Latest / Classic Metal Show / The Decline of Anthrax? Why Their New Record is Already Dead + Throwback
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- 0:00SPEAKER_01: Greetings, everybody.
- 0:01SPEAKER_01: Nick DiVergilio here from Mr. Big, and you are watching CMS-TV.
- 0:25SPEAKER_01: And then there's our friend Styx Hexenhammer.
- 0:29SPEAKER_02: Now he's dying, allegedly?
- 0:31SPEAKER_02: What?
- 0:34That guy went from being a really cutting-edge political pundit
- 0:39to being a douche.
- 0:41SPEAKER_01: He has fallen so far from what he's built.
- 0:45He has just totally destroyed his credibility and platform and
- 0:52everything.
- 0:54SPEAKER_02: He should have just stuck to talking about politics.
- 0:57SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 0:58SPEAKER_02: I don't even really watch him anymore.
- 1:01SPEAKER_02: I use, he used to be like a daily.
- 1:04Well,
- 1:04he,
- 1:05he hasn't really put out much because he's been dealing with
- 1:08his legal issues.
- 1:10SPEAKER_02: Is that why?
- 1:10SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:11SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:13SPEAKER_01: He puts out maybe issues,
- 1:14SPEAKER_01: you know,
- 1:15SPEAKER_01: Apple that too,
- 1:16SPEAKER_01: but he,
- 1:17he was putting out four to five videos a day and I barely see
- 1:23one every two or
- 1:23SPEAKER_01: three days.
- 1:24SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:26Yeah,
- 1:27I mean,
- 1:27I don't know if he's still putting out a bunch of videos or
- 1:29not.
- 1:29SPEAKER_02: I have no idea.
- 1:32SPEAKER_02: I kind of have not been paying attention anymore.
- 1:34I see it every once in a while on Odyssey,
- 1:36but I don't even click it anymore.
- 1:38SPEAKER_02: I'm just done.
- 1:38SPEAKER_02: I'm over it.
- 1:39SPEAKER_01: Well, you can't stand listening to a toothless guy.
- 1:43SPEAKER_02: With that whistling going on when he's talking.
- 1:45SPEAKER_01: Whistling through that missing tooth hole.
- 1:47SPEAKER_01: And he's like, Sally.
- 1:53SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
- 1:54SPEAKER_02: He's like, come on, dude.
- 1:56SPEAKER_02: Old stinky whistle teats there.
- 1:58SPEAKER_02: Just stick a chiclet in there so that you're not whistling.
- 2:01SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 2:04SPEAKER_01: All right.
- 2:04SPEAKER_01: Well, what else do you have?
- 2:06SPEAKER_02: Last thing I got for the night, I think.
- 2:10SPEAKER_02: This is the all-time no-surpriser.
- 2:14SPEAKER_02: Anthrax has once again delayed their album.
- 2:18SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 2:21SPEAKER_02: It's been 10 fucking years, dude.
- 2:24SPEAKER_02: They announced a couple weeks ago it's coming in May.
- 2:27SPEAKER_02: First song going to be out in March, I think, maybe April.
- 2:34SPEAKER_02: And nothing.
- 2:35SPEAKER_02: Now it's pushed back to September.
- 2:37SPEAKER_02: Why do I think it's going to get pushed back to the new year?
- 2:42SPEAKER_02: Do you think that it could be that it's not good?
- 2:46SPEAKER_01: It's hard to tell.
- 2:48SPEAKER_01: I mean, I don't know how long it's been, what, 10 years?
- 2:51SPEAKER_01: 10 years.
- 2:52SPEAKER_01: 10 years.
- 2:57SPEAKER_01: I might agree with you that it probably isn't good.
- 3:01SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's been a long time since they've been a band band.
- 3:06I mean,
- 3:07they play the sporadic gigs here and there,
- 3:09but obviously Charlie's been off
- 3:12SPEAKER_02: you know, doing stuff with his wife as well as Pantera.
- 3:15SPEAKER_02: And, you know, he's been out doing that kind of stuff.
- 3:19SPEAKER_02: Joey's been out being a journey tribute guy.
- 3:22SPEAKER_02: Uh,
- 3:24SPEAKER_02: even John Danae is,
- 3:25SPEAKER_02: um,
- 3:26SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 3:26SPEAKER_02: he's,
- 3:26SPEAKER_02: he spent the last year recording a new shadows fall record.
- 3:30So they're not together to put that cohesive and together to
- 3:36maybe do a good album.
- 3:39SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 3:39SPEAKER_02: And it might be great.
- 3:40SPEAKER_02: I mean, who knows?
- 3:41SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 3:42SPEAKER_02: I mean,
- 3:43SPEAKER_02: the last ones,
- 3:44the last two I thought were exceptionally good for All Kings
- 3:48and worship music.
- 3:49SPEAKER_02: I thought they were both fucking fantastic.
- 3:51SPEAKER_01: They were.
- 3:52SPEAKER_01: I mean, you didn't even know Joey could sing like that.
- 3:57SPEAKER_02: No.
- 3:59SPEAKER_02: No, I thought they were really, really good.
- 4:01And,
- 4:02you know,
- 4:03as a fan,
- 4:04I want this to happen,
- 4:05but my God,
- 4:06how long are we going to wait?
- 4:07SPEAKER_02: This is getting into...
- 4:10SPEAKER_02: Once it gets into Guns N' Roses territory,
- 4:12SPEAKER_02: you really start questioning if it's a band or not anymore.
- 4:15SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 4:17SPEAKER_02: Guns N' Roses made us wait 13 fucking years and delivered a turd.
- 4:21SPEAKER_02: And I'm very, very nervous about that with anthrax here at this point.
- 4:29SPEAKER_02: As a fan, I'm very nervous about it, you know.
- 4:33SPEAKER_02: But of course, you know, they're saying all the things.
- 4:36SPEAKER_02: Oh, the first single, wait till you guys hear it.
- 4:38SPEAKER_02: It's going to be great.
- 4:39SPEAKER_02: And it's a tribute to the fans.
- 4:43SPEAKER_02: Shut up.
- 4:44SPEAKER_02: I almost wish they wouldn't say anything.
- 4:46SPEAKER_02: You know what I wish they'd say?
- 4:48SPEAKER_02: You'll have to judge it for yourself when you hear it.
- 4:52SPEAKER_02: The hype is bullshit.
- 4:53SPEAKER_02: Does anybody believe the hype?
- 4:56SPEAKER_02: When you hear a band say,
- 4:57SPEAKER_02: this is going to be great,
- 4:59SPEAKER_02: or it's the best thing ever,
- 5:00SPEAKER_02: or it's one of the best songs we've ever done,
- 5:03SPEAKER_02: do you ever buy that bullshit?
- 5:05SPEAKER_02: No, of course not.
- 5:06SPEAKER_01: Does anybody?
- 5:07SPEAKER_01: Everybody says that.
- 5:10SPEAKER_02: Does anybody buy it?
- 5:12SPEAKER_02: Does anybody?
- 5:13SPEAKER_02: The dumbest fan out there.
- 5:16SPEAKER_01: I think the over enthusiastic fans,
- 5:19SPEAKER_01: like,
- 5:20SPEAKER_01: you know,
- 5:20SPEAKER_01: we,
- 5:21SPEAKER_01: we were very hard on the release of the Megadeth,
- 5:26SPEAKER_01: you know,
- 5:26SPEAKER_01: from what we heard the first couple songs.
- 5:29SPEAKER_01: And we were just like, and, you know, granted somehow, some way,
- 5:36SPEAKER_01: It went to number one?
- 5:37SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was number one album.
- 5:39SPEAKER_01: And to me, that is not a number one Megadeth album.
- 5:42SPEAKER_02: No, no.
- 5:43SPEAKER_01: That's pretty sad that that's their highest charting album.
- 5:47So something along the way has convinced people to say,
- 5:52man,
- 5:53this is a great album.
- 5:55SPEAKER_01: And what would that be?
- 5:57SPEAKER_02: They just want it to be great, I guess.
- 5:59SPEAKER_02: I guess.
- 6:01SPEAKER_02: That's the only thing I can think of is that people want it to be good.
- 6:05SPEAKER_02: Same with the Santhrax.
- 6:07SPEAKER_02: People want it to be good.
- 6:11SPEAKER_02: Same with Metallica.
- 6:13SPEAKER_02: 72 seasons.
- 6:14SPEAKER_02: Look, I'll be honest.
- 6:15SPEAKER_02: I enjoy it, but it is one of my least favorite Metallica records.
- 6:20SPEAKER_02: Now that we've had, what, a year, year and a half of it or whatever.
- 6:24SPEAKER_02: I'm not going back to it like I was the first couple of months.
- 6:27SPEAKER_02: I was listening to it every day.
- 6:29SPEAKER_02: Now I'm like, whatever.
- 6:31SPEAKER_02: There's better things to listen to.
- 6:32SPEAKER_02: Better Metallica to listen to.
- 6:34SPEAKER_02: And I still go back to Hardwired, especially.
- 6:40SPEAKER_02: I listen to that record pretty regularly.
- 6:42So it's not like I'm only going back to Injustice for All or
- 6:46Ride the Lightning or
- 6:47SPEAKER_02: stuff like that.
- 6:48SPEAKER_02: I mean, I like some of the modern stuff from them.
- 6:51But man,
- 6:52people convinced themselves that it was...
- 6:54Remember the hype at the beginning?
- 6:56SPEAKER_02: I think we did.
- 6:57I'm sure I probably did it too because I'm a dumb fan just like
- 6:59everybody else.
- 7:01SPEAKER_02: Was probably like, this is the best thing since!
- 7:04SPEAKER_02: You know, I'm sure I must have said that at some point.
- 7:06SPEAKER_02: This is the best thing since.
- 7:08SPEAKER_02: And it's not.
- 7:10SPEAKER_02: Upon further review, it's not.
- 7:12SPEAKER_02: It's one of the worst things since.
- 7:15SPEAKER_02: It's just how it is.
- 7:16SPEAKER_02: It just sucks.
- 7:18SPEAKER_02: The whole fucking industry blows.
- 7:21SPEAKER_02: quitting this show.
- 7:25SPEAKER_02: This show is going to make, make me need therapy six days a week.
- 7:28SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 7:29SPEAKER_01: For, for a year and a half or a year and a half, not longer.
- 7:32SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 7:33SPEAKER_02: I might need it longer.
- 7:34SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 7:36SPEAKER_02: Cause I'm telling you, I, I, every story you can see it.
- 7:39SPEAKER_02: Every story this week is like, Oh, here we go again.
- 7:43SPEAKER_02: Another shitty thing.
- 7:45Yeah.
- 7:46SPEAKER_02: Every fucking story.
- 7:47SPEAKER_02: It's like, it's another shitty week.
- 7:51SPEAKER_02: Can't we get it together here somehow, some way, please?
- 7:57SPEAKER_02: So annoying.
- 7:58SPEAKER_02: But anyway, that's all I have.
- 8:01SPEAKER_02: Anthrax, for anybody that thought they were getting it soon, you're not.
- 8:04SPEAKER_02: You're waiting now until September.
- 8:06SPEAKER_02: A reason to live.
- 8:09Well,
- 8:09since Anthrax is part of the Big Four,
- 8:12I got some Big Four-related stories.
- 8:18SPEAKER_02: All right, good.
- 8:20The reason I am bringing this story to the table is because of
- 8:26the misleading
- 8:27SPEAKER_01: headline and the way that it's written.
- 8:30SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 8:32SPEAKER_01: Here's the headline.
- 8:34SPEAKER_01: Beloved 80s rocker is suddenly demanding payment for iconic song.
- 8:43SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 8:45SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 8:48SPEAKER_01: Now let's get into the crux of the article.
- 8:52Thrash metal legend Gary Holt is making headlines after
- 8:59demanding payment for his
- 9:02SPEAKER_01: unexpected role in one of metal's most iconic tracks,
- 9:07SPEAKER_01: Creeping Death.
- 9:09SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, yeah.
- 9:09SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 9:11SPEAKER_01: In a recent interview with the Heavy Stories podcast,
- 9:15SPEAKER_01: Holt revealed that while he has never officially been credited,
- 9:19he believes part of the song's famous middle section traces
- 9:23back to his own work.
- 9:25His comments,
- 9:26though playful,
- 9:28have sparked fresh conversations about songwriting credits.
- 9:32SPEAKER_01: You can stop there.
- 9:34SPEAKER_02: You can stop right there.
- 9:36Because that little two word in between the commas is just this
- 9:40writer throwing his
- 9:41SPEAKER_02: own fucking opinion in there.
- 9:43SPEAKER_01: That's exactly right.
- 9:44SPEAKER_02: The fuck out of here with that though playful.
- 9:47SPEAKER_02: It was playful.
- 9:48SPEAKER_02: He was joking.
- 9:51SPEAKER_02: You fucking jizzbag.
- 9:53SPEAKER_02: Who's the fucking... Give credit to the jizzbag that wrote this shit.
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- 11:38SPEAKER_01: The Jizz Bag's name is Mads.
- 11:41SPEAKER_01: That's M-A-D-Z.
- 11:45SPEAKER_01: Dyson.
- 11:46SPEAKER_01: D as in dick.
- 11:48SPEAKER_01: I-Z as in zebra.
- 11:50SPEAKER_01: O-N.
- 11:51SPEAKER_01: Mads Dyson.
- 11:54SPEAKER_02: Mads Dyson had this to say?
- 11:56SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 11:57SPEAKER_02: Well, Mads Dyson, you are a douche.
- 12:00SPEAKER_02: What a fucking shithead.
- 12:02SPEAKER_02: And I bet you he wrote it that way because what publication is this?
- 12:07SPEAKER_01: Parade magazine.
- 12:08SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 12:09SPEAKER_02: He wrote it this way because it wouldn't get in otherwise.
- 12:12SPEAKER_02: It wouldn't get in unless it insinuated that there was a problem.
- 12:16SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 12:16There's no way are they going to do a story about Gary Holt and
- 12:21Exodus in fucking parade.
- 12:24SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 12:26SPEAKER_02: Exodus is just not a big enough band for that.
- 12:29But if there's a Metallica tie in and it could be controversial
- 12:32clickbait city,
- 12:34SPEAKER_02: as they obviously wrote the clickbait title.
- 12:37SPEAKER_02: Wow.
- 12:39SPEAKER_02: That's fucking poor.
- 12:43SPEAKER_01: I should get paid for that.
- 12:45SPEAKER_01: Hold set with a laugh.
- 12:47SPEAKER_01: I'll send my bank info.
- 12:50SPEAKER_01: It'll be a fat check.
- 12:53SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 12:54SPEAKER_01: He's joking.
- 12:54SPEAKER_01: I know it's a joke.
- 12:59SPEAKER_01: The story goes back to the early 1980s when Holt and Kurt Hammett,
- 13:04SPEAKER_01: both members of the band Exodus,
- 13:05SPEAKER_01: during that time the group recorded a demo called Die By His Hand.
- 13:10According to Holt,
- 13:11Hammett created a riff while he contributed the lyrics.
- 13:15SPEAKER_01: Soon after,
- 13:16SPEAKER_01: Hammett left Exodus to go join Metallica,
- 13:19SPEAKER_01: stepping in for Dave Mustaine,
- 13:21SPEAKER_01: who was let go.
- 13:22Not long after the Metallica released Creeping Death on their
- 13:271984 Ride the
- 13:27SPEAKER_01: Lightning album,
- 13:29SPEAKER_01: and that's where things got interesting.
- 13:31Holt said the famous chant in the song's middle section was
- 13:35inspired by his original lyric.
- 13:37SPEAKER_01: It's Kurt's riff, it's my lyrics, Holt explains.
- 13:41SPEAKER_01: The song was dying by his hand and they changed it to die by my hand.
- 13:47Despite the similarity,
- 13:48Holt made it clear he doesn't actually own any part of the
- 13:51song.
- 13:52SPEAKER_01: Those were Kirk's riffs.
- 13:54SPEAKER_01: He was more than welcome to use them.
- 13:56SPEAKER_01: I had zero ownership of any of that.
- 14:00SPEAKER_01: Holt's playful tone didn't hide his point, though.
- 14:03SPEAKER_01: He'd never been credited for the contribution and he knows it.
- 14:08SPEAKER_02: It's not a point.
- 14:11SPEAKER_02: He wasn't making that point.
- 14:14SPEAKER_02: If anything,
- 14:15all he's doing is circling back around to the fact that in 1981
- 14:21or whatever,
- 14:22SPEAKER_02: 1980,
- 14:22SPEAKER_02: they all were boys hanging out and jamming.
- 14:27SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 14:27It was sort of an incestuous thing that this guy went to this
- 14:31band and this guy
- 14:33SPEAKER_01: joined that band and,
- 14:35SPEAKER_01: you know,
- 14:35SPEAKER_01: interchangeable members.
- 14:37SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 14:38SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 14:41SPEAKER_01: I mean,
- 14:42SPEAKER_01: you look at the history of,
- 14:44SPEAKER_01: say,
- 14:44SPEAKER_01: like Dokken and Rat and all those guys in their early years,
- 14:50SPEAKER_01: Quiet Riot.
- 14:51SPEAKER_01: Everybody was changing members.
- 14:53SPEAKER_02: Look at fucking London.
- 14:54SPEAKER_02: Everybody that was in every other band was in London.
- 14:57SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
- 14:58SPEAKER_02: London was like the bus station to an 80s band.
- 15:00SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they were the farm club.
- 15:02SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 15:03SPEAKER_02: Everybody went there and then pew, pew.
- 15:05SPEAKER_02: You're going to Wasp.
- 15:06SPEAKER_02: You're going to Motley Crue.
- 15:07SPEAKER_02: You're going to this band.
- 15:09SPEAKER_02: You're going to that band.
- 15:10SPEAKER_02: Come on.
- 15:14SPEAKER_02: I hate these.
- 15:17SPEAKER_02: I'm not a big, you know this.
- 15:19I mean,
- 15:19I'm not the hater of AI,
- 15:21but I don't want to see it eliminate jobs.
- 15:25SPEAKER_02: This is one industry that I would love for it to eliminate all the jobs.
- 15:29Get rid of every one of these fucking jizz bag writers that
- 15:33does no research and
- 15:35SPEAKER_02: does everything based on how good they can manipulate a clickbait.
- 15:40SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 15:41SPEAKER_02: Get rid of all of them.
- 15:43SPEAKER_02: You know, just replace them with fucking Grok.
- 15:46Grok could do every bit as good as Mads Dyson or whatever you
- 15:50said his name is.
- 15:51SPEAKER_01: I am.
- 15:57SPEAKER_02: I'm not in a great mood about any of these fucking cunts.
- 16:01SPEAKER_02: Really not.
- 16:04SPEAKER_02: I've decided that I spent too many years being nice on this show.
- 16:07SPEAKER_01: It's time to get back to basics.
- 16:09SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 16:09SPEAKER_01: Get back to being angry.
- 16:11SPEAKER_02: That's right.
- 16:13SPEAKER_01: I've never been credited, so yeah, that'll tell you how I feel.
- 16:16SPEAKER_01: He said laughing again.
- 16:18SPEAKER_01: Son of a bitch making a point that he wants money.
- 16:22SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 16:23SPEAKER_01: Except he's not.
- 16:24SPEAKER_01: He's demanding money all of a sudden.
- 16:27SPEAKER_01: Oh, stop it.
- 16:28SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 16:29Because those Slayer checks have run a little thin now,
- 16:33so now he needs Metallica money.
- 16:36SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 16:37SPEAKER_01: Jesus.
- 16:37SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 16:38SPEAKER_01: For longtime fans,
- 16:39SPEAKER_01: the story adds a new layer to Creeping Death,
- 16:41SPEAKER_01: one of Metallica's most loved songs.
- 16:44It also shines a light on how songs can evolve as band members
- 16:48move and the ideas travel.
- 16:51SPEAKER_01: Today, Holt remains a major force in metal music.
- 16:54SPEAKER_01: As the longtime guitarist of Exodus,
- 16:56he helped shape the sound of thrash along with bands like
- 16:59Metallica and others from
- 17:01SPEAKER_01: the same era.
- 17:02Even now at 61,
- 17:04Holt is still touring,
- 17:05recording,
- 17:06and connecting with new generations of fans.
- 17:09He recently shared that the younger audiences are showing up to
- 17:12shows in big
- 17:14SPEAKER_01: numbers,
- 17:14SPEAKER_01: ACDC,
- 17:17SPEAKER_01: proving the thrash metal is far from fading.
- 17:20SPEAKER_01: I'm a super happy guy, Holt said in another interview.
- 17:24SPEAKER_01: Music is a way to get things off your chest.
- 17:28SPEAKER_02: They're not getting a lot of love on this new record, though.
- 17:33SPEAKER_02: I mean, they are from press, but they're not from fans.
- 17:37I've been reading a lot of fan reviews that have been like,
- 17:39eh,
- 17:39it's kind of boring.
- 17:41SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 17:42SPEAKER_02: I think it's good, but fans are not loving it.
- 17:46SPEAKER_01: So Gary Holt's suddenly demanding payment for iconic song.
- 17:51SPEAKER_01: Sure he is.
- 17:51SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
- 17:54SPEAKER_02: How'd that work for him?
- 17:55SPEAKER_02: You think all of a sudden Het's going to open the wallet here?
- 17:59SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 17:59SPEAKER_01: Well, he's going to have to pony up some of that spear money.
- 18:03SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 18:04SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 18:04Yeah.
- 18:07SPEAKER_02: Maybe that's how I'll pay him.
- 18:08SPEAKER_02: I'll give him a free ticket to the sphere.
- 18:10SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 18:10SPEAKER_01: Bring your girl.
- 18:11SPEAKER_01: Come on.
- 18:12SPEAKER_01: That ticket is worth $30,000.
- 18:15SPEAKER_01: Every penny of it is as much as your contribution to that song.
- 18:20SPEAKER_02: That's what you get for saying dying by my hand.
- 18:23SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 18:23SPEAKER_02: You get it.
- 18:24SPEAKER_02: You get a sphere ticket to exactly.
- 18:26SPEAKER_02: Great.
- 18:28SPEAKER_02: We'll even throw in the parking pass.
- 18:33SPEAKER_01: Well, speaking of Metallica, your boy Hatfield.
- 18:38SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I saw this story too.
- 18:40SPEAKER_01: I know, I sent it to you.
- 18:42SPEAKER_02: I saw it actually beforehand.
- 18:44SPEAKER_02: I was hoping you didn't even see it.
- 18:46I wanted to avoid...
- 18:49James is making it tough to be a fucking Metallica fan these
- 18:53days.
- 18:54SPEAKER_02: They are making it tough to be a Metallica fan these days.
- 18:56SPEAKER_01: Yes, I know.
- 18:57SPEAKER_01: They have become the pussy faggot fan that...
- 19:03SPEAKER_01: We made fun of decades ago.
- 19:05SPEAKER_02: They really have between this story.
- 19:08SPEAKER_01: They have become a poser band now.
- 19:11SPEAKER_02: They're you too now.
- 19:13SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they really are.
- 19:14SPEAKER_02: They're you too now.
- 19:16SPEAKER_02: And that stinks.
- 19:18SPEAKER_02: As somebody that loved this band, that really stinks.
- 19:23SPEAKER_02: But go ahead, read this.
- 19:24SPEAKER_01: But I like the,
- 19:26SPEAKER_01: again,
- 19:26SPEAKER_01: with everything in music now,
- 19:29SPEAKER_01: I notice every headline now when it talks about
- 19:33any musician yeah they're iconic legendary legendary beloved
- 19:41you know so of course
- 19:42this this article also from parade of course iconic 90s rocker
- 19:50he's a 90s rocker
- 19:51now because that's when all the good metallic music announces
- 19:58engagement amid the
- 20:00SPEAKER_01: 2026 tour
- 20:05why you have so much money she's not going anywhere i honestly
- 20:13this average looking
- 20:16lady yeah and she's an average looking lady i'm sorry james but
- 20:22this is an average
- 20:24SPEAKER_02: looking broad
- 20:28SPEAKER_01: She's too old to have that low-cut cleavage.
- 20:32SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 20:34SPEAKER_02: It's low-cut to her fucking pubis.
- 20:38SPEAKER_02: That's what I'm saying.
- 20:39SPEAKER_01: She's too old for this.
- 20:40SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 20:40SPEAKER_02: She's got to be 60.
- 20:41SPEAKER_02: Close to it.
- 20:44SPEAKER_01: Late 50s.
- 20:44SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 20:45SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 20:49SPEAKER_01: James Hetfield,
- 20:50SPEAKER_01: founding member of the iconic,
- 20:52SPEAKER_01: once again,
- 20:53SPEAKER_01: heavy metal band Metallica,
- 20:55SPEAKER_01: shared some heartwarming personal news on social media on Sunday.
- 21:01The band announced in an Instagram post that Hetfield62 and his
- 21:04partner Adriana
- 21:07SPEAKER_01: Gillette are officially engaged after an underwater proposal.
- 21:13SPEAKER_01: See, this is just pathetic.
- 21:17while the couple swam with the sharks hetfield is shown holding
- 21:22a sign that says
- 21:24adriana gillette you marry me as gillette holds the ring box
- 21:30with one hand and a
- 21:32SPEAKER_01: thumbs up gesture with the other how great
- 21:39SPEAKER_01: The best birthday trip surprise.
- 21:41SPEAKER_01: Swimming with whales and sharks on Friday the 13th with the most unique,
- 21:47SPEAKER_01: special,
- 21:48SPEAKER_01: and romantic proposal a Pisces could ever imagine.
- 21:52SPEAKER_01: Oh, shut up.
- 21:53SPEAKER_02: Wait a minute.
- 21:56SPEAKER_02: Just stop there.
- 21:57SPEAKER_02: Everything about that paragraph you just read says faggot.
- 22:02SPEAKER_02: Yes.
- 22:07SPEAKER_02: What in the hell?
- 22:09is he doing there's the thing look at this fag yes so sad in a
- 22:24sea full of fish we
- 22:26caught each other thank you that's that that sentence all by
- 22:34itself is enough to
- 22:35SPEAKER_02: break up over
- 22:39SPEAKER_02: That's like, really?
- 22:40SPEAKER_02: That's what you think?
- 22:41SPEAKER_02: Let me see how much you like this water while I drown you!
- 22:43SPEAKER_02: God!
- 22:49Thank you,
- 22:49God,
- 22:50for putting us together so I can enjoy James's multi-millions
- 22:55upon millions.
- 22:57SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so I can enjoy his half a billion dollars.
- 23:00SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 23:01SPEAKER_01: Oh, my God.
- 23:03Fans and friends of the couple celebrated the engagement news
- 23:07and comments of their
- 23:09SPEAKER_01: social media.
- 23:11SPEAKER_01: Slipknot drummer Jay Weinberg wrote, Yes!
- 23:15SPEAKER_01: Congratulations to you both!
- 23:18yeah exclamation points and two hearts yeah and by the way he's
- 23:23not slipknot
- 23:24strummer anymore but that's a whole expecting them to get the
- 23:27information right is
- 23:28a whole nother thing but yeah that's great headfield's
- 23:33engagement comes just as
- 23:34metallica's preparing to embark on their m72 tour which kicks
- 23:39off in europe in may
- 23:42SPEAKER_01: kicks off it'll be kicking off in europe
- 23:47SPEAKER_02: We saw the M72 tour, what, two years ago?
- 23:50SPEAKER_01: Three years ago or something.
- 23:52SPEAKER_01: Three to four years now.
- 23:53SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's been going on forever.
- 23:55SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 23:59The band will be performing across several dates at the Sphere
- 24:04in Las Vegas for a
- 24:05SPEAKER_01: series of no-repeat weekend shows from October 26 to March of 27,
- 24:11SPEAKER_01: which Metallica will never perform the same song twice.
- 24:14SPEAKER_01: Never.
- 24:15SPEAKER_01: Never.
- 24:17SPEAKER_01: Tickets for Metallica tour dates are already available on their website.
- 24:22Headfield founded Metallica in 81 alongside drummers Lars
- 24:26Ulrich over the past four decades.
- 24:29The band has solidified its legacy as one of the most
- 24:32influential acts in heavy metal history.
- 24:35Sitting next to Slayer,
- 24:37Anthrax,
- 24:38and Megadeth as one of the big four of thrash metal music.
- 24:41SPEAKER_02: Hmm.
- 24:42SPEAKER_01: The band has released 11 studio albums over the course of their career.
- 24:46SPEAKER_01: Their most recent album,
- 24:48SPEAKER_01: 72 Seasons in 2023,
- 24:50SPEAKER_01: won the Grammy Award for Best Metal Performance for its title track.
- 24:56SPEAKER_01: In 2009, Metallica was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
- 25:01SPEAKER_02: Wonderful.
- 25:03SPEAKER_02: You know what?
- 25:03Any fan that cheerleaded this,
- 25:07you're the reason that we're getting the shitty music.
- 25:10Pfft.
- 25:11SPEAKER_02: Because if you're telling him that this is inspired, you're an idiot.
- 25:16You should be like,
- 25:17dude,
- 25:18James Hetfield from 1987 would beat this guy's ass.
- 25:22This guy that proposed while swimming with sharks,
- 25:26get the fuck out of here with that shit.
- 25:29SPEAKER_02: And again, another, I need the spotlight guy.
- 25:35SPEAKER_02: Right?
- 25:36SPEAKER_02: I agree.
- 25:37SPEAKER_02: This...
- 25:39As faggy as this is,
- 25:41and it is quite faggy,
- 25:44I would still be okay with this if it was private.
- 25:47SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
- 25:48SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 25:49SPEAKER_02: If this was just something him and his chick did,
- 25:52SPEAKER_02: like maybe she's into scuba diving or something,
- 25:55or I don't know why they were swimming with sharks in the first
- 25:58fucking place.
- 25:59SPEAKER_02: And I don't want to know because outside of being on stage,
- 26:02SPEAKER_02: I shouldn't give a shit about James Hetfield.
- 26:06SPEAKER_02: But to share this in public,
- 26:08SPEAKER_02: like it's cool,
- 26:09SPEAKER_02: like it's as cool as it was to do day on the green,
- 26:15SPEAKER_02: or it's as cool as it was to tour with Ozzy.
- 26:21SPEAKER_02: This is as cool too.
- 26:22Here's me proposing to my girl with a piece of paper that I
- 26:26took underwater with me.
- 26:28SPEAKER_02: And I almost got bit by a hammerhead shark, but God damn it.
- 26:31SPEAKER_02: I proposed to her.
- 26:34SPEAKER_02: That is as gay as it gets.
- 26:37SPEAKER_02: That is as gay as it gets.
- 26:42SPEAKER_02: And again, who likes Metallica more than me?
- 26:48Apparently a lot of people these days,
- 26:50because I can't take this anymore from this band.
- 26:54Between the sphere costing an expensive vacation's worth of
- 26:59money to go see it,
- 27:02Meanwhile,
- 27:02the singer is preoccupied swimming with sharks to propose to
- 27:07his bitch.
- 27:08SPEAKER_02: Jesus Christ.
- 27:10SPEAKER_02: Son of a bitch.
- 27:12SPEAKER_01: Play that clip.
- 27:14SPEAKER_01: Son of a bitch.
- 27:15SPEAKER_01: What the hell are you doing?
- 27:21SPEAKER_01: Where are you, Anthony?
- 27:22SPEAKER_02: Ohio, Croatian.
- 27:23SPEAKER_02: That's a legendary proposal.
- 27:25SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 27:31SPEAKER_01: All right.
- 27:31SPEAKER_01: This one is for you, James.
- 27:37SPEAKER_01: Jesus Christ.
- 27:39SPEAKER_02: Son of a bitch.
- 27:40SPEAKER_02: What the hell are you faggots doing?
- 27:44SPEAKER_02: Yes.
- 27:47SPEAKER_02: I agree.
- 27:49SPEAKER_02: Between that and Lars selling art.
- 27:52SPEAKER_02: What happened to these guys?
- 27:55SPEAKER_02: Well, they're rich now.
- 27:57SPEAKER_02: Doesn't mean you got to be a dick smoker.
- 27:59SPEAKER_02: Well, that's what happens.
- 28:02SPEAKER_02: Doesn't have to.
- 28:04You can have money and still be fucking who you were because
- 28:07that's who you are.
- 28:08Dude,
- 28:11I mean,
- 28:12look,
- 28:13James Hetfield has had money for 35 years,
- 28:16I would say.
- 28:17SPEAKER_02: Is that fair?
- 28:19SPEAKER_02: Black album, 91.
- 28:21SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
- 28:22SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 28:24SPEAKER_02: You know, from 91 on, they have been uber wealthy.
- 28:28SPEAKER_02: That's a fair assessment.
- 28:30SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I would agree.
- 28:32SPEAKER_02: So that should mean, though, he had well-established himself up to that.
- 28:36He was probably in his 30s at that point and was a
- 28:40well-established person of who he was.
- 28:44SPEAKER_02: And now he's not that guy at all.
- 28:45SPEAKER_02: That guy does not seem to exist anymore on any level.
- 28:49Hetfield is one of the biggest disappointments in heavy metal
- 28:53history,
- 28:53as far as I'm concerned.
- 28:55SPEAKER_02: You know, he went from being the...
- 28:59SPEAKER_02: the prototype of how to make heavy metal.
- 29:02SPEAKER_02: He really was.
- 29:03SPEAKER_02: Carmen Apice told me, you know, here I am throwing names.
- 29:05SPEAKER_02: Carmine Apice told me this week.
- 29:07SPEAKER_02: My good friend.
- 29:09SPEAKER_02: My good friend Carmine, when I was chatting with him during the week,
- 29:13SPEAKER_02: told me that he thinks that Metallica was the inventor of heavy metal,
- 29:17SPEAKER_02: not Black Sabbath because Black Sabbath was still doing heavy rock,
- 29:23SPEAKER_02: but with just bigger guitars.
- 29:25And it was Lars doing the double bass and stuff that really
- 29:31created heavy metal.
- 29:34SPEAKER_02: And again, that's his take, not mine.
- 29:35SPEAKER_01: Well, what about Jesus Priest?
- 29:37SPEAKER_02: Well, I agree with you.
- 29:39SPEAKER_02: Believe me.
- 29:40SPEAKER_02: I take Carmine with.
- 29:41SPEAKER_01: Well, he has Carmine and the Rockers.
- 29:43SPEAKER_02: That is true.
- 29:45SPEAKER_02: But my point is those guys do not exist anymore.
- 29:53SPEAKER_02: The guys that invented this shit, they don't exist anymore.
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- 30:13SPEAKER_00: Get your metal feed.
- 30:15SPEAKER_00: X.com slash CMS rocks.
- 30:20SPEAKER_02: How many...
- 30:21When was the last time you saw a cool picture of anybody in
- 30:26Metallica versus a
- 30:29picture of them coming out of sacks with two bags and a broad
- 30:34on their hand?
- 30:35SPEAKER_01: With Louis Vuitton bags and wearing Burberry scarves and shit like that.
- 30:42SPEAKER_02: That's what I mean.
- 30:44SPEAKER_02: These guys actively and purposely changed.
- 30:50The band that I was a fan of,
- 30:52the guys that I was a fan of,
- 30:53they do not exist anymore.
- 30:56SPEAKER_02: They died.
- 30:58SPEAKER_02: They're done.
- 30:59SPEAKER_02: They're gone.
- 31:01SPEAKER_02: And in their place,
- 31:03SPEAKER_02: the guys that we got on the load cover,
- 31:07SPEAKER_02: haircut,
- 31:08SPEAKER_02: looking like they're at the business office,
- 31:11SPEAKER_02: doing whatever the fuck they want and just saying,
- 31:13SPEAKER_02: you people are too stupid to ever say no.
- 31:17SPEAKER_02: And they're right.
- 31:18SPEAKER_02: They're right on that, but it's so fucking enraging.
- 31:26SPEAKER_02: Think about it.
- 31:27SPEAKER_02: Think about it, dude.
- 31:28SPEAKER_02: Put it into your world.
- 31:30SPEAKER_02: If Don Dockin all of a sudden started doing fucking...
- 31:35SPEAKER_02: um, EDM music or something, you know, disco music or something.
- 31:40SPEAKER_02: If,
- 31:40SPEAKER_02: if he just said,
- 31:40SPEAKER_02: you know what,
- 31:42I've done this enough and now I got a new chick and this new
- 31:45chick likes EDM.
- 31:47SPEAKER_02: So now I'm going to do EDM.
- 31:49SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 31:49SPEAKER_02: I'm not going to be the old doc and I'm going to be this now.
- 31:53I,
- 31:54you would be like,
- 31:55you wouldn't give up on them because you're friendly with them.
- 31:58And even if we're friendly of them,
- 31:59because that music means so much to you.
- 32:02SPEAKER_01: I agree.
- 32:02SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 32:04And you would go around day to day every time you saw a Doc in
- 32:07story going.
- 32:12Well,
- 32:13I'll tell you one that's probably really disappointing for one
- 32:16of our fans.
- 32:17SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 32:18SPEAKER_01: Richie Blackmore.
- 32:21SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 32:22SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I would imagine.
- 32:23SPEAKER_02: But Jim is such a fan.
- 32:25SPEAKER_02: He just blindly accepts it.
- 32:27yeah but but wouldn't you want to see black more rocking out
- 32:31with rainbow oh yeah
- 32:33or deep purple rather than doing this this you know this
- 32:37fucking renaissance fair
- 32:38music renaissance fair music no i agree i agree isn't that
- 32:43disappointing it's just
- 32:44like come on richie fucking rock man and jim is one of these
- 32:49guys that if he was a
- 32:49SPEAKER_02: metallica fan would be online going so proud of you bro great job
- 32:56SPEAKER_02: You proposed with the sharks swimming around you.
- 33:00SPEAKER_02: Jim would be that guy.
- 33:01SPEAKER_02: He would be that guy.
- 33:04SPEAKER_02: Because he could never say that Richie Blackmore did anything dumb.
- 33:08SPEAKER_02: He could never do it.
- 33:11SPEAKER_02: Me and you, we just don't give a shit.
- 33:17I just know when I saw this article of James with that big
- 33:21shit-eating grin on his
- 33:23SPEAKER_01: face and doing this,
- 33:24holding signs underwater and putting it out there for public
- 33:28consumption and
- 33:30SPEAKER_01: putting it on social.
- 33:31That picture that you got up there on the screen of him holding
- 33:36the sign and
- 33:38SPEAKER_01: putting that out there,
- 33:39SPEAKER_01: it's just like...
- 33:40SPEAKER_02: It's like,
- 33:41SPEAKER_02: why are you doing this?
- 33:42SPEAKER_02: What are you doing?
- 33:44SPEAKER_02: Just stop it.
- 33:46SPEAKER_02: You know,
- 33:47SPEAKER_02: I mean,
- 33:48it's just I've never wanted somebody to go back to their bad
- 33:52substances more than
- 33:54SPEAKER_02: James Hetfield.
- 33:56SPEAKER_02: Everything about Het was so cool when he was an alcoholic.
- 34:01SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry that I'm not supposed to say that, but I'm saying it.
- 34:05SPEAKER_02: This is crazy.
- 34:07SPEAKER_02: Example number one of why rock stars are better if they do drugs or drink
- 34:12SPEAKER_02: themselves to death by 40.
- 34:13I have a new respect for Midnight of Crimson Glory because he
- 34:17did it his way and he
- 34:18SPEAKER_02: drank himself straight out.
- 34:20SPEAKER_01: Well,
- 34:21SPEAKER_01: that was excessive,
- 34:22but we got another hero that actually had a longer life and
- 34:27even did probably worse
- 34:28SPEAKER_01: things is Lemmy.
- 34:30SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 34:31SPEAKER_02: Did it his way the whole time.
- 34:33SPEAKER_02: Never caved, never quit, never softened up.
- 34:37SPEAKER_02: But I'm going to stay the same with what I just said.
- 34:41Hetfield,
- 34:43nobody ever called him anything but amazing when he was a
- 34:47drunk.
- 34:48SPEAKER_02: True?
- 34:49SPEAKER_02: I agree.
- 34:50SPEAKER_02: There was never criticism of him.
- 34:53They were cooler than everybody else in that run from ride the
- 34:58lightning to up to black album.
- 35:02SPEAKER_02: And some would say yes with black.
- 35:03SPEAKER_02: Some would say no.
- 35:04SPEAKER_02: So I'll say up to the black album.
- 35:07SPEAKER_02: There was no cooler band than Metallica.
- 35:10SPEAKER_01: I mean,
- 35:11SPEAKER_01: when they were good,
- 35:11SPEAKER_01: when they did binge and purge on that tour,
- 35:14SPEAKER_01: they still looked like Metallica.
- 35:16SPEAKER_02: They were still great.
- 35:18SPEAKER_02: And then when James quit drinking,
- 35:22SPEAKER_02: That's when we started with the, hey, friends.
- 35:26SPEAKER_02: And look, there's a nine-year-old in the crowd.
- 35:28SPEAKER_02: This is wonderful.
- 35:30SPEAKER_02: Come on up and sing with us, kid.
- 35:34SPEAKER_02: Between that and the friends and the, you know, the... Metallica family.
- 35:40SPEAKER_02: the Metallica family and the embarrassing video of them with the shrink,
- 35:45because God knows they couldn't just get in a room and punch
- 35:48each other out like
- 35:49SPEAKER_02: every other band has ever done throughout time.
- 35:52Instead,
- 35:53they needed to bring in a fucking shrink at $10,000 a day to
- 35:55help them ease their pain.
- 35:59and find their chi again and get the fuck out of here and also
- 36:03make a movie out of
- 36:04it make a movie well of course you got to release that too
- 36:07right of course another
- 36:08piece of information that should have never been in public view
- 36:12some kind of
- 36:12monster should have never seen it the light of day in public
- 36:17form except it would
- 36:18make money and that ghoul fucking over at q prime was like yeah
- 36:23we can do something
- 36:24SPEAKER_02: with this
- 36:26SPEAKER_02: We can make money with it.
- 36:27SPEAKER_02: What's even more funny about that is, and nobody even talks about it.
- 36:31They had one song in that thing that was like,
- 36:35they even made fun of that.
- 36:36SPEAKER_02: It was like such a crappy song that they didn't end up using it,
- 36:39SPEAKER_02: but they showed it in that some kind of monster movie.
- 36:42SPEAKER_02: Well, it's in, it's on the 72 seasons album now.
- 36:45SPEAKER_02: So even though they literally said it was a piece of shit song,
- 36:49SPEAKER_02: yeah,
- 36:49SPEAKER_02: we'll just retool it a little bit.
- 36:52SPEAKER_02: And now it's on, now it's on the 72 seasons album.
- 36:56SPEAKER_02: They've gotten lazy.
- 36:57SPEAKER_02: They don't care.
- 36:59SPEAKER_02: Made a fortune.
- 37:00SPEAKER_02: Play on weekends.
- 37:04SPEAKER_02: I mean, they give the fans a lot for their money.
- 37:07SPEAKER_02: I will say that.
- 37:08SPEAKER_02: Not Sphere money, but up until the Sphere tours.
- 37:12SPEAKER_02: You know, the whole thing about no repeats and two shows over a weekend.
- 37:19SPEAKER_02: That's pretty cool.
- 37:20SPEAKER_02: I mean, that is a pretty good get if you're a Metallica fan.
- 37:24SPEAKER_02: That being said...
- 37:27SPEAKER_02: It's over.
- 37:28SPEAKER_02: Another band bites the dust.
- 37:31SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 37:33SPEAKER_01: Anyway, go ahead.
- 37:34SPEAKER_01: All right.
- 37:35SPEAKER_01: Well, one last thing and we'll get out of here.
- 37:37SPEAKER_01: All right.
- 37:38SPEAKER_01: Well, we lost Chuck Norris the other day.
- 37:40SPEAKER_02: Yes.
- 37:42SPEAKER_02: He got tired of fighting the humans and went to fight God.
- 37:45SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 37:47SPEAKER_01: So as a tribute to Chuck Norris.
- 37:50This is a tribute to a front man that is still performing at a
- 37:55high level.
- 37:56SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 37:57This is called 11 reasons why Iron Maiden's Bruce Dickinson is
- 38:01the Chuck Norris of heavy metal.
- 38:04SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 38:06SPEAKER_01: Something to tie it all in here.
- 38:07SPEAKER_01: All right.
- 38:09SPEAKER_01: It's T minus Czech's calendar panics slightly.
- 38:12Nine months until heavy metal titans Iron Maiden storm back
- 38:16into Australia for
- 38:17SPEAKER_01: their absolutely colossal 50th anniversary run for your lives tour.
- 38:22Headlining stadiums dragging along Megadeth and generally
- 38:27reminding us all that subtly...
- 38:31subtly has never been part of the maiden brand and if you're a
- 38:36maiden fan then you
- 38:37already know what this means it means we must prepare ourselves
- 38:41not just for the
- 38:43galloping baselines not just for inflatable eddies not just for
- 38:47the stadium scale
- 38:48SPEAKER_01: theatrics but for the return of bruce dickinson
- 38:51SPEAKER_01: Yes,
- 38:52SPEAKER_01: the Bruce Dickinson,
- 38:54SPEAKER_01: air raid siren front man,
- 38:56the only human alive who can sprint across a stadium stage for
- 39:00two hours straight
- 39:01SPEAKER_01: while hitting notes that summon medieval spirits.
- 39:05Non-maiden devotees may not fully grasp the magnitude at which
- 39:09approaching our
- 39:11SPEAKER_01: what's approaching our shores in November of 2026.
- 39:15SPEAKER_01: So allow us to very possibly save your life.
- 39:19SPEAKER_01: Bruce Dickinson is the Chuck Norris of heavy metal.
- 39:23In fact,
- 39:23he is the only person in the world that Chuck Norris checks
- 39:26under his bed at night for.
- 39:28SPEAKER_01: Not anymore there.
- 39:29SPEAKER_01: Chuck's gone to the great beyond.
- 39:32SPEAKER_01: Checking under his casket.
- 39:34SPEAKER_01: Pretty much.
- 39:36Because Bruce Dickinson is not just the front man of one of the
- 39:39most iconic heavy
- 39:40SPEAKER_01: metal bands of all time,
- 39:41SPEAKER_01: he is also,
- 39:43SPEAKER_01: number one,
- 39:44SPEAKER_01: a commercial pilot and marketing director.
- 39:47Most maiden fans know that Bruce Dickinson is a fully licensed
- 39:50airline pilot.
- 39:51He regularly flew Boeing 757s in his role as a captain for the
- 39:57now-defunct UK
- 39:58SPEAKER_01: charter airline,
- 40:00SPEAKER_01: Australia's.
- 40:02SPEAKER_01: which has also employed him as a marketing director for two years.
- 40:07But did you know that Bruce Dickinson has also been in the
- 40:10cockpit of multiple
- 40:12SPEAKER_01: high-profile military and commercial voyages,
- 40:14including the time he returned a group of British RAF pilots
- 40:19home from Afghanistan
- 40:20SPEAKER_01: in 2008?
- 40:21SPEAKER_01: You're kidding!
- 40:23SPEAKER_02: I never heard that he flew.
- 40:24SPEAKER_02: Next thing you're going to tell me he's a fencer too, right?
- 40:29SPEAKER_01: Um,
- 40:30SPEAKER_01: let's see,
- 40:31SPEAKER_01: uh,
- 40:31200 UK citizens home from Lebanon during the Israeli Hezbollah
- 40:35conflict in 2006 and
- 40:37SPEAKER_01: a hundred stranded holiday,
- 40:39SPEAKER_01: uh,
- 40:40makers home from Egypt following the collapse of XL airways in
- 40:45September of 2008.
- 40:46SPEAKER_01: Um,
- 40:48Bruce Dickinson's fearsome aeronautic skills are also called
- 40:51upon to fly football
- 40:53SPEAKER_01: giants,
- 40:53Rangers FC and Liverpool FC to away matches in Israel and Italy
- 41:00during the same
- 41:00SPEAKER_01: time period.
- 41:03It is said that volcanoes inquire about Bruce Dickinson's
- 41:08flight patterns before
- 41:09SPEAKER_01: they erupt so as to not disturb him.
- 41:14SPEAKER_01: He is an endangered turtle rescuer.
- 41:19SPEAKER_01: Bruce Dickinson was recently swimming with Headfield.
- 41:22SPEAKER_01: I don't think so.
- 41:24SPEAKER_01: Looking for turtles to save.
- 41:26SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 41:26SPEAKER_01: Bruce Dickinson was recently involved in a noble mission to fly a sick,
- 41:31endangered turtle named Terry from New Jersey all the way back
- 41:35to his home on the
- 41:36SPEAKER_01: Canary Islands.
- 41:37SPEAKER_01: Bruce Dickinson volunteered his private jet for the task.
- 41:41And though it's not yet known whether Bruce Dickinson piloted
- 41:44the aircraft himself,
- 41:46SPEAKER_01: of course he did.
- 41:49Uh,
- 41:49he is an actual doctor as well as graduating university with a
- 41:55degree in a history.
- 41:57SPEAKER_01: Bruce Dickinson was awarded an honorary doctorate of music.
- 42:01SPEAKER_01: So he's not a doctor.
- 42:02SPEAKER_01: He's an honorary doctor.
- 42:04SPEAKER_01: He is an honorary doctor of music by London's queen Mary college in 2011.
- 42:12SPEAKER_01: He is an Olympic level fencer as Chris pointed out.
- 42:17SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 42:17SPEAKER_01: Uh, in 1989, Bruce Dickinson was ranked seventh in all of great Britain.
- 42:22SPEAKER_01: Legend has it.
- 42:23SPEAKER_01: Bruce Dickinson was even invited to join the British Olympic team,
- 42:27SPEAKER_01: but declined due to iron maidens touring commitments.
- 42:31SPEAKER_01: He's a military veteran.
- 42:33SPEAKER_01: Bruce Dickinson proved that he is not afraid to fight for what's right,
- 42:37SPEAKER_01: spending a short amount of time with Territorial Army,
- 42:40SPEAKER_01: a part-time voluntary section of the British Armed Forces,
- 42:44prior to his university studies and achievement of global
- 42:48domination by way of
- 42:50SPEAKER_01: heavy metal.
- 42:51SPEAKER_01: However,
- 42:52SPEAKER_01: please note that the historical records show Bruce Dickinson,
- 42:55SPEAKER_01: uh,
- 42:56SPEAKER_01: didn't join the territorial army.
- 42:58SPEAKER_01: The territorial army briefly joined Bruce Dickinson.
- 43:03SPEAKER_01: He is an accomplished screenwriter.
- 43:06SPEAKER_01: Oh, really?
- 43:07Bruce Dickinson co-authored the script for the 2008 film
- 43:11Chemical Wedding about
- 43:13SPEAKER_01: infamous alchemist and Satanist Aleister Crowley.
- 43:17The most incredible thing about this is that Bruce Dickinson
- 43:20didn't even lift a
- 43:21SPEAKER_01: finger to write the script.
- 43:22SPEAKER_01: The words simply assembled themselves out of fear.
- 43:25SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 43:27SPEAKER_02: I'm about to throw up from listening to this fucking story.
- 43:31SPEAKER_01: He's a radio DJ.
- 43:34Bruce Dickinson presented Bruce Dickinson's Friday rock show on
- 43:38BBC radio for eight
- 43:40SPEAKER_01: years straight between 2002 and 2010.
- 43:44SPEAKER_01: When the station acts the show,
- 43:46Bruce Dickinson hit them with a very public fuck you by
- 43:49blasting the Johnny
- 43:50paycheck version of take this job and shove it live on the air
- 43:54during his final.
- 43:56SPEAKER_02: What a, what a rebel.
- 43:59SPEAKER_01: He's an ale brewer.
- 44:01SPEAKER_01: Bruce Dickinson worked alongside.
- 44:03SPEAKER_01: Wait a minute.
- 44:03SPEAKER_01: Stop for a second.
- 44:04SPEAKER_01: I'll let you finish.
- 44:06SPEAKER_02: All right.
- 44:06Is this basically sucking the man's dick on every fucking side
- 44:10hobby he has?
- 44:11SPEAKER_02: Yes.
- 44:12SPEAKER_01: Well, he's the Chuck Norris of heavy metal.
- 44:14SPEAKER_02: He's not.
- 44:16SPEAKER_02: You know what?
- 44:16SPEAKER_02: You know what this last hour has told me?
- 44:19that the least gay band of all time in metal is the only one
- 44:24that has an actual gay guy in it.
- 44:27SPEAKER_02: Judas Priest.
- 44:29SPEAKER_02: Judas Priest doesn't have any of this bullshit.
- 44:32Rob Halford didn't propose to his boyfriend while swimming with
- 44:37whales or whatever,
- 44:39SPEAKER_02: or saving turtles.
- 44:40SPEAKER_01: Well, they did show him having that...
- 44:44wedding out in the desert you know they went out there with
- 44:48that priest and we
- 44:49covered that yeah but that's less gay than saving turtles and
- 44:55fucking swimming with
- 44:56sharks he just went out some goofy place to get married right
- 45:02he's less judas
- 45:03priest less gay than metallica and iron maiden after hearing
- 45:07this story yes or no
- 45:09Well,
- 45:09I don't know if this is so much gay as the writer is making it
- 45:13sound gay.
- 45:14SPEAKER_01: Maybe the writer's gay.
- 45:15SPEAKER_01: Maybe.
- 45:16SPEAKER_01: Maybe he's gay for Bruce Dickinson.
- 45:18SPEAKER_01: Might be.
- 45:18SPEAKER_01: Jesus Christ.
- 45:20SPEAKER_02: He wants that half a tongue licking his taint.
- 45:24bruce dickinson worked alongside england's robertson brewery in
- 45:292013 to formulate
- 45:30maiden signature the trooper ale whose uh sheer potency makes
- 45:35it virtually
- 45:36unneckable unneckable i'm not sure what that means should be
- 45:41undrinkable remember
- 45:42when we tried to drink that bullshit on the show yeah i have it
- 45:45i have it up here
- 45:46SPEAKER_01: on on the shelf it's gross
- 45:50SPEAKER_01: Bruce Dickinson is a tank owner.
- 45:53SPEAKER_01: He is a proud owner of a T-34 Soviet tank,
- 45:56SPEAKER_01: meaning he now makes as much noise on the road as he does on stage.
- 46:02SPEAKER_01: Are you fucking kidding me with this?
- 46:04SPEAKER_01: Number 10, he's beaten cancer.
- 46:07SPEAKER_01: Bruce Dickinson beat the shit out of his tongue cancer diagnosis,
- 46:11which he apparently contracted in the first place from eating
- 46:15too much maiden,
- 46:17SPEAKER_01: if you know what I mean.
- 46:22SPEAKER_01: And finally,
- 46:24SPEAKER_01: and all this after getting expelled from boarding school,
- 46:27Bruce Dickinson got kicked out after taking a piss on his
- 46:32headmaster soup.
- 46:34SPEAKER_01: Totally legit.
- 46:37SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
- 46:39SPEAKER_01: So there you are.
- 46:39SPEAKER_01: There's 11 reasons why Bruce Dickinson is the...
- 46:45SPEAKER_01: The Chuck Norris of heavy metal.
- 46:48SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 46:48SPEAKER_02: You know what?
- 46:49SPEAKER_02: If we're going to start playing this game, who's the new Chuck Norris?
- 46:51Then I'm glad Chuck's gone because I can't wait to hear why
- 46:56fucking Dennis DeYoung
- 46:58SPEAKER_02: is the Chuck Norris of sticks or whatever.
- 47:00SPEAKER_02: I mean,
- 47:00SPEAKER_02: Jesus Christ,
- 47:02anything to fucking make your $35 in whatever publication
- 47:07you're selling this shit
- 47:08SPEAKER_02: to.
- 47:09SPEAKER_02: God, that is fucking poor, dude.
- 47:12SPEAKER_02: What publication was this?
- 47:15SPEAKER_01: Take a look here real quick.
- 47:18SPEAKER_01: Let's see.
- 47:19SPEAKER_01: Where is it?
- 47:20SPEAKER_01: I shut it down.
- 47:23SPEAKER_02: That's not that important.
- 47:25SPEAKER_02: Gay fag quarterly.
- 47:29SPEAKER_01: This was done through a thing called Music Feeds.
- 47:37SPEAKER_01: Music Feeds.
- 47:38SPEAKER_01: Music Feeds.
- 47:40SPEAKER_02: All right.
- 47:42SPEAKER_02: Feeding on a load of fucking jizz on that one.
- 47:45SPEAKER_01: This was written by Emmy Mack.
- 47:48SPEAKER_02: Great job, Emmy.
- 47:50SPEAKER_02: You're wonderful.
- 47:52SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
- 47:54SPEAKER_01: All right.
- 47:55SPEAKER_01: Well, I think that'll wrap up the angry show tonight.
- 47:58SPEAKER_01: Chris is going to just go nasty away for the rest of the evening.
- 48:04SPEAKER_01: That's right.
- 48:06SPEAKER_02: Finish up my bullshit.
- 48:08SPEAKER_01: Well,
- 48:08I noticed this week as part of the archival shows that you've
- 48:12been re-releasing
- 48:17SPEAKER_01: that you released one of our favorite segments ever,
- 48:20SPEAKER_01: the Eddie Money and the Sandwich.
- 48:21SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 48:25SPEAKER_02: Is that the one with the kid interviewing him?
- 48:30SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 48:32SPEAKER_01: Who wouldn't want to take someone home tonight?
- 48:34SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 48:35SPEAKER_02: And he talks about his daughter being fat and everything.
- 48:38SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 48:39SPEAKER_02: Fat and she drinks too much.
- 48:41SPEAKER_02: Sure.
- 48:43SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that is a good one.
- 48:44SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
- 48:46SPEAKER_01: So with that in mind, the T cuz bra would like to hear some Eddie money.
- 48:53SPEAKER_02: All right.
- 48:54SPEAKER_01: And we'll use this one to take us out of the evening.
- 48:56SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 48:58SPEAKER_01: So we're going to leave you with Eddie money.
- 49:01SPEAKER_01: Give me some water.
- 49:03SPEAKER_02: Life for the taking.
- 49:04SPEAKER_02: Good shit.
- 49:06so there you are all right all right well we're gonna get out
- 49:09of here thanks for
- 49:10tuning in and be a part of the show and yada yada yada join us
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- 49:15support the show classicmetalshow.locals.com and sign up and
- 49:22you know help us out a
- 49:23SPEAKER_01: little bit yeah hook us up exactly
- 49:26SPEAKER_01: All right.
- 49:26SPEAKER_01: Well, we're going to get out of here.
- 49:28SPEAKER_01: Hopefully we will be back next Saturday and do this all over again.
- 49:33SPEAKER_01: So this is Neely along with my very good friend.
- 49:36SPEAKER_01: And we're out of here.
- 49:37SPEAKER_02: Bye kids.
- 50:33SPEAKER_01: From the pocket change release from Auto Man CA,
- 50:36SPEAKER_01: the name of that tune there is called One Half Hard.
- 50:39SPEAKER_01: And Chris,
- 50:40SPEAKER_01: I know you never talked to this guy before,
- 50:42but he's been a fan of the classic metal show since I met him
- 50:45about six years ago.
- 50:47SPEAKER_01: He's part of the Killer Dwarfs, and you know our good friend Russ, right?
- 50:54SPEAKER_03: Rusty Dwarf?
- 50:55Yeah,
- 50:56he's this good friend of mine still,
- 50:58which is rare for guys that have been
- 51:01SPEAKER_03: Touring in a band together for 25 years.
- 51:04SPEAKER_03: But, yeah, Russ and I are still really good friends.
- 51:07SPEAKER_01: Well,
- 51:08SPEAKER_01: as you heard,
- 51:09since Daryl can't wait for us to introduce him and had to jump
- 51:14in there and speak
- 51:15SPEAKER_01: for Chris.
- 51:16SPEAKER_03: Oh, I'm sorry.
- 51:18SPEAKER_03: Oh, you were talking to Chris.
- 51:19SPEAKER_03: I'm sorry.
- 51:22We want to welcome back to the classic metal show Daryl Dwarf
- 51:26of Auto Man.
- 51:27SPEAKER_03: Daryl Dwarf Miller.
- 51:29SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 51:29SPEAKER_03: My full name.
- 51:30SPEAKER_01: of Auto Man CA, the CA standing for Canada, of course.
- 51:36SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'll just clarify that.
- 51:38I know,
- 51:39you know,
- 51:39we talked about this six years ago now,
- 51:41which is,
- 51:42we'll get into that.
- 51:43SPEAKER_03: But the band, the band's called Auto Man.
- 51:47All the logos you'll ever see on this band will be Auto Man dot
- 51:50CA,
- 51:51which is the band's website.
- 51:53SPEAKER_03: And Neely, you're right, it stands for Auto Man Canada.
- 51:56SPEAKER_03: But really, it's just
- 51:58SPEAKER_03: you know,
- 51:59SPEAKER_03: that's on there for just really a legal purpose,
- 52:02SPEAKER_03: because there's a TV show called Auto Man that came out years ago,
- 52:05SPEAKER_03: and it just,
- 52:07SPEAKER_03: I kind of,
- 52:07SPEAKER_03: to use the name and kind of own the name,
- 52:10SPEAKER_03: just having the .ca,
- 52:11SPEAKER_03: which makes us Auto Man Canada,
- 52:13SPEAKER_03: just got rid of a lot of legal fees and different things for me.
- 52:16SPEAKER_03: And it also,
- 52:17SPEAKER_03: on Google searches and whatnot,
- 52:19SPEAKER_03: it splits apart the TV show from the band,
- 52:22SPEAKER_03: and that's important to me.
- 52:24SPEAKER_01: Wow, this is just like an episode of Behind the Music.
- 52:29SPEAKER_03: Yeah, behind the music, Neely style, and Chris, that is.
- 52:34SPEAKER_02: Very nice, Daryl.
- 52:36SPEAKER_02: Well,
- 52:36SPEAKER_02: Daryl,
- 52:37SPEAKER_02: obviously,
- 52:37SPEAKER_02: man,
- 52:37SPEAKER_02: Auto Man,
- 52:38SPEAKER_02: a very different project from what most people,
- 52:41SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 52:41SPEAKER_02: recognize you from,
- 52:42SPEAKER_02: that being the Killer Dwarfs.
- 52:44SPEAKER_02: And,
- 52:44SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 52:45SPEAKER_02: very,
- 52:46this is the kind of record I would expect to be doing shots of
- 52:50whiskey to while I
- 52:51SPEAKER_02: was in a bar somewhere,
- 52:53SPEAKER_02: just,
- 52:53SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 52:54SPEAKER_02: getting fucked up and having a good time.
- 52:55SPEAKER_02: Is that kind of what this is supposed to be for you guys?
- 52:59SPEAKER_03: Yes, it is.
- 53:00SPEAKER_03: You couldn't have coined it more nice there, Chris.
- 53:05SPEAKER_03: It's a driving, rocking type record.
- 53:10SPEAKER_03: I've had fans that have already purchased it pre-release.
- 53:15The CD does not come out until March 17th on Sony BMG,
- 53:21Megaforce actually in the States,
- 53:23but
- 53:25SPEAKER_03: It's released on the 17th,
- 53:26SPEAKER_03: but pre-orders and all that,
- 53:29SPEAKER_03: I made it available on my label,
- 53:31SPEAKER_03: Ongadunk Records,
- 53:32SPEAKER_03: as pre-orders,
- 53:33SPEAKER_03: and it sold some nice numbers for a good little start for me.
- 53:38And some of the fans have come back with such positive comments
- 53:44on the disc,
- 53:44SPEAKER_03: and the best ones are basically what,
- 53:47SPEAKER_03: Chris,
- 53:47SPEAKER_03: what you just said.
- 53:49SPEAKER_03: They get this feeling that when they drive in their car,
- 53:53SPEAKER_03: they like to listen to it,
- 53:54SPEAKER_03: driving around.
- 53:55SPEAKER_03: It's definitely backyard, patio, barbecue, summertime, rock and roll.
- 54:02SPEAKER_03: And they're loving it.
- 54:04SPEAKER_02: Well, it's definitely good stuff, man.
- 54:07SPEAKER_02: And the thing that's really cool about it is it's not just...
- 54:11SPEAKER_02: I mean,
- 54:11SPEAKER_02: I did a little bit of reading around some of the reviews,
- 54:14SPEAKER_02: and it seems like a lot of people are just bagging it as the,
- 54:18SPEAKER_02: well,
- 54:18SPEAKER_02: it's ACDC type stuff,
- 54:20SPEAKER_02: but it's really not.
- 54:21SPEAKER_02: I mean,
- 54:22SPEAKER_02: there's some songs that clearly remind you of that style,
- 54:24SPEAKER_02: but then there's stuff like Cinnamon Rain that's,
- 54:26SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 54:27SPEAKER_02: completely unique to this record.
- 54:31SPEAKER_02: Is that kind of how you see it as well?
- 54:33SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know...
- 54:35SPEAKER_03: I should get you to review my records everywhere.
- 54:37SPEAKER_03: You seem to have more of a handle on it.
- 54:40SPEAKER_03: I think,
- 54:41SPEAKER_03: you know,
- 54:42SPEAKER_03: nothing against...
- 54:43SPEAKER_03: I've only really read mostly positive reviews,
- 54:46SPEAKER_03: so I'm happy about that.
- 54:48SPEAKER_03: But I think a lot of these guys,
- 54:49SPEAKER_03: you know,
- 54:49that do review it probably don't have as much time to kind of
- 54:53get close to it,
- 54:54SPEAKER_03: so they'll listen to it once,
- 54:56SPEAKER_03: kind of get a grip on that,
- 54:57SPEAKER_03: and that's sort of what they write the review about.
- 54:59SPEAKER_03: Because if you do get into the discs,
- 55:02SPEAKER_03: it's not ACDC at all.
- 55:05SPEAKER_03: It's just very,
- 55:06SPEAKER_03: very bluesy,
- 55:07smoky blues-rooted rock and roll with a little bit of a
- 55:10southern feel to it.
- 55:11SPEAKER_03: Do you not agree?
- 55:13SPEAKER_02: Sure.
- 55:13SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 55:14SPEAKER_02: It's closer more to like a...
- 55:15SPEAKER_02: It's more like a rose tattoo type of a vibe than an ACDC type of a vibe.
- 55:21SPEAKER_02: It's not just rock for the sake of big rock sound, you know what I mean?
- 55:26SPEAKER_03: Right, right.
- 55:27SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean, you know, there's definitely... I mean, I am...
- 55:30SPEAKER_03: you know,
- 55:30SPEAKER_03: a fan of ACDC and all that,
- 55:32SPEAKER_03: but the writing of the record,
- 55:33SPEAKER_03: Carlton Lockhart is my writing partner,
- 55:35SPEAKER_03: and,
- 55:36SPEAKER_03: you know,
- 55:36SPEAKER_03: he's a Jeff Beck,
- 55:38SPEAKER_03: Rolling Stones fan,
- 55:39SPEAKER_03: mostly,
- 55:40SPEAKER_03: and,
- 55:41SPEAKER_03: you know,
- 55:41SPEAKER_03: and my flavors come as far as Ted Nugent and Johnny Winter,
- 55:45SPEAKER_03: you know,
- 55:46SPEAKER_03: so,
- 55:46SPEAKER_03: I mean,
- 55:47SPEAKER_03: it's not all about ACDC at all,
- 55:49SPEAKER_03: Otto,
- 55:49SPEAKER_03: man,
- 55:50SPEAKER_03: it's just really,
- 55:51SPEAKER_03: I won't deny that it's not
- 55:54derived from 70s music though and I do admit that I grew up in
- 55:59the 70s and my
- 56:00favorite bands were 70s rock bands and it's as simple as that
- 56:04everything from Alice
- 56:04Cooper to Aerosmith and ACDC and Foghat and Brush and Kiss and
- 56:10I can go on and on
- 56:11and those bands were my favorite bands and I mean I've seen Ted
- 56:14Nugent probably 8
- 56:15times actually the head of TSN the sports network has our disc
- 56:20and he hears it as
- 56:21SPEAKER_03: Ted Nugent the whole record
- 56:24SPEAKER_03: That was his evaluation of it.
- 56:26SPEAKER_03: So I think everybody just hears something of their own into this.
- 56:30SPEAKER_03: It's pretty strange to me.
- 56:33But I'm getting a lot of positive feedback from it,
- 56:37and I'm very excited about that.
- 56:40SPEAKER_03: I did finally get the right message.
- 56:43deal for for the disc as neil and i were talking off air it's
- 56:46taken me six years
- 56:47people think this is like wow you know great you put this band
- 56:50together and here
- 56:51you are records coming out first records coming out in march
- 56:55but it's a six-year
- 56:56toil to get to get the big distribution and get it all
- 57:00happening and get it out
- 57:02SPEAKER_01: Well,
- 57:02SPEAKER_01: Daryl,
- 57:03SPEAKER_01: as I'm sure you're well aware of being in the business,
- 57:06SPEAKER_01: as you have been,
- 57:07SPEAKER_01: and the fact that traditional rock and roll,
- 57:11SPEAKER_01: guitar-driven,
- 57:12SPEAKER_01: testosterone-driven rock and roll often attracts a male audience,
- 57:19SPEAKER_01: a lot of artists like yourself,
- 57:20SPEAKER_01: I'm sure,
- 57:21SPEAKER_01: is interested in trying to attract maybe the female audience as well.
- 57:25SPEAKER_01: Would that be correct?
- 57:27SPEAKER_03: You know what?
- 57:28SPEAKER_03: I'll take as many females as I can get.
- 57:30SPEAKER_01: I mean,
- 57:32I did some big tours with Motley Crue back in 2000 when I was
- 57:37drumming in this
- 57:38SPEAKER_03: southern rock band called Laidlaw that I was in,
- 57:41SPEAKER_03: that Nikki had actually signed,
- 57:43SPEAKER_03: and that's all in the press.
- 57:44SPEAKER_03: Everybody knows I was in Laidlaw for seven years after the Killer Dwarfs.
- 57:48SPEAKER_03: I mean, Motley Crue is a girl band.
- 57:51SPEAKER_03: Half their audience is all women.
- 57:53SPEAKER_03: And, you know,
- 57:55SPEAKER_03: I think like a track like cinnamon rain,
- 57:59SPEAKER_03: uh,
- 57:59SPEAKER_03: which was mentioned earlier as well,
- 58:01SPEAKER_03: uh,
- 58:01that females are gravitating towards that one track and they
- 58:05love that track.
- 58:06SPEAKER_03: And when I go out and play shows,
- 58:08SPEAKER_03: I'm not seeing that it's an all male audience coming to my shows.
- 58:12SPEAKER_03: It's, it's almost reminds me of the crew a bit.
- 58:13It's a bit of a mixed bag,
- 58:15you know,
- 58:16guys in my band are pretty good looking guys.
- 58:18SPEAKER_03: And, you know, they're a little younger than I am.
- 58:20SPEAKER_03: And, uh,
- 58:23SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
- 58:23SPEAKER_03: Let's see what happens.
- 58:24SPEAKER_03: We've yet to really do a tour.
- 58:26SPEAKER_03: You know,
- 58:27SPEAKER_03: this is going to be the first for us to get out and tour North America,
- 58:30SPEAKER_03: which is all in the works right now.
- 58:32SPEAKER_03: And,
- 58:33SPEAKER_03: you know,
- 58:33SPEAKER_03: the bands really only played or performed about 40 shows,
- 58:40SPEAKER_03: and they've all been in Canada.
- 58:41SPEAKER_03: We haven't been to the U.S.
- 58:42SPEAKER_03: yet.
- 58:43SPEAKER_03: So it's really, after this CD gets out, you know, I...
- 58:47SPEAKER_03: I don't know what's going to happen, guys.
- 58:49I don't know what my audience is going to be,
- 58:51really,
- 58:52or the demographic of it.
- 58:53SPEAKER_03: I don't know if it's going to be mixed bag or what.
- 58:55SPEAKER_01: Well, Darrell, I've got a marketing idea for you.
- 58:58SPEAKER_01: Perhaps when you do do distribution with this,
- 59:02SPEAKER_01: maybe you could slap a sticker on there that says,
- 59:05SPEAKER_01: a good CD to perform fellatio to.
- 59:10SPEAKER_03: Do you think that would work?
- 59:11SPEAKER_03: And then we'll use, we'll pick the track even.
- 59:14SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we'll put cinnamon rain.
- 59:15SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 59:16SPEAKER_03: The favorite one.
- 59:17SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 59:17SPEAKER_01: I'm always thinking.
- 59:18SPEAKER_01: Just marketing, marketing.
- 59:19SPEAKER_01: That's important.
- 59:21SPEAKER_03: Man, I should have you on my team.
- 59:22SPEAKER_03: You're a genius.
- 59:25SPEAKER_01: Well,
- 59:26SPEAKER_01: Daryl,
- 59:27SPEAKER_01: people know you,
- 59:28SPEAKER_01: obviously,
- 59:29SPEAKER_01: from the killer dwarves,
- 59:30SPEAKER_01: and you're out there trying to make a name for yourself with AutoMan.ca.
- 59:36SPEAKER_03: You can just call it AutoMan.
- 59:38SPEAKER_01: Well, I don't want to get sued.
- 59:40SPEAKER_01: I don't want a copyright infringement here.
- 59:43SPEAKER_01: Just playing it safe.
- 59:44SPEAKER_01: I'm just trying to play it safe.
- 59:45SPEAKER_01: Just playing it safe.
- 59:46SPEAKER_01: So what is the status of the doors?
- 59:50Are you guys pretty much done or just on hiatus or you could
- 59:54roll that machine out
- 59:55SPEAKER_01: anytime you feel necessary or what's the deal?
- 59:59SPEAKER_03: Well, really what the deal is, is we kind of did that reunion in 2002.
- 1:00:06SPEAKER_03: We toured North America.
- 1:00:07SPEAKER_03: You know, we did it for the fans.
- 1:00:10SPEAKER_03: We got the original band back together.
- 1:00:13I did that live DVD up here in Toronto and the CD,
- 1:00:16live CD,
- 1:00:17which is out selling.
- 1:00:19SPEAKER_03: But you know what?
- 1:00:20SPEAKER_03: We never really...
- 1:00:21SPEAKER_03: We started dabbling and writing new songs,
- 1:00:24SPEAKER_03: and we never really wrote a new record.
- 1:00:27SPEAKER_03: So without that, there's really no future of a band, in my opinion.
- 1:00:32I mean,
- 1:00:33it's not like the Killer Dwarfs would go forward without a new
- 1:00:36record.
- 1:00:37SPEAKER_03: That seemed to be the progression I would see happening.
- 1:00:40You've heard me grill your favorite rock stars for 30 years on
- 1:00:44the Classic Metal
- 1:00:45SPEAKER_02: Show in Chris Akin Presents.
- 1:00:47SPEAKER_02: Now it's time to put me to work for you.
- 1:00:50SPEAKER_02: That's right.
- 1:00:52SPEAKER_02: I am officially on Cameo,
- 1:00:54SPEAKER_02: and I'm bringing that same unfiltered,
- 1:00:56SPEAKER_02: high-octane energy to your personal messages.
- 1:01:00SPEAKER_02: No fluff, no corporate scripts, just the raw truth.
- 1:01:04SPEAKER_02: Whether you need to roast a buddy for his terrible taste in music,
- 1:01:08SPEAKER_02: wish a fellow metalhead a brutal birthday,
- 1:01:11SPEAKER_02: or get a personalized shout-out that actually has some grit,
- 1:01:14SPEAKER_02: I have got you covered.
- 1:01:17SPEAKER_02: Stop sending boring cards.
- 1:01:19SPEAKER_02: Send a message they'll actually remember.
- 1:01:22Head on over to cameo.com and just do a search for my name,
- 1:01:27Chris Akin,
- 1:01:27A-K-I-N.
- 1:01:28SPEAKER_02: Let's make something legendary.
- 1:01:30SPEAKER_02: Get some CMS personalized.
- 1:01:34SPEAKER_03: And I just think it just wasn't meant to be.
- 1:01:36SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
- 1:01:38SPEAKER_03: We got out and did it,
- 1:01:39and then there was some internal things that were starting to
- 1:01:43feel like the old
- 1:01:44SPEAKER_03: dwarfs,
- 1:01:44SPEAKER_03: and it kind of just ran its course with us,
- 1:01:48SPEAKER_03: and we didn't even break up again or anything.
- 1:01:50SPEAKER_03: We just stopped doing dates.
- 1:01:52SPEAKER_03: And I had this Auto Man thing going six years ago, as you know.
- 1:01:56SPEAKER_03: And I had just come back from L.A.
- 1:01:58SPEAKER_03: after being in Laidlaw to get back into Killer Dwarfs.
- 1:02:01And we kind of went into it with the attitude that it was going
- 1:02:04to be a temporary
- 1:02:05SPEAKER_03: thing,
- 1:02:06SPEAKER_03: you know.
- 1:02:07SPEAKER_03: And so, you know, I don't see the dwarfs touring again with that lineup.
- 1:02:13SPEAKER_03: I don't see us touring again actually at all.
- 1:02:16SPEAKER_03: And Russ is in an old band called Moxie.
- 1:02:20SPEAKER_03: He's the lead singer in that band now.
- 1:02:22SPEAKER_03: And he's come back now and has a few projects going on himself now.
- 1:02:26So between myself and Russ,
- 1:02:29we're both in new projects that are long-term things.
- 1:02:32SPEAKER_03: I mean, Auto Man, to me, is a 10-year projection.
- 1:02:37SPEAKER_03: You know, I've made a drastic change in my career.
- 1:02:40SPEAKER_03: I'm now a front man.
- 1:02:41SPEAKER_03: I'm a lead singer.
- 1:02:42SPEAKER_03: I'm off the drums.
- 1:02:44SPEAKER_03: Singer, songwriter, it's a whole new world for me as a musician.
- 1:02:49I mean,
- 1:02:49I still play drums,
- 1:02:50and I do drum in one song a night,
- 1:02:53live at Auto Man.
- 1:02:54We have this big double kit,
- 1:02:56and I get up and play one song with my drummer.
- 1:02:58SPEAKER_03: We do an instrumental thing.
- 1:02:59SPEAKER_03: It's fun.
- 1:03:00SPEAKER_03: It's really fun.
- 1:03:01SPEAKER_01: Well, congratulations on your successful rehab.
- 1:03:06SPEAKER_03: There you go, buddy.
- 1:03:07SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so that's what I'm doing.
- 1:03:10SPEAKER_01: Glad to see you're off the drums now and on to, you know, mics.
- 1:03:14SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 1:03:15SPEAKER_03: Well, you know, again, you just don't all of a sudden become a singer.
- 1:03:19SPEAKER_03: I've always been a singer.
- 1:03:22SPEAKER_03: I mean, I was a singer-drummer in my very first band when I met Russ.
- 1:03:27SPEAKER_03: Kind of the Don Henley, kind of Gilmore, whatever you want to say.
- 1:03:31I was singing 18 songs a night from the kit in that very first
- 1:03:34band I was in
- 1:03:34SPEAKER_03: before,
- 1:03:35SPEAKER_03: The Killer Dwarfs.
- 1:03:36SPEAKER_03: And when Russ and I put the dwarfs together,
- 1:03:37SPEAKER_03: I was contemplating being a frontman then,
- 1:03:41SPEAKER_03: and he kind of talked me out of it and said,
- 1:03:42SPEAKER_03: let's put a band together.
- 1:03:44SPEAKER_03: And that's how it happened.
- 1:03:45And I'm glad he did talk me out of it,
- 1:03:47but now I'm living it now,
- 1:03:49you know.
- 1:03:50SPEAKER_03: Never say never.
- 1:03:52SPEAKER_02: Well,
- 1:03:52SPEAKER_02: Daryl,
- 1:03:53SPEAKER_02: doing a new project now versus back in the old days,
- 1:03:56SPEAKER_02: I mean,
- 1:03:57SPEAKER_02: clearly back in the old days,
- 1:03:58SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 1:03:59SPEAKER_02: major label throws a big check at you and then you go out and,
- 1:04:02SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 1:04:03SPEAKER_02: try and earn the money back that they wrote for you.
- 1:04:05SPEAKER_02: But,
- 1:04:06SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 1:04:07SPEAKER_02: it's a different animal these days with,
- 1:04:10SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 1:04:10SPEAKER_02: downloading and everything else that goes on.
- 1:04:15How difficult is it now to break a band where a lot of people's
- 1:04:20perception is that
- 1:04:21SPEAKER_02: recorded music should be free in the first place?
- 1:04:24SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 1:04:25SPEAKER_03: Well, it's very different, that's for sure.
- 1:04:28SPEAKER_03: And that's why I approached it completely different.
- 1:04:32SPEAKER_03: I mean, it starts with the Internet, really.
- 1:04:34SPEAKER_03: You know, I kind of embraced the Net in 1999.
- 1:04:39I actually took a lot of graphic design courses and ended up
- 1:04:43becoming kind of a
- 1:04:44SPEAKER_03: digital design guy.
- 1:04:47I started my own record label and I started wearing all the
- 1:04:51hats that came with it.
- 1:04:52SPEAKER_03: I knew it was going to be insane to try to do that,
- 1:04:56SPEAKER_03: but the internet does allow a band to be pretty self-supportive as well.
- 1:05:01SPEAKER_03: And I just built that label,
- 1:05:04SPEAKER_03: Uncle Dunk Records,
- 1:05:05up and did everything myself from all the graphic designing and
- 1:05:09web design to now
- 1:05:11SPEAKER_03: it's at the stage where I'm the guy.
- 1:05:13SPEAKER_03: I manufacture all the records.
- 1:05:15SPEAKER_03: I do it all.
- 1:05:17SPEAKER_03: But I don't.
- 1:05:18SPEAKER_03: I mean, a company manufacturer, but I mean, I'm the record label now.
- 1:05:22SPEAKER_03: And you know what?
- 1:05:24SPEAKER_03: What comes along with that is spending a lot of money.
- 1:05:27SPEAKER_03: I mean, this pocket change record, I financed it, and it wasn't cheap.
- 1:05:31SPEAKER_03: It was mastered at Sterling Sound in New York.
- 1:05:34I had Greg Looper from Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers came in
- 1:05:38and mixed it and co-produced.
- 1:05:40SPEAKER_03: It was recorded in four studios,
- 1:05:43SPEAKER_03: two in America and two in Canada,
- 1:05:45SPEAKER_03: and I didn't fool around with it.
- 1:05:47SPEAKER_03: And,
- 1:05:48SPEAKER_03: you know,
- 1:05:48SPEAKER_03: for an indie-type record,
- 1:05:50SPEAKER_03: it has a quality production quality of a major label,
- 1:05:54SPEAKER_03: and
- 1:05:55SPEAKER_03: You know,
- 1:05:55SPEAKER_03: Pro Tools and all these new toys that we now have,
- 1:05:59SPEAKER_03: recording records,
- 1:06:00SPEAKER_03: can help cut your budget a bit.
- 1:06:02But at the end of the day,
- 1:06:03you know,
- 1:06:05you still have to get really good drum sounds.
- 1:06:07SPEAKER_03: You still have to find a studio that has that drum room.
- 1:06:11SPEAKER_03: And time is money,
- 1:06:13and you still got to take your drummer in there and track those
- 1:06:16tracks over a
- 1:06:16SPEAKER_03: period of days.
- 1:06:17SPEAKER_03: And, you know, you can only cut corners so much.
- 1:06:21SPEAKER_03: You know,
- 1:06:21SPEAKER_03: Neely,
- 1:06:22SPEAKER_03: when I first came on your show six years ago,
- 1:06:24SPEAKER_03: I brought that calling card,
- 1:06:26SPEAKER_03: that little EP that I had,
- 1:06:28SPEAKER_03: right?
- 1:06:29SPEAKER_01: And I still have it, as a matter of fact.
- 1:06:32SPEAKER_03: Right, so you remember Porno Queen and all that.
- 1:06:34SPEAKER_03: Well, I told you exactly what I was doing with that.
- 1:06:36SPEAKER_03: It was a calling card.
- 1:06:38SPEAKER_03: It was a demo-ish type EP.
- 1:06:41SPEAKER_03: I was proud of the songs that Carlton and I had come up with,
- 1:06:46SPEAKER_03: and that was in our infancy of our writing season.
- 1:06:48together and we've come a long way since that but I you know I
- 1:06:53only went into it
- 1:06:55you know not investing thousands of dollars because I really
- 1:06:58didn't know how I was
- 1:06:59going to be received and that's why I called the test drive
- 1:07:02times 5 disc a test
- 1:07:04drive I wanted to see how I would be received by you guys
- 1:07:09really in the media and
- 1:07:10what not and lucky for me it wasn't it wasn't totally negative
- 1:07:15it was more like wow
- 1:07:17SPEAKER_03: I mean you can sing
- 1:07:18SPEAKER_03: And that's got me to here now.
- 1:07:20SPEAKER_03: So that's your answer with that, Chris.
- 1:07:23SPEAKER_01: Well,
- 1:07:24SPEAKER_01: going back to a comment you made there,
- 1:07:26SPEAKER_01: Daryl,
- 1:07:26SPEAKER_01: about wearing a lot of hats,
- 1:07:28I was wondering if perhaps you may have felt some kinship with
- 1:07:33now-deceased Leonard
- 1:07:35SPEAKER_01: Skinner bassist Leon Wilkinson.
- 1:07:40SPEAKER_03: You know, I love that you said that.
- 1:07:41SPEAKER_03: Because, like, I don't know if you realize, but that Laidlaw band, okay?
- 1:07:46SPEAKER_03: I keep going back to that.
- 1:07:47SPEAKER_03: This band,
- 1:07:48SPEAKER_03: Laidlaw,
- 1:07:48SPEAKER_03: that I was in for Southern California,
- 1:07:50SPEAKER_03: we toured with Skinner and ZZ Top and Motley and Scorpions.
- 1:07:56SPEAKER_03: We did some great tours in 1999 and 2001 to 2001 in America.
- 1:08:02SPEAKER_03: And Leon Wilkson became a good friend of mine,
- 1:08:05SPEAKER_03: and he actually,
- 1:08:07SPEAKER_03: God rest his soul now,
- 1:08:09SPEAKER_03: he's passed away a few years ago,
- 1:08:10SPEAKER_03: but
- 1:08:11SPEAKER_03: On the last night of one of the tours,
- 1:08:13SPEAKER_03: he looked over at me,
- 1:08:15SPEAKER_03: and I was standing in the wings,
- 1:08:17SPEAKER_03: and he wears his bobby hat.
- 1:08:19SPEAKER_03: He wears a lot of different hats,
- 1:08:21SPEAKER_03: as you know,
- 1:08:21SPEAKER_03: and he has his bobby hat that he'd had for 20 years or longer.
- 1:08:25SPEAKER_03: And he took that hat off,
- 1:08:27SPEAKER_03: and he launched it at me,
- 1:08:28SPEAKER_03: side stage,
- 1:08:29SPEAKER_03: and I'd barely seen it coming at me because of the lights.
- 1:08:31SPEAKER_03: But I'd seen it at the last minute, and I caught the hat.
- 1:08:35And then I was going to give it to his hat roadie,
- 1:08:37which he has a guy,
- 1:08:38actually.
- 1:08:38SPEAKER_03: It has a big trunk of hats there.
- 1:08:40And the guy looked at me,
- 1:08:41and he shook his head,
- 1:08:42and I was trying to give it to him.
- 1:08:43SPEAKER_03: He shook his head, and he goes, no, man.
- 1:08:45SPEAKER_03: I go, what?
- 1:08:46SPEAKER_03: What's going on?
- 1:08:47SPEAKER_03: He goes, Leon just threw that.
- 1:08:48SPEAKER_03: He gave you that hat.
- 1:08:50SPEAKER_03: And I went, what?
- 1:08:51SPEAKER_03: You're kidding me.
- 1:08:53SPEAKER_03: And I couldn't believe it.
- 1:08:54SPEAKER_03: Leon gave me that hat on the last night of the tour,
- 1:08:58SPEAKER_03: and he autographed it,
- 1:08:59SPEAKER_03: and I still have it here.
- 1:09:01SPEAKER_03: The guys in Skynyrd were going, you better not sell that hat.
- 1:09:05SPEAKER_03: I'm like, why would I do that?
- 1:09:07SPEAKER_01: Go ahead.
- 1:09:10No,
- 1:09:10so I'm just saying that's a very special piece of rock and roll
- 1:09:14memorabilia that I own.
- 1:09:15SPEAKER_03: I own a lot of different pieces, but that one.
- 1:09:18SPEAKER_03: And to answer your question, I didn't want to get sidetracked.
- 1:09:20SPEAKER_03: Yes, I do wear some hats, a couple on stage.
- 1:09:23SPEAKER_03: I have this big red top hat,
- 1:09:25SPEAKER_03: kind of velvet-crushed English-looking top hat,
- 1:09:28SPEAKER_03: and that's became a bit of a showpiece with me.
- 1:09:30SPEAKER_03: I really only wear it in one song a night,
- 1:09:33SPEAKER_03: and I wear some cowboy hats on and off,
- 1:09:36SPEAKER_03: but that's really it.
- 1:09:36SPEAKER_03: But it has become a part of my frontman look
- 1:09:40SPEAKER_03: So I didn't get that from Leon.
- 1:09:42SPEAKER_03: No, I just, I don't know.
- 1:09:44They started calling me the cat in the hat kind of thing,
- 1:09:46and I just,
- 1:09:47that hat was cool.
- 1:09:49SPEAKER_03: It's a custom-made hat, and it just became a showpiece.
- 1:09:52SPEAKER_03: I mean, I just think a band should put on a rock show, that's all.
- 1:09:57SPEAKER_03: So I dress,
- 1:09:57SPEAKER_03: you know,
- 1:09:58SPEAKER_03: with some stage clothes and whatnot,
- 1:10:00SPEAKER_03: and I just go the extra mile,
- 1:10:02SPEAKER_03: you know.
- 1:10:02SPEAKER_03: I've got a nice back line built now, and I just,
- 1:10:06SPEAKER_03: I just believe that fans deserve more of a show.
- 1:10:09SPEAKER_03: I mean,
- 1:10:09SPEAKER_03: I still go see these bands,
- 1:10:11SPEAKER_03: some of these new bands,
- 1:10:12SPEAKER_03: and I won't name any names,
- 1:10:13but I swear they're still just standing there in T-shirts and
- 1:10:17jeans looking at
- 1:10:18SPEAKER_03: their shoes,
- 1:10:19SPEAKER_03: kind of the way the grunge thing was.
- 1:10:21I mean,
- 1:10:21I've went and seen a lot of new bands lately that have big
- 1:10:24deals that are out touring.
- 1:10:26SPEAKER_03: Do you agree with me?
- 1:10:27SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
- 1:10:28SPEAKER_01: Well, Daryl, would you ever consider wearing a miter on stage?
- 1:10:32SPEAKER_01: No.
- 1:10:34SPEAKER_03: I don't know, maybe.
- 1:10:36SPEAKER_01: Or perhaps you could wear it sideways like a rally cap.
- 1:10:40SPEAKER_03: There you go.
- 1:10:42Well,
- 1:10:42if I get bored of the two I wear now,
- 1:10:44I'm going to credit you with that one.
- 1:10:46SPEAKER_03: If you ever see me out there with one, you get full credit.
- 1:10:50SPEAKER_03: Sure.
- 1:10:50SPEAKER_02: Well,
- 1:10:51SPEAKER_02: Daryl,
- 1:10:52SPEAKER_02: in a lot of reviews that I see out there,
- 1:10:54SPEAKER_02: your vocals take a lot of comparison to...
- 1:10:58SPEAKER_02: To Ted Nugent's material, would you consider yourself a Derek St.
- 1:11:03SPEAKER_02: Holmes type or a Charlie Hewn type?
- 1:11:05SPEAKER_03: I think I've got a bit of Derek in me.
- 1:11:09SPEAKER_03: I use my range.
- 1:11:13SPEAKER_03: You'll see a wide range on that record.
- 1:11:16SPEAKER_03: From a song like Mildog Blues that has that low kind of register,
- 1:11:20SPEAKER_03: but then it goes high in the breaks,
- 1:11:23SPEAKER_03: which is kind of that Derek St.
- 1:11:26SPEAKER_03: Holmes tone.
- 1:11:28SPEAKER_03: And also, you'll just hear it throughout the CD.
- 1:11:31SPEAKER_03: I know what people are talking about.
- 1:11:32SPEAKER_03: I do little breaks, like in that song, Give an Inch, Take a Mile.
- 1:11:35SPEAKER_03: There's this crazy laugh in it.
- 1:11:37SPEAKER_03: That register is that stranglehold register.
- 1:11:41SPEAKER_03: It's up there.
- 1:11:43SPEAKER_03: And it's pretty clean, too.
- 1:11:45SPEAKER_03: So also,
- 1:11:46SPEAKER_03: I get that Bon Scott kind of because of that,
- 1:11:48SPEAKER_03: too,
- 1:11:48SPEAKER_03: because of that clean kind of high pitch.
- 1:11:53SPEAKER_03: I get compared to Bon quite a bit, but...
- 1:11:56SPEAKER_03: I'm glad to get away from that,
- 1:11:58SPEAKER_03: because if you listen to Test Drive x 5 from six years ago,
- 1:12:02SPEAKER_03: it's undeniable I don't sound a lot like Bon Scott.
- 1:12:06SPEAKER_03: The real reason for that,
- 1:12:07SPEAKER_03: and I'll be completely honest,
- 1:12:08SPEAKER_03: I had a Bon Scott tribute band together before I put Auto Man together,
- 1:12:13SPEAKER_03: just to get my chops together.
- 1:12:15SPEAKER_03: I put this band together.
- 1:12:17It was a tribute to Bon Scott,
- 1:12:19and we did about 35 clubs up here in Canada.
- 1:12:23SPEAKER_03: And that's all I did.
- 1:12:24I just put it together just so I could get out and sing three
- 1:12:27sets a night.
- 1:12:28SPEAKER_03: And it was all AC, DC, Bond, Scott, which is challenging to sing.
- 1:12:34And if I could get through that,
- 1:12:35I figured I could move on and do the original thing.
- 1:12:38So I think when I tracked Test Drive x5,
- 1:12:42I was really mentally in the AC,
- 1:12:44DC headspace.
- 1:12:47SPEAKER_03: I'm glad that I've got away from that.
- 1:12:49SPEAKER_03: And as the co-producer that worked on my record,
- 1:12:52SPEAKER_03: Greg Looper,
- 1:12:52SPEAKER_03: with me,
- 1:12:53SPEAKER_03: he said,
- 1:12:54SPEAKER_03: you know,
- 1:12:54SPEAKER_03: this record here,
- 1:12:55SPEAKER_03: Pocket Change,
- 1:12:56SPEAKER_03: this is Daryl singing for the first time.
- 1:12:59SPEAKER_03: This is really you.
- 1:13:00SPEAKER_03: This is your voice.
- 1:13:02SPEAKER_03: So I'm just...
- 1:13:03SPEAKER_03: I'm really stoked about that.
- 1:13:04SPEAKER_01: Well,
- 1:13:05SPEAKER_01: just for the record,
- 1:13:05SPEAKER_01: Daryl,
- 1:13:06I'm sure there are a lot of 70s groupies out there that had a
- 1:13:10little Derek in them
- 1:13:11SPEAKER_01: as well,
- 1:13:11SPEAKER_01: so just to let you know.
- 1:13:15SPEAKER_03: I bet.
- 1:13:16SPEAKER_03: I have to agree with you.
- 1:13:17SPEAKER_03: I'm sure there is.
- 1:13:21SPEAKER_03: You put it so well, Neely.
- 1:13:23SPEAKER_01: Aren't you glad you came on the show tonight?
- 1:13:26SPEAKER_03: You're making my night, man.
- 1:13:27SPEAKER_03: I'm having a great time.
- 1:13:29SPEAKER_03: I needed some cheering up.
- 1:13:30SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
- 1:13:30SPEAKER_03: I've been working too hard on this damn record.
- 1:13:33SPEAKER_03: This administrative stuff is driving me nuts.
- 1:13:37SPEAKER_02: Sure.
- 1:13:38SPEAKER_02: Well,
- 1:13:38SPEAKER_02: Daryl,
- 1:13:38SPEAKER_02: I mean,
- 1:13:38SPEAKER_02: obviously doing Auto Man,
- 1:13:40SPEAKER_02: very different from what you were doing,
- 1:13:41SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 1:13:42SPEAKER_02: both with Laidlaw and with Killer Dwarves.
- 1:13:45SPEAKER_02: Is it easier or harder for you to be...
- 1:13:49SPEAKER_02: You know,
- 1:13:50SPEAKER_02: the leader,
- 1:13:50SPEAKER_02: and by saying that,
- 1:13:52SPEAKER_02: I mean,
- 1:13:52SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 1:13:53SPEAKER_02: obviously when it's your project,
- 1:13:54SPEAKER_02: you can have a lot more,
- 1:13:56you can lend a lot more direction to the songwriting and the
- 1:14:00style and the music
- 1:14:01SPEAKER_02: playing and everything,
- 1:14:02SPEAKER_02: whereas the drummer,
- 1:14:03SPEAKER_02: you just kind of take somebody else's songs a lot of times.
- 1:14:06SPEAKER_02: I mean,
- 1:14:06SPEAKER_02: you certainly add some of your own feel to it,
- 1:14:09SPEAKER_02: but for the most part,
- 1:14:10SPEAKER_02: you're playing against what the other person's idea was.
- 1:14:14SPEAKER_02: Is it different?
- 1:14:15SPEAKER_02: Is it easier, harder, or more comfortable, or what?
- 1:14:18SPEAKER_03: Well, great question.
- 1:14:21SPEAKER_03: Really,
- 1:14:22SPEAKER_03: throughout the Killer Dwarfs career,
- 1:14:25SPEAKER_03: I took a real role in the leader part of that band,
- 1:14:30SPEAKER_03: as in I was politically involved with decision-making,
- 1:14:33SPEAKER_03: with management and all that.
- 1:14:34I was really close to that,
- 1:14:35and I've always had that kind of attitude in rock-roll.
- 1:14:39SPEAKER_03: I'm more of a businessman, really.
- 1:14:41SPEAKER_03: I mean,
- 1:14:41I've always had my ear to the ground and knew everything that
- 1:14:44was happening in my
- 1:14:45SPEAKER_03: career business-wise.
- 1:14:47Writing-wise,
- 1:14:48you know,
- 1:14:49I've always been not the main writer in those bands.
- 1:14:52SPEAKER_03: You know, Russ and Mike were the main writers in The Dwarfs.
- 1:14:55SPEAKER_03: I was more of an arranger in that band.
- 1:14:57So this is a good question you're asking me because this is why
- 1:15:00I am so fulfilled
- 1:15:02SPEAKER_03: now as a player because I am a singer-songwriter now for the first time.
- 1:15:08SPEAKER_03: And that is a giant hat to wear, you know.
- 1:15:12SPEAKER_03: And if you put out a record and those songs are...
- 1:15:16SPEAKER_03: are not that strong,
- 1:15:17SPEAKER_03: then you're the one that created those bad songs,
- 1:15:20SPEAKER_03: and you're the one that takes the fall,
- 1:15:22SPEAKER_03: and you're the one that'll take the criticism.
- 1:15:25SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
- 1:15:27SPEAKER_03: I mean,
- 1:15:29SPEAKER_03: it's really an awesome feeling,
- 1:15:31SPEAKER_03: and like I said,
- 1:15:33SPEAKER_03: there's no,
- 1:15:34SPEAKER_03: you know,
- 1:15:34SPEAKER_03: there's no,
- 1:15:36SPEAKER_03: we're a band,
- 1:15:37SPEAKER_03: it's not just me.
- 1:15:39SPEAKER_03: There's no I, and I'm not the whole band.
- 1:15:43SPEAKER_03: I mean, I share it with the other three members,
- 1:15:46SPEAKER_03: And Carlton is definitely 50%,
- 1:15:48SPEAKER_03: you know,
- 1:15:50SPEAKER_03: hands down,
- 1:15:51SPEAKER_03: of the writer of Auto Man,
- 1:15:52SPEAKER_03: lyrics and music.
- 1:15:54SPEAKER_03: So we share the writing 50%.
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- 1:17:39SPEAKER_03: You know, I have a lot of help here.
- 1:17:40SPEAKER_03: It's not just me alone.
- 1:17:42SPEAKER_03: Put it that way.
- 1:17:44SPEAKER_03: It's been hard but beautiful.
- 1:17:46SPEAKER_01: Put it that way.
- 1:17:49SPEAKER_01: Well,
- 1:17:49SPEAKER_01: as cordial and humble as you come off there,
- 1:17:52SPEAKER_01: Daryl,
- 1:17:52SPEAKER_01: it would have never occurred to me what a glory hound you are.
- 1:18:00SPEAKER_03: So this is the straight guy versus you two guys, eh?
- 1:18:06SPEAKER_03: I love that.
- 1:18:10SPEAKER_03: I had trouble getting that out even.
- 1:18:12SPEAKER_03: It was so much bullshit.
- 1:18:14SPEAKER_03: It's hard for me to say that, Neely.
- 1:18:16Well,
- 1:18:16it's not even close to the whipping Russ took when he was here
- 1:18:19in the studio.
- 1:18:20SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'll have to get a copy of that.
- 1:18:23SPEAKER_03: Would you send me that?
- 1:18:25SPEAKER_03: I know.
- 1:18:26SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
- 1:18:27Well,
- 1:18:29Daryl,
- 1:18:29the new CD called Pocket Change from Auto Man,
- 1:18:33and it is a solid CD.
- 1:18:36SPEAKER_01: It's a long time in coming.
- 1:18:38SPEAKER_01: I know you're very proud of it.
- 1:18:39SPEAKER_01: I can hear the pride in your voice and just talking about it.
- 1:18:44Is there anything else about this CD that we haven't touched on
- 1:18:48that you'd like
- 1:18:48SPEAKER_01: fans to know about?
- 1:18:52SPEAKER_03: Well, not really, except that it's
- 1:18:57SPEAKER_03: I produced it, and then I brought in Greg Looper to help me co-produce.
- 1:19:03The best thing I can tell fans about this CD is that I could
- 1:19:07have went in,
- 1:19:08SPEAKER_03: and you guys will be interested in this too,
- 1:19:11SPEAKER_03: I really could have went in and produced the shit out of this record.
- 1:19:14SPEAKER_03: I could have went in and multi-tracked guitars for days.
- 1:19:18SPEAKER_03: I could have done vocal overdubs and take after take,
- 1:19:23SPEAKER_03: and I could have spent so much more time on the disc.
- 1:19:26SPEAKER_03: But
- 1:19:27I really wanted this pocket change CD to be able to be
- 1:19:32performed live by my band to the bone.
- 1:19:36It was very important to me that we could go recreate the feel
- 1:19:40of that record and
- 1:19:41SPEAKER_03: sound of that record,
- 1:19:42SPEAKER_03: including all the backing vocals,
- 1:19:44SPEAKER_03: because my other two guys sing.
- 1:19:47SPEAKER_03: It was very important to me that we go out,
- 1:19:50SPEAKER_03: and if you came to a show to see Auto Man,
- 1:19:53SPEAKER_03: that's what you would get live,
- 1:19:54SPEAKER_03: just louder.
- 1:19:56SPEAKER_03: And so it's a very honest recording.
- 1:19:59SPEAKER_03: It's not overproduced.
- 1:20:02SPEAKER_03: And that was very important to me.
- 1:20:04SPEAKER_03: But I think it's very sonic,
- 1:20:06a sonic-tight record that stands up with really anybody out
- 1:20:11there right now that's
- 1:20:11SPEAKER_03: a rock band.
- 1:20:13SPEAKER_03: And so that's a little tidbit that I thought I'd give you there.
- 1:20:16SPEAKER_03: And other than that,
- 1:20:18SPEAKER_03: it is coming out worldwide on March 17th,
- 1:20:22SPEAKER_03: and it'll be at all retail and download in the U.S.
- 1:20:25SPEAKER_03: and Canada.
- 1:20:27SPEAKER_03: So you can get it at all your places,
- 1:20:29SPEAKER_03: Best Buy and Walmart and iTunes online and all the download,
- 1:20:34SPEAKER_03: Rhapsody,
- 1:20:34SPEAKER_03: wherever you feel like you want to go.
- 1:20:38SPEAKER_03: If you're actually going to purchase it, you can go there to do it.
- 1:20:42SPEAKER_03: And so that's it.
- 1:20:44Well,
- 1:20:44do you feel that it'll surpass the first week's sales of
- 1:20:47Chinese democracy?
- 1:20:52SPEAKER_03: Oh, man, I don't have any expectations.
- 1:20:55to tell you the truth nearly about sales these days you know I
- 1:20:59I don't know what to
- 1:21:00expect and I don't expect too much all I know is that this
- 1:21:04we're living in a new
- 1:21:05time of rock and roll there's no doubt about that and you know
- 1:21:09the way I have my
- 1:21:10label set up and everything I don't have to sell millions of
- 1:21:14records to come out on
- 1:21:16SPEAKER_03: top on this I really don't you know I
- 1:21:19SPEAKER_03: It's a different time.
- 1:21:21It's not like the big deal that The Killer Dwarfs had with Epic
- 1:21:24back in the day.
- 1:21:24SPEAKER_03: We had to sell millions of records just to recoup.
- 1:21:27SPEAKER_03: Well, I only have to sell thousands now, really.
- 1:21:30SPEAKER_03: It's a different element now.
- 1:21:33SPEAKER_03: It's really different.
- 1:21:33SPEAKER_03: I just want to get out on the road.
- 1:21:35SPEAKER_03: That's all I really care about.
- 1:21:36SPEAKER_03: I just want to get out and tour.
- 1:21:38In the immortal words of ACDC,
- 1:21:41it's a long way to the top when you want to rock and roll,
- 1:21:44right?
- 1:21:45SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 1:21:45SPEAKER_03: And I would know it more than anyone being in my 40s now.
- 1:21:49SPEAKER_01: Holy shit, you're ancient.
- 1:21:52SPEAKER_01: All right, well, Daryl, the fans can find you over at automan.ca.
- 1:21:57SPEAKER_01: That's A-U-T-O-M-A-N dot C-A.
- 1:22:00SPEAKER_01: And do you guys have a MySpace or a Facebook?
- 1:22:03SPEAKER_01: Yeah,
- 1:22:03go to the MySpace because the MySpace is really cool because
- 1:22:06the player just loads
- 1:22:07and you can hear all the tracks for free on there right now
- 1:22:10from the new pocket
- 1:22:10SPEAKER_03: change record.
- 1:22:11SPEAKER_03: So go to MySpace slash Facebook.
- 1:22:13SPEAKER_03: Auto Man CA.
- 1:22:15SPEAKER_03: No dot.
- 1:22:16SPEAKER_03: Just Auto Man CA.
- 1:22:17SPEAKER_03: Go have a look there.
- 1:22:19SPEAKER_03: There's pictures and stuff, and you can hear all the tracks.
- 1:22:21SPEAKER_03: Just sit and have a listen to them.
- 1:22:23SPEAKER_03: And, yeah, we got the rest of them, too.
- 1:22:26SPEAKER_03: We got the Facebooks and all that stuff.
- 1:22:29If you want to go hunt us down on there and YouTube and all
- 1:22:31that,
- 1:22:32we're on there.
- 1:22:32SPEAKER_01: All right.
- 1:22:33Well,
- 1:22:33drop them a note and let them know you heard Daryl here on the
- 1:22:36Classic Metal show.
- 1:22:38SPEAKER_03: Definitely.
- 1:22:39SPEAKER_01: All right, Daryl, is that it?
- 1:22:41SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think we're covering it.
- 1:22:43SPEAKER_03: You know what, guys?
- 1:22:44SPEAKER_03: I really appreciate you having me on, man.
- 1:22:46SPEAKER_03: It means a lot to me,
- 1:22:47and I really appreciate you just getting me to airplay and
- 1:22:51helping spread the word
- 1:22:52SPEAKER_03: here for me.
- 1:22:52SPEAKER_01: Excellent.
- 1:22:53We usually only book guests like Rob Halford and Lemmy and Tony
- 1:22:58Iommi and stuff,
- 1:22:59SPEAKER_01: so we made room in the schedule to maybe fit you in.
- 1:23:03SPEAKER_03: I understand that.
- 1:23:05SPEAKER_03: That's why I feel quite privileged.
- 1:23:07SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 1:23:08SPEAKER_03: You know, thanks.
- 1:23:08SPEAKER_03: I mean, maybe this record will get me up there, you know, another notch.
- 1:23:12SPEAKER_03: That's what I'm hoping.
- 1:23:13SPEAKER_01: Sure.
- 1:23:14SPEAKER_03: I'm hoping.
- 1:23:15SPEAKER_01: All right, Darrell.
- 1:23:15Well,
- 1:23:15we always ask our guests the traditional classic metal show
- 1:23:19question.
- 1:23:20SPEAKER_01: How has Lemmy from Motorhead influenced your career?
- 1:23:25SPEAKER_03: He's made my drinking skills the top of my game.
- 1:23:29I've never been such an amazing drinker in the last few years
- 1:23:33because they'll let me in.
- 1:23:34SPEAKER_03: I thank him for that.
- 1:23:35SPEAKER_03: I can slam Jack Daniels still at my age, like no tomorrow.
- 1:23:38SPEAKER_03: Excellent.
- 1:23:39SPEAKER_03: Yep.
- 1:23:40SPEAKER_01: All right.
- 1:23:40SPEAKER_01: Well,
- 1:23:40SPEAKER_01: go over to ottoman.ca,
- 1:23:43SPEAKER_01: go check out the website,
- 1:23:44SPEAKER_01: go to the MySpace page,
- 1:23:46SPEAKER_01: and pick up the CD when it comes out on March 17th,
- 1:23:49SPEAKER_01: right?
- 1:23:49SPEAKER_03: Yeah, St.
- 1:23:50SPEAKER_03: Paddy's Day, don't you know?
- 1:23:51SPEAKER_01: Excellent.
- 1:23:52all right all right daryl uh it's been a lot of fun so uh we
- 1:23:56always let the artist
- 1:23:57pick a closing song from their new disc so uh what should we
- 1:24:00play and maybe tell us
- 1:24:01a story about it um let me think well actually uh let's play
- 1:24:07the single this this
- 1:24:08is going to be the first single actually that's officially
- 1:24:10going to go to radio
- 1:24:11SPEAKER_03: it's called dig in deep second track i believe on on the disc and uh
- 1:24:18SPEAKER_03: It's got a different flavor to it.
- 1:24:21I don't have a whole lot to say about it,
- 1:24:24actually,
- 1:24:24lyrically or anything.
- 1:24:25SPEAKER_03: I mean, it's kind of self-explanatory.
- 1:24:28Pocket change is in the lyrics,
- 1:24:30so I ended up using that as kind of a coin.
- 1:24:35SPEAKER_03: That's what the title track is called.
- 1:24:39But Carlton Lockhart,
- 1:24:41my guitar player,
- 1:24:41I will talk about him just quickly.
- 1:24:43SPEAKER_03: This kid is amazing.
- 1:24:45SPEAKER_03: He plays with his fingers.
- 1:24:46SPEAKER_03: left-handed, upside down.
- 1:24:48SPEAKER_03: He's kind of like a Jeff Beck finesse type player.
- 1:24:52SPEAKER_03: And, you know, you hear a difference.
- 1:24:54SPEAKER_03: He's not just your ordinary guitar player.
- 1:24:56SPEAKER_03: He's undiscovered.
- 1:24:57SPEAKER_03: He's a real talent.
- 1:24:59SPEAKER_03: And,
- 1:25:00SPEAKER_03: I mean,
- 1:25:00I could see this kid on Guitar Player magazine after our first
- 1:25:03real tour in the
- 1:25:04SPEAKER_03: U.S.
- 1:25:04SPEAKER_03: because he's very unique.
- 1:25:06SPEAKER_03: And he shines in this song.
- 1:25:08SPEAKER_03: You can really hear the feel.
- 1:25:11SPEAKER_03: Like I said, he doesn't use a pick.
- 1:25:12SPEAKER_03: He plays with his fingers like the Mark Knopfler type player.
- 1:25:15SPEAKER_03: But he's a rock guitar player.
- 1:25:17SPEAKER_03: And his favorite artists are the Rolling Stones and Jeff Beck.
- 1:25:23SPEAKER_03: That's sort of his favorite artists, Keith Richards and Jeff Beck.
- 1:25:26SPEAKER_03: That's his idols.
- 1:25:27SPEAKER_03: Excellent.
- 1:25:28there you go all right well here it is this is auto man from
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