Latest / Jess Ask / I Chose Not To Be Bitter: How One Decision Changed Everything | FT Charity Floyd | EP148
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- 0:07Speaker 1: Yo, it's your girl, Jessica as Smith, and you already
- 0:10Speaker 1: know that you've entered the safe space for influencers to decompress,
- 0:14Speaker 1: have fun and just ask God for another do you
- 0:18Speaker 1: already know what it is?
- 0:19Speaker 2: And then you know it's about to get real to
- 0:22Speaker 2: be sure to.
- 0:23Speaker 1: Show your girl the love and like how many subscribe
- 0:27Speaker 1: God for another day?
- 0:30Speaker 3: Hey, hey, I know we could be another way.
- 0:35Speaker 1: Yo, yo, yo, it's the girl Jessica as Smith, and
- 0:40Speaker 1: you have entered the safe space where influencers can decompress,
- 0:44Speaker 1: have fun and guess.
- 0:45Speaker 4: What, just good? That was a little bit like.
- 0:54Speaker 1: My lord Raffle, everybody, everybody, but you know, I got
- 0:59Speaker 1: my headphones on, and I have my headphones on. You know,
- 1:01Speaker 1: we got a virtual guest. And when you know how
- 1:02Speaker 1: we got a virtual guest. You can't see desert?
- 1:06Speaker 2: Does a?
- 1:07Speaker 4: Does A? Does a? Does? It's Thursday, y'all?
- 1:10Speaker 1: It is Thursday or whatever day you decided, whatever you said.
- 1:15Speaker 4: Whatever decide, whatever you decided.
- 1:19Speaker 1: To do on today, you could have been anywhere else
- 1:24Speaker 1: but your choes.
- 1:25Speaker 4: And be grateful to come down this street avenue. That's right,
- 1:29Speaker 4: how you feelings? I'm good?
- 1:31Speaker 5: That's an honest answer like that it came out real fast,
- 1:35Speaker 5: but it was true. Like you know, I've been evaluating
- 1:37Speaker 5: like these answers that I be giving, because you know,
- 1:39Speaker 5: it's easy to say I'm good and you're gonna be.
- 1:41Speaker 4: Good and real good, but I'm good. Blessing, blessing, how
- 1:44Speaker 4: favor not not the clocks?
- 1:46Speaker 1: Oh my god, how you feeling?
- 1:51Speaker 4: I am? I am. I'm nervous right now. And you
- 1:54Speaker 4: know when I get nervous, it's nervous. No, I'm trimling.
- 2:00Speaker 1: Listens, I guess, but I'm nervous right now because the
- 2:06Speaker 1: level of excellence is about to enter this platform.
- 2:10Speaker 4: She is a little saucy. Uh huh.
- 2:13Speaker 1: I am excited also because the guests that we have today, Desiree.
- 2:19Speaker 1: We went to school together. We went to the University
- 2:23Speaker 1: of Alabama. Yeah yeah, I said it, ted, come come
- 2:28Speaker 1: try it if you want to. But we went to
- 2:31Speaker 1: the University of Alabama. We graduated the same time. And
- 2:33Speaker 1: so just watching her developed and her grow has just
- 2:39Speaker 1: been a blessing. It's been a blessing just because you know, baby,
- 2:43Speaker 1: you feel like you in the trenches when you were
- 2:45Speaker 1: in school, and so like she did the work, she's
- 2:48Speaker 1: executing and she's living in purpose, on purpose. This young
- 2:54Speaker 1: lady is a fashionista. The lady lady taught me how
- 2:56Speaker 1: to do my eyebrows. I didn't know what an eyebrow
- 2:59Speaker 1: was until this lady talked me. Let us god old
- 3:05Speaker 1: eyebrows left behind. But most importantly, outside of not only
- 3:10Speaker 1: being a wife and a mother, she is the profession
- 3:14Speaker 1: She's a b c BE, a Board certified behavioral analyst. Okay,
- 3:21Speaker 1: so I had to let y'all know what that means
- 3:22Speaker 1: because some people say it and we don't know what
- 3:24Speaker 1: that means. But we're gonna get into it today because
- 3:27Speaker 1: she's gonna teach us and we're gonna learn from her
- 3:30Speaker 1: because she has done the work we gotta understand not
- 3:33Speaker 1: only the aspect.
- 3:35Speaker 4: Of behavior, but specifically.
- 3:37Speaker 1: She specializes in autism and understanding how to navigate those conversations.
- 3:41Speaker 1: So I know me personally, my kJ has autism, and
- 3:45Speaker 1: then Creed, the nephew has autism. And so I'm really
- 3:50Speaker 1: excited to learn from her, really excited for to delve
- 3:53Speaker 1: into her intelligence.
- 3:54Speaker 4: So I want to.
- 3:55Speaker 1: Bring up the beautiful, the wonderful charity flowed.
- 4:04Speaker 2: Girl.
- 4:04Speaker 4: Are you over there typing your life away? No? Oh oh,
- 4:13Speaker 4: why are you laughing.
- 4:14Speaker 2: Good, y'all are best. I'm super super excited that you
- 4:19Speaker 2: invited me to be here. This is my first podcast.
- 4:21Speaker 2: So you talk about you being nervous, baby, I'm nervous.
- 4:24Speaker 4: Why are you nervous?
- 4:26Speaker 2: I don't know. I've never done anything like this. You know,
- 4:28Speaker 2: I get on and I talk my talk online that's
- 4:32Speaker 2: not formal. But you know, I'm just super nervous. But
- 4:35Speaker 2: I know it's gonna be a good time. I know
- 4:37Speaker 2: you'll have some great questions for me. I just hope
- 4:39Speaker 2: that I'm able to give your offering this platform so
- 4:43Speaker 2: that I can, you know, talk and I'm super excited,
- 4:46Speaker 2: but I hope that I'm able to live up to
- 4:48Speaker 2: your expectations.
- 4:49Speaker 4: Maybe you are the expectations.
- 4:51Speaker 1: Okay, it's about to be great because we're about to
- 4:54Speaker 1: have a conversation. One of the things I like about
- 4:56Speaker 1: you charity, especially online, as I was doing my due
- 5:00Speaker 1: diligence and just reviewing your content because you're doing something
- 5:05Speaker 1: different with like fashion and all that stuff like that.
- 5:07Speaker 1: But your heartbeat is your passion for being that behavioral
- 5:12Speaker 1: analyst and dealing with people well, providing an opportunity for
- 5:17Speaker 1: people to learn more about the autism world right, and
- 5:20Speaker 1: I've been in I learned so much from you, just
- 5:22Speaker 1: watching you just being vocal about it, you going into
- 5:25Speaker 1: these different spaces and teaching on it. But one of
- 5:29Speaker 1: the posts that you made, I think this was last
- 5:31Speaker 1: year sometime where you was like, Hey, I'm just a
- 5:35Speaker 1: girl from Georgia, Florida, Alabama, depending on who you ask,
- 5:39Speaker 1: I'm just a girl that just you know, decided to
- 5:42Speaker 1: do this and just passionate about this. Don't I don't
- 5:45Speaker 1: code switch, I don't do all these things that people
- 5:49Speaker 1: want me to do. I'm just me and I'm living
- 5:52Speaker 1: on purpose for purpose. How did you How do you
- 5:55Speaker 1: come to that resolve of I'm in this in this
- 5:58Speaker 1: eloquent field, but I'm just gonna be her.
- 6:03Speaker 2: Absolutely, that is an amazing question and something that I
- 6:06Speaker 2: think in the beginning of my career I struggle with
- 6:10Speaker 2: a lot just being myself and feeling like it's okay
- 6:14Speaker 2: to show up as myself. I think in the beginning
- 6:18Speaker 2: kind of just going forward, you know, like, you know what,
- 6:20Speaker 2: let me just show up, let me just beat myself
- 6:23Speaker 2: and see if these opportunities are still gonna present themselves.
- 6:26Speaker 2: And they did. I also find that you know, there's
- 6:31Speaker 2: beauty and authenticity, and people really understand when they feel
- 6:35Speaker 2: and they hear me talk and they feel the passion
- 6:38Speaker 2: that I have for this, everything else doesn't matter anymore,
- 6:43Speaker 2: you know. They how they present, how I present on
- 6:46Speaker 2: the outside, that doesn't matter because they see the passion,
- 6:50Speaker 2: they see my heart. So you know, it's just been
- 6:53Speaker 2: a blessing. And I will say, like, I'm not everybody's
- 6:56Speaker 2: cup of tea. Yeah, And I study is why I'm
- 7:00Speaker 2: so vocal online is because I want people to understand
- 7:03Speaker 2: that what you see this is exactly how I show up.
- 7:06Speaker 2: You know, I know some things that I folks are
- 7:08Speaker 2: sometimes controversy or but I want people to know and understand,
- 7:11Speaker 2: like this is what I believe in, This is who
- 7:13Speaker 2: I am, and when I show up, this is exactly
- 7:15Speaker 2: what you're gonna get. So yeah, I hope that you
- 7:19Speaker 2: know answers the question. I don't plan to stop showing
- 7:22Speaker 2: up as myself anytime soon. Yeah, as a joint.
- 7:26Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's so important because and I
- 7:29Speaker 1: wanted to start with that space because you know, growing up,
- 7:33Speaker 1: we were taught especially as as black strong women.
- 7:36Speaker 4: Because you're a strong woman, you've always let's let's make
- 7:40Speaker 4: this clip. Charity.
- 7:41Speaker 1: You've always we've always known what Charity thought. We've always
- 7:45Speaker 1: been clear on where she stood. There was never any
- 7:48Speaker 1: discretion about that. But but you've been able to take
- 7:53Speaker 1: that tool and be excellent in an area where you've
- 7:56Speaker 1: been purposed for.
- 7:58Speaker 4: And so how does that trans slate for you being.
- 8:03Speaker 1: A business like you're over multiple businesses, but specifically with
- 8:07Speaker 1: I'm thinking about puzzling without patterns. Puzzling patterns because let
- 8:12Speaker 1: me tell y'all, serial entrepreneur, let's let's let's get that
- 8:16Speaker 1: serial entrepreneur.
- 8:17Speaker 4: We got to talk about which business?
- 8:18Speaker 1: This is the business we're talking about, Okay, was that
- 8:21Speaker 1: your actual first business?
- 8:24Speaker 2: My first business was perfect party tail Palace. I was telling,
- 8:29Speaker 2: come on, I don't know if you remember.
- 8:33Speaker 4: I remember that and the microwaves.
- 8:36Speaker 2: No, no, it was like innovative and somebody told my
- 8:39Speaker 2: business idea. Now it was like a very crow wrap around.
- 8:45Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and that's all I saw and it did
- 8:49Speaker 2: really well. But I started patterns and I just did
- 8:53Speaker 2: not have the time, like and I'm all about excellent,
- 8:55Speaker 2: So I wasn't trying to be stack sending nobody's stuff out.
- 8:57Speaker 4: Laid and yeah.
- 8:58Speaker 2: So I just had to stop. That was my first business.
- 9:01Speaker 4: But after that, pus, Okay, I forgot about that. I like,
- 9:06Speaker 4: as soon as you said, I was like, she did
- 9:09Speaker 4: rap around on the tails, I'm screaming, so can let's
- 9:14Speaker 4: let's let's back up.
- 9:15Speaker 1: How do we get into wanting to help kids and
- 9:20Speaker 1: develop children? Because your your is your bachelor's in human development.
- 9:25Speaker 2: My bachelors is in psychology and undergrad is in human
- 9:30Speaker 2: development and family studies. So if we kind of back
- 9:33Speaker 2: up to the whole starting with children, because that's where
- 9:37Speaker 2: it starts for me, is that even when I was younger,
- 9:40Speaker 2: I always loved children. So I was the girl in
- 9:43Speaker 2: church that's like, ooh, canledge your baby? You know, like
- 9:45Speaker 2: just love love children. And then to tie that with
- 9:49Speaker 2: what my mom does. So she is a social worker,
- 9:53Speaker 2: but her job is kind of unique and that she
- 9:56Speaker 2: works with children with especially not directly, but organizing like
- 10:01Speaker 2: things for soldiers who have kids and family members with
- 10:05Speaker 2: special needs. So we would go to like bowling events
- 10:09Speaker 2: and summer camp programs and I would go and I
- 10:11Speaker 2: would be around children with special needs. So that's where
- 10:14Speaker 2: I was like, okay, love with just being around children
- 10:18Speaker 2: with special needs. I can't tell you exactly was, but
- 10:22Speaker 2: I just loved it. So I knew going into college
- 10:26Speaker 2: that I wanted to somehow work with children with special needs.
- 10:31Speaker 2: Was thinking about being a doctor, was like, eh, now,
- 10:34Speaker 2: don't really want to do that, and then kind of
- 10:37Speaker 2: just started looking up different developmental disabilities children and everything
- 10:40Speaker 2: that kept coming up is psychologists. So that's what I
- 10:44Speaker 2: went to school for. I was like, I'm going to
- 10:45Speaker 2: be a psychologist, a clinical psychologist. I started volunteering at
- 10:49Speaker 2: arts and autism and that's where I fell in love
- 10:54Speaker 2: with children with autism. Okay, and so back then, if
- 10:57Speaker 2: you were to google autism, work with you ass me
- 11:00Speaker 2: the only thing that was going to come up as
- 11:01Speaker 2: clinical psychologist. So changed my major to that I was
- 11:06Speaker 2: going to go to grad school. I was going to
- 11:08Speaker 2: get my doctor and be a clinical psychologist. But I
- 11:11Speaker 2: always knew that what I'm reading about what a clinical
- 11:14Speaker 2: psychologist does like diagnose and then maybe have like a
- 11:18Speaker 2: one hour session where we sit and talk. I was like, man,
- 11:21Speaker 2: that's not getting in the nitty gritty for me, Like
- 11:23Speaker 2: that's not getting really doing the work changing their lives.
- 11:28Speaker 2: And ended up finding Auburn University's ABA program like a
- 11:35Speaker 2: week before the applications were due and had no clue
- 11:39Speaker 2: what ABA was found. It applied, got in very rigorous
- 11:45Speaker 2: and competitive program. I think about a thousand applicants and
- 11:48Speaker 2: only twelve people got in. And I was a black
- 11:51Speaker 2: person got in that program. It was an intensive one
- 11:54Speaker 2: year program. And when I say intensive, I mean intensive.
- 11:59Speaker 2: I was very skinny and ball. When I got out,
- 12:02Speaker 2: Lord Jesus got out and uh man, the rest is history.
- 12:08Speaker 2: Like that's we're kind of so I want to say,
- 12:11Speaker 2: I got to give kudos stars and autism. I think
- 12:14Speaker 2: that's what my love for children with our autism started.
- 12:17Speaker 2: That was not an ABA program. That was a we
- 12:20Speaker 2: are working with kids with autism and we're just doing
- 12:23Speaker 2: what we know. We have the therapy. Look, but I
- 12:26Speaker 2: had no method behind my madness. It was just let
- 12:29Speaker 2: me do what I think will work. But that's where
- 12:31Speaker 2: that love came from.
- 12:32Speaker 4: That's so good. I'm glad you're you're allowing me to
- 12:35Speaker 4: answer my questions a little l question the couple. No,
- 12:39Speaker 4: you're doing You're doing good.
- 12:40Speaker 1: Your answers are so good and so needed because now
- 12:43Speaker 1: because it was I saw a post yesterday and it
- 12:47Speaker 1: was then like a then versus now post and the
- 12:50Speaker 1: lady was explaining how were we even when we were
- 12:55Speaker 1: growing up.
- 12:55Speaker 4: How we attacked or managed.
- 13:00Speaker 1: The autism world differently than we manage it now. Like
- 13:04Speaker 1: she was like, oh, she was pointing at like this
- 13:07Speaker 1: picture or whatever, like this is what you need to do.
- 13:09Speaker 1: This is what you need to do versus being more
- 13:12Speaker 1: interactive with the child. And one of the things I
- 13:14Speaker 1: learned about your program is that you treat every child differently.
- 13:20Speaker 1: And so I'm interested in knowing about this ABA therapy
- 13:24Speaker 1: or is.
- 13:25Speaker 4: It ABA therapy or is it a program? Like how
- 13:27Speaker 4: does that? What does that mean?
- 13:28Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, absolutely so ABA it stands for applyed Behavior analysis.
- 13:33Speaker 2: And what I like to tell people is that ABA
- 13:36Speaker 2: is just like a set of principles that you use
- 13:39Speaker 2: to teach behavior, to decrease behaviors that are problematic, to
- 13:44Speaker 2: teach skills. It is not tied to just autism. Unfortunately, insurance,
- 13:51Speaker 2: we know insurance, especially in the climate that we're in,
- 13:54Speaker 2: is going to always try to figure out a way
- 13:57Speaker 2: to not pay and they're gonna limit, Okay, you have
- 13:59Speaker 2: to have this, you have to have that for us
- 14:01Speaker 2: to pay for that. And so unfortunately most insurance companies
- 14:03Speaker 2: will only pay for it if they have an autism diagnosis.
- 14:08Speaker 2: But you can use a BA to change your own behavior.
- 14:11Speaker 2: So there are behavior analysts who work in fitness who
- 14:14Speaker 2: work and big corporations to change staff behavior. There are
- 14:19Speaker 2: behavior analysts that work with animals at like a zoo
- 14:23Speaker 2: to teach them how to do specific things. People who
- 14:28Speaker 2: train dogs. They're using a BA, right, wow, Yeah, it's not.
- 14:34Speaker 2: It's just a set of principles that you use to
- 14:37Speaker 2: teach whatever you need to teach. But my particular field
- 14:41Speaker 2: is working with children on the autism spectrum or teachers
- 14:46Speaker 2: or providers, parents, But it is not anything that is
- 14:50Speaker 2: only tied to, you know, just children with autism. Now,
- 14:54Speaker 2: you know, my clinic particularly, we work from age of
- 14:57Speaker 2: diagnosis to eighteen, and we work, we provide what I
- 15:00Speaker 2: call comprehensive services. So most of my kids are getting
- 15:03Speaker 2: twenty to forty hours a week. That's because our goal
- 15:06Speaker 2: is after a couple of years they're leaving us. ABA
- 15:09Speaker 2: is not a forever thing. I want them to go on,
- 15:11Speaker 2: go to school, you know, and not need us anymore.
- 15:14Speaker 2: But we primarily are focusing on, you know, reducing my
- 15:17Speaker 2: adaptive behaviors and helping them increase skills across all domains,
- 15:22Speaker 2: so social skills, self help skills, language, anything that they
- 15:28Speaker 2: really need. If I have a kid that comes in
- 15:30Speaker 2: and I got, hey, mambos, hey you got new glasses,
- 15:33Speaker 2: and he won't wear them, We'll write a program from
- 15:36Speaker 2: scratch to teach him how to wear his glasses, you know.
- 15:40Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. Or I have a kid that's like so
- 15:43Speaker 2: terrified every time I turn on animated movie. We'll write
- 15:47Speaker 2: a program to you know, desensitize so that you can
- 15:50Speaker 2: watch an animated movie at the movie theater and without
- 15:53Speaker 2: freaking out.
- 15:54Speaker 1: You know.
- 15:54Speaker 2: So you tell me what you need, I take these
- 15:56Speaker 2: principal developer program to teach you that.
- 15:58Speaker 1: So this is on a line attached to them going
- 16:02Speaker 1: to like school, like to learn to learn?
- 16:05Speaker 4: Or do you is this there school?
- 16:08Speaker 2: Like? So yeah, So I have a lot of kids
- 16:10Speaker 2: that are not old enough for school yet. Okay, you
- 16:13Speaker 2: know aged was my youngest kid I ever had was
- 16:16Speaker 2: eighteen months right, so age of diagnosis. But what I
- 16:20Speaker 2: do is school is obviously where I want the kid oo, right,
- 16:25Speaker 2: But sometimes I don't know. If you've been in self
- 16:28Speaker 2: contained classrooms, I can walk in a classroom and I
- 16:31Speaker 2: can say this kid is not even benefiting from being
- 16:34Speaker 2: here because they do not have the prerequisite skills necessary
- 16:38Speaker 2: to learn. Right, So what's the point of you being
- 16:42Speaker 2: here if you actually can't even sit down for three seconds? Right?
- 16:47Speaker 2: So in that, you know, in case by case, I'll
- 16:50Speaker 2: do an assessment. Sometimes that assessment is only in clinic.
- 16:53Speaker 2: Sometimes I need to go observe the kid at home,
- 16:56Speaker 2: or I need to go observe them at school, and
- 16:59Speaker 2: I might say, Hey, we're gonna pull them from school
- 17:02Speaker 2: for X amount of time. We're gonna work on these
- 17:04Speaker 2: specific goals, and then we're gonna push them back in school. Right.
- 17:09Speaker 2: And then I might have some kids that their level
- 17:12Speaker 2: of autism is so high that school can just not
- 17:16Speaker 2: accommodate their needs for the foreseeable future, and we pull
- 17:19Speaker 2: them and it is a medical service, so you know,
- 17:22Speaker 2: we write a letter in excusing them from school. Technically
- 17:25Speaker 2: they're still enrolled, but they attend ABA, they have their
- 17:28Speaker 2: one to one therapist that is all day that is
- 17:31Speaker 2: focused on implementing their treatment plan.
- 17:34Speaker 1: So and with that case, well, the last case that
- 17:36Speaker 1: you talked about, are y'all working with the school, Like,
- 17:39Speaker 1: are y'all still submitting like the work that they need
- 17:42Speaker 1: to do to graduate or how does that work out?
- 17:46Speaker 2: I would only ever do that for a kid that
- 17:50Speaker 2: is in self contained, and that means that really know,
- 17:57Speaker 2: so they're not giving us any work. Their excuse because
- 18:01Speaker 2: self contained. After a certain year in school, it's kind
- 18:06Speaker 2: of like you go and then you graduate and they
- 18:09Speaker 2: give you a certificate, but it's not a high school
- 18:12Speaker 2: diploma that now I can take and go on to
- 18:15Speaker 2: college right now, if I am working with a kid
- 18:19Speaker 2: where I'm like no, in a couple of years or
- 18:21Speaker 2: in a couple of months, like I want to tie
- 18:22Speaker 2: tripping back, we do work with the school. We go
- 18:24Speaker 2: to all of our kids' IP meetings so that we
- 18:27Speaker 2: can make sure that they're IP goals, they're translated. And
- 18:30Speaker 2: the reality is we usually can teach it faster because
- 18:33Speaker 2: they have a wonder one right and it's literally only
- 18:37Speaker 2: responsible for them the whole day, So they're going to
- 18:41Speaker 2: acquire those skills much faster than if they're in a
- 18:44Speaker 2: classroom with one teacher and fifteen kids that all have
- 18:48Speaker 2: different IPS.
- 18:50Speaker 1: That makes sense, No, that makes sense, and so and
- 18:53Speaker 1: that's why I have you here because it's so many
- 18:57Speaker 1: it's more and more people that I'm learning about now
- 19:00Speaker 1: that we have the right language, now that we have
- 19:02Speaker 1: better resources and the algorithm does what it needs to
- 19:06Speaker 1: do for us to find help things, and we have
- 19:09Speaker 1: people like you speaking about it. You know what I'm saying,
- 19:11Speaker 1: Like Will, I'm still learning how because I want to
- 19:15Speaker 1: be the best, the best sister to kJ and Creed
- 19:19Speaker 1: and know that they might not be like so far
- 19:22Speaker 1: off the spectrum, but they still have it, Like how
- 19:24Speaker 1: do I adjust myself? So with that said, like, what
- 19:27Speaker 1: does it look like to support not only the child
- 19:30Speaker 1: but the family? So what tools do you give the
- 19:33Speaker 1: families for children dealing with autism?
- 19:38Speaker 2: Absolutely? So you got two sets, right. So I have
- 19:43Speaker 2: my parents of children that I surface in their treatment.
- 19:48Speaker 2: Parent training is included, right, So not only included is required.
- 19:53Speaker 2: My parents have to come to parent training at least
- 19:56Speaker 2: once per month. In those parent trainings, I am teaching
- 20:00Speaker 2: them the strategies, the things that's working here in the clinic.
- 20:03Speaker 2: I'm teaching them that and I'm teaching them exactly how
- 20:05Speaker 2: to do it. I'm also allowing my parents to bring
- 20:07Speaker 2: up to come in and be like, look, he started
- 20:10Speaker 2: doing this, what do I do? I'm coaching that one.
- 20:13Speaker 2: This is how you need to be thinking. I'm basically
- 20:15Speaker 2: reprogramming their mind to think how I think as a
- 20:19Speaker 2: beginner an when I see it, right. But those are
- 20:22Speaker 2: the kids that are already in therapy. The biggest issue
- 20:25Speaker 2: is I have a wait list of two hundred kids,
- 20:27Speaker 2: two hundred plus kids. What about those kids? Right? What
- 20:31Speaker 2: about those kids? And how do we help those parents?
- 20:34Speaker 2: So a series that I've started and I'm going to
- 20:38Speaker 2: pick it back up this year is called while You Wait,
- 20:41Speaker 2: and it is targeting the parents who are waiting for services. Okay,
- 20:47Speaker 2: I'm on a wait list? What do I do while
- 20:49Speaker 2: I wait? And this is me giving strategies to be
- 20:54Speaker 2: able to And they can only be general strategies because ethically,
- 20:57Speaker 2: I can't tell you exactly what to do with your
- 20:59Speaker 2: child when I don't know your child. I have not
- 21:01Speaker 2: done an assessment. I cannot do that. But I can
- 21:04Speaker 2: give you some general strategies and general tips that should
- 21:07Speaker 2: help help to, you know, teach you things while you're
- 21:11Speaker 2: waiting for that individual lize service.
- 21:15Speaker 1: That's good. I think that it's needed as well. I
- 21:20Speaker 1: think this is I think this is good. So now
- 21:22Speaker 1: I'm curious about We've talked about your your your program,
- 21:26Speaker 1: we talked about we talked about how to help the families.
- 21:31Speaker 1: But now I'm curious about Cheerity woman chair. The woman
- 21:36Speaker 1: manages a lot. Like I said earlier, you were, uh,
- 21:39Speaker 1: your serious serial entrepreneur.
- 21:41Speaker 4: You cater to families.
- 21:44Speaker 1: I can't even just say children, but you cater to
- 21:46Speaker 1: families that are discovering this new level of autism and
- 21:52Speaker 1: just navigating that. I wonder how you balance it all, Like,
- 21:56Speaker 1: how do you navigate being a business owned her, being
- 22:00Speaker 1: a serial entrepreneur, being a wife, being a mother. How
- 22:05Speaker 1: how does charity manage it all? And who takes care
- 22:08Speaker 1: of charity?
- 22:11Speaker 2: Great question. I've been trying to figure that out myself.
- 22:16Speaker 2: So I'm gonna start by saying, who you married matters. Okay,
- 22:23Speaker 2: I married a wonderful man that allows charity to do
- 22:27Speaker 2: a new thing every's two days without complaining. So if
- 22:31Speaker 2: that means he eat a TV dinner three times this week,
- 22:36Speaker 2: then he's not go plan and that means that sometimes
- 22:38Speaker 2: it means he's getting home cook meals sometimes. In me,
- 22:42Speaker 2: he is so supportive in everything that I do. I'm
- 22:46Speaker 2: not a single married mother, so you know my son
- 22:51Speaker 2: is with him right now. So I know some people
- 22:53Speaker 2: are like, oh, you know, well, what do you do
- 22:56Speaker 2: about your kid? I got a husband who's a dad
- 22:59Speaker 2: and wants to be dad.
- 23:00Speaker 4: Right.
- 23:02Speaker 2: My ABA clinic is in Georgia and I started that,
- 23:06Speaker 2: and my home is in Florida. I started that ABA
- 23:09Speaker 2: clinic before we had a kid, but I was newly
- 23:13Speaker 2: married and I was spending week, the whole week away
- 23:18Speaker 2: from him, So you can guess what that means, right, Yeah.
- 23:22Speaker 2: And I was tired when I came back because I
- 23:25Speaker 2: was working work and working work and working. So I
- 23:29Speaker 2: just having a supportive system around you. I could not
- 23:34Speaker 2: do this without.
- 23:35Speaker 4: That, right.
- 23:37Speaker 2: And then systems. I'm really big on systems and I
- 23:40Speaker 2: don't just jump into things. So anything that you see
- 23:44Speaker 2: me launching has been well thought out. Anything that could
- 23:47Speaker 2: be automated has been automated. And I've done the leg
- 23:51Speaker 2: work before anybody sees it. So having systems in place,
- 23:55Speaker 2: having a team in place, a team that I trained,
- 23:59Speaker 2: per vet it. I don't just hire anybody. My family
- 24:02Speaker 2: and friends will be like, don't go work there at
- 24:04Speaker 2: charity of fire anybody, because I run a street program.
- 24:08Speaker 4: And I believe it.
- 24:10Speaker 2: I run a street program and the standard that I have.
- 24:14Speaker 2: Everybody on my team, they know that standard and if
- 24:17Speaker 2: you're not up on that standard, you gotta go. So
- 24:20Speaker 2: having those things in place really allow me to just
- 24:25Speaker 2: have the time right and so I'm able to take
- 24:28Speaker 2: care of myself and still have time to work out
- 24:31Speaker 2: and do the things that I love because of the
- 24:32Speaker 2: back the leg work that I did before launching, before
- 24:37Speaker 2: opening up, and then also like moving with intention and
- 24:40Speaker 2: moving slow. Everybody's like, when are you going to open
- 24:42Speaker 2: another clinic? You have a weight list of this, and
- 24:44Speaker 2: I'm like, never, never, because I need to be able
- 24:47Speaker 2: to get there, be there if something is going on.
- 24:51Speaker 2: I don't want to have fifty clinics all over the
- 24:52Speaker 2: United States and then the quality of service diminish. Right.
- 24:56Speaker 2: So systems and having a supportive system around you, supportive
- 25:01Speaker 2: people around you is next to none when it comes
- 25:05Speaker 2: to really being able to take care of yourself as well.
- 25:08Speaker 2: And I'm not gonna say I always prioritize me, because
- 25:10Speaker 2: that's not the truth. I don't you know, I do
- 25:13Speaker 2: prioritize the people around me, and you know, I'm making
- 25:18Speaker 2: sure my businesses are taken care of, but I still
- 25:21Speaker 2: do have time for me, and it's not like I'm
- 25:24Speaker 2: just drowning every day.
- 25:26Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 25:26Speaker 1: So with you living in Florida. And because I saw that,
- 25:29Speaker 1: I was like, they got the wrong address on here, I.
- 25:35Speaker 4: Would trying to say, I was about to say charity.
- 25:37Speaker 4: You know, y'all you still got the Georgia address.
- 25:39Speaker 1: I didn't realize that you're still like traveling to do that.
- 25:44Speaker 1: So what's a typical week look like for you? And
- 25:46Speaker 1: the reason And I'm about to be very clear because
- 25:48Speaker 1: we have women that it's Women's History Month, right, and
- 25:53Speaker 1: so we have women that aspire to do these things,
- 25:57Speaker 1: but they feel like it's not attainable to do. And
- 26:00Speaker 1: so bringing language and clarity to what that looks like,
- 26:03Speaker 1: I feel like is important. So you have these multiple businesses,
- 26:07Speaker 1: two of which because Street Sensory is about to be
- 26:09Speaker 1: in Georgia too, right m hm. And so like you
- 26:13Speaker 1: have these strong businesses that are flourishing. One it's still
- 26:19Speaker 1: got Street Sensory is not open yet.
- 26:23Speaker 2: Yeah, so play at Sensory Street is opening in the
- 26:27Speaker 2: next maybe the construction is being done right now, probably
- 26:30Speaker 2: the next Like I hate.
- 26:33Speaker 1: It opening soon, it looks it's opening soon. But okay,
- 26:38Speaker 1: So with with that, what does a typical week look
- 26:43Speaker 1: like for you when you're navigating these businesses?
- 26:47Speaker 2: Absolutely, Also, I do want to shout out I have
- 26:50Speaker 2: an assistant to Her name is Carla, and she actually
- 26:52Speaker 2: lives in the Philippines. She's been with me since twenty eighteen.
- 26:55Speaker 2: She does a lot of my background, so I want
- 26:58Speaker 2: to say that is a big part things as well.
- 27:00Speaker 2: But typical week, right, So I might let's just say
- 27:05Speaker 2: last week, I went down every day, and I do
- 27:09Speaker 2: have somewhere that I can stay in Georgia as well,
- 27:12Speaker 2: but I don't always do that because my baby's in
- 27:14Speaker 2: daycare close to our home. So I'll wake up early,
- 27:18Speaker 2: my husband, will you know, help get the baby ready.
- 27:21Speaker 2: I'll drop the baby off on my way to Georgia.
- 27:24Speaker 2: I'll go to Georgia. I like to be there before
- 27:26Speaker 2: or right when the clinic get is opening. If I'm
- 27:29Speaker 2: on the floor that week, or if I'm actually like
- 27:32Speaker 2: in the clinic not that we that day. This could
- 27:35Speaker 2: be supervising technicians, meeting with my two supervisors that are
- 27:40Speaker 2: there in the clinic at all times. This could be
- 27:43Speaker 2: working directly with clients. If I'm in my office, it
- 27:47Speaker 2: could be communicating with insurances It could be writing treatment plans.
- 27:51Speaker 2: It could be meeting with my accountant, all the background stuff.
- 27:56Speaker 2: Last week it was supervising play its Street, so going there,
- 28:01Speaker 2: going to get things that the contractors needed, coming back
- 28:04Speaker 2: and forth do all of that have to wrap up.
- 28:06Speaker 2: Could be meetings with schools as well, and parent trainings
- 28:10Speaker 2: with parents. When I wrap up, I need to be
- 28:13Speaker 2: back to get my baby before daycare clothes and I
- 28:15Speaker 2: don't like for him to be the last one, so
- 28:19Speaker 2: I get him and just depending I might. I found
- 28:25Speaker 2: the gym that we go to has daycare, so if
- 28:27Speaker 2: I want to go to the gym, I could take
- 28:28Speaker 2: him with me. He can go to the little daycare
- 28:31Speaker 2: and then we come home. I'll get him dinner, get
- 28:34Speaker 2: him cleaned up, and then he goes to bit. So
- 28:37Speaker 2: that's day today. So in a week, I could be
- 28:40Speaker 2: going back and forth every day if I'm working from
- 28:42Speaker 2: the home. Then anytime I'm working from home, I always
- 28:46Speaker 2: have the cameras up. I'm watching on the cameras the clinic,
- 28:50Speaker 2: so I could be doing some supervision there and any
- 28:54Speaker 2: background billing. So we work with insurance, so we have
- 28:56Speaker 2: to build insurance. Sometimes claims are denied for whatever reasons
- 29:01Speaker 2: following up on the not claims. Interviews for new employees,
- 29:06Speaker 2: so it can be a lot, it can be a
- 29:08Speaker 2: lot of back and forth. But again, I do have
- 29:14Speaker 2: supervisors there that I've trained to do some things as well.
- 29:16Speaker 2: So like let's just say I've done an interview and
- 29:18Speaker 2: then they're coming in for their second interview. I don't
- 29:20Speaker 2: necessarily need to be there for that. I can have
- 29:23Speaker 2: a person, I can have a supervisor, have that first
- 29:26Speaker 2: come in, give them a tour, do the part two
- 29:28Speaker 2: of the interview, and I don't make major decisions like
- 29:31Speaker 2: who are going to hire by myself. I always include
- 29:33Speaker 2: my leadership team in that. So I like for them
- 29:36Speaker 2: to kind of get an idea of the new employee
- 29:39Speaker 2: or potential new employee.
- 29:41Speaker 4: Well, what's your why behind that?
- 29:43Speaker 1: Because you I was just about to say something and
- 29:46Speaker 1: you just made the point, what's your why behind it?
- 29:50Speaker 2: So I think it's not that I don't trust myself, right,
- 29:57Speaker 2: but I trust my team. And some times people can
- 30:00Speaker 2: see things that you don't see.
- 30:03Speaker 4: Right.
- 30:03Speaker 2: Sometimes people can it's like getting a second opinion and
- 30:09Speaker 2: what I tell my team. So something else unique that
- 30:11Speaker 2: I have is that everybody that comes on board is
- 30:13Speaker 2: on a ninety day professionary period. After ninety days, everybody
- 30:16Speaker 2: that has already passed their ninety days votes. We have
- 30:19Speaker 2: a form and it asks different questions about our core values,
- 30:25Speaker 2: and then the final question is do you recommend this
- 30:27Speaker 2: person to be a permanent part of the team. Right,
- 30:29Speaker 2: you can't just put no, I don't like our hair,
- 30:32Speaker 2: you know. You can't put something crazy like that. It
- 30:34Speaker 2: has to be something of substance. But everybody has to
- 30:38Speaker 2: vote yes, and people forget about that, right. But the
- 30:42Speaker 2: reality is every single person knows the standard, right, and
- 30:47Speaker 2: everybody knows that our goal is that everybody that comes
- 30:50Speaker 2: in here makes it past their ninety days. So if
- 30:52Speaker 2: somebody's not upholding that standard, and I keep in mind,
- 30:56Speaker 2: I've never had a time where only one person that's
- 30:58Speaker 2: voted no, it's very one band, one sound. If I
- 31:01Speaker 2: got one note, I know more coming. Right. So what
- 31:05Speaker 2: it does is it spreads that accountability for everybody. We're
- 31:08Speaker 2: all responsible for who comes in this door. And I'm
- 31:11Speaker 2: really big about the culture of puzzling patterns being positive.
- 31:16Speaker 2: You work. You spend so much time at work that
- 31:19Speaker 2: I can't have somebody in there that's messing up the
- 31:22Speaker 2: culture right, and so we're all responsible for making sure
- 31:26Speaker 2: when we all made that decision together. We can't blame
- 31:29Speaker 2: one person, y'all, not just blame the charity. We all
- 31:31Speaker 2: see it.
- 31:33Speaker 1: So it's almost like when you're doing that's making them
- 31:37Speaker 1: more invested in what it is because I think, and
- 31:41Speaker 1: it's just a leadership thing, like once people become more
- 31:44Speaker 1: invested and they feel like their voice matters, they care
- 31:47Speaker 1: about what they're doing across the board. And this is
- 31:50Speaker 1: not just with charity's business. That's with any business. So
- 31:53Speaker 1: if you're saying, and I think people as leaders, just
- 31:56Speaker 1: speaking from a leadership standpoint, are afraid to get to
- 31:59Speaker 1: act the voices of their people. But you're saying, like,
- 32:03Speaker 1: the reason why I do is because it makes them
- 32:06Speaker 1: invested into what I have going on. And I need
- 32:09Speaker 1: them to do that because now I can make sure
- 32:12Speaker 1: that the clients and the families are properly taken care of.
- 32:17Speaker 4: I think that's brilliant.
- 32:19Speaker 2: I'm telling you, even policies, right, So if there is
- 32:22Speaker 2: a policy something that we have that's just not working,
- 32:25Speaker 2: I come to our leadership, our team meeting every two
- 32:28Speaker 2: months and I say, okay, y'all, this isn't working. We
- 32:32Speaker 2: got this policy. This is what it is. You know,
- 32:34Speaker 2: your session notes are supposed to be here at this time.
- 32:37Speaker 2: They're getting to me, you know, two days late. What
- 32:41Speaker 2: are we gonna do about it? We make our policies together,
- 32:44Speaker 2: like there is very small Like you can probably count
- 32:47Speaker 2: on one hand the amount of times that I've had
- 32:49Speaker 2: to make like an executi decision by myself. And I'm like, yoa,
- 32:51Speaker 2: this is what it is. Everything else I'm like, what
- 32:54Speaker 2: what do else? Is?
- 32:54Speaker 3: Just?
- 32:56Speaker 2: And we come up with the policy together I drafted.
- 32:58Speaker 2: I send out, hey, everybody, how this look. And that's
- 33:01Speaker 2: how policy the implement it. So it's like, y'all chose.
- 33:03Speaker 2: So now if somebody's getting written up, which is very rare,
- 33:06Speaker 2: you know, but this is the policy y'all chose. Hm,
- 33:09Speaker 2: we all we put it on this. So that's the
- 33:13Speaker 2: other beauty of just not having investors or not having
- 33:16Speaker 2: a big corporation and having multiple is that we get
- 33:19Speaker 2: to make our decisions together. I don't have to ask
- 33:20Speaker 2: nobody nothing. I make the decisions with my team.
- 33:24Speaker 1: That's so good with you being an established business owner,
- 33:32Speaker 1: I I I just I think I think people think
- 33:37Speaker 1: that people wake up are just knew from jump that
- 33:40Speaker 1: they wanted to do this, and I found that you
- 33:44Speaker 1: stumble upon entrepreneurship. Can we talk about that?
- 33:49Speaker 2: Oh gosh, yes, how much time you got?
- 33:53Speaker 1: How did how did know that she needed to create
- 33:56Speaker 1: a space like this?
- 34:00Speaker 2: Yeah, So Puzzling Patterns came out of a huge, unfortunate,
- 34:07Speaker 2: unfortunate situation that I have never talked about anywhere else
- 34:12Speaker 2: because I have been trying to figure out how to
- 34:18Speaker 2: talk about it without impacting anybody else, because that's not,
- 34:23Speaker 2: you know, my goal. Yeah, but I'm going to try
- 34:26Speaker 2: to make a long story short in that my original
- 34:29Speaker 2: goal was never to open a clinic. In addition to
- 34:31Speaker 2: working with the kids, I'm also passionate about training the
- 34:35Speaker 2: upcoming b cbas. I want there to be good BCBAs
- 34:38Speaker 2: who come after me. And so my ultimate goal was
- 34:41Speaker 2: to have kind of like an agency that mainly focused
- 34:44Speaker 2: on training BCBAs, and then we would send these bcs
- 34:48Speaker 2: out to these rural areas that look to be honest,
- 34:52Speaker 2: nobody's moving to Sweetwater, Alabama, Like, but there are autistic
- 34:56Speaker 2: kids in Sweetwater, Alabama, and you know who's going to
- 34:59Speaker 2: help them. So I was gonna send in there kind
- 35:02Speaker 2: of like you go an assignment, you know, and then
- 35:04Speaker 2: you come back. That was my ultimate goal. Two ladies
- 35:07Speaker 2: contacted me that were in Georgia. Neither were BCBAs, and
- 35:12Speaker 2: they wanted to open ABA clinics, but they didn't have
- 35:15Speaker 2: a BCBA. You have to have a BCBA to build
- 35:19Speaker 2: for services for ABA. So I agreed to be that BCBA.
- 35:23Speaker 2: I helped them start every single thing, any kind of documents, insurance,
- 35:28Speaker 2: credentially and all of that stuff went through me, but
- 35:30Speaker 2: it's not my business, to be very clear, started providing services,
- 35:37Speaker 2: ended up catching one of the ladies engaging and billing
- 35:42Speaker 2: fraud with my license. Okay. The thing about it is,
- 35:48Speaker 2: and I learned a very hard lesson, is that when
- 35:50Speaker 2: you work for people that are not certified through your board,
- 35:54Speaker 2: they can never be held accountable for your board because
- 35:56Speaker 2: the board doesn't care about anybody but their certificates. They
- 35:59Speaker 2: don't care about anybody else. They care about who they certified. Right,
- 36:02Speaker 2: So though they technically are my supervisors, it's their business.
- 36:06Speaker 2: I'm responsible for anything clinical that goes wrong or not
- 36:11Speaker 2: following any even if I didn't do it. So immediately
- 36:16Speaker 2: terminated services as far as telling her you can no
- 36:20Speaker 2: longer reveal with my license, but agreed to continue providing services,
- 36:25Speaker 2: but just you can't be on insurance for you do
- 36:27Speaker 2: have to pay me for it, but you can't build
- 36:29Speaker 2: insurance just so that I can make sure I properly
- 36:31Speaker 2: transfer cases. Well, she reported me to the board for
- 36:35Speaker 2: abandoning clients, and obviously I thought that they found me like,
- 36:42Speaker 2: not guilty of anything she said, but they tacked on
- 36:46Speaker 2: something which was me not keeping in contact with the
- 36:50Speaker 2: parents of one of the clients I served with her,
- 36:54Speaker 2: which was true. I did not keep in contact because
- 36:58Speaker 2: the father died by suicide like two weeks after we
- 37:04Speaker 2: started services, and mom just kind of went goes. So
- 37:07Speaker 2: I just said, you know what, the parent training part,
- 37:10Speaker 2: I'm gonna put that on the back burner for right
- 37:11Speaker 2: now because y'all got a lot going on. In hindsight,
- 37:15Speaker 2: you know, I probably should have still just emailed and
- 37:17Speaker 2: let them know whenever you're just so, I had a
- 37:19Speaker 2: track worker for me trying to reach out. So I
- 37:24Speaker 2: ended up having to do six months of mentorship with
- 37:28Speaker 2: somebody who was a BCBA for five years. I could
- 37:33Speaker 2: have lost my license like behind that. I was devastated.
- 37:39Speaker 2: I one of the ladies kept all of my assessment material.
- 37:43Speaker 2: Both of them combined owed me to this day about
- 37:46Speaker 2: eight thousand dollars. A close family member, really close family member,
- 37:51Speaker 2: wanted to suit them on my behalf, and I thought
- 37:55Speaker 2: about it, and then one day I woke up because
- 37:59Speaker 2: I was angry. I was so angry because I did
- 38:01Speaker 2: this to help them. One day, I woke up and
- 38:03Speaker 2: I said, I'm not gonna be mad anymore. I just
- 38:06Speaker 2: made an active decision, not anymore. And I said, I'm
- 38:09Speaker 2: gonna talk to this lady that I have to talk
- 38:11Speaker 2: to every month. I'm gonna ask her questions, I'm gonna learn,
- 38:13Speaker 2: I'm gonna just pick her brain because I have to
- 38:16Speaker 2: paying for work, so I might as well. And I
- 38:19Speaker 2: also told this close family member that I'm also not
- 38:21Speaker 2: gonna sue them. I'm gonna let them keep everything. They
- 38:23Speaker 2: don't have to pay me any money. I'm just gonna
- 38:27Speaker 2: I'm just gonna be done with it, right. And I
- 38:28Speaker 2: just decided to not be angry, and in that I
- 38:33Speaker 2: decided to start posing matterness because I said, well, I
- 38:36Speaker 2: still want to serve as kids in a rural area.
- 38:38Speaker 2: That's why my Clinican is in Hinesville, Georgia. And not Jacksonville, Florida,
- 38:43Speaker 2: and I started in a daycare. But I only started
- 38:46Speaker 2: because I couldn't do what I wanted to do with
- 38:49Speaker 2: these two ladies. Now, in hindsight, I believe this was
- 38:52Speaker 2: Gouty's plan for me all along, you know, Like I
- 38:56Speaker 2: just feel like I had to go through that because
- 38:57Speaker 2: what I learned, and that's the away shit has helped
- 39:00Speaker 2: me so much in my business now that I almost
- 39:02Speaker 2: feel like I need to call them and say thank you.
- 39:06Speaker 2: But I talked to that close family member all the time,
- 39:10Speaker 2: and I said, you know what, it's crazy. You wanted
- 39:13Speaker 2: me to sue them for them like eight thousand dollars.
- 39:17Speaker 2: And if I look at my business now, like I
- 39:21Speaker 2: really believe that if I would have like pursued that,
- 39:25Speaker 2: I would not be where I am. Multiple businesses. We
- 39:29Speaker 2: own our commercial building where both of our businesses is ours.
- 39:33Speaker 2: We have two renters. We don't postling patterns, play us
- 39:39Speaker 2: since the street. We don't need for anything that doesn't happen.
- 39:43Speaker 2: If I didn't wake up one day and say I'm
- 39:45Speaker 2: not gonna be angry anymore. I'm gonna do what I
- 39:47Speaker 2: have to do, and then I'm gonna start this business
- 39:49Speaker 2: I'm gonna do with God put me on this earth toitude.
- 39:52Speaker 2: So that's how Charity got to start a business. Never
- 39:57Speaker 2: my plan, but I truly believe it was always guys.
- 40:00Speaker 1: Girl, you said, girl girl, can we pause and just
- 40:07Speaker 1: praise the Lord like that? My goodness, because if there
- 40:13Speaker 1: is something called righteous frustration, and I think that's what
- 40:17Speaker 1: if we could define what you just said, righteous frustration
- 40:21Speaker 1: led you to entrepreneurship because you were done wrong. And
- 40:26Speaker 1: we just had a conversation not too long ago, Desi
- 40:28Speaker 1: Rae and I we're talking about we don't get if
- 40:31Speaker 1: we're believers, right, Charity. You know, I've always been in
- 40:34Speaker 1: the faith and always been vocal by my faith. So
- 40:38Speaker 1: if we are believers, Charity, we have a responsibility on
- 40:44Speaker 1: how we navigate things. We can't navigate it, just like
- 40:48Speaker 1: Susie May. We can't navigate that like oh, I got
- 40:52Speaker 1: to act off my emotions. And what blessed me out
- 40:54Speaker 1: of what you said, Charity is when you said I
- 40:57Speaker 1: woke up and I decided not.
- 40:59Speaker 4: To be angry anymore.
- 41:01Speaker 1: What do you know what that means, Charity. That means
- 41:05Speaker 1: that you took the power that God has invested in
- 41:07Speaker 1: you and you said, you know what, emotion lay down emotion.
- 41:11Speaker 1: I'm not doing this today, emotion. You won't have authority
- 41:14Speaker 1: over me.
- 41:15Speaker 4: Emotion.
- 41:16Speaker 1: I got a future and a plan that's been predestined
- 41:18Speaker 1: for me. So you can sit down, you can.
- 41:21Speaker 4: Stay over that anger.
- 41:22Speaker 1: But what I'm about to do is say, you know what,
- 41:24Speaker 1: that eight thousand dollars you can have that you can
- 41:27Speaker 1: also have everything else. I blessed you with the time.
- 41:30Speaker 1: I blessed you it, and now it's time for me
- 41:32Speaker 1: to bless others. That's what I heard. That's exactly what
- 41:35Speaker 1: I heard, and it's so motivational for you to even
- 41:39Speaker 1: just I don't think and I'm saying this out loud
- 41:41Speaker 1: because I don't think you know what you just said.
- 41:45Speaker 4: I don't think.
- 41:46Speaker 1: No, I don't think you understand the faith behind that,
- 41:51Speaker 1: the faith to say, you know what, I'm not gonna
- 41:53Speaker 1: be angry no more. How much power resides in that,
- 41:57Speaker 1: and how much it has led you to your promise.
- 42:01Speaker 2: Absolutely. Oh. Now, one thing that I do You know,
- 42:04Speaker 2: when I do talk to people up about this, I
- 42:08Speaker 2: always say that that one decision I do think't change
- 42:12Speaker 2: the entire trajectory in my life. Just deciding to not
- 42:14Speaker 2: be mad, and the decision was so like it wasn't
- 42:19Speaker 2: even It's like I woke up and I said, I'm done,
- 42:21Speaker 2: like w And I was hardering so much anger in
- 42:25Speaker 2: my heart because I had done something with good intentions,
- 42:29Speaker 2: great intentions. I mean, I was doing services for them.
- 42:32Speaker 2: How insurance works is you don't always get paid real quick.
- 42:35Speaker 2: How you do the services right. So instead of me saying, okay,
- 42:39Speaker 2: but y'all got to pay me, you know, on biweekly,
- 42:41Speaker 2: I said, just wait until insurance page y'all and then
- 42:43Speaker 2: y'all can pay me. So I was going. I was
- 42:46Speaker 2: traveling there, so I felt so betrayed. They were supposed
- 42:52Speaker 2: to put me up in a hotel. I stayed at
- 42:54Speaker 2: one of their houses to save them money. These are
- 42:56Speaker 2: women who have established businesses already in other fields. I
- 43:01Speaker 2: was just a baby BCBA. So I just felt so
- 43:05Speaker 2: taken advantage of. And you know, I was, like you said,
- 43:08Speaker 2: I was angry. I was hurt. But when I woke
- 43:11Speaker 2: up that day, I almost feel like that one day,
- 43:14Speaker 2: it was just like like yeah, my heart felt, I
- 43:18Speaker 2: felt lighter, and everything changed. Everything changed, so yeah, and
- 43:25Speaker 2: I approached so many things like that now, things that
- 43:28Speaker 2: are supposed to make me angry. I go back to
- 43:30Speaker 2: that moment, like, remember what happened when you decided to
- 43:34Speaker 2: not be angry? You know, remember what happened when you
- 43:36Speaker 2: didn't let that lay on your heart? Your life changed.
- 43:39Speaker 2: So it's very hard for me to stay angry for
- 43:41Speaker 2: a long time.
- 43:43Speaker 1: Wow, there are that is would you say that's different
- 43:46Speaker 1: from you your ten year well charity ten years ago?
- 43:50Speaker 4: Man, I know the answer.
- 43:55Speaker 2: Girl, And the thing is now. Some people will sometimes
- 44:00Speaker 2: confuse me being vocal and you know, like talking about things.
- 44:05Speaker 2: I disapprove of what being angry, but trust and believe,
- 44:08Speaker 2: trust and believe. Don't what you see me?
- 44:10Speaker 4: Right?
- 44:10Speaker 2: And if I'm debating, I love a good debate. I
- 44:13Speaker 2: love a good debate. I don't see I'm never angry.
- 44:17Speaker 2: I'm never I could debate with somebody and I see
- 44:19Speaker 2: them I don't harbor anger in my heart. I don't.
- 44:23Speaker 2: And that is not charity from ten, fifteen, twenty years ago.
- 44:30Speaker 2: It's not you know that was. And if I could
- 44:33Speaker 2: tell anybody like young people, don't harbor don't be angry,
- 44:40Speaker 2: just don't be angry. Things that have just things you
- 44:41Speaker 2: can't change. That was the thing for me it's like
- 44:43Speaker 2: you walk around mad still and it's already done.
- 44:48Speaker 4: So it's different, it's different.
- 44:51Speaker 1: But the thing about it is your delivery, your even
- 44:54Speaker 1: your presence. There's a piece about you. There's a piece
- 45:01Speaker 1: about you. You're it seems like you're at peace with
- 45:03Speaker 1: your marriage, your peace being a mother, You're at peace
- 45:06Speaker 1: with your business.
- 45:07Speaker 4: You're just at peace with yourself.
- 45:10Speaker 1: Just the encounter that I'm having with you right now,
- 45:12Speaker 1: like we was talking about before we started recording, like
- 45:16Speaker 1: we haven't seen each other in years, talked in years,
- 45:18Speaker 1: and you know, people can get get stuck in the
- 45:23Speaker 1: identity they knew you as versus giving you room for
- 45:26Speaker 1: where you've grown. And there is definitely growth there. And
- 45:31Speaker 1: I know that wasn't easy because I know there's some
- 45:33Speaker 1: things oh bye blah blah, Oh, there are some things.
- 45:40Speaker 1: There are some things that Jessica has had to rid
- 45:42Speaker 1: of apologize to herself for, apologize to others for. And
- 45:48Speaker 1: just giving people room to grow is very important to me,
- 45:52Speaker 1: to show that they have developed in a space.
- 45:55Speaker 4: And so I'm proud of you, girl. I'm woud journey.
- 46:01Speaker 2: It's gonna journey, it's gonna continue being a journey. I
- 46:05Speaker 2: always say this. You know, I think a lot of
- 46:07Speaker 2: black women have this story as well. I wasn't raised
- 46:11Speaker 2: in a house with a mama who apologized, right, So
- 46:16Speaker 2: I love my mom. My mom loves me. But like
- 46:20Speaker 2: just the culture sometimes of like you're just doing people wrong,
- 46:23Speaker 2: just be like, grow my bad? What was what was
- 46:25Speaker 2: I thinking? Like, you know, that just wasn't something. And
- 46:28Speaker 2: so I had to teach myself those things, you know,
- 46:32Speaker 2: even accountability, those are things that I had to teach
- 46:36Speaker 2: myself on being accountable. It is not being weak, right,
- 46:41Speaker 2: Apologizing is not being weak. And again when I say
- 46:47Speaker 2: that wasn't me so long ago, it wasn't. I had
- 46:50Speaker 2: to teach myself that, you know, I would say, probably
- 46:55Speaker 2: what yere we in? It started when he eighteen, twenty twenty, Yeah,
- 47:04Speaker 2: probably twenty eighteen. Just being more accountable, doing self reflection
- 47:08Speaker 2: and being like if everybody is saying this about your charity,
- 47:11Speaker 2: everybody ain't lying, Like everybody ain't lion, So you might
- 47:16Speaker 2: want to do some self reflection.
- 47:19Speaker 1: So yeah, no, that I think the best thing just
- 47:23Speaker 1: developing as a woman, Like there's no manual for this, right,
- 47:28Speaker 1: there's no manu. Especially I can imagine if your Mama
- 47:31Speaker 1: didn't apologize. She also didn't have the gift of letting
- 47:36Speaker 1: you know certain things or being vulnerable.
- 47:39Speaker 4: Right.
- 47:40Speaker 1: Apology require a level of vulnerability and transparency, and that's
- 47:45Speaker 1: what people don't want to do. They don't want to
- 47:47Speaker 1: show that they're quote unquote weak. But it's not really weakness.
- 47:50Speaker 1: I found. I found strength in being transparent and vulnerable.
- 47:56Speaker 1: Thank you, Holy Spirit. What I'm hearing to tell you now,
- 47:59Speaker 1: I just I gotta be obedient. I heard the Lord say,
- 48:02Speaker 1: tell the story, Charity, tell the story. And it's because
- 48:06Speaker 1: you are the woman that you are now, and you've
- 48:09Speaker 1: developed in that and you've been able to maneuver, and
- 48:11Speaker 1: you're not angry.
- 48:13Speaker 4: You don't have language for anger.
- 48:14Speaker 1: So when you tell your story, it's not going to
- 48:17Speaker 1: sound like you're bad to anybody because it's coming from you.
- 48:21Speaker 1: Your language is connected to who you are, not where
- 48:24Speaker 1: you've been. Oh my gosh, thank you Holy Spirit. Your
- 48:28Speaker 1: language now. And I even see you writing a book.
- 48:31Speaker 1: I don't know if you're in the process of writing
- 48:32Speaker 1: a book. I don't know if you've been told that,
- 48:35Speaker 1: but I almost called you author when I introduced you,
- 48:38Speaker 1: because I really feel like even people need to see
- 48:41Speaker 1: you in written form, and so I even pray for
- 48:43Speaker 1: you right now in that to where because you're so
- 48:47Speaker 1: prepared and you're like, how would I navigate that? There
- 48:50Speaker 1: are tools, just like you use tools for your business
- 48:52Speaker 1: to operate. I believe God would present you tools and
- 48:55Speaker 1: avenues to be able to do that. You have a
- 48:58Speaker 1: very unique story and your your voice and your language
- 49:03Speaker 1: is needed for a time such as this. So I
- 49:04Speaker 1: just I want to be obedient and.
- 49:07Speaker 4: Put that out.
- 49:09Speaker 1: And put that out there like bam, okay, But does
- 49:13Speaker 1: a ray up been over here shaking her leg girl,
- 49:15Speaker 1: So I'm gonna let I woulda let her say something
- 49:17Speaker 1: because this has been I've learned so much sitting here
- 49:20Speaker 1: talking to you, and I feel like I want to
- 49:22Speaker 1: talk to you more like, oh I got a question.
- 49:30Speaker 5: No, this has been really good. What was as I
- 49:33Speaker 5: was listening, the Lord was just reminding me, I don't know,
- 49:37Speaker 5: he does this a lot about the importance of Jeremiah
- 49:41Speaker 5: twenty nine and living right. We said a lot, you know,
- 49:44Speaker 5: almost kind of cliches just come on really really simple.
- 49:46Speaker 5: But if we if we really understand what it's saying,
- 49:48Speaker 5: it's saying the Lord is saying, Hey, I.
- 49:51Speaker 4: Have a plan for you. Right. The plan was already
- 49:54Speaker 4: set before you even made it to the earth.
- 49:55Speaker 2: Right.
- 49:56Speaker 5: And a lot of times when we make it here,
- 49:58Speaker 5: we we journey through life, we have life experiences, we
- 50:02Speaker 5: you know, get interesting things and stuff like that. But
- 50:05Speaker 5: I think we talked about this just a couple of
- 50:07Speaker 5: episodes ago about the suffering, right, like that comes along
- 50:11Speaker 5: with the life that we that we live. But the
- 50:13Speaker 5: beautiful thing is that God uses everything, and so it
- 50:17Speaker 5: sounds like you he already knew where you were headed.
- 50:19Speaker 5: He just used a moment that was unfortunate, that hurt
- 50:23Speaker 5: that you know, that had the opportunity to set up
- 50:26Speaker 5: some bitterness. But what it did was it just projected
- 50:29Speaker 5: you into the path that He had already set out
- 50:31Speaker 5: for you. And so now you're walking this path, you're
- 50:33Speaker 5: being obedient, you're doing the things that that was already
- 50:36Speaker 5: set out for you. And because of that one moment,
- 50:40Speaker 5: the decision, the decision that you made to not be bitter.
- 50:42Speaker 5: In that moment, God was like, Hi, I can trust
- 50:44Speaker 5: her now. And then that he began to to just
- 50:49Speaker 5: to to to open the doors. And so it's been
- 50:51Speaker 5: really beautiful just to listen and even in the space
- 50:54Speaker 5: that you're in. It's so needed, you know, I think
- 50:56Speaker 5: we're getting more language now to a lot of diagnos
- 51:00Speaker 5: sees that's happening with our children and things like that.
- 51:02Speaker 5: And to have people that have a heart, to have
- 51:04Speaker 5: the heart of the father, you know, it's one thing
- 51:07Speaker 5: to you know, just be interested in thinking, yeah, this
- 51:09Speaker 5: is cool, but to have the heart of the father.
- 51:10Speaker 5: And you can tell that by the standard that you
- 51:12Speaker 5: set with your team, how you how you choose to
- 51:15Speaker 5: operate your business, Like that's that's a level of excellence
- 51:18Speaker 5: that everybody does not have, and it's needed in this
- 51:20Speaker 5: space because of how sensitive the area is that you're
- 51:24Speaker 5: working in. So I just thank you for for your
- 51:26Speaker 5: obedience and just for sharing your story. Like just said,
- 51:28Speaker 5: like the story needs to be heard because there's so
- 51:31Speaker 5: many women specifically out there who they're wrestling with this
- 51:35Speaker 5: thing right that the Lord that they that they know
- 51:37Speaker 5: that they're supposed to be doing, but they're like, I
- 51:39Speaker 5: don't know how to do this because you know, I
- 51:41Speaker 5: don't have the time, blah blah blah. Well, baby, we
- 51:43Speaker 5: just heard from somebody that live in Florida that's driving
- 51:46Speaker 5: like multiple times a week with a baby with a husband,
- 51:48Speaker 5: with multiple businesses with she's a woman, you know, she's
- 51:51Speaker 5: probably in other things as well, and she's doing it
- 51:53Speaker 5: by the grace of God, you know. So just thank
- 51:56Speaker 5: you for for coming on to the to the platform
- 51:58Speaker 5: and sharing your voice with us to day.
- 52:01Speaker 2: Thank y'all so much for having me. This has been
- 52:04Speaker 2: a wonderful conversation. I don't know, wait, I'm saying that,
- 52:06Speaker 2: like we do.
- 52:07Speaker 4: Are we doing well? Where towards the ending?
- 52:11Speaker 1: Because if I ask you, if I ask you another question,
- 52:13Speaker 1: we were gonna be gone for like two hours. Like now,
- 52:17Speaker 1: we try to keep it to where like people, because
- 52:19Speaker 1: it's always a way to come back.
- 52:22Speaker 4: It's always a way to come back.
- 52:24Speaker 1: And so Charity, I just want to reiterate what it
- 52:27Speaker 1: has already been said, like I'm I'm genuinely proud of you.
- 52:30Speaker 4: I am genuinely proud of you like you're.
- 52:33Speaker 1: Doing, you are doing some phenomenal things, and I'm just
- 52:39Speaker 1: so grateful that you gave just as a yes. And
- 52:42Speaker 1: then just to find out this is your first podcast,
- 52:44Speaker 1: which I kind of figured it because I was like, oh,
- 52:46Speaker 1: she ain't got no interviews or anything like that.
- 52:48Speaker 4: So so.
- 52:52Speaker 2: A couple of months ago and I just got like
- 52:55Speaker 2: so busy. But I'm actually doing one with her next week.
- 52:59Speaker 4: Two back, come on.
- 53:01Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm super excited. This is great. I love chatting.
- 53:05Speaker 2: I love talking, so and share a little bit of
- 53:09Speaker 2: my story.
- 53:10Speaker 4: Yes, because it's only a little bit. That's the gag.
- 53:13Speaker 4: It is only only a little bit.
- 53:15Speaker 1: So charity as a tradition on just as we like
- 53:18Speaker 1: to give our our guests the final word, and if
- 53:22Speaker 1: there was something that we didn't say, or something that
- 53:25Speaker 1: you want to make sure that they leave with, the
- 53:27Speaker 1: time is is now to reflect on that?
- 53:33Speaker 2: Oh goodness, let me think. Is this just supposed to
- 53:38Speaker 2: be anything?
- 53:39Speaker 4: Yeah, anything that's on your heart?
- 53:43Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know, y'all have to edit this part out.
- 53:52Speaker 4: We don't edit. We don't edit. This is really wrong.
- 53:56Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh I don't know. I really I don't know.
- 54:04Speaker 2: I really don't know what to say that I haven't
- 54:08Speaker 2: already said. I'll say this. One thing that I really
- 54:22Speaker 2: think is important, and this is in any field, is
- 54:25Speaker 2: to really follow your passion. I know a lot of
- 54:28Speaker 2: people get into different things because of the dollar signs
- 54:33Speaker 2: or the potential for this or the potential for that.
- 54:37Speaker 2: And when I went to grad school, One of the
- 54:40Speaker 2: first things my professor said is you won't be a millionaire.
- 54:47Speaker 2: You won't make a whole bunch of money from being
- 54:50Speaker 2: a BCBA, like from being a BCBA and working in
- 54:54Speaker 2: a clinic. That's what he said. I didn't receive that.
- 55:01Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know what you're talking about,
- 55:03Speaker 2: you know, but I didn't get in it for that, right,
- 55:06Speaker 2: So I didn't say, well, let me get out of
- 55:07Speaker 2: school because I need to make a whole bunch of money.
- 55:10Speaker 2: I continue to follow the path that I truly believe
- 55:15Speaker 2: was designed for me because I love this work, not
- 55:18Speaker 2: because of the money. And I'll just say I think
- 55:22Speaker 2: God proved him out to be.
- 55:25Speaker 4: A lie, you know.
- 55:30Speaker 2: I think that. You know, I've done exceptionally well and
- 55:33Speaker 2: that's not because of anything other than following the path
- 55:36Speaker 2: that I know God designed for me and following my passion.
- 55:40Speaker 2: So with anything, I don't care if it's being a
- 55:43Speaker 2: garbage man, be the best garbage man you can be.
- 55:46Speaker 2: You might be over a garbage man. And now you're
- 55:48Speaker 2: a millionaire, right, so follow and follow you know what
- 55:56Speaker 2: you are truly passionate about, and the money will come.
- 55:59Speaker 2: The other thing, we'll call.
- 56:00Speaker 4: It aymen that follow the passion.
- 56:03Speaker 1: Listen, this has been I hope you guys take account
- 56:08Speaker 1: to what she.
- 56:09Speaker 4: Has told us today. She's taught us a lot. She
- 56:12Speaker 4: taught us about leadership, taught us about using the tools
- 56:16Speaker 4: to navigate and balance our life. She's taught us about
- 56:19Speaker 4: not being angry. Anger is a choice. Uh huh.
- 56:23Speaker 1: Yeah, and she landed with allowing us to remember to
- 56:27Speaker 1: follow the passion and not the dollar sign. And so listen,
- 56:30Speaker 1: I'm gonna be able to feast on this one for
- 56:32Speaker 1: a while because it just motivated me that much. And
- 56:35Speaker 1: so I hope you guys y'all digest this. Leave it
- 56:38Speaker 1: a comment, tell me what you learn today, because I
- 56:41Speaker 1: know I learned a lot. But until next week, until
- 56:44Speaker 1: next time, remember life could be much more simple if
- 56:48Speaker 1: you just ask.
- 56:55Speaker 2: Thank you for tuning in to this week's episode.
- 56:58Speaker 1: Since you've made it this far, you might as well
- 57:00Speaker 1: connect with us on all social media.
- 57:02Speaker 4: Platforms at the Jessica S.
- 57:04Speaker 2: Smith.
- 57:05Speaker 1: I know I won't see you back until next week,
- 57:08Speaker 1: but until then, remember to love always yourself and always
- 57:14Speaker 1: thank thank God.
- 57:15Speaker 2: For one another day.
- 57:18Speaker 3: Hey, Hey, I know we could be another way. Hey,
- 57:24Speaker 3: pray thank God for another day. Hey, Hey, I'm just thankful.
- 57:31Speaker 3: Another day, Hey hey, Another day, oh, another day wise,
- 57:38Speaker 3: another day to get it right, another day to rise up,
- 57:41Speaker 3: another day living. Another day.
- 57:43Speaker 2: We loved ones.
- 57:44Speaker 3: I always remember, hold it down for a ball one, yuhay,