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NFL Week 9 MNF Showdown | Buccaneers @ Chiefs | DraftKings DFS Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: What's going on?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I saw my buddy sent me up, so I had
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  Speaker 3: to go in the comments and I was scrolling through.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there was all the way from politics to
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  Speaker 3: trying out for the bucks to find a double d.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah I was. I mean I was out
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  Speaker 3: enjoyed the weekend with the wife. It was our one year,
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  Speaker 3: so I got out, went out north little bit and
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  Speaker 3: the mountains, enjoyed some beautiful weather.
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  Speaker 2: It was actually Chili, but it was beautiful out there.
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  Speaker 3: Stepped away from football a bit, but I mean I
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  Speaker 3: was still in the streets on Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: I still played some MMA. I just wasn't able to
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  Speaker 2: watch as much.
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  Speaker 3: But simon be back for I mean NBA's today, I
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  Speaker 3: mean every single game going on. The fifteen minutes stay
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  Speaker 3: duram time. Good luck if you're out there, enjoy that
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  Speaker 3: football lot easier though. I'll be more focused on the
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  Speaker 3: foot fall streets because I can give my lineups in
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  Speaker 3: and not worry about late swapping every fifteen minutes.
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  Speaker 2: But big boy, spread some weather the chiefs. Hey money
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  Speaker 2: to be.
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  Speaker 1: Made though always Yeah, happy one year to you and
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  Speaker 1: the wife. You got a great lady over there, good
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  Speaker 1: support system.
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  Speaker 2: I know that.
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  Speaker 1: Happy you could get away and enjoy the weekend. Man hoopster,
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  Speaker 1: bring you in another another weekend of close calls. I
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  Speaker 1: How you doing?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, another solid weekend for the Ship and Nation crew,
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  Speaker 4: which you did love to see. Had some you know,
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  Speaker 4: good calls yesterday, some very close calls. I know you
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  Speaker 4: had a couple of close calls. I did as well.
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  Speaker 4: At a team kind of in the top fifty of
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  Speaker 4: the Millie had a little bit of a chance there,
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  Speaker 4: but you know, fell short.
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  Speaker 2: That's the name of the game. He bounced back and
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  Speaker 2: got a slate tonight.
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  Speaker 4: You know it's you know, Chiefs are favored by nine
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  Speaker 4: against the Bugs. Whenever I see this box, man, I
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  Speaker 4: just think back to that game where Mike Evans could
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  Speaker 4: barely walk. They roll his ass out there. He gets hurt,
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  Speaker 4: and then they have like a less than a one
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  Speaker 4: percent chance of winning the game and they're still throwing
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  Speaker 4: like slants to Chris Godwin and he gets hurt and
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  Speaker 4: they're in contention too at the time. At the time
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  Speaker 4: they're what like four and two. Just so stupid, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: just so so dumb, and yeah, now they find themselves
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  Speaker 4: as you know, a touchdown and a field goal underdog
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  Speaker 4: against the Chiefs. And you know, also thinking about the
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  Speaker 4: Chiefs side a little bit today and kind of looking at,
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  Speaker 4: you know, the two best teams in the NFL, the
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  Speaker 4: Chiefs and the Lions. What's the one thing that they
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  Speaker 4: really have in common? And they are very fine good
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  Speaker 4: with winning nasty, ugly, grinded out games, both of these teams,
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  Speaker 4: and they're by far the two best in my opinion,
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  Speaker 4: in the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: And we've seen it with the Chiefs all season.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, Patrick Mahomes is having a bad season
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  Speaker 4: and all this.
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  Speaker 2: And all that.
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  Speaker 4: But guess what, you know, all those people talking about
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  Speaker 4: Mahomes come playoff time, they would take him over their quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: And that is still the case. So for fantasy, it's
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  Speaker 4: a little bit different. We'll go through and we'll dive in,
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  Speaker 4: but I guess the over arching point of this ramble
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  Speaker 4: is they'll win an ugly game. We've seen it. They'll
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  Speaker 4: give it to Hunt as many times as it takes
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  Speaker 4: to win. And I think we could definitely see that
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  Speaker 4: tonight where they're at home, favored by you know, nine,
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  Speaker 4: nine and a half, ten points.
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  Speaker 1: Man love to see it. The hoopster is absolutely fired
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  Speaker 1: up today. He would even take them over his quarterback
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  Speaker 1: come playoff time. I thought you were gonna say. I
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  Speaker 1: thought we're gonna say good coaching because both teams have
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  Speaker 1: really good coaching and that too.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, And you know that plays into it. I
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  Speaker 4: mean they understand it. It's like, man, this is a
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  Speaker 4: grind and if you can you can buy winning these
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  Speaker 4: ugly games, you're limiting potential, injury risk and all that
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  Speaker 4: to your players, like they know what's up. And yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I would take my homes over golf in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 4: There's no doubt about.
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  Speaker 1: That, especially in the playoffs. But I think that's a
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  Speaker 1: good point you brought up. And we've had this conversation
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  Speaker 1: that does relate to fantasy throughout this season on main
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  Speaker 1: slates where some of the scoring is down and all
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  Speaker 1: that stuff. But I think it's because a lot of
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  Speaker 1: the coaches are adapting to that. I'm just let's just
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  Speaker 1: you see the Cincinnati Bengals, they run the fastest quarters
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  Speaker 1: in all of football now because they don't do anything
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  Speaker 1: that goes out of bounce. It's running or its short
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  Speaker 1: passes over the middle, or if they can gain chunk heritage, great,
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  Speaker 1: but it just move it because the closer that score stays,
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  Speaker 1: the closer they have to pull it off at the end.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that was an interesting one. Certainly the
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  Speaker 1: Broncos tried that yesterday. It did not work out. I'm
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  Speaker 1: still waiting for Aaron Rasmus in the chat to come
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  Speaker 1: in here.
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  Speaker 2: And that is one call that we absolutely nailed on
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  Speaker 2: the show.
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  Speaker 4: We're gonna just one reality check for the Broncos, and man,
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  Speaker 4: did they punch them directly in the fucking schnazz.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I love that. So I will say I'm gonna bring
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  Speaker 1: up the stone for this. I always tell people off
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  Speaker 1: the top what I think. You guys will have to
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  Speaker 1: talk me into this one. I actually like Chief Slates generally.
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  Speaker 1: I think they're interesting. I think there's more to them,
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  Speaker 1: lots of different ways you can go. I kind of
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  Speaker 1: like one factor about this one. Just it's that Mahomes
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  Speaker 1: is gonna be extremely high owned. So we'll get there
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  Speaker 1: when we get there. But I will say the way
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  Speaker 1: the Bucks are, the injuries, all that stuff, everything that's
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  Speaker 1: going with it, it does seem like one of those
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  Speaker 1: you know the problem I have. I guess maybe it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't seem like that, but it's gonna be heavy four
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  Speaker 1: to two and even heavier than we usually see five
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  Speaker 1: to one chiefs builds. And so the problem is that
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  Speaker 1: those actually get there, it's just gonna be chopped up
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  Speaker 1: a ton of different ways most likely. So I'm a title.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have a grand scheme overview for me on
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  Speaker 1: how you're seeing it, because that's that's all I do
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  Speaker 1: right now so far, and it doesn't excite no.
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  Speaker 2: I see it the same way. I think it's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of four to two chiefs.
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  Speaker 3: I think five to one, like you said, will be
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  Speaker 3: more popular than we usually see. The one very important
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  Speaker 3: part is like weather. People do like to hear weather.
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  Speaker 3: Rock tweeted earlier. I'm looking yellow orange right now, is
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  Speaker 3: what he said. There is scattered downpours throughout, but there
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  Speaker 3: will be time that he does not expect any rain.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, when it is pouring, just expect the chiefs
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  Speaker 3: to hand the ball off to cream Hunt a million times,
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  Speaker 3: to throw it to Kelsey in the flat, et cetera.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, looking at the ownership initially, what's set out
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  Speaker 3: to me mahomes pretty much twenty three percent in the captain.
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  Speaker 3: That's a big boy number up there for someone that
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  Speaker 3: notoriously has not I've been a good DFS player because
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  Speaker 3: he's fine. They're fine running with Hunt four times, short passes,
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  Speaker 3: just getting other guys involved. Now, you always talked about
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  Speaker 3: quarterbacks when you do play in captain, you want him
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  Speaker 3: to be able to spread it out.
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  Speaker 2: Mahomes obviously does not care who he throws to, so
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  Speaker 2: you do have that going for you.
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  Speaker 3: But usually you're making a case for a quarterback captain
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  Speaker 3: at eight percent nine percent not the highest on the
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  Speaker 3: slate at twenty three percent, So I'm hoping. I'm expecting
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  Speaker 3: to get away myself at least underweight Baker. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I think he's fine. I guess too, But I'm gonna
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  Speaker 3: be more skill position players on both sides captain as well.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm with you, tam Well, I don't love the slate.
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  Speaker 3: You don't have to play the same volume every single slate.
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  Speaker 3: We'll have plenty more showdowns to.
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  Speaker 1: Come great point, I actually love that for all process standpoint.
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  Speaker 1: That's another thing people say, Oh, you're scared of it,
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  Speaker 1: or oh it's just it's another chance to make money.
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  Speaker 1: All this. I do agree with all that, and I'll
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  Speaker 1: be playing the slate is just if you don't love
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  Speaker 1: it as much, and I may like it even more
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  Speaker 1: after we get off the show and break it all down.
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  Speaker 1: That's typically how it goes. But you are allowed to
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  Speaker 1: adjust your volume. If you're one hundred dollars a week player.
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  Speaker 1: Nothing says you just have to play the one hundred
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  Speaker 1: dollars single entry every single week. That's that's your call.
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  Speaker 1: But if you like a slate, should push it in
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more. You get a better hand in poker,
• 8:06
  Speaker 1: you might push it in a little more pre flop
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  Speaker 1: if you like it that way. It's kind of gotta
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  Speaker 1: scale your stuff that way. I don't know who. One
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  Speaker 1: thing I want to kick to you and ask, is
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  Speaker 1: this have I've been reading and stuff all day, had
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  Speaker 1: other shows, stuff like that, working on things. But I
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  Speaker 1: don't see anybody that's actually excited about this Mahomes ownership number.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone says off, that's the case. I'm gonna be playing
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  Speaker 1: half the field, or I'm gonna be underweight, or I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna be all this. The weather's involved all this.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if this number will sit anywhere near
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  Speaker 1: twenty three when we get to Locke, only because I
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  Speaker 1: think people will feel better about Kareem Hunt. They'll play
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  Speaker 1: some Kelsey, they'll get some Katot and up Top.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I just feel like it could could separate and come
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  Speaker 1: together a little bit more with that Kareem Hunt ownership projection.
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  Speaker 1: What's your thoughts on that and anything else you've got
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  Speaker 1: for this slate?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, kind of it's tough, just because it's like, all right,
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  Speaker 4: so you don't want to go mahomes and totally get
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  Speaker 4: it and everyone has.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not excited about it either.
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  Speaker 4: You're not excited, titles not excited, The chat's not excited,
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  Speaker 4: like you said, everyone's like not excited. But you go
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  Speaker 4: and build teams and he just shows up there like
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  Speaker 4: I did the dry run on the ship to mys
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  Speaker 4: as you were talking, shows up forty one percent without
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  Speaker 4: changing anything. The other problem is like, who are the
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  Speaker 4: next guys you go to them? We'll obviously get into
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  Speaker 4: it as we go. People are gonna feel fine with Hunt,
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  Speaker 4: people probably feel fine with Kelsey, but they're not going
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  Speaker 4: to be excited to play the chiefs past catchers up
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  Speaker 4: top like DeAndre Hopkins. What sort of workload is he
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  Speaker 4: going to have. The title always talks about the props.
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  Speaker 4: The props are not juicy on DeAndre Hopkins, like forty
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  Speaker 4: yards or something Xavier worthy.
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  Speaker 2: It's like one big play. Is that good enough to
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  Speaker 2: go into the Captain?
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  Speaker 4: So at the end of the day, I think people
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  Speaker 4: do end up just settling in on ma Homes. Hope
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  Speaker 4: it's a rob point slate, which it very well could be.
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  Speaker 4: I know people are in Chelly's only broke twenty two
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  Speaker 4: fantasy points, like twice whatever in the last twenty but
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  Speaker 4: this is late. Honestly, you look at it where eighteen
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  Speaker 4: could be good enough, eighteen could be the optimal captain,
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  Speaker 4: and they didn't do as any favors with the pricing.
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  Speaker 4: It's you know that the most expensive person on the
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  Speaker 4: slate is Mahomes at ten k, so it's very easy
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  Speaker 4: to get him in there, and you know, it's just
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  Speaker 4: hard to make the case for other guys. So I
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  Speaker 4: do think it holds probably around Maybe it's you know,
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  Speaker 4: between eighteen and twenty two. It's not like a hot
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  Speaker 4: take or anything, but it's probably somewhere around there. Just
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  Speaker 4: because of the lack of other options and a lot
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  Speaker 4: of people the ease of getting them in there, and
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  Speaker 4: a lot of people, you know, just kind of playing
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  Speaker 4: like the raw points sort of thing where eighteen to
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  Speaker 4: twenty could be good enough, but it's a tough slate,
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  Speaker 4: it really isn't.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a very very good point where it's like.
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  Speaker 4: If you don't have something you love here, like you
• 10:40
  Speaker 4: don't need to play the same volume. Like you can
• 10:42
  Speaker 4: scale back a little bit, play different contest. If you're
• 10:45
  Speaker 4: a three entry person and you're not loving it, go
• 10:48
  Speaker 4: down to single entry. If you're a one fifty you're
• 10:50
  Speaker 4: not loving it, go down to twenty max. You know,
• 10:52
  Speaker 4: you don't have to play the same every slate if
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  Speaker 4: you don't love it. And this is a very challenging slate,
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  Speaker 4: I will say, I mean, and we'll talk through it
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  Speaker 4: and again a lot of times when I have these
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  Speaker 4: opinions and come on the show, talk through with you guys,
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  Speaker 4: you know, pick up on some good comments in the chat,
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  Speaker 4: I kind of change my mindset. I'm feeling a little better.
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  Speaker 4: So I hope that is the case today. And it's
• 11:10
  Speaker 4: happened to time where I come on here, don't love it,
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  Speaker 4: talk to you guys, interact with the chat a little
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  Speaker 4: bit and then feel a little bit better, so we'll
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  Speaker 4: see where we're at at the end of the show.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of what I'm thinking as well. And Lee,
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  Speaker 1: we're talking about captain not flex. If I you know,
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  Speaker 1: no matter what you're doing today, Mahomes is getting played.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking about will he actually end up twenty three
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  Speaker 1: in the Captain And again, you don't have to fade either.
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  Speaker 1: You could play ten to fifteen percent. I'm just wondering
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  Speaker 1: if you do that. If you do that, then he
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  Speaker 1: does ends up coming in at fifteen. You're just at
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  Speaker 1: the field, and again, hopefully you build differently like me,
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  Speaker 1: I'm certainly gonna be doing it that way, but all
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  Speaker 1: have a tonnel lineups where Mahomes is in the flex
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  Speaker 1: and just do it differently there. I also hope that
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  Speaker 1: you know I'm just gonna play this way title and
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  Speaker 1: I'll kick it to you to start things off with
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  Speaker 1: the captain thoughts. I will probably play more lineups that
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: are over the field, I guess of what I expected
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  Speaker 1: to be of like bucks four, two, three threes, just
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  Speaker 1: in general, just because just hope that because it again
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: we'll see these injuries. I guess I'll get your take
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  Speaker 1: on that too, But like Bucky sounds like he'll be
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: playing with that tow whatever it is throughout the season,
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  Speaker 1: so I feel like he's okay. McMillan, I actually think
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  Speaker 1: is gonna be fine. It's Shepherd, I guess is the
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  Speaker 1: one I'd be most worried about. But I actually think
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: they all play as of now. It's at least what
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  Speaker 1: I think. But just to note, I think that's kind
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  Speaker 1: of at least those are some cheaper guys that you
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  Speaker 1: can fit in with Baker and you could have like
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: a three to three and if it, even if it
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  Speaker 1: goes under or over, you're getting kind of the best
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  Speaker 1: pieces from both sides. You just will have to skip
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  Speaker 1: on Mahomes and the Captain in those lineups for the
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  Speaker 1: most part. There's ways that you can build it, mixing
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  Speaker 1: in the Noah Grays things like that. But just in general,
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  Speaker 1: I certainly think it's interesting, especially if we get a
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  Speaker 1: slub fest on the ground back and forth. What do
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  Speaker 1: you think of in the captain spot title?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I guess if Mahomes is fifteen percent, I
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  Speaker 3: mean that's like eight ten percent less than projected across
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  Speaker 3: the industry.
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  Speaker 2: Really I would have more interest there.
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  Speaker 3: I think I'm probably gonna have one hundred percent Mahomes
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  Speaker 3: whether it's Captain or Flex, just because who mentioned the
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  Speaker 3: ten k price.
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  Speaker 2: Egg is absolutely ridiculous, especially on the slate.
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  Speaker 3: I do think ross scoring is really important, So if
• 13:04
  Speaker 3: you fade Mahomes in either spot, you can eat a
• 13:07
  Speaker 3: lot more chalk, you can leave less money on the table.
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  Speaker 3: I prefer today to leave more money. Probably play Mahomes everywhere,
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  Speaker 3: more so in the Flex. Captain's tough, though, and you
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  Speaker 3: guys can definitely talk me into sum. I know running
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  Speaker 3: back wise, I have interest obviously Kareem Hunt for obvious reasons,
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  Speaker 3: eight and n point favorites at home, bad weather minus
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  Speaker 3: two hundred to score. Everything is looking good for cream
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  Speaker 3: other side with Rashad White. Rashon White and Bucky Irving
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  Speaker 3: are in play right now. It seems like Rashon White
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  Speaker 3: is more in play when they're trailing as the better
• 13:39
  Speaker 3: pass catcher, and it seems like they want to work
• 13:41
  Speaker 3: Bucky more when they're leading or in close games. Again,
• 13:44
  Speaker 3: I still expect those two to split pretty heavily. Last
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: week fifty six percent with Shad White forty two Bucky
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: ten percent Sean Tucker.
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna hope it's something similar to that.
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: I do prefer White today because I think they will
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: be trailing now. If you're gonna go four to two
• 14:00
  Speaker 3: Bucks or something, or you think Buccaneers win this game,
• 14:03
  Speaker 3: Bucky Irving.
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: Is a by far better play than Rashad White.
• 14:07
  Speaker 3: I do think the ownership gap might even be wider
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: between those two because I think everyone is thinking the
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: same thing. I'm thinking we're shot White Bucky if they're leading.
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: Obviously people think the Chiefs are gonna win this game.
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: So I will be playing from Rashad White captain because
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: I think they're gonna be trailing this. Chiefs defense is great,
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: their offense doesn't make mistakes. Bucky I'm indifferent to right now. Again,
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: if I do build that, I'm gonna tell the story
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: probably four to two Buccaneers three to three at worse,
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: and I'm gonna build that for a competitive game or
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: Buccaneers win receivers. I'm definitely playing Worthy. He's my favorite
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: captain if I had to pick, just because the dude
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: can take a seventy yard screen pass to the house
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: or just he runs a four to four just right
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: by the defense. Again not the weather game that you're
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: really expecting too many big plays, but we do talk
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: about it like rain means that the defenders when they're
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: trying to cut receivers know what routes are running. Defenders
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: don't know. They also have to play in bad field conditions,
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: et cetera. Sometimes you do actually get the offense benefiting
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: with the rain because they know where they're running.
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: Defenses don't worthy looks expensive.
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: Gonna keep me seeing showing five percent six percent of Captain.
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: He has an upside to break this late, so I'm
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: definitely gonna be playing some of him. Outside of that
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: Kelsey for sure. Kelsey's props great. Who's sucking props sixty
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: one and a half for Kelsey's really good? The next
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: highest hotten. Both tight ends look really good on this
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: lates On's expensive, though man rightfully so. He was Baker's
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: number one target eighty four compared to Kelsey at eighty
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: eight hundred. Though I do much prefer Kelsey on, I
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: don't know if I'm gonna get all the way up
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: in Captain. I think I prefer the McMillan's of the world,
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: even Trey Palmer, but I don't love them at Captain either.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: So to round it out, my favorite by far Kareem
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: Hunts Rashad White's one of my favorites at Ownership. I
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: love worthy and I do love both tight ends. After that,
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: probably only gonna be six seven for me right now,
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: unless you guys talk the sun ounce.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like the the one thing that whether okay,
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: let me say this way, Patrick Holmes, if he gets
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: there or not. I think he actually gets there. And Hoop.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you remember, but when you do
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: the build settings on the dry run, you have to
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: turn off the randomness because now I am gonna lean
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: with what you said before. When I do that and
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: go just a dryer on, it gives you almost ninety
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: percent Mahomes in the Captain Like, there's no randomness. It's
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: just jamming him no matter what because there's so many
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: ways to fix to put him in there. It loves
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: Baker in the flex, Kareem Hunt in the flex, Hopkins Kelsey.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: So these are the guys that I'm gonna look to
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: leverage with, and I think that's the best part title is,
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: you know, just I'll go to Hoop here in a second.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: But like to everything you just said if we already now,
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: I actually think Mahomes will come in closer to that number.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: Maybe it just like Hoop said from the start, it's
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: just gonna happen. Well, we kind of know exactly how
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: to leverage him, right. You can use Hunt, Kelsey Worthy,
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: even Hopkins from that side, you use Baker and one
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: of the running backs on the other side, maybe McMillen.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Even if you ran eight captains and included Mahomes in
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: there at a really underweight stance, you can still get
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: away with it. You'd have a ton of leverage on
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: those other spots. So I guess that would change my
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: opinion a little bit about the slate because I think again, obviously,
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: if Mahomes hits and it's a five to one or
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: a four to two or something like that, it's gonna
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: be super chopped up. But I do like going that
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: other angle, Hoop. I guess I'll kick it to you
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: now that you see this. I don't know if you
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: see anything else here, but like Trey Palmer gets a
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: little love, Noah Gray kind of fair numbers on them.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you see anything in the flex
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: that you don't like, but it's given a ton of Mahomes.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: I think you had it nailed right out of the gate.
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's just going to naturally do it.
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: The price and the projection, Like I've just looking around,
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: like everyone has Mahomes at a number in terms of
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: his projection that he really hasn't hit this season. And
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: it's not just us. What's our exact number? I have
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: twenty point set, like, so everyone has Mahomes with this
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: big number. He hasn't hit twenty this year in terms
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: of fantasy points. So unless you adjust that down, you're
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: just gonna get the guy in a lot of teams
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: and it's just naturally going to happen. And then you
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: go in and make the case, which I'm struggling to
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: make the case for other captains that I want to play.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: So for me personally, again, all my content will will
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: go up. You know, shortly after the show. It's probably
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: gonna be pretty tight for me at the captain position
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: and there's only a few guys like I am going
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: to play some Mahomes, definitely playing Hunt, Definitely playing Kelsey,
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: and that's probably it on the on the chief side,
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: I mean, the best way for me, in my eyes
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: to leverage off Mahomes captain teams is just to play
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: Kareem Hunt up there, and then you get the hope
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: for the Kareem Hunt two touchdown game, which.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Is in a game like this is very viable.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, we see what they're willing to do with him,
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: like they want him to grind out these games, grind
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: out the wins, and then there's a little bit of
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: pass catching up so we haven't seen a ton of it,
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: but we know he can catch passes too. So I
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: like those three on the Chief side and then my
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: favorite on the Bucks side by far as kate Ot
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: And I do like the price tag being up there
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: at eight four because people are gonna look at that.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: It's like eight to four for Atten. He's four hundred
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: dollars cheaper than Kelsey if you play him in the
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: Captain Kelsey's only six hundred dollars more. I like the
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: fact that they got Kaitott not there. He's kind of
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: wide receiver number one. We've seen what they they what
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: they'll do with him when they're down by a lot,
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: They'll just feed him a ton and like he's almost
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: like in the Chris Godwin short of role. Obviously, He's
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: a tight end and lining up in different spots but
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: similar routes over the middle of.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: The field, like he could eat in a game that
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: they're trailing.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: And the one nice thing about him is the reason
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: that the Tampa Bay's in this situation because they play
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: their guys all the way through the end, even if
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: they're getting their ass kicked.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: So that's good for a guy like Aughton Atten.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: And then Baker's the one I need to decide on,
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: Like we always default to our guy Tambo here for
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: the quarterback stuff, not soul.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: I'm going Baker captain.
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: But I like Cade, I like Travis Kelcey, I like Hunt,
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: and I like Mahomes. Could just be four or five
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: for me tonight and then just just obviously get way
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: more combinations of those guys. So that's kind of my
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: thoughts at the captain position.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: I'm a head on a bunch of things. I thought
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: you had really good.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: I think this is just like a matchup, man, It's
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: just a matchup, and this is like someone talked about it.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: It's a really good matchup for them.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: And that's why right on the stone, yeah plus yeah, yeah,
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: to be honest with me, the twenty point seven is
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: relatively low compared to the rest of the industry. So
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: the industry hasn't even.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Higher than that.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's how it works. Someone talks like the
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: props are based off some of that stuff too. That
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: then lead to that and how everyone has a different
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: component of how they do it, the way they make
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: their secret sauce or whatever. But my point would be
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: the matchup does matter. It's not everything. We can call
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: a game for bon Nicks that's gonna be good or bad.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: We can call a game for Trevor Lawrence it's gonna
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: be good or bad. Like they don't have good games
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: very often, but they will in certain matchups. Now, some
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: of the the changes that you can do this, I'm
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: gonna go back here for a second, close up my exposures.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: This is the nice thing about something like shipdeviizer. I
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: can go in under user projection.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: Here.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Let me go back to it overright, the projected points.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: I drop mahomes down to fifteen, I bump kareem Hunt
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: up to nineteen point five. It's not built in to
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: do it manually yet or do it automatically yet. So
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: I did it manually and I just gave a one
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: and a half X to each of them, but now
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: it overrides when I run it. So now check out
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: this dry run. No secret on who's gonna pop up most,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: because we gave it all to Kareem Hunt, but now
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: it wants to give me seventy six percent Kareem Hunt.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: It still wants Baker, which is I do like Baker anyway.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: I'll get to more of that in a second. But
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: he still pops up. It spreads it out a little more,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: but it also it mostly wants no Mahomes, which tells
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: you everything to do with it, as usual is projection based,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: and that's why we always talk about the projections are
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: a piece of the puzzle. Right, if you got something
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: different that you're going up against them with, clearly that's
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: going to change the outcome huge. And look at this
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: right obviously, now you go over here to Flex, he's
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: still showing up fifty percent of the time, but it
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: likes him a lot less and it wants a lot
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: more Kareem Hunt almost seventy five percent of the time,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: over seventy five percent of the time in that Captain slot.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: So you can do adjustments like that. We did that
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: last year with our partnership with run the Sims. You
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: can now do it at ship a Nation. It's not SIMS,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: but you can do it in Shipdemizer to be able
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: to get your own stuff and find your own way
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: up to the top. So that tells you right on there, Mors.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: I don't have it up right now, but I think
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: it's point five percent, sorry, not point five percent to
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: boost when you boost them either way. But the other
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: thing you said, who too is just going back now
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: to the stone is like he shows up, he pops
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: off the page for good reason. But Baker's not far
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: behind him. You asked him. What my take on quarterback?
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt not that far behind him, Travis Kelcey not
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: that far behind him. Some decent numbers on those receivers.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know what's going to happen. Nobody does. All
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: you can do is build for what you want to happen,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: for your lineups and your portfolio, or for what you
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: think is going to happen, or building sets and do
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: some of both. But I know exactly what people are doing,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: and I know exactly what leverage is it, So my
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: captains are gonna be built all around that I'm playing
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: to exploit the field underweight Mahomes, overweight Baker, Rashad White,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt, Hopkins, Worthy, Kelsey, Like, that's the easy setup
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: for me in my Mahomes lineups to benefit myself even
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: if he comes in lower than expected and the ownership
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: does come in higher. On Kareem Hunt, I'm still not
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: gonna build my Mahomes lineups like the rest of the field.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: I'll fit in, I'll leave more salary. I'll build different
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: roster construction types, three threes with him and the captain
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: or something versus the four twos and five ones or
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: and or I will put it in where it's gonna
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: land on. Everybody's gonna play Kelsey and I'll go and
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: play Watson, or I'll go and play Hopkins or something
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: and just leave that money on the table. So it's
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: just little things like that that I'm gonna look at
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: when I go through it. Hoop, Do you got anything
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: else you want to add there with any of that conversation,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: with those changes that I made, No.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: I like the point. Yeah, I'm definitely leaning towards a
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: little more Baker. The one thing to add on about
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: Baker is the running upside too, Like he'll take off,
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: and that's kind of big, especially honestly like this, where
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: I mean a couple fantasy points here there could make
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: the difference. I think there's a lot of guys that
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: probably finish in the same range fantasy point wise. The
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: fact that he's willing to take off, he's done it
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: all year, I think is definitely something good for him.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: They're willing to play all the way to the end.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: The rush attempts like all season long, four six, three,
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: five three, that's definitely valuable. Honestly like this, so I
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: think I am leaning towards some Baker tonight.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Bucks are gonna need Baker to make plays in
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: this expected matchup in game script, there is a clear path.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: And that's the other thing too. The other thing about
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: the Mahomes captain titles. Any more thoughts from you, a captain,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: I'll let you round them out. One more thing I
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: would add is what do we always say, like in
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: college football, which we had a huge weekend overtriber nation
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: in the college football streets super flex, what do people
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: do a lot play two quarterbacks? Why? It's the most
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: correlated thing, but you just can't do it on a
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: classic slater or a show like in Showdown, you could
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: do it Captain up top, Captain in the Flex's same thing,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: but in order for Mahomes to hit that ceiling, it's
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: likely that Baker sort of pushes it and comes with him.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: If it's just Baker doing one more than Mahomes and
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: it's Hunt running it in instead of Mahomes for that
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: swing of the difference, they're both pretty expensive at captain,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: which is why it's leaning so heavy to Patrick Mahomes.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: But it could just be that swing where it's an
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: extra Hunt touchdown and Baker beats him, and that's the
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: difference of that. It's not really about the money savings
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: or the ownership, it's how quick it could change in
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: a back and forth game. So realistically, if it's a
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: blowout for the Chiefs while somebody does have to cause it,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: it's very possible. It could be a bunch of different things.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: It could be a lot of field goals. Could be
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Kelsey gets two and he's up top, could be worthy,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: could be any of that stuff. So I'll kick it
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: back to you title any other thoughts on captain and
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: from all that stuff, we said, no, Yeah, I'm gonna
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: play Baker.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: You talked to me in a little bit of him.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: I already liked Rashaud whitez I liked Kelsey, who like Otten?
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: And again the price makes him more intriguing. It just
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: man nine point dogs at that price, like he has
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: to he has to have a big boy game, not
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: necessarily what he did last week, but even seven for
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: fifty in a touchdown might not be enough to get
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: up tops. So I don't know if I have what
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: do we have that six percent something like that. If
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: I have a couple percent, I'd be fine. But what
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna do. I love Kareem Hunts, I like Rashan White,
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: both running backs worthy. He's gonna be my Kate Otten, overspend,
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: big play upside, gonna play Kelsey, and I'll probably be
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: underweight Mahomes too. But it's really I could see Kareem
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Hunt getting to like eighteen percent and Mahomes like twenty
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: one percent for all the reasons where he's saying like
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: nine point favorites, the weather concern, checking projected ownership, Like
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: if Mahomes goes down, I think Kareem Hunt by far
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: is the biggest beneficiary. So I'm gonna try and mess
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: like just in my head. As the slake gets closer,
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna try and see what people are doing if
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: we adjust anything. Because if you project it like twenty
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: three Hunt and nineteen Mahomes and you're right, like you're
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: gonna get I would have more mahomes than than Hunt
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: if I knew Hunt would was gonna get that steam
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: because then you're leveraging off of very popular Hunts when
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: he wasn't expected to be as popular.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: So that's the stuff you.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: Showed how you can manually do your projection and ship
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: Toemizer can also do that with ownership too. If you
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: think we have something wrong, that is the little stuff,
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: the little sauce you can have to make things to
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: make the content even better. So yeah, same thoughts though
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: at Captain as I had, And.
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: I think it's all what you said too, Like I
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: actually can see it, like this is what I'm saying,
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: like if it's twenty seventeen and fifteen is right, Like
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: I definitely see what you're saying, like it's gonna if
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: it goes anywhere, it's Mahomes to Hunt.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I think Kelsey, we already have him at a bit
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: higher on Like I think he's about right. Maybe he
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: gets to sixteen doesn't really matter at that point, but
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: it is the Mahomes Hunt stuff I definitely think comes
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: together a little. But after everything I've seen now, maybe
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: not like again, Mahomes is just getting jam jam jam.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: No matter what you do, you would literally have to
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: adjust all the stuff we already talked about to make
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: it change. So I don't know, poop anything else you
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: want to add at quarterback, then we're kind of off
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: the captains now. I think we rounded that out nicely.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: But anything else at quarterback, if not anything else at
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: the running back position.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean definitely as much of these quarterbacks as
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: you can get in flex. I mean we talked about
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: him in depth at at captain, but as much as
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: you can possibly get in the flex for sure. In
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: terms of the running backs talked about kream Hunt. I
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: think he's a phenomenal play and I actually agree at
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: that point that title just made where I think he
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: does end up getting more ownership. People are going to
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: look at this whether the fact that they're nine and
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: a half point favorites the fact that you know a
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: lot of people are now understanding that they're willing to
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: win these ugly, grinded out type games. I think he
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: does end up coming up a little bit. But I'm
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: fine with that. I mean, it's not like you have
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: to adjust how you play it. Like, I think he's
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: fine in all formats. The thing I struggle with, I'm
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: not as excited in the Tampa Bay stuff. You know,
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: Rashad White, Bucky like Bucky Irving at seven too, I
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: might just end up fading. He's gonna get some ownership,
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: but seven too, Like, I just don't like that for
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: a guy that's splitting, not only splitting like this is
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: Sean Tucker is gonna get mixed in some as well,
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: and especially if they're down, if they're down a lot,
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: Sean Tucker is getting some reps today. So that really
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: scares me for even Rashad White. So I might be
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: underweight on White, potentially fading Bucky Irving, and I'm definitely
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: not playing Sean Tucker. So really, when I look at this,
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: you know, Kareem Hunt, I'm gonna play a ton of
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: Rashad White, probably underweight. Bucky Irving is a potential fade
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: candidate for me at seventy two hundred, Like, think about
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: what he has to do it seventy two hundred, Like
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: he's got to do a lot and he's splitting at
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: best and injured. You know, there's some toe thing they
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: said he's got to deal with all year. P Ryan,
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: I don't love Tucker, not super interested in, and then
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: Steele not really all that interested in. So I'm gonna
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: be big on Hunt and then like very low on
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: these other dudes.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, title just a spirit of time, dude, Like, yeah,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: you can only talk so much on these spots. Gotta
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: wait on injuries things like that. Expect Bucky to be
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: good to go though, But do you have any thoughts
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: on playing the two of them together? And then anything
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: else you want to add to the running back conversation.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: I was just looking through. Yeah, because I make initial
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: builds and stuff. I only had a very few select
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: teams like that. I wouldn't make a rule against it
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: and most of the building. If I did, that would
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: probably be four to two bucks. And just like think
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: they get out from the lead early and then all
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: they do is pound the football.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Those guys get pretty much everything.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Both do have PPR upside, and then the two chiefs
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: on the other side is like mahomes Worthy mahomes causey
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: mahomes Hop, Hopkins Worthy just something like that, and you
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: think they'll have to throw a lot more. I definitely
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: would not want like Kareem Hunt, Bucky and Rashad White together.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: I still don't love it, though, Like if you're only
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: making a couple of teams seven four and seven to two,
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: that's big boy prices.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Like I know who definitely doesn't like it.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: But if they tell me right now those two are
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: on the optimal, I'm probably telling you there's a solo shipper,
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: which is again what we play for.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: I know you and I.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: A lot tambo, so I don't love it now, but
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: it'd be more four two bucks.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: If I had.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, this is just gonna spend all your
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: cash for the most part, or you're gonna be thin,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: and yeah, I can hit like anything, can hit show down,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: or you'll be a one v one away because that's
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: the building, et cetera, et cetera. But I don't know,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: I just you know, look at it a different way,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: I guess, But I think what you said is perfect,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: and I actually don't. I won't rule against it. I
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: just can't imagine I'll get too much of that together anyway,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: just because like, how does it happen both teams just
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: have It has to be a very ugly.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Game, terrible. I think it's a terrible player.
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: I mean, I won't get any of it because of
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: how I'm building my teams.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: I'm potentially fading Bucky Irvan. But you're fourteen to six, like.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: You need them to score, like they have to score
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: probably like thirty real life points.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Like it's it's.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: Beyond like the game strategy. Yeah, so if you know,
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not gonna get any of it, but
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: I definitely like the rule of making sure if you're
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: playing both those guys to exclude it from happening.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: I just can't imagine, like even if one's in the
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: cat again just from a build standpoint four two's with
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: those two would it be unique? Absolutely? How does it
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: even get there? I have no idea explaining it.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: And also opening drive bocks Rashad White or Bucky scores,
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: then it's a close game and they just want to
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: take the air out of the ball and it's a
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: really low scoring game where it's twelve and thirteen's enough,
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Like that's what you need.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: You need under and you need bucks to be very competitive.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: But I think it's like, you know, you did a
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: good job actually coming back with something. But I think
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: it's like literally a finite score and an exact result
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: versus you know, the night that the guy won with
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: like sixteen grand on the table and played two d's,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: two kickers and one pass catcher from each team and
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: it ended up being the Nuts by ten or something.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: It was like a one time thing. He literally built
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: the lineup and said this is going to be what happens,
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: and it did. That's different than what we're trying to
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: pinpoint here. And even if you go one of them
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: in the Captain like you were talking like maybe you know,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: I like we're shot up top, it's just like I
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: don't know, how does Rashad get there? And it not Bucky.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would need flex.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: It would be both being the flex and it'd probably
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: be like the Chiefs worthy hot Kelsey, like they're just
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: forced to throw the ball fifty times when they're not expected.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Again, I'm just trying to talk through how I could.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna love that about this show. We can
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: come up with some concepts and ideas, but I mean
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: that's now it's for talking people into the exact build
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: they'd have to build. So I'm with certain and title
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: I think you're coming around to that page too because
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: it's tough. But yeah, definitely like White with Baker. I
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: think our guy Kyle brought up a good point here
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: right trailing game script could definitely see those two be
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: part of the mix, and that could just be the
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: way it goes. And if the Chiefs spread it out
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: a little bit more, you could actually see that work
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: in like a two four scenario. What if Bucky or sorry,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: what if for Shot gets in early, they hold ground
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: a little bit and you know, chiefs are spreading it
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: around and then it ends up being let you know,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: shot White is what you need up top, or it's
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Baker up top with White in the flex, Baker runs
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: one in hits a guy that nobody has hits HiT's
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Rashot or Rashot has one, and it's a two to
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: four with but with a bakerupt top and Rashad White
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: in the flex with four chiefs. So yeah, I think
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: there's a little a few other ways to go, I
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: don't I guess the last question I would have for
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: you hoop on the running backs and then you can
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: take us into wide receiver, And I know you said
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: not much interested in, but like in, if you're building
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: five ones and four two's and you're already so condensed
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: at the captain, you'll you'll just get to a level
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: of some lineups where it's like, Okay, I can only
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: build so many five ones this way, maybe I may
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: as well have a couple this way. Would you have
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: any five ones that incorporate, like p Ryan or Steel
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: just closing out the game down the stretch sort of,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: you know, that would make more sense to me than
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: the other side of the Bucky White stuff, where it
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: could be Steal at twenty four hundred, closes out the
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: game with fifty yards and a touchdown or something just
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: when they don't care.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if deciding between like the p Run steel stuff
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: would definitely be Steel in that scenario where you're building
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: your team for the Chiefs to just absolutely spank them
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: win by thirty and then he's getting fourth quarter work
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: like p Ryan is, you know, end of the aff
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: two minute drill, playing from behind sort of stuff, which
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: we haven't seen a lot of them because well, the
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: Chiefs really haven't been playing from behind much this season,
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: and they're likely not playing from behind here tonight, so
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: it'll probably be steal over Pete Ryan if you're building
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: teams like that, Yeah.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: I agree. Shout out to our guy. GK. Pheifer had
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: a little shipper in MMA on Saturday for like six
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five bucks. He said, Oh, it's not
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: that much, but you know, I love shipping it, love
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: my community. This guy's the man. We really appreciate it.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: And it was awesome to see that drops the hammer
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: and discord yesterday. He says, I got to share this
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: with my ship at family before I show everybody else.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Eleven bucks into fifty three thousand, five and ninety five dollars.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Just a massive score. So shout out to GK. Pheiffer.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Just a huge hit. He goes, Can I still get
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: one of those hoodies? I go, yeah, man, we'll get
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: get set up. Get a goodie. We'll get you the
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: code and get you all set up there. But title,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: I mean hoop going back to you the wide receivers.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Then I don't have anything else to add at running back.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Give me some thoughts on this passing game?
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, just shit on all the running backs. And then
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: I pulled up the wide receivers in this game and
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: realized that realized I might run into some problems here
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: real quick, because wow, this has got to be like
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: the worst group of wide receivers on a showdown slate
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: potentially ever. I mean, you're looking at Worthy as the
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: top probably projected wide receiver and he is just massively
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: boom er bust eighty two dollars Hopkins, what sort of
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: role does he fall? I mean, have to imagine much
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: more work than last week. But he's coming with ownership too,
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: because there's just like nothing out there that's all that
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: exciting in terms of flex type plays. I have to
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: imagine he has a little bit of a bigger workload,
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: justin Watson, Nicole Hardman, like you can kind of play
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: all these guys. A guy like Hardman Watson probably better
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: in those Mahomes captain teams on the Tampa Bay side.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: It sounds like these guys are gonna play.
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: But you know, McMillan's listed his questionable Shepherd's listed his
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: questionable Shepherd sat out Thursday and Friday due to the hamstring,
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: but limited practice on Saturday, and then McMillan was limited
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: on Saturday as well. He's listening as questionable, so could
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: get some consolidation if one of these guys were to
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: be ruled out. Seems like both do play, but it's
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: just one thing to watch at at at Locke today
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: or not at Lock when an actives come out. But yeah,
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: I mean I'll be playing these guys just because I
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: kind of have to. McMillan, Palmer, Shepherd, people talking about Rakeem, Jared.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: At two, k Ryan Miller. It's just an ugly one.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's just no other way to go around it.
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: Like, if you're playing Mahomes captain teams, all those guys
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: are not my Homes ever. Playing Baker captain teams, all
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: these guys are gonna look much more appealing, better suited
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: for those story teams.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: But man, it's it's an ugly one.
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: But I'll always side with these wide receivers over like
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: running backs that are splitting carry. So that's kind of
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: will be my stance on these slates. I'm gonna take
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: chances on these wide receivers opposed to those running backs.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: So kind of where I'm at. But it's tough to
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: parse through all this.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know the latest on Shepherd, but I
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: guess the big thing with McMillan again, I still think
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: he plays, but we'll see. He practiced Thursday and Friday
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: and then not Saturday, just was limited. I guess Sorr
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: he did practice was limited in practice on Saturday. So
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: people are kind of thinking that could be a thing.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: But again we'll have to wait and see. I don't
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: know how that goes, but just in general, the one
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: that got me here was Ross. If you watch Ballers,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: the rock in them, Ricky Jarrett is a Denzel Washington's
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: son who plays Ricky Jarrett in Ballers, and it's Rakeem
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Jarrett tonight, but it would be our Jarrett up. So
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: maybe if you think he's a baller too, and one
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: of those guys is listed is out, when we get
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: closer to the game time than by all means they
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: would become real plays, I might, you know, skip ahead.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: I know Title still got to talk wide receivers and myself,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: but Max Payne Dura when everybody's in on Kate Otten,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: you know I'm getting some pain. Durham in the pool tonight.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Don't even care what he does or who he is,
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: but at six hundred bucks, he's making the pool. So Title,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: I'll kick it to you you already liked a little
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: bit of stuff earlier, with Worthy being able to take
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: a slant like you said, seventy no problem, fast as
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: can be. Hopkins is there, Watson Hardman the other side,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, what are you doing? Because it's kind of
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: ugly still overall.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: Chief side is easy for me because I think it's
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: gonna be a lot of Worthy and a lot of Hopkins.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: And they're running a bunch of twelve personnel and stuff
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: too now with all their injuries, Like Noah Gray ran
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: seventy two percent of rounds or he was on a
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: field seventy two percent of the time, Kelsey eighty percent.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: You're gonna get to this Wiley and Fords him dude
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: like these dudes played seventeen snaps, nineteen snaps. I don't
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: think we're gonna see much eleven personnel from the Chiefs today,
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: especially with the gross And why would you throw Justin
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: Watson or Mkole Hardman or these dudes out there instead
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: of another big tight end.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: We can run the football more effective or throw along.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: So I think it's gonna be a lot of Worthy,
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: a lot of hop in twelve personnel. Like you said,
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: who said boom or bus for Worthy, that's perfect. If
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: he gets me zero, I'm not making any cheese anyway.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: He gets me thirty, well, that's what I'm gonna play
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: in Met Captain. Hopefully he gets them. He's my favorite
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: wide receiver on the slate today. He is a little expensive,
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: but again, one play, especially in what could be a
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: low scoring game, it only takes one bubble.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: He can take it all away, so cheapside easy.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: I will be playing a little Watson because I do
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: think he is the one when they do go eleven
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: personnel through receiver sets, it is him. But when we
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: get to like Kelsey, Noah Gray, like I love Noah Gree,
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: He's way better than almost all these dudes.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: I think we're gonna talk about the bucks.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: Side is really tough for me, and I'm gonna mix
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: and match all of them. But the reason it's hard
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: is like last week was the first sample we had
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: without Mike Evans and Godwin.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: They ran a bunch of dudes.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: McMillan eighty one percent of snaps sixty two percent, Shepherd
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: seventy percent, Palmer Jarrett twenty seven percent. He was in
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: for twenty snaps. Get to this Ryan Miller guy, he
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: was in for thirty snaps forty one percent. So like
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: if other gonna mix and match all these guys, I
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: mean one K Miller, two K Jarrett, I'm gonna be
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: mixing and matching them.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: For sure.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: They're a pivot off and Noah Gray will be a
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: little more expensive, But it's just like at the end
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: of the day, value you need. I prefer them over
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: Carson Steele. I won't be playing much Seawn Tucker. You
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: need value on a slate like this. I don't have
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: a strong lean on the Buccaneers stuff, so I'm not
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: even like go in depth. I feel much better with
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: the Chiefs and them going bigger today, so I'll play
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: a lot of Hop and Worthy as my favorites.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: I'll be mixing the matching all the Buccaneers guys.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: But the last thing to mention, the good thing is
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: we're looking at ownership right here. Miller three percent, Jarrett
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: four percent, Shepherd ten, Palmer sixteen, McMillan twenty. Even if
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: we're off a little bit there, they're not breaking like
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: the slate in terms of ownership or mega mega chalk.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: You can mix and match anyways you want more popular teams.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: I'll side with the lower owned stuff. If I have
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: a lower own team, maybe I'll go McMillan stuff like that.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: So that's my receiver break.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. Also, I'm just looking at something else.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: But I don't know if I believe this wide receiver
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: ownership either. I gotta look one more thing, so Zi
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: Xavier Worthy, Yeah, I don't. I don't think I believe this.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: So I again, I was call it like I see it.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: We'll see, but I just don't see how. You know,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Kelsey's only forty three and he's almost thirty, and likewise,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Aughton is like the main guy people. I think Exworthy
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: gotta be a great play on this, like captain or flex.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: He's the he's the perfect pivot in many different ways.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Like he's less than Kelsey, he's less than Auton. But
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: those two gotta be more owned. I don't care how
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: you look at it. It's just gonna happen. He can break
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: a slate to Title's point. On top of that, there's
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: little things like nuances that I see for roster construction
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: when you only got six spots, one captain and five
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: flex like Kate Aughton with Noah Gray. Is how people
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: are gonna play when they're building that way, because they're
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: gonna say, O, if I'm going Kate Aughton, oh, I'm
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: gonna get different instead of playing Kelsey with him, I'm
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: gonna go to Noah. Great, great options on both sides.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: I like them.
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: Boat.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, though, you can flip it out and this
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: would be more if we get one of these McMillan
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: or Shepherd guys out. But even still we are still
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: missing Godwin and Evans. On top of the fact that
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: if you're not using Aughton in this example, any Aughton
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: and Gray lineup can probably be Worthy and one of
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Jarrett or Miller, and again that's just already so different,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: and you can do whatever else you want with the
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: rest of your lineup. So just little things like that,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: little nuances are things that I'm looking for. So yeah,
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: I don't have much more at wide receiver. We've got
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: to wait on the Bucks side. But I think ex
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: Worthy has to be a good play. I think your
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: call out on the eleven personnel stuff, you know, and
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: when they go to twelve, you know, in and out.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: But Watson would be the guy to your point title,
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: So I think I agree a lot with title on
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: all the stuff, and Hoop said a lot of the
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: same stuff anyway, So we're all, I think, pretty aligned
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: when it comes to it. It's not pretty though, Hoop.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: I'll go to you tight end anything else on receiver
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: if you want to add it. But if not, Aughton,
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Max Payne, Durham, Noah Gray and then Travis Kelsey time
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Kelsey right, this is the thing too. I'm sure swift
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Eas will be out in full force tonight. It's in
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: Kansas City. Gotta light up the sky for him, and
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: it's a it's a certain day tomorrow. We're not going
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: to talk about it, but you know they got to
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: get the the Swift Kelsey love going before the election, right,
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: So that that's the other day.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: I got in trouble. I got in trouble yesterday. I
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: got putting them out for dragging that shit out.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: I'm flipping on this note. I'm letting The only reason
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: I'm letting it slide now, not that I'm boss, just
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: saying I'm letting it slide, is because even DraftKings throughout
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: shout out to NHL tomorrow the election day, NHL five
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: point fifty five with two hundred k op top So
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: no I'm.
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I can mean, you know, I can talk about
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: the stuff without giving my opinion.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: I'm trained in that, man, And yeah, that's that's the
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: best way.
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: But I do think though, on one side, because I
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: got me distracted, the fact that the NBA does that
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: no games on election Day is so stupid because the
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: time the games would start, like voting is basically done.
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: Like it's not like they're voting like through the night.
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: So I think that part of it's pretty dumb. But anyhow,
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: that's a different conversation.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: Oh different quick thing, hoop, your boy Dak expected to
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: miss multiple weeks now, I mean.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: He's just so bad man.
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: I mean, thank God he made us a ship ton
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: of money last year, Like thank.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: You, Like we we need to be.
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: Like whoever made that happen for us last year? We
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: need to be thanking, like pray to God every night
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: and just be thankful to the Lord Jesus that he
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: allowed us to make money on Dak Prescott last year. Right,
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: because that dude, I'm not gonna swear because we're talking,
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: you know, I've brought the Lord into the conversation. He
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: is terrible, Like, he is so bad man. Their team
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: is Oh, it's just how do they keep rolling like
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: McCarthy out. I mean, it's just so terrible. But good
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: for him though, I might bring ad that is a
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: good point. Burn the jersey who said that, go collect
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: my guy, go collect that. It might have to happen, honestly,
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: might have to. You know what there it is, I'll
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: burn the jersey and do the shoe ao at the
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: same time.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: Know what's doing. That could be some good content.
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: All right, let's bring it back to the I did
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: want to one more thing about the wide receivers with
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: all those Tampa Bay guys. Those guys got legitimate like title,
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: brought up legitimate reps on the field and targets like
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: So I think that is a stronger case now for
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: like the Baker captain stuff, because there's so many different
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: ways you can do it.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: Like who says that? Who are these dudes? I don't
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: even know their names. This Jarrett guy can't outscore Sterling Shepherd.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: You're looking at a thirty six hundred dollars difference. Build
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: a team with Shepherd, come down to Jarrett. Same thing
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: with this Ryan Miller guy.
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: So I do like the Baker captain stuff now because
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: there's so many different ways to go with those teams,
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: and the chance to you know, not necessarily get unique,
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: but limit probably limit the dukes tight ends easy though Kelsey,
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: Ott and Gray. I agree with the point on Gray.
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's just so much better than all those
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: other wide receivers. I think he's a phenomenal play tonight
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: at twenty eight hundred. I mean he's on the field
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: of time, getting steady targets like three, four or five
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: targets every single game. I think he's a great play.
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: You guys know, I love at And then you know
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: Kelsey with the rough looking weather, I think he gets
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: a little bit of a boost too in prime time.
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: And then the election narrative that Tampa threw on there
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: maybe adds a little adds a little bit of juice,
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: a little.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: Bit of juice, a little bit of needle juice there
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: for him. We'll see. But the guy Gray title, let
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: me go to you on this, especially if we get
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: this back my point that I already made. But if
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: we get one of these guys McMillan or Shepherd out,
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: we'll have to see. I think they play, but just
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: in case they don't. Gray five five, eight, six to
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: zero ten. He's got it in him to make this happen,
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: but he's also got potential to do nothing and not
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: be needed. And those guys busted on their five targets
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: or something, and it's one for thirty, two for forty
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: five and they're already at six or seven and Grey
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: got to play catch up again. I like Gray quite
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: a bit. I'll be overweight, probably maybe not overweight because
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: we're showing him a in like fifteen percent, but I'll
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: definitely have Gray in the pool. But just saying, especially
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: if we get the others out, I don't think people
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: are as quick to adapt as they once were. And
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: while Jared and Miller of the Miller's of the World
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: would get a bit of a boost, I just think
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: people will still feel more comfortable with Noah Gray and
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: why not just throw him in there?
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're probably right.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: The thing with Gray and I like him so much
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: is like, I mean, I hyped up Worthy so much,
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: but boom er bus, we talked about why can't Noah
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: Gray I outscore Xavier Worthy? And right there is five
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: K plus Like Noah Gray played de Longes most snaps
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: of the year last game, and that makes sense. They're
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: depleted Rashi, Rice, Juju, Sky Moore all that, Why would
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: you want to roll out anybody but Watson, Like Noah,
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: Gray is better than Harp and he's better than Watson.
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: He's better than Montreal Washington and they know that, and
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: they want to run the football more so. Two tight
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: end sets brings in a better blocker. Dude's gonna be
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: on the field seventy percent of the time and he's
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: only twenty eight hundred. I just feel so much better
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: about being able to leave chunks some money going Gray
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: because at the end the day, if you told me
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: he's a fourth highest score on the slate in this game,
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: I would not be surprised because I do think the
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: role last week and this week was much better than
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: the beginning of the year with the injuries. So he's
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: my favorite tight end play at ownership. At price, I
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: like Kelsey Ought and I'm indifferent about a little bit
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: because of the price. Like I do know I will
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: have more worthy. I think he'll be cheaper, but it's
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: only those three for me.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: I'm playing.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: I love me some Notebary, Yeah, I like that call.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: I don't have anything else to add, Like I said,
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: Payne Durham, Well, Max Pain, I looked him up, you know,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: especially if someone's out, but there's it's not just because
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: the name. I'm making fun of that, but I think
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: it's also too like he could be out there interchanging
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: with Autumn and then on top of it, you know,
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: if a guy is out, he just gets even more opportunity. Again,
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: we'll have to wait and see with those inactives, all right,
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: hoop anything on your favorite position? Kickers and d I
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: don't know if you want to add anything to this one.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: Like Bunker the Chiefs d both looked pretty good, but
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: you know, what are you doing with them? Yeah?
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: I was like Bucker Slat's talk about election stuff. I
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: mean definitely, and I'm definitely definitely hit on Bucker. I
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: mean he's my guy. I mean fifty two hundred. I
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: mean he's got big time upside. I mean he has
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: twenty fantasy point upside. And if we're thinking that twenty
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: is enough, Like I'm not opposed to Bucker captain teams
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: tonight concerns. Yeah, the weather, I mean that's that's not great.
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: I mean it's definitely definitely not ideal. I do is
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: it win or is it just like scattered down pours,
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: so it doesn't look like it's super windy.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: So it's just the rain.
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: So as long as it's not super windy, like I'm
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: I'm I'm good with Bucker in a team that's like
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: willing to you know, win these nasty games. They'll kick
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: the field goals. Again, I'm not one hundred percent sure
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: that I'm going that route. Probably don't have to because
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: salary is pretty soft, but I am not necessarily.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: Opposed to it even in the weather.
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: So Chiefs D Bucker, I do like, not gonna play
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: Chiefs the up top, but the buccaneer stuff is tough
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: for me to get to, like the Bucks D or
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: even the McLoughlin guy. I mean, I'll have some, but
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: you know, I want the guys in the trailing game
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: script if I mean, this is a tough spot for
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: Tampa Bay Monday night football.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: In Kansas City.
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: You know, Kansas City obviously looks like the second best
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: team in the NFL, behind the behind My Lions.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: Of course, you know what I mean, that's an easy one.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: That's an easy one.
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: So not as interested in like McLoughlin or bucks Dy,
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: but yeah, Bucker for sure. And then interested in in
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: some Chiefs, but this seems like the spot where these
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: defenses do get steamed up a little bit. Huge home
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: favorites a good solid defense. So that is the one
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: concern for me with the Chiefs defense.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: I don't think I.
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: Can ever get enough to be like over overweight on
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: the Chiefs defense tonight.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't do all three of these. I had
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: to teach the room first of all. I'm only going
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: to get two of them in very many lineups anyway.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: But Gray can still get there, as can one of
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: those guys. I think it would be between Jared and Miller
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: the way they're rotating in and out, if you really
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: want to set it, I just don't see it even happening.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: I will say, who not to burst your bubble, but
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: you are the game log watcher for Kickers, and have
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: you looked at your boy Bucker's game log this season?
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe surprise you. You may be cloudy in the with
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: the the election to arrival here because no point it's ten.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no big games.
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: I know it's not uh yeah ten four, fourteen three
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: or five thirteen, ten to nine. But man, when I'm like,
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: he's not like it may better man, maybe just sticking
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: with the fox.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, he seems like a nine to eleven sort
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: of prediction.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: Rakeem Jarrett, former five star.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: Recruited, gotta jam him.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Now got a jam, got a jam. I'm here to
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: make plays. He says, nineteen hours ago is man. He's
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: ready to go. This guy is ready to rock.
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: He is twenty three years old Aquarius January twenty fourth,
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: two thousand and one. I know that because close to
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: my birthday. So all right, rakeem Jarrett, we're rocking with him.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: He said, he's the goat. This is the guy. So
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: we got to see what happens. But that's the interesting stuff. Title.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: Anything's on the Kickers and D's no.
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: I mean, I do think coop like defense, like I
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: think Chiefs D gets steam, and I think Kickers might
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: go down a little bit or at least stay stagnant
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: twenty percent with the weather stuff anytime that's the case,
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: especially like we're comparing to Sterling Staff or Drey Palmer,
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: Justin Watson, like all those dudes can absolutely blank as well.
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I'll be playing some Kickers. And we just
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: saw the Colts yesterday. No one really wanted to play
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: Colts D seven percent. Absolutely put up a nuke like.
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: There's so much volatility and variance in these things. We
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: could have seen Bucks D today at seven percent. If
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: that's the case, I'll five percent. I'll always have some
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: in my pool. But my preferred plays are definitely the
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: chief side Bucker and the defense over the Buck stuff.
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: Because Mahomes doesn't make many mistakes, big boy favorites, they're
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: probably gonna keep the ball on the ground. Bucks to
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: drop back a lot more. That's what you want when
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: you play a defense. So no hot takes over here.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and let me just see this quick too. I'm
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: always looking up some stuff here and the for the
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: chat that people love this stuff. Rakeem Jarrett also nickname
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: the nickname Rock. We talked earlier about Ballers where Rock
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: is on the show with Ricky Jarrett.
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: Man if we get yeah, yeah, you add back the
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: it and his name rocket Ship like the Sin logo, it's.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: All starting to make sense.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah you can't.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: I thought, Wait, what's his first name?
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: Rokey? You dreams man? Get it done. Let's go all right,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: Well we'll see I got nothing else with the Kickers
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: and D's. I think it's a lot of little nuances
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: like title kind of pointed out there, like little things
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: you can do tonight, bucker over to McLoughlin, like it's
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: the same same, it's it's a foreigner bucks Less. He's
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: he's actually had some bigger games this season than him.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: It's possible even in some of those stuff. So I
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: certainly think it's an op opportunity. The defense. I think
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: it would just be more going overweight to the kickers
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: or leaving them out than it would be flipping sides.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: But obviously if you land on some Tampa Bay Tampa
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: Bay d there's nothing wrong with that, but nothing major
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: for me to add there. Hoop any any FanDuel thoughts
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: from you that don't matter?
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: Tonight we're getting some reality back on there.
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: I mean, all these dudes coming in stroking rakeeem and
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: this guy, I mean, Jason says he can't even catch
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: a freaking football, which makes sense, right, I mean.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: It's yeah, But listen, there's people that suck. There's people
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: that are amazing in college and then suck in the
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: NFL too. It can go both ways. There's other people
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: that hit their stride. They just need a little bit
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: more time and then they come around. They need to
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: get Baker Mayfield chucking them the ball against the Chiefs.
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: They need to I mean, I'm definitely playing rakeem the
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: what's his name, what's his nickname?
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: The Rock?
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: I think it says he's been working.
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, you can't, you can't be your nickname, can't
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: be the rock like that probably was given to him
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: with drop rock hands.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, rock man, it's rock stone hands is what people
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: are flipping it to. Yeah, but this this is the
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: one man, this is the.
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: White I mean, for what it's worth, I'm definitely playing
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: on the.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: Nigga Nats dropping hammers on our boy. Jason said, do
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: you bring me some stats? I guess he would have
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: done a hell of a lot better if he had
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: hands then. But one hundred and nineteen receptions, fifteen hundred yards,
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: ten dds?
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: Is that rock?
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: Baby?
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: That doesn't even seem all that good in college twenty
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: eight really in twenty eight games, that's like that's probably
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: three seasons.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: Like that's not good, is it?
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: Oh? Man, Bill knows this stuff though, Man, he's coming
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: through this is stuff. Yeah, Bill knows everything, and he goes, yeah, actually, boys,
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: not that good. So the hands title already connected you can.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: Already see what's gonna happen tonight.
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: We're gonna be all rocked up on the rakeem and
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: he's gonna get like, get this sixty yard touchdown. I'm
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: gonna hit him right in the hands. You're gonna fucking
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: drop it. You know what's happening now?
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: Well, who did it today? Who just did this? The
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: last slate, there was somebody that just did the worst one.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: Ruin all our bait.
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: We talked ourselves into the Baker Baker captain teams are
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: gonna have this beautiful Baker captain team. All we need is,
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: you know, forty yard touchdown and stonehands is gonna drop.
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you're thinking about Pickens Tamba, but man,
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: no one could have ran worse than Pickens.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: Higans got crushed on touchdown. Somebody dropped the ball the
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: other night. It was literally right to them is to
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: get the I forget who it was, but either way,
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: my point is it's one game, boys, it's one game
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: slate and go collect knows where's he at here? He said,
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: look at the stats. Fine, that's why the best showing
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: in the business come to this one. Get everything immediately.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: Look how quick we got rakeem Jarrett stat it up.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: We know how many drops in college? What team he
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: played for? Full stat line over there.
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: The full profile on this dude, got the full profile.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: Look at this ross says twelve and a half percent
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: drop right, that's nothing Canarius Tony. We got a Tony
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: narrative tonight too.
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: MBS is still in the league somehow, so, I mean
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: there's always hope for these dudes.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: They can't catch the bombs. Uh, he's about tea he had, Yes,
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: he's on the site I had to catch yesterday.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: I remember it's on the tip of my tongue. It
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: like hit them right in the face, and it was
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: for everything. It was like, man, we needed that. But anyway,
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: who FanDuel thoughts anything from you there? Like looking at
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: the price, it's really pretty. I don't know you'll find
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: the discrepancies, but the rest kind of looked similar to
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: fan Toda.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: That's what I was really gonna say. I was trying
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: to find something like a talking point.
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: But there's just like nothing that really stands out in
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: terms of pricing. DeAndre Hopkins under ten k, like ninety
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: five hundred. That's a value price tag. I mean he's
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: priced around the Kickers, so maybe a little you know,
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: boost to d hop over there, but everything else looks
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: pretty similar. I mean, you just have all those Tampa
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: Bay McMillan at ninety five hundred, so he's actually kind
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: of priced up. McMillan's the same price as Hopkins, but
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: everyone else is like eight km below. Noah Gray at
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: sixty five hundred definitely like him a lot on FanDuel
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: where you know, three for three in our love for
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: Noah great tonight and sixty five hundred, especially at FanDuel
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: if he catches one touched down, you know, he's probably
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: on the optimal. But yeah, I don't think there's much
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: of a difference tonight, and not many price tags that
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: that stand out as a as a big discrepancy between
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: the sites.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: What I want to know before I go to title
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: here is why didn't anyone bring us Ryan Miller stats
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: a thousand bucks less more targets last game? Like what's
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: with the Ryan Miller hate?
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: Jared runs a four to four forty probably Miller runs
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: a five to four if i'm.
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: He's not as flashy, Yeah, Jared's gotta be like that
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: to actually not not bad at all.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: So I'll tell you what he said. Uh, Todd Bowles
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: five days ago, very disappointed in Ryan Miller said, great play,
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: but we still got to come down and knock that
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: ball out. Miller's got to get that ball out.
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: So he's literally the guy that ruined his team's chance
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: this year by playing his injured players and meaningful meaningless spot.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: So he's a dumbass.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: You might want to grab a beer instead of a
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: Ryan Miller in your lineup and say it's Miller time.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: As rackeem the dream hits a sixty yard lick and
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: everyone's saying he can't catch a ball. We're going nuts
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: in the discord. Let's hope that one of these dudes
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: is out now so we can make this a reality.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: If we get like Shepherd out or McMillan out, this
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: could be the one. And yeah, used to be Scotty Miller.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: Scotty doesn't know remember Tom Brady and everybody that that
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: was the thing before.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: Brother, it's his younger brother.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: I didn't look that up. I don't think so, but maybe.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, chat will back it up. Find the family tree
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: for us.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: Mind takes.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: If you play anyone but mahomes that m VP, you're different.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: If you have three two bucks, you're different. For to
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: one Chiefs and three two cheeks will be really popular.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: And then just like Boo to go, Tampa running backs
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: Rad White, Bucky John Tucker will be pretty low owned.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: And also Tampa h Kicker Tampa Dee pivots off of Bucker,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: Chiefs d So anything Buccaneers heavier three to two or
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: anything else or not playing Mahomes otherwise it's gonna be
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: a mega chip.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: Dude, we got a we got a former tight end here.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: What is Baker loves throwing to freaking Kate Atton. It's Miller.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: It's Miller over Jared tonight, boys, look at that. Look
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: at that that senior year stat line alone, seventy one
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: seven fifty. That was like a Rakeem's entire career. Yeah,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: one's playing at Maryland. One's playing the School of the Blind.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: What schools? Yeah, exactly.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: He's the first first American German history.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, ain't no big time, I mean not that big tents. Great,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: Maryland's a little better.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 4: Give me Miller over freaking Jared for sure, give me
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: Miller over rock hands.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: All right, what are we doing? We gotta have what
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: what are we doing a little hundred. You want something else,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: I'm not. Can't let this fly.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: I like doing let's do one hundred two one hundred,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: you guys, I like I like doing fun stuff.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: Let me you don't do it. I'm waiting on the show. Yeah,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: the shoe's calm.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: It's gonna get gonna coincide with the dak Prescott burning
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: of the Jersey.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: After election day when things, if they don't go your way,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: Hoop's gonna be lighting his whole room on fire. Plus
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: put some years down and everything. So maybe we'll get
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: a full on, just a onslaught of just release.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it could be. It could be rough for your boy.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: We'll see.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: What was I gonna just say that you just reminded
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: me of something else? Was Ryan Miller? Oh man? I
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: forget the chat was all over it the first one
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: in Firman history. And then what did you guys say
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: after that? I can't find it. I don't know title.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: What were you gonna say? You're gonna say something else?
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, No, I don't even think I was gonna.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: I just wanted I wanted some of hoops, cheeser Hoop
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: do something funny because Ryan Miller ain't now scormorks.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: And I don't got the street crowd on doing stuff
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: fun because I still love the shoey from like months ago, marrying.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: His whole reputation and credibility. I'm not doing a shoey
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: that seconds to get out of the way. You should
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: go grab one right now.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: I'll do it tomorrow night. I'll line it up with
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: the election stuff.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: I'm going to an election party, so maybe I'll find
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: some time to drop a shoeye.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: This guy just posted. Man, someone must be out Instagram. Baby,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: this is what I'm talking about. No other show got this.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: They're not in on it like we are. We prepare you.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: What is the the saying proper preparation prevents piss poor performance.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: Drop all those p's on you. So what is it?
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: I think it's previous Proper preparation prevents piss poor performance,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: and that's what we're doing tonight. Let's go see. Maybe
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: he knows that one of these dudes is out and
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: he just got the word and he's pumped to make
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: things happen. He's gonna be in the pool tonight for sure.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: Title Any final thoughts from you before we get out
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: of here?
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: Nah, just one quick question, what the heck goes on
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: at an election party? And when it goes if it
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: goes south, how bad does it get there?
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: I don't find out it's at the neighbor's house. So
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: I'm about to find out the first one.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: So you know, they you know, the one thing if
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: you're going to an election party, like you know, obviously
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: we got through the show. One thing, if you're going
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 4: to election party, you got to make sure everybody at
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: the party is the same side as you, right, Like,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: you can't go to an election party with like opposite side.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: So this party, for sure, I know everyone is on
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: my side, so it makes it a little easier, right.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: You know, you either celebrate together or you're you know,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: non celebrating together, pissed off. So that's the number one
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: rule I've made sure before committing It was like everyone
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: kind of just feel in the same way. They're like, oh, yeah,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 4: you have nothing to worry about. So that's that's step one.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: Then you can have fun food, drinks and all that
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: sort of thing.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone, I mean, just got to put water on
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: the fire. We're as hot as can be here, Like
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: your more? Can we play every This is not what
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: the show is there's tons of hot take shows out there.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: You want exactly what we're doing, go to the site,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: go to ship at nation dot com. This is talking
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: through how we would handle a slate with all the
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: things at hand. Nobody even knows who's playing yet for
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: the bucks, Like, how would someone tell you what to
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: do tonight? So when you want a final playerpool, you
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: want a final slate plan, I want to discuss it
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: with other people that are trying to get ahead like
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: you are. Apparently, then get in the discord, do all
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: that it's not just a ghost. Sign up and give
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: us money and you're in. It costs nothing. It's like
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: two bucks a day and you get every sport we carry.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: We don't care. We're here to help people make money,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: have fun. Talk it through and hopefully people can find
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: the top. And if you go to x and look
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: up at ship a Nation, you can see all the
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: people that found tons of success this past weekend on
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: very little buy in, so some people know how to
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: figure it out. Appreciate you, deval Appreciate you coming through
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: as we're talking about an election party and having all
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: kinds of fun over here. But Hoop, I don't know
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: how you get the pass on the way and to
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: know who's on what side. And I once went to
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: a party for a college football or sorry, college basketball
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: NCAA and everyone was on the same team and it
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: was the round one and they lost, and I felt
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: like I was at a funeral. Everything was over. No
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: one snapped, but it was just the quietest worst thing
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: I've ever been involved in. I'm Canadian, so I wasn't
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: I'm in the States for this. I mean, I didn't
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: know how big it was. People had their socks pulled
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: up on their bandanas and shit like we're in repping
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: their team. I'm telling you. It was very somber after that.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: I'm just wondering if that's kind of how it goes,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: because it seems like it could be a way that
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: you could see things happen.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we were at a similar event at the where
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: was that the golf LI final that we were watching
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: the UFC pay per view card and everyone bet one
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 4: way and your boys stood up and said that you
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: guys are idiots. I'm going the other way. And I
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: think I have one other dude. I need lunch money, right,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: good guy who's wont a ton of money?
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: Nice dude? Him and I ran the you know, and
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: one on the right side of the easy bat, easy.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: Cheese, and room got pretty quiet at that point, and
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: you were there, you witnessed they got real quiet.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I can imagine it would be something like that.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: But any any other final thoughts through my friend. We're
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: getting out of here after this. It's last showdown slate
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: of week now, last slate really of week nine for
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: the NFL, which means we hit the double digits. Coming
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: up on Thursday. We'll be back on the Male Media
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: Network the Trio of Us. But any final thoughts from
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: you who before we get out of here? Uh?
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 4: No, Like always, we'll get the content up nice and
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: early shortly after this show and then obviously get in
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 4: the discorder.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: But definitely watch for inactives.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, those guys didn't practice late in
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: the week and limited practice on Saturdays, so I wouldn't
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 4: be surprised if one of those wide receivers for Tampa
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 4: Bay is ruled out and then we can jam in
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 4: our guy Ryan Miller.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: Miller over to the Rock.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: No, you're crazy, all right, I'm going Rock, but I.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: Mean I'm definitely I'm playing both either way. So for
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: what it's worth.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. I'm building the best Rock lineup
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: I can come up with. Right after for that, Eric
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: made a good one at the end to my Yankee
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: watch party was pretty grim. I bet it was, Yeah,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: especially on that last game when you guys thought you
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: had it done and then not. The case came back
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: and stormed it and got through.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: So all right, here's what we do. If If, If
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: the Rock, If the Rock, or Ryan Miller. We're gonna
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: make this a bonus for everybody. Right, there's gonna be
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: a bonus for everyone. So either Rock, Ryan Miller score
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: a touchdown.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 6: We'll come back on what the whaty today Monday, will
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 6: come back on Thursday, and we'll do a membership for
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 6: the rest of the NFL season for somebody and one
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 6: hundred dollars ticket for a member.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: All right, I'd love to see that. That's how he
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: gets that he noticed he still didn't mention the shoey
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: beat anywhere in there because he found it.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: That's a deflection pushed off.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: Everyone's excited about the giveaway, so they're not looking not
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: looking this way, Hoop.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: Already in election mode. A true politician. We appreciate you guys.
• 1:08:21
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