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Huddle Up | Could Final Stretch Reveal Exciting Glimpses of the Jags' Future? · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Huddle Up, brought to you by the Fields
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  Speaker 1: Total Group, Jaguars Senior writer John Oser, NFL Network analyst
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  Speaker 1: and former Jaguar Bucky Brooks, and Senior reporter JP Shatdrick
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  Speaker 1: bringing you the latest on your Jacksonville Jaguars.
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  Speaker 2: Huddle Up starts right now. Welcome in. It is Wednesday,
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  Speaker 2: December eighteenth. That's Huddle Up without Bucky Brooks today, JP Shadwick,
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  Speaker 2: John Oser is brought to you by Field's Auto Group,
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  Speaker 2: to Fieldsauto dot com. We'll have our last look at
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  Speaker 2: the Jets Jaguars game, the lone assignments at the end,
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  Speaker 2: the first look of the Jaguars Raiders matchup this week
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  Speaker 2: in Las Vegas, and Jaguars Youth getting experienced down the
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  Speaker 2: stretch with three games to go down in the twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty four regular season. Bucky Brooks in travel Hell today.
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  Speaker 2: O sure is here with me though in the Hundai studios.
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  Speaker 2: Good afternoon, John.
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  Speaker 3: The albatross has been lifted in the neck.
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  Speaker 2: Really, this is do This is when the show twins up.
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  Speaker 3: It's like when you lose thirty pounds. And you go
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  Speaker 3: out there and you're just ready. This is I have
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  Speaker 3: been wait for this.
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  Speaker 2: Well, this is your time to shine hard, time to
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  Speaker 2: shine on Bucky's show. Well, let's talk a little ball.
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  Speaker 2: We're kind of dealing with the aftermath still of the
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  Speaker 2: Jets Jaguars game thirty two to twenty five. We know
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  Speaker 2: all the blown coverage at the end. The offense showed
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  Speaker 2: early life, they ran the ball better, Ryan Thomas Junior,
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  Speaker 2: Brenton Strange playing well. But as the season really has unfolded,
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  Speaker 2: the storyline has been the defense and their inability and
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  Speaker 2: actually sometimes the offense. Key moments late in games have
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  Speaker 2: been really the storyline of this team, offense and defense.
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  Speaker 2: This week it was the defense. Blown coverage has missed,
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  Speaker 2: assignment's mental errors, and Devontae Adams put us up an
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  Speaker 2: all time quarter against this team.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's still open. You know it's it was, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: Devanta Adam. Things. We've seen unbelievable stuff happening against this team.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to say it's the most unbelievable, but
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  Speaker 3: it was up there. And you sort of get tired
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  Speaker 3: after a while of when you're writing and analyzing a game,
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  Speaker 3: which we all have to do after games of saying, well,
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  Speaker 3: this symbolizes the season because this was this But it
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  Speaker 3: was the same sort of loss they've had many many times.
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  Speaker 3: The difference was they played well offensively, which they haven't
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  Speaker 3: done enough this year, but the defense gave up huge,
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  Speaker 3: break breakdown plays at the end of the game. This
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  Speaker 3: one where you know it it's you almost have to
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  Speaker 3: try to have a guy that wide. Ope, it's you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's almost impressive in that sense. And then turn around
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  Speaker 3: and as well as mac Jones played at the end
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  Speaker 3: of the game, given a chance to get back in it, uh,
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  Speaker 3: the offense couldn't make the play late, which again is
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  Speaker 3: big plays offensively, I mean big plays defensively explosive. That's
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  Speaker 3: if your bullet pointing the season. Yes, it's big plays
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  Speaker 3: giving up defensively and not making big plays at the
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  Speaker 3: end of games. So does it symbolize the season? Probably
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  Speaker 3: no more than seven or eight of the game.
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  Speaker 2: There's like six, seven, eight other ones that we could point.
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  Speaker 3: To it, so it's almost not a microcosm. It's just
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  Speaker 3: what it is.
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  Speaker 2: That's what they are.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that was my hot team. You know, we
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  Speaker 3: have hot takes on Jags. Am Okay and that was
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  Speaker 3: the only hot take I could think of. Is this
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  Speaker 3: is you know, you've been saying it all year. You
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  Speaker 3: have to read my ozone every day. This is what
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  Speaker 3: this team is. It's not a very good team. It
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  Speaker 3: gives up a lot of big plays, as a lot
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  Speaker 3: of as too many mental breakdowns for whatever reason. And
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  Speaker 3: people were in the press box were they were sort
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  Speaker 3: of trying to figure it out, and I said, guys,
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  Speaker 3: are that Yeah, I wish this wasn't true. They're not
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  Speaker 3: good and bad teams figure out a way to lose
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  Speaker 3: games like that, and that's what they are. And I
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  Speaker 3: would love it if they weren't, but it's what they are.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get to the at least some of the positives
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  Speaker 2: on the Jags offense last week, which there were a
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  Speaker 2: lot of. There were some yes, and Mac Jones looked
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  Speaker 2: a little more in command than he had before through
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  Speaker 2: his first two touchdowns in a starting role with the Jaguars.
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  Speaker 2: Travis Etn and Tank Biggsby both ran pretty effectively in
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  Speaker 2: the game. Etn was involved in the passing game too.
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  Speaker 2: Brian Thomas Junior, of course, just continues that the star
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  Speaker 2: continues to rise for him. He's closed again on a
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  Speaker 2: thousand yards this season, two touchdown receptions, and then Brenton Strange,
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  Speaker 2: it's been a bit of a stray season for him
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  Speaker 2: in the lineup, out of the lineup. Some one game
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  Speaker 2: he had only nine snaps, and now all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 2: with Evan Ingram out and done for the year, he's
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  Speaker 2: getting fed the football a lot, and that's a good sign,
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  Speaker 2: especially the young guy Strange, second year player Thomas obviously
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  Speaker 2: a rookie, getting that experience, getting more time on task
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  Speaker 2: is never a bad thing.
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  Speaker 3: It's a huge sign. I thought they did a nice
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  Speaker 3: job JP on Sunday of you know, I don't know
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  Speaker 3: that I would call their performance overall offensively incredibly consistent
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  Speaker 3: for the whole game, but I think early on they
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  Speaker 3: did a lot of the screen, a lot of the
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  Speaker 3: short stuff. I thought they did a nice job of
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  Speaker 3: going away from tendencies. We hadn't really seen that out
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  Speaker 3: of them, and in this league you can have some
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  Speaker 3: success for the short term going against tendency. It looked
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  Speaker 3: like the Jets sort of figured him out a little
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  Speaker 3: bit in the second half. But with this offense, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know that you're going to get six or seven
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  Speaker 3: long drives in a game, but they got a few,
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  Speaker 3: and they took advantage of two of them and got
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  Speaker 3: the ball in the end zone and had twenty two points,
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  Speaker 3: which I think most people would have thought that was
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  Speaker 3: the number they needed to get to give them to
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  Speaker 3: give themselves a chance, and they did so. I thought
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  Speaker 3: an impressive job from mac Jones of in the moments
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  Speaker 3: where they had a chance to score, they scored, which
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  Speaker 3: is probably about as much as you can ask at
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  Speaker 3: this offense considering the personnel right now, twenty two to
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  Speaker 3: twenty five points is probably about as max as you're
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  Speaker 3: going to get. The other part of that I thought
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  Speaker 3: was Yd mac jones put the ball in the air
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  Speaker 3: forty six times.
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  Speaker 2: Its a lot.
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  Speaker 3: It's a lot considering his history here so far. If
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  Speaker 3: he throws forty six times, they're probably gonna get a
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  Speaker 3: couple of picks off that. I mean, that's probably too
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  Speaker 3: many for him to throw and expect there not to
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  Speaker 3: be a mistake or two considering I don't know that
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  Speaker 3: he is able to push the ball down field like
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  Speaker 3: Trevor could in terms of arm strength, and I'm not
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  Speaker 3: not to criticize him. I think that's what we've seen
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  Speaker 3: from him long winded way of getting to Breton Strange
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  Speaker 3: and Brian Thomas Junior and Tank Bigsby really significant because
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  Speaker 3: no matter what the organization looks like, Doug Trent, whoever's
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  Speaker 3: making decisions, you don't have to go out short term
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  Speaker 3: and address those spots. You've got a wr one, you've
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  Speaker 3: got a running back who you like, two running backs
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  Speaker 3: who can play, and Breton Strange is making an argument
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  Speaker 3: for being sort of the guys that position. Yes, and
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  Speaker 3: so I think you're finding some stuff that's really important.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, we've been talking all season long, John
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  Speaker 2: fast starts or lack thereof. On offense. Yeah, they scored
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  Speaker 2: a first drive touchdown first time since the Obama administration.
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  Speaker 3: Almost Yeah, pretty close, and only the third first quarter
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  Speaker 3: touchdown yea, which when you're having to play uphill, which
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  Speaker 3: is what they've had to do all season. I remember
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  Speaker 3: even the Patriots victory is one of their three victories.
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  Speaker 3: They had to come from behind, and against Tennessee they
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  Speaker 3: had to come from behind. It's a hard way to
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  Speaker 3: go and they've had to go that way. But a
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  Speaker 3: credit to him. The other day they got that first
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  Speaker 3: drive touchdown. It makes you breathe so much easier. At
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  Speaker 3: the end of the first half. You don't feel like
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  Speaker 3: you're going uphill. And I thought that was really big.
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  Speaker 3: And we'll see if they can keep doing it.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see and they'll try to do it this week
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  Speaker 2: in Las Vegas against the Raiders.
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  Speaker 3: Pro Bowl.
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  Speaker 2: big stars in Orlando this February. Go to Jaguars dot
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  Speaker 2: com Slash Pro Bowl or return with a look ahead
• 9:07
  Speaker 2: to the Jaguars Raiders matchup in week sixteen at Allegiance Stadium.
• 9:13
  Speaker 2: It's huddle up with Bucky Brooks.
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  Speaker 4: Great player, good young player. Just his ability to separate
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  Speaker 4: get opened obviously, you know, using him the right way
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  Speaker 4: and just making place born.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 4: And he's a he's a he's a dynamic title.
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  Speaker 2: He being rock powers of the Las Vegas Raiders. Welcome back.
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  Speaker 2: It's huddle up without Bucky Brooks, j P Shadrick, John Osier.
• 9:53
  Speaker 2: Bucky is in transit at the moment, had a delay
• 9:58
  Speaker 2: in Atlanta. Razor hand if that's happened to trouble I
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: don't know. I'm not at liberty to say. Maybe he'll explain, Well,
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  Speaker 2: he won't be next week because it's Christmas. We won't
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: have a show next week on Wednesday, So we'll hear
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  Speaker 2: from him in two weeks. I suppose are you're you're
• 10:14
  Speaker 2: not asking in Vegas New Year's Oh, maybe we won't
• 10:18
  Speaker 2: do it either. Is this the last show of the year,
• 10:21
  Speaker 2: then no, we'll have one after the at the end
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: of the.
• 10:25
  Speaker 3: Wow, I come up with something for January eighth, if
• 10:27
  Speaker 3: you want.
• 10:29
  Speaker 2: We're all I was old Joe fortunate. It says we're
• 10:32
  Speaker 2: off for two weeks. Wow.
• 10:34
  Speaker 3: If I can come up with some excuse for January eighth,
• 10:37
  Speaker 3: We're clear some new holiday, doing something else. Yeah, but
• 10:44
  Speaker 3: I'll see you, We'll see each other.
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: We're here, Yeah, we got other days of the week.
• 10:49
  Speaker 2: It's not just Wednesday every day. I mean, we've got
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: things to do here. We'll hear from Bucky though, on
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: this program at least in three weeks. Yes, I will
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: hear from him. Of course on Sunday, the Public's Tailgate
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: show with the pregame huddle up.
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  Speaker 3: Pre game huddling. We always it's short, but is it
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  Speaker 3: just as sweet it's kind of long.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, it's a little kidding. It's always a good
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  Speaker 2: segment leading in to each ball game on the Public's
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  Speaker 2: Tailgates show and the ball game this week against the
• 11:18
  Speaker 2: Las Vegas Raiders. They have the number one pick next
• 11:22
  Speaker 2: year in the draft as of right now. They fought
• 11:25
  Speaker 2: valiantly last week against the Falcons team that was just
• 11:28
  Speaker 2: struggling to find their way. You know, they've already changed
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: a quarterback since that game the other night on Monday,
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: the Falcons have. The Raiders have gone through a quarterback
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: carousel this year. There's question marks there moving ahead where
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: we see Carter Bradley, Cuss's son possibility who knows I mean?
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  Speaker 2: And Max Crosby, the best defensive player on that team.
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  Speaker 2: Really the heart and soul of that Raiders team is
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  Speaker 2: out for the rest of the year. So that's what
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  Speaker 2: you're walking into. But Brock Bowers, as Doug Peterson talked about,
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  Speaker 2: their dynamic player, he's leading all rookies in receiving yards
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  Speaker 2: this year in the NFL, and Brian Thomas Jr. Is
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  Speaker 2: right behind him just a few yards back.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you got the two best pass catchers, two best
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  Speaker 3: pass catching rookies. In the NFL in this game, So that's.
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  Speaker 2: Cool.
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  Speaker 3: I'll admit you watch more college football than I do, JP,
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  Speaker 3: but I kind of thought Rock Bauers might struggle in
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  Speaker 3: the NFL because I didn't know he was such a
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  Speaker 3: dominant physical force at Georgia and so much better athletically.
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  Speaker 3: It looked like the guys he was playing against that
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  Speaker 3: I thought, Hey, once he gets to the NFL against bigger, stronger,
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  Speaker 3: can he overpower like he did at Georgia. You watch him,
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  Speaker 3: I mean there were games where it was man against boys.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and obviously it's translating so far.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he's a really good player. I remember
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  Speaker 3: there were a lot of people who wondered if the
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  Speaker 3: Jags might take him at where were the Jags seventeen
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  Speaker 3: or eighteen? And it looked like he was gonna get
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  Speaker 3: taken right before the Jags, And I was saying, no,
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  Speaker 3: but he he's a good pick. No way he got
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  Speaker 3: him in the first round. And then, you know, I
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  Speaker 3: think both of these guys are showing how much the
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  Speaker 3: game has changed in the sense that eight nine years
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  Speaker 3: ago you sort of assumed that first round rookies were
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  Speaker 3: gonna come in and really struggle with the with the transition,
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  Speaker 3: I still think I mean meaning at those skill positions,
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  Speaker 3: that's right. I still think that's a factor. But clearly
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  Speaker 3: you're you're seeing now that guys can come in and
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  Speaker 3: make a huge impact early, and you know, thankfully for
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  Speaker 3: these are teams. Thankfully for this team, Brian Thomas Junior
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  Speaker 3: is doing it.
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  Speaker 2: Certainly, and that'd be nice to see him get over
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  Speaker 2: a thousand yards and should happen this week, it's just
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  Speaker 2: about thirty something yards away.
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  Speaker 3: Well, he's closing in JP on some numbers. Double digit touchdowns.
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  Speaker 3: I haven't looked up where they had rank all time,
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  Speaker 3: but double digit touchdowns for a rookie. And then if
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  Speaker 3: he if he gets what two or fifty yards heat
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  Speaker 3: and get to twelve hundred yards receiving, which is not
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  Speaker 3: out of the wrong possibility considering how they're using him now.
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  Speaker 3: Twelve hundred yards and quote to be probably seventy seven
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  Speaker 3: seventy eight receptions with ten touchdowns, that's a that's a
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  Speaker 3: big time rookie year. And as much as we talked
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  Speaker 3: about just a second ago about how rookies can come
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  Speaker 3: in and play well, it still doesn't mean that he
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  Speaker 3: will look back on this season, and so I didn't
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  Speaker 3: know what I was doing because there's so much to
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  Speaker 3: learn in terms of route running technique, in terms of
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  Speaker 3: reading what defenses are trying to do to you. So
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  Speaker 3: he's we've known since the beginning of the season how
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  Speaker 3: good he might end up being, but I think in
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  Speaker 3: a couple of years it's going to be. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: probabity is him and Jimmy Smith the two best receivers
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  Speaker 3: in this franchise is history. And he's not there yet, obviously,
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: because Keenan had a great career here, So you've got
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  Speaker 3: to go a little bit to be ranked ahead of
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  Speaker 3: Keenan in terms of impact. But this kid's this kid's
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  Speaker 3: special pop quiz.
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  Speaker 2: Who holds the record for most touchdowns scored by rookie
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  Speaker 2: wide receiver in NFL history?
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  Speaker 3: I would assume Moss, but maybe not.
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  Speaker 2: It is Randy Okay seventeen and nineteen ninety eight.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he should have been the runner up for Rookie
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  Speaker 3: of the Year that year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was good.
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  Speaker 3: Fred should have been Rookie the Year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah that's true.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, but Randy mat Yeah, it's uh, that's seventeen
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  Speaker 3: touchdown seventeen don'nbelievable. Well, Fred had fourteen rushing and two receiving.
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  Speaker 2: That's amazing.
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  Speaker 3: And actually Fred's rookie year strong. I mean, I'll always
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  Speaker 3: believe that that's the one that Fred should have gotten
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  Speaker 3: that he did and some of the Pro Bowls. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I understand why Fred didn't get the Pro Bowls that
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  Speaker 3: he got because of other players having years, but Fred's
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: rookie year. Along about November December, there was sort of
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  Speaker 3: this buzz that no way could Randy Moss not get it.
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  Speaker 3: I remember those of us in Jacksonville kept saying, look,
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  Speaker 3: this a Fred's rookie year. That was the year that
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  Speaker 3: he had the ninety yarder. I think you had the
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  Speaker 3: ninety yarder against Miami to start off the game, eighty yarder,
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  Speaker 3: had the winning touchdown against Tampa that we've all seen.
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  Speaker 3: He had some big, big time plays and he should
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  Speaker 3: have been it. And that's what we're talking about during
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  Speaker 3: the three and all the seasons where we.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: Are right now. One other note on this Raiders team.
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  Speaker 2: It's Jacksonville related. Caleb On Chaseon is on this team
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  Speaker 2: in Vegas. Twenty six tackles, three sacks, two of those
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  Speaker 2: over the last three weeks and he's had a tackle
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  Speaker 2: for loss in four straight games. Now he's getting more
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: and more time and a former Jaguars draft picking high one.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, good for him. Calevin a nice kid and from
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  Speaker 3: day one here just never could produce. You know, I
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: couldn't do it here. So I don't think very many
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  Speaker 3: fans who saw him over four years would say that
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  Speaker 3: there was a mistake made and not keeping You couldn't
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: and some guys just need a change of scenery. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know he's ever going to be a ten sac guy,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, you play like he's playing now and
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  Speaker 3: he can carve out a role for a couple more years.
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  Speaker 3: And good for him. I never got the impression that
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  Speaker 3: he didn't work hard. I never got the impression he
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  Speaker 3: didn't want it. Just didn't work out for him here,
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  Speaker 3: And you know, I'm glad for him. He's having a
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: little bit of success.
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  Speaker 2: As Josh Hanes Allen just told us outside the locker
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  Speaker 2: room earlier, it's like, I hope he has success next week,
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: yeah this week.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean it's what it is. It's more
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: to say and could have been could have been the
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: Gardner Mitshew Bowl, but could have been Yeah. Two number
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  Speaker 3: ten quarterbacks going at.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, could have been one of these days.
• 18:02
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• 18:17
  Speaker 2: It's huddle up without Bucky Brooks.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: I think it can go one of two ways, right,
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: if they don't have if the players don't have that mindset,
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: or if I don't have that mindset, it's gonna set
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: you back even further. But if you come into it
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: and you embrace it, all right, well, we know, we
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: know our situation, we got it, we understand that. But
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: I think these next three weeks really can set us
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: up for the future, for the offseason, for you know,
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: next year, and how we can build and where we
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: need to add pieces and all that kind of stuff,
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: the development of our roster. But having guys like Brenton
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: make those comments, I mean, those are the type of
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: players you want, right, You want those football players that
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: love being here in this building, soaking up football, soaking
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: up ball, love being on the grass. Those are the
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: guys that you can build your team around, and he's
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: one of several, obviously and many that we have on
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: the team that can do that.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: So Coach Doug Peterson, of course, earlier today full press
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: conference at Jaguars dot Com. Welcome back j P Shadwick,
• 19:26
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• 19:30
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• 19:34
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• 19:37
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• 19:49
  Speaker 2: and Blitz. So what Doug Peterson's talking about there was
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: referencing Brenton Strange wanting to obviously play, but wanting to
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: do everything else leading in to the game, the week
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: of being in here Monday, and the whole process of
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: being ready week to week. And when you have a
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: younger player like that have that mindset that that's a
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: good start. Certainly got to go play and play well
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: and do it, but you got to if you have
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: that as your baseline for a player that's a good beginning.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you would hope they all do because you only
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: get you know, it's the old cliche, right, you only
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: get eighteen of them. You see at fourteen when I
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: was a kid. Now now you get seventeen of them.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: And you know, if you want to maximize your potential
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: as a player and a team, then you need to
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: know how to take the right approach. You need to
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: be and you need to be in here on Monday
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: after a loss, making sure you know what to do
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: on Wednesday after a loss, and making sure you're ready.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: So I'm not surprised that that Brenton said that on
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: on Sunday because he's a guy who who obviously wants
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: to be good and this matters to them. So I
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: do think there is a there's the debate, right, everybody's talking.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: I know, my boy Pete Prisco keeps saying they you know,
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: you know, they ought to lose, They ought to lose.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: Like I get that for draft position, and I get that,
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: you know, on a logical level there are times that's true.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: But for this team, to me, if two or three
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: games left, if you win two of them and Tank
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Bigsby and Brenton Strange and Brian Thomas Junior and Anton Harrison,
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: and you know, these young guys matter in them. If
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: if you feel like you know Trayvon and Devon Hamilton
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: and guys that are going to be back are mattering
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: and there's something there that you like, then I think
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: winning a couple and having those guys say you know
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: what we're We're not three and eleven core players, We're
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: an improving core of players. I do think that matters.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: I don't think you now. I also because if you're
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: not picking number one, which I don't think they're gonna
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: be doing it, and you're not going to after a quarterback,
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: then it's about finding the right guy for you. How
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: many times have we seen that? You know, the tenth
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: pick is necessarily a worse player than the seventh pick. Now,
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: you'd always like to have a shot because the earlier
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: you picked, the better the guy is going to be.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: But it is that more important than what we're talking
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: about just now? I think you have to worry about
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: draft position later and try to win now. You can't.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: We're supposed to walk in and tell Breton Strange, hey,
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: hang this one up.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah right, he's trying to play it's a job. And
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: then you don't know what's going to be there in
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: the draft anyway, you have an idea, but like you,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: you don't know. Guys can slide, things can happen, you
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: can move. I mean, there's all kind of scenarios that
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: come when the draft hits. Yeah, so it'll save that
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: for the next four months after.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: It's fine to talk about and I think we talked
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: about on the show last week. JP. It's fine to
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: talk about it, and we can debate it. It's a
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: good talk show fodder. And I'm sure, I'm sure Tony
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: and Peter are entertaining talking about it.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well we put it off. They put it off
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: and put it off until they were mathematically eliminated. That's
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: the rule, and then we started.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Talking about it, right, So, but the reality is it's
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: a conversation that it doesn't really matter because the players
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: and coaches aren't gonna they're going to try to win.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: So you can talk about it all you want, But
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: it didn't feel like there's no decision to make.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: No right and if they did on purpose do it,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: teams get you know, eliminated draft picks and fines and
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: all things.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: As they should as they should. Now again, I do
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: think the Jaguars will play young players, but they're not
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: going to play younger players and then say hey, take.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: A knee, right.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: Nor should they, And so it's I understand the conversation.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: I've been part of the conversations for you know, years
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: in terms of the os on these shows, but there's
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: really not much point to it.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: And by the way it's it would be on both
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: sides down the stretch here too, when the Raiders are
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: in the same ballpark, the Titans are out of it, right,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: the Colts are probably going to be out of it
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: by the time we play them.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's uh, yeah, it's the age old story.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: You saw even the Raiders the other night, you know,
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: everybody out there saying, well, they're tanking, they're tanking, they're tanking. Well,
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: they don't know if they were tanking at the end
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: of the game when they were throwing hail Mary's into
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: the end zone trying to catch it. So it's just
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: not a realistic conversation.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: Again, the Dolphins got docked for a couple of years back,
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: but even then it was they're really the owner talking
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: about it, but they didn't do it. So you just can't.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: Coaches and players don't do it. It's not their nature.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: You can run the ball and make the clock go faster,
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: and I'll say that.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: That I'm in favor down for that.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: We're back in a moment. We'll wrap it up on
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: this Bucky Free Show today they huddle up with Bucky Brothers.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's very challenging.
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: By the end of the day, we all honestly know
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: this season not that we want to go, but we
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: still don't lose those dreams of being a super Bowl team,
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: and we know in order to get there, we're gonna
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: have to win games like this in the future. So
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: I feel like the best experiences teacher, and I feel
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: like we keep getting enough of these finally want to
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: hit that slip that switch, and then we'll figure out
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: and then would be the team winning a bunch of
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: one story games. So I feel like we we we
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: just keep learning lessons this year, but I feel like
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: we want to figure it out, and uh like just
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: learned experience is going to help us in that area.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Travis and Junior earlier this week and welcome back JP
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Shadwick with John Oser huddle up without Bucky Brooks on
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: this Wednesday, our final show and this calendar year apparently.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and a word about Travis getting me a good guy.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: It's the media good guy or some.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: From the Pro Football Writers of America. Each team has
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: what do they call it, a.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Writers hacks idiots. Yeah, I'm proud to be one.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: What am I thinking of anyway? Yes?
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: And association and that award goes to the player who's uh,
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: you know, most helpful with the media, who sort of
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: doesn't mind it, takes those as seriously and that doesn't
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: just mean something in the media. I think over time,
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: as as videos and interviews get streamed more, I think
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: fans appreciate a player who will take the time to
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: give some insight, who will try to be cordial and
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: you know, uh professional about it. Trevor got it is
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: his rookie year. Evan Anger of Christian Kirk uh a
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: reverra Or revealed my three votes. I voted for Trayvon
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: Travis first, I think, and then Foyer Lucon because all
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: three of those guys have really uh you know, I
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: was saying, improved but very helpful this year, and it's
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: not easy to do during a U during a tough season. So, uh,
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: they don't do it to be nice to the media,
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: because that's just not They do it from a feeling of, hey,
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: the fans are important, we need to talk to them
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: a little bit too. So so credit to those three.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: And it's not to say that they're always doing it
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: with a smile, but they're always, like you said, it's
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: a tough season. Maybe the game didn't go well, or
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: they're not playing well, or they're banged up or whatever
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: the case is, but they're there answering.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Especially postgame, no doubt. I want to say most of
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: those three guys have talked after every game. And it's
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: not an easy thing to do. It's not a pleasant
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: thing to do. You're trying to get you know, you
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: have players all around he everybody, everybody's ticked. So again,
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: it's appreciated for those guys.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: And we just heard Travis. They're talking about, Hey, what
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: this how challenging is it day to day to come
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: in and still continue and grind through this the last
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: month of the season, And that was his answer. He
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: also he just has a big picture awareness of his
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: role with the team, what it means, and I like hearing.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: Him say he appreciates it. He he got football taken
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: away from him for a year. He also knows that
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: he's a running back, and I've talked about this a
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: little bit in the past. He knows that he's not
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: gonna play fifteen years in this league. You know, it's
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: not a forever position. And I always get the idea
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: of being around Travis and talking to him that he
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: appreciates every moment he's got with this. He appreciates it.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: He dreamed of this, bad or good. He's living his
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: dream and he you know, I think there is a
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: sense of, Hey, a lot of people would love to
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: be here. I'll share in that with fans a little
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: bit if I can. So good kid, and he's he's
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: grown up a lot on that front. I think in
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: two or three years as he's matured as a person,
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: which is what you do when you're between twenty two
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: and twenty six years.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Old, no doubt about that. Huddle up with Bucky Brooks
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• 29:59
  Speaker 2: all quick look at the playoff races. We started the
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: AFC where Kansas City leads away thirteen and one, Buffalo
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: eleven and three, Pittsburgh they're at ten and four, and
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: then Houston of course, the AFC South champions nine to five, Baltimore,
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Denver and the LA Chargers the current wild card teams.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: The Steelers Ravens game should be a banger this week.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be a good boy with Casey and
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: Buffalo though, JP. I just kind of feel like on
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: January twentieth, Josh Allen's gonna score four touchdowns and the
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: Chiefs are gonna win by one, I mean, and it
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: just feels like it's shaping up for that because he
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: he's unbelievable. Yeah, I mean, he's having a year, you know,
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: a Lamar Jackson kind of year where just all of
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: his team's offense and there's more to that offense. But
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: somehow the Chiefs are going to go sixteen and one.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, They'll find a way somehow.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: So it just kind of feels like that's your storyline
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: going into that. And yes, Pittsburgh and Baltimore maybe outside
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: of Kansas City, and I'm probably leaving people out, but
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: are there two better franchises in terms of just being
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: there all the time, knowing what they are sticking to
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: their guns.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Super consistent.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, those coaches have been there since nineteen seventy four.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's an impressive they're impressive organizations. They do
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: a nice job.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Let's take a look at the NFC now, if we
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: get out of here, Detroit and Philly now twelve and two.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Detroit still at the top for the moment. Tampa Bay, Yeah,
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: they're eight and six, eight and six thirty. They're playing
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: pretty good. La Rams eight and six, Minnesota twelve and two,
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: and the wild card spot at the moment, Green Bay
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: ten and four, Washington nine and five. Detroit is just
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: so beat up right now, running out of gas.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: It's a shame because, yeah, I don't want to say
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: I like the Lions. I don't have much of an
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: affinity for any team outside the Jaguars, but there you
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: sort of feel like that franchise has done it so
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: well that you like to see them get a shot
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: and you feel like they sort of earned it. And
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: it's like you said, with him being so beat up.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: All the NFL teams love to say next man up,
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: but there comes a point where you're next man up
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: or off the practice squad, and that becomes tough. To
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: coach through and to next man up through, and to
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: will yourself through. And it sort of feels like that,
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: you know, always been told by GMS. I respect that
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: it's a game of town, but in the playoffs it's
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: a game of attrition, and and you're hoping to get
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: to the playoffs with your quarterback intact and with healthy
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: enough to make the matchups go in your favor. It
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: feels like that's going to catch up with the Lions
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: this year.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: You say you don't have an affinity for any other team,
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: that means you've given up your Washington Commanders.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: I haven't had that since ninety four ninety five. I mean, yeah,
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: I mean I was a huge, huge fan of that
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: team growing up. But I honestly I think the coach
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: is the guy from Atlanta. I mean, I'm exaggerating.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: I could.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: I couldn't tell you the record. I couldn't tell you
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: the Uh it's I mean, who has time to be
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: a fan?
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: Right? And I don't Yeah?
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: Right? Tough roll tied.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Well, no, I mean it's different. They're not in the playoffs. John,
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: By the way, this would have been final thought here
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: JAG's Raiders coming up. This would have been the Ultimate
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks Show, because I would have been. The Jags
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: and the Raiders are two of the teams that he contributes.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: And to the teams he played for. I mean he uh,
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: Bucky has I trust that he'll be pro Jags on Sunday?
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: Eh should be. He will better be.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: And with it being Christmas dayp what I mean, we
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: won't see each o again until Chris that I wanted
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: to wish you a merry Christmas. Also, I wanted to
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: you've seen this before.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: This is a I have seen this before.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: Happy Holidays, Mark Jape, and you would think it's holidays,
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: but there's a dog in the side. So here in
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: the it says holidays.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great. What's in that cup old coffee?
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: Okay, So happy holidays everybody.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Same to you, John, good show. There's a show.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: I guess it was a show.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Jags and the Raiders coming up this Sunday for twenty
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: five kickoff for the first time since twenty twenty.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: They're right, Yeah for the Jags.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for twenty five. They've had some four h five kicks.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: I detest four o'clock starts.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: This is the last one of the you well, we'll
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: see I think maybe maybe we get maybe Week eighteen.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: That's John oser Or Thanks to William paz Our, Thanks
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: to Joe Fortunato, to Brent Reaber Our entire crew, Thank
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: you for watching Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks. Thank