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PAX Aus Special: Star Citizen Panel & PAX Australia 2014 Recap · Multiple Nerdgasm

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[Music] welcome to multiple
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nerdgasm your destination for all things
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nerdy so we're back yet again and we're short yet another person but we have a
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reason for it this time yeah well well sort of it's just the two of us today
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Luke and I because we're the only ones that went to PS yeah uh we wanted to
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talk about p and we didn't want to bore the others well not that they'd be bored
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but they could just listen to the podcast on their own like the rest of
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our listeners for this time exactly so um so yeah we were just down in
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Melbourne for for four or five days and
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uh yeah we went down to the Australian packs Edition yes uh that's the second
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one we've been to Luke I actually got a shock cuz I know they sold more tickets
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than they did last year right but it didn't seem as full yeah absolutely I'll
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agree with that I think one of the reasons might be the new venue mhm uh it
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is now at the Melbourne convention and Exhibition
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Center um which is in my opinion far
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superior than the shrs yes it's basically like uh it's it's more like
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the Boston packs yeah everything's in that one place it's easy to find yeah
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it's just all under the one roof um there's plenty of rooms plenty of um
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seating in all the areas um you don't have to walk very far to get from one
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thing to the other uh I I never found
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that I was as I guess squished in
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anywhere um this might actually be my favorite venue out of all of them now
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I'm lucky enough that I've been to all well I should I had been to all of the
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paxes until they announced pack South which hasn't happened yet but um I've
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been to PX Prime and PX East and Pax and I think this the new Pao venue is now my
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favorite um and is confirmed as the venue for Paar for the next 5 years one
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thing I'm wondering is if next year they try and sell more tickets that's
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probably true they probably will um because yeah they can yep well one thing
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I noticed that every single panel I went to and I'd forget the panel was on and
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I'd get there 5 minutes before I was about to start yeah that's never
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happened always packs before in fact there's a you know there's a running
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joke at conventions in general if you don't skip the panel before the panel
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you won't you won't get to see it yep I just walked into every panel that I
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wanted to see sometimes 5 minutes late there was seating and the lines were
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never too long it was great which don't get me wrong I love that and I I hope it
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stays like that but I have a feeling that they're probably going to sell a
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few more tickets to and that won't happen again yeah well I guess it
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depends on the capacity of the the place uh I don't have I don't think we we
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couldn't find numbers on how many people attended just yet um I'm sure the
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information will be available at some point but if they weren't at capacity
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then that that's probably true if they were then well that's awesome like just
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just keep let's just keep this going cuz it's excellent another thing about the
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venue is that I felt it's in a I think it's in a much better spot in Melbourne
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than than the show grounds because where
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you know we stayed um on the same side of the river as as the Exhibition Center
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and while it does seem to be a bit of a expensive area because it's very um I
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guess touristy um it's it's very nice and it's very easy to walk from the hotel to the
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venue and then you can actually get to the city really really quickly like you
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just walk over a bridge and up the street and you're in in Melbourne itself
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so it's just yeah it's just excellent yep just really really liked everything
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about it this year and and I think as a result we spent a lot more time at packs
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than we normally do um yeah I know definitely last year I think
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on the Saturday I just didn't go at all this year I was there every day and for
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most of it I think on the Friday night I didn't leave there till after 10: yeah
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see I I find it can be very draining um things like that um and especially
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because I know I'm a bit of an introvert at times and when I get to events like
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that sometimes you know like I need to take a break constantly trying to move
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move past people and be L and and you know like and chatting and people cuz
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like you know people as Dave has pointed out in the past people are very very
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keen to to chat so yeah sometimes I need a break but this time I think just
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because of how close it was to to everything in the hotel and that I I
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spent way more time actually at the event than than I ever have with the
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lines there's actually as a Twitter account um if anybody's not familiar
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with it P _ lines we discovered that afterwards just while we were looking into stuff
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about the lines because um we didn't actually need it this time but uh if if
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it does get busy next year and people people need to know what's going on the
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lines like for example they'll tell you if a line is is too full for example the
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I think the only one that got close and I don't know if they actually hit
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capacity was the um the final of the omegathon okay I I didn't go to or go to
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that one I didn't either but I think the only reason that one might have been
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full is because at that stage that's the only thing that's on that's true and
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they're closing everything else down so if you want to if you want to do
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something that's the thing to do and it's the closing ceremony too if you
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want to hold on to your packs experience that little bit longer that's where you
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go exactly yeah or you go to a pub and play play more tabletop games
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yeah yeah so I I think in general this is the best venue in my opinion uh I
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think the organization was great I think the layout was great um it it just seems
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more organized and less stressful for someone like me than something like
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Supernova I love Supernova um but this
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was just so easy like I never felt like oh god well I guess I'm not going in
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that direction because there were too many people or anything like that it was
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it's really good so what were some of your highlights from the weekend well we
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uh obviously uh being PX we attended some of the panels mhm
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my I think my favorite panel was um the gearbox panel um and it actually got me
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playing Borderlands 2 again I was playing a bit of that yesterday um they
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showed us uh I mean some stuff about the Borderlands Pre-Sequel that's already
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out so I mean that wasn't a huge surprise except they
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announced um the the Jack the Handsome
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Jack um character as the first lot of DLC for that so you'll be able to play
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as Jack um so that's pretty cool uh then they
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showed us some footage of battleborn uh which looks really cool it kind of looks
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like uh I guess it's it's Borderlands but in a very very different scenario
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yeah they didn't really show much of that cuz I think that's still very into
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the development phase but did remind me a lot of Borderlands that's fine with me
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I love Borderlands um and this kind like I said it kind of looks like they're
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just taking everything they learned from Borderlands and making the next thing um
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which I think is good I think um it's not necessarily wise for them to stray
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too far from that since it's no I mean they're really good at it so that's fine
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actually um was one thing I heard at that that panel cuz I know it's probably
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been out on the internet everyone knew about it but the second playthrough of
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botland Pre-Sequel gets narrated by Tiny Tina yeah I didn't know that uh I I
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didn't know that so now I want to play through and get to my second play
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through a lot faster now yeah well I've to buy the game now like I said I was
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like ah don't feel like playing more waterlands and then after I saw the
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panel I was like I'm going to buy that so yeah uh oh and the uh Tales of
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Borderland tales of the Borderlands um the new ttel game yeah we saw some some
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footage from that and um we heard one of the guys from Telltale talk about it a
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bit and then they gave us all a free copy of it yep the full season which
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when we went to PX East last year we should have known
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that they were going to give something away cuz they did exactly the same thing
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at PA East I suspected they give us something I thought they' do what they
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did last year and give us a character from the Borderlands game yeah I thought
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we'd be getting Jack when they announced Jack I was like oh cool we're getting
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Jack that's awesome and then but no they gave us a full game yeah the whole
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season so um like man big thanks to to Randy and the guy guys from gearbox I
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know Dave still has a chip on his shoulder for the colonial Marines
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incident but uh I don't know in my book I think ry's redeemed himself yep I
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think it might be time to Let It Go Randy's giving us some stuff he's Mak
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he's making an effort yeah and he did a great magic trick little magic trick
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it's probably on YouTube if you want to check it out check out uh Randy
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pitchford's magic trick it was very good and the girl was uh entertainingly
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[Music] nervous poor thing oh the hand shaking when she had to try and pick up that cup
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yeah that was a good panel I like that um so now you can talk about home world
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because I know you're very excited about it well yes cuz that's a game that I
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played through a number of times the original one and the gearbox brought the
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rights to it yeah and they re they're releasing it soon yeah unfortunately I
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didn't get to see much gameplay they showed some screenshots yeah and they
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showed some of the revamped intro
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sequences and stuff yeah which uh the re looked cool but I really wanted to see
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some gameplay but the detail on the screenshots looks amazing yeah I mean we
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can assume the gamep play is the same I guess I mean if you've played it it's
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just yeah I'm sure it just looks a lot better yeah which I I'd be quite happy
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with that and I like how games are actually doing that now yeah just coming
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back going we're going to remake this we're not going to change anything we're
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just going to make it pretty for you and Away you go yeah the other one that I was very
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excited to see um was Chris Robert's
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panel about um Star Citizen and this one
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both excited me and made me sad why sad well I'm going to have to buy a new
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computer now oh yeah yeah yeah absolutely I want to play this game and
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there's no way my computer is going to run it yeah look I learned a lot about
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this game that I didn't even know I knew that it was going to be like freelancer
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and you know Privateer but I actually didn't realize the full scope of this
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thing and I am going to be amazed if if he can pull this off yeah that that is
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the other thing it's either going to be a amazing game with all these different
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modules where you're playing different games in one game yeah or it's going to
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be oh is this it yeah exactly exactly I
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don't know I I saw um uh while I was wondering the show floor on the Sunday I
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think on the Saturday night or the Friday night um they they released
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footage of the first person shooter module I don't so I don't know if you
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saw that but no no I haven't seen that okay they had it out uh on the like on a
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screen on the floor you could look at the footage of it and I mean it looks
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fine it's a you know looks like a first-person shooter um but I didn't get
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to play it so I don't know how it how it feels but yeah it's just so much scope
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to this thing it's like so for for the listeners Star Citizen is um is the new
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game from Chris Roberts who is uh he was a creator of Wing commander and um
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Privateer and freelancer and all those
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games you know the the kind of um the mo the biggest most popular Space games I
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suppose yeah and um so his new game which uh is being crowdfunded I think to
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the tune of 56 million or something now
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he's they' got and that's still growing yeah they still I've got to give money
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to it now yeah well I haven't backed it yet and uh and I mean they convinced me
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that that I at least want to check it out because like I said it's sounds
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insane so it's his new game um Star Citizen and basically it's the premise
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is that you set it's set in the future and you've got a ship and you can go
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anywhere and do whatever you want and you can you can land the ship on a
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planet and get out of the ship and walk around and do stuff and um you know like
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trade goods or whatever and then you can get back in
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take off go have a space battle and then there's modules for
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all aspects of life I suppose shooting flying you know the things we do dayto
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day it just sounds mental oh okay here's this cuz I've just got to go and have a
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look at the site now cuz I'm going to look at um pledging it looks like when
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they made that announcement at pxs with that panel they made an extra half a
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million dollars that day well one thing I I thought that was
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going to be great is the multiplayer accit um part of it where you can
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actually have four or five people in one ship yeah yeah that's one person flying
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with guns communication it just sounds amazing yeah man like the scope oh man
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it just sounds like the ultimate game uh well I mean space
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game yeah a lot of extra like you can you can play the way you want to play
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you can just have a job where you cry your stuff but the other thing is as well
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which the I was talking to a guy down on the um from at the booth and he
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um uh he talked a lot um to the point where I was like
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okay stop talking I'm going to give you money just stop talking um but he was
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telling me that um you have to like the
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tier that you support the game at uh affects the ship that you get like you
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can pay more to get a a better ship um but he said it's all achievable in game
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as well but you you can pay money to get more I
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guess better ships and all that kind of stuff as well so they're kind of I
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think going to make more money of people that way as well like well I was having a look at
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game packages just now and the starter ship I think comes with about
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$45 right what's the starter ship called uh what's it called here it is
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called the Aurora Mr yeah that's the one he said that you could just get and
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you'd be able to use in game to get everything else like you don't have to
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spend a whole lot of money if you don't want to you just have to play the game
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more there is one called the completionist which is
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$15,000 Jesus Christ they're out of stock that means people have purchased
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it that's insane yeah oh no that sorry
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that just includes every single ship right but yeah that means that people
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have purchased $155,000 so I know why they're making so much money yeah yeah
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we actually um I was a bit a bit sad because we passed Chris Roberts uh on on
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the floor at one point I made eye contact I said hi yeah uh he looked
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disheveled and in a hurry yep so uh
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unfortunately we didn't get to chat no yeah and I don't like being that
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person that does when you see someone on the like being that person thats and that
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awward conversation with them yeah unless I've got something very important
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or interesting to say I don't um cuz odds are they're only
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down there because they're going somewhere and they've got something to
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do oh yeah and he looked like he was in a hurry so I didn't want to I didn't
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want to be like oh Chris Chris Chris Chris cuz we're on a first name bases
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now yeah so yeah so Star Citizen man check that out if you're into space
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games it looks awesome well for what El being told cuz I think I was at
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that same booth you were talking to that guy I think I was talking to the girl
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down there cuz yeah she would not stop talking either and she was saying like
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they're probably two years away from a fullon release for this game yeah right
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yeah I'd be surprised if they weren't at least that far away and Chris has sort
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of said High inspect PCS today will be the minimum that you'll need when the
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game comes out right so I don't think I'm not running out to buy a new pc now
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M I might hold off for a bit so I can play it the way it deserves to be played
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yeah probably wise and I really hope it's good so do I yeah I know if it's a
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flop it'll be so disappointing but I mean yeah the thing is they've got
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because it's crowd fun of the the the I guess audience is uh audience the you
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know the the uh customer is involved in the creation you know they they got
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people beta testing and people suggesting things and it'll be
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interesting to see whether that helps or makes it a big pile of yeah you
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know because sometimes that can be a problem you know like too many cooks
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spoil the broth yeah the internet is very good at ruining things well not
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just the internet I work in development uh not not games but I work in software
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development and if you took all the feedback from all of your customers and
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tried to implement all of it it would be like you can't do that so it'll be
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interesting to see how it
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works um so other panels uh Penny Arcade
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panels funny and entertaining as always I went to the two q&as uh and the make a
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strip panel just because I find those guys entertaining um I've been a fan of
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Penny Arcade for a very very long time now so um yes so they make me laugh and
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uh that was interesting um one of the
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things about this packs that I noticed uh I don't know whether I was just
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looking for it more because of you know recent events
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online um I noticed that diversity is a big theme
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lately um in the panels and at packs itself um I don't you know I don't want
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to I don't want to be that guy and and I'm not complaining about it or anything
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like that I'm it's great that they're trying to include everybody
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um uh although I do feel like sometimes
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people are stretching to prove that they weren't included and they've we've got
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panels for things that that I didn't realize were even a concern like um are
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there fake Geeks and things like that I don't know why we need a panel about
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that who gives a like if people want to want to participate in our hobby
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then let them that's the thing I don't know how they can be fake they show an
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interest and they're trying to take part in it yeah I don't know it's just I
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thought that was a weird topic for a panel um obviously there were ones
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about um girls in gaming which is kind of a Hot Topic at the moment given
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things online and uh Anita sakesan was on Steven coar
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recently and things like that so that's all a Hot Topic at the moment uh I think
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I I think the panel was actually whether playing a male or female character or
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playing a female character does it make the game different I think that was that
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was I didn't actually go to the panel I'm going to be honest because because
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no no well I mean I'm I'm it I'm going to be honest that doesn't interest
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me like I'm not I'm not a female um and I don't play as females in games I know
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you guys do I do yeah maybe that would have appealed to you more but I think
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I'm pretty sure the premise of the panel was stuff like uh like in Mass Effect if
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you play as fem ship the the animations and things are kind of the same so she
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looks a bit Butch um I think it's stuff like that which is legitimate I guess if
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you want to you know make a female character then go all in and and make
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them female but I I didn't feel the need to go to a panel on it I think a lot of
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it might be to do with well I'm sure Fair bit of it is to do with um Mike
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From Penny arcade's issues online where
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he's uh said some stuff that was
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offensive because um I guess he's just a
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guy like us and I know I mean this is not an excuse but we grew up in an area
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where it was not uncommon for us to be
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um bombarded with I guess kind of homophobic and and and uh I don't know
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we're just exposed to that stuff a lot when we were kids like you know we got
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teased about that kind of stuff so it's just it's just become like a joke so and
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I think he he's probably very similar and and so he said made some stupid
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jokes and stuff online and he's got in all of trouble and they've created all
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this stuff to to combat that I think um so it's good they have a diversity room
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there as well um which again I didn't go to because I'm not I'm not part of a group that's
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misrepresented so um I said that didn't appeal to me but uh I think it's I think
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it's good if it makes people feel more welcome at packs and in gaming in
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general I think it's great like I'm not like like I said despite what I said
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before you know like we make we make shitty jokes sometimes and we joke about
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things that we we shouldn't um but I don't would never want to exclude
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anybody everybody come along to PA Pax is great we don't yeah yeah listeners if
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you're if you're from some minority like we welcome you you know we might make a
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silly joke every now and then but there's nothing behind it no there's
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nothing there it's just like I said we we dealt with some dumb people when we
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were young and it's made our sense of humor a bit strange that's really all it
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is so the other good thing that happens when you go to these things is you see a
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lot of Indie Games mhm did you play any I did I did I played a bunch uh cool I
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love checking out the um the indie games uh there are a lot this year compared to
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last year actually last year I recall I mean unless I missed something there was
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a small indie game section this year it was
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huge so um one of the games we played a little or quite a bit of was hyperdeath
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robot party uh which I really enjoyed um M uh
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you played that with us right yeah I did enjoy that yeah yeah so that's like a
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little Arena robot fighting thing where you uh it's kind of every there's four
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people on on the one screen and you have to basically shoot each other or shoot
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other robots um yeah it's a cool little
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arcade style shooter game mhm I think you'll find that uh I won
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those games that's probably true I suppose and then we had the team games
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um it was me Jenna who would win probably yeah well I'm going to blame
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the guy from SMG Studios for that then CU we the guy who made the game the guy
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who made the game yeah we'll blame him he was on my team so
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yeah uh you played a fish game I played
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a game called tasty fish it's it's actually a game that's been out on on
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mobile devices for a while yeah but um they they're trying to develop a version
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of it to be on the Xbox One using the connect and they were just there testing
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it out with the crowd to see if it was worth their time to maybe try and sell
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it I see on on the Xbox One um I thought it was a very fun game yeah and it may
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also help that they had a PRI they had a competition the highest score at the end
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of the day W uh headset right and I sort of won
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that it might be a little biased to why I think the game's good since I won but
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yeah so you you know obliged to enjoy that game I think yeah well I actually
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now downloaded the mobile version of it okay and I'm actually do hoping they
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release it on the Xbox one cuz I will probably pick it up all right so that's tasty
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fish what do what do you do in this game cuz I saw you playing it but I'm not
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quite sure I understand it you there's a school of fish that you need to keep
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alive pretty much need's fishermen that are trying to
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catch them there are sharks trying eat them and crabs as well and you just swim
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around and you can get pick up bubbles to try and increase your score but the
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whole idea is just to stay alive okay just like life really yeah all right I
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think they've captured that very well in the game the struggle between life and
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death yeah for a fish y all right what schol fish yeah yeah uh one more line we
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played again um we played that at EB Expo uh that's a fun mobile game I don't
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know if that's out yet I probably should have checked that but I didn't um but
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that's a fun game that's on um IOS and Android I believe uh where you you're a
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shape shooting up a a a track and you
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have to try and Dodge obstacles um by spinning around them uh you know it's
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very difficult to explain now that I'm attempting to do so um so it might be
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easier if you just Google one more online and uh and have a look at a video
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of the game it's very fun and addictive um and if you get a chance to play it at
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an event they usually have a competition to see who can get the highest score um
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because it's actually quite difficult
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so check that out um also played a game
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called enter chained by featherweight games which is um I think that was next
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to your T Fish game oh yes it would have been yeah I know one I didn't play that
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one okay well it was pretty fun busy with fish yeah obviously you know
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in entain you play a gladiator well you and your friends play as Gladiators uh I
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only played it two player I'm not sure if you can play more than two or less
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than two um but you are chained together in a gladiatorial
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Arena and increasing waves of difficulty
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of enemies come at you in the arena and you have to try and defeat them um but
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because you're chained together you have to work together to to fight them and
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are some of them you have to trip over with the chain before you can bash them
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to death and uh it's very very violent
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and bloody and um uh and and fun yeah so
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um check that out I think that's on Xbox Live already I believe that's already
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out um and it's probably on Steam as well that's by featherweight games that
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was fun um and the one other game that I
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wanted to mention was um Metal Dead 2 which is
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uh a game by walkthrough walls Studios it's like an adventure
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game that in a heavy metal
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um environment where you're I can't I'm not sure what the main character's story
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is he seems to be some kind of heavy metal fan or a guy of metal band but
27:45
it's it's like a kind of um gory horror heavy metal themed point-and-click
27:51
Adventure game like the old Lucas Arts games um but with a kind of horror um
27:57
heavy metal so and and a very very heavy soundtrack
28:03
and some dark humor so uh and they were handing out free copies of the first
28:08
game uh Metal Dead uh for people who played the demo of two so uh I'll play
28:14
through the first one at some point and maybe we'll talk about on the podcast at
28:17
some point in future but yeah that was that was cool there was one called
28:21
screen ride I think it was it's coming out on the Xbox one so I think it's part
28:26
of their ID or actually be mainstream yeah right I don't know it's a roller
28:32
coaster game where you try and keep your people alive cuz you got
28:37
boosters on the roller coaster so you can't take Corners too fast it was just
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a fun quick game and I'm looking forward to that coming out next year there's a
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lot of the games there that I didn't realize at even at the Xbox area that
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weren't released yet right okay and just a lot of indie games which I think I
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don't know I think Xbox is being a Microsoft being a lot nicer to any
28:59
developers now yeah that does seem to be a theme yeah because I know a lot of
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games with gold they're all a lot of them are just indie games that they're
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releasing so yeah Microsoft has copped a lot of flak in the past about their
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um I guess just the way they handle indie games and things like that and
29:19
like you know like f fish complained a lot about them um with fairs and uh the
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I I can't remember if the super Meat Boy guys complained about them but it just
29:30
it was kind of a bit obvious in indie game the movie that they had some issues with
29:35
them so um I think a lot of it also came down to like game Indie Games weren't
29:41
getting fixed because they' need to pay Microsoft to release a patch that's
29:44
right yeah it was very expensive like like $110,000 or something a patch
29:48
something silly like that so um yeah hopefully they resolv a few of those
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things yeah
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so did you see any of the maining games well there was one that I wanted
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to see and I'm a bit annoyed that I didn't simply due to my own
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stupidity um I know the one you're talking about and I'm happy I didn't say
31:17
it yeah I can see that argument as well um with we're talking about Dragon Age 3
31:24
Inquisition um there was a big banner for it in the in the entryway and I was
31:31
like oh cool um maybe it'll be here and I didn't see it anywhere on the show
31:34
floor and I was like oh okay I guess it's like ebx for they didn't have it
31:37
because it comes out too soon didn't even really think about it that much for
31:41
the rest of the the time until on the last day a couple of hours before the
31:46
end of packs we bumped into some friends and I said I was a bit disappointed that
31:50
Dragon Age wasn't here and they said ah actually it's uh it's upstairs over
31:54
there and I was like what so we went over
31:59
upstairs uh to this area that I just for some reason hadn't gone to and uh yeah
32:05
and apparently it was there um but they' already shut the line down because there
32:09
were too many people so I didn't get to see
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it yeah um I'm happy I don't see games like that that I know that I'm really
32:19
want to experience the story myself so I try to stay away from them right cuz I
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un I sort of knew it was there and forgot to mention it to you so sorry
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about that well we'll discuss this later
32:34
yeah this failure of yours MH um I
32:39
managed to play a bit of Halo oh did you the Halo 2
32:44
yeah well it's the the Master Chief Collection cuz it's all four of the Halo
32:48
games oh playing multiplayer on a Halo 2 map and I didn't even know that I'm so good at
32:55
it was a multiplayer game freefor all and I came
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first going back and playing an old Halo game is very hard sometimes because I'm
33:06
so used to be able to run you can't run in them like no you in
33:11
the original Halo games Halo 1 and two you weren't able to run right
33:16
interesting and so there are all these times where I'm going to yep I'm just
33:20
going to run over here and no this is my this is the speed I go can you run in
33:24
the more recent ones yes right okay there's a function the Sprint function I
33:29
think came in with Halo Reach and then it's got into all the other games or
33:34
Halo 4 but yeah one and two definitely cannot run interesting don't even remember that I
33:41
didn't I play through both of them I just don't remember that oh and three I
33:46
played through three as well yeah so that was interesting so I'm looking that comes
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out next week right think on Monday you're going to buy it you it's worth it
33:58
you oh yeah I was definitely going to bite no matter what okay just so I can
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play through play through the story again oh yeah I mean not going to
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surprise anybody I'm going to skip that one just because I'm not really
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into Halo at all um I also played some
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Sunset Overdrive oh did you I don't know about that game yeah it
34:22
doesn't interest me it was very busy maybe I'm missing
34:27
something but it just doesn't seem like it's for me that
34:31
game I don't quite understand what it is but
34:36
uh it seems It's like a third person shooter right
34:41
yeah but it's a very there's a lot of it's looks like a cross between like a
34:46
grand theft order a Mirror's Edge yeah with all you jumping around grinding and
34:51
all this stuff but no I just I I played it and I don't know it just didn't
34:55
control that well for me yeah right I had a lot of trouble trying to jump
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and grind maybe it's just you need a bit of practice with it and a bit more time
35:04
than the minute I got to play with it but I don't know I think I might give it
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a skip no that's a lie I'll probably pick it up today but
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today Jesus you're the king of the flipflop yeah I don't mean I don't mean
35:20
thongs I mean no I can't wear them no why not no uh it's really hard to walk
35:26
with a limp with thongs ah right all right maybe there's a
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Kickstarter there for some um thongs they're just called
35:38
sandles you're a genius we're going to we're going to Kickstart this is going
35:41
to be our next Kickstart sandals I like the name probably no one's thought of this before
35:48
I know it's crazy um Ubisoft was there uh they had
35:53
Just Dance the crew was the Assassins
35:56
Creeds of various types and uh Far Cry 4
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uh I didn't bother checking any of that stuff out it was e Expo and Just Dance
36:07
it's a dance game and I can't dance so um the crew um I skipped playing it
36:12
there because I'm actually in the close beta for it oh okay so I'll be playing
36:17
it very shortly so I thought instead of playing One race for a couple of minutes
36:22
I can sit at home and play it myself right Assassin's Creed they're all the
36:27
same yeah I've played that before um I will get the new Assassin's Creed
36:32
because I do enjoy it but I don't see the point of lining up for half an hour
36:37
to play something that's the same as I've played before yeah but as I said I
36:42
do enjoy the Assassin's Creed series and I will be picking it up okay yeah I I I
36:47
bought four I haven't even played it like I literally at all haven't played
36:49
it it's I've got it for the Xbox One um in fact I just remembered that I have
36:55
it so well I own on the 360 and the Xbox
36:59
One Jesus Christ Luke is that so you can get double
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achievements yes me all right uh and Far Cry 4 as well I didn't bother
37:11
playing I enjoyed Far Cry 3 I shum it's the same game just with better graphics
37:15
and a bit bit of extra stuff so I think it's going to be a little bit more over
37:18
the top yeah I don't think I'm going to play it I don't I have very limited time
37:24
to play games and I think I'm going to skip that one so I didn't bother checking it it out
37:29
um so I me which I guess is is a kind of a weird decision to make when I don't
37:34
know whether I even want to play it or not but I just I saw it being played at
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e Expo uh and it looked very similar to
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to three so um I actually really enjoyed three but I never finished it
37:48
so no I i' enjoyed three I'm looking for to four yeah um so did you get your
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cheat on for LOL uh I don't
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understand I just don't that that area League of Legends that area of packs
38:06
always just get so crowded and intense and people are cheering and yelling and
38:10
I'm like I don't know man it's like I guess it's the sport it's it's the it's the
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major game video gaming sport now is it League of Legends like it seems to be I
38:23
guess it is I I I don't know I'm not really into the whole
38:28
they have their own pavilion at EB Expo like a whole separate room for League of
38:34
Legends now and and like I said that area of packs actually I said before
38:38
that it wasn't crowded that is the one spot that was crowded but I and that's a
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huge space on that showroom floor it's not like it's tucked away in a corner it
38:48
is huge yeah and they were like they're constantly like they're playing people's
38:52
theme songs and and like they've got these as far as I can tell it's like
38:57
it's like the WWE of of video games it's like it's like this
39:04
intense sporting event cuz you the they've got the commentators and they'll
39:10
do interviews with the players and I'm just I played the game once and I went I
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don't get it yeah I've I've tried to play it once and it just like I said
39:20
didn't interest me so I don't know I feel like I'm missing out maybe like
39:25
this is the this is where our uh kind of hobby is going to
39:30
become you know like a big thing and I'm missing out on it because I just don't
39:35
understand the one game so I I never really understood Starcraft either like
39:38
that was the one that was kind of the big ort that I was aware of still to
39:43
play a Starcraft game yeah so I don't like RTS games so I don't know but
39:48
anyway yeah League like playing them I don't like playing the
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multiplayer right the single player is fun but then there are times when I'll
39:55
go in and play multiplayer and then just I get demolished in minutes and I
40:00
they've built this huge base and all this stuff and I've built one little
40:03
thing to go collect money I always I always say I'm terrible at them but I
40:08
think the problem the reason I'm terrible at them is because I never play
40:10
them so I think if I I'm sure if I played it more than once every two years
40:16
I'd be a little better at them but yeah so no I I didn't uh I didn't
40:22
get too into the uh the LOL Beaver packs
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but yeah people certainly were um I don't know if there people who I wonder
40:32
if there people actually follow it outside or if they're just there because
40:35
it's all the bright lights and the cheering and the Yeah well yeah maybe it's a bit of
40:40
that crowd mentality people are getting into it but but whatever I mean if it if
40:44
it gets it successful it's fine I got no issues with it I just doesn't no you
40:48
know they can have their massive percentage of the show floor at
40:55
the conventions I think it's I think it's great I think you know they're more the
41:00
marrier uh Nintendo booth that we checked out because we actually got a
41:06
Wii U from Ubisoft evb Expo so that uh that was very exciting and we
41:13
actually they shipped it uh and delivered it while we were away so we
41:17
knew that it was going to be here when we got back so we're checking out all
41:20
the Nintendo games um there wasn't a whole lot there that
41:26
that interested us every was playing everyone was playing Super Smash
41:29
Brothers Super Smash Brothers is another one that I just don't
41:32
get no I've played it quite AIT I played
41:36
it quite a lot um drunk at Mana bar at
41:40
various times um yep and that was fun but I don't I don't know that I would
41:46
ever play it I don't know if I'd ever want to own it no exactly I think it's a kind of
41:52
thing that yeah I'm sure I'll I'll play that with you you know at an event or
41:56
whatever like off of fun but I'm not going to buy it um like and there's so
42:01
many other great games on the the Wii U uh
42:04
surprisingly um so many when I know we've kind of bagged the console out in
42:10
the past but um I'll continue to bag these console out we'll talk about the
42:15
Wii U more next week I think when the other guys are here because I'm sure
42:17
Dave is going to have some stuff to say but um one game that I played that was
42:22
really cool was stealth Inc 2 um played through the demo for that uh
42:28
it's kind of a platformer strategy game where you play as a little clone and you
42:32
have to try and survive a maze and it's got um you know like uh you can see when
42:39
something when you when you enter a room you can tell if something bad is going
42:42
to happen generally because there blood everywhere and so where the where the
42:45
blood uh is mostly present you can assume that when you step there
42:50
something bad will happen and this is a Nintendo game yeah yeah it's pretty
42:55
interesting I don't understand them I don't think they made the game but it's
42:59
it's it's on the Wii U uh and the other game that actually looks really cool is
43:04
um Captain Toad's Adventures which is a it sounds
43:09
disgusting it's a mini game in um Super Mario 3D World uh and basically he play
43:16
as Captain Toad uh and he has Adventures where you got to kind of collect
43:23
treasure and it's kind of the game play reminds me a little bit of Fez like you
43:27
have to rotate the map with the bumpers and kind of make your way through this
43:32
3D World um dodging enemies and solving puzzles and collecting treasure and
43:38
stuff uh it it looks really fun so uh like I don't know I enjoyed
43:44
the the few levels that I played of it so I'll probably y probably get that
43:49
one looks pretty fun so I think that's all the mainstream
43:54
games that I that I checked out yeah I think that was everything for me as well
44:00
um uh what else did we do I tried to go in a couple of tournaments yes tabletop
44:05
oh no you went console tournaments too yep uh did not go well they were Xbox
44:10
One tournaments so I was trying to go into a Forza 5 and a Titanfall
44:13
tournament right but to play these you actually need to be online right why was
44:18
that a problem cuz uh and they didn't have a really good internet connection
44:24
oh ah that's an oversight so oh enough that cuz Xbox Live always has to be
44:30
connected yeah it was enough that that it could handle that it was okay for
44:35
that it could connect it could read profiles and all that it could display
44:39
ads but to play online there was just not enough connection at the convention
44:43
center wow that was two tournaments that I went to go only two computer game
44:47
tournaments yeah oh well so they so
44:52
they the Xbox one doesn't really have any like local
44:57
local play no everything has to go through Xbox Live it's not like but I
45:03
think that's the same with all consoles days isn't it uh it might be that's
45:07
that's interesting though I didn't I didn't realize that cuz yeah when was
45:11
the last time you even thought about just going playing a console over a land
45:15
just for multiplayer well I mean to be honest I we probably would if we had
45:21
more than one Xbox one we've only got the one in the house but if we had two
45:24
then I would definitely consider that oh yeah uh one other thing that I wanted to talk
45:31
about that we that we checked out was the um it's called the Australian stem video game
45:37
challenge what's that it is it's games made by high school students
45:43
um and they I guess compete to to have
45:46
the game um shown at packs and uh it's it's actually really cool we uh we we
45:53
checked out a few of the games that they had there one of them was actually by an
45:55
autistic kid um and it was um made in
45:59
unity and you can con it's kind of like a building game where it's basically
46:05
Lego where you can construct um worlds uh he actually had his Demo World
46:11
apparently is uh is a recreation of his hospital that he that he usually spends
46:17
time at um except the guy admitted that um the reason we couldn't see that was
46:22
that they accidentally deleted it um before we got there at some point so oh
46:27
unfortunately we didn't get to see the demo world but we got to see um the game
46:31
itself which was pretty impressive we did get to play a game
46:35
called uh you know what I don't know what the name of it is
46:38
and no we I did try to find out but they um they do a very good job of
46:43
advertising the challenge itself like if you go online and look up Australian
46:46
stem video game challenge you can see uh a lot of information about it what they
46:50
haven't done a very good job of is is letting you know what the name of the
46:53
freaking games are like I can't find that information anywhere
46:57
um it was something to do with portals and we met the kid the kid was there the
47:01
guy who made it um and I got to say it's a really cool game it was really
47:05
impressive like it had a lot of puzzles to do with portals and switches and
47:12
um there were like a section where if you walk through a barrier the the world
47:18
the colors invert and the map changes slightly so you have to solve a lot of
47:21
puzzles like that it was really impressive um so I don't know it just
47:26
seems really cool and I wish we had stuff like this when I was in school
47:29
because um I don't know I reckon I'd be making video games now if if we
47:34
did I'm just thinking it might be the reason why they Wen you're having
47:37
trouble finding games cuz if it is a challenge and it's still going
47:41
on then oh that could be I suppose but they just sort of picked to select a few
47:47
just to take just to show it off but they don't want to announce winners or
47:50
anything yet maybe I'm just guessing well it was called something like portal
47:54
switches and levers or something like that and it was it's it's made in um
47:57
game maker but yeah but like I said it was pretty impressive and it had a
48:00
little story to go with it to a very love craf and style story and um I think
48:04
they were a bit surprised that I played it for as long as I did the guy kep com
48:07
like kept com back Oh you's still going I'm like yeah I want to finish it no it
48:11
was really good and some of the puzzles were really really cool like it's better
48:14
than some I've got to say some other games that I played at packs that
48:20
weren't made by high school students so so yeah thumbs up on that one and yeah
48:26
thumbs up on the project too it seems like a really cool thing that they're
48:31
doing oh here is one thing we should have mentioned being packs they've
48:35
released the Australian version of cars Against Humanity oh yeah they did they
48:40
did and we got that we got that and we got really good price for it yeah
48:45
compared to having to buy it overseas um yeah they had a big booth at
48:50
uh at the show and with and had American marching band and some other cool stuff was y
48:57
yeah I mean it seems like it's the same game but uh you know slightly different
49:02
but that's fine it's a good game it's I'm happy it's now available to purchase
49:06
in Australia not just a printable version yeah yeah we deserve it and now
49:12
means that between us we own four copies of the game yeah that's true cuz I
49:16
believe you have the US and the Australian version and I have the UK and
49:19
the Australian version right okay where'd you get the UK one I just picked
49:24
up the shopping camra oh like they got ported yeah cool yeah I'm interested to
49:30
try and get the Australian one out to see what they think is
49:34
Australian yeah yeah we had a quick look at it it's basically the same um with
49:40
some more Australian in jokes yeah that'll be 90% of the game will still be
49:45
exactly the same cuz they're just words but at least we'll be able to get the ones some of
49:51
the American ones which you read and you sort of I don't know who that is yeah
49:55
did you play any top games yeah I did I didn't um I didn't do a huge amount just
50:01
because uh there was so many other things going on um I we played a bit of
50:07
that fish Flo and frelin game which I
50:11
think is a Dutch game um that was actually pretty
50:15
fun uh but we had to leave to go play in what I thought was a munchkin tournament
50:20
which just turned out to be teach other people to play munchkin
50:25
which was which was also fun it was still fun it was just I thought it was a
50:28
tournament but um they weren't very clear cuz there were events and then
50:32
there were tournaments yeah yeah look it was fine I wasn't that upset about it it
50:37
was just a bit confusing I think at one stage me and Hannah played uh Kings of
50:43
Tokyo oh yeah uh that was a really fun game so we went to go and try and buy it
50:48
couldn't find Tokyo but we found King of New York so we picked that one up okay
50:52
cool cuz evidently that's the successor to it so takes learned from the first
50:57
one and sort of makes improvements and adds a few more mechanics to it cool one
51:02
game I did play on the Friday night was Thorn watch I'm a bit I'm bit jealous about
51:08
that that was uh quite an interesting game and I think it'll be a game that
51:13
you will enjoy mhm um yeah it went for about 2 and 1 half
51:19
hours I think we're playing it for and our party the on our team playing it
51:25
were probably the worst group of people that have ever played it we set a new
51:30
record that's pretty cool there's um you get wounds in the game so if you take a
51:35
hit you get wounds and if you get so many wounds you die right um and it's a
51:40
bit of a deck building game so you put the wounds into your deck you draw from
51:44
your deck if you get Five Wounds in your hand you're dead right okay we had to
51:49
borrow another table's deck of wounds to put into our decks cuz we were getting hit so
51:55
much that's impressive y I think the old record used to be 32 one person got 32
52:02
wounds yeah I got 32 wounds another py in the party got 37 wow and I think all
52:09
up we had 110 117 or something something
52:13
ridiculous so you guys suck we suck yeah well this guy this game is
52:20
made by um Mike From Penny Arcade yeah so i' got to meet him y have bit of a
52:26
chat to him about what we thought about it mhm and yeah was I'm looking forward
52:31
to a few things it just seemed that it was really hard to lose the game right
52:37
okay so we're hoping that once it goes down a bit further maybe it'll be few
52:43
changes but yeah I think it's a really fun game and it's a good introduction
52:48
for people who maybe want to give Dungeons and Dragons a try but don't
52:53
want to get too involved it's very very simple mechanics right okay and I think
52:58
you would make a good GM oh yeah for the game I think you would enjoy that where
53:03
you get to be the monsters oh yeah I probably would enjoy that yeah I think
53:06
that's you well when they release it I'm not sure when it's actually getting
53:10
released um they just play testing it at this point yeah but uh I'm definitely
53:15
going to check it out cuz like I said I'm a big fan of those guys and uh it
53:18
looks really cool anyway so yeah and the last thing I wanted to
53:23
mention I guess uh myself is I was a bit disappointed at the lack of
53:28
Cosplay especially considering Friday was Halloween um Jenner and I dressed up
53:34
uh on the Friday because like for that reason it was Halloween and we wanted to
53:39
um kind of participate and when we got there didn't seem like didn't seem like
53:44
anyone else was uh was in on it so found that a bit disappointing there were over
53:50
the weekend more I believe like on the Saturday and Sunday I thought there were
53:55
more people there wasn't a lot no and it was all
54:00
kind of League of Legends or uh from what I've from what I've heard a lot of
54:05
the stuff that I don't know what it is is probably from Attack on Titan or some
54:09
I don't know it's all from anime shows that I don't watch I think so I don't
54:14
know I just thought there'd be more Halloween stuff yeah especially
54:18
considering you know they these guys brought brought the convention here from
54:22
America they put it on Halloween and then they said that's because they
54:26
wanted to bring Halloween to Australia and then there just wasn't really
54:29
anything Halloween themed no and like you said was nothing you ended up
54:33
playing Thorn watch that evening with with the with Mike and uh and I know
54:38
Jamie from pade was there as well and you know they didn't they didn't seem to
54:42
do anything Halloween related so no sh I'm not sure if it'll still be the same
54:45
weekend next year uh I'm kind of hoping it's not just with Melbourne cup yeah I'm kind of
54:52
hoping it's not to be honest cuz I really think that probably increased
54:56
price of accommodation and things like that just at being and airfare actually
55:01
that's a really good point that's a really good point yeah yeah but no I
55:06
will definitely be buying tickets for next year the second there
55:08
announced cool and yeah again um I think the new venue is great I think uh it
55:14
really feels like uh one of the US ones now like
55:19
um I've like the first one I went to really enjoyed and then we went to
55:23
Boston I liked it even more I thought that was that was the best um of the lot
55:27
I thought the pack size last year was great but it wasn't the same you know
55:32
what I mean it didn't feel the same as a as one of the others um but this year
55:36
really did it just so I think they've uh they've managed to to replicate it here
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in Australia now uh and not only that I think the location where it's at now has
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a lot of stuff that um I don't know whether just Melbourne gets more of this
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stuff but there's like a tji Fridays and there's um oh H&M there's H&M down there
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just a lot of stuff that that um we don't have in Sydney and it just made it
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feel more like I was kind of visiting overseas or something it yeah it was
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pretty cool y it was a it was a trip away it was different yeah exactly
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didn't feel like I was just going to supern or something so anyway yeah big
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thumbs up for me for for pack this year I thought it was excellent I
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really enjoyed myself and uh looking forward to the next one yep and I think
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