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the straightification of jojo siwa · gasp! the pod

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There was an interview a few days ago and JoJo says Chris is
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the best man and a gorgeous boy. Girl, he's not a boy.
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He is 10 years your senior and he's in his 30s.
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Welcome back, you guys, to GASP, the pod, the podcast for the
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gays, the girls, and especially the gay girls.
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Today we're talking about a possibly former gay girl.
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Just kidding, I think she's still pretty gay, JoJo Siwa, and
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I'm wearing pink because of her. Today, specifically, we're going
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to be talking about the stratification of JoJo Siwa.
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JoJo Siwa is back on the front burner of media attention.
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This time not because of another lesbian scandal or chaotic music
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video, but because of a possible rumored boyfriend.
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JoJo Siwa, known as a child dance star, singer, and Internet
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personality, created a brand for herself right through her loud,
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colorful aesthetic and was usually always sporting a bow.
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This is how we know her, right? She then made headlines a few
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years ago when she came out as a lesbian and even found herself
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in a lesbian love triangle drama.
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It was like all over TikTok. I'm sure you guys remember it.
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But recently, after appearing on Celeb Nobody, Big Brother, JoJo
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is now facing cheating allegations.
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She changed her sexuality to queer from lesbian.
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She broke up with her partner and is rumored to be dating
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fellow contestant Chris Hughes. And suddenly the straighties are
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like, obsessed with this and now seem to be delighted with JoJo
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Siwa, which they haven't been over the last few years because
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she's been very outwardly gay, right?
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So we're going to dig into this whole controversy and why the
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gays are mad and why the streets are so happy about this.
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Boring stuff. Oh also, guys, I'm recording
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this the day after the AM as I did not watch it because I was
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on a plane. However, I was really stressed
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that I was going to miss it because, you know, we all
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fucking thought Taylor Swift would be there and release
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something. And I'm genuinely so confused
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like what's happening And honestly I was very much
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convinced that something was happening because her fucking
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website spelled out AMS 26 was everywhere.
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Like I'll make some tik toks on this but genuinely I'm at a loss
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for words and I feel like she's baiting us and I'm so scared.
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OK let's get into it. Also I'm realizing this is my
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last episode before pride month starts which is very exciting.
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I feel like pride this year is just going to be so necessary
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since, I mean, at least America is in like a downward homophobic
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spiral. So I feel like it's really
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necessary time. OK, let's first just get into
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JoJo Siwa's fame to catch up. Some people.
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If you're not aware of like how JoJo Siwa's famous because
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honestly, I didn't really know. And I didn't even know that she
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was like on Dance Moms. I got to be honest.
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I just thought she was like this like crazy kid.
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OK, so let's talk about her rise to fame, right?
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So her full name is Joel Siwa. She was actually born in
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literally 2003. So she's only 22 fucking years
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old, and she actually just turned 22, so newly 22.
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She's a dancer, singer, actress, and Internet personality.
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And in 2013, this is kind of like how she got into the
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spotlight. She was the youngest contestant
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and finalist on the Dance Moms spin off, Abby's ultimate dance
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competition, and that got her into Dance Moms.
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So in 2015, she began appearing on the Dance Moms Show because
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that show was like so huge and big, it just like pushed her
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into celebrity dumb. And then in 2016, she released
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her songs Boomerang. I was apparently against like
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bullying and I can make you dance slay.
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So at this point, right, she's like a child star in her
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audience is children. In 2016, she also released a
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line of hair bows because her whole thing was like, bows and
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ponytails and, like, colours and like, right.
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OK, so and actually it makes kind of a good transition into
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being gay. Like, it kind of makes sense.
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Like she's so like, loud with her clothing and so colorful.
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Like, it's rainbow gay. OK.
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Then in 2017, she signed with Nickelodeon.
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And at this point, she, like, really took off and actually did
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not know this either. In 2020, she was on Time's 100
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most Influential People in the World list.
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That's kind of crazy. Yeah.
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And then in 2021, she did this show called Siwas Dance Pop
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Revolution. And I don't really know much
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about the show, but I think it's her and her mom, like training
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this dance group, this young kids dance group to be like
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really famous and stuff. It's giving Abby Lee, right?
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That's kind of the vibe. And according to Wikipedia, I
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did not follow this controversy. So if you guys have, you know,
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give me the deets. But apparently IN2024C1 and her
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mother, this is a quote from Wikipedia.
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C1. Her mother were alleged to have
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mistreated members of Ex OMG Pop, which is apparently the
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group from See was Dance Pop Revolution by subjecting members
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to grueling rehearsal schedules that left a little time for
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school and promoting an unhealthy competitive working
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environment. That doesn't surprise me, but
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it's also funny because it's like, that's what Dance Moms did
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then in 2021. I think this is like really when
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I felt that she was pushed into adult entertainment and pop
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culture as much as she was a part of like kids pop culture,
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right where like she was really getting big in 2021.
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She was the contestant on Dancing with the Stars and she I
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think like almost won. OK, just looked it up.
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She was in second place slay and she did really well.
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She was a part of the first same sex pairing in the show's
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history, which great. And then 2022 and 2024 she was a
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judge on So You Think You Can Dance.
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And then in 2024, literally last year, this is when she came out
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with karma. This was like her quote rebrand
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to this like tougher image, right?
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She was like kind of pulling a Miley Cyrus, except not at all.
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And her rebrand was just kind of like wearing like leather.
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And she released Karma as her first, like adult single.
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She also got backlash during this time because she said that
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she created a new genre called gay pop.
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And then there was a lot of fucking backlash against that
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because like, you didn't invent gay pop.
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Like gay pop, gay pop is pop. I mean, there's like so much to
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say about that, but she's had a lot of controversies, right?
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Like since the beginning of her career, she's been a part of
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controversies. She's been a part of dating
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controversies, controversies regarding her show, what she
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says about her rebrand, just in general, kind of like her like
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voice is like some would say, annoying.
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I would perhaps agree. Like she's very intense,
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energetic, and I think a lot of it is she's like been used to
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the spotlight since she was so young that I feel like she like
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feels the need to curate this like exuberant crazy
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personality, you know what I mean?
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And then that kind of goes into Big Brother and that controversy
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because a lot of people who are like saying that she almost like
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found herself and like was away from the cameras and like found
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her voice and it's like a softer one.
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We will get into all of that. But it's also ironic because,
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like, it's a TV show. There are cameras.
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Why would this be her? Why would this have been her
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escape away from publicity? I mean, maybe because she's not
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on social media. I don't know.
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Anyways, she's had a lot of controversies and a lot of it is
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also regarding her sexuality. So let's get into that.
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OK, So in 2021, she came out as just like in general, being a
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part of the LGBTQ community. And then later she ended up
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identifying as a lesbian. As you can presume.
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If you guys are not like aware of, you know, what happened
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during this time, people were not happy about it 'cause
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there's a lot of homophobes and in general, because she was like
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a child star and a lot of her fans were children.
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Everyone was like, Oh my God, you're like, you know, pushing
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your agenda on children. She was met with a lot of
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backlash around that and at this point kind of became like a
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queer icon. And I'm gonna give her credit.
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Like this was super brave. When you're like, come from
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Nickelodeon, you come from being a young child star, you know
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that people are gonna be so pissed about this because, like,
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you sell dolls and like, you make music for kids.
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Like, people are going to fucking hate that because this
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idea that gay people are groomed children.
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So the fact that she made it such a big part of, like, her
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career and her personality, her public persona of being gay and
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like, being very outwardly gay, like, I think that's amazing and
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really good of her to do. I do have some other issues that
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we will talk about later. So here's her dating history.
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And just like, the most public ones.
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OK, So she dated this dude named Mark Bontempo.
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So irrelevant, I think. And like, this is kind of like
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right before she came out and then kind of like her most
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significant girlfriend that I feel like any of us who were
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like on lesbian TikTok, like in 2020-2021, 2022 were aware of
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her dating Kylie Prue. She met her on a cruise, which
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is just the most fucking lesbian thing ever.
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And her and Kylie were on and off for a while.
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And this is where like a lot of the lesbian love triangle drama
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stems from. After Kylie, she briefly dated
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this girl named Katie Mills. And then after Katie, she dated
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Avery Cyrus. Avery Cyrus is a lesbian tick
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tocker, right? She's like a big part of like
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all of the lesbian tick tock drama.
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And I don't if you guys remember, but like a few years
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ago, kind of the whole Avery, Cyrus, so JoJo Siwa stuff that
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was at the root of like what people called the lesbian
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apocalypse. And like all of these couples
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were breaking up and it was like crazy.
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I think this was also during like the whole Becky and
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Fletcher, like Becky's so hot, Shannon Beveridge drama.
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It was a crazy time to be a lesbian on the Internet.
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Which is funny because it's like was literally 2 years ago but it
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feels like forever ago or three years ago.
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Time isn't real. So the whole lesbian love
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triangle stuff was that after Katie Mills she dated Avery
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Cyrus and Avery Cyrus was dating so also a tick tocker.
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And apparently, like allegedly Avery broke up with so for JoJo
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for Klout, right? That's kind of like what JoJo
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alleges. Allegedly JoJo was still seeing
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Kylie and like there was just a lot of drama.
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Like now she's very much a part of this like lesbian Internet
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entertainment community. OK.
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Then after the whole Avery thing, she dated Dakayla Wilson,
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who was a contestant on So You Think You Can Dance.
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And JoJo was a judge during this season.
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So like I don't understand how that's not a conflict and like
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unprofessional. But they dated and then after
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Dakayla, JoJo dated Kath Epps, who's non binary.
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And this is then when we get into the whole Big Brother
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controversy shit show. OK, so I do have after Kath,
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Chris Hughes question mark, question mark because it's like
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they haven't actually confirmed they're dating.
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But we will go into all the suspicion, right?
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So Celebrity Big Brother this past April, JoJo was a
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contestant on Celebrity Big Brother in the UK and it filmed
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and premiered in April 2025. So all this is very fresh and
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recent and I feel like they need to talk about it because like
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every day there's another news story about like JoJo and Chris,
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like doing some interview. It's just weird.
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The whole thing is strange and the response from straights is
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very weird. And I think finally gay people
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are like calling out this behaviour because at first I was
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like, wow, there's a lot of conflicting opinions about like
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what's going on with like the JoJo Siwa situation and Chris.
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And then I realized like it was pretty much separated on like
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who was straight and who was gay.
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And we will go into the two different perspectives.
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JoJo entered Celebrity Big Brother and by the way, JoJo was
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consistently booked and busy. I think there's an argument here
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that like her mom kind of exploited her because like she
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should not be like on this many fucking shows.
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Like once she signed this deal with Nickelodeon, like she's
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been consistently doing something every single fucking
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month. Like she's been on a million
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shows, 1,000,000 appearances and all the different like podcasts
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and like she's she's consistently everywhere and it
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only like brings her more controversy.
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And so I do think, you know, like, her being consistently in
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the public eye, you know, she hasn't had a lot of time to,
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like, grow up and, like, understand who she is as a
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person. So I definitely think that,
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like, you know, we need to give her grace.
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But at the same time, if you're representing the queer
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community, you have to be careful about, like, what you
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say. So when she went on this show in
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April of this year, she was still in a relationship with
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Kath, OK. She had no access to social
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media during the filming of the show, so she's no idea what
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people are thinking. And honestly, I wonder if that
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would have even affected her actions, like, at all.
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And so the whole show is, like, a strategic and interpersonal
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game show, right? So a lot of people were saying
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maybe her, you know, getting close to Chris Hughes is PR or
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like for the strategy of the game.
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And I think there's something to that argument during the course
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of the show, fans and also people not even watching this
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show. I didn't even really watch the
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show. I was just watching on TikTok
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because like all of these clips were just posted immediately.
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We all watched as literally JoJo got closer and closer to Chris
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Hughes, which is weird in three ways.
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One, there might even be 41. Chris is 32 fucking years old
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and JoJo at the time is 2110 years.
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Difference isn't weird, you know, out of context, but the
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context is that she's so fucking young. 21 is so young, so that's
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weird. 2, at this point she's a lesbian, so that's confusing.
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Three, he seems very gay to me. 4, she's in a fucking
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relationship. So there are four reasons.
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The whole thing was very weird and very confusing and it led to
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like the perfect storm of like the Internet buzz because we're
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all like, what the fuck is going on?
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There's a lot of debate over what is considered cheating,
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what is not considered cheating. I think you can make the
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argument that it wasn't cheating, but like it was
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emotional cheating because the vulnerable conversations JoJo
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was having with Chris is like something that like it.
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It's just like icky, OK? It definitely crossed lines, OK
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during the show because they're all kind of sleeping together.
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They would sleep in the same bed, like hold hands, they would
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cuddle together. They'd have lots of physical
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touch and they're pretty much inseparable the entire time they
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passed notes to each other. JoJo cried to him and like in
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this like really gross scene, he's like wiping her tears that
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they have so much physical touch with each other.
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It is beyond friends. Like that is not friends.
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It was like this physical attraction, right?
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There's a debate over if there's a forehead kiss in the hot tub.
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For me, I don't really think it changes anything because like
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the things that they're already doing was crossing lines like
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they were like spooning each other in the bed like it's it's
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crazy. Another reminder, Chris Hughes
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is fucking 32 when this is happening and JoJo is 21.
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So even if she wasn't a lesbian when this was filmed and even if
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she wasn't in a relationship, it's just fucking weird.
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He also just gives gay to me like lavender relationship.
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I do think that they are like attracted to each other.
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I don't think that like he is like fully gay question mark
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like maybe they are both just queer.
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I kind of do think they are both attracted to each other.
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Have you guys seen that tick tock couple and it's like this
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mask girl and this more like femme guy and they're dating and
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like she looks like a mask lesbian, right?
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And he looks like a more femme gay man.
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And they like work together because they're both attracted,
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like the girls attracted to the femininity of the guy and the
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guys attracted to the masculinity of the girl.
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I can actually see that making sense for them because Chris
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Hughes gives gay and JoJo Siwa is gay.
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And I can almost see it working out.
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The issue is the age difference. She was in a relationship and
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more things. OK, so during the show, she
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comes out as queer JoJo. JoJo says that she's been
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thinking about it, and she's like, feeling like she's not
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actually a lesbian and she's changing letters and that she's
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actually queer, which is super valid.
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You're allowed to figure out your sexuality, and you're
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allowed to realize that your sexuality has changed, right?
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Or that it wasn't what you thought it was before.
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OK, Pin in that after the show raps Jojo's partner, Kath
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literally flies to London to greet JoJo after the fucking
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show. And at this point Kath says OK,
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you know, the things are being played up for the show and like
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obviously Jojo's figuring out stuff about herself but it
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doesn't mean that like they're not going to be together.
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But JoJo immediately breaks up with them and apparently says it
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has nothing to do with Chris and remains firm after the show that
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she didn't cheat and she didn't break up with Kath for Chris,
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right? So they break up and JoJo goes a
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bunch of these interviews, same with Chris.
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They keep saying like, you know, we didn't do anything, we didn't
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cheat. And Jojo's like, you know, there
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was many reasons that I broke with my partner and none of them
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have to do with Chris. And it's like, at this point,
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dude, like, it would just be easier if she just said what she
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was doing because we all saw it. It's just gaslighting at its
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finest. And like, you can't say that
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there was no reason that Chris made you break up with them.
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It's just ridiculous. And also, like, obviously JoJo
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realized that she was queer because she was falling for
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Chris. What's annoying about it is that
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she's acting like Chris has no impact on it.
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And he absolutely did. So JoJo, after the show went on
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the Vile Files Nick Files podcast and talked about like
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why she now identifies as queer instead of a lesbian.
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But you got a lot of backlash from the queer community about
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what she said. And I do have to agree 'cause I
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think it's irresponsible what she said.
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So she talks about her sexuality, and this is her
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quote. Quote, sexuality is fluid.
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Gender identity is fluid. It could be one thing today and
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one thing. Tomorrow, do I think that she
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had good intentions when she said that?
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Yes. And I do think she is talking
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about her own experience, right? And like I understand what she's
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saying in the intention, right? Sexuality can be fluid.
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Here's the issue. It's fluid for her.
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She needs to like, own up to the fact that her sexuality is not
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what she thought it was and that she didn't know who she really
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was and that she's actually queer or that she identifies as
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like being fluid, which is very valid.
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All these things are very valid, right?
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The issue is saying that sexuality is fluid.
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It could be one thing today and one thing tomorrow.
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You know what that gives? It gives conservatives being
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like, oh, you don't have a real identity because it's just blows
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with the wind. And like, that is not the case
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for every queer person. And especially when there's this
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whole homophobic rhetoric of like, oh, I can change a
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lesbian. And like, a lesbian just needs
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to meet one man and it'll change.
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And they actually just need to meet the right guy.
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That's the danger of this statement.
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And like, when you are representing the queer
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community, you can't just be throwing out statements that
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sexuality is one thing and then sexuality could change.
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And sexuality is always fluid. And like I understand that's not
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what she meant but like when she had backlash from that she
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should have just owned up to it. And I understand she gets a lot
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of like pointless hate sometimes but she has to realize like what
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is ridiculous hate and unnecessary hate to comment on
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and then what is like valid criticism from the queer
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community. It is totally fair that she now
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realizes that she's queer, but you cannot say that's sexuality
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is fluid. Sexuality can be fluid.
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Like to say it could be one thing today and one thing
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tomorrow is literally insane. That's literally what
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conservatives say. And again, I understand the
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intention, but when you have such a huge platform, you have
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to be careful what you say, especially when you're feeding
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into this idea that, like, lesbians aren't even real.
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And I know that's not what she means, but like, guess how it
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was taken? It was taken like that.
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Now people are like, oh, my gosh, like, look, JoJo found
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herself a man. Like, it's this idea that every
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lesbian, you know, isn't really a lesbian and that it's fluid
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and that lesbians the next day may just be queer or they might
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just be straight and they can just blow with the wind.
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And for a lot of lesbians, that is not how they feel.
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And that is not how a lot of people in the queer community
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feel. So like, when you are talking
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about your experience and you have a public platform and you
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are queer, you just have to be so careful about what you say.
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You really do. And I know that's annoying, but
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like, you have to when we live in this homophobic society that
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like, praise and hopes that these, like, gay people can be
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changed and that, you know, they just need to find the right man.
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It's just dangerous and responsible.
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OK, so after all of this, during Jojo's 22nd birthday trip, which
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now they're 10 years apart in age, they go on a trip, JoJo and
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Chris, and they're spotted kissing.
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At this point, they're obviously something sexual or romantic
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happening between them, which like, no fucking duh.
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We all thought that and the gaslighting is absolutely
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ridiculous of her a month before telling her partner that she
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broke up with them because of issues in their relationship and
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then a month later that they're kissing.
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Come on. It's like just own up to it.
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Just be like I realized I had feelings for someone else and I
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ended the relationship before things got too far right.
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But it's like you're pretending like you just broke up with them
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for no other reason. Both of them at this point
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consistently have been flooding social media and talking about
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the other person with like such a lovey dovey terms.
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It's like only a month after JoJo was dating fully someone
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else. And obviously this is a pattern
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now of like JoJo going back and forth from a bunch of different
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people breaking up, then going back with her ex and like, she
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needs like, to slow down. And they've been like spotted,
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like hugging, holding hands, like JoJo kissing Chris''s
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shoulder, like fully fledged in relationship.
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I don't know what the fucking term they're using, but like
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it's something romantic and sexual because they're fucking
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kissing. OK, So I don't know how she's
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possibly denying this still because there was an interview
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literally yesterday and you know, she was asked, JoJo was
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asked if her and Chris were in a relationship and she's still
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saying like, oh, like I'm not going to say anything like ha
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ha, like no. So she's still not really saying
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that they're in a relationship. And I don't know what they're
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like waiting for because it's not like they're off social
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media and like trying to stay away from paparazzi.
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Like they're fine with it being open, but not in the interviews.
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And I think at this point, I see the argument for PR, right?
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You're like egging it on with all these interviews, but you're
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not really telling the truth. So it's like, I would almost
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appreciate if she was just telling the fucking truth.
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There was an interview a few days ago and JoJo says Chris is
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the best man and a gorgeous boy. Girl, he's not a boy.
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He is 10 years your senior and he's in his 30s.
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And it's gross. It's just so much media and PR
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and this interview I saw of them, they're talking about each
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other, but they're both calling into this interview and it's
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just giving PR media training. It's over saturated and it's
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weird because they're pretending like they're not in a
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relationship, but they are. It's giving lavender marriage
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but opposite because they're public about it.
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And it the whole thing is so strange.
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And the strangest part about all of this is the fact that street
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people are like obsessed with it.
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And that's what makes her statement so dangerous.
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Like that sexuality can change, right?
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Because St. people now are glomming onto this story and
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they're like obsessed with it. I've noticed that there's a
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clear split in the reception of, you know, Chris and JoJo and
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this whole media frenzy surrounding their quote
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relationship. And it's split between gay
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people, the gay community, and straight people.
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And it's super strange, like why straight people are so obsessed
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about this? Because even if they were two
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straight people, they're still cheating.
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But it's almost like they don't care if there's potential
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cheating because it pushes the idea that like, everyone can
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turn straight for a good man. It's fucking gross and
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disgusting. And like, why do you all of a
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sudden love JoJo? It's because she's maybe with a
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man. It's so weird.
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So let's talk about the gay perspective and then the
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straight perspective on this whole controversy.
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And when I say stratification, I don't mean that like, JoJo is
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all of a sudden, like straight. I just mean like, she's being
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pushed into the straight role and she's not really helping
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herself. So here's the gay perspective.
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She cheated on her partner probably, or at least crossed
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some lines, right? And like, queerness is valid and
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you can change your identity. I've seen a lot of queer people
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talking about this, like this is fair.
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And also like, I've seen a lot of queer people, like, you know,
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saying the same thing I'm saying, which is like her
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queerness is valid. And like you can change your
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identity. And she's young, obviously, and
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figuring out herself. But queerness is not fluid for
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everyone. And saying that is so fucking
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dangerous. She should have said it's fluid
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for me because unfortunately, whether she likes her or not,
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and she needs to be aware of this, she is kind of a gay
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spokesperson, especially for people who are younger, you
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know, maybe also figuring out their sexualities.
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So it's like you do have to think about what you're saying
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when you talk about queerness and when you have an audience
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that is not super educated about queer issues.
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And then also the gay perspective is like and again
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this the gay perspective is also my perspective.
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It's weird that people are OK with her cheating and crossing
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these lines when it's for a man because I wonder if people would
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feel that way and like feel OK with her doing all of this if
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she was dating a man. I highly doubt it.
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It feels like they don't actually respect her non binary
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partner and it's almost like she's coming true to who she's
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always been which is someone who needs to be with a man It's
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gross. Again like she can date whoever
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she wants it's just the like narrative around it is getting
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really icky. It's just also weird that people
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are obsessing over this new relationship and liking her now
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more because she's with a man. Like I didn't see any of this
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press when she was dating any of the last few girlfriends.
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Why is it now because she's with this guy, it's almost like, oh,
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this wholesome new personality that she has now that she's with
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a man. It's so weird.
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Like me, I've seen like interviewers being like, Oh my
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God, I'm like so obsessed with you 2.
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Like why? Because it's like feeding into
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this narrative that Oh my God, a man changed her.
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OK, here's a straight perspective and like, OK, when I
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say straight perspective and gay perspective blah blah, blah,
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blah, blah, it doesn't mean that I think this is everyone's
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perspective. I just think this is the
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overwhelmingly like, straight narrative on the Internet, OK?
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This perspective is that she's young and she didn't know
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herself before, right? And being in the spot like
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confused her and made her think that she was a lesbian.
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This is straight up what I'm seeing on the Internet.
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Finally, she's understanding herself and, you know, like the
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show, like, took her away from social media and made her
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realize, like, who she always was, which is someone who's not
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a lesbian. And again, it's like the
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actuality of the situation is not harmful.
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I mean, the potential cheating is it's it's the like fact that
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the narrative is being praised and the fact that like it's seen
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as the good narrative of her finally being with a man.
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And like now she's better and like truly herself.
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And she wasn't before when she was with not a man, right?
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That like she was just so confused.
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Like I've seen all these comments like poor girl she was
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so confused. It's giving so gross and so
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homophobic and there's so many people like just obsessing over
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her and Chris. I just don't understand what the
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obsession is. She was literally dating someone
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a month ago. Does no one give a fuck that she
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was like cheating on her partner?
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Like why is this so cute? It's so confusing to me like why
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are people obsessing over it? And I think we all know the
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answer. People want to see her with a
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man and it's like heartwarming for them.
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It's just gross. I've also seen an alarming
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amount of comments and posts talking about how she's like
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finally leaning into her like soft feminine side now that
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she's like with a man and like this is who she needs to be and
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become is like this more feminine version of herself,
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someone who's more soft spoken. And there's people being like,
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Oh my God, you can even see how she's talking interviews like
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more like softer and like she seems more relaxed and like
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happy now that she's like with a man that has more of the strong
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side and she doesn't have to be strong.
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It's so trad wife. And this is, you know, something
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we've been seeing over the last few years, penetration of trad
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wife and like, misogyny. And it's being hidden by
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statements like, Oh my God, feminine aura and like, shit
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like that. And makes it seem like it's like
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spiritual or like stars or like woo woo when it's not woo woo.
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And it's just fucking misogyny. And it's like, no, you're not
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necessarily leaning into your femininity.
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You are letting a man take control.
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It's this idea that like you should be leaning into your
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feminine side and that like, it makes you more relaxed and
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happier to like let go of this feisty side of yourself And that
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JoJo is finally, you know, feeling like her true self now
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that she's with a man. It's fucking disgusting.
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Also, why are so many straight people calling her Joelle?
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As if like JoJo was this like gay alter ego but her true self
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is this straight girl named Joelle.
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It's so weird. Like when did she call herself
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Joelle? I've never seen so many straight
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people be so obsessed with a couple that was born out of
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cheating and a 10 year age difference.
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Why do you like it so much? And I feel like all the gays are
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like, wait, wait, what is going on right now?
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Time will tell with what the hell happens with them at this
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point. I would really appreciate if she
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just, like, said the truth and was like, you know, I realized
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that I was into men and I'm actually queer because of Chris.
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Like, I wish she would just say that.
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But instead she's like, Oh my God, sexuality can change any
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day. And I also wish she would just
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say no, I meant that for me because that statement did so
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much harm and straight people fucking ran with that.
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And when you are a celebrity, you don't.
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I understand. Like it's easy to make mistakes
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and like you say a lot of public things just correct yourself.
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Because it's so weird how like a gay icon, deeply entrenched and
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like lesbian Internet drama is the point of focus for all of
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these straight people to be obsessed over.
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And it's, interestingly enough, happening at a time where
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homophobic Kobe is on the rise, sexism is on the rise.
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You know, corporate sponsors are pulling out of pride.
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It's not cool to be gay anymore. And it's a creepy movement
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that's pushing us back towards the 1950s.
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And I fucking hate it. Let me know you guys think about
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the situation. I think it's so interesting and
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confusing and wild and like, I mean, it's objectively insane to
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be a lesbian, go into the show with a with your partner and
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leave queer and dating a man. That's pretty wild.
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And then have all these straight people so happy for you and they
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don't care that he's 32 and you're 22 and you were dating
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someone before. It's OK because it's with the
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man. All's fair in love and war.
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All's fair in straight love and war, apparently.
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