Latest / INSIGHT TODAY / She started swinging for her husband. It left her traumatised
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- 0:00Speaker 1: This is the story of the UK's biggest swinging website
- 0:04Speaker 1: and Ruth, a woman who says she was pressured into
- 0:07Speaker 1: joining it by her husband and ended up having sex
- 0:11Speaker 1: with strangers more than a hundred times. All these men
- 0:15Speaker 1: are abusing my body to the point where it's getting infected,
- 0:20Speaker 1: getting unwell. Her story is shocking and upsetting. She wants
- 0:25Speaker 1: to tell it because she believes there will be other
- 0:28Speaker 1: women who like her, have been left traumatized if they're
- 0:32Speaker 1: just that little bit safer, a little bit more aware, or.
- 0:35Speaker 2: It just plants a seed that would be better for them.
- 0:40Speaker 1: We've spent months investigating Ruth's case, the website fab Swingers
- 0:44Speaker 1: and the wider swinging community. This is what we found.
- 0:49Speaker 2: He wanted men to come round chat for five minutes,
- 0:55Speaker 2: you know, so he could make sure he was happy
- 0:57Speaker 2: with them, and then it was have sex with my wife.
- 1:02Speaker 2: I'll come in if I want to look, I'll leave
- 1:05Speaker 2: if I don't. But you just do that and then
- 1:09Speaker 2: be on your way.
- 1:10Speaker 1: Ruth says she was pressured into joining the UK's most
- 1:14Speaker 1: popular swinging website by her husband. She's decided to tell
- 1:18Speaker 1: her story because she believes there will be other women
- 1:22Speaker 1: who like her have been left traumatized.
- 1:25Speaker 2: If there's any sort of relatability or some feeling in
- 1:29Speaker 2: their gut and maybe they're isolated from everyone, and if
- 1:33Speaker 2: they can just hear a little alarm bell ringing.
- 1:36Speaker 1: The website Ruth joined with her husband was called fab Swingers.
- 1:40Speaker 1: It claims to have over half a million active accounts
- 1:43Speaker 1: in the UK. Swinging typically involves people swapping partners, but
- 1:48Speaker 1: can be just one partner having sexual encounters. Ruth says
- 1:52Speaker 1: she only did it to keep her husband happy, but
- 1:55Speaker 1: things escalated very quickly. She ended up having sex with
- 1:59Speaker 1: strangers more than a hundred times.
- 2:01Speaker 2: I know that can sound absolutely bar me to someone
- 2:07Speaker 2: just hearing the story, but remember this isn't overnight. Imagine
- 2:12Speaker 2: being with someone for twelve years and them telling you,
- 2:16Speaker 2: just convincing you of something. Eventually you're going to believe in.
- 2:19Speaker 1: Ruth caught STIs, got pregnant and ended up having an abortion.
- 2:24Speaker 2: I was going through the termination. It's really really painful,
- 2:28Speaker 2: and he invited someone around to have oral. I realized
- 2:35Speaker 2: he really doesn't care about my body. All these men
- 2:39Speaker 2: are abusing my body to getting infected, getting unwell, and
- 2:44Speaker 2: now this termination is happening, and yet I'm still having
- 2:47Speaker 2: to meet these men.
- 2:50Speaker 1: Ruth's ex husband declined to be interviewed by the BBC.
- 2:54Speaker 1: We've been investigating swinging for eight months. Women's charities and
- 2:58Speaker 1: experts have told us that it can sometimes be a
- 3:00Speaker 1: feature of controlling relationships, but it's an extremely hidden problem
- 3:06Speaker 1: that until now has just not been discussed publicly.
- 3:10Speaker 3: The sense of shame that women feel from having engaged
- 3:13Speaker 3: in that they feel embarrassed to even tell their friends
- 3:16Speaker 3: about it. It also gives men a lot of AMMO
- 3:20Speaker 3: text messages, if not photographs or in videos. They perhaps
- 3:26Speaker 3: have thought that they might enjoy it to start with,
- 3:29Speaker 3: Very quickly the abusive nature of those liaisons becomes worse
- 3:36Speaker 3: and worse.
- 3:37Speaker 1: Ruth told us there were moments when she appeared to
- 3:39Speaker 1: be a happy swinger, at times arranging some of the
- 3:42Speaker 1: meetings herself. She says she would act enthusiastic to keep
- 3:47Speaker 1: her husband happy, but she also repeatedly told him she
- 3:50Speaker 1: was scared and traumatized. Her story made me investigate swinging further.
- 3:56Speaker 1: On the fab Swinger's website, sex is often arranged in
- 4:00Speaker 1: advance via message, which means consent is often discussed or
- 4:06Speaker 1: presumed ahead of a meeting. I wanted to know whether
- 4:10Speaker 1: men using fab swingers consider whether the women they're sleeping
- 4:13Speaker 1: with are doing it because they really want to. One man, Martin,
- 4:17Speaker 1: is in his late forties and uses fab swingers. We've
- 4:21Speaker 1: changed his name and voice because he spoke to us
- 4:23Speaker 1: on the condition of anonymity. To be clear, Martin never
- 4:26Speaker 1: met Ruth on the website. Can I ask how many
- 4:30Speaker 1: people you've met through fab swingers and had sex of
- 4:34Speaker 1: some kind with a round.
- 4:36Speaker 3: Them at fifteen to sixty, mainly with married women, whether
- 4:40Speaker 3: husbands want to watch.
- 4:42Speaker 1: One evening, he was at a meet group sex with
- 4:45Speaker 1: a married couple in their early forties. Lots of messages
- 4:49Speaker 1: had been exchanged beforehand, Martin says. In the messages the
- 4:53Speaker 1: woman sounded keen. When Martin got to the house, there
- 4:56Speaker 1: was another man there. To me, the women looked.
- 5:00Speaker 2: She was badged into it. My husband and someone else
- 5:03Speaker 2: was saying, yeah, come on this harder, And I think
- 5:06Speaker 2: they were coerced into that situation.
- 5:11Speaker 1: So you felt like she was being made to have
- 5:13Speaker 1: sex with you?
- 5:14Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, that's not a turn on for me. That's
- 5:18Speaker 2: not something that I'm happy about.
- 5:20Speaker 1: I'm going to ask a bit of a brutal question here.
- 5:23Speaker 1: Did you feel in that situation like you were raping someone? Yes,
- 5:29Speaker 1: How many of the women you've slept with that are
- 5:32Speaker 1: in couples? Do you think don't want to be doing.
- 5:35Speaker 3: It over half?
- 5:38Speaker 1: Martin told us that until that moment he thought this
- 5:41Speaker 1: woman was consenting because of messages sent before they met.
- 5:45Speaker 1: He didn't report the incident to the police and says
- 5:48Speaker 1: he now deeply regrets that. Fabswingers told us it ran
- 5:53Speaker 1: its website in adherence with the Regulator Ofcom's requirements. It
- 5:58Speaker 1: said reports of non consensual activity are treated by them
- 6:01Speaker 1: as a priority risk. Women's charities and Ruth told us
- 6:06Speaker 1: they hope this investigation will enable other women to speak
- 6:10Speaker 1: out
- 6:11Speaker 2: If they're just that little bit safer, or a little
- 6:13Speaker 2: bit more aware, or it just plants a seed that
- 6:17Speaker 2: would be better for them