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Talk About That - Best Of 2026 | Movie Theaters, Magic Tricks, and Hardships · LifeAudio

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  Speaker 1: Hey out there to all of our friends from Banter Town,
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  Speaker 1: this is John. As you've probably heard by now after
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  Speaker 1: 10 years of Talk About That episodes airing most every week,
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  Speaker 1: Johnny and I have hit an especially busy season in
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  Speaker 1: both of our lives that has required us to take
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  Speaker 1: a little hiatus from weekly episodes. Hey, but fear not.
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  Speaker 1: We'd still like to bring you some of the best
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  Speaker 1: of Talk About That. These are some of our most
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  Speaker 1: downloaded episodes from the past several years. So whether you're
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  Speaker 1: hearing these conversations again or discovering them for the first time,
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  Speaker 1: we hope you'll enjoy diving back into some of our
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  Speaker 1: favorite talks. As always, thanks so much for listening, and
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  Speaker 1: we hope you enjoy this episode.
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  Speaker 2: Life Audio.
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  Speaker 3: Today on Talk About That, John teaches us about the
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  Speaker 3: history of candy and ponders growing a skullet. Meanwhile, I
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  Speaker 3: have a senior moment at the movie theater and try
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  Speaker 3: to find out why Betty Ford danced on a table
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  Speaker 3: at the White House. Plus, a conversation about how difficulties
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  Speaker 3: and trials tend to deepen our relationships. Today's episode is
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  Speaker 3: not sponsored by the stock market, like a casino, but
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  Speaker 3: without the free drinks. But first, a word from our
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  Speaker 2: Put those headphones in, guys.
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  Speaker 1: Sit back and relax and enjoy another episode of Talk
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  Speaker 1: About That with John and Johnny.
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  Speaker 3: How would they have heard that first part if they
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  Speaker 3: didn't have headphones in then?
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  Speaker 2: That's a good point. Well, you could hear it through
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  Speaker 2: your phone before you plugged it in.
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  Speaker 3: I saw a movie last week, by the way, and
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  Speaker 3: I felt the oldest I've ever felt because it was
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  Speaker 3: great because I watched this other podcast. I watched this
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  Speaker 3: podcast sometimes called Food Court that a buddy of mine
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  Speaker 3: who's a comedian, Sean Parrott, does. And they just review movies. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't go to the movies very much anymore.
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  Speaker 3: We've talked about this. The kind of movies have become
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  Speaker 3: kind of a thing. It's a lot of money, and
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  Speaker 3: it's also just like you stream everything, and your home
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  Speaker 3: is like your movie theater now. You've got your recliner.
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  Speaker 3: You've got your stuff. Right. You've got your high-def television.
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  Speaker 3: You've got your sound system, whatever. So the experience of
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  Speaker 3: going to the movies is changing. So I go to
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  Speaker 3: the movies maybe twice a year now, and I was
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  Speaker 3: a big movie guy. Oh, yeah. But it takes a
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  Speaker 3: lot to get me to the movies now. But they
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  Speaker 3: reviewed this movie called Black Bag, which seemed like an
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  Speaker 3: old-style spy thriller. And I didn't know anything about it
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  Speaker 3: except for, you've got to go see it. It's got
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  Speaker 3: a 98% tomato meter or whatever. Go see it. And
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  Speaker 3: I think who's in it? Michael Fassbender. I can't remember
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  Speaker 3: who else is in it. But it's basically just this–
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  Speaker 3: it's a lot of Brits. So I'm sitting in this theater.
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  Speaker 3: And you know what I'm about to say. I'm sitting there,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm enjoying it. And it's a very cool movie.
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  Speaker 3: But I am having to process in real time these accents.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm thinking, where are my captions?
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  Speaker 1: I am freaking out because I'm like, you know how
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  Speaker 1: you realize what they said after they get up and
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  Speaker 1: do it?
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  Speaker 3: You're like, oh, he said this.
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  Speaker 1: But now you're already like three scenes. My processor's not
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  Speaker 1: going as fast because I'm not able to read.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm thinking, I wonder if this is going to
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  Speaker 3: lose even more people. Yeah. Because they're like, I need
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  Speaker 3: my captions.
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  Speaker 2: I need my captions.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes that's just one character will come on. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, we'll turn this on until this character, until
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  Speaker 1: I get used to this character.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: It's like getting into a hot tub.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, so you give you, okay.
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  Speaker 2: Like an accent hot tub.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And then once you're used to it, you turn it
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  Speaker 2: back off, and now I know. You know, you gotta
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  Speaker 2: train yourself.
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  Speaker 3: That sounds like an app, Accent Hot Tub.
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  Speaker 2: AccentHotTub.com, not a sponsor.
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  Speaker 3: Not a sponsor. Could be, though. Yeah. Now, you know what?
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  Speaker 2: Interestingly enough, did you know that Raisinets....
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  Speaker 3: Sure. Sure.
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  Speaker 2: Snowcaps.
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  Speaker 3: Also not a sponsor. Goobers. Are you going to say
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  Speaker 3: these all have the same ingredients?
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  Speaker 2: Milk duds.
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  Speaker 3: No, okay.
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  Speaker 2: Milk duds.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: These candies that are traditionally what you eat in movie
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  Speaker 1: theaters were created for movie theater industry.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: They weren't like candies. You can buy them elsewhere.
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  Speaker 3: You couldn't get a Milk Dud on the street. Right.
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  Speaker 3: If you did, you wouldn't want to eat it.
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  Speaker 2: That's true.
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  Speaker 3: Don't eat a Milk Dud in the street.
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  Speaker 2: Those contraband Milk Duds, people were dying left and right.
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  Speaker 3: Or just literally on the street. Don't eat a Street Dud.
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  Speaker 2: That may not be a Milk Dud.
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  Speaker 3: That's not a Milk Dud at all.
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  Speaker 2: If it looks like a Milk Dud and it's on
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  Speaker 2: the street, don't eat it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm glad we didn't step in this.
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  Speaker 1: This sounds like advice that Santa gave to an elf
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  Speaker 1: before he went to New York City. Anyway, yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: like popcorn was a thing originally. but it was so messy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It left so much. And, and so these, this is
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  Speaker 2: what interesting movie theaters.
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  Speaker 3: People would get dressed up to go to the theater too.
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  Speaker 3: So they don't want oily stains on there.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Well, have you ever heard of movie palaces?
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  Speaker 3: Sure. Heard that phrase.
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  Speaker 1: So at first, these were just kind of like wherever
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  Speaker 1: you could project. And then they kind of wanted to
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  Speaker 1: go like Broadway theaters. And so that's why they... There's
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  Speaker 1: still a couple that exist today that are really famous.
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  Speaker 1: But they built these elaborate theaters.
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  Speaker 3: Big chandeliers and the whole thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for movie productions and projections.
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  Speaker 1: And so they didn't want people coming in there all
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  Speaker 1: dressed up like you're going to Broadway and eating popcorn
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  Speaker 1: and leaving grease everywhere and butter and all this stuff
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  Speaker 1: on the floor.
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  Speaker 3: So.
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  Speaker 2: They produced these other candies. And so the guys came
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  Speaker 2: up with it.
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  Speaker 3: Less mess.
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  Speaker 1: That's why those candies right now, even to this day,
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  Speaker 1: you're not, you don't go into a gas station and
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  Speaker 1: think about getting a, am I going to get a
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  Speaker 1: Snickers or am I going to get some snow caps?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they feel like a movie theater candy.
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  Speaker 2: Because they are.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Junior Mints, maybe?
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, Junior Mints was the other one.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm sorry to say, I don't think I've ever,
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  Speaker 3: I think the first time I ever had a Junior
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  Speaker 3: Mint was in a movie theater.
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  Speaker 2: And they were all the same company.
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  Speaker 3: Huh.
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  Speaker 2: Junior Mints, Goobers. Now, Milk Does was a different company.
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  Speaker 1: The guy worked for like four years trying to create
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  Speaker 1: a perfectly spherical milk dud. And you never could because
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  Speaker 1: the hot chocolate would always melt the caramel on the inside.
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  Speaker 1: That's why they're called duds. He finally just gave into it.
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  Speaker 2: Like, I can't. These are just duds. And he just
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  Speaker 2: gave into it. And here we go. But do you
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  Speaker 2: think about it? They're not as uniform shaped, any of them.
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  Speaker 2: They're just chocolate.
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  Speaker 1: They just threw them into like this tumbler almost. You
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  Speaker 1: throw it in there and you could chocolate cover almost anything.
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  Speaker 1: We'll make a chocolate covered peanut.
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  Speaker 2: There's your goober. We'll make a chocolate covered mint thing.
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  Speaker 2: There's your.
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  Speaker 1: So anyway, when you eat that theater candy, it was
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  Speaker 1: made for that experience.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But made to replace popcorn. That's why they're bigger and
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  Speaker 1: you can eat it long, especially the big caramel things.
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  Speaker 3: You see these people that throw the sweet snacks into
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  Speaker 3: the popcorn and just have a grab all because they
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  Speaker 3: want the sweet and salty together. You ever see people
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  Speaker 3: do that? No. Throw the Reese's Pieces into the popcorn
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  Speaker 3: and then they just kind of reach in there.
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  Speaker 1: No. No?
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  Speaker 3: Those people are out there. Interesting. It's like the people
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  Speaker 3: that dip their fries in the Frosty. I'll do that.
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  Speaker 3: Because they want that salty sweet.
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  Speaker 2: I could do that all day.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Johnny, I've done that all day, and that's why... This
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  Speaker 1: feels like a food podcast now.
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  Speaker 3: We've gotten.
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  Speaker 2: These health issues.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know. We have.
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  Speaker 1: I will say, you and I have an interesting, both
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  Speaker 1: of us, interesting food histories. And I don't mean, like,
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  Speaker 1: just what we've eaten. But I mean, like, there's a
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  Speaker 1: relationship with food that's complicated here. I'll not talk about that.
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  Speaker 3: Sure.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes we do talk about food. I say every episode
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  Speaker 1: there's a food segment. We need to create a segment
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  Speaker 1: just about food.
• 7:44
  Speaker 3: Because that's somewhat... Eat about that. Somewhat....
• 7:50
  Speaker 1: Someone sent us a message and they wanted me to
• 7:52
  Speaker 1: do a new something, a new segment.
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  Speaker 2: And I realized then, Johnny has two segments.
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  Speaker 3: Two segments.
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  Speaker 2: I only have one.
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  Speaker 3: How many segments do you think we would have if
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  Speaker 3: I hadn't had the idea to have segments? Because you
• 8:02
  Speaker 3: just want to have a free-for-all.
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  Speaker 2: That is not true. I just didn't think we could
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  Speaker 2: ever get there.
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  Speaker 1: And be consistent.
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  Speaker 3: And who had the foresight to think that we could
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  Speaker 3: get there?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's true. After about three or four or five years,
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  Speaker 2: you've got.
• 8:19
  Speaker 1: Guys, if you want to know the dynamic of Johnny
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  Speaker 1: and me on this front, Johnny's a dreamer.
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  Speaker 2: He's a dreamer.
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  Speaker 3: Am I?
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  Speaker 2: He shoots for the stars.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm also a dreamer.
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  Speaker 3: I think I just want to find fault with everything
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  Speaker 3: that you do. I'm a critic.
• 8:39
  Speaker 1: Wow, I didn't know that you knew it was that real.
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  Speaker 1: I thought you were just doing it and it feels
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  Speaker 1: like that to me. But you're telling me, no, I
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm doing.
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  Speaker 3: No, I know.
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  Speaker 2: I want to find fault with everything you do.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to. I just do. I find fault.
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  Speaker 2: This reminds me of something.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you finished what you were saying, though. Well, that's
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  Speaker 3: the thing. That I'm a dreamer.
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  Speaker 2: And so then I'm trying to execute. Some say I'm
• 8:57
  Speaker 2: a dreamer, but I'm not the only one. I'm trying
• 8:59
  Speaker 2: to execute Johnny's dreams.
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 9:02
  Speaker 2: Here on the podcast and I know it takes a
• 9:04
  Speaker 2: lot of equipment.
• 9:05
  Speaker 3: Not like execute them put them up against.
• 9:07
  Speaker 1: That wall and shoot them no I just I think
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  Speaker 1: it's a it's a good match but it takes time
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  Speaker 1: like the change right now the office took a long
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  Speaker 1: time yeah and I'm still not done no but the
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  Speaker 1: pictures are almost all picked now now it's got to
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  Speaker 1: get the frames but I don't know if I want
• 9:21
  Speaker 1: a bunch of pictures back here so here's what's going
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  Speaker 1: to happen people.
• 9:23
  Speaker 3: I think they need to go on this other wall
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  Speaker 3: that we don't see.
• 9:25
  Speaker 1: Here's what's going to happen people I'm going to put
• 9:27
  Speaker 1: the pictures right here where I want them because I'm
• 9:29
  Speaker 1: working in here now I'm working people And if it
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: doesn't make for a good back shot, we're hanging a curtain,
• 9:35
  Speaker 1: a retractable curtain. And I'll just pull the curtain and
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: it'll be just like now. It'll be, in fact, it'll
• 9:40
  Speaker 1: be better because the light will catch in a black
• 9:42
  Speaker 1: curtain better than that wall right there.
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  Speaker 2: I've already researched it.
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  Speaker 3: And when the curtain opens and it's like a theater,
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  Speaker 3: it's like a, it already reaches for those snow caps.
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  Speaker 3: And someone brings in some milk duds. Snow caps aren't,
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  Speaker 3: they weren't ever my favorite snow caps.
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  Speaker 2: No, not snow caps.
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  Speaker 1: But to this day, junior mints, Actually, my favorite of
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  Speaker 1: all time still is Raisinets. And that was the one
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  Speaker 1: in there that they started with. Raisinets.
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  Speaker 3: Pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: A guy came in. No one wanted it.
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  Speaker 1: And he was like shopping because he was a movie
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  Speaker 1: theater guy.
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  Speaker 2: He was actually the father of concessions.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So he came up with concessions. Started off in like
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  Speaker 2: a Broadway thing.
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: Started figuring out how he came up with a concession machine.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So they had machines doing automatic.
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  Speaker 3: Like a vending machine. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: They had vending machines for other things, but not for food.
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  Speaker 1: He started thinking of what kind of food could.
• 10:28
  Speaker 2: Last in there. Listen, you know where this is all from.
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 1: Food to Built America people. We should get the History
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: Channel to become a sponsor. Maybe they will be. We
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: don't know what's on that.
• 10:40
  Speaker 2: We're kind of.
• 10:40
  Speaker 3: A history podcast now more than we were in the beginning.
• 10:44
  Speaker 2: I don't want to get you excited. Okay. But that
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: project we've been talking about a long time.
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  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's been about two years. I'm waiting on
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  Speaker 1: the final draft of the final contract to sign.
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  Speaker 2: And then I'll be writing a new history book.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm thinking about, now I don't want to say
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  Speaker 2: this because if I don't do it, I look like
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  Speaker 2: a fool, Johnny, a fool.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking about starting maybe a, a limited series podcast
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: about that.
• 11:11
  Speaker 2: Topic of the book to go along with it.
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  Speaker 3: And not including me.
• 11:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you'd want to be included for this.
• 11:16
  Speaker 3: Can I be left out?
• 11:17
  Speaker 2: You want to be left out?
• 11:18
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you probably need to get people that
• 11:19
  Speaker 3: know about the, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: If it's going to.
• 11:22
  Speaker 3: Other scholars.
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I'll be interview-based or if I'll
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: just tell the stories, you know, kind of thing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 11:28
  Speaker 2: And then.
• 11:29
  Speaker 3: I want to do a podcast critiquing that podcast.
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  Speaker 2: It could be.
• 11:34
  Speaker 3: I want to be like a.
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: Like the Rise and Fall of John Driver's podcast.
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  Speaker 3: Yes. Yeah.
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's... By the way, you know the guy that
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: did the Rise and Fall of Mars Hill, another really
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: famous podcast in our time.
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: They have a new one out about... the satanic panic,
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: which we talk about a lot here.
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, really?
• 11:54
  Speaker 3: They go through the eighties.
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: And nineties and all the stuff. I think that I'm
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: going to listen to that one. Cause you and I
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: have a lot of discussions here about that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I think moral, moral panics in general are fascinating
• 12:04
  Speaker 3: to me because the way they just shape culture and
• 12:08
  Speaker 3: then in a way that the ripple effects continue like generationally,
• 12:12
  Speaker 3: because now we're kind of back to it. We're kind
• 12:14
  Speaker 3: of back. We're seeing it now again in like popular
• 12:16
  Speaker 3: culture with like, people thinking that everyone in Hollywood is
• 12:20
  Speaker 3: trafficking children or whatever, just because it's like popular to
• 12:23
  Speaker 3: say it. Like if you, if you don't like somebody's politics,
• 12:25
  Speaker 3: you just go, they're on the Epstein list or whatever
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  Speaker 3: you want to say. Right. There's no proof. There's nobody
• 12:29
  Speaker 3: ever has. It's like, it's just, you can just say it. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: and you just go, it's a, it's a new moral panic,
• 12:35
  Speaker 3: you know? Yeah.
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: If, if the country even tried to monitor what is
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: libel or slander. Yeah. Like, because the justice system is
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: so backed up as it is, you could never keep
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: up right now without it. Like you have to be
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: a billionaire to be able to actually try to hold
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: someone accountable for.
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  Speaker 3: Which now billionaires are good. Yeah. That's the other thing
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  Speaker 3: that's happened is like we have billionaires we like and
• 13:03
  Speaker 3: billionaires we don't like.
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  Speaker 2: I've known one billionaire. Okay. And he was amazing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: One of the highest character people that I've met. You
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying?
• 13:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 13:13
  Speaker 2: So it's not always a matter of money.
• 13:14
  Speaker 3: But he also paid you a lot of money to
• 13:16
  Speaker 3: write a book with him. So are you bought and
• 13:18
  Speaker 3: paid for? Are you in on the grift?
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  Speaker 2: I didn't get paid any more than I get paid
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  Speaker 2: to write other books.
• 13:24
  Speaker 3: How much would I have to pay you? Can we
• 13:27
  Speaker 3: talk off air about it?
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: A book needs to happen.
• 13:29
  Speaker 3: John, this seems like a good time to bring in
• 13:31
  Speaker 3: a few of our fine sponsors that help us keep
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• 13:49
  Speaker 2: Hey, we're back.
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: I went to a movie last night that was an
• 13:52
  Speaker 3: older movie. They're doing a retrospective at the local art house,
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: which is the Belcourt. You ever go to the Belcourt?
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: I've been to the Belcourt.
• 13:57
  Speaker 3: So the Belcourt's doing a series of films based on
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: what they call the Saturday Night Live universe. So if
• 14:03
  Speaker 3: you were ever on Saturday Night Live or a contributor
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: and then you did a movie or Lorne Michaels produced
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: or not, they kind of are doing this a month
• 14:11
  Speaker 3: long series. And so they did one with– because Christopher
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: Guest was one of my favorites from the 80s. He
• 14:15
  Speaker 3: was only on there a couple of seasons, but he
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: went on to produce all these what you call mockumentaries. Yeah.
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: He was in Spinal Tap. That was not his. A
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: lot of people think that that was the first one,
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: but actually that was a Rob Reiner production. Right. But
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: then he went on to make things like Waiting for Guffman,
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: which was about local theater. And then he did Best
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: in Show, which is about dog show people. My favorite
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: is A Mighty Wind, which is about folk music. And
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: so they were showing it at the bell court and
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: we went last night. But anyway, the trailers they showed,
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: some of them were for old movies that were out.
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: They were part of the other Saturday Night Live universe.
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: And one of them was for, they showed the original
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: trailer for Wayne's World. And I, it was such a
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: weird trip to see. First of all, just how movie
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: trailers were presented back then versus now, uh, was such
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: a difference in the nineties. And so that was kind
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: of a trip. But, uh, It was funny because the
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: theater was pretty full. It was like two-thirds full. And
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: it was interesting to see people laugh, knowing the jokes.
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: We know the jokes, but they've become part of our culture.
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: So that was kind of cool, though. But yeah, that
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: was a wild one, seeing Wayne's World and that whole,
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: I don't know, watching that influence on the universe from
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: such a silly film. But I don't know. But I'm
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: a big fan of A Mighty Wind. That's one of
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: those ones, not a sponsor, but And not a ringing endorsement.
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: I can't endorse everything in the movie. But I just
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: like the idea that you make a universe of characters
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: and bands that did not exist. You have to write
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: their backstory. You have to write a music catalog for
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: that group. So you have to be real musicians to
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: do it. And these songs never existed, but they have
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: to fit in popular culture in this time frame that
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: they supposedly existed. And so I like that so much
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: that they take all that care And that's why I
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: love that. And actually, one of those songs was nominated
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: for Best Original Song at the Oscars that year. It's
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: a song called Kiss at the End of the Rainbow
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: that they wrote for Mitch and Mickey, who are this
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: folk duo that's like the star-crossed lovers.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: You know, the male and female duo. And then, so
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: they wrote this Kiss at the End of the Rainbow song.
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: And Michael McKeon and then Ned O'Toole, his wife, they
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: wrote that song. And it was nominated for Best Song
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: at the Oscars that year. And it's a made up
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: song for a made up group. I think that's so great.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: What a cool.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: Isn't that kind of how the monkeys were, though?
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: They were cast as like a they watch these people
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: watch Hard Day's Night. And they were like, we got
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: to get in on this because the Beatles were such
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: a phenomenon. And so they literally just like put out
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: a casting call and spread this whole net and like
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: found these good looking guys.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: And talented guys.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And then they just became a thing. But they
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: were basically trying to be a TV version of the Beatles.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: That's what gets me, is how people were okay with
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: the idea. It's like it wasn't hacky. Or maybe they
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: thought it was hacky.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: No, no. People were... Yeah, people really... They had a
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: lot of strikes against them going out of the box.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: It's just they kind of won over a lot of
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: other people.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: Well, and that's probably... You just outlast your critics. I'm
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: a little kid back then, right?
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: So I don't know what's happening.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: No, no.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: This was, yeah, this would have been, we probably saw
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: it in syndication.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Right. We're seeing a syndication and you think, yeah, so
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: you don't know that this has been, someone's been very.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Critical of this, right? All you know is the gags
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: and the.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: I think there's something to be said for a kind
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: of just outlasting your critics. If you go make something,
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: even if it started in one thing, like eventually they
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: did write some great songs. So it's not, not a
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: matter of like, they weren't, you.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Can't, you can't listen. You can't deny a great song.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Great songs, a great song. Like Johnny achy, break your heart.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: Listen, it outlasted.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: It's, I actually didn't like it when.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: It came out. It's coming back in a big way.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: I can't, I can't do it.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: It's around here, bro.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: I see boys in Sadie's generation.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: I think you're a little jealous. Cause you, I mean,
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: you could have a moment.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: I could do a mullet still.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: The skullet. That's what that's called. Wow. You have no,
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: you have nothing on top and you've got the.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: What would happen if I went and got treatments and
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: had my hair back at this point after now being
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: bald for like five years?
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: I don't know. People do it in Hollywood. I mean,
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: Jeremy Piven, there's a few people that have done it
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: and they just go, look. Theo Vaughn, who's a pretty
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: famous comedian, he talks about having hair transplant. I don't
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: think I could do transplant, but I could do some
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: of those treatments. Although when I hear the radio thing,
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: it's like, all i have to do it's every day
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: right you can't stop.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Drive during my lunch break to another location for 45
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: minutes like what i'm not yeah i'd rather i thought
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: that was transplants by the way i was in the
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: dentist today and i almost said your joke almost because
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: she she's like i've seen she's like okay your daughter
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: plays volleyball right it's like yeah she's like i saw
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: you some i saw a picture of you somewhere on
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: something you know.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: And of course i was like well Pretty big deal.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: I'm all over the place. I was like, I don't know.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: I was like, I do, you know, I'm a pastor
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: and I, I, I, you know, right. And he might've
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: seen a book.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: So there are probably podcasts though on a, something podcast
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: related on, on lines where we post the most right now. But,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: but as she was flossing me, I've wanted to say,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: you know, my buddy says he would not like, if
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: it added five years to his life, he still would
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: not floss. Cause I'm not going to do it at
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: this point. Yeah.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: Cause you have to spend that five years flossing. Right.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: You're not going to do it.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah. You just added five more years of flossing to
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: my life.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Johnny, I think it's about that time. Oh, is it?
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Speaking of pearls of wisdom.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: It's my one segment.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Let me call it They Talked About That.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: Let's make it count. I'm pretty good about that one.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: I just needed to open my mouth more.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: All these years as a singer, that's all. We could
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: have had a deal. Well, let's make a deal.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: James Thurber, born 1894, died 1961, American cartoonist, writer, humorist, journalist,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: and playwright. Best known for cartoons and short stories. He said,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: love is what you've been through with somebody.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: Love is what you've been through with somebody. And I
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: was thinking about that. I actually read a quote this morning,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: but if I keep quoting C.S. Lewis and Dallas Willard
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: and G.K. Chesterton every week, you know what I'm saying?
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: But It was talking about the balance. It was the
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: balances between, it was Alice Willard, the pleasure and pains
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: of life. And if you took one away, life would
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: cease to exist as we know it. But the idea
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: of love being what you feel for somebody versus love
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: being what you've been through with somebody. And of course,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: that's the language of the loyalist, right?
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: I can remember... And you and I were in the
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: band at this point. In fact, I had orange hair.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: At the time. Not on purpose.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: No, you're trying to go blonde.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Well, I did go blonde.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Laura, I think.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Oh, and then you tried to get it to go back.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: And we wanted to go back and go Auburn. Like
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: back to brown Auburn. But instead it turned into like
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: real Auburn.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Like the orange Auburn.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: Like Auburn Tigers.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: And then we're like, you can't, right. You can't do
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: anything else to it for a while. Your hair's going
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: to fall out. So I just had orange hair on
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: UT campus.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: Do you think that's why your hair fell out? Oh, no.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: 10 years later?
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: I don't think so. But I remember I got the
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: phone call.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: If you guys have never heard the story, when Laura
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: was in nursing school, my wife, we were just engaged.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: And we kind of had a running joke that everything
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: that she would study, if you really pay attention to
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: it long enough, you have like, of the 10 symptoms,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: you probably have three or four right now. Every nursing
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: school student becomes a hypochondriac. It's like, oh my gosh,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: I actually, my back hurts like that, you know, whatever.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: And so she called me one day. She goes, John,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I think I've had a brain aneurysm. And of course,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: I have no idea what a brain aneurysm is.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: I'm 19 or whatever. I'm like, no, you don't. That
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: sounds really, I've heard it.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: It sounds really bad. You've got a headache.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: Don't do it.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: And so it turns out, long story short, she was right.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: And they rushed her to the hospital.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: And the bleeding on her brain was so bad that
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: the scans in her room showed when the doctor came in,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: he thought it was a dead person.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: It was all white.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: There was someone that.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Died and they left these scans in here and it
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: was hers. And he was like, how are you talking
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: and walking? And she's had the worst headache of her life. And, um,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: I got in my car in Knoxville and did 110.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: I made it from Knoxville to Nashville in an hour
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: and a half, which is normally a two and a
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: half to three hour drive and got there.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Not knowing she's going to be alive or dead.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: This is before I had a cell phone, but not,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: it's not like you're texting or something, you know what
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: I'm saying? Like you don't really know, you know, you
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: don't want to be texting and driving 110 anyway, Johnny,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now. But all that being said,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: we went through a whole journey.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: It was just miraculous. Um, the stories I could tell,
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: she had three brain surgeries. They were non-invasive.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: It was a new technique going through the arteries. Uh,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: to this day, she has platinum in her brain. Um,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: that basically, yeah, basically plugged up her aneurysm. Uh, and
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: it was caused by an AVM, which is an arteriovenous malformation,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: which is a, A thing you get when you're born,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: or you have it when you're born, and it doesn't
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: usually show up to the decade of life.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: And usually when you die, that's when.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: It shows up. Yeah, that's when they realize you had it. Right.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: You finally have an aneurysm and it kills you.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: And so through that journey, when she came out, she
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: had radiation, the whole deal. When she came out of that,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: we weren't married yet, but we had been through something.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: And I will never forget this. And I'm telling you
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: as a dad, this breaks my heart still. My father-in-law
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: is one of my favorite people in the world.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: We've become... I think much closer over the years. He's
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: just great.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: And she woke up from her first surgery and asked
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: for me. And he said, I guess there's.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Another man in her life now. And I didn't really
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: put it together then. I was just happy to be
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: the man. And now I would punch a dude. You
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying? Like as a dad.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: Sadie comes out of brain surgery and asks for some guy,
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: you'd be like, I will destroy him.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And like, again, she's on his insurance. I mean,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: you get into all that stuff, but he didn't do
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: that to me.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: But I'm just like, oh my gosh, all the things
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: now I would, I mean, I would just clock a dude. Um,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: but I, I think about after that, before we ever
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: got married, we felt like we were married because we've
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: been through something. And I think it advanced our relationship
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: and marriage by like five years.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: When we got married, it was like, when you face mortality,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: I think James Thurber's right. Like, and even Laura to
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: this day, sometimes we'll say, cause there was a moment she,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: it was the weirdest thing. She, I handed her a
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: card to read and Laura's a speed reader and she
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: couldn't read it. She sat there for like, for like
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: five minutes. And she was like, John, I can't read this.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: It's like, what do you mean you can't read it?
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: So if you hand her a pen, she could write,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: but she couldn't read. It was a very, um, if
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: you heard a dyslexia, it was a very like specific
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: kind of Lexia.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: That's very rare.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: And, for a moment that we didn't know if she'd
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: ever be able to ever like read again, because that's.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Her career, right?
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, you can't be a nurse and can't, you know,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: like if she could ever like interpret words on paper
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: and there was a chance she wouldn't be able to,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: a moment she couldn't talk before one of her surgeries,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: she had, she had a seizure and she was just
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: saying random words, like just random, she doesn't have any
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: recollection of it. And she, I didn't think, I don't
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: think I thought of it like this back then, but
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: she'll say to me sometimes, you realize like you were
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: staying with me not knowing if I would be like,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: you know, there or not.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: And I remember that not being like a question. I'm
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: a loyalist, right?
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: That's how God made me. But man, that jumps the
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: commitment level way.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Way up, you know.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: And I just think about everybody's listening. I think we
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: all try to get around going through things. And I
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: think that's okay. Like I do, I pray, we talked
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: about before, I pray that God will take us around
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: as much trouble as possible. But I know there's going
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: to be some that he takes us through And I
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: think that love, there's a kind of love that you
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: just can't know until you've been through something with somebody.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true. We avoid things, but when you look
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: back on your life, the stories that you tell, it's
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: never like, and then we went to Cancun for two weeks.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: It's when the rainstorm caused your flight to be delayed.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? You tell those things of like,
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: whenever you get comedians in a room, The stories we tell.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Are– When you bombed.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: And I bombed so bad. And then I found out
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: later that no one there spoke English or whatever. Right.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: Those are the ones that we wanted to hear. And
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: those are the things that, like, if you're on tour
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: with somebody, those are the things that– I remember I'd
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: do these shows with Tim Hawkins. And I would get
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: back and you'd go, where'd you go? Where were you
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: this weekend? And I almost could not remember because they
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: felt like the same show. Yeah. They were all great. Yeah.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: But like if you ask me what happened in Tupelo
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: when you were by yourself and it was 40 people
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: and it was a lock in and you should have
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: said no to it, but you did it. I can
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: remember that story.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Complete recollection.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: And and also I think about my relationship with Curry
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: and the fact that she's like I tell stories on
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: the stage now in my new hour about her staying
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: with me in the early days of my career when
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: we did not know. I gave up health insurance for
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: 18 months. Yeah.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: I left this job at the church to go pursue
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: this dream. And then she lost her job.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: And we were, you know, she was, she was on
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: unemployment and then she got denied unemployment. So we're like,
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: just do we give up on my dream? Do I
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: go get a regular job now because I have no health?
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Like all those decisions, like now you're on the other
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: side of it and that's the gold because you realize
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: that person's been through it. You know, you can trust
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: your level of trust for them goes up through the
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: roof because they've seen everything. Wow.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I was thinking about that when I was, I was
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: talking to Jesus about some difficult things this week and
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: I was like, I don't, I don't know why we're
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: in some of this stuff.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know what you're going to do. I don't
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: know what I'm supposed to do. But I was like,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: I asked him, I was like, what? I tried to
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: remember what have I learned in the past? What have
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: I learned in the past from difficult moments that I
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: didn't know? Cause you forget, right? But you get to
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: access that thing you've been through. And what I remembered was,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: I have a chance right now before there's any resolution
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: to this particular problem to go ahead right now and
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: tell you that I trust you. Yeah. Um, so I
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: don't know what you're going to do. You may let
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: this go bad. I just want you to know that
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: I trust you. I trust that you hear me. I
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: trust that you're not ignoring me. I'm not abandoned. And
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: there's a thing Reggie and I are going to write
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: soon a book on hope.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: And so it's what we're working on now a little bit,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: just in the prep stage.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: And, um, one of the things I've been really thinking
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: about hope, there's a scripture that says that hope does
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: not disappoint because the love of God has been poured
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: out on our hearts. And I've always been like that,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: that the two things for some reason never connected to me.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: It's like, that's too, like, I don't know. It sounds
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: like platitude.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Hope does not disappoint because God's love is important in
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: our hearts. Well, I was like, well, when I get
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: really disappointed, what good does that do?
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: Kind of thing.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? When the hopes are dashed
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: or whatever.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: And it sort of hit me the other day when God's,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: if God loves you, the reason hope doesn't disappoint is,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: is no matter what you're facing, you know, if you're loved,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: you're not abandoned. If you're love loved, you're not ignored.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: If you're loved, you're not suddenly an enemy. yeah so
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: all the things in hopelessness that you that the lies
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: and the messaging that comes to your soul that's why
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: hope does not disappoint not because the outcome does not
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: disappoint but because the love reminds you of something that
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: refutes the lies that brings the hopelessness.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: So yeah, man, love is what you've been through with somebody, Joni.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: I was quoting Reggie the other day to a friend who, uh,
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: I was, cause he was talking about, I do, I
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: did a marriage cruise with him and he was talking
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: about like, it's the number one thing they get back
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: on the comment cards that they want more of. Like,
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: and I was like, I think it's because you go
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: through these storms as a couple together and life is
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: so serious and it takes your laughter away a little
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: bit if you let it. And so when they get
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: in a comedy show together and then look across and
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: they're both laughing at the same thing, it's like you,
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: it humanizes you in this instant. You feel this unity
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: with a crowd and there's this release that happens. That's
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: so powerful. And I was quoting Reggie to him. I
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: was saying like, I used to these shows with this
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: guy named Reggie Dabbs and he remembered Reggie. He knew
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: of Reggie. And I said, Reggie used to say he
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: uses humor with kids because if he can get a
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: crowd laughing, it means they still have hope. Yeah. It's
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: so powerful. Yeah. Like that's so real. Like, You're not
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: all the way gone.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: If you're laughing.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: If you're still laughing.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody laughs whenever they have nothing to hope for.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Interesting.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's good stuff. John, it's a good segue
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: to my segment. Johnny's Old Jokes. We call it Joke
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: About That. John, what do you call a Frenchman in sandals?
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Help me.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Philippe, fill up.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: I was not going to get there.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: That's a dumb one. One time, this is just a
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: story that I read on Reddit, and it's evidently a
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: true story because it said, I don't have a joke,
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: because there's a whole Reddit thread that I pull some
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: of these from about street jokes. But this one just said,
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: this is not a street joke, but this is a
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: true story. One time, me and my dad and his
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: employee were just standing outside. A bird pooped on my
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: dad's head, and his employee started to run off, and
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: my dad's like, where are you going? And he said,
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: to get some toilet paper. My dad says, why? It
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: will just fly away before you get back. Ha! That's great.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: Sometimes truth is stranger than... That's great. The toilet paper
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: was for him, John. No, it wasn't.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: He wasn't going to go wipe the bird.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: Not for the bird.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: John, you've probably heard this one. We used to... Because
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: I think our buddy, bass player Brian Finley, used to
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: tell this joke. But when I saw it on this thread,
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: I was like, I have to tell. I've never told
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: it on the show. Mozart died a long time ago
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: and was buried in a local cemetery. The groundskeeper was
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: doing his job and all of a sudden heard something odd.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: In a panic, he ran to the Pope. I don't
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: know why the Pope's involved in this version of the story.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: He ran to the Pope and yelled, Pope, Pope. I
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: don't know if that's what you would say. I think
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: he would say whatever. I don't know. Come with me.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: There's something you have to hear. Two of them run
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: back to the cemetery. They heard Mozart's Fifth Symphony. Then
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: they looked at each other, puzzled, but they stayed listening.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: And then they heard the Fourth Symphony, then the Third Symphony,
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: and the second. Then the second played, and all of
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: a sudden it dawned on the Pope, and he just
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: looked at the groundskeeper and said, Son, you do not
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: need to worry. Mozart is just decomposing.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Come on, guys.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: Finally, John, I was on a date last night and
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: they asked what superpower I'd want. So I told them hindsight.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: They said, why would you want that? It wouldn't help anyone.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: I said, yeah, I can see that now. John, let's
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: do this week in history. We call it Talk About Then. Yeah,
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: I can see that now. That's a superpower. John, the U.S.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: mail truck was a contract. That was awarded this week
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: in 1986. The mail truck as we know it, the
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: boxy toaster looking mail truck. I did not know this.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: The U.S. Postal Service awards Grumman, G-R-U-M-M-A-N, a $ 1. 1 billion
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: contract to produce 99,150 long life vehicles, LLVs. They were
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: about $ 11, 000 each at the time in 1986 money. with
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: an option to order an additional 54,000 units. The U.S.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: Postal Service provided a specification, and three companies vied for
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: the contract by creating prototypes, with Grumman's being the winning entry.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: The Grumman LLV was the first vehicle specifically designed for
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: the U.S. Postal Service. From 1987 to 1994, the USPS
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: purchased more than 100,000 of these vehicles. The specified lifespan
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: was 24 years, and they can last over 200,000 miles
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: on their original engine, so they're a long-life vehicle. The
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: gas mileage was terrible. It says it was a combined
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: EPA of 17 miles per gallon. And in highway and
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: city driving, the average 8 to 10 miles per gallon.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Which, I mean, stop and go, stop and go.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. That's what you're going to get.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: You get about 10 miles per gallon. In 2021, the
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: USPS awarded the Oshkosh Defense, awarded Oshkosh Defense a contract
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: to produce 160,000 delivery vans to replace the L. So
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: some of these delivery vans are slowly replacing. Yeah. I
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: don't know. It used to be a Jeep. Yeah, and
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: then it became these big, boxier, taller. Back in the day, yeah.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: I guess it's more spacious, these other things.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: I wonder if Jeep had the contracts before that.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: Was it literally a Jeep vehicle?
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe so.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: Okay, could be.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: You ever see the movie The Postman?
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: Ken Costner?
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, post-apocalyptic.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: No.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: No.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: That's one of those when he was in his era
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: of like, everything's going to be three and a half
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: hours long, and star me.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: It's all post-apocalyptic.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. Waterworld. Waterworld kind of got beat up, and
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: it was actually a decent film. Yeah. But it was
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: just because it was the most expensive movie ever made.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: That's why they really beat it up. It was $ 200 million,
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: which now $ 200 million wouldn't make you a Netflix movie.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: No. Everything. I mean, that's back when that was a
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: lot of money.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: We spent that on the podcast. Yeah. John, this week, 1983,
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: magician David Copperfield made the Statue of Liberty. Liberty? Liberty
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: disappear on his TV special, The Magic of David Copperfield 5.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: Copperfield said he wanted to perform this illusion. I didn't
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: know this part. I remember this as a kid. Because
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: I think it's some kind.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Of weird black cloak that came down and covered the.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Right, I remember that.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: It was a trick. It was like a video trick.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: But he wanted to do the illusion because his mother
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: was an immigrant. She impressed upon me how precious our
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: liberty is and how easily it can be lost. Then
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: one day it occurred to me I could show with
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: magic how we take our freedom for granted. Sometimes we
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: don't realize how important something is until it's gone and
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: has a black curtain draped in front of it and
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: camera tricks are used to.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Were the people present?
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: I don't know how he did it, but it was basically,
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, he didn't really make the magic alert.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Not to be, I don't want to tip my hand.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: But magic's not real. He's a witch. John, born this week, 1908,
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: John Graham Jr. He was an American architect. In the
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: late 1940s, he designed what became the Modern Shopping Center.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: He also designed the Space Needle for the 1962 Seattle
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: World's Fair, which is a very You've seen that. We
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: have the Gatlinburg Space Needle probably modeled after that Space Needle.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: Just as important. And the first revolving restaurant in Honolulu.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: Have you ever been in a revolving restaurant? I have.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: What do you think of that? How do you feel?
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: First of all, you feel like, hey, this is a
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: $ 100 steak just because this restaurant turns.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: I like it.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: I went to one in Chicago. I'm on a junior
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: class trip. And I remember we ate up there. That
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: was a big deal.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: I feel like that there was one in Seattle that
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: I ate at.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Because I remember this. I had my first lamb burger.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: I was in college. I remember Sikkim, Student Institute of
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: Campus Ministry.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: Sikkim. That's awful. It's so funny. They reduced the Great
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: Commission to Sikkim.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: It was actually a really great time.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: Going to all the world and Sikkim.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: I spent two weeks up there. It was life changing.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: I remember you coming back and you had a lot
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: to say. You were very fired up.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Well, I came back and I had broke up with
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: my long-term girlfriend.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: That was the girlfriend before I met Laura. And that
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: was the big thing.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: That I did that. And you were happy I did that.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: I mean. She was great. Yeah.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: I think her life would have been miserable being with
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: me in the life I've had.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Sick them. Yeah. What's wrong with you? All right, John. Finally,
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: born this week, 1918, Betty Ford. She was an American
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: First Lady to Gerald Ford, the 38th U.S. President. founder
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: of the Betty Ford Clinic in 1982, shortly after becoming
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: First Lady, she underwent a mastectomy for breast cancer. Ford,
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: deciding to be open about her illness, which was really
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: different for the time, and her openness raised awareness of
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: breast cancer, resulting in more women self-examining, which led to
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: an increase in reported cases of breast cancer, a phenomenon
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: known as the Betty Ford blip. Did you know about this?
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: Because she was like, I found this breast cancer and
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: I had a mastectomy. You need to. So it was
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: so important, her outspokenness. And so people started catching breast
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: cancer a lot sooner. This is something that the reason
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: it makes the list. After Gerald Ford's loss of the
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: 1976 presidential election to Jimmy Carter, First Lady Betty Ford
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: put her dance lessons to use and danced on the
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: White House cabinet room table. And there's a photo that
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: I found of this. So there's actually a shot. And
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: it was hidden for a long time. And the thought was,
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: People are going to take this the wrong way, or
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: with her history of alcoholism, they're going to think it's
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: something that she'd lost her marvels. But I think it
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: was just she just thought, they can't fire us. We're
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: leaving tomorrow. It was the day before the new president
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: moves in, evidently. I think it's remarkable that she was
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: just like, let's have a little fun in this room.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: So she danced on the table. I think she was
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: ready to go home. She was like, hey, we're going home.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: Betty Ford's a national treasure.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: She was an icon. In fact, we need to get
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: our friend Allison– back on the podcast.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: That would be good. She knows a lot about this probably.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: She knows a lot about Betty Ford.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: Do you think you could dance on this table? I
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: don't know if I would hold. Probably not. This is
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: some Ikea nonsense right here.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Well, we could lower it because it raises and lowers
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: to the lowest possible place if I fall.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Johnny, here's the thing.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: When you fall, just don't be too far from the ground.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying with that though? Uh-huh.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Some of y'all stay grounded.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: Some of y'all.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: So if you fall, yeah, okay.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah. But anyway, Betty Ford, I agree with you, a
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: national treasure. And I didn't know that about the breast
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: cancer awareness and stuff. It took a lot of boldness. Well, yeah.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: No one was doing that then. As long as there's
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: commercials about that and things.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: Interesting. Good stuff.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: That's all I have for this week.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, guys. We were waiting with bated breath.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: I know. Oh, I did have one more. I forgot.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: I forgot one. Milk bottles. April 8th. 1879, John, the
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: first milk sold in glass bottles in the U.S., Echo
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: Farms Dairy of New York. And this is the reason
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: it makes the list. Because you didn't grow up around
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: where the milkman and all that, right? We didn't grow
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: up in that era. But prior to selling milk in
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: glass bottles, the milkmen would just sell milk in bulk
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: with the customer providing the containers.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: What did they bring it in?
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: See? You'd have to give them something.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Bring it back to me tomorrow in
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: this pot or whatever. They just took it to the farm.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: And they get the raw milk and bring it to
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: you and you just go, all right. So you provide
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: the tub or the lid or the whatever.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Interesting.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: So then eventually they're like, we should probably just get
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: our own bottle so it's more controlled.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Somebody got a big contract doing this.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: I guess. Yeah. I just thought of the, it's gross.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: I don't know. As long as.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: It's your own container and it's coming back to you.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: If everyone was just sharing containers, that'd be gross.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: You're just leaving these containers with people not knowing what's happening.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: Not knowing what they're going to do. Yeah. Interesting.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: Everybody wants to go back. We have this weird revisionist
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: history about things, and nostalgia is a very powerful drug.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: But it's interesting to me that people always want to
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: go back, but nobody ever is like, I wish we
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: got our milk in bottles again. We had to wait
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: for the milkman. Do you think people want that?
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: There's a little bit of a movement towards raw.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: Milk right now. Well, I know Amazon brings our things. Yeah,
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: there is definitely that. Raw milk and non-pasteurized.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we like the past, but we want
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: our modern comforts for sure.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're picking and choosing. We were talking about that
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: with Saturday Night Live because we're watching A Mighty Wind.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: And people really like... Because it's been a show for
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: 50 years. Everybody looks back on it with these weird
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: rose-colored glasses. The era that they were in high school,
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: that was the best cast. But you're also... We were
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: watching it in reruns, and they took out all the
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: bad sketches. Yeah. And you're remembering also the greatest hits.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: So you're remembering Chris Farley falling through the table, but
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: you're remembering the greatest hits of Chris Farley from those
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: DVDs that we had when we were kids. Of all
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: the things he did, you're getting the funniest thing. Yeah,
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: and so I think we do that with everything. We
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: do that with history. We do it with our childhoods.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: We curate it to the thing that we want the most.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we have a very curated existence now. And now
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: we curate it down to the, like, if you disagree
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: with me, I'll block you.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: And that's what I like about this podcast because you
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: do get us exactly as we are.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: This is raw milk.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: This is raw, unpasteurized in a tub that you gave us.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: And we brought it back to you. And we go, here, sorry,
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: the lid's on crooked, but we don't know.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: We don't know what happened to it.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: Please, you're going to want to use this. Use Best Buy.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: We lost sight of it for a long time in
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: the middle of it.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: We don't know what's going on.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: It really is rare that we edit something out. It's occasional.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: Like, sometimes Johnny would just go off, guys. You wouldn't
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: believe it.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: On just, I mean, a completely insulting rant about something.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, dude, we can't do the new calm.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Get off the table. You know what I'm saying?
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: My Betty Ford moment.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Hey, by the way, everybody should watch West Wing again
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: if you haven't.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: We've been doing this. We've been saying this for three episodes.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: But did I tell you about the episode?
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: Because they interviewed Gerald Ford.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: Yes, of course. Not Betty Ford, though.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: No, they didn't.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: John, where would they find out more about our show?
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: Go to Gerald Ford. You got to talkaboutthatpodcast.com. There's over
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: 350 archived episodes for you. Click on the upper right-hand
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: link if you want to get ad-free content, shows without commercials.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: If you want to write us a note, go to hello.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Just start an email.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: Hello. In the field where you would write the two.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Hello.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: At talkaboutthatpodcast.com.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: In the field.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: And then the subject you write, best podcast ever. Oh, yeah.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: And then say whatever you want. Yeah. Leave us a review, though.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: That helps other people find the show.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: It does.
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: Five stars if you feel so inclined.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of new people listening to the show
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: right now. We love to hear from them.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: There are, and that's great. And thanks for going back
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: and listening to the older episodes, too, and seeing us
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: kind of fumble our way through this journey.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: Johnny, we're all evolving. You know what I'm saying? We're
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: becoming something different. You never stop becoming.
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: Isn't that something?
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: We're still moving ever closer to greatness. Yeah. Fumbling towards it.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: Fumbling, stumbling, bumbling.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: You should check out Johnny W-J-O-N-N-I-E-W.com for new tour dates.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: He's all over the country, people. Go join him.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: If you live in Nashville, your middle Tennessee area, or
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: you want to drive, you're thinking about, hey, let's take
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: a trip to Nashville. April 24th, I'm doing a co-headlining
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: show with my buddy Steve Rogers. Steve opens for Brian Regan,
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: Tom Papa, and Nate Borgazzi on the road. Yeah. It's
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: one of their main openers. So it's going to be
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: a great show. And we're doing co-headlining sets on that show.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: We just added Paula Kuczynski, who's kind of a rising star.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: She's actually doing The Ryman tonight as a part of
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: a showcase. So that's kind of a big moment for her.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: Excited for Paula. But she's great. It's going to be
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: a great show. April 24th, that's at a theater called
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: The Mockingbird. It's by The Factory in Franklin. So it's
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: a cool, hip theater. And tickets remain. But limited, John.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: Limited to how many we can sell.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: Mockingbird is where our buddy Caleb Edwards did his show.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: He does. It's a great room. It's a great room.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: What you would call in Nashville, you call it a
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: listening room. It's a great room to see and be seen.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Check it out, guys. Buy those tickets, man. Come
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: be a part of it. It's exciting.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: And thanks to all of you who've sent us messages
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: and reviews and just good thoughts. We get a lot
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: of good thoughts from you guys.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: It means a lot. And John, I think we should
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: do it again. What do you think?
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: I think we should.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: Let's do it again next week here on Talk About That.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Talk About That.