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NFL Week 5 MNF Showdown | Chiefs @ Jaguars | DraftKings DFS Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all systems gone clear? The left up?
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  Speaker 2: What's up? Everyone? Tyler Tambaline here aka to Tag and
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  Speaker 2: Tambo back for another edition of the Monday Night Football
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  Speaker 2: Showdown Show Here on the Ship A nation YouTube station
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  Speaker 2: got hoop got titled We're gonna round out Week five?
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  Speaker 2: We got the Kansas City Chiefs at the Jacksonville Jaguars hoop,
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  Speaker 2: How is your Week five so far? And then what
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  Speaker 2: do you think about tonight's game? We got Chiefs of the.
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  Speaker 1: Jags relatively good. I was pretty live on fan duel
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  Speaker 1: and the Big Three. K had a Jets Cowboys' team.
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  Speaker 1: Ed happened to have Rico and Jonathan Taylor on it,
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  Speaker 1: so it went pretty well over there. It's kind of weird,
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  Speaker 1: like when you build teams and like your last piece
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  Speaker 1: in like you don't love and you know it's going
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  Speaker 1: to be the downfall of your team, like for something
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  Speaker 1: like the last I got everything I wanted. Ferguson we
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  Speaker 1: had talked about on the show, and I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: You look at the ownership stuff, you can you can
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  Speaker 1: tell me if we were right or wrong on it.
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  Speaker 1: But I thought Warren being right there would keep Ferguson
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  Speaker 1: in check, so I played Ferguson that obviously worked out well.
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  Speaker 1: But the last piece was Hampton didn't feel great about it,
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  Speaker 1: didn't do shit and got hurt. So that kind of
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  Speaker 1: helped me back from getting all the way up there.
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  Speaker 1: But it was a good day there close on DK.
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  Speaker 1: I mean we were on the right piece as the
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  Speaker 1: Dak stuff. I mean, anything in that game kind of
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  Speaker 1: worked out well. Mason Taylor, who we talked about what
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  Speaker 1: was his final stat line by the way, because I
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  Speaker 1: said one hundred yards and it seems like he was
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  Speaker 1: getting a ton of.
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  Speaker 2: Like seventeen points, so I think he got sixtssing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we take that. We'll take that for sure. We
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  Speaker 1: lived that for sixty seven. Yeah, beautiful play there for sure,
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  Speaker 1: didn't fully break it, but we you know, that was
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  Speaker 1: the random tight end play the day, got the job done.
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  Speaker 1: So overall it was solid and then big time depression
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  Speaker 1: for some when the Cardinals decided to piss that game
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  Speaker 1: away and ruin a lot of momentum in the in
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  Speaker 1: the survivor streets.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was hurtful for a lot of people. What
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  Speaker 2: away for a game to turn around? We had the
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  Speaker 2: the adone Mitchell de Mercado type of set up where
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  Speaker 2: he just drops it on the way in or the
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  Speaker 2: touch back that way, and then the whole momentum flips.
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  Speaker 2: The craziest play back and forth for Tennessee to get
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  Speaker 2: a touchdown out of that the other the other way
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  Speaker 2: and then just come back and get the job done
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  Speaker 2: and the whole momentum flip. But it's crazy. Title. That's
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  Speaker 2: the survivor streets we've been living in. That was definitely
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  Speaker 2: hurtful to a lot of those on Arizona. How did
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  Speaker 2: your day go otherwise? And what do you think of that?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean just a crazy game.
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  Speaker 4: Also, not only that, I mean the Cardinals like just
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  Speaker 4: took their foot off the gas one and a half
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  Speaker 4: quarters in. I mean, and you just move the ball
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  Speaker 4: at will the first couple of possessions and these guys
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  Speaker 4: just get lax and the next thing you know, a
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  Speaker 4: couple insane plays.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, runs so bad there. I got lucky.
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  Speaker 4: I used the card I thought Cardinals were clearly the
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  Speaker 4: best survivor play. I used them week one though, so
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  Speaker 4: still live over here. Just absolute chaos though rams Cardinals
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  Speaker 4: bills they weren't very high owned in that.
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  Speaker 3: But man, the NFL is a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 4: These offenses are starting to pick it up and really
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  Speaker 4: just show some of these defenses aren't even close down
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  Speaker 4: the same level as these offenses. And with the kickoff
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  Speaker 4: stuff and all that, when they get the ball at
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  Speaker 4: the thirty five, I mean points are and then I
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  Speaker 4: say that. Then we watched the Sunday Night game yesterday
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  Speaker 4: with the best offense probably and the Bills, and they struggle.
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  Speaker 4: So it was cool to see Digs. I'm jumping all
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  Speaker 4: over the place, but also cool to see Digs. He
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  Speaker 4: said it was personal. I mean he definitely showed it
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  Speaker 4: was personal.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. The best was the James Cook
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  Speaker 2: stuff last night. Like Vegas made the call forty nine
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  Speaker 2: and a half yards, there was people like clipping the
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  Speaker 2: final video the prop betters out there because it looked
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  Speaker 2: like he got more than a yard but they needed
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  Speaker 2: to hold him for the forty nine and a half
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  Speaker 2: so it couldn't hit their bets. And he's had a
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  Speaker 2: touchdown every game, so how did he not get a touchdown?
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  Speaker 2: But he still played like eighty percent of the snaps.
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  Speaker 2: I hope people were freaking out. It was like the
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  Speaker 2: least amount we've seen Ray Davis and Ty Johnson. They
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  Speaker 2: got four total carries the whole game, like, they just
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  Speaker 2: didn't use them when we would want them to use them.
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  Speaker 2: But that's that's DFS that showdown for you. It's gonna
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  Speaker 2: be another good game tonight. Interesting thing on tonight, just
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  Speaker 2: the Worthy stuff upfront, said he had so he was
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  Speaker 2: on the injury report, came off of it was good
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  Speaker 2: to go on the weekend, came off the plane, had
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of swelling, so they put him back
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  Speaker 2: on the injury report yesterday, but as of this morning
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  Speaker 2: said he's gonna be good to go and he's gonna play,
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  Speaker 2: So he's still q TAG. Well, we won't get the
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  Speaker 2: final news till we get it. Anything could happen in
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  Speaker 2: warm ups, but for the sake of the show and
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  Speaker 2: for going through with everybody, definitely have to assume he
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  Speaker 2: plays based on the news that came out this morning.
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  Speaker 2: So that's a situation with Worthy. We know Trevor Lawrence
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  Speaker 2: and Brian Thomas Junior suck and there's no way they
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  Speaker 2: could ever come back and have a good game tonight.
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  Speaker 2: So we got that part figured out. But whop, what's
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  Speaker 2: your grand scheme over you here? It's a chief Slate
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  Speaker 2: and obviously never Mahomes for me goes out the window
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  Speaker 2: when we get to a single game. But thoughts on
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  Speaker 2: this one. Chief's favored by three and a half right now.
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  Speaker 2: On the road looks like.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of a tough one, I would say for showdown
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  Speaker 1: in terms of identifying the captains that you want to play,
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  Speaker 1: just a lot of ho hum, middle of the road,
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  Speaker 1: low lower sort of sort of options. And you know
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  Speaker 1: a lot of times you can go to the pass
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  Speaker 1: catchers and look there the Jaguars. It's been all over
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  Speaker 1: the place. The Chiefs obviously worthy. Now there's some injury stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's fine. I think he's good to go.
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  Speaker 1: I think all indications are that as well. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe it's maybe it's him that you look to. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I think anything could really happen tonight, So
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna kind of play it that way when when
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  Speaker 1: building my teams, like I like going as condensed as
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  Speaker 1: possible at the captain spot, Like I like running three,
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  Speaker 1: four or five if I can tonight, I just don't
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  Speaker 1: know if I can get there. I do think that'll
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  Speaker 1: push a lot of ownership to Patrick Mahomes up top,
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  Speaker 1: because he's probably the most stable piece on the board.
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  Speaker 1: Been running a little bit, which we kind of noted
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  Speaker 1: early on in the season. I mean six attempts seven, five, four.
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  Speaker 1: We weren't seeing any of that last year from him.
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  Speaker 1: It just increases the floor and ceiling a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: He's been over twenty three Fantasy points in three out
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  Speaker 1: of four games. So I do think a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people just go to Mahomes. We'll start looking at these
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  Speaker 1: other options and say, man, I don't want to play
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  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence etm Ryan Thomas Junior sucks Kelsey's dust. You know,
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  Speaker 1: who knows what you're geting with Hollywood Brown. And then
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  Speaker 1: they'll say, all right, I'll just play Mahomes. I do
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  Speaker 1: think Mahomes gets quite a bit up top for that reason.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, maybe it isn't like who knows, but
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  Speaker 1: you know, again, I like to try to keep it condensed.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't see how I can do that today.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna probably play a lot of guys up top.
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, I'll definitely be way underweight Mahome's up top. I'll
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  Speaker 2: tell you guys that right now, especially because it looks
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  Speaker 2: like it's gonna get steamed even further and he does.
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  Speaker 1: Spread it and we're shocked. What's shocked?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, of course, right.
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  Speaker 1: To stay on brand for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's kind of like that's what I was trying
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  Speaker 2: to get people on because on main slates, the reason
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  Speaker 2: I don't like him on main slates is the reason
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  Speaker 2: he is typically better in the captain spot on Showdown
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  Speaker 2: because he does spread it around. Now he's running it
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  Speaker 2: more all that. It's just there is so many other
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  Speaker 2: options here, Like when we get to these position by
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  Speaker 2: position options, you're gonna hear multiple running backs come up,
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  Speaker 2: and price differentials, you're gonna hear multiple receivers. The fact
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  Speaker 2: that we're these good to go. I know some people
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  Speaker 2: immediately just say, well, hey, if he was added to
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  Speaker 2: a late injury report, you can't play him. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: go to this guy instead, or this guy instead. It
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  Speaker 2: just gets so spread out. But title, the biggest thing
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  Speaker 2: to remember tonight is the birthday boy on the other side,
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  Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence up top, and yesterday was Travis Kelsey's birthday.
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  Speaker 2: So we got a couple narrative street spots here. What's
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  Speaker 2: your grand scheme over you? My friend?
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  Speaker 4: Narratives aside, Yeah, it's usually when you say like a
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  Speaker 4: five and a half point favorites or a decent point
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  Speaker 4: or decent favorites like we are three and a half
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  Speaker 4: now with the Chiefs. Excuse me, but if favorites with
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  Speaker 4: the Chiefs, with Mahomes clearly being like ninety percent own
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  Speaker 4: like Josh Allen was yesterday, you would think it'd be
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  Speaker 4: heavily favorite. Four to two Chiefs bills at least, and
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  Speaker 4: that's just not the case. It's three to three and
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  Speaker 4: then even four to Jacksonville will be pretty highly owned.
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  Speaker 4: And a lot of that is the running back room
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  Speaker 4: is really hard to click on. For the Chiefs, they've
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  Speaker 4: all been bad and with Worthy back he's the clear
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  Speaker 4: other guy, but the ones after, like Thornton, he's not
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  Speaker 4: gonna be in as much juju. I think he's a
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  Speaker 4: solid play. Kelsey's just looked really bad and people other
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  Speaker 4: click o the Jaggs guys. When you get to that
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  Speaker 4: price range, I think Kareem Hunk will be the one
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  Speaker 4: value guy people will click on. Pacheco looks too highly owned,
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  Speaker 4: but it's a lot easier when you go down below
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  Speaker 4: the value guys on Jacksonville, the Danmie Browns, the toutons
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  Speaker 4: the Parker Washon's. I think they're a lot easier clicks
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  Speaker 4: project better than even like Noah Gray or for chard
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  Speaker 4: Smith or stuff like that. So I do think any
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  Speaker 4: five to one build on either side will be different,
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  Speaker 4: and you could see a path possibly four twos, though
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  Speaker 4: I like I'm going to be leaning into that. I
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  Speaker 4: think three three is the worst build on this lake
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  Speaker 4: because I think that's what most people will go to.
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  Speaker 4: That was the first thing that set out to me.
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  Speaker 4: But I agree with Hoop and Mahomes. I think he
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  Speaker 4: gets steam at Captain and he could be like ninety
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  Speaker 4: two percent total on this lake because he feels underpriced
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  Speaker 4: relative to everyone else in his projection.
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  Speaker 2: And one more interesting note that you said that because
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  Speaker 2: the build type is important, I think not a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people look at that and like that's another way
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  Speaker 2: to get leverage on a slate. Is like, if it's
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  Speaker 2: going to be heavy four twos with a certain build
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  Speaker 2: type or on a certain side, then you can get
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  Speaker 2: leverage or go underweight on those build types. But the
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  Speaker 2: thing about the Mahomes Captain is I think Hoop is right.
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: Jordan says here the Sims are pumping lots of that
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  Speaker 2: when the sims are pumping. That's I've talked about it recently.
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  Speaker 2: Have like a dry run and then if you have
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  Speaker 2: ultimate or something with contest sims, you can see what
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  Speaker 2: that is pushing, because that's where people think, oh, I
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  Speaker 2: better go with what this says. But it's taking a
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  Speaker 2: combination of all the inputs and then pushing that and
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  Speaker 2: then more people think it's correct. But I will say
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  Speaker 2: it's tougher for people. I think people struggle with figuring
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  Speaker 2: out the chief side of things, but they just feel
• 10:16
  Speaker 2: so good about Lawrence, Bryan Thomas Junior, Etan Junior and Strange,
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  Speaker 2: and then you can insert other guys and the same
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  Speaker 2: with those at least those fours where you can get
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  Speaker 2: those threes coming from and even the four two's on
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  Speaker 2: that side, it just builds nicely. It feels right, So
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  Speaker 2: I certainly think there's something to be said for that.
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  Speaker 2: This is another one. If all the options geosis, if
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  Speaker 2: all the ownership is condensed with the captains up top,
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  Speaker 2: isn't it almost better to take a bunch of shots
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  Speaker 2: on the lot lower captains and fade the high owned ones.
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  Speaker 2: That way you can get over the field. What do
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  Speaker 2: you think title like that's if Mahomes is gonna get
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  Speaker 2: pumped up. We have seen a lot of solo shippers
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  Speaker 2: this year in Showdown, which is another one, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: shut up through our guy Rio last night. Just missed
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  Speaker 2: the very top, but still a nice forty k for
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  Speaker 2: second place. Just a small chop, but yeah, another solo
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  Speaker 2: shipper last night. What's your thoughts on just you know,
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  Speaker 2: with the condensed ownership with the captain we've seen.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's all up to your wrisk tolerance. Like
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  Speaker 4: when you do that, just know if Mahomes nukes today,
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  Speaker 4: you're gonna be getting very little back, maybe none back.
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  Speaker 4: But if you do that all year and that's the
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  Speaker 4: plan you stick with just blindly every slate, Like if
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  Speaker 4: you would have been overweight on Diggs yesterday, you would
• 11:20
  Speaker 4: have clearly been underweight, James Cook Allen. You give your shot,
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  Speaker 4: you give yourself more shots when you are right, But
• 11:27
  Speaker 4: just know that some slates it might be phoned down
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  Speaker 4: in the first quarter because Derek Henry already had his
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  Speaker 4: two touchdowns one hundred yards of this or that.
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  Speaker 3: So there's no right or wrong answer to that. Just
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  Speaker 3: know what you're getting yourself into.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're playing to win, you're playing the long
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  Speaker 2: term game. I think obviously you want to get as
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  Speaker 2: much out of it. When you're saying it's not off,
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: you're right, it's how much of women you are?
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: That's kind of the setup of the exact same thing
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  Speaker 2: we just talked about there. It's like, yeah, you could
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  Speaker 2: be also to Hoop's point, maybe I'll kick it to you, Hoop,
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  Speaker 2: and then we'll get into the other positions and we're
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  Speaker 2: going to quarterback. Anyway, if you really love Mahomes on
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  Speaker 2: this slate, there's a bunch of ways you could build
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  Speaker 2: differently with Mahome and just get massive leverage on him.
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: If you think he gets steamed to thirty, play seventy five,
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  Speaker 2: and then you know, pick him in a couple or
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  Speaker 2: play sixty and then a couple other guys at twenty
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  Speaker 2: percent each and you got three captains. But you're double
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  Speaker 2: the field on Mahomes and you can, and that gives
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  Speaker 2: you builds that are forty nine k capped or you
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  Speaker 2: know they're with the defense against him, and there's more
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  Speaker 2: things that can be in there built in to make
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  Speaker 2: it more controlld. But what's your thoughts?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you can certainly play still play Mahomes.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this is one of those slights you look
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  Speaker 1: at it. It could be like twenty fantasy points is
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  Speaker 1: the top score on the slate, and then if that
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  Speaker 1: is Mahomes, you're gonna you're gonna need them, And there's
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  Speaker 1: ways you can get way different by playing him, for sure,
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  Speaker 1: So again like if you like them, and a lot
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  Speaker 1: of reason too, like he's been more productive fantasy wise,
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  Speaker 1: you know, last year it seems like his ceiling was
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  Speaker 1: almost like eighteen fantasy points for a majority of the season,
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  Speaker 1: Like he's consistently into the mid twenties. And if he
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  Speaker 1: gets twenty five twenty six fantasy points probably enough on
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: the slate, so you can play them, go way over
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  Speaker 1: weight and say I don't want to even take the
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: chances with guys like Trevor Lawrence or ETN or Brian
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  Speaker 1: Thomas or Travis kelcey, and you just take a massive
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  Speaker 1: overweight approach and you just have way more combinations of
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  Speaker 1: the Mahome stuff, which I think is a totally fine option.
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  Speaker 1: And I can see the argument for the other way too,
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  Speaker 1: where you say, you know what, I'm just going to
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  Speaker 1: play a bunch of lower owned captains and hope it
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  Speaker 1: hits like. That's why I'm not one hundred percent sure
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  Speaker 1: what I'll be doing at this point. I see validity
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  Speaker 1: in both sides of it, to be honest with you,
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  Speaker 1: as it stands now, for me, it's probably spread it
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  Speaker 1: out a little bit and either be equal to the
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  Speaker 1: field on Mahomes or a little underweight. That's kind of
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  Speaker 1: where I'm leaning because I just think a variety of
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  Speaker 1: things could happen on the slate tonight.
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  Speaker 2: And one more interesting thing just for this slave. We're
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: not at wide receiver yet, but is the Travis Hunter
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  Speaker 2: stuff like it's really hard to decipher when it's going
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  Speaker 2: to be. You have to assume at some point they're
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: going to do something and use them that way. But
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: we just haven't seen it yet, and it's is not
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  Speaker 2: getting any discount for the lack of everything else that
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  Speaker 2: we've seen. It's sixty six hundred on DraftKings. It is
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  Speaker 2: cheaper on FanDuel, though I will say we'll get to
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  Speaker 2: that later. Forty eight hundred on FanDuel for Travis Hunter,
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  Speaker 2: and I can't imagine many people go there when you
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: have a Brenton Strange at forty six hundred on FanDuel
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  Speaker 2: versus on DraftKings, it's two thousand more to go up
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  Speaker 2: to Travis Hunter from Brenton Strange. So sometimes you can
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: use the sites against each other. From that perspective, I
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  Speaker 2: definitely think that's another interesting way to go about it.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Hoop, I'm gonna stay with you on these quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 2: Anything else you want to add on the mahome, We'll
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: start there. Mahomes, Trevor Lawrence, and then just captains in general.
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: You can go through your other stuff with captains.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, probably definitely prefer like Trevor Lawrence in
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  Speaker 1: The Black Spot, just we have not seen much ceiling
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  Speaker 1: performances out of him really, and I don't know, it
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: seems like it's almost been years since we've seen like
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence absolutely go off eleven twenty one, eight eleven
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: fantasy points. This could be like a floor sort of
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: fantasy point game where it's like we don't need these
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: big ceiling performances and getting thirteen or fourteen from a
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: quarterback could be could be good enough. So, I mean,
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: he's fine, but man, like the it's been pretty uninspiring
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: from a fantasy perspective so I don't think I want
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: I actually probably don't play him in the Captain at all.
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: I think I'm fine just fading him. It's looking like,
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: let's see what sort of ownership like ten percent, thirteen percent,
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: Like I don't have much interest in Trevor Lawrence up top,
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: but Mahomes a little bit, and then in the Flex
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: I think totally fine. Like I think Mahomes, if you're
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: not playing him in the Captain, I think you want
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: as much as you can possibly get in the Flex.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: Just seems very likely, like very very likely that he
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: is on the optimal in some way, shape or form,
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: whether it's Captain or or Flex, especially with the fact
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: that now he is running it a little bit more so,
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: as much as I can get to him, haven't you
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: know fully determined what I'll do. I'm fine with any
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: path I end up with Mahomes and the Captain like
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: I already talked about, but in the Flex, I want
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: a lot Trevor Lawrence. Not so much of a captain
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: play for me, But you know, fine, what I get
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: whatever I get in the in the flex spot with him,
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: but not thrilled with Trevor Lawrence.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: Any other captain like what are the other captain considerations?
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: I kind of skipped over that, so I'm sorry, I'll
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: let you continue on captains. You already skipped your quarterback
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: by talking to those guys early, But what what other
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: captains are you considering?
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: Who next in line? For sure is worthy? I think
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: you know the big playoff side can bust it like
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: they need him in this offense. I mean they definitely
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: need need him and they need him involved in a
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: big way in this offense. So definitely him. Uh, third
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: is gonna be Brian Thomas. Man, it's been bad. It's
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: been very, very bad for Brian Thomas. There's no doubt
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: about it. Drops just weird situational things. But it's not
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: like he's not participate hating in this offense. Seven targets
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: twelve six seven if they are playing from behind, like
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: he probably gets peppered here. So I'm fine with him.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: I'm fine going like chief captains I think today as well,
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: like Diami Brown seems pretty under price. He could be
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: like wide receiver two and he is what two K like,
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: He's had some big boy performances. He had two K flat,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: He's had pretty big performances this year, just wanted to
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: pull it up. He's had a seventeen spot. He had
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: a nine in the first game, Like if he gets
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: twelve thirteen, like that could be you know, optimal captain score.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: So I'm fine, fine with him. I'm fine with the
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: wide range of captains today, depending you know, when I
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: go through and see, like when I build my teams,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna see what I get run the contest sims.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: But I'd be fine spreading it out and just trying
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: to kind of get unique at the captain spot. I
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: don't really myself playing too much running back up there,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: but I'm fine with like some of these pass catchers
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: for sure up top.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh Kat to you title on the captains just
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: a second, I will bring this up for me Yesterday.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: I thought this was pretty interesting because we did the
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: takedown breakdown this morning reviewing it tight ends, absolutely smashed yesterday.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Everywhere still nowhere to be found, still not needed. You
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: needed those three running backs, like we harped on that
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: on the show yesterday. When there is eight nine good
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: running backs on a slate, it really doesn't matter how
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: good The Titans with the pricing was just too soft
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: and so just so everybody knows, like paying attention to it.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: That's why we're looking at that stuff from all angles,
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: even with the way it happened. We looked up optimals,
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: we looked up winning lineups, we looked up everything. I
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: know it's a product of how people build. I get
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: that because there's more ownership on those spots. But I'm
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: just saying it just the way the lineups set up
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: and the way the pricing is saw. It's so important
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: to play the game of DFS and not just the
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: picks in the place, to look at it like from
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: the overview of the entire slate and how would it
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: make sense and build out And yeah, the running backs
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: just trumped its still and that's with tight ends absolutely crushing.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: So I thought that was a good call out from
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: us yesterday.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: We had that.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: We had a good show yesterday running through that stuff.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: That's a really interesting piece to pick up on on
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: a week to week basis. So title, I'll kick it
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: to you man, Captain's for you. What are your thoughts
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: up top? Yeah?
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: I like that call though, I mean Rico for two
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: hundred just nuts and like I'm I don't know you
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: guys went through but how like have we ever seen.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: A million maaker lineup that Chalky.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: It was pretty much one pivot and we talked about
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: Itbuka insteaded playing the Rashad White who did good, but
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: I'll like play at Buka opposite of JSI and I
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: mean everything was just like a cash build with one pivot.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: It was wild to see so many flames.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Did you see? I gotta cut off for two seconds.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: The funniest part his name, the username of the twenty
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: dollars million maker winner was pick the right scrub and
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: he literally didn't pick any scrub. It was all just
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: like the best chalk plays on the slate with a
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Buka as his worst at eight percent or something like that,
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: and just the way it works. But the way the
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: lineup was put together, Yeah, now do we play, it's
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: how you play. I mean, it was very sad. It's
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: just crazy when all the chalk hits like that. But
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: man it was. It still had a nice setup. It
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: had the Fields Hall no Wilson with Ferg. I like
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: that little block as a way you could get different
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: with it because most would have Wilson or would be
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: excluding Hall. And then he had just mini stacks. He
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: had jasenag Buca he had Dowdle with Wattle, no a Chan,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: he had Jonathan Taylor and then he had the defense
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: in there. So yeah, it was a really nice bill.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: It's just crazy when it goes nuts like that. But
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: congrats to him. You know, didn't even need a scrub
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: for that line up and got the right job done.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: So for sure, big Congratson million dollars. Pretty cool.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: Only only one of us on the show and now
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: was that feeling, and I can't imagine it be bad.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: But at captains, I like both quarterbacks. The reason I
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: like both quarterbacks we have no reception prop greater than
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: four and a half right now, like Mahomes has always
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: been able to spread it around. Noah Grays in there
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: not getting much ownership. I don't love Kelsey. The price
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: will keep his ownership in check though he's plus one
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: point fifty to get in the box.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: We'll get to Brishard Smith later.
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to play him at captain, but I
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: think he'll probably be out there more as the pass
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: catching back. But if he caught one, they're just enough guys.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: Thornton Hollywood juju where Mahomes and his rushing upside on
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: top of it, you can play him in a multitude
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: of ways. You go to the other side with Lawrence,
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: he has four real receivers running rights routes out there,
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: Hunter Brown obviously, Brian Thomas, Strange, Parker Washington. If three
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: of the different guys catch a touchdown today and no
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: one has like over seven catches, which I can see happening,
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: Lawrence gets the bonus. I mean that he'll probably walk
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: into the optimal mac Jones. That was a great call
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: by you last week. I think we can see the
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: same thing here today on that side. So I like
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: both quarterback captains. I'm always gonna be unworthy. Anytime someone's
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: that fast can break it in one play, I'm gonna
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: play a lot of them. And then, yeah, I agree
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: with Hoopon. I don't like the running back room much.
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: I'm fine with Etn. He's plus one fifteen to score
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: plus seven hundred captain ownerships in check. I don't love
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: it though. I don't love the running back room, but
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: chief captain's tight ends. I'm in on to day mainly too.
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: In Brenton Strange, he just seems severely underpriced, like Travis
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: Kelce seven to six, Strange four to six. I wouldn't
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: be shocked one bit if Strange out scores him great
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: route participation Lawrence likes on the in between the dumpoffs
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: can easily get in the box.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: I think Strange is super strong. And then Jutu for
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: two hunder more too.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: He led the team in snaps last week at the
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: receiver room when Worthy was coming back. He plays the
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: slot six catches sixty yards a touchdown. I think at
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: that price that can do a lot too. So those
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: are the main guys. I wish I could get to
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: Thornton captain since his play is upside so big, but
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: I am worried that he's the one that gets fizzled
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: out the most, so probably won't go there.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: I didn't look it up fully. I was too busy
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: looking up James cook snap shares from last night, so
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: all the whining and complaining, I was like, just to
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: dig into that a little bit, just for the fun
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: of it. But I thought I saw something about last
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: week title with with Worthy back. Obviously, the guy's just
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: super sneaky catching up million balls. He feels like you
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: don't even see him out there, and all of a
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: sudden he's got like eight for whatever, and it's huge,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: But I think I saw that a lot of people
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: thought Juju would get hurt with that, and it actually
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: ended up being Taekwon who got hit a little bit
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: on that stuff. Again, it's week to week, it's such
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: a small sample. I'm just noting we're not at wide
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: receiver yet anyway, just for up top, I think obviously
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: he has explosive playability. It's like the Shaheed stuff we
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: saw yesterday. We were week too early the week before,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: but yesterday goes out and just catches that one bomb.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Of course, Sorton could do that. They showed it just
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago. They were willing to go
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: back to him after the first one didn't hit the
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: next play like, oh, we'll do it again. This guy
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: is good. But yeah, if he's getting hit up a
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: little bit on that stuff, it's just again, it showedout
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: you can take the risk. But was that the case, Yeah, Yeah,
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: that was the case.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Thornton was the last, so Juju had the most naps.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: Then Worthy, then Hollywood, then Thornton, so three receiver sets.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: Hollywood Thornton kind of switched off, but there was more
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: Hollywood and then Yeah, Juju's role is really good.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my big thing this one. So I'll just go
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: quick and then I'll kick it back to you hoop
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: just for running back, because you'read did quarterback and title
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: kind of talk through it there, and I'm gonna hit
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: it one more time. As I said, I'll definitely underweight
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Mahomes and I'm gonna play Trevor Lawrence. I like the
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: opposite side. I actually like this side of the game.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: I think there could be still again. Even if Brian
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Thomas gets right, I'll have him in the captain too.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: So I as we'll say it now, but my point
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: would be it could just be a touchdown and some
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: catches and it still is Diamie Brown. It still is
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Travis Hunter, Brenton Strange. Guys like that Hunter long. He
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: could definitely be spreading it out here a little bit,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: and so I like that angle as well. It's not
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: the birthday narrative. I just think it's good with the
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: opposite side. If he's half the ownership of Mahomes over
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: two k cheaper and the ability to use Hi out there.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: He's even cheaper than that, He's almost three k cheaper
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: on fan duels. So just a note, I think Trevor
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Lawrence is the spot that I want to move tonight.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: I think the the run dy could be a little
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: bit tricky too, and then of course if they're down
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: in the game, then just got to pass even more,
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: you suspect. So yeah, it could be a bad game
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: for him, but I definitely have interested in him up
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: top still, and I'll be underweight on Mahomes. I like
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Brian tom Junior, I like Diamie Brown, I like Strange,
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: I like Kelsey. I definitely like the passing options more
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: than the running backs though, So I know you said
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: the same, Hoop, I'll segue it to you if not
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: with these running backs up top, because I'm not super
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: high on it either, just because there's so many potential
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: options here. What's your thoughts in the flex and how
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: are you handling it based on some of these price
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: differences as well.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty tough spot. I mean, the chief situation is,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: I guess, I don't know, like not appealing for fantasy
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: even in showdown options, but the prices have come down
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: a little bit. I mean, we have been used to
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: this situation where we have Puchecko and Hunt and Chucko's
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: still eighty five hundred and hunts like six thousand or something. Well,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: now P Checko is sixty two hundred and hunts all
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: the way down to forty two. Neither of these guys
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: have really done anything this year, which has led them
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: to say they're going to get this Brishard Smith guy
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: a little more involved. And I kind of want to
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: embrace that a little bit today, just because he is
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: the cheapest and probably the way his game sets up
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: is the easiest to kind of get there for fantasy purposes.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: I mean last week we saw four targets, three catches,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: and four attempt so he got it the most work
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: he's gotten all season last last week. I imagine that
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: kind of continues. So at thirty two hundred, I definitely
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: want some Smith. I think he's a fine option. You know,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt is priced where touchdown and he's probably good
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: at forty two hundred, So I do want him a
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: little bit. And then P Chucko on the Chiefs. I
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: would be my least favorite at sixty eight. Is his
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: style like of just you know, running super hard and
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: it's just not it's not getting the job done anymore.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know, like he just doesn't seem like quick
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: enough out there. I mean the highest yardage he has
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: all season is forty five yards. Not really active in
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: the passing game. He's definitely my least favorite on the
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: chief side. You know, I think Etn's fine at ninety
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: eight hundred, not the greatest price tag, but he's been
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: one of the more surprising guys. I mean even in
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: season long best ball stuff, I haven't kind of forgot
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: about him and wrote him off. Well, still getting a
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: lot of work, like he is their their main guy.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Tooton obviously can can sneak in there as well, so
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: I think he's fine at twenty eight, but I'll honestly,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: you'd probably be more focused on the chief dude Smith
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: and Teuton hope that you know, one of them get
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: gets the job done. And then after those two, Etn,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Hunt and Pacheco's kind of how I ranked the running
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: back room here today, and really not much interest in
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: the captain for really any of these guys. So maybe
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: I do circle back and end up playing a little
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: more Trevor Lawrence than I initially thought. If I'm not
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: playing any of these running backs, So I think you
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: guys made some good points with Lawrence he probably starts
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: to trickle back into the conversation for me at the
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: captain position, because I don't really see myself playing these
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: running backs up there today.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: I think he's actually like at ten junior, I think
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: it's to ten, is that right.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: I always say, I'm just a master guy to see.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: If anyone actually fight on that. Just see if I
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: could get the boys going real quick.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: But you can always get us for a pronunciation correction,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: that's for sure. But that one, yeah, that was that
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: was a little bit off, So yeah, that you'll be
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: better next time.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing though, is it's going to
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: be tough to figure out. But on the chief side,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: at least title, you would certainly be paying up for probability.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Especially on FanDuel, it's fifty two hundred for Hunt and
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: then it's eighty four hundred for Pa Checko. I think
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: a lot of people are going to be interested in
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Hunt if they're just picking because they don't know, so
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: they'll just take whoever the lowest price is. Do you
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: have the props there by any means before you go
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: through the thoughts of your own at running back, I'm
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: just curious what the prop's.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Got to be rough and this is a good analogy
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: from Nay. It looks like he's running in mud, super
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: hard effort to go nowhere. I mean that's literally the
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: definition of che.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Kids putting on new shoes and running around that way.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Just stomp stomp, stopping stop, yes, and like yeah, not
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: going anywhere.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Me On Bell, but this guy just goes nowhere. Leveon
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Bell used to do it in like he was then
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: take off. So patient. This guy's just like stomp stump, stomp,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: goes nowhere.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, patience him and ab Back in the day that
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: was a team. Yeah. The running, the rushing props, that's
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: what you want to right. The yard.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: What do these guys got for Touchdowreem props?
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: So the yards?
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: Kareem leads it at twenty six and a half, Check
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: with twenty five and a half. Yeah, there's nothing for
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: Smith etn sixty four and a half, two and eighteen
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: and a half, and.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: Guys are low, they've been so bad.
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: Smith's clearly the best, clear if five percent Smith is
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: the I mean, I think that's one of the best
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: plays on the slate and by far my favorite running back.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: I just don't pa Check has been so bad. Hunt's
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: been so bad. Smith's that new look. I mean, we
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: were talking about and what was it week two or
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: week three? Like on the showdown show just the McKinnon
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: roll coaches keep saying they're going to increase the snaps
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: they finally have you can catch the pass. These other
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: dudes are dust I mean, and that I think it's
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: clear as day if the twos want to win right now,
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: Smith's the best guy to having the backfield, the most dynamics,
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: so he's by far my favorite. I don't think I
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: believe like I think we see Kareem get steam and
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: Pachecko get moonwalked because two k difference for like props
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: so similar. Kareem Hunts props are better for the one
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: yard that we're talking and then he's plus two forty
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: to score Pachecko plus three eighty. Like, if it is
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: really close in ownership, I clearly prefer Kareem Hunt. If
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: we get somewhere like a twelve percent Pachecko twenty eight
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: percent Hunt something, which again I'm probably exaggerating, but then
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: I'd have more interest in the Pachecko side. Just clearly
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: him and Hunter in that range would be the ones
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: to get different with a lot of unknowns, but I
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: still like I prefer Hunter to Pachecko.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: I just think these guys are totally dust. If I'm
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: like Hunter at least has big play upside when we
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: get to there, with the range of outcomes are wide.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: Smith is by far my favorite running back. Etn's fine,
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: but he's expect I clearly prefer Mahomes, Brian Thomas, te
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: law Worthy, I don't know, maybe Brian Thomas ETN close,
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: but I clearly prefer the other ones. And then Tooting.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: He's eighteen and a half rushing prop and plus three
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: eighty to score, like he really needs to score, and
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: even then it's not guaranteed. So the running back rooms
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: so gross. For Shure, It'smith's my favorite at ownership.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that call, and I think that at
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: least you can do whatever I mean if you're if
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: you are on Hunt with five hundred bucks left over,
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: and you could still leave another thousand on the table
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: and just drop it down, and now you've got seventeen
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: hundred or fifteen hundred sorry on the table in that example,
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: like just to make a math problem out of it,
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: you could do something like that, and if you get
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: away with it and it's right, then you're in a
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: much better spot because you have way less dupes. But
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: I think, like this is the other thing. And it's funny, Kenny,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: you say that because then you say the double kicker
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: conversation is like if you're saying there's really no points,
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: then he does not need two touchdowns or anything to
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: be dead on a rival, because you're saying based on
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: his price, but it's too even titles, you know, walk
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: it back a little there, say it maybe it's him
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: instead of Brian Thomas Junior. What if Thomas Junior has
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: the case. I saw it earlier, like you'd think, because
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: we're the injured and all this other stuff. Somebody had
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: it up there. I lost it now, but it was
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: like the props were actually better on I don't know,
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: I lost it now. The props were higher unworthy still
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: than Brian Thomas Junior. So like you could see like
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: sixty on the ground in a touchdown. It might be
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: enough on this late if it's that much lower scoring,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: and you might still need your two kickers in there
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: as well. But you know that's what he said. It
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: was pretty close between those two, right, and most are
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: thinking right now, that Worthy's too scary to play based
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: off the injury, which I get where there's some of that,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: but I don't think ownership is going to reflect that.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Maybe at the captain some but and he gets held
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: in check a little bit there. But I think if
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: he's playing, he's playing, and people are gonna I certainly
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: can tell you that optimizers are aren't gonna be afraid
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: of him, because projection sources aren't afraid of him. It's
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: all baked in, and so you'll have to manually change
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: that on your own. So inputs, outputs, We've had that
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: conversation enough, but projections aren't gonna shy away from that.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: You'll have to put your manual touch on it. Hoop.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: I'll go back to you wide receiver then anything you
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: want to add there, because there's you know, some of
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: the conversation coming up already with Worthy. We talked about
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Brian Thomas, but lots of other options that you could
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: go to here both sides.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the wide receivers just have a built
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: in advantage with the full PPR setup on on drafting.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: So I mean this is a spot where a lot
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: of guys can can kind of get there. So you
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: can make the case for the guys to get there.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: And we've already talked about Worthy. I think he's always
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: a great option, Blox captain, whatever you can do with him,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: love it. Brian Thomas Jr. Hasn't been good. I mean
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: it definitely hasn't been good. I mean you've got to remember,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: just you know, a season ago, end of last season,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: he was probably regarded a top ten wide receiver in
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: the NFL. I mean, the guy with an absolute stud.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Some drops this year, game script stuff hasn't been needed.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: I still think he's good. I still think he's gonna
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: have a good season. He's going to break out at
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: some point, and the showdown format is perfect kind of
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: make a little bit of a move on him. So
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: I want him in all formats. And if you are
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: playing Trevor Lawrence captain teams, which I've kind of circled
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: back on and will be doing, I want him in
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: the flex as well. You start looking like who else
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: can can be the winning captain on this slate at
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: the wide receiver position because I'm gonna play all these
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: guys in flex to some degree because I'm playing the
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks now. I mean I was always playing at least
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: some Mahomes. But now I'm going to be playing Trevor Lawrence.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be good with with anyone in the flex
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Spot Brown Hunter, Juju, Diamie Brown, even Thornton Parker Washington.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: I think it is fine. Like who else can I
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: envision being the optimal captain here? You know, maybe some
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown up top at seven k. I don't think
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: he should have much exposure up there. Yeah we're showing
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: where's that number, Hollywood Brown, We're showing like three percent
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: up top? Yeah'd be fine, Like he has a path
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: to get there. If Mahomes locks in, he goes seven
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: for seventy and you know, finds the end zone. Like
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: that's that's gonna be good enough. So Holly would Brown
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: I'm fine with up there, Diami Brown at two thousand,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Like this guy has been good. You know, if he
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: has ten to twelve fantasy points, he could be the
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: captain that you need. If everyone else there are like
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: five guys that kind of get between fifteen and twenty,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: and he goes out and gets you ten or twelve
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Like that could work. So I'd be good with him
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: up top. But the other guy's definitely in the flex
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Bot Hunter, Juju Thornton, Parker Washington, I think are all fine.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be playing a lot more of these guys
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: than I am the previous position at the running back spot,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: so in on all of them. If you're playing both
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: quarterback captains, I think you should definitely be be playing
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: all these guys. And we have a lot of options
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: here that I think are definitely viable.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think title I'll go I'll go
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: to you same thing. Obviously had a little conversation around
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Worthy earlier, and we talked about Brian Thomas Junior. But
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: what about these other wide receivers.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: I really got nothing more to add about Hooper, Like
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: I don't like the running back room one bit.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: I really like the receiver room.
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: One thing that stands out is just like so Travis
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: Hunter six points six k his receiving prop twenty nine
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: and a half yards, Deemi Brown two K, twenty seven
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: and a half receiving prop two yards less for four
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: point six k savings. I think that just a loon
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: should show how much money you can leave on the
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: table on this late. But yeah, I really have not
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: like Parker Washington will be at four receivers for Jacksonville'll
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: be out there, Four receivers for the Chiefs will be
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: out there, ownerships in check for almost all of them,
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: at least.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: Like how I'd expect it to be.
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: So when I play Mahomes, I'm more likely to play
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: the Thorntons of the world.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: The jujuws the Hollywoods.
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: Same thing if I'm playing Lawrence Parker Washington, all that
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: any hot takes.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, I just think if.
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: You're worried if worthy gets confirmed good to go, I
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: think it'd be a mistake to take the approach that
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: like you have, unless you have some sort of inside information.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: Why would it was ankle swelling off a flight. If
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: his ankle was really that swollen or at risk to reinjure,
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: why would they play him today. They can give you
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: all the drugs and all that stuff too to make
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: you feel good if he does, think he's good.
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: I mean, these like it. I'm not worried about that
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: one bit. My least favorite. Like I definitely prefer Juju
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: in Hollywood over Thornton, just following last week's script and
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: he'll be on the field more. I think Thornton's amazing,
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: Like as a receiver though, and like upside, if Thornton
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: was out there more than them, he'd be one of
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: my favorites. I think he's really good at getting downfield
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: separation in the big play upside, I just want guys
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: on the field a lot more, and the other side, I.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: Don't know what to do with Travis. Hunter's tough.
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: I definitely like DMI Brown and Brian Thomas Junior more
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: than Washington and Hunter. But Hunter snaps went down on
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: defense last week, and if that does continue, they're definitely
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: gonna play more at offense. But he's an uncomfortable click.
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: But I think that's what you want in DFS. I
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: prefer him to put Checko right in that same range
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: where people are gonna go Buckker Juju for cheaper or
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: Hollywood for more and stuff.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, what do you think a Hunter?
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: I think it's interesting. Yeah, I think it's like I said,
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be a spot. You could definitely like ladder
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: him up in the betting markets. It'd be like, if
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: you think he's gonna have a big game at some point,
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: then you got to go you can't really go off
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: the prop. You got to go off of what you
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: actually again, baked in, et cetera, et cetera. But if
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: you're if you haven't been playing or you want to
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: play him all of a sudden or something like like
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Ooba says, if you've been playing him, keep playing him.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: The thing is nobody's been playing him, so you kind
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: of do have to be early on this spot if
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: you want to be the best place to be early
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: would be on a showdown slate when nobody's on him
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: because he's priced out of it or whatever you want
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: to look at it. From that perspective, he's clear leverage.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: He's literally perfect leverage because everyone will be on Brian
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: Thomas Junior first, and for good reason. When people are
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: going to value play, they're going to Brown, who's way less,
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: for good reason. So I think that makes perfect sense.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: And then when you go to the other side, like
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: over on FanDuel, there's no way he gets played because
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Brandon Strange is forty six hundred Brown is four k,
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: like they'll just you know, even though you'd think that's
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: where he'd get more love because he's more affordable, it
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: just makes people think he sucks or you shouldn't get played.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: So the most interesting thing is the hunger games lineup
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: where you can play Kareem Hunt, Travis Hunter, and Hunter
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: Long and get after it tonight and really get different
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: on this slate because if you're playing Travis Hunter and
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: you're not playing Brenton Strange, why not go to Hunter
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Long there. You could set it up that way so
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: Hunt is just cheaper on the other side, getting the
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: equal carries to but Check over cheaper. Maybe you build
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: a lineup like that, and then I will say, I
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: don't know people fact check or look their stuff up.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: But this time last year the stat was out. I
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: remember this because then they got crushed by the Bills.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Lawrence was like eight and O with eight touchdowns or
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: six and oh with eight touchdowns or something like that.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Six starts, eight touchdowns. No, I INT's it was. It
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: was definitely stats that were much better than you would
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: expect out of them. But I just the sample size
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: is always so small on that that I don't care.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Like that's my thinking. So on this late I think
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: I think it's somewhat interesting in the in the room.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: The other thing I was gonna say title you missed
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: your chance. I think Parker Washington is the old only
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: one to successfully come through with the double dip this
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: season so far that you could have got your double
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: dip out there and you can play your Parker Washington
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: with the Jags D here.
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: That'd be something that'd definitely be something. The only problem is,
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure how much I love Jags D. Yeah,
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: these double dips really haven't worked out too much, at
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: least at least on the Showdown slates.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: But yeah, there you go, good call. I always like
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: to know if there is a position skill position player
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: that will have a chance to score on offense and
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: he does return that it's good to know. And Showdown.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I should know Lawrence takes you know, just
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: he wasn't throwing I int he's not making he wasn't
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: making huge mistakes in these games.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: It's not winning every game. But that's what people have
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: to remember again too. You don't have to win it
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: like they don't have to win. The Jags don't have
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: to be the winning team tonight for DFS relevancy, which
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: is all we care about.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Again.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Back to one game tonight, only we're not betting on them.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: We're not betting on the Jags to win. If you
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: want to bet on them, go ahead. I'm just saying
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: that's that's the note I got to keep putting out there.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: So don't have much else to add there. Hoop. I
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: mentioned it at tight end our Kim, big time Jags fan,
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: she's on the inside, and there she is right there.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: She just popped up. Doesn't like Jags d They've had
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: a bunch of sacks and picks this season. This is
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: the best they've looked in here. So maybe she's advocating
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: for the double dip. But I know in the discord
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: she was advocating for the Hunter long touchdown, So maybe
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: we get a little Hunter long action at the tight
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: end position. Who what are you doing there? You got
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Kelsey Gray, Strange and Long, lots of different options, So.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just got I guess I don't even think
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: it's like news, but Worthy expecting to play. See how
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: he feels at the stadium to confirm. So I'm assuming
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: he's good to go, And that kind of was the
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: assumption coming into this that he would play. So I
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: guess another piece.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Earlier than they broke the real news, that's what it is.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: We believed, Yes, we believe. Uh So I like Strange
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: for sure. I mean, he's my favorite tight end I
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: think he'll be not the most popular because people still
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: like playing Kelsey, but Strange I like the most and
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: I think I'm fine playing him him up top. Looked
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: at his targets and he has been very active in
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: this offense. Uh seven, seven, five four opposite direction though,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: so week one was four, then five and seven and seven.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: So it's kind of building building up like he is
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: kind of, you know, the probably the second piece behind
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: Brian Thomas, and you know, maybe right there at the
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Ammi Brown. But I really like him. You know, if
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: he gets one of those games like a five for
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: sixty in a touchdown like that, has a chance to
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: be there up top. So I think strange by far
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Kelsey just flecks for me, Like I can't play him
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: up top man, Like he just I don't think he
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: has the upside anymore. I mean, he just looks slow
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: out there. It's just going to be a flex play
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: when I'm playing, not only when I'm playing Mahomes up top,
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: but like if I'm playing Mahomes up top, like that's
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: that's the best way to play Kelsey, I guess, is
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say. In those Mahomes Captain teams
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: good with Noah Gray, good with Hunter Long, and then
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: is a month showing at us all at all in
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: terms of projection. We have him at two uh and
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: he or no we have him hat like one. So
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: maybe potentially we have n't at one and a half
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: a little bit of him. Actually we have him at
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: point three. But it should be a little higher. H
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: t law Captain Teams, I can. I would be fine.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: And it's not going to be like a crazy amount
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: like if he gets in there like three or four
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: percent or something on Travis or.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: Eighteen hundred to get in the box that you're a
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: new tight end.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Not too bad. Actually plus eighteen hundred might have to fight,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: might have to fire at that a.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: Little about first touch that.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the real odds are ye, substantially worse than that.
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: But yeah plus nine plus nine thousand plus seventeen thousand
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: for two.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: But where is the full I mean, he is maybe
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: the only viable full on punt.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: Let me see, he definite is on the slate.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: No one else is even projecting for you to.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: Go out to Hunter Long to two K one k
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: one kay uh?
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: The who's this dude? The quint Allen Junior for the
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: Jaguars has like a small projections at.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: Fan doing night. I was looking at Fano my bad
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah right four hundred, you're right. Yeah.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: So, like you know, sometimes there's those lineups where you
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: absolutely have to have the full punt and like if
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: they do anything, like you just need it. So I
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: don't know, I mean, again not a primary play, but
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: if he gets in there a little bit, that's fine.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, anything can happen the lakeent Allen Junior, this guy is,
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: he's up there in the points per dollar people looking
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: at the site. I think the main thing with that
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: is it's almost like Ray Davis last night. I mean,
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: he had a couple of chances there. If he gets
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: the touchdown last night, it still wouldn't have mattered, probably
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: because of Curtis Samuel who also was up there in
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: the projections, but just of noting like that's that's what
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: you're thinking about when you're looking at those plays. Hunter
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: long would be more of the ability to I mean
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: three k less than strange. You could play them instead.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: You could play them, you know, to fill out your
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: lineup and not just leave the money but use it
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: to get more up top or get a different lineup
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: that way, so there's a couple different ways you can
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: go there. But I actually think the I like Kelsey.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: If if he's gonna have like a big game, it's
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: gotta be like a two touchdown game. And if if
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: they can move it on anybody, it's gotta be this
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: spot here, I think, and this you know, move the chains,
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: pick up like eight catches, maybe get a touchdown. I
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: don't know. It's tough to say, but I don't hate
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: him up top, so I'm not gonna be against playing
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: him in the flex as well. At seventy six hundred
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: up top he's eleven to four, so it's a bit
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: trickier for sure, but I don't hate it. So I'm
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: gonna be using Kelsey on this slate, you know. Other
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: than that, I'll be moving. I'll you Strange and long
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: a little bit more. I don't know how much Gray
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: I'll get to. But the other guys I don't mind
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: at all. Kickers and D's title anything for you there.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: I don't know, Kim.
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: I don't think I can do your jigs. So Chiefs
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: are fine. I don't really love it too much. I
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: always prefer kickers. Kickers are fine, But there's just the
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: problem is there's just so much like Parker Washington, Kareem Hunt,
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: Purshard Smith, Tooton, Gray Brown. You're playing the Johnny Muns,
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: the Longs, like, we have so many guys that will
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: be on the field that on full point PPR sites
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: can if they get in the box, I mean, they
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: can easily have the Curtis Samuel ten. You need the
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: Kickers outscore that, which definitely can happen. But it's easier
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: to leave money too, going from the kickers and playing
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: one of those cheaper pieces. So Kickers definitely over defenses,
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: I would say in general, though I probably like it
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: a lot less.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: Than I do on most showdown slates.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it could be the thing Kenny mentioned earlier. Who
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: if this is back to our roots here, I've had
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: some good chief slates using double Kicker, and mind you,
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: one of them was with I remember for sure with
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: Kelsey up top. So opposite thoughts there, but you usually
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: like the double Kicker. They're definitely at the affordable price
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: point here fifty four hundred and five k It's not
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: that crazy and it's not like there's you know, based
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: on just the wide receiver stats alone. The title brought
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: up and then on top of it, up the running
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: back stats of what he brought up, he'd be and
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: you were both like twenty five apiece for but Checko
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: and Hunts like they go, they might both hit fifty
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: in that instance. Again, they're just props. They can beat them,
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: but at least makes it somewhat interesting to these guys
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: just rack up the kicker points. What's your thoughts?
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, And on both these guys. I mean, I
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: always love playing Bucker. I mean, he's he's been really
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: good for a while and has the ability to put
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: up big scores and then correct me if I'm wrong.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: With this Cam little guy. He's the one that kicked
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: like a seventy yard or something in the preseason, I believe,
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Like so there's like massive upside I believe with this dude.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: I think he has a huge leg. Some of them
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: will be able to back that up pretty quickly in
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: the chet, but I'm fairly certain that's the dude that
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: made one from seventy in the preseason. So it's like,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: if he has that sort of upside, he can get us.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: They don't get six for sixty years right now.
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: They don't. Unfortunately they should, but he kicked seventy.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so he's got a massive leg, Like we can
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: we can pick up five quick points at the end
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: of the half or something if they if they get there.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: So I mean this guy, I'm definitely in on him
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: as well. Double kicker for sure, Like definitely good with
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: double kicker. I mean this is this could be a
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: different sort of slate in terms of the outcome. So
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: I'm good with that. Defenses. Fine with the Chiefs some,
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: but don't love the Jaguars. I mean the Chiefs do
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: a good job of really not turning the ball over
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: all that much. So fine with some Chiefs, but don't
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: really like the Jags. And obviously you know much prefer
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: the kickers over both.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not that big. It's nine point two five
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: inches in circumference his legs. So there's there's lots of
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: people with bigger legs than Cam Little, but he's he's not.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: He's got a big leg, like he said.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: So I was like, what do you what are you
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: typing out right there? Where are we going back.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: To this records?
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: Man?
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: We got to check the Guinness easy.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: Now, what are you talking about that third leg?
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: Or what I always wondering circumference.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: Goop always goes to the dirty streets.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Man, brain that one up. You framed that one up
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: way too uh wall.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: He got a big leg. I don't know you were
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: thinking about it. I was just verifying. So Draftings, we'll
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: move it along. We'll move it along. But I don't
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: I don't have much else to say besides the lineup
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: that I'm looking at. If you do play double kicker,
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: you could still get pretty much whatever you want of
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: that combination the title mentioned earlier. If you're looking at Mahomes,
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: Lawrence Thomas Worthy, etn. Like, you get to pick your
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: poison in there. I think it's going to be picking
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: you know, three of those and leaving the money on
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: the table for the final spot or something like that.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: That's that's what I have to say. I knew i'd
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: get the chat fired up on this one. Of course,
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: mister Dombong knows. They said, of course, who knows what
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: that looks like?
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: It's true, that's true.
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: Why doesn't DraftKings get in there?
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: Though?
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: And like people in now kick sixty yard field goals?
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: I know, maybe twenty years eight years ago, not as
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: many did, but that's six points.
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: I mean it.
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: I know, like those points matter. We saw yesterday Rio
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: took second with that kicker passed them. I mean that
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: fifty yard or those forty Like nothing worse than thirty
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: nine forty nine when you when you have those, Oh.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: It's the absolute worse. Also, the Green Bay Dallas game
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: with the overtime, Like now that the ot is shorter,
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: like everything that goes into that, why are we not
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: just having kickers like a shootout here you go, you
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: start from thirty, make it okay, make make forty. Make
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: let's see who gets the seventy and gets the job done,
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: and then that's the end of the game. And that's
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: what your kickers there for, like get your good kicker
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: or suck like that's how it goes. You lose. But
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know, they never do anything fun like that.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: It's not that hard. It would be amazing for the
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: rare time it happens. It just adds that extra bit
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: of fun to it. But whatever, I don't know. They
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: can all they can do a bunch of different stuff,
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: all right, FanDuel thoughts hoop anything you want to add
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: for FanDuel.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: The one thing I will say, definitely the quarterbacks will
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: get I think extreme ownership up top, just because it's
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: it's it's tough after that. Brian Thomas Junior is the
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: second highest guy on the slate, so it goes Mahomes
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: at thirteen to eight, and then it goes to Thomas
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: Junior at twelve six, and then et On and then Lauren.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: So these quarterbacks have to just get massive ownership in
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: the MVP spot. I think really, anything else you do
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: outside of the quarterbacks, it's going to be pretty different.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: Like it's tough to make the case for guys outside
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: of Mahomes and Trevor Lawrence over there. Yeah, it's shown
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: pretty high. I wouldn't be surprised. I'm guessing between those
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: two it's in the sixty to seventy percent ownership range.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: So anything else is going to be different. The other
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: pricing difference, for sure was Travis Hunters all the way
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: down to like forty eight hundred, so he's priced right
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: there with like Brenton Strange. So if you like Hunter
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: and you're playing on both sites, I mean maybe come
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: to FANDUL a little bit over the DK. Let's look
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: at these Chiefs running backs.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: Thornton is another one way up there, seventy four verus fifty.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: Two seventy four for Thornton. That is ends that's wild.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: That is a wild price tag. Jeez, I don't know
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: really how you.
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: Can kind of I will say when he gets there though,
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: like if he gets there today, he very well still
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: could end up there, just because the one play like
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: eighty yard upside, it's really hard to click.
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: But you know his range of outcomes.
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: At least when you click someone like that, you want
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: him to be really wide and he has upside at least.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: But Pa Checko, it's like thirty two hundred between Pachecko
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: and Hunt. They're basically as as title said, in terms
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: of the yard age, it's like they're basically the same play,
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: but it's thirty two hundred dollars difference. Yeah, already talked
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: about Travis Hunter that that's quite the difference, like two
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: in that fifty six hundred, Like that's not even like
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: a cheap price day. I still like this Brishard Smith
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: three k flat over on FanDuel. But the main thing
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: is that the quarterbacks are going to be massively owned
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: up top, and then Travis Hunter is substantially cheaper, and
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: then you get a pretty big gap again between Hunt
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: and Pachecko.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, title, did you see anything else there? Do you
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: want to point out.
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: Like Brian Thomas has to be super low with Worthy
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: being two k less than him. I agree with what
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: Hoop said about the quarterbacks, Like, if you're playing FanDuel
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: and someone like the person that mentioned it earlier, just
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: like fading that chalkier quarterbacks and getting higher on everyone else,
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: you could really just x out Mahomes. He could be
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: forty percent over there. If you'd play anyone butt Mahomes,
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: you can get overweight on like four or five guys.
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: I don't hate that. Yeah, Brishard Smith looks good three
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: k when a lot of people will be going brown,
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: strange Hunter who seems mispriced. Parker Washington and Touton are
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: the clear Jacksonville guys that are leverage off of so
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: much on this late being higher price than those other
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: guys I just mentioned for a worst projection.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. One thing that I think is super interesting from
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: the FanDuel perspective is about the kind of the points
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: you both just made. But with the Mahomes factor is
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: so first of all, Mahomes is way more in the
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: MVP twenty seven hundred, yet still the most popular, and
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: typically that's because there is so many options you can
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: fit with them, and you can make the case for
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: all the guys we said to make a version of
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: that fit. But when you have all the other guys
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: priced up, like we said, like Thornton is a bunch
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: more Juju six k, Hollywood Brown almost eight k, Kelsey
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: ninety two hundred, like you are putting yourself in a
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: bit of a flip where you could move those guys
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: into the MVP, get Mahomes in the flex, and still
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: be able to afford a better and different lineup. So
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: I actually think FanDuel is a place to get unique.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: I know a lot of people have asked about it,
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: and you know, with the changes this year, I think
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: that's the best part of it. Before it was so
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: heavy just quarterback only because it kind of would be
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: the setup of that's where the most raw points are
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: coming from. Just so more often than not it still
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: could be the case tonight, depending on how you have
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: the game playing out. But I think some of those
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: any of those Mahomes captain builds, you're able to flip
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: somebody else from the flex into the MVP, move him
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: into the flex, and then be able to just upgrade
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: or boost your lineup a little bit, or get a
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: completely different build style while still being on a similar
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: type of game outcome. So yeah, I think that's I
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: think FanDuel is super interesting tonight. I'm actually excited about
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: it more, even more than DraftKings. I like it tonight,
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: all right, Any anything else, title, any fou thought, anything
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: else you want to bring up?
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: No, A lot of money up top. Football on the
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: screen is good, Little Brewer cub action at night as well,
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: double screening and you get the chips flying as well.
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: God gonna be a good night.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: Remember Whop told us the Lions were the Tigers were done,
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: The Lions were dust every sport he talked. He's just
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: like trying to jink reverse Jenson or something. I think
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: is what he's really trying to any of that stuff.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: But I might be right about the Tigers that they
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: literally can't hit the baseball like they can't. They can't hit.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: So like if you can't hit and score any.
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: One one coming back home as a dog and I'll
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: take that spot.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: What about the blue Jays, man over the Yankee Yah,
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: they said they're cheating, But the Blue Jays are just
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: smashing in these games.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they are.
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: And the Brew crew as well. They put a stomping
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: in the first first on the Cubs.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: Anything else from you, I got one thing to show off.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: I know, I love to see this. Our guy, sweet
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: boy Eaton Cohen. We talked about Rio last night, but
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: you know I had Kevin with ten k just above
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: them there though, eating Cold one hundred k back to
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: back weeks. Now, jaywalking last week and Cohen this week
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: one hundred k apiece and then you stack that on
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: top of MMA twenty K, eight K, six hundred bucks.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: And then earlier in the day it was our man
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: hamhocket in forty k plus his third live final seat,
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: Barry Manilow first time ship one hundred and eighty eight bucks.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: The eighty two hundred over here said, went to your
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: slight plan, picked what they said, filled out two more
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: spots with your projections. Bam. It was like every sport
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: all weekend. It did not stop.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: Well, let's finish a strong, Let's get something tonight, get
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: those logos up to the top and keep it, keep
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: it rolling.
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, got it, boy, let's go. I didn't know that.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: Let's see that it.
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: Might be the only one you missed titles I went
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: this morning. I knows he's in every freaking channel. He's commenting,
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: he's congratulating everything. How did you miss that one?
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: I have no clue.
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: I'm wondering the same thing. I saw a lot of
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: awesome stuff. I mean, live very like I've seen like
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: fourteen bucks in the thousands. Like we're talking, all bankerls,
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: all different levels. It all adds up.
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: You can pay for the the tank of gas with
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: the DFS money on DraftKings every week, You'll you'll be
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: loving life.
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: The wife will be happy for you as well. So
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: there you go.
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: You know what else fits all bank rolls and cost
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: less than a tank of gas?
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: Nineteen dollars five days?
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: You got her? My man? How geez man? Our team
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: as sharp as against right away? Five days nineteen dollars.
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: Go to ship at nation dot com. We don't need
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: to beg you at this point. Just you should check
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: it out. You're costing yourself. There's nothing that says you
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: need to pick one spot. Our hope is when you
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: see ship at Nation and you get to test everything
• 57:30
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• 57:32
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• 57:35
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• 57:36
  Speaker 2: we've kept everything super affordable since day one to make
• 57:39
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• 57:41
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• 57:44
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• 57:46
  Speaker 2: just start there and then you can adjust and see
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: what you want to upgrade too. Down the road, we'll
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: get different promos things like that. Hoop. Any final marketing
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: thoughts from you before we get here.
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: No, sir, we'd love to have you get in the discord.
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: Very active friend Discord, great community, and we're looking for
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: new people to join us for the ride, so come
• 58:06
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• 58:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I lost it there. I think I was gonna
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: pull one more thing. I was trying to pull it
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: just for our guy, our guy Kenny, to keep to
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: make him happy. I lost it anyway, Kenny said, I
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: can turn What do you say here?
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: He said, thousand? Yeah, yeah, I've been there for sure.
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah he's good.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: He's good, ninety six thousand yesterday and that doesn't include
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: his fifty thousand screenshot from NASCAR on top of it
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: or whatever. So congrats again to Kenny our boy. We
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: really appreciate I appreciate him, love to have him in
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: the community, always helping others out and showing the goods,
• 58:39
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  Speaker 2: going on. But yeah, just a good, good fun time.
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  Speaker 2: If you guys want to check it out, it's easy
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