, coming into the league with that kind of
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: feign affair, what do you make of the way that
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Connor has handled himself and certainly all the hype around him.
• 23:51
  Speaker 7: I mean, Connor is a very mature kid.
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: He got the weight of the world on his shoulders
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: from day one, you know, even before the draft happened,
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: before he was drafted to Chicago. He feels that pressure
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: every day. He feels the need to win and you know,
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: kind of put the organization on his back, so to speak.
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: And it's a lot for an eighteen nineteen year old
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: to do that, but he handles it very well. Handled
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: the media very well every day. He's one of the
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: hardest workers I've seen, first one of the rink, last
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: one off the ice, constantly does the little things, works
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: on his face sox every day. So you know, he's
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: a special player. He's going to be a special player
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: in this league for a long time. And I know
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: that he wants to continue to get better every year
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: and help drive that team to be a playoff contender again.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: You know, coming into this Panthers team and you know
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: you're a veteran now and a leader, and you know,
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: coming into the league with the Nashville Predators, you know
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: you had probably one of the great leaders of all
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: time and Shae Weber, Like, what did you learn from
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: him that you've kind of taken with you throughout your career.
• 24:59
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Shaye was an awesome leader.
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: I lived with Shae the first six months of my
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: rookie season, through camp through the first few months of
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: the season, and I think just the way he handle
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: his business every day.
• 25:09
  Speaker 7: He wasn't the biggest talker.
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: He wasn't in the locker room all the time, you know,
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: every single intermission, art, every single pregame, you know, being
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: super vocal. But when you stepped on the ice, you
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: understood it was all business. He understood he was going
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: to give one hundred percent effort and lead by example,
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: and that's what he did day in and day out,
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: whether it was practice or the game or an off day,
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: you know, doing the proper things to maintain his level
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: of energy throughout a season. So I definitely took a
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: lot of those things with me. I'm not the most
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: vocal person in the locker room, and never really have been.
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: You know, I think everyone's different when it comes to that,
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: But I think work ethic is the most important thing,
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: and I think that can translate in the locker room
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: fairly easily.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: You gotta give me a good you gotta give me
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: a good Shade Weber story early on, like, because everybody
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: sees him as just like the mean mug. And you know,
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: he slashed me once when I was in Arizona, and
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: I thought he took my leg off, and I was
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: the scariest human alive. There's got to be an endearing,
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: funny story you got of him, especially living with him.
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: Oh man, the story I have a webs is I
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: was actually at the rink on an in the middle
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: of summer and we're doing one timers. I'm nineteen years old,
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: and you know, I'm probably shooting like eighty miles pro
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: one time from the side, and we're shooting him, and
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: then you know there's no going in net. And this
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: guy is probably he's usually like a one to twenty
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: five flex. I think he's got the harder shot I've
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: ever seen. I mean, it comes off different, it sounds different.
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: And there was one puck that missed the net and
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: no one knew where it went. It didn't ring around
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: the wall, and I went over and there's a hole
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: in the boards, and you put a damn hole on
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: the boards.
• 26:52
  Speaker 7: I think I ended up tweeting it.
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: TSN picked it up in a couple other people, but
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: it was I've never seen that before. That was the
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: only time I've ever seen someone put a puck through
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: the boards from the top of the circle.
• 27:03
  Speaker 7: And I mean he didn't need a screen from there
• 27:06
  Speaker 7: on the top. He never did it was hitting the
• 27:08
  Speaker 7: goalie or or was going on.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: As he wound up of the way.
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: Patrick Hornk was actually a net front guy for those
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: first few years, and he was one of the best
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: net friend guys I played with. But he would be
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: diving across the net trying to screen.
• 27:24
  Speaker 7: For him, and I'm like, man, you don't need to
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: do that. He's gonna break your arm.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Not just reputations, Shaye Weber and that amazing shot. I
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: want to ask you, speaking of guys who are verbal
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: and our vocal Brad Marshan, how shocking was it to
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: have him now on the team coming over the Boston Ruins.
• 27:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that was big.
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: I think we were just sitting in the locker room
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: and we saw that obviously on on the screen. And
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: he's definitely a personality. I don't know Marchi's too well.
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: You know, obviously I played against him or whatever, and
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: you know maybe some All Star games, you know, been
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: in the same room as him a couple of times.
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: But he's definitely a character. He came in, he's in
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: the group try right away, chirping guys. Just his attitude,
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: his hisn G brings to the rink has been awesome.
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: Hopefully he can step into the line up here pretty
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: soon and start playing too.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: It's like bru It's like he's I could just imagine
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: him Bennett and Kit Chuck. It's going to be like,
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: you know, probably the love fighting fighting each other and
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: stuff like that. But I mean you you grew up
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: kind of in that respect with your brothers and in
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: a sports household with your dad, but you know you
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: chose hockey. Your dad was basketball and you chose hockey.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: And talk about that moment where you were like, I
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: want to play hockey and this is the sport for me.
• 28:34
  Speaker 7: Yeah. I think it started.
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: It was kind of the vibe of the city when
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: the Abs were really good in two thousand and two
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: thousand and one and a lot of kids started playing
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: hockey in that time.
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: I think they did. They lose a two thousand and
• 28:47
  Speaker 7: then winning oh one, I believe in the in the finals.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Yes, I think.
• 28:50
  Speaker 7: So I was able to be at that game, Game
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: seven one.
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: I think their salary cap was well over one hundred
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: million that year. I mean there's probably six or seven
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: Hall of families.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Getting paid there. Yeah, that was a hell of a team.
• 29:03
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: You know, Sackic passes the cup to Bork one of
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: the all time great moments in NHL history. So I
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: was there, and I was, you know, six seven years
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: old at that time, and I started playing hockey maybe
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: year before.
• 29:16
  Speaker 7: But that's really where.
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: I fell in love with the game you had the
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: game I was at game seven, Yeah.
• 29:22
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it was against Jersey, right, yeah, yeah.
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: So I was at that game with my family and
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: some friends because my dad had played for the Nuggets
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: back in the day, so he had some connections for
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: tickets and so that was obviously an all time great
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: moment for me and really propelled me into the hockey
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: world and wanted to play. Also, my older brother and
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: younger brother, we've all three started playing at the same
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: time and the rest is really history. No one, no
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: one really enjoyed playing basketball unless it was pick up.
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: We had the sport court in the backyard. We had
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: the basketball hoop with the hockey net, and the hockey
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: net would get used the whole time basketball.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Who really, it's funny on the coast sometimes, right. Dad
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: was a start the players going in a different direction.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: It's amazing and it's at that speaking of your journey,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: you're part of that historic gold medal USA team back
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen the World Juniors and fourteen no longer
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Johnny Gudrou with us, but some of these other names, J. T. Miller,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Jacob Truba, Vincent Trochick, John Gibson, Jake McCabe. How special
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: was that unit?
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: That was a very good team. I think when we
• 30:26
  Speaker 6: went in I don't even know if we were the favorites.
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: I think it was a lockout year, so I think
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: a lot of teams had their draft picks from the
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: year before playing. Yeah, but we went into that tournament
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: with you know, I think we had an attitude and
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: a confidence. Definitely obviously having you know, a John Gibson,
• 30:45
  Speaker 6: the net didn't hurt. He was outstanding that tournament and
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: he won many games for US. But you know, I
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: think when it comes to World Juniors too, it definitely
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: helps that you're with a lot of those guys at
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: the US program a couple years before, so the chemistry
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: is already there going into that tournament, which is a
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: big deal. I think in such a short tournament, you know,
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: five seven games, it's a ninety three group and it
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: was a ninety four group, So that.
• 31:10
  Speaker 7: Was a very special moment. It was an UFA Russia.
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: Not sure if you've ever been there, you don't recommend going.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I played in Russia. I kind of enjoyed it,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: But UFA stinks.
• 31:20
  Speaker 7: Uf was not great.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: It is not kind of a mining town, just not
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: a lot area was amazing.
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: It was like it was like an NHL arena in
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: kind of the middle of nowhere where all.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: The money went exactly.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: It's it's yeah, that's it. It's oof like it's uf
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: uh very good time. Yeah, I mean that listening it
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: like playing in Florida. Now that you're there and you've
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: played in some fun towns, you know, uh, Nashville, Columbus, Chicago,
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: but coming into Florida, it's really different. I played there
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: for a year and what's really cool about is you
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: have a lot of outlets to like get away from
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: the game if you need to. And is there you
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: big golfer, is there anything kind of that's tickled your fancies.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: Once you saw you're going to Florida, You're like, oh shit,
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: like I might be able to go fishing or go
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: golfing or something like that and really kind of get
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: some vitamin D and take care of the body.
• 32:10
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: I think it is important in the middle of a season,
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: especially a long season, to get away from the game
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: and not drying yourself in it, you know, whether you're
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: winning or losing. And you know, like this week we
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: had two days in a row off next week. I
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: think we have two days a row off. Again, we
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: don't play for four days. So you know, a couple
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: of guys have boats, like you said, go fishing.
• 32:31
  Speaker 7: I am a I like golf. I don't love it.
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: I'm in Dallas in the summertime and it's super hot there,
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: so sometimes I'm like, I'm not dealing with the one
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: hundred and ten degree heat to play golf unless you're
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: going at six thirty in the morning. But I do
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: like golf. I do like getting outside. You know, you
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: go on beach walks, you do little things like that.
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: Obviously being here in Florida, that can take your mind
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: off certain things and just get away from the game.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: It's always nice. That's when you know players who are
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: so well known with it our Francis are still a
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: part of the team. I've read and seen that Robert
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: a little Longo sometimes skates with the guys that practice.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: If you've seen Louis skate with you guys at all
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: while you've been there.
• 33:09
  Speaker 6: But my first actually my second practice day, I saw
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: him before practice and I, you know, I said, hey,
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: what's up.
• 33:15
  Speaker 7: I had no idea he was skating.
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: And then I'm getting ready and he's on the ice
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: taking shots for practice.
• 33:20
  Speaker 7: I'm like, what is going on right now?
• 33:22
  Speaker 6: I think I think Bob had a day off that day,
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: and I think they have a little thing. You know,
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: Bob will tell him the night before if he's taken
• 33:29
  Speaker 6: the day and then he'll come out, so we have
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: a second goalie. But it was it was pretty funny,
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: and you know, he still got it.
• 33:35
  Speaker 7: He's still got it, that's sure.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: He's not a lot of net.
• 33:39
  Speaker 7: To shoot on.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: No, there's not a lot.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: He's a little little bigger than he was. He just
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: likes to scream at the D. There's not a guy
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: that screamed at the D more than ROBERTA.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Long him.
• 33:48
  Speaker 7: Don't screen him, Yeah.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Don't screen him. How's how's being back? You?
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: But you played with Bob and and I mean how
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: how nuts is number one? His work ethic? But just
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: his ability to I mean, I don't want to say
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: adapt to the NHL, like certainly because he kind of
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: changed his game a bit and struggled and then found
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: his game. Like how cool is it to see his
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: evolution from when you played with him in Columbus to now?
• 34:13
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: I mean he nothing has changed since I was in Columbus,
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: I think till now, when it comes to off the ice,
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: preparing for practice, preparing for games, he's caught. You know,
• 34:25
  Speaker 6: every time you see him he's on the bike. I'm
• 34:27
  Speaker 6: pretty sure. I don't really know if I've seen him
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: when he's not on the bike at the rink and
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: you know, or preparing his gear or getting mentally ready
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: for the game. He's got a I just think it's
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: such a locked in mindset that nothing can face him,
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: you know, And he's a great teammate. If you watch him,
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: whether it's in between whistles or TV timeouts or you know,
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: at intermission, he's always tapping the guys. He's always given Knox.
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: He's always whether the game's going good or bad. It
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: could be going he could give up four you give up,
• 34:57
  Speaker 6: you know, have a shutout going at the time. But
• 34:59
  Speaker 6: he's always very positive and he comes to the rink
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: and he does his job, and you know, it's there's
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: definitely something to say when a guy plays as long
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: as he has, and I think he's I think he's
• 35:10
  Speaker 6: thirty six years old now, but he's still you know,
• 35:14
  Speaker 6: even he's just so locked in, I mean, so locked
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: in and this guy may play till he's for another
• 35:19
  Speaker 6: ten years.
• 35:21
  Speaker 7: With how he takes care of himself.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Thirty six. I can barely get out of bed right now.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Last one for me, Seth, only because you mentioned the
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: NBA bloodlines with your dad and being a Dallas guy.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Thoughts of the Luca trade. I still can't believe we
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: even discussed that, Like, don't just go to La awful?
• 35:40
  Speaker 7: I don't.
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: I you know, when I went to the rink, everyone
• 35:43
  Speaker 6: was obviously saying it was awful. I didn't think it
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: was awful. It depends how you want to look at it.
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: Right now, it's awful because Davis and Kyrie are hurt,
• 35:51
  Speaker 6: so yeah, but I think if you had Kyrie and
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: Anthony Davis and the pieces they had, they could have
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: contended this year. It's just I think when you look
• 36:00
  Speaker 6: at the big, bigger picture, trading a twenty five year
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: old superstar for injury pro and Anthony Davis, I'm not
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: sure that was the right one.
• 36:09
  Speaker 7: There might be something better out there. But Anthony Davis
• 36:13
  Speaker 7: is no joke.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, well he's healthy.
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: He's just injury prone and so clearly that it already happened.
• 36:20
  Speaker 7: It's the first game. I think he played for the
• 36:22
  Speaker 7: Magyars growing or something like.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: He looked.
• 36:27
  Speaker 7: He had like twenty six and thirteen in the first
• 36:30
  Speaker 7: half or.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Something that was incredible.
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: But yeah, I mean, obviously the Lakers are set for
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: the next ten years. I have a superstar, you know,
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: box office player.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Amazing man.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: Hey, seth Uh, listen, I really appreciate your time, especially
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: after packing up all your stuff in Chicago and on
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: your days off then coming here and entertaining us to
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: uh hooligans, which that's certainly added. And tell not me,
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: but good luck the rest of the way, buddy, say
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: hi to Teddy Richards for me. He's the man, one
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: of the best trainers in the game. Get a big
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: hug from me and keep him keep him on the
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: straight and narrow. So thanks buddy, good luck the rest
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: of the way.
• 37:06
  Speaker 7: Perfect. Thanks, A lot of guys appreciate.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: It all right.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Thanks once again to Seth Joes who was awesome. Big
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: George Foreman left us, which is a really sad moment. Obviously,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: the former heavyweight champion of the world passed me the
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: last five at the age of seventy six. Or for
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: this week's cine File and sixty I'll tell you a
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: few stories. But the two time heavyweight champion and Olympic
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: gold medalist because I got to be in this movie.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Big George Foreman got the role. Me and my buddy
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Robert Floores, of course, colleague at MLB Network and longtime
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: friends from our days at ESPN both and he and
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: I both boxing fans. So they cast us and Jadi
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: were in a recording studio.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Of course, you're.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Familiar this with Gillian Muller. And what they do is
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: you have the video there for the scene. Now they've
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: already cut the scene, they've shot, they've ended it. It's
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: just a matter of, you know, voicing over. And so
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: George Tillman comes on. He's a director, just like this
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: on Zoom and he's great. They like any true director.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: You just do the take and then he's right, that's great,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: let's try it again. And my M not sure, but
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: you're married to an actress wife. I just stick to
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: exactly what I did. Unless the producer slash director, remember
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: it is guiding me. I do it. Because if they
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: say we'll trot like this, then I try differently. If
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: they go we'll do it, if I will, otherwise I'll
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: give it to you because I'm like, I get it.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: They just want to take a certain way. They want
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: to hear a certain way. And George is great. After
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: we do a few lines, it's literally couplets. I'll give
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: one line, Robert gives one line. He pauses, Okay, go again,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: go again. They give you the three dots. Boom me
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: go again. He says, you know, you're robertson a little
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: similar and he knows I can't go any other level
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: because rolflll knows. Mefle's like, I'll go down a little bit.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: You know, we're don't have to do accents or anything.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: You know, we're not trying to Howard Cussell here, but
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: it's fine.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: We go ahead.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: So we're doing it.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: We're doing it.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: We do the whole role. Okay, great, And as you
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: know these things, it takes forever, even though you know
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: you're just reading lines. It's fairly straightforward. But the funniest
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: part is George, because here's this one line we're having
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: a problem with the goy sure, and it's Foreman's legs
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: are rubbery and all these legs are strong, and I'm like, yep,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: he goes, Foreman's legs are rubbery and all these legs
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: are strong. He was like, what would you say if
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: you were calling a fight. I was like, well, you know,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: I called a few fights for the Zone. I would
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: just say he looks ghassed, and Roberts like yeah, I
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: would say looks shot, and George looks us and goes.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: You know, it took us months to got to get
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: that line. You guys do about five seconds. Go ahead,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: do what you guys just said. So the funniest part
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: was at the end he was all right, forget all
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: the script. I want you, Robert, just call the fight.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Don't even look at the script. Just call as if
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: you're on the monark. Call in the fight. Mac, Great,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: we do it. We have it. Blast. It's awesome and
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: especially that great moment for those that don't know the
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: rum in the Jungle. I'm telling Flora, I'm like, dude,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: we're not gonna get k out of the fight. It's
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Rumble the Jungle. Very famously, George Foreman was the heavy favorite.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Ali went in there as the underdog wins the hearts
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: of everyone in zi year the great documentary Rumble the Jungle.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Those you may have seen by Leon gast won An
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Academy Award. Ali plays Ropodope, eventually comes to life, knocks
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: out Foreman. He loses the fight. So that's a really
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: the moment the movie comes up to Netflix. They sent
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: me a copy head of time because I interviewed George
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: for Cinophile and I'm so excited for this moment. I gues,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: this is great and I'm watching I okay. As always
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: with editing, they always take out a lot, right, so
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: you look cut one line there. I'm like, okay, one
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: line there, and then the big moment like here we go,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: and George makes the artistic and correct decision but devastating
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: to me to completely mute our sound ups the music
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: to a crescendo, and in slow motion you see big
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: George Foreman tumbling to the canvas like a oh like
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: any other actor. Dating. All my best stuff left in
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: the editing floor. But you can check out Big George Forman.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: You can still catch a few Chris Mannix who covers box.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: You can tell right aways, no I could touch your voice.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: You had like six lines gout my best line, like
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: where I really lost my shit didn't make the cut.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: The editing room is a thankless place and it's just
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: a dark crevasse.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: And how many times has Jill told you they shouldn't
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: have ran that take? My other take was better. Why
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: why did choose that take?
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: She never I think everything she did just they never
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: cut it out.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Everything was a plus it.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it just could be, could be a you problem.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: I know, Rest in peace, George. Just amazing, amazing career.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: I know, speaking of Cinophi, you want to talk a
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: little bit of snow White as well. The latest live
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: action adaptation of an animated Disney classic, forty three million
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: dollars domestic opening in a film that costs two seventy
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: to make, delayed by COVID actors strike a set fire,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: and now's before they pushed the films released in a
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: whole year back backlash of her old comments from star
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Rachel Zegler, not your how the best way to cast
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: dwarves if you can call them the seven Dwarves? Your
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: thoughts at all this? I know you were impassioned.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: Impassion.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: It's just more like like Disney, like just stop trying
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: to remake live action, Like stop, don't remake something from
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: nineteen thirty seven, and then just butcher the whole thing.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: Put some young girl on that's never seen it, that
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: ends up just shit talking the story the whole time.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: I'm like, then, just don't do it. Come up with
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: an original thought. He had some great stuff early on.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: Come up with an original thought. Stop remaking these live
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: action pieces as shit that just don't do well. And
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: then the whole time it's just now it was marred
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: by a lot of you know, COVID happened and the shutdown,
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: but this just was just awful. And then number, you know,
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: number two on a long list of shit, Peter Dinklic
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: coming out and just just causing.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's he cut more.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: War winning actor from Game of Thrones. He's fabulous.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: He's a little person.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, listen, his comments cut more jobs than Elon
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: Muskin Doge. It's like, just think of all the stand ins,
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: Think of all the actors that would play the seven Dwarfs,
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: the stand ins, the stunt doubles, all those people know
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: jobs by Cassis, sunder for Ai, more technology, more cjed.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: It looked god awful. It's I couldn't sleep for two
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: days after looking at that. Peter Dnklish, Rachel Zegler, Disney
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: just complete failure. And it's showing up because people aren't
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: gonna go because people smell that shit a mile away.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I listen. I was amused when these big ten
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: pole movies fall apart like that, And I'm with you
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: that I like when people have original ideas. I get
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: tired of these reimaginings and like, you know, just animated
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: movies live class because I'm I'm annoyed by the lack
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: of inspiration. Tala thought on Dinklage or Zeglar, any of this.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: Yes, please tell way in Ah, I.
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: Don't have much of a thought. I'm not gonna see it.
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: I'm not have no interest in saying. I'm just it's
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: it's not in my wheelhouse this thing at all. It's
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: a chin it's a children's movie.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: I get it.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: So that's probably by design.
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: But I don't see why we've had two live action
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: Lion King films, Like we didn't need one and we
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: got two. So I just I think I think this
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: may be the nail and the coffin for these things.
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: I think it's been pretty well documented that there's not
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: a huge appetite for live action remakes of these classic
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: animated films that we all love.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Just keep it where it is, come up with.
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: A few new ideas and everyone will be happy.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: I can always get down with the Laddin. But to
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: tell us point, we've had enough. Speaking of having enough,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: John Torrell and the Philadelphia Flyers just got drilled by
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: the least seven to in Toronto. I was watching the
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: game Sunday and I was texting EJ Erradic at Mike
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: Johnson were calling the game ANHL Neworker. So this game
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: is atrocious. Each goal that fidotof allowed Mike Johnson seemed
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: to get more and more annoyed. Palpably agitated at the
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: state of Philadelphia goaltending and Tortorella for his part. By
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: the way, or since started that game the one lasted
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: in Toronto, but Toros, this falls on me.
• 44:04
  Speaker 8: I'm not really interested in learning how to coach this
• 44:07
  Speaker 8: type this in this type of season where we're at
• 44:09
  Speaker 8: right now, but I have to do a better job.
• 44:13
  Speaker 8: So this falls on me getting the team prepared to
• 44:14
  Speaker 8: play the proper way until we get to the end.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: But they're disastrous right now. I would argue Keith Chones
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: is probably happy I'll get that lottery pick. Him and
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Danny Breer want a regroup okay, fine one to eight
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: and won their last ten. But even Bruce Boudreaux, our
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: colleague and friend JD, he buried Torts. He accuse him
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: of quitting on the team. He's at seven hundred and
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: seventy wins, ranking ninth all time. But this is classic Torts.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: Year three, so year when he comes in, clearly the
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: team impresses year two. Last year. As you recall, Flyers
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: were in the mix most year they were a playoff team.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately fall part late and you're through the players go okay,
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: I've had enough. I'm tuning out towards That's it. I
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: can't see him recurring to coach. Wouldn't be surprised if
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: Brier keeps around, maybe in a different capacity. I don't
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: know if he wants to still coach. But your thoughts on.
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: Torts, Well, it's tough because I do like Torts at times,
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: and I've been positive with him the past couple of years,
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: but I just I don't to Bruce point, I think
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: he hits it nail on the head. You can't quit
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: on your team or even allude to that fact. You're
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: the you're the face, You're not the you know, you're
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: the face in a sense like you're the one that's
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: out there fielding the questions. You have to protect the players,
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: and the players got to play for you at the
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: end of the day, because you're the your head's on
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: the chopping block. Maybe he sensed it pretty early, and
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: maybe they told him something at the Four Nations break
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: that he was on his way out and they were
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: going to move in a different direction. He kind of
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: just like, a screw it, I'm just gonna quit on. See,
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: we gotta find ways to get up for games. And
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: I mean it's on the players too. It's not only
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: on torts. You got to find a way to get
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: out for games. Play for games, you know, play for
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: a record. You know, you're trying to have a Even
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: those years I was on shit teams in Arizona, we'd
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: always find a way to to finish strong and have
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: something positive to go into come the summer. And it's
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: just like, I just don't love it. It's it's a
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: very shows a lack of leadership and you know, towards
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: being I only coach on winning teams. I'm like, when's
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: the last time he's really had a winning record? But
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: very honest here, I know like, you know, like he's
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: had a couple, like he hasn't really had great ones
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: as of late. So I'm like, maybe just get up
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: and maybe he is just frustrated and sick of it.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: Uh so maybe he does need to go into a
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: different role and go into more on the development side,
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: or maybe be an assistant coach and just take some
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: pressure off himself. So yeah, I didn't love the comments.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: And uh yeah, remarkable how atrocious their power plays when
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: the Flyers are oh for March.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: Oh there, Yeah, they can't keep the puck out of
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: the net. They can't score. I don't even want to
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: watch a game because it makes it's sickening.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Having said that, Flyers and Sabers Saturday, one o'clock Eastern
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: NHL Support Network. No, I saw J. Yes, you have
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: another Flyers team coming up. He's like, I do Saturday Sabers.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Let's go come get.
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: To c J raddick. Poor guy. But let's talk about today.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: It was pretty wild today with us trying to get
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: set on a time. I got my time zones mixed up.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: It happens.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: But why, I'll tell you why.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: So I you know, I'm back in Arizona and when
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: I come back in Arizona for four or five days.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: In between the network shows. I'm just like getting shit done,
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: getting shit done. And what I do is I have
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: a fifty eight Apache. I bought it a it's a Chevrolet.
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: It's a resto mod truck. I bought it Barrett Jackson
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: when I was drunk playing for the Coyotes. Michael Grabner.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: Michael Grabner like kind of talked me into it, and
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: he was like, you won't do it, and I was like, sure,
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: I'll do and I picked up the paddle. I was like, oh,
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: this seems pretty cool. Oh I had forty grand, I
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: have fifty grand, ILL have sixty grand. Then all of
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: a sudden, I was like, yeah, I actually don't want it.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: They're like sold the guy up in there and I'm
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: I'm sitting there with a screwdriver, just sipping on it,
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: just rosie cheeked. After I told my wife, yeah, I
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: won't buy anything, twenty minutes later, I'm like, hey, honey,
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: we're the proud owner of a hot rod. Read it's
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: fifty eight Apatchee, so which I ended up.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: We ended up falling in love with it. We loved it.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: We've had it for five six years, and but now
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: just because we've been traveling back and forth from New York,
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm just gonna consign it and sell it
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: and move on. I had a lot of fun with it,
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: so that's when I was going to pick up the truck.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: And as I'm picking up the truck, I told you
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: we're supposed to film it certain time, and I completely
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: mix up the time zones. So I was literally like
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: in the Apache trucks or here I am on the
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: highway in Arizona at like launch traffic, just reving the
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: engine on this fifty eight, try not to have the
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: wheels fall off, just like, oh shit, I gotta get
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: done scripted.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: Oh God, shout out to fifty and the patches and
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: appreciate the effort.
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: It's a beautiful truck. I'll send you a picture so
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: you can post it.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Please do before we close the JDPOV. It was just
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: fascinating to me as we stuck this discmelt Tal had
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: no interest in snow White. You had to interest in
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: Jim Harbos. Let me just clean up what exactly Dnklice
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: did say. He publicly railed against Disney remaking it because
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: he said he lows little people being cast specifically for
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: little people characters. He also called the remake fucking backwards,
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: So just for a context, that's what Dnkline said.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: Did.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but like, come on, Pete, Pete, pde baby, like
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: you've had a fantastic career, and yes you could if
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: you are a good actor, you can do a multitude
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: of different roles. But this feels like it's kind in
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: your wheelhouse for the for the fellows and.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: The ladies that are a little bit high challenged.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: Right, give us a JDPOV.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: On the way out.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you want me to talk about Well, we
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: talked about something that on the network with Mike Kelly.
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: We put something together for defensemen that pinch and create
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: offense because my biggest thing was like pinching is one thing,
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: so like when you're pinching down low on the fore check,
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: a lot of guys are very good at keeping the
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: puck in the zone and holding the line. But off
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: of that, if you don't create any offense, you're just
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: basically killing time. And then that you know the other
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: teams you can get the puck, they're gonna break it
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: out and then you're on defense. So we kind of
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: played with that notion. He called me, and I was like,
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: let's kind of like, let's take a deep dive because
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: you're specifically referencing Toronto because they don't create a lot
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: offense from the back end. And I was like, well,
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: they don't really have a guy that can pinch and
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: then off of that pinch create offense. So he looked
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: and he kind of crunched the numbers as as one
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: would do, as Mike Kelly would do, and he found
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: out that like the first defenseman from Toronto that shows
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: up that creates offense off of a pinch is like
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: sixty second in the league. So it kind of went
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: with what we were talking about. So we looked at
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: who would be the top five guys. In the top
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: three is Ross Mustahleen is number one. So for every
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: time he holds the line, twenty four percent of the
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: time around that number, he creates an offensive scoring chance
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: or a shot towards the net. So that's one in
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: four pinches. And then it's Lane Hudson and Colton Pareco.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: So there's a method to the madness of like de
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: man holding the line and then from that it's the
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: next play you make. You don't just shovel it down low.
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: You want to try to make a play with it.
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: And I think that's something and maybe a metric that
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: teams can start looking at of Like, listen, this guy's
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: a good pincher. He holds the puck in, he doesn't
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: back off. But off of that, he's not just giving
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: the puck away. He's making something happen with it.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: It's pretty cool. It's like a brave heart.
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: Hold hold the line.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: Lane Hudson having a hell of a season.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: Maybe when Yeah, he's man. But Dustin Wolf, who's your.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: Call the pick? Right now? Celebrany Wolf of Hudson Beach.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: CoP's falling off a little bit.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: I think it's going to depend Unfortunately, I want to
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: make it.
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: It's Hudson or Yeah, and I think celebrate. If neither
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: all three don't make it, it's celebrating.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: I like it.
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: It's not bad, right, I like to take that to
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: the bank. Like I said, digest it. Good logic.
• 51:27
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• 51:29
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• 51:31
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• 51:34
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• 51:36
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