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Why God Cares That Your Strong (Not Just "Saved") · Faithful Fitness With Coach Alex VanHouten

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Faithful Fitness Podcast for my Dad. Coach
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  Speaker 1: Alex Van Houghten helps you get stronger in mind, body
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  Speaker 1: and spirit. He believes that your body is a temple,
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  Speaker 1: so taking good care of it is an actual worship.
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  Speaker 2: I should know.
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  Speaker 3: I live with.
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  Speaker 1: Him every week. He brings truth from the Bible to
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  Speaker 1: some science and stories that will set your heart on fire.
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  Speaker 1: May God bless you to become everything He made you
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  Speaker 1: to be, just one percent better every single day.
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  Speaker 4: So anyways, this guy is following me, and I just
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  Speaker 4: had a gut feeling that there's something something off about
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  Speaker 4: this guy. So I walk a little faster and then
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  Speaker 4: he runs and he tries to grab me, and I
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  Speaker 4: screamed in Jesus's name, get your hands off me. And
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  Speaker 4: he looked up at me and he had this look
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  Speaker 4: of fear on his face.
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  Speaker 5: That moment changed how Christina understood strength. Most people quit
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  Speaker 5: fitness because they're chasing appearance instead of readiness. They trained hard,
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  Speaker 5: and they still all apart. Today, we redeem fitness as stewardship, preparation,
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  Speaker 5: and obedience because faith doesn't replace strength and gives it
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  Speaker 5: of Coach Alex how this is faithful fitness.
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  Speaker 2: What's up, guys.
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  Speaker 5: This is coach Alex Van Howton on the Faithful Fitness Podcast.
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  Speaker 5: Our mission is to help you make the most out
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  Speaker 5: of the body God's given you, and I am so
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  Speaker 5: excited about today's episode because we have our guest from California,
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  Speaker 5: Miss Christina Barkley.
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  Speaker 2: How you doing girl, I'm great.
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  Speaker 3: How are you?
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  Speaker 5: I'm doing awesome, And I'm really excited about this conversation.
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  Speaker 5: We are going to be talking about the New Year's resolutions,
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  Speaker 5: We're going to be talking swapping stories of training. We've
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  Speaker 5: both been trainers for over a decade and we also
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  Speaker 5: both run our own personal training businesses, which I don't
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  Speaker 5: really get to talk much about here on the Faithful
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  Speaker 5: Fitness Podcast. You run Dogged Strength with your husband, correct correct, Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That's awesome.
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  Speaker 3: Since twenty eighteen.
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  Speaker 2: That's awesome. That's awesome.
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  Speaker 5: So I can't wait to talk about We have so
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  Speaker 5: many things to talk about here, but first I'm just
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  Speaker 5: going to I'm just going to lay a fun question
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  Speaker 5: on you real quick, and that is this, So this
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  Speaker 5: morning you had a client cancel first thing in the
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  Speaker 5: morning and you got some extra sleep. Can you please
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  Speaker 5: help our listeners understand why that's so nice and painful
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  Speaker 5: for a trainer.
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  Speaker 2: At the same time.
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  Speaker 4: It's nice because I mean, we all want a little
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  Speaker 4: extra sleep, and we usually trainers. Most trainers are up
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  Speaker 4: at the crack of dawn or before sunrise, so just
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  Speaker 4: the chance to have that a little slow down in
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  Speaker 4: the morning is such a blessing.
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  Speaker 3: But at the same time, you know, you have goals
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  Speaker 3: for your client.
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  Speaker 4: You don't want them to be, you know, sick or
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  Speaker 4: ill or anything, so when they cancel, you feel bad.
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  Speaker 4: And then of course the money too. You only get
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  Speaker 4: paid when they train, so that hurts too. But I've
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  Speaker 4: learned over the years that just let God provide, Like
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  Speaker 4: there's always a reason, like He may have needed me
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  Speaker 4: to spend more time with him this morning, or you know,
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  Speaker 4: that client may have needed more rest. So I'm getting
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  Speaker 4: better at just like just letting God just take over,
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  Speaker 4: not worry.
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  Speaker 3: About my schedule too much. So was it was definitely
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  Speaker 3: a blessing to sleep in this morning.
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  Speaker 5: So I have a trainer to trainer question, and for
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  Speaker 5: the rest of the audience it might not make any sense,
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  Speaker 5: but how do you wake up before client session? I've
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  Speaker 5: trained clients at five I've trained clients at five thirty
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  Speaker 5: and I've trained clients at six And no matter what
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  Speaker 5: the first session of the day looks like, there's always
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  Speaker 5: like a wake up process for me so that I
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  Speaker 5: can bring my best to the table for my client session.
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  Speaker 2: How do you wake up?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I wake up with a pretty jarring alarm clock
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  Speaker 3: to make sure I wake up.
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  Speaker 4: Because I'm always afraid I don't want to oversleep miss
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  Speaker 4: any sessions. So I get up, I do a quick prayer,
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  Speaker 4: and I do a quick you know reading of my
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  Speaker 4: I open my Bible and just look for just some
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  Speaker 4: some verse to just you know, have h to take
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  Speaker 4: with me for the day. I do later studies when
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  Speaker 4: I'm more awake and later in the day. And then
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  Speaker 4: I have two dogs, so they have to get out,
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  Speaker 4: so it forces me to get up and get moving
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  Speaker 4: and wake up. One of them is fourteen years old,
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  Speaker 4: so I actually have to carry her down the stairs side.
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  Speaker 4: And then the other one is a rambunctious four year old,
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  Speaker 4: So so yeah, I almost have like a little pre
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  Speaker 4: workout before before my client sessions.
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  Speaker 3: And then coffee.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, coffee is a mess too, so so yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that's what my morning usually looks like. So by the
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  Speaker 4: time I see my first client, I am pretty wide awake.
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  Speaker 5: Yep, yep, I feel that, I feel that a little joggins.
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  Speaker 5: I'm heavy metal are my personal favorites.
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  Speaker 2: I get it.
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  Speaker 5: Get about three minutes of activity in there, and I'm awake.
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  Speaker 2: Come on, let's go, let's go. This is awesome.
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  Speaker 5: So, so you and your husband run a company called
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  Speaker 5: Dogged Strength, which which obviously is a personal training business
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  Speaker 5: in fitness company. And I've got to say that that
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  Speaker 5: most most husband and wives.
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  Speaker 2: That I know can't work out together.
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  Speaker 5: But that wasn't your guys' story, and it's not it's
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  Speaker 5: not my wife and my story either. Actually she's a
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  Speaker 5: dietician and we can work out together and and that's fun.
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  Speaker 5: But I've I've got to ask, how did you guys
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  Speaker 5: launch a personal training business together in a way that
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  Speaker 5: was good for you both and good for your marriage.
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  Speaker 3: It was definitely unique kind of I guess I should
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  Speaker 3: start with how how we met?
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  Speaker 4: So, so, before I got into training, I was in casting.
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  Speaker 4: I was in the entertainment business, and I worked in
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  Speaker 4: the casting and television industry, and I was I was
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  Speaker 4: pretty out by the time I met my husband, and
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  Speaker 4: and he could see that, and I wasn't the most healthiest,
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  Speaker 4: just stressed and not not eating right over exercising and
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  Speaker 4: not lifting weights and so so he's the one that
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  Speaker 4: got I was just into running and doing whatever it was.
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  Speaker 2: You were a cardio bunny, I can't pick it. I was.
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  Speaker 3: I was a cardio bunny.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and but I was doing it for vanity reasons.
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  Speaker 3: I was doing it being in the entertainment business.
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  Speaker 4: You know, that's kind of to be expected to look
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  Speaker 4: a certain way, especially in the casting world. But but
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  Speaker 4: he was like, you would be much happier if you
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  Speaker 4: lifted weights and you have way more results, and yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 3: So I was just like, ways are.
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  Speaker 4: Boring, Like I don't I don't really feel like I
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  Speaker 4: need to or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: So so I'll just say real quick.
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  Speaker 4: So on my way to dinner with him, whe night,
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  Speaker 4: I was living by myself in a studio and most
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  Speaker 4: feelss and I had to walk through an alley way
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  Speaker 4: to get to my car. And one night, as I'm
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  Speaker 4: walking through this alleyway that I always do, and it
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  Speaker 4: was it's funny enough, it was actually this week, like
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  Speaker 4: in two thousand and sevens so whatever that was the
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  Speaker 4: week or it was the week of Halloween. So so anyways,
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  Speaker 4: this guy is following me, and I just had a
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  Speaker 4: gut feeling that there's something something off about this guy.
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  Speaker 4: So I walk a little faster and then he runs
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  Speaker 4: and he tries to grab me, and and I screamed
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  Speaker 4: in Jesus's name, get.
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  Speaker 3: Your hands off me.
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  Speaker 4: And he looked up at me, and he had this
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  Speaker 4: look of fear on his face, and just this horrific
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  Speaker 4: look on his face. And he let go and he
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  Speaker 4: ran off, and I remember when he looked up that
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  Speaker 4: there was like a light and I thought it was
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  Speaker 4: like a censor light or someone's a garage light that
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  Speaker 4: went off. And I looked behind me and there's there's
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  Speaker 4: no light, there's no there's nothing. So that was definitely
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  Speaker 4: a moment where I felt the protection of the whole
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  Speaker 4: spirit or maybe a you know, one of his arch
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  Speaker 4: angels was right above me.
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  Speaker 2: And those guys look scary. They're always saying, hey, don't
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  Speaker 2: be afraid. Don't exactly exactly, so I mean, I don't.
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  Speaker 4: I like to think that maybe that's what he saw,
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  Speaker 4: but but because something changed his mind drastically, so from
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  Speaker 4: that point on, I was I was less about exercising
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  Speaker 4: to look a certain way, and I wanted to exercise
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  Speaker 4: to be strong and look confident and look like at
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  Speaker 4: least looked like more work too, you know, for someone
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  Speaker 4: to attack, like. I just wanted to look like, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: maybe I won't mess with that girl, you know. So
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  Speaker 4: then I asked my my, my then boyfriend, my now husband, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: I'm ready to I'm ready to learn how to lift
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  Speaker 4: some weights just because I want to be strong.
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  Speaker 2: And he was happy to teach you. I'm sure.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he was totally he was totally happy to
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  Speaker 3: teach me.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, so so then so we started. So he
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  Speaker 4: taught me little by little and then and then I
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  Speaker 4: slowly started to just fall in love with it. And
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  Speaker 4: then women at the gym would come up to me
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  Speaker 4: and ask me for help with this machine, or you
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  Speaker 4: look like you know what you're doing, how.
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  Speaker 3: Do I how do I do this? Or how do
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  Speaker 3: I look like you? Or whatever? And I just really
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  Speaker 3: enjoyed showing them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And then I didn't want to be at the office anymore.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, I just want to be at the gym.
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  Speaker 4: So I felt the nudge, I felt God leading me
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  Speaker 4: to change my career.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so can can I can I sit on that
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  Speaker 5: for just a second, because that's like, because because that
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  Speaker 5: that was that experience of people asking for advice. And
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  Speaker 5: it's not like you were a certified personal trainer at
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  Speaker 5: the time. It was just you were in you were
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  Speaker 5: in the practice. You were there, you know, every day
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  Speaker 5: or every other day, doing your work, doing the lifts,
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  Speaker 5: making it look good. And I don't just mean like vainly,
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  Speaker 5: I mean like you you look like you know what
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  Speaker 5: you're doing, right, and when you're when you're in the
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  Speaker 5: trenches and you're practicing, people will naturally come ask you
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  Speaker 5: like what do you how do you do that?
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  Speaker 2: What are you doing? How do I look like you?
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  Speaker 2: How do I get strong?
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  Speaker 5: You know, like like you make that look easy, you
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  Speaker 5: know that that sort of thing. And when you get
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  Speaker 5: to show somebody something happens, Like something happens when they
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  Speaker 5: go from I'm not confident in this, I'm scared of this,
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  Speaker 5: but I want to learn two, I can do this.
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  Speaker 2: Something happens right there.
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  Speaker 5: That that for me, that's what that's what training is
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  Speaker 5: all about. That's that's why you get out of bed
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  Speaker 5: at five in the morning to train a client, right,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, they might pay you for that.
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  Speaker 2: But it's like, look, if I didn't have to make
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  Speaker 2: any money, I.
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  Speaker 5: Would still do this for free. Can can you talk
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  Speaker 5: to me a bit more about how how that felt
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  Speaker 5: for you, how you fell in love with that, and
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  Speaker 5: if that's still the case today.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's definitely.
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  Speaker 4: Complimentary, Like it boosted my confidence too, like oh you
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  Speaker 4: think you think I know what I'm doing, you know? So,
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  Speaker 4: so yeah, it boosted my confidence. But then afterwards, seeing
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  Speaker 4: like if I saw that same woman doing the exercise
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  Speaker 4: I showed her a few weeks earlier, it was.
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  Speaker 3: Like, oh she's doing it now, she knows what she's doing,
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  Speaker 3: you know.
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  Speaker 4: So so yeah, it's definitely it makes you feel like
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  Speaker 4: you've made a difference. So you've made their lives better
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  Speaker 4: because you know, like it's made my life so much better,
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  Speaker 4: so you just you can't not share it. So it's
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  Speaker 4: just and it's still the case today for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I love that. So Jesus.
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  Speaker 5: A lot a lot of Christians, if I asked them,
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  Speaker 5: what's your job as a Christian, they would say, uh,
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  Speaker 5: like it might be like be a good person, follow
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  Speaker 5: Jesus and like those fine, but Jesus actually gave us
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  Speaker 5: a job it's called the Great commission.
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  Speaker 2: Go forth and make disciples of all nations.
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  Speaker 5: Teaching them everything that I've commanded you, and baptizing them,
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  Speaker 5: and name the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
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  Speaker 5: And Lowell will be with you always, even to the
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  Speaker 5: end of the age. That's the great commission at the
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  Speaker 5: end of Matthew. And and the word disciple there disciple
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  Speaker 5: or disciple will ship that. The word in Greek actually
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  Speaker 5: means to rub off on. It's like doing life with
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  Speaker 5: somebody or or executing some activity.
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  Speaker 2: It brings to mind this.
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  Speaker 5: Shoulder to shoulder thing where some of me, some of
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  Speaker 5: what's good in me, some of what God's given me,
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  Speaker 5: rubs off on you because of proximity and practice. And
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  Speaker 5: I find that so alive in training, because let's say
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  Speaker 5: you don't know how to deadlift, and your back hurts,
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  Speaker 5: and your lats are not working well, and you can't
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  Speaker 5: tie your shoe without pain, let alone pick up one
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  Speaker 5: hundred and fifteen pound.
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  Speaker 2: Weight or whatever.
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  Speaker 5: And so through the process of weekly practice, through strengthening
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  Speaker 5: the correct muscles, through learning how to breathe well, through
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  Speaker 5: body position and whatnot, through that process, suddenly somebody who
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  Speaker 5: had back pain can now deadlift like I was deadlifting
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  Speaker 5: because I've rubbed off on them, right, And like, for
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  Speaker 5: for me, it's such a picture of discipleship. Training in
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  Speaker 5: that way is such a picture of discipleship, and for
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  Speaker 5: me always led me back to what Christ said to do,
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  Speaker 5: which is to to make disciples. Now that you know,
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  Speaker 5: disciples have to deadlift to follow Jesus, although that's arguable
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  Speaker 5: maybe we don't have We don't have to make that
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  Speaker 5: argument here, but but do you find do you find
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  Speaker 5: that to be fulfilling in the same way with the
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  Speaker 5: idea of rubbing off on somebody in a positive direction?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's like it's it's good news, it's
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  Speaker 4: good information, right, so it's like how do I.
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  Speaker 3: How do I not share it?
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  Speaker 4: And so so I I with the Great commission too,
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  Speaker 4: just considering that as I'm training people from all backgrounds
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  Speaker 4: and all religions and all, you know, just a variety
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  Speaker 4: of people, you know, just having to share the light
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  Speaker 4: of Jesus is just like whether it's through my actions,
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  Speaker 4: like how I show my love to them, like in
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  Speaker 4: and out of our sessions too. So so I think
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  Speaker 4: it's it's something that I'm like urged to do, Like
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  Speaker 4: I just feel like I have to to give them
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  Speaker 4: good news, whether it's you know, good nutritional info. You know,
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  Speaker 4: you definitely can lift heavier than that because I can
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  Speaker 4: see you can You're.
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  Speaker 3: Still you know, you're not fatigued at twelve reps. We
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  Speaker 3: need to go heavier.
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  Speaker 4: So so I think not not holding back you know, good information.
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  Speaker 4: So just like you know the Gospel, you know, it's
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  Speaker 4: just one of those things that you know, it's it's
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  Speaker 4: such good, good comfort, peace, joy, all those things. So
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  Speaker 4: so yeah, and in my sessions, when when the timing
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  Speaker 4: is right too, I try to slip in little litle
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  Speaker 4: nuggets of you know, biblical wisdom and.
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  Speaker 3: And then revelation. Wellness has definitely.
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  Speaker 4: Helped me with that too, where where it's not separate,
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  Speaker 4: you know, like our our lives shouldn't be compartmentalized, you know,
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  Speaker 4: so living for Christ, He's with us everywhere always, so
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  Speaker 4: so incorporating corporating that into my work life, you know,
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  Speaker 4: has been huge.
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  Speaker 5: That that was actually the impetus for the Faithful Fitness
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  Speaker 5: devotional that that I wrote and published. The it was
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  Speaker 5: hard for me at first in my client sessions to
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  Speaker 5: be able to articulate where where Scripture fit into this thing.
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  Speaker 5: And that took me years. It took me years of
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  Speaker 5: meditating on these practices.
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  Speaker 2: For myself.
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  Speaker 5: I understood it, I felt it, but it was difficult
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  Speaker 5: to work that into a conversation, particularly if I had
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  Speaker 5: a client I was working with who wasn't a believer
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  Speaker 5: or maybe not not not uh, you know, from a
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  Speaker 5: Christian tradition, maybe they weren't opposed to Christianity. But the
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  Speaker 5: idea of quoting Jesus in a in a workout setting was.
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  Speaker 2: Like, what are you doing? Weird? But but it but.
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  Speaker 5: It evolved and and that's you know, that's really what
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  Speaker 5: was the impetus for for writing Faithful Fitness was taking
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  Speaker 5: scripture and saying, hey, this doesn't need faith and fitness
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  Speaker 5: don't need to be a separate thing. It's not like
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  Speaker 5: I go to church and I read my Bible and
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  Speaker 5: I pray and sometimes I exercise.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's more like, no, no.
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  Speaker 5: Our our exercise practice, stewarding our body in exercise and
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  Speaker 5: stewarding our body and nutrition. That's that's actually deeply scriptural
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  Speaker 5: and can bring scripture to life in such a powerful
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  Speaker 5: way if you're willing to chew on it. No pun
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  Speaker 5: intended if you're willing to chew on it in the
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  Speaker 5: middle of your weight training session. I've had I've had
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  Speaker 5: quite a few in this this in this very gym,
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  Speaker 5: quite a few intimate times with my father, and also
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  Speaker 5: intimate times with clients where where they're working through something
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  Speaker 5: difficult and scripture comes alive for them all the time. Sudden,
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  Speaker 5: I guess on that note, are there any scriptures that
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  Speaker 5: that really stand out to you when you exercise right now,
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  Speaker 5: that that you're really munching on that inspire you.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, right now, I'm trying to think. You put
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: me on the spot.
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: I mean I have a life for I mean everyone,
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: A lot of believers have life versus and that's my
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: mine would be probably Proverbs three five through seven. Trust
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: in the Lord with all your heart, lean not on
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: your own understanding, So just surrendering to him and not
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: not having everything in your control that ultimately it's up
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: you're submitting everything to his control and trusting that you
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: know he knows, he knows better than you know.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: So that that's one that I often lean on. And
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: then are.
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: I like to think of my work and anything where
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: I'm working unto the Lord. So one Corinthians was at
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: fifteen fifty eight. So you know your your labor's not
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: in vain if it's on to the Lord. So anytime
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: I dedicate anything to him, I know that there's going
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: to be fruit from it, just because it's it's his.
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: Yes, yes, awesome, Thanks for sharing this, and sorry to
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: put you on the spot. Sometimes I always have scripture
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: bouncing around in my head. But but sometimes when I'm
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: on the spot, it's like it disappears.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Oh no, oh no, it went it went away.
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: Let me let me Rea, And I don't know if
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: you mess with this or not. From my background, I
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: learned scripture in the King James version, but when I
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: go to quote it to somebody, I want it to
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: be understandable, So I'm trying to translate to EESV or something.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: Right exactly exactly. It's so nice we have all those versions.
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: Right. So, given this conversation about training and how how
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: mentoring and discipling, how they're they're kind of the same
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: thing where we get to rub off on people.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: I want to talk about.
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: Since it's you know, the time of year that people
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: are coming back or planning on coming back. If somebody
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: is listening to this, just before the first of January,
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: you're planning on starting your workouts. If you're one of
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: the very few faithful who are still doing deadlifts, my
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: heart goes out to you. Where do your mother cut
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: from the same cloth? But if you're like, no, no,
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: I'm going to start in twenty twenty six. I want
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: to talk about New Year's resolutions, because as as a
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: personal trainer is somebody who works with people on a
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: regular basis, new Year's resolutions, I've kind of I have
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: strong opinions about them. I've had times where I hate
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: them and times where I'm so excited about them. But
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: all of it, for me really boils down to this
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: thing where it hurts my heart so badly to see
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: people work so hard and achieve very little results and
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: not stick with it. That drives me absolutely bonkers for
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: clients or potential clients, or just the world at large,
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: because I love when people see progress in their health
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: and fitness. And I say health and fitness together because
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: working out really hard for a couple of weeks is
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: not healthy. I want to see people improve consistently. But
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: you wrote an awesome article about this, and it actually
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: is on the Revelation wellness blog, and so I enjoyed
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: reading it, but it kind of centered around the idea
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: of like, hey, let's get this right this year. Let's
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: let's redeem the idea of resolutions in light of Christ
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: and the light of your your pursuit of His kingdom.
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: And so so I want to talk to you trainer
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: to trainer, but also from a faith perspective about resolutions.
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: And you did write this in twenty twenty four, so
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: it's been a bit you might have you might have
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: evolved or adapted your your thoughts on this as a
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: trainer and also as a as a believer.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: But I want to ask you, I guess first.
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: When when you see a client or you see a
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: potential client, because you work in the gym, everybody's a
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: potential client. If if you're working out with individuals, then
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: when you see them pursuing the new year's resolution, what
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: is your what is your knee jerk like gut response
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: that that you think and feel?
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: First, I love the motivation when people come back. I
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: think it's it's good to get them in the door.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: I just I often see people doing too much too soon,
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: so they're just you know.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: Gung ho.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: The motivation is high, so they're really going for it.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: But I just I just.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: Know from over the years and my own experience too,
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: that burnout.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Is on the horizon, crude oz.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: So I just really, you know, I emphasize the clients.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: You know, if you have goals, make sure they're attainable,
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: make sure they're measurable, make sure maybe have them have
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: short term and long term goals so that way you
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: don't get discouraged. So I just I wish I could
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: tell people, especially when I see a bunch of new
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: people at the gym, you know.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: Just just try to commit to like twice a week.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: Don't come five times a week. Start with two times
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: a week and then me be a third day. But
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: it's more the long haul. So fitness is an investment,
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: so you want to really do it the rest of
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: your life essentially.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: So if you're going.
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: Into it thinking, oh, I'm just gonna kill myself for
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: six weeks and then I'll I'll get the results I'm after,
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: it doesn't work that way. It's something that you have
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: to just continually, uh work on. So I've heard a
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: really good quote once that it says that fitness is
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: fitness isn't owned, it's rented, so you have to pay rent.
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: Every day, every day.
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think the same applies, you know, spiritually too.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: So I think you can definitely feel spiritually empty if
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: you're not daily digging into the Word, or you're not daily.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: Spending time with with God.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: You know, you can kind of feel feel that weakness
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: start to creep in. Yeah, it's about finding finding time
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: on the regular, you know, to meet with him. So
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: but yeah, as far as the the gym goes, you know,
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: start small, start small, and.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: Do it consistently.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: That's exactly right. More progress, that's exactly right for me.
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: That's actually rooted in in exercise science, which which I
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: know for many people, faith.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: And science are at odds. I don't think that at all.
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: I think I think that that science teaches us how
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: to understand what it is that God's made and it's
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: and I'm always in awe. I'm always in awe of
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: how it works. It's amazing. And and exercise science teaches
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: us that that if if I want to create an
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: adaptation in myself, and I use the word adaptation because
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: it's important, if I go work out and I burn,
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: I don't know, six hundred calories in a really hard
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: one hour session. That would that would be a mean session,
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: by the way, Like I'd be very sweaty, I'd be
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: wore out, I'd be pretty sore afterward. Right, I burned
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: six hundred calories. That if if I don't adapt, then
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: that's the end of the magic. That's kind of what
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: you were experiencing as a cardio bunny. Right, It's just
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: like working your butt off all the.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Time, burning all the galleries. Right. And weight training.
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: What I love about weight training as a discipline is
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: that it's always geared toward adaptation.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: It's the idea that dead.
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: If I can, if I can bring the proper amount
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: of stress to the proper muscle groups in the proper way,
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: then what happens is is the way God made my body,
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: I will adapt. I will change for the long haul.
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: I will I will shift, i will change. I'll get stronger,
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: I'll get denser, I'll get more flexible or more powerful
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: or whatever the goal. Whatever the goal is the idea
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: of using exercise as a scalpel rather than a sledgehammer.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: But when I talk to people, I'm always explaining, Look,
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: I want you to adapt in a way that you
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: can have forever or not, you know, till till God
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: decides to call you away from this earth, and who
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: knows what at Adaptation in heaven looks like.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: But here, But here you can adapt.
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: So that the strength you gain, or the muscle mass
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: you gain, or the fat you burn, or whatever your
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: goals are, you can adapt in a way that you're
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: done with that you don't have to you don't have
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: to burn this every time you're growing and moving in
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: that direction. And an exercise science, what we learn is
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: three variables of adaptation are consistency, volume, and intensity, And
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: in that order of importance, consistency matters way more than volume,
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: which is the total amount of time or total amount
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: of sets, which matters way more than intensity. Intensity is
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: how heavy it gets or how little rest you have
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: in between, or how quickly you move the weights right.
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: And so I'm always I'm always teaching people. It's the
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: cry of my heart sounds like yours. Do Please be consistent,
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: no matter what you do, just just be like.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: It could be fifteen.
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: Minutes a day, it could be twenty minutes a day,
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: it could be two sessions a week, whatever it is,
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: but don't stop. Don't stop, How do you how do
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: you help to incorporate that into into your clients at
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: the very beginning.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Of the year.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: At the very beginning we set we set goals like
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: three month goal, six month goal, and then your goal.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: So I have them all email it to me at.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: The beginning of the year and then we check in
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: and see how it's going.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Amazing.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: But also just daily thing like what can you do
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: every day that's going to help you too?
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: So is it drinking more water?
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: Is it you know, cooking most of your meals at
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: home or maybe just incorporate one day one day a
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: week of food preps so at least you have most
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: of your meals you know cooked, just to help you
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: make better decisions.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: So. And then also just there's a performance thing that
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: they've always wanted to do, like what do you want
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: to do you know, not necessarily for you know, getting
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: your pants sized down, but what is it that you've
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: always wanted to do that you can't do right now?
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: What can we do.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: To lead you up to Yes, So that's what we
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: talked about at the beginning of the year. So not
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: just aesthetic but performance goals. And then a lot of
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: times it roots back to something coming up with the family.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: So if it's you know, like a wedding, or if it's.
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: Well, I want to be able to play with my
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: kids or my grandkids and not not be tired or not.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: Have trouble getting up off the floor, so stuff like that.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: So if I know, like what the real also like why,
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: what's the why behind it? Why do you want to
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: do push up so bad on the ground, you know,
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: So it helps if you can remember the why behind it,
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: you're more likely to stick to it and keep going
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: until you get there. So so yeah, at the beginning
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: of the year, we just kind of have a conversation
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: and I think writing it down having them email it
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: is key. So it's almost like accountability, like oh it's
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: out there, it's not just it's not just you know,
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: spoken and forgotten.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: So yeah, very useful.
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: And you can print it out and put it somewhere,
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: say hey, this is what I'm doing this year, stick
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: it on my fridge, share it with my wife or
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: husband or whoever.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: That's yeah, that's very very powerful.
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: I've I've in the past several years developed the process
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: of just asking a client, hey, if you did everything
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: right this year, what would be different. And the opposite
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: question is if you if you messed everything up, what
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: would the result be?
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: Because for me, like you said, the three months, the
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: six month, the one year, that's that's how you run
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: a business. That's how you run that's how that's how
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: you deal with taxes, that's how you deal with that's
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: how you.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Deal with so many things in life.
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: And for some reason, when it comes to the body,
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: many people don't look at their body that way. It's like,
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: I need to lose this weight as fast as possible,
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: I need to get out of this pain as quickly
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: as possible.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: And I get it.
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: You know, we live in a world of instant results,
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: and you know, shrink wrap, microwavable food and all that stuff.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: But but when it comes to the.
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: Body, this is the body you're going to have as
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: long as you're here.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: This is it.
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: This is the one and so and so when you
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: when you start thinking about your fitness goals in the
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: long term, and then you kind of work your way
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: back from there, you can say, Okay, what is realistic
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: a year from now, and maybe losing weight as fast
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: as possible in the next three weeks is not conducive
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: to keeping that a weight off by this time next year,
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: then you can really start to look at how consistency, volume,
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: and intensity work into your life.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: You said something though in your.
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: Article I thought was very powerful and important and I
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: wanted to highlight it here. You said that in the
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: place that you live, so they're in California, it's it's
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: possible for people to look really fit on the outside
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: but to be spiritually starved.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Can you tell me more about that.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's it seems to be very common.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: I mean, we're in the fitness capital pretty much of
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: the nation, by the beach, and so everyone's very obsessed
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: with looking a certain way. And I feel like there's
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: way more pressure because of social media. So I feel
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: like there's a big emphasis on that and the perception
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: people's perception of you is very important. But that you
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: can just tell that there's there even if they even
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: if they meet certain goals, even if they get you know,
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: to a size zero or whatever their whatever their goal is,
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: there's still something missing. If they if they don't know Jesus,
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: if they don't have.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: A relationship with him, you can.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: Just there's some there's there's always something else that they're
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: striving after so there's this like this dissatisfaction that just
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: never ends. So it's like they keep moving the the
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: what's the saying, they keep moving.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: The goal line, Yeah, the needle.
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: So uh.
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: And if if they could just fill that hole, that
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: that void, knowing that there's a God that loves them
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: and died for them and you know, defeated death and
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: and wants to give them the hope and the promise
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: of life, you know, they might see their body in
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: a different way. It won't be for it won't be
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: for everyone else too. So having your body is is
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: i mean, ultimately it's celebrating the creator, so giving thanks
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: for what you have and so so yeah, it's it's
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: it's sort of challenging just because we're just inundated with images, advertising,
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: being you know, close to Hollywood and all that stuff,
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: where it seems like all of that is such a
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: priority and it's the pedestal of success.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: And it's and it couldn't be further from the truth.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: It's just it's very superficial.
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: It really doesn't get into the the deep part of
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: your soul, you know, so what you look like on
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: the outside, it's it's wasting away. It's it's the imperishable,
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: you know that all talks about. So it's and and
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: when that when they make that connection, which I've had
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: a couple of clients, when they when they see that, oh,
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: like there's something, there's something deeper than just what I
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: look like that there's a God that loves them and
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: created them and you know, knows them better than anyone else.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: It's it's powerful m.
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: Hm and loves them regardless of their body fat percentage.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Right, changes the.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: Whole perspective of what's important.
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what's wild is as I I see,
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: I see the vanity in the fitness industry as as
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: a spectrum.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: So so you're your.
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: Locale is on one end of the spectrum. It's it's
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: the vanity of how I look. It's the vanity of
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: the self glorification.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: And when people think vanity vain, I'm vain. I care
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: about how I look and all this stuff. But vanity
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: doesn't mean that. Vanity means time and energy spent in
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: a way that won't last. Time and energy spent in
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: a way that's not eternal, Time and energy spent in
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: a way that that will dissipate, and fade away. Right,
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: that's what vanity means. So I'm actually on the other
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: end of the spectrum here in Arkansas. Arkansas is the
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: third fat est state in the nation. And so yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: so we wrestle with diabetes and obesity and all that stuff.
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: And what's really interesting is is this is actually part
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: of the Bible belt. There are a lot of believers here,
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: but they see fitness often not everybody, but often they
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: see fitness as a vain pursuit for the same reason.
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: Just describe, Right, So I don't need to lift weights,
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: I don't need to go for runs. I don't need
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: to watch what I eat because I'm not trying to
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: look like Hollywood, Right, I'm not trying like isn't that vain?
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: Isn't that vanity? And so what's interesting is is in
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: my neck of the woods, I'm preaching stewardship because in
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: both cases, the goal is to take vanity out of fitness.
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: Like it's not because of how you look, It's because
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: God made you and he loves you. And I want
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: you to take good care of yourself and be strong
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: and do that regardless of how you look in the mirror. Right,
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: And so you can be at peace. That's that's your
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: end of the spectrum. On my end of the spectrum,
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: it's like, hey, God gave you this body, and I
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: know you're not trying to look like Hollywood, but let's
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: make the.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Most of it. Let's let's lift, let's be let's.
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: Be capable and strong for our grandkids. Let's let's be
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: willing and ready and prepared to serve others. I loved
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: in your article where you're like, hey, you know, lifting weights,
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: you never know when you might have to help somebody
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: who's slightly weaker than you. Be ready, you know, be
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: ready to lift a couch, be ready to carry somebody's grocery,
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: be ready to punch some dude in the alleyway, Who's
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: who's you know, trying to take advantage of a young lady?
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: Like be ready, be ready, you never know? And and
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: God made our body.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: To be ready.
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: There's a there's a readiness to to the way that
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: He made our body. And one of the things I
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: love about training is no matter what level of fitness
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: you're at, you can always be a little bit better.
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: You could always he could always steward that a little better.
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: I have a have a client I'm working with right now.
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: When we started working together, he couldn't get out of
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: his chair, so like like, that's that I mean, that
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: was his his world.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: That was that was what he's wrestling with.
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: And you know, for this guy, he's not trying to
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: jump over small toddlers in a single bound. The let's
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: earn a six pack ship his saleed. You know, he's
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: just I say, he's trying to finish. Well, that's the
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: that's his fitness goal, you know. And and so when
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: we started working together, he couldn't do a lot. You know,
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: lifts are out of the question for him at the moment.
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: But but getting to where he can walk all the
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: way down his driveway and back without pain is like
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: a huge goal. But it is part of the that's
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: something I can't do yet that I can train toward.
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: And and that's that's what stewardship's about. That's how you
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: take vanity out of fitness. As you notice, you notice
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: how God made you and why he made you, and
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: then you you steward your body accordingly. So so you
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: being on on one end of the spectrum and me
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: being on the other end of the spectrum of the
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: vanity of fitness. I love having this conversation because because
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: regardless of where our listeners are, whether you're you wrestle
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: with the vanity side of of looking in the mirror
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: and wanting to look a certain way, or if you're
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: on the on the the gluttony and sloth side of vanity. Ah,
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: I don't need this fitness stuff. That's extra. There's no
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: reason for that Hollywood garbage.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: Regardless, the answer is is stewardship and giving God your
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: be So so I was curious if you had anything
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: to add to that before we talk about your upcoming book.
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: Oh no, I completely one hundred percent agree. It's it's
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: finding that that the narrow path right, not falling into
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: the ditch of either either side, because yeah, either side
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: is leading to misery ultimately. So so yeah, just sticking
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: sticking to And I think you hit it on the
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: head with serving others. If your focus is on serving others,
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: and I believe there's studies out there, you would know
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: more than me. I believe there's studies out there that
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: you can completely change your outlook of life and depression
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: and all that stuff just by putting others first and thinking, Okay,
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: how can I use what God has given me to
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: serve others.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: So so that's that's a.
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: Good way to get out of that trap of the
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: vanity or the you know, neglect of your body.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: Yes, there's a fascinating book called Spark, The Revolutionary New
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: Science of Exercise in the Brain. And in this book,
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: the psychiatrist doctor John Rady is exploring the research with
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: regard to exercise as a as A as an actual
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: prescriptive treatment for things like dementia, Alzheimer's ADHD, and the
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: lot with regard to many different treatable mental illnesses. And
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: so so that said, one of the case studies in
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: there was about sister Bernadette. And I'm not going to
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: share the whole case study here, but basically it's a nun.
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: She's in her i want to say, in her early
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: eighties when she dies and she donated her body to science,
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: and what the researchers found was a brain riddled with Alzheimer's.
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: But in her day to day life, she she was serving,
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: she was teaching kids, she was helping people in on
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: hospice treatment who are younger than her. She was, you knowing,
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: being there and with them and stuff. And until the
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: day she died. She never exhibited any symptoms of Alzheimer's
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: the but the brain after the fact post mortem, the
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: researchers were like, what that like, this doesn't make any sense.
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: How can you have a brain that's so ate up
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: like this? But nobody in her life ever reported that
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: she was wrestling with forgetfulness or forgetting where she was at.
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: And the research was concluded in this particular case study
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: that her active lifestyle of serving others her brain just
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: found a way.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: Her brain just found a way to make it happen.
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: And well, I mean, isn't when you care about something,
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: or you love something, or you love somebody, don't you
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: just find a way when they need something from you?
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: Like your your fourteen year old dog right first thing
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: in the morning. Carrying a fourteen year old dog down
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: the stairs is not exactly something. You're like, yeay, I
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: get to do this, but she needs.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: It right right, and so do it. And you just
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: do it.
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: Your your biceps are all the better for it, like exactly,
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: that's that's exactly right, that's exactly right. And and you
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: know Christ's life of Services is like that. Christ's life
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: of Service teaches your body, mind and spirit to rise
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: to the occasion. And what's so crazy is is when
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: you're serving other people, you don't you don't generally think
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: about whether or not you can. You just do and
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: and well, well that that teaches, That teaches our minds
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: and bodies a lot.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: It totally does.
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's kind of it's it's very god to
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: have us built that way.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: It makes sense.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Amen.
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, almost miraculous, even one might say so. So I
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: want to highlight so you just wrote a book, and
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: where are you in this author's journey? Because I just
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: wrote a book, And I got to tell you you
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: seem a little less adhd than I do, or maybe
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: you're just hiding it really well, But but I writing
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: a book is the hardest thing I've ever done in
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: my life. And I have two kids in like being
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: a dad to them was also very hard and meaningful,
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: but very very difficult to sit down and make myself
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: write something in sequence in cereal that makes sense to
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: not just me, but anybody else.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: So that publication process is hard.
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: It's hard to write, it's hard to edit, it's hard
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: to it's hard to design, it's hard to publish.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Where are you in this journey with your book.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: I'm at the very beginning stages.
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: The book is completed, it's a completed work in progress.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: It's currently in the editing stage right now.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: And the writing part for me wasn't the hard part.
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: It's a fiction book, so for me, it was therapeutic
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: and it's fun. I love to create stories. But this
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: is the part where I'm finding the struggle because now
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: I feel like this is where the real work comes in.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: And so sitting down editing, cutting things out, correcting things,
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: the nitty gritty stuff, and then.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: You're you're way ahead of the game from me.
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: But the publication process I'm completely green on, so I
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: don't even I'm kind of just going wherever God leaves
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: me in this process. So he gave me, I feel
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: like he gave me the story. So I'm just just
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: kind of like our what we were talking about with
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: our bodies.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: I'm just trying to be a good steward of it
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: and just kind of keep plugging away at it and
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: just kind of see where he goes with it.
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: And uh yeah, So I'm I'm at the early, very
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: early stages.
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: But are you willing to share a working title or
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: is that is that not okay yet.
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's it's uh, it's definitely working title. I
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: don't I don't know if it'll stay. But it's called Lean,
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: Lean through the Fire, and uh, it's it's basically about
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: trials and tribulations that we all go through, believers and
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: non believers.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: It's just part of being in a fallen world.
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: And how one woman goes through different trials and tribulations
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: knowing God and has Jesus as her savior, and the
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: other woman denies that God exists and that you.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: Meet and.
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: Become friends, and just how they approach life differently with
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: those two different worldviews.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: So, and I want to give too.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: Much a way, but sure, yeah, yeah, you say, you
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: say so.
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: I love this because what many might not know about
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: training is you work with people from every walk of life,
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: every belief system, every you know, traumatic background, mental illness,
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: all the stuff. Like I've worked with with CEOs of
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: multi billion dollar companies. I've been with them while they
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: sweat and cry on the leg press, you know. And
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: and then and then I've worked with the uh, the
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: the teacher of fourth graders who's working to lose one
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: hundred pounds, who's also sweating and crying on the leg press.
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: Interestingly enough, just about completely different things, right, and and
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: it's so crazy.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: It's so crazy.
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: You get you get to see so many different stories,
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: You get to see how so many different stories, and
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: you also get to be a part of them because
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: as a trainer, I've had I've had people tell me
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: things that they didn't even tell their spouse. You know,
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: it's like like, like, why am I even saying this
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: to you right now? I'm like, I don't know, man,
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: or just we're next set of dumb bell rows. So
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: so it sounds like you've you've found a way to
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: to take some of the stories you've come up to
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: and kind of condense and distill them in a way
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: that that was fun to write, but also it sounds
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: like it'd be a lot of fun to read.
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's it's fiction. So it's like a contemporary drama.
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: So there's definitely some some humor in it, but there's
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: some tough issues in there as well. But but yeah,
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: my I think just my experience over the years being
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: a personal trainer and dealing with all kinds of people,
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: like you said, very high level executives to stay at
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: home moms. You know, across the board, everyone has a story,
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: which also is super fascinating to me because as a
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: as a writer and an author, I'm sure you experienced this,
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: but it's just that innate desire to create, which I
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: think you know.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: Comes from ultimately the creator.
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: So it's just kind of cool to think of, Oh,
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: I'm I'm driving the story and these characters, and oh,
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: I'm going to make her go through this right now.
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: But that's because she's gonna see, you know, the good
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: in it eventually, you know. So uh, And I think
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: about how God has weaved all of our stories and
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: the people we meet and the connections and how we're
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: just intertwined, you know, with each other for different reasons.
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: It's just very fascinating and inspiring. So I think that's
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: why I love fiction, because I think it reflects the
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: beauty of God and his stories through all of us.
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: Well said, thank you for that. Well, I'm excited to
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: read it. That'll be awesome. And I know it's not
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: out yet, but you do have a newsletter that people
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: can get connected to, and a subtect that you add
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: to regularly and whatnot.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: I've got a link in the show notes below for
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: anybody who wants to follow your work.
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: I really loved and kudos to you. I think I
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: said this on social media, but I actually in getting
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: to know you before we get to actually have a conversation,
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: it's I guess you can call that creeping, but that's
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: what just what you do when you do podcasts and
• 47:01
  Speaker 5: interviews and research doing research, Well, when you meet people electronically,
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: you know, you can't really high five and and whatnot.
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: But but I thought this was was brilliant. You have
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: a video of you doing deadlifts on Instagram with you
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: reading an excerpt from your upcoming book, and I thought
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: that was brilliant because it's like, hey, if this is
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: something that resonates with you, if you if if the
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: whole workout thing in conversations between these two ladies is
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: interesting and informative for you, then then you definitely want
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: to get connected to my books. So I'm going to
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: encourage my listeners if if they've resonated with this conversation,
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: especially if you're a lady, especially if you're wrestling with
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: with real life faith and fitness and everything in between, uh,
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: that that I'd encourage them to get connected to your
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: newsletter and I've got the link in the show notes.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: Thank you, alex Yanad. That would be that would be awesome.
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, as I'm building up my my writing, uh, I
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: guess career, I'm still going to be training, but it's.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: Definitely a passion of mine.
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: So and I just wanted to encourage people and inspire
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: people to grow in their faith and get healthy in
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: all the ways and spiritually.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: So I love it awesome.
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: So as we're wrapping up here because we're coming up
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: on time, you got a client to go train, I've
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: got to go get my workout in or I'm going
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: to go crazy before my boys get home. And so
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: as we're coming up on time here, I did want
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: to ask you just a couple of rapid fire questions
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: about fitness. What is one fitness industry myth that you
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: wish you could kill with extreme prejudice.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: That weights make women bulky?
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: True? That true? That?
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: What would what truth would you replace that with? What
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: do weights actually do for women?
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: Weights actually build your metabolism, which allows you to eat
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: more and stay.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: The same size. So that's a win for a lot
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: of people.
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: And in some ways it can make you denser or smaller,
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: so you might weigh a little bit more, so try
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: not to always go by the scale standard, but you
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: might fit better in your clothes and weigh five pounds heavier.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: That's exactly right, That's exactly right.
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: My wife, she didn't do a lot of weight training
• 49:28
  Speaker 5: before we got together because she has sculliosis in her
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: back and so it always hurt her. And so I
• 49:35
  Speaker 5: like to joke, you know, you married a master level
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: trainer to get over your scoliosis problem. And you know, fine,
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: it's a give and take, right, But she will say
• 49:47
  Speaker 5: that at her at her level of fitness, she's in
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: her late thirties, as a mom of two, at her
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: level of fitness, she weighs more than she did in
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: her twenties, but she fits better in her clothes, she
• 50:01
  Speaker 5: feels better, she's stronger and more capable, which is necessary
• 50:05
  Speaker 5: when you're raising two rambunctious boys.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: And so so I'm with you.
• 50:12
  Speaker 5: I would love to kill that with extreme prejudice, and
• 50:14
  Speaker 5: I would say to the ladies, guys, guys, come on, gals,
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. Anyway, Sisters in Christ, weight
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: training makes you strong, It helps your hormones, it helps
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: your bone density and it's a marvelous, marvelous outlet for
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: you to explore your strength as a woman. Please do it.
• 50:33
  Speaker 5: It's not gonna make you bulky. That's definitely yeah, let's
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: kill that one. Thanks for that, Thanks for that, all right, right,
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: So so one more rapid fire question. That's what that's
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: what practical tip would you give somebody who feels like
• 50:50
  Speaker 5: they've failed in their in their fitness journey.
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: I would say, Well, for one, it's never over till
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: it's over. So I would say, if you feel like, uh,
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: you failed, you got to you gotta shrug it off
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: and and know that you're still here for a reason.
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: And so you need to, you know, to start by walking,
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: start small and then find the little victories.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: And so.
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: You know, just start walking, start lifting small weights. Just
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: go step foot in a gym. You don't even have
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: to do anything. Just go walk around, you know, people
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: watch whatever whatever it is, just to get your feet
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: wet again.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: But just just don't don't give up.
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: So, yeah, there's no real I don't believe that there's
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: failure if you've put in a genuine effort.
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: So and I tell clients all the.
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: Time that you know, maybe they're injured or they dropped off,
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: and then they come back, you know, months or years later,
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: and they feel like they have to start over. I
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: tell them there's no starting over. There's there's d tours.
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: But then you just get back, just get right back
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: on the road.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm hmm.
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: Everything, every every detour teaches a lesson.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 52:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the only failure in fitness is muscle failure anyway,
• 52:10
  Speaker 5: and that's actually good.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: It's just good to do once in a while.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: Once in a while, right, not to failure every time.
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: Don't do that. Don't do that. No, I love that.
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: So I say something similar to individuals, which is, if
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: you're still here, God's not done with you yet exactly,
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  Speaker 5: So you get to you get to keep keep striving
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  Speaker 5: for for what it is He put you here, or
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  Speaker 5: do thanks for that. I think that's that's great, that's
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  Speaker 5: a great tip. So I want to make sure that
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  Speaker 5: you have the last word, and then I want to
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  Speaker 5: pray over you in your upcoming book and your ministry
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  Speaker 5: and your practice. So, so what do you want to
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  Speaker 5: make sure that the listeners hear from you before we
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  Speaker 5: call it a.
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  Speaker 3: Day, Just to incorporate God and to everything in your life.
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  Speaker 4: So even going to the gym even you know, we
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  Speaker 4: pray before me almos, so really incorporate him and you're
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  Speaker 4: eating habit like everything.
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  Speaker 3: It just makes life so much more fuller if.
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  Speaker 4: You if you just remember that you have someone on
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  Speaker 4: your side and that he loves you and he knows
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  Speaker 4: you intimately, and it just makes life better. Just don't don't,
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  Speaker 4: you know, don't take for granted the little things and
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  Speaker 4: have God walk with you through those. So I think
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  Speaker 4: it's easy to compartmentalize things in our faith, but it's
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  Speaker 4: just life is so much richer if you can incorporate
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  Speaker 4: Him and everything.
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  Speaker 5: So well said, well said. What an encouraging conversation, Christina.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you so much for the time and energy spent here.
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  Speaker 2: Do you mind if I pray over you? Not at all?
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  Speaker 4: No, thank you so much for having me. And I
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  Speaker 4: think it's great what you're doing. And you know, keep
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  Speaker 4: keep pressing ahead.
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  Speaker 2: You got it. I won't stop, can't stop, won't stop.
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  Speaker 1: Book.
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  Speaker 4: I just pre ordered or I just got your book,
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  Speaker 4: so oh sweet, I'm looking forward to reading it and
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  Speaker 4: doing it, you know, the forty day daily devotional so
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  Speaker 4: and then sharing it with.
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  Speaker 5: Clients, and I can't wait to hear your thoughts. I
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  Speaker 5: pray you get a lot out of it. That was
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  Speaker 5: it was quite the work.
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  Speaker 3: I bet so.
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  Speaker 4: I'm I definitely look up to you, you know, finishing
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  Speaker 4: it and doing that whole process.
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  Speaker 3: So so thank you for having me. I really appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: You got it.
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  Speaker 5: Let's pray, Father, God, thank you so much for this day.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you for the opportunity to spend time with my
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  Speaker 5: sister Christina, and thank you for the way that you're
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  Speaker 5: using her in her good work working with clients on
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  Speaker 5: the fitness floor and writing. God, I pray that you
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  Speaker 5: will be with her in each session. I pray that
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  Speaker 5: you will put healing in her hands, that you would
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  Speaker 5: put joy in her heart. And I pray that the
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  Speaker 5: way that she conducts herself rubs off on her clients
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  Speaker 5: and is contagious, especially for those who don't know you
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: and want to know what's different about the way Christina
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  Speaker 5: is running her life. And Lord, I pray that you
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  Speaker 5: would give her the words she needs as she writes
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  Speaker 5: with her book, give her the strength to edit and
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  Speaker 5: to separate wheat from chaff. I pray that you'll help
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  Speaker 5: her to prune things because I know how when you
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  Speaker 5: write phrases down and they really matter to you, but
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  Speaker 5: they don't quite fit with the rest of the narrative. Lord,
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  Speaker 5: I pray that you would give her the wisdom she
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  Speaker 5: needs to speak the language that so many need to hear.
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  Speaker 2: God.
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  Speaker 5: I also pray for blessing and peace over her business
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  Speaker 5: and her husband's business. I pray Lord that they would
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  Speaker 5: work well together and that they would make an impact
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  Speaker 5: on the world around them that tends toward vanity. I
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  Speaker 5: also pray that you would help them to steward their
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  Speaker 5: bodies well and to be a light in a dark place.
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  Speaker 2: We love you, Lord in Jesus' name.
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  Speaker 5: Amen, guys, thank you so much for joining us for
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  Speaker 5: the Faithful Fitness podcast. This has been your host coach
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  Speaker 5: Alex van Houten, and you guys know what I'm going
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  Speaker 5: to say next. Until next time, train hard, but pray harder.
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