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Introducing...My Gay Friend! · Armstrong & Getty One More Thing

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Speaker 1: All right, I'm introducing my gay friend Greg to Armstrong
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Speaker 1: and Getty. It's one more thing, arm Strong and.
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Speaker 2: Getty, one more thing, Well go ahead then alrighty, well guys,
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Speaker 2: this is Greg Gory.
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Speaker 1: He is one of my best friends. He was the
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Speaker 1: man of honor. You know how ladies have their maid
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Speaker 1: of honor. I had a man of honor and it
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Speaker 1: was Greg Gory. He is on the Woody Show based
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Speaker 1: out of la off of Ault ninety eighty seven, and
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Speaker 1: he's gay.
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Speaker 3: I'm so honored by that intro, Katie. That was awesome.
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Speaker 3: And just for the record, I was the person of honor, true,
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Speaker 3: the person of honor.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, how enlightened of everyone. So I like the fact
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Speaker 4: that she at least like puts your professional accomplishments in
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Speaker 4: front of your sexual orientation.
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Speaker 3: No, and that's what I appreciate, because you know, people
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Speaker 3: who are gay like to make that number one out
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Speaker 3: of one hundred. In my case, it's just one out
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Speaker 3: of one hundred things. It's not my identity. A lot
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Speaker 3: of people like to make it the cornerstone of their identity.
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Speaker 3: And for me, coming out is gay way easier than
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Speaker 3: coming out as conservative when you're gay.
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Speaker 5: Oh, Okay, so you're a conservative gay man.
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Speaker 3: I am, you know, lifelong right wing Trump supporting Republican
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Speaker 3: and that's why I don't mesh well in the gay world.
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Speaker 3: And that's why June weatherwise one of my favorite months,
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Speaker 3: but politically one of my least favorite months. I can't
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Speaker 3: stand it.
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Speaker 4: You know, Greg, you're working when we're working. Yeah, but
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Speaker 4: Katie might have told you. I Joe rant a fair
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Speaker 4: amount about how the concept of gay pride, which I
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Speaker 4: totally understand coming from the time when you're supposed to
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Speaker 4: be mortally ashamed of being gay, has morphed into you
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Speaker 4: must be down with every angle aspect of radical queer theory,
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Speaker 4: gender theory, theory in general. And that makes me insane,
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Speaker 4: and actually several of my gay friends it makes them
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Speaker 4: insane too.
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Speaker 3: Well. I'm actually kind of comforted to hear that, because
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Speaker 3: I thought I was all alone in that. And you're
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Speaker 3: totally right, Joe. If you look at the history of
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Speaker 3: what we now call gay pride, it stems from, you know,
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Speaker 3: a place of like you said, you had to be
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Speaker 3: in the shadows. It was maybe even illegal, it was ostracized.
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Speaker 3: It is morphed into this thing that is for somebody
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Speaker 3: like me is frankly super embarrassing. First of all, being
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Speaker 3: gay shouldn't be a source of pride. It's not an accomplishment.
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Speaker 3: I'm not proud that I gratulations, you know exactly. I'm
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Speaker 3: not proud that I'm a human being who walks. It's
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Speaker 3: just what I am. They My issue with pride is
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Speaker 3: that they have hijacked the exact thing that you just mentioned,
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Speaker 3: what it used to be, how it used to be,
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Speaker 3: how you used to be treated, and in order to
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Speaker 3: honor that, and then as a gay guy who is
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Speaker 3: not into pride, I get shamed constantly. You are ignoring
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Speaker 3: the people that fought for our rights. No, I'm not.
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Speaker 3: What you're doing is dishonoring the people who fought for
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Speaker 3: our rights, because if you go out into the street,
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Speaker 3: you get completely annihilated, wasted. You put on spandex mini
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Speaker 3: skirt and roller blades and a boa and face glitters,
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Speaker 3: and then you have public sex that somehow shows pride.
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Speaker 3: To me, that shows embarrassment. I'm proud that I have
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Speaker 3: a good career. I'm proud that I have a partner
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Speaker 3: of fourteen years. I'm proud that I own a really
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Speaker 3: nice house, I'm proud of my accomplishments. There's nothing to
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Speaker 3: be proud of as far as being gay goes. And
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Speaker 3: the people that are into Pride number one, they always say,
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Speaker 3: we're so accepting, we're so open minded. No, try to
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Speaker 3: go to a Pride parade and have a point of
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Speaker 3: view that's ever so slightly different. You are gonna be
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Speaker 3: the enemy. You're gonna be called a bad gay, bad gay. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: I've been called that a thousand times. It's kind of
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Speaker 3: the equivalent if you call an African American person who
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Speaker 3: has their own mind, Oh you might, You're a sellout,
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Speaker 3: You're an yal tom. I'm a bad gay because I
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Speaker 3: don't walk lockstep with the gay pride.
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Speaker 5: I'm trying to do the math on this in my head.
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Speaker 5: So if like three percent of the population is gay,
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Speaker 5: and then half of that three percent is men, then
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Speaker 5: you get down to the conservative percentage of that. There
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Speaker 5: must be like two people in the country you could
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Speaker 5: have dated.
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Speaker 3: It's me and my best friend Jim. We're the two
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Speaker 3: years that two, we're the two Well.
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Speaker 5: Seriously, though, like, how many people would agree with you
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Speaker 5: on this even if they are otherwise politics? You know, conservative,
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Speaker 5: Republican whatever wouldn't be the same. How many people do
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Speaker 5: you do you run into? They also think the whole
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Speaker 5: pride thing is a little over the top at this.
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Speaker 3: Point, politics aside. I have met a handful of people
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Speaker 3: who are gay who are not into gay pride. They
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Speaker 3: think the same thing. I'd rather stay home or I'm
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Speaker 3: proud of what I've done, not just who I am
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Speaker 3: or what my sexuality is. I shouldn't even say who
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Speaker 3: I am because it's not who I am that I
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Speaker 3: think is a little bit more common than if you're
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Speaker 3: conservative and anti pride. For lack of a better way
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Speaker 3: to explain it, but I don't see it that much.
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Speaker 3: I have done a few things where I've tried to
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Speaker 3: reach out to people of like minds, such as the
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Speaker 3: log Cabin Republicans. I wasn't intelligent enough to hang out
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Speaker 3: with them. That's all they did was talk about the
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Speaker 3: minutia and DC, which I don't really know about. I
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Speaker 3: just know that when people say, how can you be
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Speaker 3: good and be a Republican? Okay, who you sleep with
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Speaker 3: at night doesn't affect my brain. I still have a brain.
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Speaker 3: Tax policy, then thank you. My tax policy, border policy,
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Speaker 3: everything that actually affects your life, and when they you
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Speaker 3: hear this cliche every year, every especially every election cycle. Oh,
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Speaker 3: we're gonna lose our rights. And I have asked this
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Speaker 3: question for years and years and years and years, even
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Speaker 3: in my talk radio days, where I would like somebody,
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Speaker 3: I defy somebody. And you can apply this to women too,
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Speaker 3: with all due respect, What rights as a gay guy
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Speaker 3: don't I have? What rights as a woman? Does a
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Speaker 3: woman not have? I have every right that anybody else has. Nobody,
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Speaker 3: even the flag burning liberal gay guys, can't answer that
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Speaker 3: question for me. What right don't I have? I have
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Speaker 3: all my rights, nothing's being taken away. It's paranoia.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well right, if you've been studying politics for a
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Speaker 4: lifetime as we have, it's absolutely transparent fear monitoring to
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Speaker 4: get people to go to the polls and donate money.
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Speaker 4: It's just you're under threat. Is the most common political
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Speaker 4: pitch of well, probably last five thousand years, honestly. But yeah,
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Speaker 4: are you familiar with the Twitter account Gaye against Groomers.
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Speaker 3: I have heard of it. Yeah, I'm not too active
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Speaker 3: on Twitter, but I do do know that.
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Speaker 4: Good for you. Number one, They've got four hundred and
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Speaker 4: twenty eight thousand followers. I have no idea how many
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Speaker 4: of those are gay folks, but their description of who
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Speaker 4: they are is a nonprofit of gays, lesbians and others
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Speaker 4: in the community against the sexualization, indoctrination, and medicalization of
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Speaker 4: children under the guise of lgbt Q I A plus
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Speaker 4: which brings me to another one of my jihads as
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Speaker 4: as a dad, especially of three wonderfully unique and nutty
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Speaker 4: now adult children, all of whom happen to be straight.
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Speaker 4: But we're a quirky punch. I see this movement of
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Speaker 4: telling an effeminate boy that he's actually a girl and
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Speaker 4: needs hormones, then surgery as one of the most horrific
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Speaker 4: and cruel things humanity has ever done. And I think
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Speaker 4: before long we will look back on this era with horror.
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Speaker 4: To what extent? Do you agree?
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Speaker 3: I agree, I see your point, and I raise your point.
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Speaker 3: I think the wrong questions are asked of those of
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Speaker 3: us who believe what you just said. They ask us,
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Speaker 3: why are you a bigot? Why don't you want drag
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Speaker 3: queens reading to children? The question should be why do
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Speaker 3: you want drag queen saying?
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Speaker 4: What's the Who came up with this? What is the
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Speaker 4: what are you trying to accomplish here?
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Speaker 3: Right? Why don't they go to retirement communities and read
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Speaker 3: to them. Why do we have to get children involved? Also,
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Speaker 3: I recall retirement communities, there's gonna be a lot of
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Speaker 3: eighty year old.
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Speaker 4: Dudes saying, what the hell is it?
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Speaker 3: That's true? Maybe that's not the right venue.
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Speaker 4: You got a shave baby. No, it's to indoctrinate the
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Speaker 4: children into radical gender theory.
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Speaker 3: At one hundred percent, And unfortunately the data is not in.
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Speaker 3: You know, these studies might take decades. We're too new
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Speaker 3: into this phenomenon. And when you look at the phenomenon,
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Speaker 3: to me, it's interesting. You see it really only in
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Speaker 3: certain cities. You don't go to Tuscaloosa and find eighty
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Speaker 3: four kids saying I think I'm a girl. When I
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Speaker 3: was a kid, I thought I was James Bond and
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Speaker 3: night Rider. You know, I wasn't given an Aston Martin
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Speaker 3: because I thought I was James Bond. Much like if
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Speaker 3: I thought I was a girl. They're not going to
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Speaker 3: mutilate my body. The phenomenon to me is weird. I
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Speaker 3: think it's just gotten, I don't know, popular, for lack
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Speaker 3: of a better word. It's strange. What you know, that
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Speaker 3: whole thing that only recently I believe the AMA downgraded
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Speaker 3: it from a mental disorder. But with all due respect
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Speaker 3: to the trans people, if you believe you're something else,
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Speaker 3: it doesn't make it. So as far as the grooming goes,
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Speaker 3: I do think it's grooming because again, people are asking
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Speaker 3: the wrong question. It's not that I'm bigoted because I
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Speaker 3: don't want drag queens talking to kids. The question should
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Speaker 3: be why do you want to talk to the kids.
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Speaker 3: And to take it a step further, people say, oh,
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Speaker 3: you know, I have let's just say a five year
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Speaker 3: old son. I'm teaching him all the things that you
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Speaker 3: have to accept about gays and lesbians and trans How
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Speaker 3: about not talking about any of it. They're going to
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Speaker 3: learn it as life progresses. Why do we have to
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Speaker 3: force them at a young age to even learn that
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Speaker 3: there's Think back to when we were kids. Did I
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Speaker 3: didn't know there was such thing as gay? I had
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Speaker 3: my idea.
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Speaker 5: I have a twelve year old he's just got out
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Speaker 5: of sixth grade, and he's been talking about gay, lesbian
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Speaker 5: trans stuff since he was like eight or nine, because
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Speaker 5: they talk about it in school all the time.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't even imagine that atmosphere. I mean, we
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Speaker 3: had to get permission to take sex ed in school,
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Speaker 3: and now kids in kindergarten are, you know, learning about
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Speaker 3: drag queens.
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Speaker 4: I don't.
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Speaker 3: It literally makes no sense to me. And then to
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Speaker 3: me that whole side of this, I don't know. Let's
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Speaker 3: call it the gay world. It kind of makes us
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Speaker 3: all look stupid, and it makes us look one sided,
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Speaker 3: and it makes us look like we have an agenda.
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Speaker 3: And it also what it does as far as gay
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Speaker 3: youth coming up again, and you know, having been a
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Speaker 3: man who was married to a woman once because of
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Speaker 3: denying who I was and trying to live a different life.
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Speaker 3: When I finally came out very late in life, I
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Speaker 3: was in my thirties. What would have helped me younger
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Speaker 3: is not to have the Pride movement, because people such
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Speaker 3: as my parents or people of their generation would see
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Speaker 3: these Pride parades on TV, for example, they would look
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Speaker 3: at the crowds, look at the outfits, look at the behavior,
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Speaker 3: look at the public sex, look at the drunken debauchery
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Speaker 3: and the idiotic behavior, and it would make them go
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Speaker 3: from I think I might be accepting of this to wow,
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Speaker 3: look at these freaks. It's such a mess. And that's
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Speaker 3: exactly how I was raised. And it made me delay
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Speaker 3: being who I am because they gave me a bad name,
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Speaker 3: they gave me a baddebt.
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Speaker 5: That is such a great point because that's what I
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Speaker 5: didn't That's what I thought being gay was was the
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Speaker 5: stuff I see on TV from the San Francisco Pride parade, right.
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Speaker 4: Because that's all I'd ever been exposed to.
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Speaker 5: So I thought, man, that's a bunch of crazy people, right, And.
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Speaker 4: The brilliance of the gay rights movement in say the
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Speaker 4: seventies and eighties was excuse me, I'm your accountant, I'm
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Speaker 4: your neighbor, I'm your coworker. Right, I'm your friend. So
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Speaker 4: I've never worn assless chaps once in my life. Well,
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Speaker 4: all chat show fundamental misunderstanding of chaps.
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Speaker 3: And while we're doing fun facts, there's no such thing
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Speaker 3: as straight people, just sober people. So good one. No,
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Speaker 3: but you're totally right. The gay pride movement originally for me,
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Speaker 3: was to show, Hey, we're just living our lives. We're
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Speaker 3: just going to the grocery store, we're just going to work. Now,
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Speaker 3: it's like, look, I'm a victim. I'm always a victim.
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Speaker 3: Why do you hate me? Why are you a bigot?
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Speaker 3: I'm not going to go to vacation to a regular resort.
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Speaker 3: I have to go to a gay resort. I'm going
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Speaker 3: to go to the baseball game when it's gay night
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Speaker 3: at the ballpark?
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Speaker 4: Right?
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Speaker 3: Why do we want so badly to be victory and
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Speaker 3: to constantly put ourselves in boxes that, as far as
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Speaker 3: I can see, maybe I'm completely wrong, But as far
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Speaker 3: as I can see, I don't think society is trying
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Speaker 3: to define me or put me into a box or
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Speaker 3: label me one way. That's self imposed. This victim mentality.
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Speaker 4: Well, you are only useful politically, Greg if you are
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Speaker 4: put in that box. If you think independently, you're not.
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Speaker 4: And I won't wear you out with this stuff, but
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Speaker 4: we talked about it for amount on our show. It's
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Speaker 4: all branches in Neo Marxism because workers of the World
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Speaker 4: unite didn't work, and so they're trying to tear down
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Speaker 4: the West and Western civilization with sexual minorities of the
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Speaker 4: world unite, racial minorities of the world unite. If you
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Speaker 4: are at all oppressed, you must tear down the oppressed sore.
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Speaker 4: It's all well, it's Marxism under different guys.
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Speaker 3: And the scary thing to me is how many people
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Speaker 3: fall for it. I have, like I mentioned, a couple
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Speaker 3: friends who are conservative like I am, who just see
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Speaker 3: facts for facts. They don't worry about our rights are
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Speaker 3: going to be taken away in all those stupid cliches
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Speaker 3: which are not true. But the amount of people who
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Speaker 3: do fall for it, and they say, oh, you're right,
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Speaker 3: our rights are going to be taken away. I remember
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Speaker 3: the night Trump got elected. I finally went to bet.
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Speaker 3: I get up at two in the morning. I went
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Speaker 3: to bed at like one thirty in the morning, took
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Speaker 3: a thirty minute nap with a smile in my face, thinking, okay,
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Speaker 3: good he won. Meanwhile, all my mega lefty gay friends
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Speaker 3: are on Twitter crying, well, today's the day that goes
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Speaker 3: down in history that we lost all our rights. Oh yeah,
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Speaker 3: And now here we are in retrospect looking at how
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Speaker 3: great those four years were, and I'm thinking, okay, can
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Speaker 3: you again answer me for the fiftieth time, what rights
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Speaker 3: did we lose? I don't recall any they and if
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Speaker 3: they want to point to, you know, we're not going
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Speaker 3: to pay for trans surgery in the military Okay, cool,
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Speaker 3: Maybe try a different venue for your your lifestyle surgery,
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Speaker 3: you know, getting the Marines. Yeah, don't rely on the
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Speaker 3: Marines for it.
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Speaker 5: I was trying to remember where I first came across
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Speaker 5: a split in the in the lifestyle of the community.
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Speaker 5: I think it was on the Daily Show, but I'm
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Speaker 5: not positive this. This was quite a few years ago
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Speaker 5: that Minneapolis was named the best gay city in America
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Speaker 5: or something like that, and San.
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Speaker 4: Francisco was outraged.
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Speaker 5: But whatever show this was, and I think it was
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Speaker 5: a daily show featured like a couple, and it was
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Speaker 5: just a couple of dudes who like, had regular jobs
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Speaker 5: and wore regular clothes and didn't go to gay pride
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Speaker 5: parades or anything like that. They mostly went to Costco
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Speaker 5: on the weekends. And they were just and so San
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Speaker 5: Francisco was outraged that they were held up as a
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Speaker 5: gay couple because they weren't doing the thing.
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Speaker 3: They weren't being all, you know, flamboyant and crazy and
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Speaker 3: over the top and drunk more than likely the gays
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Speaker 3: like to drink, which is true.
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Speaker 4: Well, we could bond. Sorry, you were gonna make a
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Speaker 4: point know that.
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Speaker 3: I mean, that's what I strive for and I think
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Speaker 3: that's why this whole let's call it a movement is wrong.
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Speaker 3: That's what they should strive for. Hey, I'm just living
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Speaker 3: my life. I don't have to ostracize myself. I don't
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Speaker 3: have to go out of my way to make such
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Speaker 3: a spectacle. Pride would be fine. They just need to
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Speaker 3: change the name to like Big Gay Day or Big
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Speaker 3: Gay Month. You know, I think the word pride, you know,
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Speaker 3: it bothers me when people go, oh, I'm so proud
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Speaker 3: to be Irish. Okay, well you didn't win, you didn't
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Speaker 3: accomplish Irish.
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Speaker 4: Tell us about your journey to becoming an Irish man?
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Speaker 3: Right, how did you pass that testable?
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Speaker 4: You know, Greg, you made reference to this earlier, but
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Speaker 4: we've we've long said the true white privilege is you
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Speaker 4: get to think however you want and vote however you want.
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Speaker 4: And it occurs to me that's like the straight privilege too.
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Speaker 4: I can be of whatever political stripe I want, and
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Speaker 4: and people might reason with me to try to get
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Speaker 4: me to change, but they're not going to call me
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Speaker 4: a bad straight guy.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 3: Oh, good point, good pointly man, you get just crucified.
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Speaker 3: And I've had screaming fights with people who are trying
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Speaker 3: to convince me that I hate myself, that I hate
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Speaker 3: my people. You know, I don't hate anybody. The thing
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Speaker 3: is they want so desperately to be hated so they
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Speaker 3: can be a victims. It's this endless cycle. It's embarrassing.
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Speaker 5: Do you talk about this on your good When I
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Speaker 5: did music radio, I never talked politics at all. Do
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Speaker 5: you talk about this aspect of your life on your
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Speaker 5: show or not?
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Speaker 3: You know I this particular aspect I do the politics.
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Speaker 3: Everything I just told you about Trump and all that
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Speaker 3: I keep very well hidden. It's way too polarizing. But
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Speaker 3: I have discussed how I'm not a fan of Pride
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Speaker 3: for these exact reasons. And then every year our company
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Speaker 3: they put out these questionnaires to on air talents saying,
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Speaker 3: you know, what are you into? What would you like
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Speaker 3: to endorse? Is there anything that you won't be a
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Speaker 3: part of? Because every year every June I get asked, oh,
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Speaker 3: are you going to be in the the parade for
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Speaker 3: the company? I said, absolutely not. Read the questionnaire that
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Speaker 3: you give me. Every year, I tell you I will
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Speaker 3: not take part in Pride. It's a source of embarrassment.
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Speaker 3: But yeah, on FM radio, we really kind of steer
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Speaker 3: clear of politics in general. We'll talk about the big stuff, Oh,
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Speaker 3: the debate is coming up or whatever, the election, but
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Speaker 3: we won't really reveal our true politics. I used to
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Speaker 3: back in the day, in of all places, San Francisco,
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Speaker 3: when I was doing morning radio in San Francisco is
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Speaker 3: an outspoken conservative. But to be fair, it was before
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Speaker 3: I came out of the closet, so okay, But then
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Speaker 3: then fast forward several years, I did talk politics a
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Speaker 3: lot after I came out, And also to be fair,
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Speaker 3: I got a bit of flak from traditional conservatives like
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Speaker 3: how dare you be on our conservative talk station if
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Speaker 3: you're gay? And this, that and the other. So I've
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Speaker 3: gotten it from all directions. It's not an easy Even
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Speaker 3: though I rallied against putting yourself in a box, it's
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Speaker 3: not an easy box to be in.
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Speaker 5: Sure at all. And I think the best point made
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Speaker 5: is that all chaps are ass lists. You got to
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Speaker 5: learn one new thing a day.
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Speaker 4: That's mine. I tell you what if the wife appeared
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Speaker 4: in the bedroom wearing chaps like that cow who, It's
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Speaker 4: a day that will not be forgotten. Greg really really
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Speaker 4: enjoyed the chat, and don't forget that I think the
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Speaker 4: vast majority of people say he's a good human being.
19:30
Speaker 4: I don't care about anything else. I hope the loud,
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Speaker 4: nasty voices out there.
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Speaker 3: I hope. I hope you're right because people have got
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Speaker 3: to get out of the victim mentality and they got
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Speaker 3: to stop falling for the fear mongering that you brought up.
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Speaker 4: Appreciate your time.
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Speaker 3: Go back to being gay, Joe Jack. Thank you, guys,
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Speaker 3: and I definitely will.
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Speaker 4: Thanks and Katie thanks for making the introduction.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you Katie, she's the best.
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Speaker 4: Go back to being.
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Speaker 3: I probably will. He say, Well, you know it's it's
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Speaker 3: a little early, but tonight I promise I'll make good
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Speaker 3: on that promise.
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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, see.
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Speaker 3: You, Thanks guys.
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Speaker 1: Well, tomorrow will introduce my friend John.
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Speaker 3: He's gay, I mean he's blind. That's one of my
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Speaker 3: all time favorite clips, my best clip ever. He climbed
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Speaker 3: Mount Everest. But he's gay.
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Speaker 4: You Eric Wyhan Mayor, who climbed the highest mountain in
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Speaker 4: the world, Mount Everest. But he's gay, I mean he's gay.
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Speaker 4: Excuse me, he's blind. So okay, as the break, all right,
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Speaker 4: now the podcast is over all right,