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Episode 395: Insights into the Georgetown McDonough Flex MBA Online · Clear Admit MBA Admissions Podcast

• 0:16
  Speaker A: Welcome to the Clear Admit MBA Admissions Podcast. I'm your host, Graham Richmond, and today we're going to be exploring an increasingly popular format for management education, the Flex mba. Is it part time, full time online on campus? To dig into this topic and answer these questions, I thought it would be instructive to look at one program in particular that is breaking new ground, the Flex MBA online at Georgetown McDonough's School of Business. I've actually invited along two very special guests to help speak to how this program at McDonough Works. First up, I'm thrilled to have Ann Kilby joining us today. Ann serves as the Associate Dean of MBA Admissions for the full time MBA, Flex MBA and Flex MBA online programs at Georgetown McDonough School of Business, setting the admissions strategy and chairing the admissions committee for MBA enrollment. She has spent 16 years in higher education, mainly in the areas of admissions and recruiting. Anne received a Master's in public administration from NYU's Wagner School of Public Policy, specializing in international policy and management. She also has a Bachelor's in Political Science with a minor in Mathematics from North Carolina State University. So welcome Ann.
• 1:38
  Speaker B: Thanks, Graham. Excited to be here.
• 1:40
  Speaker A: We will also hear today from Shreya Conde. And Shreya is currently an MBA candidate at Georgetown's McDonough School of Business in the Flex MBA Online program where she is a Forte Fellow and served as a cohort representative. She's on track to graduate in 2026 and in parallel to pursuing her MB, Shreya is an ultra high net worth and Institutional Advisory Specialist at ubs. Shreya holds a Bachelor of Science in Business and technology management from NYU's Tandon School of Engineering with a minor in Business Studies from NYU Stern. So welcome Shreya.
• 2:21
  Speaker C: Thank you so much for having me, Graham. This program means a lot to me and so I'm excited to be here and to be able to share my experience so far.
• 2:28
  Speaker A: Yeah, it's great to have you both. I know that I've said this on past podcasts that I've recorded, but it's just so wonderful to be able to connect with a current student and someone from the program in the form, in this case with Ann. So SRI and Ann, just so thrilled to have both of you to lend your perspectives today. Let's dive in. I have a lot of different questions that I wanted to ask and the first one, Anne, is for you and I just want to kind of get your take on this. The MBA has so many formats and as I kind of alluded to when we Started here. There's the traditional kind of full time time in person, but there's also online. You see a lot of words tossed around hybrid Flex, not to mention different entry points, like people could do, you know, early career, mid career executive. So tell me a little bit about McDonough's Flex MBA online offering. Like how is it structured and who's it for?
• 3:21
  Speaker B: Absolutely. So you're right that in our MBA portfolio we offer the full time mba, we have the flexible mba, which is our part time program in person. And then we have our Flex MBA online program. We are recruiting now for our third intake. So it's still relatively new and we designed it for full time working professionals and they need to live within plus or minus 3 hours time zone to Eastern Standard Time. And these people are seeking a more flexible structure to learning, to their learning environment. And they also want to take advantage of the unique offerings that we have at Georgetown. So it's a really beautiful combination of having the access to the core strengths of the Georgetown curriculum with flexibility. And so how we do that. I know you asked how it's structured. All core and elective courses, except for the in person residencies, they are held Monday through Thursday from a 6:30 to 9:20pm Eastern Time Zone window. They're a mixture of synchronous and asynchronous classes. Either synchronous will be the first half or the second half. And it allows the students to interact with the professors and peers in real time. But also combining the online learning so that we can provide this flexible yet comprehensive educational experience. Experience, yeah.
• 4:58
  Speaker A: It just sounds like an amazing offering in the sense that, you know, because of the way it's structured, you can work full time. And we're going to hear all about this from Shreya, I'm sure. But yeah, it just seems like something that's very much adapted to the current times in which we're living. And so on that note, I did want to turn to you, Shreya, and just ask like, what drew you to this program at McDonough? And you know this format specifically. Right. So could you walk us through your process for choosing which MBA programs to target?
• 5:25
  Speaker C: Yeah, absolutely. So I was actually immediately drawn to McDonough's Flex online program because like Ann mentioned, it truly offers the best of both worlds. You get the prestige and the rigorous curriculum and standards of Georgetown University as well as the flexibility of an online format. So when I was doing research on other grad schools and programs, my work hours were extremely inconsistent. I didn't know if I was going to be moving out of Virginia. So I honestly was looking for something that was just convenient, but still a program that also wouldn't compromise the quality of my education. And so then Georgetown's commitment to this hybrid structure with in person residencies, a global component, it really resonated with me. And to kind of add to that, I'd also attended a couple of pre admissions events. Georgetown does a preview day where you get to do like a mock MBA class as well. And so I was really impressed by the attentiveness and the care that the faculty gave during this entire event. Some follow ups after the event to make sure, you know, get a pulse check of how we were doing. Just kind of support for career services, access to alumni networks. I just felt like McDonough offered it all.
• 6:43
  Speaker A: Okay, yeah, this is really interesting and I guess I want to get into some of the nitty gritty. Anne, maybe you can help us on this one. I mean, I just want to make sure I really understand the way that Flex MBA Online works. So you mentioned that this sort of residence period, and I believe there are two of them during the program. So would you be willing to just elaborate on how those work and maybe just speak more broadly to the access that students in the program have to campus if they want to come more often than just those two residency periods?
• 7:15
  Speaker B: Yes, I'm happy to. So we offer, you're correct that we offer two in person residencies. These are required, built into the curriculum. One occurs at the beginning of the program and then one will be in the second year. And this, these really allow the students to come back to campus, go through in person courses, meet with peers, faculty, students, networking, really create that bond, create that community that we're known for at Georgetown because we really pride ourselves on community based learning. And so this is one way to integrate and implement that in the program. And then in terms of other access points. So in addition to these required in person residencies, we also give our Flex MBA Online students access to come and take classes on campus. So they could take classes with the Flex MBA students at nighttime, for example, or even register for daytime classes with the full time students. But the caveat is if they can come to campus and meet those schedules so the access is available to them if it's conducive. And lastly, for an access point for career services, which I know we'll talk more about later, all on campus programming for MBA career events are available to flex MBA students. So if they know they're traveling through the D.C. area. Or again, if they're local, we welcome them to campus, make it your home, like the Flex mba and full time students. Make it, study with us, attend events and even classes while you're here.
• 8:59
  Speaker A: Okay, so, and this is why I'm so happy that we have Shreya along with us today too, because I want to know now exactly, like, what has your time on campus been like? I mean, so you, presumably you've done the first residency period since that was something you do at the outset. And I just wondered like. Yeah, I mean, on paper it sounds like what a great way to ensure that an online experience has that community. Because you've met everyone, right, as part of the residency period. But yeah. Are you otherwise active on campus? You know, do any of the activities that you're engaged in, like sort of bring you to campus and yeah, just tell us a little bit about how these experiences, you know, whether it's the residency or subsequent times on campus, have sort of shaped your experience on campus.
• 9:41
  Speaker C: Yeah, absolutely. So I am in a fortunate position when it comes to the online program that I do live about 20 minutes away from campus because I do live in Northern Virginia. And so last year, in my first year of the program, I was our cohort representative for the online cohort. So I did spend a little bit more time on campus. And before classes actually started last year, I did spend a lot of time meeting new people, doing the different dinners that they hosted and different events. So I was able to build a smaller network on campus before I actually joined the program. And I now am still friends with some people from the other cohorts. So I do find myself on campus a little bit more. But not to say that, you know, if I lived farther away, I wouldn't be because when some of our online cohort members who live, let's say, on the west coast come into dc, I get to show them around, I get to take them on campus. So I do feel like there is still that connection to the D.C. campus. But honestly for me, both of the residency, so I did one last year at the start of the program and then one this year. They have been my favorite part of the entire program so far. I was, you know, naturally very nervous about the relationships and network that I'd be able to create throughout my online experience. But the residencies made me feel so much better. The in person interactions with people that I spend every single week with online really helped me put faces to different names, build those friendships. And not only, you know, friendships, but these long term relationships. And in general feel connected to Georgetown's culture and campus, which sometimes gets lost virtually. So I would say that having that time together at the start of the program last year really set the tone for what the next three years were going to look like. And it just made it easier to collaborate online, specifically when it comes to group projects. And then this year, the residency was honestly just fun. We were encouraged to go Explore Georgetown and D.C. for some of us who lived locally, we took them to our favorite spots in D.C. and since we again all spend almost every week together virtually, it was just nice to catch up and be there for each other. And so to answer your question, I left both residencies really excited to start the upcoming school years. And it just gave me a sense of belonging and community. And I think I can speak for my entire cohort when I say that we're so, so excited for next year's residency, which will be abroad.
• 12:13
  Speaker A: Oh, wow. Interesting. I'll have to ask more about that, but I think it sounds like, it does sound like the way they've mapped it out is really working in the sense that you've had these residency experiences and they've really cemented the bonds that you forged with your classmate made. So that's terrific. I do want to, I know you're working at UBS and you know, we'll get, maybe get more into that later. But I know for some candidates, and this may or may not be the case for you, Shreya, but Anne, maybe you can speak to this. Some candidates are using the mba, you know, to maybe make a career change or they're looking for, you know, something new. And so career services is often like a point of concern or something that candidates are looking at. And I wondered, you know, in some cases we hear candidates saying, well, am I not going to have the same level of access or service as I would if I was like full time on campus type MBA student? And so can you Ann, walk us through more on McDonough's policy with respect to kind of career services for folks in the, you know, online Flex program?
• 13:20
  Speaker B: Absolutely. So the majority of Flex MBA online students are what we would qualify as career enhancers, though certainly there is a population of career switchers or entrepreneurs. Regardless, all of these individuals can benefit from the services that we offer in the MBA Career center. So Flex MBA Online students actually have the same access to the Georgetown McDonough Career center as the full time MBA students as the Flex MBA students. And you will not find this at our peers. So this is a really unique Advantage that we offer our Flex MBA online students. So what that looks like is our career center is structured in what's called an industry vertical model, where we have certified career coaches overseeing the different verticals. So consulting, financial services, real estate, et cetera, et cetera. And these individuals help support our students and enhancing their resume and career and cover letters, preparing for interviews, negotiating salaries or negotiating promotions. They can help our students really navigate those difficult conversations with their employers. And then, as I mentioned earlier, certainly our Flex MBA online students will have access to all of the online programming that the career center offers and are supporting recruiters. However, if a Flex MBA Online student wants to travel in or is local because they see an upcoming event on the calendar that really fits their career interest and goals, we would welcome them. They are part of our community in the full way that the rest of our MBA students are. So again, this ongoing access to the career center and then lastly, I'll mention in the final year of their studies with us, that's when they start to go through more formal recruitment. If they are wanting to change jobs post MBA because our recruiters are wanting to, that's their timeline, wanting to hire quickly. So rather than going through recruitment when you've still got three years to go, you start recruitment and you're fine final year. So access along the way. But then the more formal recruitment happens that last year.
• 15:43
  Speaker A: Okay, so. And I just want to underline something for, you know, everyone listening and that is that, you know, Ann, it is unusual that your kind of students at any, you know, whether they're online Flex or traditional kind of full time in person have that level of access to career services. So I just want everyone to know this is not this. It's rare. There are a lot of schools where that is not the case and there's a lot of complaining as a result of that. So it sounds like you guys have a good solution there. Shreya, I know I kind of hinted at this a moment ago and I want to come back to you on the career stuff. So if you're willing, like can you share with us a little bit about your kind of career goals and have you tapped into any of the career services offerings of the Flex MBA online? And yeah, just any, any where are you headed? And are you an accelerator? I mean, you know, I don't know how much you can reveal at this stage.
• 16:37
  Speaker B: Right.
• 16:37
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 16:37
  Speaker A: Happy to hear. Anything you can share.
• 16:39
  Speaker C: Yeah, absolutely. So I'd say that my career goals coming into the program were to be able to shift horizontally, but also scale virtually. And so, in other words, I wanted to have options within my current industry, but also have the flexibility to explore other industries. And this program has been instrumental in moving me closer to both of those goals. As you mentioned earlier, my background was in technology management at nyu. So that's what I did my undergraduate studies in. And then I now work in the financial services industry. So everything I've learned about financial services has been on the job. And so I really wanted a foundational education in business and all things business, which is why I came to Georgetown in the first place. And so what was really helpful for me from the career services team was before we started the program last year, we had summer deliverables, which gave us one on one coaching sessions and essentially helped us refine our resume and explore what our personal brand is. And so the team had done some other like, workshops and virtual career fairs that I've since joined. And I'm hoping that this upcoming year I can be even more connected to some of our, you know, industry contacts that Georgetown offers and other resources that I wouldn't have had access to otherwise. But I think what's really important here to point out is that the career services team has like a plethora of resources, almost too many that I don't know where to begin just yet. And so they have personal advisors as well. I just had an advisor reach out to me at the start of this kind of second year. So I'm really, really excited to get that process started, see all of the different opportunities that are available, but it's very easily accessible, the entire services team. And I know that I'm in good hands as I try to either shift or scale or pivot in my career.
• 18:37
  Speaker A: Okay, excellent. I want to ask Ann a question, and you mentioned this before when you're talking about the structure, you know, the kind of evening courses Monday through Thursday, you know, I think what, 6:30 to 9:20 or whatever the timeframe in the evening is. But you also talked about synchronous coursework and some asynchronous. But I really noted that, you know, this kind of, that there's a lot of synchronous coursework. And it's sort of interesting and I would argue maybe not necessarily the norm for online learning. Like a lot of online learning is asynchronous. And I wondered like what prompted this approach and, and that sort of what it means for eligibility. I mean, you did talk earlier about there's sort of a time zone constraint. Right. So plus or minus three hours, you said but yeah, so walk us through some of this.
• 19:22
  Speaker B: Yes. So based on my experiences and competitor research, what I see in the market are online programs where they offer asynchronous, previously recorded faculty teachings and then they have live discussions. So that's been the more traditional model that I've seen. However, at Georgetown, McDonough, the Flex MBA online structure is completely different. And what we are doing is simulating in person classes. So how we do that is we are having synchronous coursework where you are interacting with the faculty, with your peer, so that you can embrace these diverse interactions, these diverse perspectives that we're so well known for at Georgetown. You know, we're fortunate to have such a great global brand and reputation. You'll find a lot of individuals who have had global experiences studying, living, working abroad, about 3/4 of them actually dual citizens. And then the faculty themselves are extremely diverse. So again, we want to simulate in person classes, which is why we believe synchronous learning is necessary, but also from an efficiency standpoint and to embrace our enhanced technologies. There is an asynchronous component too. But the bottom line is we do not believe that 100% asynchronous will help the students learn in the same way. So it really underscores Georgetown's community based culture and that we recognize the value and benefits of our community and we have created the Flex MBA online structure to really embrace that.
• 21:12
  Speaker A: Okay. Yeah, so, so, and I'm, I'm on board with that. Like, I really, I. Maybe I'm a bit old school, but I just think that it just feels like the right way to do it and to maximize kind of learning potential. But I do want to ask you, Shreya, do you feel that, you know, that this method has been helpful and you know, all students being kind of within three hours time zone wise of dc, does that make for a better experience in terms of group work?
• 21:40
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 21:40
  Speaker A: Just tell me a little bit more about what has it been like working with your classmates remotely?
• 21:44
  Speaker C: Yeah, absolutely. And before I jump into your question, I do want to add on to Ann's comments about. When I first heard about an online or virtual program, I immediately thought, oh, there will probably be like a zoom or a virtual environment just set up in a classroom and we just join into this in person class. What I didn't expect was this very high production quality videos which make the lecture setup so easy to follow, like their graphics, their subtitles. It's almost like a Khan Academy video. And so I was really, really impressed coming into the program. And I think it's also a testament to our professors who have taken the time to adapt to the virtual environment and really, really take their time to make these videos the best that they can be. And so I just wanted to point that out. But to answer your question, yes, the proximity in time zones does make the coordinating the group work easier, but at the same time it avoids many of the logistical challenges that do come with some of the global online programs. And honestly, working with my classmates has been very smooth and very productive. And I think that's thanks to both the flexible program structure and the accommodations or the different tools that we've been given. But again, like, the program isn't just called Flex, it truly is flexible. And I think that Georgetown has created an online environment that's very manageable and engaging and you know, group projects, discussions, breakout sessions where we get to talk one on one. It's just a very full circle, well rounded experience.
• 23:21
  Speaker A: Okay, yeah, good to know. And I think, you know, you're talking about flexibility and it's a perfect. I don't know if you did this on purpose. It's a perfect segue into something that I wanted to ask, which is there's a lot of flexibility in the program, even when we talk about how long you could take to complete it. Right. So I think the range is sort of 24 to 60 months time that someone could go through this program. So Ann, could you tell me more about how that works? And also like, is there a sweet spot or a sort of kind of most common pathway that people take through the program or. Yes, yeah, just walk us through some of that.
• 23:55
  Speaker B: So under the umbrella of flexibility, definitely one of the flexible options for the Flex MBA online is the duration. So as you mentioned, Graham, there is the optionality of completing in 24 months, up to 60 months. The reason why we're offering this flexibility is because we recognize that people, our students are full time working professionals, often balancing family life or different personal commitments. And they might need to have this option to speed it up or slow it down. And this is not something that even has to be decided upon entry. This is something that can be. The pacing can be changed on a semester, by semester basis when you are registering for classes. So flexibility up front, but also flexibility within. And in terms of the sweet spot, you know, we're just two years in, so we need a bigger sample size to determine. But typically the pacing that we hear students are aiming for, and if we do model after the part time Flex MBA program, it tends to Be about three years. That's where you're taking generally two classes at a time. But again, if you want to stretch it out, take one class at a time for the electives. That would look like 60 months. So there's. It really is make it your own.
• 25:26
  Speaker A: So I guess maybe this is a question for Shreya. I wanted to know, talk a little bit about your path through the program thus far and how many classes are you typically taking in a semester? And I mean, this is maybe down into the weeds, but if you're taking, let's say, two classes in any given semester, does that mean that you literally have something Monday through Thursday, like each night? Or how are they typically structured? And yeah. What's your sort of. It sounded like. I mean, I know you mentioned you might try to be finished in 26. Right. So. But yeah, tell us a little bit about the path you're taking through and what it means in terms of, you know, your time. Time commitment.
• 26:05
  Speaker C: Yeah. So the way. And I've been following kind of the sample curriculum that has been given to us just to make my life a little bit easier. But I usually take a class across the entire semester. So four months. And then we also each semester is broken up into mod 1 and mod 2, or in the spring, mod 3 and mod 4. So then I take a class per mod. So total over a course of four months. I do complete three classes, but at a time there are only two classes. So I just started Mod 2 yesterday. But that means that I am usually in class Mondays and Wednesdays. This upcoming mod, I'll be in class Wednesday and Thursday, so it's usually days a week. But like you said, I am aiming to complete the program by 2026. I've just taken on a new role at my current job, so I'm still adjusting to the change, but also because I'm getting married next year. So that's very exciting. I get, you know, that flexibility in the program. So since I'm getting married in the later half of the year, I can kind of double up on some classes earlier in the year and then do have a lighter schedule leading up to the wedding. But the nice thing is that my fiance is also in grad school and is also graduating in 2026. So with the flexibility of our program, I was able to align our timeline nicely. And the program really does offer us the advantage of customizing the pace at which we finish the program. So I do feel like I can balance my schoolwork with work, work and other commitments without really feeling Rushed or stressed or pressure to finish by a certain date.
• 27:42
  Speaker A: Got it. Well, congratulations. This might be the first time that someone's announced something like that on the show. Although I presume everyone else in your circle of friends knows. But anyway. Okay, so I guess one of just kind of. While we're talking about this, though, I am curious. So when you say this semester, for example, or for this mod you've got, it sounds like Wednesday and Thursday. Is it, you know, from that sort of 6:30 to not? Like, is it the whole timeframe that Anne had alluded to earlier or is it sort of, is there a break? Like, how do you manage? I mean, I'm thinking of silly things like do you get a break to eat? Like, how does it work in terms of managing your evening?
• 28:19
  Speaker C: So the nice thing about Flex Online is that it's broken into asynchronous and synchronous. So our asynchronous material is, you know, like Ann said, all of the work that we do ourselves, I usually do it over the weekends. And then the synchronous portion Monday and Wednesday is actually only from 8pm to 9:30 or 9:20pm okay. Every Monday and Wednesday. So it's only an hour and a half. It's much more doable. That does mean that we have more asynchronous material that we need to do ourselves at our own time. But that 8 o'clock time really works for our students who are on the west coast or in different time zones because they can join right after they work or end work. So they join in for us at like 5pm their time and then we get started 8pm so no, we don't really get a break because there is a lot to cover between 8 to 9:20, so an hour and a half, Monday and Wednesday. But I personally really like that I have so much more control over the timing of my work. I usually set out certain times Saturday, Sunday, and it's also just easier to schedule group work.
• 29:23
  Speaker A: Yeah. Okay. I appreciate you like digging deep into how you're. How this is sort of laying out for you. Really, really helpful, I think, for our listeners. I did want to ask a final question and actually just to each of you, so we'll start with you. Anne, is there something else that you want people to know about Flex MBA Online at McDonough?
• 29:42
  Speaker B: Yes. First, I wanted to offer a bit of context around the synchronous timing. As, as Shreya just mentioned, 8 to 9:20pm is what she's seeing for her synchronous it can either be the first half of the class or the second half of the class.
• 29:58
  Speaker A: Okay.
• 29:58
  Speaker B: So it could be the 6:30 to 7:50pm Eastern time or the 8 to 9:20pm Eastern time. So just wanted to put that out into space.
• 30:07
  Speaker A: Okay.
• 30:08
  Speaker B: And then the second thing that I want to make sure to share, Shreya alluded to this and I think dangled the carrot around the global immersion that she's looking forward to. And I wanted to talk more about that. So in addition to the two required in person residencies on campus in D.C. the students also have required what's called the global business experience. All MBA students, the full time MBAs, the part time Flex MBAs, and the Flex MBA online students complete the global business experience. So it's built into all of our curricula and this is their international consulting project where within small groups they are working with a real life client on a real life consulting project. So it guarantees international consulting and as part of that experience they are going on the ground with the client for about a week. And so that is international on the ground consulting access. So these are short, intensive trips, but they're really meaningful. I've heard them talked about as the capstone of the program where the students are really pulling together all of the learnings to now apply them in this space. And again, it just takes advantage of our competitive advantage at Georgetown of being a global program. This is a way that we practice what we preach. So wanted to make sure that was known because. Because I think it's a real highlight of the program.
• 31:36
  Speaker A: I'm glad that you brought that up because when Shreya hinted at this international, global kind of consulting experience, I wondered where and when that happened. So super helpful. Is this something where the students go in any sense of the size of the group that gets put on a project? And are multiple groups heading to the same city to deliver projects or is it really all over the map and different sizes depending on the projects?
• 32:02
  Speaker B: Yeah, so the group size varies because it depends on preferences. We do allow the students to rank their preferences based on the projects that we have pulled together. But typically I would say the student groups are anywhere from like three to eight students. And in terms of location, all of the projects are going to be in one country, but you're going to have a variety of industry representation, a variety of consulting types of projects so that you can list your preference there.
• 32:40
  Speaker A: Right.
• 32:40
  Speaker B: And customize.
• 32:42
  Speaker A: And does the country change from time to time or is it.
• 32:45
  Speaker B: I presume it will. It will change from time to time, I guess.
• 32:49
  Speaker A: Oh, this is new, right? Because this is the. Probably the first. Exactly. If the program is two years old, then you. Yeah, okay, now I'm getting it. Yeah. So you guys are. So are you willing to unveil where the country is for this first set?
• 33:02
  Speaker C: I'm also curious.
• 33:02
  Speaker B: I can't. No. See, Sharia doesn't know either. So, no, I cannot. I wish I could say, like, I'm getting married like Shreya did and be like, well, the country will be. But, no, not ready yet.
• 33:14
  Speaker A: All right. Still top secret. All right, well, we'll try to get word out to our listeners when we find out. Shreya, I want to turn to you. Is there anything else that you want our listeners to know about this program?
• 33:25
  Speaker C: Yeah, and I mentioned this earlier, too, but really, the online program does foster a very strong sense of community, even virtually. That was something that I was very nervous about coming into it. But we are a relatively tight, tight knit group, and I think that's a credit to Georgetown's approach to engaging all of us. Also, the academic standards here aligns perfectly with what you would expect from a MBA program that's on campus. So you have these high standards, you have quality professors, and you have continuous support from the faculty. So I really do believe that it's a program built for the modern professional.
• 34:05
  Speaker A: Yeah. And I have to say, I mean, just from listening to both of you speak over this course of this episode, I just feel like between the synchronous teaching, the residency that has to happen at the beginning of the program, and even kind of full access to career services and other things happening on campus. And Anne, you were talking about how, you know, anyone in this program is welcome on campus to take part in everything. Right. So I just feel like that's got to be Shreya. What's driving that feeling that you're having around this being a close knit, you know, community that's very different to something that would be, you know, 100% asynchronous and online only or something.
• 34:41
  Speaker C: Right, Exactly.
• 34:44
  Speaker A: Yeah. So I know that you guys are both super busy. I appreciate you making time to connect with me and shed light on this program at McDonough. Yeah. So thank you so much, Ann and Shreya, for chatting today.
• 34:56
  Speaker B: Thanks so much, Graham. It was a pleasure.
• 34:58
  Speaker C: Thank you so much.
• 34:59
  Speaker A: So that's going to be a wrap on this episode of the Clear Admit MBA admissions podcast. Stay tuned for our regular weekly Monday episodes and please remember to rate and review this show wherever you listen.