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Chuck in the Morning 7-31 Hour 4: Mike Macdonald recap, ABC's of the Mariners and One Last Thing · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: All right, coming up right now. I wanted to replace
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Speaker 1: some of the conversation I heard on my drive home.
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Speaker 1: Actually yesterday from training camp, got to see full practice yesterday.
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Speaker 1: Saw a lot of interesting things, but the ride home
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Speaker 1: to hear Mike McDonald on our airwaves with our own
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Speaker 1: e infurness and Hugh Millan as well, who jumped in
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Speaker 1: on the interview. Just some great stuff. Mike McDonald just
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Speaker 1: continues to impress every time he opens his mouth for
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Speaker 1: goodness sake, and so wanted to replace some of those
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Speaker 1: not in one big chunk, but kind of a clip
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Speaker 1: at a time here with Travis Moger and I want
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Speaker 1: to start with Hughes question where he asked Mike McDonald
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Speaker 1: about evolving his defense, because we hear this all the time.
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Speaker 1: We talk about this with coach Mike, Mike Homgeran all
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Speaker 1: the time. Like it's not enough just to come up
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Speaker 1: with a great offensive system. You know that a lot
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Speaker 1: of other really good coaches are analyzing the heck out
3:21
Speaker 1: of what you're doing to try and solve it. And
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Speaker 1: so it's not enough just to have a system. You
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Speaker 1: have to keep staying ahead of that competition. Oh, you
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Speaker 1: got to stay ahead of that competition. You've got to
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Speaker 1: keep evolving your offense or defense because you can't leave
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Speaker 1: yourself vulnerable to those who are studying it. And Hugh
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Speaker 1: asked coach about that very thing.
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Speaker 2: Well, the first thing that I've that I've learned, and
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Speaker 2: this is coming from like football dork that made my
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Speaker 2: bones on a computer watching tape, Like, what's what's going
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Speaker 2: to give us a chance to win games?
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Speaker 1: Is our style? How we play the game.
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Speaker 2: When we say twelve is one, it's like we want
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Speaker 2: to create the feeling that you're playing more than eleven guys,
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Speaker 2: So that that's that's the chemistry, that's the connection, that's
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Speaker 2: the toughness, that's the that's the shape that you're in.
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Speaker 2: You know, that's the clarity what you have to play with.
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Speaker 2: So that's kind of like the non negotiable. But to
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Speaker 2: your point with the scheme, you have to evolve. You
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Speaker 2: have to evolve and the things you know you're gonna
4:20
Speaker 2: evolve from year to year. In the off season when
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Speaker 2: you have those opportunities to kind of study and see
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Speaker 2: where the game's going, where you need to go, maybe
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Speaker 2: maybe include some of the problems they're gonna be able
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Speaker 2: to solve that's coming forward, Like so that that's part
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Speaker 2: of it. During the season, like the seasons evolve, you know,
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Speaker 2: And I think we've gotten into an interesting spot with
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Speaker 2: our divisions, like we all kind of know each other
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Speaker 2: so well that the game plans evolve within the game,
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Speaker 2: you know, right, like you know that they they'll do
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Speaker 2: things that you right, Oh shoot, they're doing that because
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Speaker 2: they realize that we do this, okay, so now we
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Speaker 2: have to So there's like these these little marginal like
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Speaker 2: incremental evolutions that happen in like shorter timeframes too. So
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Speaker 2: but it's kind of like kind of the question like
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Speaker 2: do you sit back and relax, Like no, just we
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Speaker 2: just want to I love, like, what's the next what
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Speaker 2: what do we do next? Teams are going to find something
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Speaker 2: to do against us, and or we might be missing
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Speaker 2: a piece or two pieces or something. You know, the
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Speaker 2: roster's gonna change. And so I think that's just how
5:15
Speaker 2: you have to think about it every day. You know,
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Speaker 2: you just have to try to keep finding new solutions
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Speaker 2: and ways to attack and figure out what teams are
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Speaker 2: gonna try to do it against you.
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Speaker 1: The process then sounds like it's you enjoy the process.
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Speaker 2: It's not like we have like a checklist on the wall,
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Speaker 2: so all right, this is the process.
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Speaker 1: What do we you know? But it's just it's a mentality.
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Speaker 2: I think about how we do business and how we
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Speaker 2: go about you know, our just kind of way life
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Speaker 2: every day.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike McDonald with Ian and Hugh more from all
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Speaker 1: three of them here in a moment, But I did
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Speaker 1: want to react to that. It's a little it's kind
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Speaker 1: of a process of like checks and balances and trying
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Speaker 1: to keep that evolving. I mean, there is a constant
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Speaker 1: challenge of Mike to like his offensive coaches, and he
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Speaker 1: wants the offensive coaches to constantly be challenging him and
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Speaker 1: the way that he's doing things. In other words, Mike
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Speaker 1: McDonald's going to study his offensive coordinators game plan or
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Speaker 1: his offensive coordinators play call or play design, and he's
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Speaker 1: going to say, well, if you do that to me,
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Speaker 1: I'm just going to do this to you. So if so,
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Speaker 1: you need to come up with a better way to
6:19
Speaker 1: do that, because I think that's a simple solution for
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Speaker 1: how to stop that play that you just came up with.
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Speaker 1: So it's this checks and balances process that they go
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Speaker 1: through to try to keep all swords sharp right and
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Speaker 1: also with Mike, and this is what's most exciting, and
6:36
Speaker 1: this is what we don't have to tell rams fans.
6:40
Speaker 1: They can just go on believing that we'll just pay
6:42
Speaker 1: top dollar for every proven player in the National Football
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Speaker 1: League and stuff as many people under the cap, and
6:48
Speaker 1: the hell with the future. They can keep feeling their
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Speaker 1: oats in Los Angeles for winning the offseason. But that's
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Speaker 1: the thing about this team, this organization. They're going to
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Speaker 1: be better this year, and they're gonna be better this
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Speaker 1: year because this is Look how much they improve from
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Speaker 1: year one to two under Mike McDonald's system. And it
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Speaker 1: wasn't just about the players learning or understanding the system.
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Speaker 1: It's a process also in hand with John Schneider of
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Speaker 1: finding the right guys to execute Mike McDonald's system, and
7:21
Speaker 1: you are seeing a completely different type of Seahawk player.
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Speaker 1: You are looking. They are actively looking John and with
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Speaker 1: the heavy, heavy input of Mike. I want versatility out
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Speaker 1: the door with my guys. I want to be able,
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Speaker 1: and they kind of have that this year in their secondary.
7:41
Speaker 1: I want to take a Bud Clark, who everybody's gonna
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Speaker 1: call a safety, but I know I can play him
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Speaker 1: at corner. I know I can play them a strong
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Speaker 1: safety if I need him to. I can play them
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Speaker 1: in nickel, I can play in a dime. I'll find
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Speaker 1: a place I need a player like that, though, that
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Speaker 1: has that ability to play anywhere, and that way, when
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Speaker 1: the off comes up to the line of scrimmage, if
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Speaker 1: I've got enough of those guys, I can shift them
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Speaker 1: around and they don't know who's coming from where. If
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Speaker 1: I've got a versatile defensive tackle like a Byron Murphy
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Speaker 1: and they they've called to play expecting him to be
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Speaker 1: in three technique and they break the huddle and I've
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Speaker 1: got him lining up over the nose. And I also
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Speaker 1: have Nick emn Worri, who I've been playing at linebacker
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Speaker 1: even though everybody calls him safety, and I could put him,
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Speaker 1: I can put him in the slot, I can I
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Speaker 1: can put him just about anywhere on the field. Well,
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Speaker 1: right now, they have a collection like they've never had
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Speaker 1: before in their secondary of guys that they can that
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Speaker 1: can play pretty much any position back there. That is
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Speaker 1: by design, that is strategy, that is three years in
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Speaker 1: the making. Bud Clark, the Thomas kid from Indianapolis who
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Speaker 1: they got under the radar in the offseason, I mean,
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Speaker 1: and they've got a couple like secret little weapons that
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Speaker 1: they think very highly of as well that you're going
9:02
Speaker 1: to get to know. Dansby draft pick Michael Dansby's having
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Speaker 1: a heck of a camp. So that's sort of the genius,
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Speaker 1: and it just doesn't like Mike says, we didn't come
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Speaker 1: across a finish line because we won the super Bowl
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Speaker 1: last year. Hey, we went to work the next day,
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Speaker 1: or at least he did in trying to figure out
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Speaker 1: how to become better going forward. And that process is
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Speaker 1: never going to stop. That evolution is never going to stop.
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Speaker 1: That attempt to be one step ahead of the competition
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Speaker 1: is never going to stop. And the personnel. You don't
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Speaker 1: just get to choose an offseason where you're like, I
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Speaker 1: want that guy, that guy, that guy, that guy, and
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Speaker 1: that guy. You know, you might get one of those
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Speaker 1: guys in the draft, you might get one of those
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Speaker 1: guys in free agency. And yet over the course of
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Speaker 1: three years now together, now that Mike and John are
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Speaker 1: dancing so well together, that this is going to be
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Speaker 1: a much more better roster than even a year ago.
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Speaker 1: In the eyes of Mike McDonald, he now has that
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Speaker 1: versatility and he's gonna have even more guys like that
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Speaker 1: next year unless the league does something to stop him.
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Speaker 1: But that's the vision and the visions just now coming together.
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Speaker 1: They won the Super Bowl last year, and yet Mike
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Speaker 1: McDonald's vision just now is coming together for the type
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Speaker 1: of roster that he wants to execute both his offensive
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Speaker 1: and defensive schemes. And obviously he and John Schneider are
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Speaker 1: on a massive role. We've got the hottest general manager
10:34
Speaker 1: and the hottest head coach in the National Football League
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Speaker 1: and they are in lock step right now. So back
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Speaker 1: to the interview Ian Hugh with coach McDonald, When Ian
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Speaker 1: asked Mike about his working relationship with general manager John Schneider.
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Speaker 2: I think that I don't know if it was a
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Speaker 2: buy in. I think it was an alignment from the
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Speaker 2: get go, and we have two different styles about how
10:58
Speaker 2: we kind of do we do. But like I think
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Speaker 2: we share a vision about like what is really important
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Speaker 2: to us. But in terms of like the atmosphere, we're
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Speaker 2: trying to create in the building, what you know, like
11:09
Speaker 2: Seahawks culture, what that means, you know, and we're building
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Speaker 2: off of what they've built, you know, through you know,
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Speaker 2: Pete and coach Homergan's years and all that. So I
11:18
Speaker 2: don't there wasn't necessarily a bite. Now there's some things
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Speaker 2: that like mechanisms that he did that I wasn't used
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Speaker 2: to and for me, it's like, yeah, of course I
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Speaker 2: want to trust John Schneider.
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Speaker 1: Like you know, he wants this is the way he does.
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Speaker 2: Okay, it sounds great, like we're gonna give this a shot.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 1: So if I came in guns blaze and I'd just.
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Speaker 2: Be absolutely foolish. But when I when I think of
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Speaker 2: our relationship, I think there's so many times even now,
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Speaker 2: but especially in our first first year or two, like
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Speaker 2: where it was so foggy for me and it was
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Speaker 2: just not clear or we were going through something, and
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Speaker 2: he could have easily just came in hot, you know,
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Speaker 2: with with the answer or you know, you know, put
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Speaker 2: his thumb on the scale. But he he created this
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Speaker 2: environment with me where he let me. He just he
12:02
Speaker 2: kind of figured it out so where I could I
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Speaker 2: could come to the conclusion through his like guidance and
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Speaker 2: his help if that makes sense. Yeah, And he's just
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Speaker 2: got so he says he kind of thinks like three
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Speaker 2: dimensionally like that, which is really cool but takes edge off,
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Speaker 2: you know when in all of his interactions. So it's
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Speaker 2: a it's a special combination. And uh, he's a sharp
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Speaker 2: cookie man. I'll tell you what he's he's Uh, he's
12:26
Speaker 2: really impressive.
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Speaker 1: Well, it is. It is a special combination. It's the
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Speaker 1: hottest thing going in the sport right now. It's hotter
12:32
Speaker 1: than Snead and McVeigh. Sorry to tell you that, boys,
12:35
Speaker 1: but it is and and and you know what gets
12:39
Speaker 1: in the way of that is, you know, egos. If
12:42
Speaker 1: somebody one guy thinks the other guy's getting too much credit,
12:46
Speaker 1: or if somebody thinks that, you know, the the grass
12:51
Speaker 1: is greener somewhere else, or that there's a bigger market
12:54
Speaker 1: that they can play in, or a team with one
12:56
Speaker 1: hundred years of storied history and they've always dreamed about
13:00
Speaker 1: being the general manager of the Packers or the head
13:03
Speaker 1: coach of the Dallas Cowboys or whatever the scenario. I mean,
13:08
Speaker 1: there is a way that it ends. But I mean
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Speaker 1: I think that right now this is just the best
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Speaker 1: marriage in the National Football League between these two guys.
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Speaker 1: And I'll say that, and I've said it many times.
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Speaker 1: I think Mike McDonald is the one that stirs the drink.
13:27
Speaker 1: I think John's excellent at what he does. But I
13:30
Speaker 1: also think John, you know, did some things with Pete
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Speaker 1: Carroll that I didn't disagree with. And maybe it was
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Speaker 1: Pete driving that bus I didn't like that they went
13:40
Speaker 1: out of their way to find Doppelganger type replacements for
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Speaker 1: Richard Sherman. I mean, how many guys did they try
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Speaker 1: to draft to be the next Michael Bennett and they
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Speaker 1: all failed? Malik McDowell. You know, everybody said there were
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Speaker 1: red flags Pete at that time, and John by making
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Speaker 1: the selection supported it. You know, a lot of head
14:03
Speaker 1: coaches have a lot of runaway egos of pat Riley
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Speaker 1: has this like, yeah, I know he was not good there,
14:10
Speaker 1: and I know he had an attitude issue there, but
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Speaker 1: he's never played for me before. Uh. And there was
14:16
Speaker 1: a lot of that that went into the selection of
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Speaker 1: Milik pidwell, even though everybody in football was saying stay
14:22
Speaker 1: away from the guy that is just not gonna be
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Speaker 1: a guy that gets drafted in the Mike McDonald ere,
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Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen. Not only does he want football
14:32
Speaker 1: guys not he wants intelligence, he wants commitment, he wants versatility.
14:37
Speaker 1: As I mentioned a few moments ago, he wants team guys.
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Speaker 1: He that Drake Thomas as a starting linebacker for the
14:47
Speaker 1: Super Bowl World champions I met him yesterday and he's
14:51
Speaker 1: built like Travis Moger. You don't know what Travis Moger's
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Speaker 1: built like, but hey, he's I mean he's stockier than you,
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Speaker 1: but he's he There's no way that if he was
15:01
Speaker 1: walking down the street that you would think, oh, there's
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Speaker 1: a starting linebacker for an NFL team. No chance you
15:08
Speaker 1: would think that he's like the largest member of a
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Speaker 1: boy band. That's what you would think about Drake Thomas.
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Speaker 1: And instead here he is saying, no, no, no, no, I
15:19
Speaker 1: don't want those free agents that you got me. This
15:22
Speaker 1: guy'll do fine. I mean, this guy, any of the guys,
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Speaker 1: the five to eleven, two hundred pound guy, is gonna
15:29
Speaker 1: be our linebacker. Yeah, and he's gonna be great. I
15:32
Speaker 1: mean that's the type of stuff that he is looking for.
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Speaker 1: And so those were mistakes. I mean they were the
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Speaker 1: doppelganger era of trying to find the cornerback that was
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Speaker 1: built just like Richard Sherman. You can't play the game
15:48
Speaker 1: that way. I mean, sure, you've got body types that
15:50
Speaker 1: you like, but you're not gonna find a replica replacement
15:54
Speaker 1: for a freak as good as Richard Sherman. I mean,
15:57
Speaker 1: there was so much more than how he was built
16:00
Speaker 1: that went into making the greatness of Richard Sherman. It
16:04
Speaker 1: just can't be replicated. I mean, you can try to
16:06
Speaker 1: find the body type, but they went way too far
16:09
Speaker 1: with that. They went way too far with the Jamal
16:12
Speaker 1: Adams of the world. Arrogant so and sos who came
16:17
Speaker 1: in came into town, thought they were the best in
16:20
Speaker 1: the world, or at least the best in the nation.
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Speaker 1: And then they got here and you found all the
16:26
Speaker 1: flaws in their games. But that's a type of guy
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Speaker 1: that Mike McDonald's never gonna roll the dice on. I'm
16:33
Speaker 1: telling you, never gonna roll the dice on. And so
16:35
Speaker 1: now that John's taking all of his wisdom and his
16:38
Speaker 1: knowledge and he marries it with somebody a lot more
16:40
Speaker 1: grounded in my opinion than what Pete was and a
16:43
Speaker 1: lot more sensible. Now you've got this magical combination going on.
16:48
Speaker 1: Also this offseason, I did want to get to this
16:50
Speaker 1: final clip. Obviously, we have a new, brand new offensive
16:54
Speaker 1: coordinator INNT Brian Fleorey, coming over from San Francisco, and
16:59
Speaker 1: Ian and Hugh both asked Mike McDonald why Brian Fleury.
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Speaker 2: I just I really appreciated how he saw the game
17:06
Speaker 2: and like what was important to him on on how
17:09
Speaker 2: to build an offense. Offense. Well, you know, it's easy
17:13
Speaker 2: to get in an interview and say, hey, we're gonna
17:15
Speaker 2: run this game, and we're gonna be this and we're
17:16
Speaker 2: gonna have all the things, but to him, it was
17:19
Speaker 2: it was about how we play the game. And there
17:22
Speaker 2: was so much parallel to how we want our football
17:26
Speaker 2: team to play, you know, and how we built our
17:28
Speaker 2: offense last year, and how that coincides how we play
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Speaker 2: special teams defense.
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Speaker 1: And I think.
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Speaker 2: Him having been on the other side of the ball
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Speaker 2: and on special team so his career is you know,
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Speaker 2: gives him this three sixty perspective of the game, which
17:40
Speaker 2: is really cool, and he sees how it's all connected.
17:42
Speaker 2: You know, you could tell he's incredibly sharp. He was
17:46
Speaker 2: a great communicator. There's no bs, you know, there's no fluff,
17:49
Speaker 2: which is which I always appreciate. And and he can
17:53
Speaker 2: coach the heck out of a football team, you know,
17:55
Speaker 2: and so being able to have like he can see
17:59
Speaker 2: the quarter back to the lens that the quarterback needs
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Speaker 2: to be coached, but he can also connect that to
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Speaker 2: the timing of routes and how we play combinations up
18:07
Speaker 2: front and how we get in, how we operate, and
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Speaker 2: and he's opening new ideas too. You know, it's not
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Speaker 2: like just like, hey, this is this is non negotiables,
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Speaker 2: you know.
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Speaker 1: From A to Z.
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Speaker 2: It's he's always he's trying to look to get better.
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Speaker 2: And it's not like I'm like critiquing. I'm like, we're
18:21
Speaker 2: working together, you know, where I'm asking him questions, but
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Speaker 2: what he's thinking he's asking me.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 2: It's just it's just kind of a like a tag team,
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Speaker 2: you know, which is a lot of fun.
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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, And that speaks to what I was talking
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Speaker 1: about earlier. They challenge one another and are honest with
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Speaker 1: their answers. That's a crap play. This is what I
18:38
Speaker 1: would do, and I'd take that completely away from you
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Speaker 1: make it better. I mean, that's sort of the chemistry
18:44
Speaker 1: that he has with his coaches, and it's all about
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Speaker 1: just being the best version of themselves. So Mike McDonald
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Speaker 1: talking about Brian Florey who And for those that are
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Speaker 1: wondering or maybe worried, I don't know, it seems like
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Speaker 1: we have solved the San Francis Go forty nine ers offense.
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Speaker 1: No one else has. But it seems like Mike McDonald has.
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Speaker 1: So why would you bring over a guy that ran
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Speaker 1: that offense when you've turned it into men's meat the
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Speaker 1: last two times that you've faced it. Well, it's because
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Speaker 1: the rest of the league hasn't figured it out. And
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Speaker 1: so if you can marry your principles, which Brian Fleury
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Speaker 1: is going to do, he is going to marry. Hey,
19:22
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna take away from you guys what you
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Speaker 1: were doing well under Clint Kubiak. I studied you, I
19:27
Speaker 1: know what you guys do, and I've talked to you,
19:30
Speaker 1: had an entire offseason to kind of get to know you,
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Speaker 1: what you like, what you don't want to see go away.
19:35
Speaker 1: And then I'm gonna steal a few things from my
19:37
Speaker 1: buddy Kyle, who's got a pretty good reputation as being
19:41
Speaker 1: a terrific offensive play caller, bad reputation as a driver,
19:46
Speaker 1: but a good reputation is a play caller. And so
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and I'm gonna steal everything i
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Speaker 1: can from him, and then I'm gonna marry these two
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Speaker 1: things together and we should have the best of both
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Speaker 1: worlds going on here. So that's the idea behind it.
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Speaker 1: It might be an even better combination that I saw
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Speaker 1: a year ago between McDonald and Kubiak. I think there's
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Speaker 1: a chance for that. I'm certainly not going to predict it, because,
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Speaker 1: as Hugh told me throughout the course of the week,
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Speaker 1: you just don't know. He's never been a court play caller, coach,
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Speaker 1: and so there's no way to know how good he's
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Speaker 1: going to be at that. But the personalities, Hugh also
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Speaker 1: said this, here's what I like most about Brian Florey.
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Speaker 1: Mike McDonald chose him. The personalities are definitely meshing right now.
20:36
Speaker 1: They get each other, and I think that they're their
20:39
Speaker 1: own geniuses in their own weird peculiar way. So great stuff.
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Speaker 1: If you want to hear the entire interview, it's available
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Speaker 1: to you at ninety three three kjar dot com. It's
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Speaker 1: Ian Foriness Hugh Millan interviewing Mike McDonald yesterday after practice.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the abcs of the MS
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Speaker 1: teas for terminology, Hugh a couple of times this week
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Speaker 1: and co hosting with me, took an issue with a
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Speaker 1: word that I've used to describe this team in the past,
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Speaker 1: and that is listless. And look, it's a little unfair
21:42
Speaker 1: because I don't think this team doesn't care like a
21:47
Speaker 1: lot of you do. I don't think that this team
21:50
Speaker 1: is just you know, rolling the ball out on the field.
21:54
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the case. I think they care deeply.
21:56
Speaker 1: I think they really passionately want to win. Maybe not
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Speaker 1: all of them. There might be one or two guys
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Speaker 1: that I don't feel that about. But I don't think
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Speaker 1: what we see and perceive as lack of interest or
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Speaker 1: effort or desire has anything to do with those three things.
22:14
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it has more to do
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Speaker 1: with doubt and frustration and scratching their heads for answers.
22:23
Speaker 1: They can't figure out why they're four games under five hundred,
22:26
Speaker 1: any more than I can. But I will say this
22:30
Speaker 1: for those that do send out those tweets about the
22:35
Speaker 1: team's affect, if you will. I have said in the
22:38
Speaker 1: past that they come across as being listless. That's the
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Speaker 1: word that I've used, feeling too tired or low spirited
22:47
Speaker 1: to care about things when they trail or when they're struggling,
22:52
Speaker 1: or when they're in the fifth or sixth and it
22:54
Speaker 1: just feels like they're going through the paces. It does
22:57
Speaker 1: come across as listless. It doesn't mean that I don't
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Speaker 1: think they care. I know that they do. They want
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Speaker 1: to care for their teammate, not just for themselves, not
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Speaker 1: just for that, But it does come off that way.
23:08
Speaker 1: I mean, Travis, correct me if I'm wrong, but I mean,
23:12
Speaker 1: listen the game last night, watching the game, Aaron is
23:15
Speaker 1: sick right now, Aaron Goldsmith's feeling under the weather, and
23:17
Speaker 1: he's trying to preserve his voice, which apparently is hard
23:20
Speaker 1: to do in the loudest stadium on planet Earth. And
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Speaker 1: he is coming across like he's coming across either. I
23:28
Speaker 1: had to send a text to somebody like is he sick?
23:31
Speaker 1: Is he sad? Is he depressed with the way the
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Speaker 1: team's playing, and I was told that he is feeling
23:37
Speaker 1: under the weather and trying to preserve his voice. But
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Speaker 1: his energy during the game, even though he didn't mean
23:44
Speaker 1: to sound listless, was matching the vibe of the team
23:49
Speaker 1: last night. Was it not? Oh?
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Speaker 4: Definitely, he said it almost indifferent at times. But if
23:54
Speaker 4: he's feeling unwell, then I get it.
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Speaker 1: And it's been the last two nights that he's been
23:59
Speaker 1: that way. Yeah, you just watch this team. It's way
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Speaker 1: too talented, a team that does care about each other
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Speaker 1: a lot, and then they especially when they fall behind,
24:09
Speaker 1: and especially when they struggle with offense. It's probably a
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Speaker 1: natural thing to not feel energetic when you're struggling so
24:16
Speaker 1: mightily to try to figure out how to hit in
24:19
Speaker 1: the major leagues. But I get why it does to
24:23
Speaker 1: some people feel like it's coming across as you know,
24:29
Speaker 1: I'm too tired or low spirited to care about things listless.
24:35
Speaker 1: I have a bigger problem when it affects the focus,
24:39
Speaker 1: and I think this has been an unfocused baseball team
24:41
Speaker 1: this year, and I think that falls on the manager.
24:44
Speaker 1: And I'd like to see our low key manager light
24:48
Speaker 1: a little more of a spark. By the way, Jeff
24:51
Speaker 1: Passen commented about Dan Wilson and things he should be fired,
24:56
Speaker 1: So I'm not the only one that way, but I
25:01
Speaker 1: do believe some of that responsibility. If your team comes
25:04
Speaker 1: across to its fan base as frequently as this one has,
25:08
Speaker 1: as even if it is just because they're sad that
25:11
Speaker 1: they aren't performing well, Somebody light a fire, please, because
25:15
Speaker 1: I've watched one hundred and ten games of this and
25:17
Speaker 1: I'm sick of it. All right, you is for useless.
25:20
Speaker 1: There better be a move made with this roster today
25:23
Speaker 1: because right now JP Crawford is useless to this team.
25:28
Speaker 1: I mean, if he's got a wrist injury, please put
25:30
Speaker 1: him on the injury list. This isn't somebody that we
25:33
Speaker 1: can't live without, by the way, but we could use
25:36
Speaker 1: his roster spot because right now we're playing West and
25:39
Speaker 1: Wilson at third base every single inning of every single game,
25:43
Speaker 1: and that just is not worthy of a team trying
25:47
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. I mean, if he has to
25:49
Speaker 1: do it in a pinch here and there, coming off
25:52
Speaker 1: the bench, or maybe a spot start every twenty five
25:55
Speaker 1: games to go back to back games, because you don't
25:58
Speaker 1: have another option to play third base. At this point, somebody,
26:02
Speaker 1: something needs to happen with this Michael Arroyo character here
26:05
Speaker 1: in Tacoma, who's tearing up Tacoma. Let's go ahead and
26:08
Speaker 1: activate him, and either JP goes on the IL or
26:12
Speaker 1: West and Wilson gets waived one or the other. And
26:15
Speaker 1: then if Arroyo can only play short fine Cold can
26:18
Speaker 1: play third. If that's the case, I think that's gonna
26:20
Speaker 1: be the future of your infield. Anyway, Young at second
26:22
Speaker 1: who is special by the way, gosh, he's good. Uh
26:26
Speaker 1: shortstop Arroyo, third baseman Emerson probably is gonna be the
26:29
Speaker 1: future of the infield. Anyway, Let's start it now. I
26:33
Speaker 1: mean we can't. We can't be messing around with this
26:35
Speaker 1: stuff like it's now now. Now's when they we have
26:40
Speaker 1: to play. Well, there's no more waiting around. And you know,
26:45
Speaker 1: Dave Spier can only go a third of an inning
26:48
Speaker 1: because he's too tired. There's no more West and Wilson
26:51
Speaker 1: at third base. There's no more waiting around on this stuff.
26:55
Speaker 1: We'll wait on col because he's the face of the franchise,
26:58
Speaker 1: but that's it. That's all we're gonna wait on from this.
27:02
Speaker 1: No more six man rotation. All of it needs to
27:05
Speaker 1: be scrapped. From this point forward. It is all about
27:08
Speaker 1: doing whatever it takes to win that night's ballgame. And
27:11
Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't want to see the
27:12
Speaker 1: game played any other way. And that includes making a decision.
27:16
Speaker 1: We can't have Weston Wilson playing third base on a
27:19
Speaker 1: team that needs to gain ground to make the playoffs.
27:23
Speaker 1: So make a decision today on what you're going to
27:26
Speaker 1: do if JP can't play. Put him on the injury list.
27:29
Speaker 1: I promise you we're not going to miss him for
27:32
Speaker 1: seven days if he goes on the injury list. I
27:36
Speaker 1: can promise you that. I've been really hard on him
27:38
Speaker 1: this year, but I just don't see any reason to
27:42
Speaker 1: overvalue that guy anymore. Yeah, and uh, I'll leave it there.
27:48
Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave it there. I was gonna go into versatility,
27:50
Speaker 1: but I think I've kind of covered that a little
27:53
Speaker 1: bit here, So I guess we'll have a different vword
27:56
Speaker 1: on the Monday. All right, Coming up next here on
27:59
Speaker 1: the radio show, we got one last thing to close
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Speaker 1: out the show, one last thing to close out the week.
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Speaker 1: Sports Radio ninety three point three KHRFM. Oh what a
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Speaker 1: week We've had here at Seahawks training camp. We got
28:24
Speaker 1: another beautiful day ahead. They are man, there's a lot
28:27
Speaker 1: of activity going on around here. They are really taking
28:30
Speaker 1: this to the next level here today. So training camp
28:35
Speaker 1: getting ready to start here again on this Friday. It'll
28:38
Speaker 1: celebrate till one week of training camp football season is here.
28:41
Speaker 1: It's been a blast to be in here, thanks to
28:43
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, thanks to Hugh Millen. Wanted to thank him
28:46
Speaker 1: on the air as well for being out here with us.
28:49
Speaker 1: That's a lot of time, a lot of early mornings
28:52
Speaker 1: for Hughes Soon. We appreciate him and providing his unique
28:55
Speaker 1: insights all week long. But we close things out as
28:59
Speaker 1: we always do well. Typically we do Friday with Booze News,
29:02
Speaker 1: but it doesn't make sense with Travis Moger back at
29:04
Speaker 1: the studio in me out here at the Seahawks training facility.
29:08
Speaker 1: So we'll do how we normally do it during the
29:11
Speaker 1: week with one last thing, Travis laid on me. What's
29:13
Speaker 1: your one last thing for the week?
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Speaker 4: All right, Well, I play COREC soccer, pretty laid back.
29:20
Speaker 4: I had a game last night in the Seattle Rats League,
29:23
Speaker 4: Seattle Recreational adult team soccer, and we're in an over
29:28
Speaker 4: thirty league, so everyone on the team has to be
29:30
Speaker 4: thirty years old or over. You can have two players
29:33
Speaker 4: younger than that. Okay, before our game, there was a
29:37
Speaker 4: team on the field of all older gentlemen.
29:40
Speaker 1: They must have.
29:40
Speaker 4: Been fifty plus, okay, some look to be in their sixties,
29:45
Speaker 4: maybe their seventies. I just wanted to give them a
29:47
Speaker 4: shout out for playing their asses off out on the field,
29:51
Speaker 4: looking better than my team has ever lost.
29:55
Speaker 1: And really there's a reason that they're out there at
29:57
Speaker 1: that age because they're probably pretty good.
30:00
Speaker 4: I mean, some of them were very good. Some were
30:04
Speaker 4: slower than others. But I just wanted to shout them out,
30:07
Speaker 4: give them props for still being out there. Hopefully, when
30:10
Speaker 4: I'm at that age, I'll be out playing soccer, you know,
30:14
Speaker 4: bumping heads with people. Yeah, throwing my body around. That's
30:18
Speaker 4: all I can hope for. And I just I thought
30:20
Speaker 4: that was really inspirational watching them out there.
30:23
Speaker 1: Very good, very good. How's your game these days? It's
30:26
Speaker 1: it's pretty good.
30:27
Speaker 4: I'm pretty happy with it. Yeah, I score a goal
30:30
Speaker 4: here and then yeah.
30:32
Speaker 1: I remember I was thirty five ish thirty five, and
30:36
Speaker 1: we played flag football every Saturday. The people that I
30:39
Speaker 1: worked with. We had a pretty good, you know, battle
30:43
Speaker 1: like we had ten twelve good people, and occasionally we'd
30:45
Speaker 1: bring girlfriends and stuff like that. So it was fun.
30:48
Speaker 1: It's a really great pastime. And I remember that I
30:53
Speaker 1: got hitting the air making a catch and I did
30:55
Speaker 1: make the catch, by the way, a touchdown, and yet
31:00
Speaker 1: I got driven into the ground. I mean, it's flag football,
31:02
Speaker 1: but I got driven into the ground by this fool
31:04
Speaker 1: and he broke my collar bone. And so I ended
31:10
Speaker 1: up going to the emergency room for that. And I'm
31:13
Speaker 1: sitting in the emergency room and there was a guy
31:15
Speaker 1: and he goes, what happened to you? I said, Uh,
31:18
Speaker 1: hurt my shoulder playing flag football. He goes your age.
31:21
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm thirty five. Wait when did you give
31:25
Speaker 1: up on life for goodness sake? Wow? Yeah, that's so that.
31:30
Speaker 1: My point is like that older mentality, they don't they
31:34
Speaker 1: didn't really grow up thinking that they would still be
31:36
Speaker 1: playing sports after thirty five, forty years old. I like
31:39
Speaker 1: that your age got raised on. There's no reason to
31:44
Speaker 1: ever stop like, keep playing, keep playing, stay active. I
31:47
Speaker 1: love it. Yeah, I'm going to actually talk about my
31:51
Speaker 1: sports history. I brought up earlier, and because Bucky and
31:57
Speaker 1: Ashley have never asked, because they're never interested in me.
32:01
Speaker 1: I brought up to Daniel Lourie, first time it's ever
32:03
Speaker 1: been brought up. I did play. So there's the Little
32:06
Speaker 1: League World Series and once upon a time there used
32:09
Speaker 1: to be this thing, and it wasn't televised so people
32:11
Speaker 1: who weren't aware of it, but the Continental World Series.
32:16
Speaker 1: And it was not just teams from various parts of
32:20
Speaker 1: the country, it was all star teams from various parts
32:24
Speaker 1: of the country. So in other words, we would have
32:26
Speaker 1: kicked the crap out of any Little League World Series
32:29
Speaker 1: champion that ever existed. So I played on one of
32:32
Speaker 1: these teams. I was thirteen years old. I grew fast
32:35
Speaker 1: for my age. I was a pretty good player, and
32:37
Speaker 1: I did play on the Continental World Series team out
32:39
Speaker 1: of Saint Louis. I was on that team. We were
32:42
Speaker 1: the Hazelwood Flames. Had the coolest uniforms you've ever seen
32:45
Speaker 1: in your life at any level. They were unbelievable, and
32:49
Speaker 1: so I did. I played in that at age thirteen,
32:52
Speaker 1: played in the National Championship game. I started that game
32:57
Speaker 1: against the team out of Ohio, Cincinnati, Ohio, and we
33:01
Speaker 1: did lose two to one. But I threw a two
33:03
Speaker 1: hitter in that game, So yes, I did do that.
33:07
Speaker 1: I wasn't making that up when I was talking to
33:09
Speaker 1: Daniel Laurie earlier in the show. I actually did play
33:14
Speaker 1: at age thirteen in kind of a Little League World
33:17
Speaker 1: Series format, only a super one where every kid had
33:21
Speaker 1: a beard. Yeah, I mean, I mean four hundred foot
33:25
Speaker 1: home runs. Oh yeah, there were like two or three
33:28
Speaker 1: a game. I'm not kidding you that. I mean these
33:30
Speaker 1: were all just all star teams that were out there
33:34
Speaker 1: on the field. So I've never had a chance to
33:36
Speaker 1: talk about it. It's never come up on the show.
33:38
Speaker 1: So I wanted to spend my one last thing talking
33:41
Speaker 1: about my athletic prowess, Travis Moger about that. I love.
33:46
Speaker 1: What we do on the show is make fun of
33:48
Speaker 1: my athletic history, and so, you know what, I wasn't
33:52
Speaker 1: too bad of an athlete once upon a time.
33:54
Speaker 4: When was the last time you picked.
33:55
Speaker 1: Up a baseball? A baseball?
33:57
Speaker 4: A baseball?
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't really throw anymore because I
34:03
Speaker 1: ruined my shoulder and then the collarbone thing didn't so
34:07
Speaker 1: I can't really throw anymore, but I can swing a bat. Yeah,
34:10
Speaker 1: I go out. Yeah, I still to the last week.
34:14
Speaker 1: I swung a bat a few times. Yeah, and I
34:17
Speaker 1: was a pitcher. I was not a very good hitter.
34:20
Speaker 1: I wasn't bad, but I wasn't a very good hitter.
34:22
Speaker 1: But yeah, I won't ever play in a league or
34:25
Speaker 1: anything like that. But sure, yeah there you go.
34:29
Speaker 4: Maybe one of those like drinking softball leagues.
34:32
Speaker 1: You know. No, I did that too for a while.
34:35
Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm I'm kind of over all that rec
34:38
Speaker 1: league stuff. I'm past that way. I mean, I admire
34:41
Speaker 1: your guys too, from your your soccer guys, I admire
34:44
Speaker 1: them too. I've just retired from that. So all right,
34:48
Speaker 1: that'll do it for us today. Thanks for being with us.
34:50
Speaker 1: Greg Bells coming your way next here on the radio station,
34:54
Speaker 1: so he's of course here from training camp as well.
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Speaker 1: I'll talk to you on Monday six am. Have a
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