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Wired To Hunt Podcast #127: A Tale of Two Ruts · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for
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  Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,
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  Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm
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  Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan, and this is episode number one Tay.
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  Speaker 1: In the show, Dan and I are sharing with you
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  Speaker 1: are hunting experiences from the past couple of weeks, the ups,
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  Speaker 1: the downs, and the lessons learn All right, welcome to
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  Speaker 1: the Wired to Hunt podcast, brought to you by Sitka Gear.
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  Speaker 1: And today in the show, we have two stories of
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  Speaker 1: the two thousand sixteen white Tail rut. One is of
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  Speaker 1: resounding success and the other is of utter despair. Come on, man,
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  Speaker 1: it's not that bad. One is Dan Johnson's and one
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  Speaker 1: is mine. But quickly, before we get to these stories
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  Speaker 1: and lessons learned, we need to thank our partners at
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  Speaker 1: rather than our usual short sick of story, this entire
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  Speaker 1: Gear dot com and now, Dan, tell me, how are
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  Speaker 1: you feeling right now? WHOA yes, sir, No, man, I'm happy.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's when it's just it's crazy, just so many emotions, um,
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  Speaker 1: and you know things that go through your head after
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  Speaker 1: you after you shoot a deer, and you know, you
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  Speaker 1: think about what you've done the past, what you've done wrong,
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  Speaker 1: what you've done right. Um, you know what you've you know,
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  Speaker 1: and then it's like the day passes and now I'm
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  Speaker 1: already thinking about two thousand seventeen. So it's just it's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: I know, I'm I'm super excited for you. And if
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  Speaker 1: anyone hasn't been following social media, they're probably freaking out
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  Speaker 1: right now and wondering what exactly happened. And we will
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  Speaker 1: get to that. Um, but I don't know, Dan, I
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  Speaker 1: kind of want to hear about what's going on with
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  Speaker 1: you first, because you've got the best stories to share.
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  Speaker 1: Do you want to start from the beginning with like
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  Speaker 1: way back since we last talked, and then just like
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  Speaker 1: take us up through what's happened most recently with your hunts. Right. Um, sure,
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  Speaker 1: oh man, when was when was the last time we talked?
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  Speaker 1: Because I actually missed a buck or hit a limb
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  Speaker 1: or something. It was one of the I'll just kind
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  Speaker 1: of tell the story because we haven't talked about that yet.
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  Speaker 1: I think we we haven't talked since like the end
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  Speaker 1: of October, because we had recorded that one early. It's
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  Speaker 1: been like a good ten to fourteen days since we've
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  Speaker 1: actually got new new stuff, right right, Well, I just
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  Speaker 1: want to kind of tell a really quick story before
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  Speaker 1: I go into into that one I had. I had
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  Speaker 1: the opportunity my stepdad. I was actually back home hunting
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  Speaker 1: my main farm, and I brought my daughter with me
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  Speaker 1: and she was hanging out with my mom, her grandma,
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  Speaker 1: and my my stepdad that morning shot a buck on
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  Speaker 1: the property that they live on. It's only seven acres
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  Speaker 1: and there it was just it's just a little you know,
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  Speaker 1: a little spike basically, Uh, that's cool. Actually, there's a
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  Speaker 1: law in Iowa. And he didn't know it because when
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  Speaker 1: it came through it was really dark and it was
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  Speaker 1: us I mean, there was one two inches of bone, uh,
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  Speaker 1: sticking out of his head. He thought it was a
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  Speaker 1: dough and he shot it. But the rule, the rule
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  Speaker 1: in Iowa is you can put your dough tag on
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  Speaker 1: it if the antlers are not forked. So um so
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  Speaker 1: that he didn't see it. He thought it was a
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  Speaker 1: dough He had a dough tag luckily when he shot it.
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  Speaker 1: So all that played out fine, legal and all that.
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  Speaker 1: But the cool thing about that was was I helped,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I take some I took some pictures. I
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  Speaker 1: helped him track the blood trail. He only went about
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  Speaker 1: fifty yards. And I had the opportunity to take my daughter,
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  Speaker 1: who's three years old, out and my my mom carried
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  Speaker 1: her into the woods after we found the deer, and
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  Speaker 1: um just to see the look on her face, and
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  Speaker 1: she asked so many questions, and you know, it's kind
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  Speaker 1: of it's almost like I wish I had more to
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  Speaker 1: say to her because I, as as a father, I
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  Speaker 1: was ill prepared for that moment on my life. It's like, so, Daddy,
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  Speaker 1: is this buck dead or this dear dead? Yes, honey,
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  Speaker 1: why did they kill it? Because you know they're taught,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you can't hurt things. You're not supposed to
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  Speaker 1: hurt other humans or hit or kick, you know, or
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  Speaker 1: or bite, So why did Grandpa kill this deer. I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 1: Grandpa killed this deer to turn it into meat for
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  Speaker 1: you know, our you know, for our food so we
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  Speaker 1: can eat it. You know, it provides us food. And
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  Speaker 1: she's like okay, and then you know I had to
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  Speaker 1: tell her, you know, just kind of working. You know,
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  Speaker 1: God created these animals for us and um, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's our responsibility to you know, when we shoot them.
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  Speaker 1: We got to put a good shot on them so
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  Speaker 1: they don't go very far. And you know, and she's
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  Speaker 1: just asking, you know, questions about the broad head and
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  Speaker 1: she's like, is this is this what poked the deer?
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I just it was it was a
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  Speaker 1: first for me and I thought that was it was
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  Speaker 1: really cool. That is that is so cool? Did she
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  Speaker 1: did she ask you anything that you didn't know how
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  Speaker 1: to answer? Um? Is the buck? Did the buck die?
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  Speaker 1: Or is the buck dead? Or is the dear dead?
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  Speaker 1: Is the dear dead? I'm just like, yeah, the deer's
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  Speaker 1: the deer's dead. She's like, oh, that's sad. You know.
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  Speaker 1: So there was emotion involved. There was a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more emotion for her involved in it. Um, And you know,
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  Speaker 1: there there wasn't a lot of blood because it was
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  Speaker 1: a good shot and he fell over fairly quickly, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, I wiped the blood off of his nose
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  Speaker 1: before before she got there, and um, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: just had to basically shoot from the hip and try
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  Speaker 1: to figure out what to say right then and there.
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  Speaker 1: And I think I did a decent job of just
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  Speaker 1: telling her, you know, you know, we're gonna we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: turn this into food so we can eat it with
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  Speaker 1: our you know, potatoes and carrots and you know, so
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  Speaker 1: that's awesome. Yeah, I imagine that's got to be just
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  Speaker 1: like one of the coolest things, Like when I think
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  Speaker 1: about future kids, that's like warm of the types of
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  Speaker 1: things that I imagine being like, so, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: so filling, being able to share moments like that, right,
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  Speaker 1: And it was cool. My mom was there and my
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  Speaker 1: stepdad was there and they got to experience it's that
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  Speaker 1: little moment too. And I took some pictures and I
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  Speaker 1: haven't posted him yet, but I'm gonna. I'm gonna post
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  Speaker 1: him here in a little bit of her just like
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  Speaker 1: the expressions on her face like oh my gosh, this
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  Speaker 1: is this is this is cool. But you know, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know like she she liked it, but she wasn't
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  Speaker 1: like overboard like my son. I just know when I
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  Speaker 1: do that with him, he's gonna be like riding it,
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  Speaker 1: you know, touching it and you know, like patting it
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  Speaker 1: and stuff like that. She was just a little leary
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  Speaker 1: of that of it. So, um, I gotta do my part.
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  Speaker 1: Like when I when I told her that I shot
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  Speaker 1: my buck this year, she was, oh, yeah, Dad, good job.
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  Speaker 1: You know you shot him. You shot him, You shot
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  Speaker 1: a big buck. That's awesome Dad. I'm like, yeah, we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna turn it into food so we can eat it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna eat me, you know. So she was all
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  Speaker 1: jacked up about that and that, uh, that was pretty cool.
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  Speaker 1: That's awesome. So did she see your buck too? Um,
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  Speaker 1: she never got to see it because I took it
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  Speaker 1: to the taxidermist before I ended up bringing it back home,
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  Speaker 1: but I showed her pictures and she's like, oh, that's cool.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna shoot a buck someday to dad, right, right, dad, right?
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, yeah, you are, come on, you're
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  Speaker 1: old enough. You can come hunting with daddy. That would
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  Speaker 1: be pretty cool. Yeah. So that I just wanted to
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  Speaker 1: share that story because you know, oftentimes we talk a
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  Speaker 1: lot about strategy on this and you know, how to
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  Speaker 1: actually kill the deer. But it's the moments like that
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  Speaker 1: for me now as a father, that have a little
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  Speaker 1: light shine on them as well. So that's great. I
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  Speaker 1: I love it. I love that story. Now let's let's
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  Speaker 1: forget about all that bs right, let's talk about let's
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  Speaker 1: talk about the meat and potatoes. Um, okay. So I
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  Speaker 1: ended up going back home, uh for a couple you know,
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  Speaker 1: for the last week of work. I ended up working
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  Speaker 1: a Monday, and it was that weekend before Halloween. I
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  Speaker 1: it was my very first morning hunt on my buddy
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  Speaker 1: Buddy's property, and uh, the evening before I saw an
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  Speaker 1: absolute giant buck um just like four yards away on
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  Speaker 1: a neighboring property. He was in one of the guy's
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  Speaker 1: food food plots. He's a he's got like a hundred
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  Speaker 1: forty acres over there, and it's it's basically no timber,
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  Speaker 1: but it's all food plot. So it's standing corn. It's
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  Speaker 1: like those tripod houses, those hunting houses, and uh, I
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  Speaker 1: think he muzzleloaded hunts. He lets a couple of guys
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  Speaker 1: bow hunt over there, and there's a tree line at
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  Speaker 1: all these deer come through. Well, there's a sliver of
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  Speaker 1: property that runs between the property that I can hunt
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  Speaker 1: in the property where all these deer coming I have
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  Speaker 1: a sliver. It's it's basically this giant pinch point that
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  Speaker 1: I talked about on my buddy's property that all the
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  Speaker 1: deer work through. And I think, um, I've told you
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  Speaker 1: in previous podcast last year, I was having trouble trying
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  Speaker 1: to figure out how this wind, this wind goes back
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  Speaker 1: and forth. So what I found was I have to
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  Speaker 1: get into the low spots and I have to basically
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  Speaker 1: hunt these stands where a north and a south wind
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  Speaker 1: are both bad. So not only am I the wind
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  Speaker 1: direct because the wind direction comes like a tide. It
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  Speaker 1: goes back and then it goes forth when the wind
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  Speaker 1: blows hard, you know, So if it's if it's a
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  Speaker 1: north wind, I'll have a pretty consistent north wind. But
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  Speaker 1: when the wind dies down, it's like everything floods back
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  Speaker 1: down to the low ground. Right. So I have to
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  Speaker 1: hunt this area where a north wind is bad and
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  Speaker 1: a south wind is bad, Meaning I have to go
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  Speaker 1: in there for only a south wind, but I have
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  Speaker 1: to know that the south the south and the north
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  Speaker 1: are both bad. So you're just praying that they come
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  Speaker 1: from the east or west. No, I'm praying that they
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  Speaker 1: walk through because the pinch point so tight. I'm praying
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  Speaker 1: that they come through that exact pinch point. And I
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  Speaker 1: have a shooting lane to the north, and I have
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  Speaker 1: a shooting lane to the south. So if there's an
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  Speaker 1: east wind, I'm screwed. If there's a west wind, I'm screwed.
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  Speaker 1: But I have to so I have basically I figured
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  Speaker 1: out that's basically to tree stand locations. And if they
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  Speaker 1: come from if they come too high to the south,
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  Speaker 1: if they if they come through to the north, they're
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  Speaker 1: not gonna really bust me because they're they're clear on
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  Speaker 1: the other side of the property, past the creek, and
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  Speaker 1: they walk through that ozonic streme and they don't they
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  Speaker 1: don't hear nothing, and they don't smell nothing. However, these
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  Speaker 1: deer are hunted hard, um. And I think I told you.
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  Speaker 1: I had a dough step out at about a hundred
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  Speaker 1: and twenty yards from me and walk out in this
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  Speaker 1: little grassy area which is somebody's backyard, and just you know,
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  Speaker 1: kind of feed towards me. And I did not move
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  Speaker 1: one muscle and she pegged me at like a hundred
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  Speaker 1: at a hundred yards. So I'm just like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: how did she I didn't do anything, but she pegged me.
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  Speaker 1: The wind isn't in her favor. That's just how spooky
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  Speaker 1: these these deer are. You know they they are so
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  Speaker 1: observant because they get hunted quite a bit in this area. So, UM,
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  Speaker 1: let's fast forward to the good part. Um that first
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  Speaker 1: morning that I was able to hunt on my buddy's property. Um.
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  Speaker 1: The previous night, I passed a little uh, he's I
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  Speaker 1: think he's an eight point or probably UM class three
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  Speaker 1: year old. Nothing, nothing exciting. The next morning he came
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  Speaker 1: through again and I was I passed him, but following
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  Speaker 1: right behind him, all I saw was a big dark
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  Speaker 1: body and then I saw I put my binonos up
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  Speaker 1: and through what I could From what I could see,
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  Speaker 1: there was these huge bases. Um, and so I go, oh,
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  Speaker 1: that looks like a shooter. And it was one of
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  Speaker 1: these things where I was so caught up in the
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  Speaker 1: moment that I did not do a very good job
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  Speaker 1: of observing the actual body size of this buck. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if you've ever done that, And you just
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  Speaker 1: like you're so you're so focused on I gotta kill,
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  Speaker 1: I gotta kill, I gotta kill. And and so he
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  Speaker 1: came up, he made a scrape. Well, between the time
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  Speaker 1: he made a scrape and um, the time that he
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  Speaker 1: was going to follow this other buck out through one
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  Speaker 1: of my shooting lanes, three does came in behind me
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  Speaker 1: and busted me moving and they blew and they blew
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  Speaker 1: and they booked and then they ended up just kind
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  Speaker 1: of walking away from me. Um. But it's crazy out
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  Speaker 1: there because the deer blows so much that the bucks
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  Speaker 1: don't even care about it. So here he was just chilling.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, he of course he was focused right on
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  Speaker 1: this uh these does, and he was like, okay, what's
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  Speaker 1: the problem because he doesn't smell me, he doesn't see me. Um,
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  Speaker 1: all these uh, all these uh does are blowing and
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  Speaker 1: he's like, what's what's going on? These women are just crazy.
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  Speaker 1: So they work their way away and he kind of
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  Speaker 1: puts his nose to the ground. He's looking at this
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  Speaker 1: buck and he's looking in this direction. And I haven't
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  Speaker 1: had the opportunity to stand up quite yet, because as
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  Speaker 1: I'm standing up, these does bust me. So I slowly
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  Speaker 1: sit back down and just kind of waited out, thinking
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  Speaker 1: the hunts over does work their way. I stand up,
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  Speaker 1: grabbed my bow, and this buck starts working out again.
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  Speaker 1: And uh, he's in a shooting lane. I see his antlers,
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  Speaker 1: they're out to his ears there there. Um, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: and he's maybe a one ten one, but I but
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  Speaker 1: I swear to he looked one sixty right all day long.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god. You know, I was just so fired
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  Speaker 1: up because it was the first interaction. It's almost like
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  Speaker 1: I forgot everything that I learned in the last you know,
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  Speaker 1: ten fifteen years of bow hunting, right, It's like, what
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  Speaker 1: did what did you learn? Nothing? It's a big but
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  Speaker 1: I gotta shoot it, and uh, I drew back, I
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  Speaker 1: let the arrow go, and I something happened. I either
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  Speaker 1: just got buck fever and shanked it. But when I
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  Speaker 1: found the arrow, the the broadhead was off of it
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  Speaker 1: and the knock was off of it. So I think
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  Speaker 1: I hit a branch or or something. Well. Checking the
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  Speaker 1: trail cameras and and and after watching him run away,
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  Speaker 1: I was It sucks to say, but I'm glad I
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  Speaker 1: missed him and missed him clean. You know, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: hit him, I didn't wound him. Um, I missed him clean.
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  Speaker 1: And after I looked at trail camera pictures, I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: that's a three year old, right, So I'm just like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I mean maybe I won't tell anybody about this, huh.
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  Speaker 1: I know that feeling. So how are you feeling? Right
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  Speaker 1: after that, though, I was pissed. I called my wife
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, I missed I just missed big Buck.
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  Speaker 1: And and that was before I looked at Joe camera
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  Speaker 1: pictures and found out this Buck was not a shooter.
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  Speaker 1: And she's like, why did you miss? I wish I
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  Speaker 1: wish I knew rights. So that was that was one
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  Speaker 1: of the one of these encounters were it's you know,
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  Speaker 1: it taught me something because it helped me down the
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  Speaker 1: road this year. So imagine you know, in like the
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  Speaker 1: hours after that, like you're thinking through everything that went that,
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  Speaker 1: everything that happened, everything that went wrong, Like, did you
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  Speaker 1: analyze it and figure out anything you like other than
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  Speaker 1: the possibility that you hit a limb? Was there anything
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  Speaker 1: that you told yourself I think I should have done
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  Speaker 1: this differently, or I think I could do this better.
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  Speaker 1: Was there anybody like aha, moment for you after like
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  Speaker 1: replaying in your head. Yeah, and I think I think
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  Speaker 1: I right up rush the shot, straight up my my
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  Speaker 1: own fault. Um. I think I tried to pull off
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  Speaker 1: a shot where the deer may have already seen me
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  Speaker 1: or was on edge because those doors were blowing. Um
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  Speaker 1: or the fact that I got I got buck fever
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  Speaker 1: and straight up rushed to the shot. That's the you know,
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  Speaker 1: just admitting that I made a mistake. Yeah, man, I
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  Speaker 1: think it happens to just about all of us. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think there's a few people maybe other they're just
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  Speaker 1: stone cold. But but it's pretty hard to always have
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  Speaker 1: composed in those moments. You know, we always got we
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  Speaker 1: always try to get better, but it's pretty hard to
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  Speaker 1: be perfect, that's for sure. Yep, that's a fact. That's
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  Speaker 1: a fact. But I'm glad it was a clean mess.
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  Speaker 1: That's the perfect that's the best possible scenaire to come
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  Speaker 1: out of that. That's right. That's right. So I go
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  Speaker 1: back to work on Monday. Um, I end up going
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  Speaker 1: trick or treating with my uh wife and kids. Didn't
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  Speaker 1: hunt it all on Monday on Halloween, which I wish
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  Speaker 1: I would have. Because I go back and I checked
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  Speaker 1: my trail cameras and there's a stud buck walking through
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  Speaker 1: at like two yeah, um Halloween through that pinch point
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  Speaker 1: and midday movement. Um. So anyway that that passed, I
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  Speaker 1: went back out there um that evening and haunted again.
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  Speaker 1: And uh I got into the timber on November one
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: at about um oh jeez, I don't even know, like
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: one thirty two o'clock. So at about three o'clock, I
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: saw this, the buck that I actually missed, walk through
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: this back through this area, you know, three days after
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: I missed him, and head to that those fields passed
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: a couple other small bucks out of this pinch point.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: And uh then the next morning, because of that wind,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: and I was and I ended up having to move
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: move farms, I had a bad win, so I didn't
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: hunt that morning. So I decided, okay, November one, I'm
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: gonna go back down to my main farm and I'll
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: hunt that evening. So I get to my main farm,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: uh pretty early, I checked a whole bunch of trail cameras. Um,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: and through flipping through these trail cameras on uh see
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: it would have been November one, I ended up seeing
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: a mature buck working a field edge captured on among
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: my trail cameras. So as a hunter, I'm like, okay,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: what's my goal at for what's my goal this year?
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: I said, it's to shoot a four year old buck?
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Right antler sized? Antler size does not matter to me.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: I want to my goal. And like I told you earlier,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: this year, my goals to shoot a four year old buck.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: So I see a four year old buck on trail camera,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: so it's like, why not go set up on on
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: this where this buck was seen. I hop in this
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: fence line, um, and I'm hunting a field edge, but
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: one on one side is a one side snag field.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: The other side is kind of like this marshy area
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: and uh it's it's a gigantic staging area slash betting
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: area for a lot of deer. And when it's right
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: that marsh is on and cracking for the rut. And
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: so I set up. I sit there and I see
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: a couple of dos. You know, fast forward a couple
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: of hours, it's like four o'clock. I see a couple
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: of does work through. Um, they kind of do this
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: big loop around. It's almost like their scent check in
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: the marsh. To try to catch it and see if
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: there's anything in that field before they step out. Well,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: a small buck stands up out of a bed. Yep.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: I can I ask you a question? How did what
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: was your thought process in setting up where you did?
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Did you set up there just like right over near
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: where the camera picked him up, or is this based
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: on where you saw him come out? Or how did
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: you choose where to sit specifically? Yep um okay, so,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: and I should have said this earlier, but this buck
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: was working this Uh, we're working a scrape line basically,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: and there's like five or six scrapes along this egg
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: field that's a picked corn field. And um, I don't
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: have permission to hunt the marsh, but I do have
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: permission to hunt the egg field of it, all right,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: So there's like very very little, very little cheeries to
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: choose from. Yep. So I I just get up there,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: I set the stand up, and I basically am setting
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: it up for an observation stand and hoping and with
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: with the ability to shoot two of these scrapes and
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: they're fresh scrapes right, um, probably were made when this
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: buck came through on Halloween night. It was there the
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: thirty one I hunted, uh, which would have been this
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: the first night I hunted there was November two. All right,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: did the running, did the run and gun and uh
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: went in there and uh, I didn't see I saw
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: those does, right, saw this, uh this little dank buck
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: stand up and start chasing these doughs away. Well, this
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: something happened, and I think this buck that I ended
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: up shooting was also betting in that area, and he
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: was betting in this area specifically to catch does in
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: between their betting, using this marsh as a staging area, right,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: and then he would send check them as they would
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: go to the egg field, and if they were hot,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: then he would pursue. But it was still to the
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: point you know where it's uh, it's still that they're
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: not ready yet. So they're they're up on their feet,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: but they're not breeding. That that quote unquote kind of
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: pre h reddit time. And uh, you know, I I
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: see and I see a big buck stand up kind
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: of that last light. I couldn't really tell what it,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: what his antlers were, but I knew he was big,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: and he started chasing these these doughs hard. I think
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: one was a year ling and one was a mature dough. Um,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: and then that was it. That sun went down. They
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: chased him back into the timber and nothing happened. Well,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: November three comes along and thunderstorms all day long. I
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: I'm second guessing myself. I'm like, man, I should I
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: even get into the timber. And I had the opportunity
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: to hunt until like eight or nine o'clock before the
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: rain started in. And I typically don't do this, but
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: to the north it was lightning a lot. So I
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: went into this giant ridge where stand where I could see,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: you know, I had the opportunity to see forever. Um.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: I saw a couple of couple, good dear, but um,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: they were so far away that I didn't you know,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: there's nothing to do. The front came in while I
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: was in the stand, and then it started to rain,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: and uh, I get down, go home, and uh, I'm
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: sitting there all day and I do some work, uh,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: you know, write some articles, you know, do some social
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: media stuff, and thinking I'm gonna get reined out. And
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: it's funny because I'm sitting there on social you know,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: doing my Instagram or Twitter or Facebook, and how it
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: looks like I'm gonna get reined out. Basically, guys are
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: calling me a pussy online. I'm pretty sure I left
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: a comment just said like I said boo or something
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: like that. So it's like, I'm getting called out here,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: so I can't. I can't let you know, I can't
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: get called out. You can't let that happen. I can't.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: I can't let that happen. So luckily I did, and
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: it was I didn't get set up until four o'clock.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: You know, I waited until the rain stopped. I left
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: the house at three. I got into the stand at
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: four fifteen is when I looked up and I was
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: set up because that stand was already there. So all
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: I did to climbing, climb up, strap in, and hang
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: my bow, and I end up seeing two doors work
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: their way in as I'm hooking up, but it's still
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: kind of missing, and they're looking up at me, but
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: they're not doing anything. They're not blowing, they're just kind
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: of looking up at me and they're not I think
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: they're just kind of disoriented because of all the strong
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: winds and rains that had just happened, and they didn't
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: really know what I was. And I was in my
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: camel up in a tree, you know, And unlike the
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: other property that I hunt, these deer can be kind
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: of dumb when they see people in the trees because
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: it's not a high pressure farm, so to speak, and
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: they end up kind of getting really really really kind
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: of spooked out and then not I guess, not really,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: but they're getting kind of spooked out, so they're they're going,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: they're bounding away and whatever. And so I'm texting my
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: buddy right here as it's drizzling, and he's like, I'm
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: in a I'm in a ground line right now, and
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: I am seeing a couple dear kind of spawn their
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: spawn with each other, kind of spar with each other.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, you're you're probably hearing a kid cry
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: in the background, all right. The life of a podcaster
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: whose wife also does a daycare out of the house.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: But but anyway, this um my buddies like, yeah, I'm
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: seeing a lot of a lot of deer sparring. And
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: I text another buddies like, yeah, I just watched, you know,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: to to dear kind of tickle each other's antlers. I'm like,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna rattle blindly, right, this is gonna be a
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: blind rattle. This this this uh cold front just kind
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: of came through, and it wasn't really even a cold front.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: It just rained right because the temperature stayed the same
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: before and after it happened. And I throw the antlers
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: together real hard for about two minutes, and I hang
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: them down. I sit down. About two minutes later, I
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: look over and this buck is standing at the end
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: of this finger in this marsh, and he's working his
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: way right towards me. And at that moment, at that moment,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: first stop. First off, the first thing that went through
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: my head is you missed a buck earlier because you overreacted.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Get your ship together, right, grab the buyos. Identify the buck. Okay,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: I see it was a see it's a ten pointer alright.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Look at his body. Okay, that's a four year old. Okay,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: that's the buck on the trail camera that you said
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: you were going to shoot buyos down. Grab the bow.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, this kid's going bananas room next. All right,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Do you have an editing editing tool for
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: editing out crying babies. We don't have a crying baby
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: edit tool, but we have we have understanding listeners. So okay,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: so this buck is is on a on a frozen
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: rope right right to me, like he's not trying to
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: walk around anything. He's he's walking back and I'm looking
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: at him, and then I still start to get excited
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: because he's bristled up, his ears are back, and he's
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: drooling like he's licking, licking his lips, not just coming
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: out of him, and he's he's just hunched over and
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: he's not a long bodied buck, but he looks like
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: a pit bull right. He's all shoulders, all neck um.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: And it was one of these one of these deer
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: that just makes you look at him, go, he's mature, right,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: He's a mature buck. And so he's getting ready to
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: at about twenty yards step out into this into this
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: one of the shooting lanes. And I didn't trim any
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: shooting lanes. It was just kind of a get up there,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: see what happens. And I'm I'm getting ready to draw back,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: but he does a hard right turn and he walks
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: the fence line of this marsh or he he kind
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: of steps over the fence first and then takes this
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: hard right turn and he's walking right to me. So
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: my twenty five yard shot now becomes he's head on
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: and there's like three trees in this fence row, So
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: I have no shot. The next time I have a shot,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: he's gonna be five yards if not closer to me.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: So he stops and he he stops first just a
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: second to the point or just long enough to where
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: I'm going, Uh, oh boy, what did he catch my scent?
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Because I had it. I had it angled to where
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: if he would have walked past that initial shooting lane,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: he would have caught me. Right. So it was a
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: north northwest wind, and if I had a straight north wind,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: it would have been blowing right down into the shooting lane. Now,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: me and you talk a lot about about cutting the
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: wind right, So you have to you have to be
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: aggressive to the point where the shot has to come
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: right before you get busted. Right. And that's how I
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: that's how I set up this particular tree stand and
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: hunted this particular wind. And he's he's standing there and
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking, oh boy, did he smell something? Did he
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: smell me? But he's just kind of observing his body.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: His body didn't change like he was still in that
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: aggressive state. His ears came forward a little bit to
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: look around but he was still drooling and slobbering, and
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: he's still bristled up. Now you weren't drawn back yet, right,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: not yet? What were you waiting for? What was your
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: He was behind behind something or he was the only
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: point At this point. He was about ten yards from me,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: but the only spot I could see was his left
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: antler in his hind quarters. I had no vitals, and
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: he was still hard quartering towards me. Right. So he
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: he keeps walking all the way back to this uh,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: all the way back to the um or like, past
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: these two trees, and I'm I'm excited right now. I'm
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: pumped because I'm reliving this this moment. Uh. He walks
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: out of this tree, he walks out, he goes he
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: after he walks by that tree, he walks into this
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: little green shrub. No shot. He steps out, and he's
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: five yards from my tree stand. So I'm shooting straight
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: down at him right, almost let the arrow go. I
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: didn't even try to stop him because he was walking
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: really slow, and I spined him and he dropped straight
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: down in his tracks. I freaked out for like one second, like, oh,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: just shot a buck, And then then I saw him
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: flopping and then I turned back into finish him off mode,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: you know, grabbed another arrow, knocked it, launched it right
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: in his heart dead, and I sat down. I hung
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: first time, hold my bow up. I sat down. I'm like,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: oh boy, oh boy, Like what do I do? Like,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: because I haven't shot a buck since two thousand and twelve,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: I think it was, and like all this I kind
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: of had like flashbacks of all these mineral stations, all
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: these trail cameras, all these running gun sets, all of
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: all the years past, right, and it finally kind of
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: clicked for me. It's like, put up your trail cameras,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: find where the action is, and go set up on
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: the action. It's like it's that simple, you know form
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: for me anyway, right, I don't know. And so I
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: pick up the phone. I called my wife, and my
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: wife is just you know, like she's just this year,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: she was more. She was really supportive of me. Um,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: and I had, you know, going into this this rut.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: I had until November seventeenth until I had to go
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: back to work, so I was ready to grind it,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: you know. And I killed two days into my rutcation.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: So it's like I called my stepdad he helped me
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: drag it out and he was he it up dying
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: right there where I shot him, and I to the
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: you know, it's just he's not a giant antler deer,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: which I don't even care about. He is a mature deer. Uh.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: I thought he was a four year old. But I
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: took him to the taxidermist, and his head is gigantic. Right,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: he's got a the biggest neck of any deer I've
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: ever shot saw in the picture. I was like, man,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: he's got a big old, big old neck on him right,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: his body short. Uh, he's he's a brute. He's still
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: a heavy deer. He's well over to fifty. But I
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: take him to the taxidermist, and the taxidermists like, holy cow,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: that's a big, big, big deer, like big body deer.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: His head is huge. It's kind of funny. I don't
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: know if you've ever walked into a taxidermist and with
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: your you're so proud of your buck. You're walking in there,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: you're walk in the door and everybody else is dropping
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: their deer off or he's got mouths there, and you're
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: just like, oh, you know, just kind of a oh,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: there's a there's a booner, there's a booner, there's a booner.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: You know. A guy walks in with like eighty class
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: non typical while I was there, and I'm just like, yeah,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: this guy was mature, right, Like I don't know, I
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: just I thought that was funny. But in Iowa you've
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: got some serious competition to stack up against, right. But
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: the guy's looking at it and he goes, man, I
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: don't think a regular mount is gonna be good. Like
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: a regular amount we're gonna So he shows me. He
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: opens his catalog, right, and he's he's flipping through these
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: uh these forms that the hide goes over, right, and
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: he's like, I think we're gonna need one of these
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: these mounts. And it is amount specifically for Canadian deer,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: who are like bigger net, bigger body an. So I'm
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: just like yes, like that that to me jacked me up.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: And it was like, yeah, you may have big rack,
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: but my bucks a badassid right, So that is awesome.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: And other than that, you know, it's just like get
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: the pictures done. You know, we had them processed, uh,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: all the way processed, and you know, the end of
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: the next day and I got a really bad case
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: of poison ivy because of dragging him out of the
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: thick stuff. But it's all worth it, right, So what's
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: what is your base lesson learned from this whole thing? Oh? Man,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: For me, it was I'm I'm starting to understand, especially
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: for for a family man, that there are times where
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: you want to hunt but you probably shouldn't. That's just
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: that's one thing. It's like, Okay, I went out this year,
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: and I love hunting and I love being outside, and
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: I've had some encounters, some good encounters in off what
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: we would consider off conditioned days. But you know, I
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: think I'm learning this year that you know, we talked
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: a lot about first time in best time in I
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: only sat that particular tree. That was the second time
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: I sat in that tree. And that was the first
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: time all year I sat in a tree stand more
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: than two times. Yeah, So I didn't ever double up
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: on tree stands or locations. I didn't ever, you know,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: I was going where the sign was at. I was
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: being as mobile as possible. Um, I was doing what
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: I had taught conditioned myself to do throughout the years,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: and that was you know, you have your trail cameras
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: tell the story where are the deer at Okay, if
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: there's nothing showing up, you gotta go somewhere else. On
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: these trail cameras, you know, if if there's you know,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: bucks that are coming through in the middle of the night,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: it pointless to hunt that area because there's no sign
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: of them coming in during shooting light anyway. So a
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: picture at midnight is like no picture at all when
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: you're trying to hunt him. I saw this picture of
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: this buck. It was at last light on Halloween, meaning
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: he's gonna make himself visible in this marsh before then,
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: and that was my best intel. So I set up
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: in that area and lo and behold he he he
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: was there before you know, he was pulled away by
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: a hot dough and I had the opportunity to capitalize
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: because of the information my trail cameras told me. If
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: that makes sense, well that's awesome, man. So come together
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: and it's it's not like there was even a plan.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: It was. It was literally the starting point of what
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: I wanted to do for the next you know, seventeen days,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: for you know, fifteen sixteen days, I just started. I
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of luck in what happened to me
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: as well. I luckily ran into a place where a
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: buck walked in front of my truck camera I climbed
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: up in after a rainstorm, and that buck just so
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: happened to be betted in that marsh. But I think,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: I think when you look at these types of situations
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: like this, there's always gonna be an element of luck.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: But the luck wouldn't have been able to play its
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: part if you hadn't done a whole bunch of little
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: things that allowed that happen. So, for example, you hunted
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: on a day when it was rainy, and a lot
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: of people maybe wouldn't have gone on and hunt that day,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: but you did, and you were there after the front
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: passed and that dealers on his feet. You you know,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: you planned your wind right, and you made sure that
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: you weren't going to be blowing your wind into that
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: swamp and stuff. You know, some guys might have tromped
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: in there and didn't care about the wind and would
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: have blew them out before you even had a chance
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: to shoot him. Um, I bet you the true you picked,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: there's probably some experience and some things you learned in
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: the past that helped you pick the right treatise in
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: that night. I bet all of your experience, the things
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: you've done doing so many running guns set ups. You know,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: the day before when you set that stand up, you
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: probably did it really quietly and slowly enough that you
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: didn't spook that deer that maybe it was betted close by.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: I bet there's so many little things like that. I
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: always try to look at my hunts, you know, when
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: I have like a close en counter that goes wrong
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: versus a close en counter where I actually steal the deal.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: And when you start looking at all these tiny little things,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: there's usually a bunch of these things that if I
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: hadn't done this one little thing, I never would They'll
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: kill that buck, you know. It's like that one limb.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: You know. Sometimes you you don't trim the one tiny limb,
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: and that's why you couldn't kill him. And then sometimes
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: you do trim that one little limb, and then that's
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: where you got the shot. I think there's a lot
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: of things like that, probably, and I guess I didn't
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: really think about it, but and and I have a
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: problem with over analyzing things too much. This year, my
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: goal was to be more fluid in my approach And
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: what I mean by that is, let the sign or
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: the information you have dictate where you're gonna hunt. Right.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Don't don't say, oh, man, but this area looks good
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: or this area looks better, or if I go one
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: tree over, maybe i'll maybe I'll do it, but it's
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: a little bit more risky, or you know, it's like
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: it just for me, it just happened this year. I
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: didn't put a lot of thought into anything that I
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: was really doing. I knew I used the information that
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: I had from you know, seasons past, um and what
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: I've conditioned myself to do over my years as a
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: bow hunter. Um. You know, I'm not trying to make
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: myself sound like this God's gift of bow hunting. But
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: for me, it just it just it it happened, right,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: If that makes sense. It does. Sometimes it just that's
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: how it goes. Right. Sometimes you just have to be
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: out there and play as many of your cards right
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: as you can and then hope it works out. Yep,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: that's a fact, man. So yeah, I'm I'm pumped. Uh,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out I got a couple of
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: months to figure out where I'm going to hang him,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: and uh, I just I'm just so blessed, you know.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: And like I said to you, you know after when
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: I called you that night or that that next day,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: I shot that buck and I almost had this feeling
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: of remorse, you know, I shot him. I love these
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: animals so much. You get a little bit of this remorse.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: So you're like, oh, man, that sucks that I had
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: to take a life. But I'm a hunter. That's what
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: we do. He's gonna feed me, and I executed the
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: plan perfectly. That's why he's dead. Then the next thought
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: is like, man, my season for the most part is over. Well,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: I want to talk to you you about that. Yeah, because
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: in Iowa, you guys can get a second tag for
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: muzzleloader or shotgun right right, And yes, yes that's true.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: But where I hunt, man, this isn't like a managed
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: farm where these you know what you see on TV,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: these guys like, oh, late season success, Yeah, late season
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: success on a highly managed farm with forty acres of
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: standing corn. Nobody leaves forty acres of standing corn up
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: around here or around where my farm is. Yes, there
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: are times where maybe a cold front can move through,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: and I'm talking in extreme cold front. We're we're talking
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: twenty five degrees below zero type of weather that gets
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: these feet on their on their daylight, you know, daylight moving.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: It's just very, very hard to locate those deers. And
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm not gonna say it here, but you
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: know my situation, there's other people in the area who
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: who have tons of food plots, and so when winter
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: hits and after shotgun season comes through this these properties,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: these deer leave my property and go to safe havens
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: on other farms where there is that forty acres of
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: standing food. What about the little property. Yeah, that's uh,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: that's a good point. Um. I had some good, good
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: quote unquote luck there last year. As far as seeing dear, however,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: they're all to the north and I just it's like
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: I would be shooting through two properties with my bow
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: two to to get a shot at him. It's just
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: it's very hard. They don't tend to use that pinch
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: point as much. They use the field edge on the
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: north side of the creek, and it's just it's it's
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: very difficult. And to be honest with you, that's you know,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: that's time for me to be doing other things to
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: allow me to hunt the rut. You know, it's they
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: allow me to hunt, maybe go on that western trip,
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: and that you're telling me. No, I know what you're saying.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: I'm giving up, Yeah, given up? No, No, how can you?
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: How can you not hunt from November two through the
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: January and it'll be a two and a half months
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: where people could be deer hunting and you're gonna be
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: able to sit in your house and not Felix scratching
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: your eyeballs out. No, I'm gonna hunt, don't get me wrong,
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: but I'm saying that it's very difficult and very hard
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: to do. I have three dough tags left that I'm
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: by playing to fill uh in the next couple of weeks. Actually,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: so I'm still going to get out and enjoy some
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: of this you know, this rut. But I'm you know,
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: I'm saving my vacation so i can go to some
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: trade shows. Uh, you know, I'm I'm only gonna I'm
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: going back to that weekend warrior type status. And it's
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: it's very hard late season when you know, if that
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: cold front doesn't land when you're in your cubicle or
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: when you're not in your cubicle, then you're kind of
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: you're kind of just you know, you gotta hit that
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: luck stage again. You know, I gotta that luck has
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: to that cold front has to come through on a
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: on a Saturday or Sunday, and if it doesn't, then
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: you're set sitting there hunting. UHT. Five degree December days
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: and those aren't fun to hunt. But but I uh,
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: it's not that I'm not gonna be hunting. It's just
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: that it's just changes. You know, You've got two kids,
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: and you know I can't sit here and say I'm
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: not I'm not gonna hunt, because I will. It's just
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: that the opportunities as the season goes on become less
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: and less. Yeah, alright, Well, I just wanted to make
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: sure you weren't thrown on the towel completely. No, no,
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: because there's still an opportunity. I'm gonna be running a
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: lot of trail cameras on my buddies, and if a
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: big boy starts coming through, I'm gonna be on him right,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: go get him, you man. I mean, I'll tell you
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: what's a good feeling when you're out there hunting and
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: you already have your pet, your tag field, and you've
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: got you know, none of that like monkey on your shoulder.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Type pressure. It's all bonus from here. So that'll be
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: a nice relaxing sit when you get back out there
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: next time. All right, mark uh speaking of monkeys on backs. Yeah,
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: speaking of monkeys on backs and trying to relax. Oh man,
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: you want to talk like you know how I was
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: saying the definition. I was prepared to grind it out
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: and I had success early. You actually are grinding it
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: out right now. Yeah, it's it's talked to us. Yeah,
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: grinding That is exactly what it is. And um, it
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: started a lot earlier this year than most years for me.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: You know, usually my grind starts, you know, Halloween or
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: something like that. But you know, last time we actually
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: talked about my hunts that you know, I had that
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: encounter on the October where I got to folder on
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: holy Field, you know, and that whole thing kind of
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: set into motion my hunting marathon earlier than usual, because
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I started seeing holy Field daylight
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: all the time, and so I was like, well, I
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: saw him daylight last night, better hunt tomorrow. And I
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: saw him daylight that night, so I better hunt the
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: next day. So since October, I think I've only taken
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: two days off from hunting. Um, so I'm whooped, like,
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm tired. I'm I'm just leveling with you. I'm
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: just like, I'm exhausted right now. What is it, Tay's
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: November eight? Is that right? So since that time since
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: I've been after one deer and one deer only Mr Holyfield,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: and he continues to evade me. So you know, we
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: talked about it. Came full draw on him, but it
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: was just too dark. The next day he came into
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: the field but got spooked by something on the road
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: ran back in the cover. Um. The next day hunted
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: a different spot. I didn't see him. I went back in,
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: I saw him again. Um. I took two days off
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: because of warm weather, was back in there and saw
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: him again. Um, all right, I got a question. Yeah,
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: I know you we've talked about this a little bit,
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: but tell us where he where this buck is living,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: and and why maybe you're not able to get any
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: more cracks at him on on the property that you're
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: actually hunting. Yeah. Yeah, that's important for me to talk
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: about because I feel like everyone's like, how come you
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: don't just move and kill this buck every time you
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: see them? And then like gosh, I wish I could.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: So here's a situation. Imagine like like a like a
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: checkerboard or board, and you break it up into four
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: four squares, all right, the four quadrants. Okay, So the
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: line that runs right down the middle, that is my
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: property line. I've got the two quadrants on the left side.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: My neighbor has the two quadrants on the right side.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: So in the bottom left quadrant is the only cover
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: I have on my side of the property in this area.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: I've got that food plot I planted, and I've got
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: tall grass, and then a strip of timber behind me.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: Now adjacent to that on the neighbors side of the
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: line to the right. So the right bottom right quadrant
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: is some cover like some timber. The upper right quadrants
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: that would be the northeast quadrant that is this stellar bedding,
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: really tall grass, the brushy bushes. Don't know what they're called, um,
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: but just like tremendous. And then the top left quadrant
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: is my property. But it's just a cut bean field.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: It's a wide open bean field, and my property line
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: is on the edge of that bean field. I have
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: one tree on my side. Everything else is the neighbors.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: So where I see him all the time is in
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: the upper right quadrant in that really great bedding, and
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: from my tree stand in the bottom left quadrant, I
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: can see in there really well. So on night number one,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: I saw him in the right quadrant top right. He
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: came into the wide open bean field chase a dough.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: I've snort wheels to him. He came down into the
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: bottom left where I'm at. But you know what happened there.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: That's the only time he's come down to my quadrant
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: since that was October. All the other times I've seen
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: him back on the neighbors in that cover um, except
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: for one time November November three, he actually showed up
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: directly next to me in that bottom right quadrant in
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: the on the neighbors in the thick cover though at
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: sixty yards. That's the closest he's been to me recently.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: And he was just staring into the food plot and
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: there was two little button bucks that had just come out,
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: and so I was like, first of my crap as
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: he did he bust me. He's staring at me, and
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: like for like several minutes, he was just frozen, and
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: I just barely inched my binoculars up and it looked
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: at him, and he was looking straight ahead. He wasn't
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: like looking up at me. He was just looking into
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: the food plots. I think he was looking at those
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: two deer. And he just sat there for a couple
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: minutes and then turned and walked away. Now, so why
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: I can't move is because I've got one tree in
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: my food plot in the bottom left quadrant, and there's
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: one tree in the top left quadrant, but it's just
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: on this wide up and bean field right. So my
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: thought process was, all right, I've got a great set
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: up here in this food plot. Does are still coming
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: out to feed? I just needed him to come out
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: and following these doughs when these times and I'm seeing
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: him chasing does back in the cover. He chased the
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: dough once out into the open bean field at one time. Um,
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: and issue here is I can only hunt here with
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: like north northwest winds something like that, because if I
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: have anything that blows from the east or south, it
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: blows up into all that cover. So long story short,
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: I'm stuck with this spot and I see him all
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: the time, but he's on the neighbors back in this cover,
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: and I obviously can't hunt there. So long story short,
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: you know, I saw him multiple times. I saw him
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: the morning of and then the third was the time
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: when he was at sixty yards. I watched him then
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: go back into the upper right quadrant, run around, chase
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: some dose in there. Then he actually though did pop
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: out into the upper left quadron. He popped out into
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: my bean field at the very top northern border for
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: like ten yards and then walked into the north neighbor's property,
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: which was the cut cornfield. Um so that was the third.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: My issue was, I was at this point, I was, Okay,
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: I want to sit up in that one tree up
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: in that ud because there are a bunch of does
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: that are coming out to feed in there. And he
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: has popped out there once right by that tree, and
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: then October he popped out and then worked south one time,
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: came in my food plot one time, spoot something. Okay,
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: these are my only options. I've hunted the food plot
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: stand so many times, like the exact opposite of what
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: you've done. You've hunted only you know, everything once or twice,
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: and that's what I want to do. But I've kept
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: hunting this stupid stand because it's the only place I
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: can see him like he's nowhere else on my farm.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: I'm not getting trail camera pictures of him anywhere else.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: I'm not seeing him anywhere else. But every time I
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: go here, I'm seeing him. But you're seeing him on
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: the neighbor's farm, right, Yes, except for three times, three times,
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: three times he's come onto my farm, but just in
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: the edges of it. Um. I take that back. One
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: morning he was right in the middle of the field
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: running around. Um. And then earlier in October I had
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: seen him in front of my food plot. Um. But
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: most everything was on my neighbors. So my thought process
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: kept on me, Okay, this isn't a great situation. You've
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: hunted this stand so many darn times. You know, I'm
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: hunting a stupid field. It's not what I want to
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: be doing. But I don't have any better option on
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: this property, like I'm not. There's no other reason to
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: hunt anywhere or place else. If he's the only buck
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to kill, and if I don't think he's,
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: if he doesn't know him here yet, which I don't know, um,
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: maybe he'll follow a doe. So that was my thought process,
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: and that was kind of like kind of the news
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: I've hung myself on is that I've just stuck with
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: this one area because it's the only place I think
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: there's a small chance of him maybe making a stake
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: mistake and I could hunt it, and I knew he
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: wasn't winning me, and that the one thing that I
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: told you before is that I've convinced my wife to
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: come with the fore wheeler to this property and pick
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: me up every evening. Okay, so I'm not spooking these
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: deer as a person at all, And so I think
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: because of that, I'm still seeing a lot of activity
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: every single night. There's still deer feeding out in these fields.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: If he's still very close to my property or popping
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: into my property for brief periods of time. I think
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: that if I had been walking out of this area
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: even once or twice, I don't think that would still
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: be happening. But I think with her driving in there
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: and spooking these deer off with the a TV, they're
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: just so much more forgiving of that. So then day
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: of the November four I finally had a wind that
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: I could go hunt that tree stand up in the
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: top left quadrant, because again, like I said, anything westerly
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: blows into the bedding, so I had to wait till
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: it's something that would either be straight south so I
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: go straight at the edge or something easterly. So I
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: finally got that the night of the fourth I snuck in.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: I did a running gun set. It was an absolute disaster.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: I got to my tree well, so first it was
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: like it was a quiet It wasn't windy. It was
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: super crunching the leaves. I'm like, okay, how do I
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: get to this tree which is right on the edge
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: of betting. I mean, the tree is right on the
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: edge of the stuff. So I'm like, how do I
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: get in here without spooking deer there? Bed in there? Well,
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: luckily the neighbor was combining his fields, so I'm like, okay,
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: I am going to wait and I'm gonna time my
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: walk into the stand with when the combines nearby so
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: that they can't hear me. So I walked to the
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: edge of the field and I see the combine has
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: stopped and he's waiting to dump off his little corn.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, okay, I'm just gonna sit here and
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna wait. He'll be ready to go. Well half
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: hour passes and he still hasn't started going. So I'm like, well,
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: son of a gun, I need to get set up.
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: But luckily he gets going. So finally gets the combine going.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: I've wasted half an hour, but okay, I'm gonna make
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: sure I get in here quiet. I don't have a
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: good set up. I'm not going to spook dear. So
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: as the combine is getting close, I scurry in there.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: I get to the base of my tree. I'm like, okay,
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: nothing spooked. Nothing knew I was in here, at least
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: not that I think of the winds, great combines going by.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: Let me hang these sticks, yep. And I look at
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: my backpack and I realized I forgot to bring my
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: climbing sticks. Oh boy, oh boy. Mark. Yeah, so I
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: had like an aneurism, and I was at what in
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: the world, Like I am the biggest idiot in the world.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: I got so mad at myself. I was, okay, I'm
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: not like, I'm not gonna go all the way back home.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: So then again, we have to give props to my
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: blessed angel of a wife. I called her and said, hey, honey,
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: I know I don't deserve this, but can you do
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: me a favor, and I had her drive my climbing
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: sticks to the tree while the combine was nearby. Again,
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: so again hoping that you know, this vehicle coming up
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: to the edge of this field will be just like
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: another piece of farm equipment. So she drops off my
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: climbing sticks. I try to hang up in the tree.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: The first tree I tried to hung that I thought
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: I was gonna get hanged up in. I realized I
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: can't because there's two big trees that are grown together.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: So I didn't realize this. I can't get straps around it.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, well, son of a gun, so longs
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: for short because this could go on and on. It
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: was just a complete disaster. I tried to get up
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: in like this tree, and then I realized was one
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: other trick and maybe get into. So I tried to
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: get into that one. I couldn't get into that one
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: because it's kind of just a little cluster of trees
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: like right in this area. Um. And while I'm pulling
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: the sticks down from one tree, I look over. Here's
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: a big buck coming and it's Frasier three and a
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: half year old. Um. He walks within ten yards of me.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: I filmed it on my phone and then he kind
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: of realized something's wrong in boogers out of there, finally
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: getting a tree, and well, just you know, it was
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: a disaster. But I got in the tree for the
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: last hour of daylight and I saw Holy Field come
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: out of where I think he was betted. But he
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: walked by like a hundred yards still in the neighbors,
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: popped out around the other side of the field. The
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: combine starts back up, spooks him, disappears, and well that's
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: basically it. I went back again last night. I didn't
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: see him. Um, And that's you know, that's that I've
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: been hunting some different places in the mornings. This stand.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: This property just is not good for the rut unless
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: they're hitting my food. So I've got I've got one
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: chunk of timber that's like my sanctuary. So I just
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: it's a it's kind of a swamp and I just
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: never go in there. Um. Otherwise it's just field that's
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: kind of and um, you know, for whatever reason, they're
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: not in my food plots as heavy as they usually
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: are this time. I think it's because there's been no frost.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: We haven't got a frost yet. So they're not hitting
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: my braskas because they usually don't hit those till it's
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: cold and frosty. So you know, they've been hitting the
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: neighboring corn field and my bean fields and UM, I
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: don't know, it's been tough. I can't get in the
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: cover he has been that. I've been hoping, you know,
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: maybe he'll be cruising in the morning. Um, that hasn't happened.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: I've never seen them on the main body of my property,
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: just up in that one little corner. Um. The one
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: interesting thing that did happen to me is on our
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: last podcast where we were talking about um our rut
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: stands that we're looking forward to, there was one stand
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: I told you about this in the back side of
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: the swamp, on a little piece of of high ground
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: that runs between CRP and the neighbors and my little
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: swamp sanctuary. And I had set a stand on the
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: back side of right in that piece of high ground
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: that runs in the between, and I hunted that a
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: couple of days ago, and that was an awesome morning
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: and I actually saw two of the bucks that I
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: was considering shooting this year. Um that we're what I
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: believe to be three and a half year olds Frasier,
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: and then another buck I'm calling Foreman, and Uh. I
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: had both of them at ten yards, and I decided
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: to pass on both of them, um, because it's just
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: at this point, it's it's holy feeling. Nothing else is
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: getting me excited, Like I just want to kill this one.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: Dear so had really cool counters with them though, and
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: that was fun. And then I actually saw Foreman again
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: last night and I passed on him at ten yards,
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: and I saw him again this morning and I passed
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: on him about twenty So you know, I've it's been
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: great Michigan. Actually it's been really cool. Like I'm seeing
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: these bucks and like a lot of these nights, I've
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: seen holy Field, I've also seen Foreman. I've also seen Frasier.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: I've also seen this other buck I'm calling Mayweather. So
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: I'm seeing a bunch of NICs three and a half
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: year old bucks, more than I've ever seen. So Like,
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: even though I've hunted the same place over and over,
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: I'm seeing way more relatively mature deer and that's exciting
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: for the future for sure. Um, it's just been frustrating
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: because my hands have been tied trying to get on
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: this deer, and it's basically just been hoping to get
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: lucky hunting these fields and just hoping that maybe tonight
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: he makes a mistake and it hasn't happened. Okay, I
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: have a couple of questions. Yeah, I rambled there. Sorry, No,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: you're fine. Question one, calling at him? Have you grunted?
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: Have you snort wheezed? Have you done anything to try
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: to get him to come to you? Yes? Good question. Okay,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: So the very first time I saw him, I snort
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: wheezed and he came into the food plot, but he
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: was falling two doughs, so I don't know if he
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: was falling if he came in because of the caller
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: her cannon, because of the does So. Night number one,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: he responded to the call Night number two. I tried
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: grunting and he the only thing about this. I grunted
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: once or twice, and he looked with din Karen kept
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: walking by. I tried snort reis again and he kind
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: of just like turned and tried it away, So he
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: wasn't feeling at all. So I'm okay, I'm like, okay,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: I kind of blew it um. The next time I
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: tried calling to him was when he was at six,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: that sixty yard encounter when he was right next to me. Um,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: and okay, so I'd grunted at him and I snort
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: reased at him and it kinda he didn't like it
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: so much. So I was like, okay, I'm not gonna
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: try that. I'm gonna try doblate maybe. So I tried
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: the can call. He didn't care for that. He turned
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: and walked away. Another time I saw him pop out
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: a little ways off the one other time when he
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: popped out into my field north of me a couple
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: hundred yards, I was like, okay, I've tried all these
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: different things. He's not feeling it. But Dan Johnson told
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: me I need to try rattling, and even though I
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: don't like to rattle in Michigan, damn it, I just
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: need to try something. So I was like, I'm gonna
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: try a little light rattling maybe you know who knows.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: So I tried that. He looked and then turn and
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: walked straight back into the woods. So no call has worked. Um.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: I considered trying a decoy, but I've watched him around
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: other bucks and he's not like super aggressive with other bucks.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: And I don't have a good spot to hunt with
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: the decoy, like the food plot stand. He wouldn't be
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: able to see it until he's in the food plot
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: because I've got this tall food plut screen all around
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: it so you can't see in or out of it.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: So I could hunt that bean field edge with it.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: But the issue of that is that he needs to
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: come into the field to see it, And if that
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: ever happened, it would be with a bunch of doughs
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: out there and around here. I think if I put
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: that decoy out, I'd get blown at by all those
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: doughs before he'd ever pop out. And any deer that
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: came out would probably be surprised because they'd come right
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: out where they come out that all of a sudden
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: see this decoy ten yards away from him. So it's
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: not like they show up on the other side of
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: the field and you could see it. He could come
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: my way. So so yeah, I mean, calling hasn't worked.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: The decoy just doesn't seem like the smart move. Um
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: and here I am, yep. Well, it sounds to me
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: like two things are going to happen. Well, first off,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: when is Michigan's gun season start Novema. So that's a
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: week from today, and when people hear this, you will
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: already be on the road or have already hunted in Ohio,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: right yea. I'm leaving for Ohio tonight after the hunter
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: or after the podcast that we're recording right now. I
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: don't know. I was planning on hunting tonight because I
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: thought I could hunt that corner stand one more time,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: the new one I hung, because it was going to
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: be a west southwest wind, which would kind of cut
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: the edge a little bit. I thought it might be
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: able cut the corner, But now it shifted to a
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: northwest or west northwest, which just blows out the entire
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: bedding area, and some like I just can't, Like, there's
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: just no way that will work. If it was southwest,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: there was a small chance I could work with anything northwest,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: just like there's I can't even get in there without
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: everything smelling me um. So I can hunt the food plot, fine,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: but that will be like the bajillion time of hunted there,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: and that seems like low odds now, And so I
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: don't know. Part of me says I should hunt just
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: because you never know. Part of me says that I
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: should just get to Ohio and get a good night's
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: sleep so I can try to turn the page and
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: trying to make the best of this rut. Still, I
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: think you should hunt tonight. I think you should hunt
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: Michigan and be as aggressive as you possibly can, knowing
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: that there's there's a period of time between now and
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: the time that the gun season starts. So I know,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: you remember how Jim Shocky talked about pressure on a
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: deer like ripples on a pond. Eventually they go away
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: and everything becomes normal again. I think that if you're
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: aggressive tonight and you potentially spook him, you know, like
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: you're gonna spook him or you're gonna kill him type ods. Right,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: So let's say you spook him, by the time the
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: gun season starts, he's going to be back to his
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: normal routine, and there's that chance that he's still working
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: his way on your property. So and by that time
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: you're gone anyway, and then by the time you come back,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: you know, the rut could be over. It could be
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: that post rut where they're looking for that last dough,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: or you know, anything could happen between now and then. Yeah,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: So I'm my I don't know about you. But I'm
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: that kind of person who's like, I'm gonna be knowing
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: what I know and knowing that you're going to leave
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: for Ohio in a in a day or two, be
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: aggressive and if you fail, you tried. Yeah, you know.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: It's funny you mentioned that because I have been sitting
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: here thinking about the same thing too, and like I
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: don't want to sound like, um, well, let's just be
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: a well, I don't want to sound like a winner,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: but I want to kill this buck to be selfish.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: I want to be the person to kill this buck,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: and I almost want to spook him because if he
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: keeps acting like he's acting right now, as soon as
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: my neighbor or one of these guys goes in there
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: and gun season, he's dead. Like he's so killable, Like
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: if I could hunt this stupid property, he would be
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: so dead right now with a bow, I believe. So
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: let alone when these guys start going on there with guns,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: so I almost, you know, maybe it's not a batty
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: to hunt there tonight, knowing that probably chance I will
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: blow out any deer in there and he will probably
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: smell me. But maybe that's what they need to do
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: to smarten this deer up a little bit, and then
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: by the time I come back and try hunting him
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: again later in November, he'll love you know. You know,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: that's the thing I'm worried about, is he's gonna get killed.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: But if he doesn't get killed, maybe then I do
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: feel good. If he survives gun season. I feel very
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: good about my late season chances because I have by
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: far the best late season food I've got two really good,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: great big Braska food plots that are lush and huge,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: and they haven't really been touched very much yet because
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: of the fact we haven't got a frost, so I
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: gotta believe as soon as we get cold weather, they're
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: just gonna hit them so hard. And last year I
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: had him Montreal camera during daylight in December on my
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: late season food plot ten times in daylight. So so
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: if I can get this buck through gun season, I
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: think he's very killable in the late season. So that's
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: my one silver lining. So maybe I should just be
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: aggressive tonight, maybe just going there and it's it's it's
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: a rattle for four straight out. Give him a fair
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: warning before the Orange Pumpkin Brigade comes in. That's right, Yeah,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe You're right. I know that if I
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: was planning a hunting the night, but then just this afternoon,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: like when I was coming in to do this, I
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: was like, man, tonight, the drive's gonna suck tonight, and
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna get in it like midnight. I'm gonna four
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: hours of sleep. But I know, I knew i'd feel
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: bad about not trying. Still, does this make you feel better? Mark,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: I'm going to work tomorrow, so how about you stop winding? Yeah,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: that's a good point. It's a very good I'll tell
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: you what. I'll go to Ohio and you can sit
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: in my cubicle. Okay, point well taken, Point well taken.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: So all right, I'm gonna go in there and set again,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna try to kill him, and if I did,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: like I might cry, I'm gonna be so happy. Call me,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: call me and I'll say, Okay, stop being a baby
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: for a second and thank me, and just say thanks Dan,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: because you told me to rattle when I thought I
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: should know for for four for an hour, just I mean,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: get get two decoys out there, have your wife dressed
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: up as a deer. I have her bite that decoy,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: and just rattle and rattling, rara, snort, we'se the entire time.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: He's gonna come out purely just based on like insatiable curiosity,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: Like he just has to see what's going on over here.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: You know I've got enough to see it. You kill
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: him right, doing something so stupid like I rattled and snort,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: reason and grunted and rattled some more, which nobody ever does.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: And he comes in that night and you kill him.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: And then I can see some article written by Mark
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: Kenyon how I conquered the rut by actually give an
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: advice to people. You know it was. It was nothing
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: but my my genius strategy of very specific calling tactics.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: Oh gosh, yeah, I don't know, man, I guess you know,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: we'll see who knows. You never know. Um, So that's
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: my story. That's been my run. I'll tell you good luck,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. You know, I had one other thing
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: that's worth mentioning. On one of the hot days we had,
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  Speaker 1: like a seventy degree seventy degree day that I didn't
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  Speaker 1: want to hunt here, I went to one of those
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  Speaker 1: other farms of hunting, and I ended up having a
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  Speaker 1: really close call there too. Um. You probably saw on
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  Speaker 1: social media. Maybe we talked about on text. But at
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  Speaker 1: ten o'clock I spotted a shooter bock back in this
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  Speaker 1: big timber I was hunting, and I watched him for
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  Speaker 1: four hours, locked on a door. He betted at a hundred.
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  Speaker 1: Then I watched him get up and stalk around, and
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  Speaker 1: then betted down again and stalked around. I tried calling
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  Speaker 1: to him a couple of times, and he wouldn't come
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  Speaker 1: my way. And then finally, like one thirty year, between
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  Speaker 1: one thirty and two, the dough got up and she
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  Speaker 1: came my way. She passed a fifty through my shooting land.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, I can do that. If he
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  Speaker 1: passes right through there, this is game over. But he
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  Speaker 1: hung back like twenty yards further back or thirty yards
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  Speaker 1: further back, and he passed the seventy seven yards um.
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  Speaker 1: And he was a four and a half year old
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  Speaker 1: buck for sure, like just a really solid, big, nice
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  Speaker 1: eight pointer. Ah. So that was a cool encounter for
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  Speaker 1: like a seventy of your day. I wasn't really expecting much, um,
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  Speaker 1: And that just goes to show you that you never
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  Speaker 1: know during the rut. So it's the rut. Yeah, you
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  Speaker 1: gotta give it a shot, and they're gonna rut because
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: anything can happen, right throw try throwing hill Mary's if
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  Speaker 1: it's you know, like I'm telling people out there, no, hey,
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  Speaker 1: what about this. I only have one day left to
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  Speaker 1: hunt or my vacation or I have you gotta do
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  Speaker 1: whatever you can. Tear your tree, stand down, go go
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  Speaker 1: dive into that bedding area down wind, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: if you see him and he's walking away from you,
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  Speaker 1: run at him. If he doesn't respond to a grunt, snort,
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  Speaker 1: weeez at him, if he doesn't snort, if he doesn't
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  Speaker 1: respond to that rattle at him. I mean, what do
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  Speaker 1: you have to lose? Yeah, if you're if you're down
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  Speaker 1: to the end of your trip, or if you don't
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  Speaker 1: get to hunt a bunch more or whatever, I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta go out swinging. Right So there,
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  Speaker 1: get pays to be safe and conservative and smart, but
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  Speaker 1: only to a point, you know, like if your opportunities
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  Speaker 1: they're not gonna be there anymore after this, then go
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  Speaker 1: for it. So so that's kind of where I'm at
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  Speaker 1: in Michigan for the time being. So I guess on swing, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: swing for it, all right? Well, any other final thoughts
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  Speaker 1: from you just you know, all the people who are
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  Speaker 1: out there grinding, man, good luck and you know, be
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  Speaker 1: safe and man, I don't know. I think I can
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  Speaker 1: speak for Mark when I say we we really hope
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  Speaker 1: as many of the listeners out there are as successful
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  Speaker 1: as humanly possible. Unless you share the same de farmancy
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  Speaker 1: as Yes, I gotta tell you that it's been super cool,
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  Speaker 1: Like we've been getting a lot of tweets and Facebook
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  Speaker 1: messages and stuff with people thanking you and me um
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: for the podcast, but because you know, help them in
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  Speaker 1: some way kill this book or the biggest book or
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: or stuff like that. And that's that's really cool to see,
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  Speaker 1: so very very exciting to see that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: So I agree, good luck to everyone out there. And um,
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  Speaker 1: I guess as we do. I'm just gonna shut her down.
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  Speaker 1: We do need to thank our partners who help us
• 1:12:29
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• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: that's every one. And I guess then finally, yes, thank
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  Speaker 1: you all Ford listening for tuning in for for kind
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  Speaker 1: of joining us as we kind of share all of
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: our ups and downs here during the rut. We'll have
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  Speaker 1: a new guest on here soon, so enough of me
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: and Dan blabbing and until next time, good luck, luck,
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