Latest / Chuck Douglas / Brian Steel FOP 9
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- 0:00Speaker 1: All right, So a couple of things going on that
- 0:03Speaker 1: I've got to talk about in this the next twenty
- 0:05Speaker 1: minutes here or so, one of which is this woman
- 0:06Speaker 1: that was attacked up in hill here and I just
- 0:11Speaker 1: ready to chew nails, as they used to say, ready
- 0:14Speaker 1: to chew nails, because all of the stuff that you
- 0:17Speaker 1: see in people go, that's just internet room, or that's
- 0:20Speaker 1: this folk lord, that's it. Every time a story like
- 0:22Speaker 1: hers comes to be, it makes me think, yeah, those
- 0:26Speaker 1: internet rumors have to be based on something. And this
- 0:31Speaker 1: was very blatant, and God bless her for coming forth,
- 0:34Speaker 1: was her story, and for her husband for being what
- 0:36Speaker 1: a husband is supposed to be. Excellent people. I'll tell
- 0:40Speaker 1: you that story soon. Right now, I've got joining me
- 0:42Speaker 1: right now on the Legacy Retirement Group dot com phone lines,
- 0:44Speaker 1: the president of the Fraternal Order of Police, Lodge number nine,
- 0:47Speaker 1: the one, the only, the Mighty, Brian Steele.
- 0:50Speaker 2: How you doing great, Chuck break Brown the show as always, well.
- 0:54Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. I initially had asked you to come
- 0:56Speaker 1: on with me this week because we were going to
- 0:58Speaker 1: talk about all the you know, well, as police hit
- 1:00Speaker 1: the streets, they had a campaign that it went very well.
- 1:03Speaker 1: The results were impressive. Didn't get nearly enough press. But
- 1:06Speaker 1: what is getting enough press and too much press, and
- 1:08Speaker 1: it's making me sick today, is you know, this is
- 1:11Speaker 1: the beginning of the Adam Koy trial, and we got
- 1:15Speaker 1: to talk about it. I mean, there's no way to
- 1:17Speaker 1: be responsible and not talk about it. It makes me sad.
- 1:20Speaker 1: I'll just tell you right off the top of my
- 1:23Speaker 1: right at the top of my head, I don't agree
- 1:27Speaker 1: with the charge, should there be charges. I'm sure was
- 1:31Speaker 1: a life lost. Absolutely, we shelled out ten million dollars
- 1:35Speaker 1: as a city to the family, and mistakes were made
- 1:40Speaker 1: and tragedies exist, and it's a very sad thing. But
- 1:43Speaker 1: what is going on right now, as far as I'm concerned,
- 1:45Speaker 1: feels more like vengeance than justice. And I will be
- 1:48Speaker 1: glad when it's over with and hopefully in a good way.
- 1:53Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm glad we're going to talk about this.
- 1:55Speaker 2: So listen. Someone once told me, they said, you know,
- 1:57Speaker 2: Brian Steale, Chuck Douglas, you guys are a back combo
- 1:59Speaker 2: because like it is. I say, we're a great combo
- 2:02Speaker 2: because we tell it like it is. And here's the
- 2:04Speaker 2: reality of the Koi trial. He was already denounced and
- 2:08Speaker 2: vilified by Mayor Ginter and elected officials. As you said,
- 2:11Speaker 2: ten million dollars settlement was paid out to the family.
- 2:15Speaker 2: A work program by city council was named after mister Hill,
- 2:18Speaker 2: A law was named after mister Hill. A rec center
- 2:20Speaker 2: was named after mister Hill. He is a paragon of
- 2:24Speaker 2: virtue according to the media, and then officer KOI right,
- 2:28Speaker 2: we show his personnel file, we say he responded to
- 2:31Speaker 2: a non emergency run. They try to water this down.
- 2:34Speaker 2: Here's the reality. I do not know if bolster Koy
- 2:37Speaker 2: was justified or not. Only a judge and Durry can
- 2:39Speaker 2: determine that when they hear the facts of the case.
- 2:42Speaker 2: They see the evidence and they look through the eyes
- 2:44Speaker 2: of Graham versus Connor. I've never once said the officer
- 2:47Speaker 2: was justified or not. I just said we need a
- 2:49Speaker 2: fair and am partial trial, and I don't know if
- 2:52Speaker 2: we're going to get that.
- 2:53Speaker 1: The idea that mistakes are made seems so alien the
- 3:00Speaker 1: people because it's it's you know, it's far more important
- 3:02Speaker 1: to to to judge and stand in judgment. That's just
- 3:06Speaker 1: And I don't care who you are what you have.
- 3:08Speaker 1: For some reason, people love that superiority feeling, and I
- 3:11Speaker 1: think we just have too much of that going on
- 3:13Speaker 1: right now. If something went wrong, and as I said,
- 3:16Speaker 1: I I believe it did, that's that is my opinion.
- 3:20Speaker 1: Let us also remember the era in which this happened,
- 3:23Speaker 1: when an officer couldn't be sure they could get from
- 3:25Speaker 1: their car into the station house without somebody taking a
- 3:28Speaker 1: shot at them, when they were the ultimate villains, when
- 3:31Speaker 1: they were under attack, their head on a swivel constantly.
- 3:34Speaker 1: Columbus was becoming some place that had not been before.
- 3:37Speaker 1: And maybe just maybe pepper spray, nightclub, gun badge, everything else,
- 3:47Speaker 1: just maybe a human being got a little scared and
- 3:53Speaker 1: and something went awry. And you know, there's there's got
- 3:56Speaker 1: to be that grace in your heart to understand that too.
- 3:58Speaker 1: As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't excuse anything, but
- 4:02Speaker 1: it certainly should change the mindset of what you believe
- 4:07Speaker 1: you want because of the event.
- 4:10Speaker 2: That's absolutely right. The narrative that was basically painted was
- 4:13Speaker 2: white officer simply executed a black man. And I simply
- 4:17Speaker 2: do not buy that. I do not buy that that's
- 4:19Speaker 2: what happened. The courts are clear. The courts say an
- 4:22Speaker 2: officer can make a mistake. And let's say an officer
- 4:24Speaker 2: does make a mistake, and I'm not here to say
- 4:26Speaker 2: Diderie didn't, But if he did, is that murder? I
- 4:30Speaker 2: don't think so. It may be you can no longer
- 4:32Speaker 2: be a police officer. It may be that there might
- 4:35Speaker 2: be some charge, It may be that maybe you should
- 4:37Speaker 2: perhaps be fired or resigned, but murder, We're talking murder,
- 4:41Speaker 2: complete overreach post twenty twenty rogue leftist prosecutions, that's all
- 4:46Speaker 2: this was.
- 4:48Speaker 1: Well. I think you and I are definitely on the
- 4:49Speaker 1: same page about that. The charge, if there must be
- 4:52Speaker 1: a charge, I murder is You're going for something here
- 4:56Speaker 1: that I just don't think is a justified charge. But again,
- 4:59Speaker 1: it washes out, and I'm sure you and I are
- 5:01Speaker 1: both going to be keeping eyes on it, and I'm
- 5:02Speaker 1: sure you and I will probably be talking about it
- 5:04Speaker 1: some more as as the next few weeks go along.
- 5:09Speaker 1: Shame we have to go into the holidays with this
- 5:11Speaker 1: kind of thing, But again, life is what it is.
- 5:15Speaker 1: Let's move on to something good. Columbus police hitting the
- 5:18Speaker 1: streets with an initiative. What's it been like two and
- 5:20Speaker 1: a half weeks, three weeks ago?
- 5:21Speaker 2: Now, yep, yep. Outstanding, outstanding job by all the officers.
- 5:26Speaker 2: It wasn't just Columbus police off. I'll just remind your listeners,
- 5:29Speaker 2: it was also the Sheriff's office, some of our fine
- 5:32Speaker 2: officers from our subthern departments. Look, this band of misfits
- 5:36Speaker 2: they went up to Cleveland and they laid havoc on Cleveland.
- 5:39Speaker 2: We got word that they were coming down here, and
- 5:41Speaker 2: this is what shows you can please show way out
- 5:44Speaker 2: of problems. The police were allowed to be that police
- 5:46Speaker 2: that day, and what they did was they arrested over
- 5:49Speaker 2: two hundred people. They spike stripped fifty cars, and they
- 5:53Speaker 2: towed multiple cars, and they hit everybody in the wallet.
- 5:56Speaker 2: You went to jail or you're getting a hefty fine.
- 5:58Speaker 2: Come to our city. Show off your car, pop that hood,
- 6:01Speaker 2: let's check the engine. That's great. Doing donuts, cranking off
- 6:05Speaker 2: gunshot rounds to one hundred hundred plus miles an hour
- 6:09Speaker 2: in the streets is not tolerated. And we showed them
- 6:11Speaker 2: that day. And I'm so incredibly proud proud of the
- 6:13Speaker 2: officers for that.
- 6:15Speaker 1: Is there any chance that the success of the adventure
- 6:18Speaker 1: in Cleveland transforms itself into some more endorsed if you
- 6:25Speaker 1: will efforts in the city of Columbus. Might our city
- 6:28Speaker 1: hall actually go hey, you know it worked up there.
- 6:30Speaker 1: Maybe it's time we let the cops be the cops
- 6:32Speaker 1: in Columbus too.
- 6:34Speaker 2: I think we're seeing it. We talked about Saul tim
- 6:36Speaker 2: Chuck the pendulum swing, and we over correct it after
- 6:38Speaker 2: twenty twenty. We went so far one way, and what
- 6:41Speaker 2: did we see Our rest went down? Violent crimes or
- 6:43Speaker 2: murder spike. That's just how it is. Now. You're seeing
- 6:46Speaker 2: more and more elected officials, at least publicly supporting the police.
- 6:50Speaker 2: I know the city Attorney's at Cline. He came out
- 6:52Speaker 2: heavy with the prosecution with these offenders in this operation,
- 6:56Speaker 2: and he had said, we're not pleading down your case.
- 6:58Speaker 2: That is the kind of stuff that drives that helps
- 7:01Speaker 2: drive crime down, and we just need to see more
- 7:03Speaker 2: of that.
- 7:04Speaker 1: Is there any update, by the way, I need to
- 7:06Speaker 1: ask this, any update from Milwaukee during the convention when
- 7:10Speaker 1: we sent officers out there to help with security and
- 7:13Speaker 1: they had that event as soon as they got there.
- 7:15Speaker 1: Is that still working its way through the details or
- 7:18Speaker 1: is anything coming of it.
- 7:20Speaker 2: It's still pending at the end of the day. I
- 7:22Speaker 2: mean video spoke for itself. Even the mayor of that
- 7:26Speaker 2: town openly supported our officers that day, and we thank
- 7:29Speaker 2: them for that. By these things will take a little
- 7:32Speaker 2: bit of time.
- 7:33Speaker 1: And as we head into the cooler weather and things
- 7:37Speaker 1: begin to change and the crime patterns begin to change
- 7:40Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. Anything that those who
- 7:43Speaker 1: are supportive of our police departments can do to I
- 7:47Speaker 1: don't know, make your life a little bit easier, put
- 7:49Speaker 1: a smile on your face during patrol, anything like that,
- 7:51Speaker 1: because you know you've got a microphone here for that.
- 7:54Speaker 2: Well, one of the best things you can tell an
- 7:55Speaker 2: officer is you know, hey, be safe out there. Thank
- 7:58Speaker 2: you for your service, because it matters. And listen, we're
- 8:01Speaker 2: not puppies. We don't need scratch it on a belly
- 8:03Speaker 2: or pats on a back. But when this is why
- 8:05Speaker 2: we do this. We do this for a reason. Officers
- 8:07Speaker 2: go to work every day knowing they might get murdered
- 8:09Speaker 2: and not come home. And when people say, you know, hey,
- 8:13Speaker 2: thank you for your service. I always say, you're welcome,
- 8:15Speaker 2: You're worth it, and that's the best thing intel an officer.
- 8:17Speaker 2: Some guys forget too, though. The FLP we're a nonprofit charity,
- 8:21Speaker 2: so if anybody wants to help the FOP nine Foundation,
- 8:24Speaker 2: you can get on our website FOP nine dot org.
- 8:27Speaker 2: Cut a check. That money goes to officers in sick
- 8:30Speaker 2: and distress and it goes into the community we serve.
- 8:33Speaker 2: So we'll give out we'll give out meals for Christmas,
- 8:36Speaker 2: We'll do a code drive, all these things. We could
- 8:38Speaker 2: certainly use the community support so we could help give
- 8:41Speaker 2: back to those we serve.
- 8:43Speaker 1: Why don't I know about this? You're supposed to tell
- 8:46Speaker 1: me about stuff like this so I can help you
- 8:48Speaker 1: with it.
- 8:49Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know what that's on me. I'll own that.
- 8:52Speaker 2: I'll give you all the information offline, and yeah, let's
- 8:55Speaker 2: do some good work together.
- 8:56Speaker 1: This is why I won't scratch your belly.
- 9:02Speaker 2: Not many could scratch my belly, but I let you.
- 9:04Speaker 1: Brian Steele as president of FOP Lodge number nine, he's
- 9:07Speaker 1: doing a fine job. He is as always, very visible,
- 9:10Speaker 1: very vocal, very supportive of the troops and uh and
- 9:14Speaker 1: never flinches when asked a question. You are so very appreciated.
- 9:17Speaker 1: I don't think you.
- 9:17Speaker 2: Know well, I appreciate it's a voice of CenTra high
- 9:21Speaker 2: law enforcement. Thank you so much. Grabbing me on the
- 9:23Speaker 2: show and give me a platform to speak to good
- 9:25Speaker 2: work work their officers are doing every day.
- 9:27Speaker 1: Anytime. You'd be safe out there, buddy. We will talk
- 9:29Speaker 1: again very very soon. That he's he's just you know,
- 9:33Speaker 1: one of the cool things about Brian is I hit
- 9:36Speaker 1: him with whatever, even if it's not favorable stuff. You
- 9:39Speaker 1: think he wants to talk about, you know, an officer
- 9:41Speaker 1: on trial. No, but he will. He doesn't shy away
- 9:45Speaker 1: from things, and I like that about him very much.
- 9:48Speaker 1: I got this story, but let me let me get
- 9:50Speaker 1: to this call, because this guy's been holding on here
- 9:51Speaker 1: for a while and I want to get to him.
- 9:52Speaker 1: But I got to tell you about the Hilliard thing too.
- 9:54Speaker 1: Eight six is the number. Tommy, you're on sixten level
- 9:57Speaker 1: the u TV and turned down your radio. I think
- 10:00Speaker 1: he wants to talk about though. Okay, we'll put Tommy
- 10:04Speaker 1: back on hold. Maybe it'll turn down the radio. You know, people, man,
- 10:09Speaker 1: it's like from the seven he's turned down you're radio.
- 10:13Speaker 1: So the woman is shopping at the home store in Hilliard.
- 10:16Speaker 1: Her story is on the WSYX website if you want
- 10:20Speaker 1: to read about it, but essentially, here's the deal. She
- 10:23Speaker 1: went out, She her husband and the grandchild, and they
- 10:26Speaker 1: wanted to look for some spooky stuff, some halloween stuff
- 10:28Speaker 1: right for the home at the home store, and there's
- 10:32Speaker 1: this guy, Mohammed Kamorrow, which, by the way, there's a
- 10:38Speaker 1: soccer player by the same name. It's not the same guy.
- 10:41Speaker 1: Mohammed Camaro. Yes, Mohammed Camaro sounds like a detective from
- 10:45Speaker 1: an eighties TV series.
- 10:46Speaker 2: Doesn't He doesn't drive a Camaro or is he?
- 10:49Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know that this guy drives at all.
- 10:52Speaker 1: Just looking at his picture, he looks like he probably
- 10:54Speaker 1: wears those polyester fake silk shirts and sandals all winter long.
- 10:59Speaker 1: So a yeah, it's up. And I again, I just
- 11:04Speaker 1: I want to say to this woman, good for you,
- 11:09Speaker 1: Gloria Cannon, good for you, And to your husband, Tim,
- 11:13Speaker 1: good for you for being a man, rushing in that
- 11:15Speaker 1: bathroom and doing what a man, what a husband should do.
- 11:19Speaker 1: Here's her story from the Wsyxite, shopping at the Art
- 11:23Speaker 1: home store on Mill Run with her husband's son grandchild
- 11:26Speaker 1: near their Hilliard home. The day was as innocent as
- 11:29Speaker 1: you would think. Gloria's husband, Tim said, none of the
- 11:32Speaker 1: three of us saw a threat until we heard the screen.
- 11:36Speaker 1: Gloria said, they took their grandson to the store on
- 11:37Speaker 1: September twentieth to look for spooky things. While they were there,
- 11:40Speaker 1: she went to the restroom. The minute I walked in
- 11:42Speaker 1: the stall, I heard the door open, she said. When
- 11:46Speaker 1: I walked out of the stall and around, I saw
- 11:48Speaker 1: him standing there, and I knew it wasn't good. Hill
- 11:51Speaker 1: your police had. Twenty six year old Mohammed Kamara of
- 11:54Speaker 1: Columbus allegedly could be seen on surveillance video following and
- 12:00Speaker 1: Gloria around the store and into the restroom. Court records
- 12:03Speaker 1: alleged that he waited. Allege you watched him alleged that
- 12:09Speaker 1: he waited for her near the sinks, then attacked her,
- 12:14Speaker 1: grabbing her throat, slamming her against the wall, covering her mouth,
- 12:17Speaker 1: and attempting to strangle her. What went through my mind
- 12:21Speaker 1: almost immediately was I need to get myself out of here,
- 12:24Speaker 1: Gloria said. And when that wasn't going to happen, I
- 12:26Speaker 1: needed Tim to hear me call his name. I knew
- 12:32Speaker 1: that was my only goal. I had to survive long
- 12:35Speaker 1: enough to get Tim's attention. Eventually, Gloria was able to
- 12:39Speaker 1: get Tim's attention. I heard a scream that was muffled,
- 12:43Speaker 1: and then I heard Tim help me. Tim said, I
- 12:47Speaker 1: was fully expecting to walk through the door and see
- 12:48Speaker 1: her laying on the floor with a sprained ankle, a
- 12:50Speaker 1: slip and fall thing. Instead, Tim saw his wife struggling
- 12:54Speaker 1: to get away from Kamara. Hiliar police said he was
- 12:56Speaker 1: able to pull Kamara from his wife and hold him
- 12:58Speaker 1: until they arrived. Any husband that gives a darn about
- 13:03Speaker 1: their wife goes into protector mode, and that's where I was,
- 13:06Speaker 1: Tim said. Gloria said the moment replaced constantly in her mind. Tim.
- 13:12Speaker 1: I congratulate you, sir, on your restraint. I don't know
- 13:19Speaker 1: that I would have been controlled enough to leave anything
- 13:24Speaker 1: for the police to come and pick up. But you
- 13:29Speaker 1: see these stories floating around about women going to the
- 13:31Speaker 1: car and finding something on their car handle or something
- 13:35Speaker 1: on their windshield. Just look at a Fox News report here,
- 13:38Speaker 1: twelve hundred and forty eight missing children in twenty twenty
- 13:41Speaker 1: three in the United States of America, sex trafficking up,
- 13:44Speaker 1: borders open. We're supposed to act like everything's fine. You
- 13:49Speaker 1: can't say that because that's raisedist, your xenophobic Shut the
- 13:54Speaker 1: hell up. People. Look if one population increases and another
- 14:01Speaker 1: population starts disappearing. It's not that hard to put two
- 14:05Speaker 1: and two together. We are so worried about being offensive
- 14:12Speaker 1: to someone, but we don't make any sense sometimes, so
- 14:17Speaker 1: Mohammed Kamara. Whatever the maximum in jail is, I hope
- 14:22Speaker 1: you get it, and then some and anybody else who
- 14:26Speaker 1: grabs Grandma whilst she's taking. By the way, Grandma's inappropriate term. Gloria,
- 14:32Speaker 1: you're a lovely lady. Just so you know, Tim, Please
- 14:35Speaker 1: don't beat me up if you ever meet me at
- 14:36Speaker 1: the hill your homestore. Watch out for each other. People
- 14:40Speaker 1: watch out for each other because other people are watching
- 14:43Speaker 1: you and there's not always somebody else to come to
- 14:46Speaker 1: the rescue. Time for me to fly. We'll do this
- 14:49Speaker 1: again tomorrow night. Bob's fragg State Treasure of Ohio joining
- 14:52Speaker 1: me with some opinions on six ' ten WTV