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Chuck & Buck 10-17 Hour 2: 12th Man News with Gregg Bell and Bryce Miller and the Mariners heading into a big game. · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Right side, Rick whide to a shot from Montur turn aside,
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Speaker 1: the rebound stars Shane Wright the second chance off the
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Speaker 1: rebound and the krack.
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Speaker 2: And have a one nothing lead. Schwartz picks off the
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Speaker 2: buck down the slot.
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Speaker 1: Stevenson stars Stevenson down low Everly China shovel it in
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Speaker 1: turn aside rebound Stevenson stars Chandler. Stevenson left circle on
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Speaker 1: the power play gives the Crack in the lead back.
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Speaker 1: It's three to two and there goes old Mark off
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Speaker 1: to the bench. Extra attacker on here for Ottawa nearside
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Speaker 1: Cousins scores.
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Speaker 2: Ottawa ties the game three three five.
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Speaker 1: Seconds to go in over the blue line Sanderson left circle,
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Speaker 1: his sud begged off the pots at the horn and
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Speaker 1: auto play.
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Speaker 2: We're going to a shootout.
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Speaker 1: Shane Pentto can put it for the whole team right
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Speaker 1: hand a shot Shane Pencil from the red line carries
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Speaker 1: it over left side of the circle.
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Speaker 3: Now cuts back to the slot.
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Speaker 2: Walks In shoots scores. Peer bits you on the call
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Speaker 2: last night as the Crack and do get a point,
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Speaker 2: but for the second game in a row, they lose
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Speaker 2: beyond regulation play, this time to the Ottawa Senators. In
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Speaker 2: a shootout final score four to three. They have earned
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Speaker 2: a point in all four of their games so far
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Speaker 2: this young season, and they will also be taking on
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Speaker 2: Toronto tomorrow. How about that boy, we got a score
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Speaker 2: to settle with Toronto. I'll tell you that much. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: time for your headlines and of course, the top story today.
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Speaker 2: The Mariners do lose to the Toronto Blue Jays yesterday
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Speaker 2: by a final score of eight to two. Team has
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Speaker 2: been outscored twenty one to six since returning home with
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Speaker 2: a two to zero lead in the American League Championship
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Speaker 2: Series and now suddenly the series is even at two
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Speaker 2: games apiece, so it's a best of three and that
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Speaker 2: starts tonight at home or actually this afternoon three o'clock start.
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Speaker 2: Bryce Miller gets the call for the Mariners. He'll be
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Speaker 2: going up against Kevin Gosman. He is Kevin Gosman their
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Speaker 2: number one starter, but Bryce Miller has already bested him
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Speaker 2: once in this series. We'll look to do that again today,
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Speaker 2: starting at three o'clock. Headlines are brought to you by
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Speaker 2: Frostbrewed Corps, Light Shoes Chill. Los Angeles Dodgers are having
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Speaker 2: an easy time with the team that finished with the
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Speaker 2: best record in baseball, the Milwaukee Brewers. The Dodgers won
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Speaker 2: yesterday three to one, so they are up three in
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Speaker 2: the series. Looks like they are certainly going to be
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Speaker 2: punching their ticket to the World Series soon. Krack and
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Speaker 2: I mentioned lost in a shootout. Huskies will be at
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Speaker 2: Michigan tomorrow nine am kickoff. Hanks will be on the
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Speaker 2: air at six a m Seahawks won't play until Monday
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Speaker 2: night football against the Texans. Cincinnati started the new week
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Speaker 2: of the National Football League season with a surprising thirty
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Speaker 2: three p thirty one win over Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers'
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Speaker 2: first matchup in NFL history featuring two starting quarterbacks both
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Speaker 2: over the age of forty. From what I understand of course,
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Speaker 2: a huge schedule on Sunday and then a double header
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Speaker 2: on Monday, which I'm not sure I really like. Let's
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Speaker 2: ask Greg Bell about it. Saw Greg and the food
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Speaker 2: line last night. Didn't see him much beyond that, So yeah,
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Speaker 2: not exactly the ideal situation last night. There was it there, Gregor.
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Speaker 4: No. It reminded me how suddenly baseball change. It's unlike
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Speaker 4: you got to wait seven days the postseason for baseball
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Speaker 4: changes so quickly. And that's what the Toronto guys were
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Speaker 4: talking about. And now it's the series is completely on
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Speaker 4: its head, as you said, best of three, and that's
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Speaker 4: what the Mariner show connect to. It's what Kyle Rally
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Speaker 4: said in the clubhouse after the game, and Pryce Miller
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Speaker 4: has if he can duplicate what he did in Toronto
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Speaker 4: on Sunday, then there'll be one win away again. But yeah,
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Speaker 4: it's Toronto has gone from doing nothing to everything offensively.
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Speaker 4: That's pitching for the Mariners just has not been able
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Speaker 4: to make any pitches they want to make.
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Speaker 2: It is strange, though, Bucky, like, it doesn't seem like
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Speaker 2: there's momentum in this sport, even though teams do put
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Speaker 2: together ten game eighteen game winning streaks or you know,
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Speaker 2: fifteen game losing streaks, And every time I bring it
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Speaker 2: up to a guy that played at the major league level,
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Speaker 2: they're always no, no, no, it's there. It's just different.
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Speaker 2: I don't really know how to explain it, because, believe me,
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Speaker 2: Toronto and their fans were thinking their goose was cooked
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Speaker 2: when they left Toronto to come here. They thought they
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Speaker 2: that the series was over. So it's not like something
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Speaker 2: unique to just Marinder fans when they watch back to
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Speaker 2: back subpar performances. Believe me, Toronto and the national people
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Speaker 2: thought the series we had Harold Reynolds on I don't
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Speaker 2: see a path for the Blue Jays to come back,
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Speaker 2: and here we are to tom nothing.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean to me, it feels like it's
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Speaker 5: because there's so many opportunities, like to what Greg's kind
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Speaker 5: of saying, like in football, you gotta wait six days
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Speaker 5: and you got to wait a week to play. So
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Speaker 5: even if you're you won three four games in a row,
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Speaker 5: it's like we do we have momentum. We have played
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Speaker 5: for a week, whereas in baseball it's like you can
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Speaker 5: you can snap that momentum and then next thing you know,
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Speaker 5: you have it and the next day you have it again.
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Speaker 5: And yet it can turn.
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Speaker 3: On a dime.
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Speaker 2: It's it can turn on a dime.
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Speaker 5: It's basically the momentum builds every single game from one
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Speaker 5: pitch to the next.
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Speaker 3: That's the beauty.
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Speaker 4: It's true. Every game is its own edits in the
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Speaker 4: playoffs exactly when we least SkyDome Monday Night whatever they
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Speaker 4: call it now, Rogers Center, I think it rebuilding in
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Speaker 4: Canada's colled to Rodgers Center. They were the staffers are saying, yeah,
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Speaker 4: we're not coming back. Yeah, we're closing it up. I'll
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Speaker 4: see you next spring. They were just they were gonna
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Speaker 4: pack the park up and be done. They didn't pick
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Speaker 4: their coming back either.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they turned on a dime once they can do
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Speaker 2: it again. Greg Bell with us our Seahawks insider, but
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Speaker 2: he has been covering the Mariners for the News Tribune
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Speaker 2: throughout the playoffs. Here, all right, so we don't play
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Speaker 2: until Monday nights. I don't know how you feel about this,
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Speaker 2: but it's not like a selfish Seahawk thing. It's not
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Speaker 2: like we I have to have the Seahawks have the
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Speaker 2: stage to themselves. But shouldn't Monday night be precious shouldn't
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Speaker 2: there only be one game on Monday night football for
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Speaker 2: goodness sake.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and there shouldn't be Thursday games, so there shouldn't
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Speaker 4: be Friday games.
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Speaker 2: Scratch that itch again.
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Speaker 4: Yes, there shouldn't be a ten o'clock eastern, seven o'clock
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Speaker 4: Pacific game. I think this will be the latest Seahawks
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Speaker 4: home game ever because they've never had this doubleheader backside
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Speaker 4: doubleheader at a Seahawks home game before. And so to
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Speaker 4: land after ten o'clock, and yeah, I'll get out of
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Speaker 4: the Stateium at one o'clock and may have just flown
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Speaker 4: in from Toronto, may not, may still be in Toronto
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Speaker 4: and someone else might be covering the Seahawks game for
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Speaker 4: the news tribute. I don't know yet. But as far
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Speaker 4: as the players, they're on West Coast time, they live here,
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Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. It may matter a bit to Houston bodyclockwise.
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Speaker 4: They're playing at nine o'clock Houston time. First kickoff is
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Speaker 4: at nine o'clock. But once they play, they they're professionals,
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Speaker 4: it won't matter. But for fans, yeah, it's reminds me
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Speaker 4: of the Huskies and all the eight o'clock starts. And
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Speaker 4: at least there's no sale gaming to ruin. I guess
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Speaker 4: for seven o'clock Seahawks start well.
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Speaker 5: See, I mean you sitting a fourn too, and kind
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Speaker 5: of feeling probably, I would imagine, fairly good about coming
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Speaker 5: off of that win against Jacksonville. I mean, is it
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Speaker 5: are we far enough into this to just basically say, yep,
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Speaker 5: Sam Donald's that's our franchise quarterback moving forward.
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Speaker 3: I mean for the foreseeable future anyways, foreseeable future.
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Speaker 4: Yes, And there's no reason to think that they won't
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Speaker 4: out of the second third year of his contracts. We
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Speaker 4: know he could, he could, They see us could get
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Speaker 4: out of it relatively cheaply in the next year and
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Speaker 4: next year after that. You know, it's a three year deal.
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Speaker 4: But so far he's been one of the best quarterbacks
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Speaker 4: in the league. And again what's surprising is he's doing
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Speaker 4: it not by design. They were going to run the ball.
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Speaker 4: They're still going to run the ball, but they were
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Speaker 4: gonna run the ball more effectively. That was the whole
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Speaker 4: idea of Clint Kubiak coming here, and they signed Sam
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Speaker 4: Donald to be a complimentary quarterback off the run game
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Speaker 4: play action, pass, bootlegs, run, run, run, throw, and they
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Speaker 4: just run a little bit, not much then throw throw,
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Speaker 4: So it has been not by design, which has perhaps
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Speaker 4: been even more impressive that he has carried them and
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Speaker 4: that wasn't what they thought when they signed him. They
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Speaker 4: are vowing to do what they've been doing so far,
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Speaker 4: which is to continue to run. It's becoming interesting about
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Speaker 4: the Zach Charbona Kenneth Walker snapcount splits and a lot
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Speaker 4: of fans are saying, why is Sharbonee getting the ball
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Speaker 4: when he is the lowest yards for carrying the league.
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Speaker 4: I think it's two point one or two point six
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Speaker 4: or something. And the answer McDonald won't come right and
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Speaker 4: say it, but the answer is they're trying to get
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Speaker 4: Walker through all seventeen games. They've talked about the foot
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Speaker 4: issue he has and it's a long term thing that
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Speaker 4: they are really managing through games. And you'll see Charboney
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Speaker 4: get entire series, usually in the second quarter, plus he
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Speaker 4: gets all the two minutes, plus he gets the third
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Speaker 4: down reps. And so when you combine all of those
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Speaker 4: and if they're in two minute quite a bit or
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Speaker 4: succeeding in two minutes with first downs, those snapstars to
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Speaker 4: add up, and all of a sudden he's got more
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Speaker 4: than Walker does, even though Walker has more productivity. So
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Speaker 4: when you're screaming, why is twenty six on the field,
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Speaker 4: it's because they're trying to get nine through the whole season.
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Speaker 4: And it appears that they think if they gave him
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Speaker 4: the bell cow load that he would break down and
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Speaker 4: won't be able to play in the next game. And that,
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Speaker 4: in the simplest terms, is why the splits are what
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Speaker 4: they are despite the production.
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Speaker 2: Greg Mel is with US Seahawks. Insight can follow him
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Speaker 2: at g mel Seattle, and right now he's doing double
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Speaker 2: duty covering the Mariners and the Seahawks who won't play
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Speaker 2: until Monday night against the Houston Texans. Is that extra
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Speaker 2: day at all valuable and trying to get Witherspoon and
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Speaker 2: Love on the field. How whole will the secondary be
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Speaker 2: by Monday night?
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Speaker 4: Yeah? I think it does matter. And in fact, Witherspoon
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Speaker 4: and Love were practicing yesterday. They were both listed as
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Speaker 4: limited participants. I saw Love at the beginning of practice
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Speaker 4: moving around pretty well, and he hadn't practiced in a
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Speaker 4: couple of weeks. Riek Wollen was full apparently through the
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Speaker 4: concussion protocol, and they'll see how he respond to going
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Speaker 4: a full participant in practice since first time since the
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Speaker 4: concussion two games ago, but all three of them practicing
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Speaker 4: four days before the game suggests that they're going to
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Speaker 4: all three play and their secondary will be whole, and
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Speaker 4: that will help because they haven't had a whole secondary
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Speaker 4: since the first half of the first game, because Witherspoon
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Speaker 4: got hurt in the second half colliding with Josh Job
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Speaker 4: when Joeb intercepted brock Purty way back on September seventh,
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Speaker 4: and since then, Witherspoon's only played two of six games.
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Speaker 4: The first game they got hurt, and he came back
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Speaker 4: through the Arizona game September twenty fifth, and then hasn't
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Speaker 4: played again since. So it's somewhat remarkable. They're four and
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Speaker 4: two and their defense, except for the Tampa Bay game,
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Speaker 4: has controlled games without who I think their best player,
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Speaker 4: Devin Witherspoon is, and I would expect they're going to
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Speaker 4: go back to what they started the season with, which
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Speaker 4: is Witherspoon inside and Job and Woollen outside when they
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Speaker 4: go Nickel but Nick even worrying now being full go
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Speaker 4: too and playing really where I thought he played an
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Speaker 4: excellent game in Jacksonville, especially tackling, give them options and
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Speaker 4: extra defensive backs, and it'll be interesting to see how
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Speaker 4: much they go traditional nickel and how much they'll go
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Speaker 4: big nickel with Witherspoon against Houston.
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Speaker 3: Gee.
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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't think that anybody over there would
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Speaker 5: be content or super happy with where they're at as
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Speaker 5: far as their run game goes at this point. And
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Speaker 5: yet it's semi effective, just not really kind of clicking
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Speaker 5: on all cylinders. And so even without that, the play
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Speaker 5: action passing is working well. So what is next? Do
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Speaker 5: you think to get that run game going a little bit?
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Speaker 5: Or are they happy with where it's at because it's
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Speaker 5: being honored by the defense and hence the reason why
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Speaker 5: the play action passworks.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a bunch of anaalgic numbers that say it's
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Speaker 4: a chicken or the egg type of argument about play
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Speaker 4: action pass Do you need a run game or do
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Speaker 4: you not a lot of new age, new fangled numbers
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Speaker 4: say that you don't the old school thinking, and McDonald
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Speaker 4: and Kubiak subscribe to the old school thinking, saying gap
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Speaker 4: for a defense to honor it, you have to run
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Speaker 4: the ball so that they don't just come into the
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Speaker 4: quarterback and the defensive lineman, I actually have to think
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Speaker 4: about Reid run before pass and slow them down. But
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Speaker 4: they're going to keep running. They aren't happy with it.
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Speaker 4: They seem to be moving the ball and succeeding on
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Speaker 4: offense despite their running game, which is not supposed to
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Speaker 4: see the opposite of that. So it will be continue
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Speaker 4: to be a slog until they get better blocking. And
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Speaker 4: it's that simple. When there are multiple players in the hole,
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Speaker 4: or even worse, multiple defenders in the backfield, you're not
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Speaker 4: going to get yards. And again in Jacksonville, they were
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Speaker 4: multiple defenders multiple times, many times in the backfield on
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Speaker 4: running plays, and until the offensive line moves guys out
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Speaker 4: of holes and off the line, they're going to continue
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Speaker 4: to struggle running the ball. It's not like the guys
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Speaker 4: are running into players on their own. They're going to
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Speaker 4: where the play's designed to go. It's not being blocked.
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Speaker 4: And that's the issue, plain and simple. You can call
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Speaker 4: it targeting. They used that term all the time, meaning
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Speaker 4: blocking them in the right part of the right body
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Speaker 4: and out of the right side of the hole. They
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Speaker 4: just need to be stronger, better, tougher, and nastier in
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Speaker 4: pushing guys off the wall. They did it early in
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Speaker 4: the season. They did it in Pittsburgh. But we saw
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Speaker 4: last night, or I didn't see it. I was in
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Speaker 4: the ballpark, but the nation and Football Nations saw the
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Speaker 4: Steelers got pushed around by the Bengals. The Steelers have
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Speaker 4: big problems on defense stuff in the run, and that's
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Speaker 4: the only game that they've had sustained success running it.
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Speaker 4: Even that game wasn't until the second half that in
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Speaker 4: some games the number is like one hundred and twenty
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Speaker 4: two yards rushing against Tampa. But you really didn't feel
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Speaker 4: like they controlled the game at all running because they
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Speaker 4: were given up thirty eight points on the other side
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Speaker 4: of the all. So, as you can tell, but as
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Speaker 4: we're talking here, this is a flawed team that is
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Speaker 4: not whole. Hasn't played a complete game. They haven't run
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Speaker 4: the ball while their defense is played well. The New
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Speaker 4: Orleans game when they want with thirty five to three
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Speaker 4: in the second quarter might be the only game you
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Speaker 4: could point to with that. But New Orleans is terrible.
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Speaker 4: So it's a four and two team with a lot,
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Speaker 4: I mean a lot to work. I went just from
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Speaker 4: a coaching perspective, really great that you can have the
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Speaker 4: attention of your players and just flip on the Tapa
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Speaker 4: Bay tape on defense say look at this, you guys
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Speaker 4: couldn't tackle it all and throwing them almost every game
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Speaker 4: tape of the run game. And so you guys aren't balking.
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Speaker 2: To anybody in our last minute and we really do
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Speaker 2: have about a minute here to do this. I saw
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Speaker 2: a list Gray Zabel top ten rookie of the year?
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Speaker 2: Are they that pleased with him? Has he been everything
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Speaker 2: that they'd hoped he would be?
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Speaker 3: Yes, they have?
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Speaker 4: And what's funny about the top Timwerky the talk now
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Speaker 4: there are Pro Football Focus gets a lot of attention
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Speaker 4: for offensive line ratings because you can't quantify offensive line
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Speaker 4: play otherwise it's about the only one out there, and
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Speaker 4: he rates really highly in that metric and Pro Football
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Speaker 4: Focuses rankings zero percent pressures in a lot of games.
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Speaker 4: So never before as a guard, any rookie of the
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Speaker 4: year type talking because of their noe. STA's the measure.
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Speaker 4: But now they are, and that's what people are goming onto.
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Speaker 4: But yes, you talk to the teammates. Charles Cross loves them,
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Speaker 4: was playing next to him. I've talked about that the
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Speaker 4: left tackle with the left guard and the coaches love him.
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Speaker 4: They how they talk about how he's not a rookie,
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Speaker 4: that he's poised. He talks trash to veterans. Yeah he's
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Speaker 4: No one's come out and told me this. He's more
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Speaker 4: than they thought they'd get. And that's saying something when
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Speaker 4: they had the highest drafted intier guard since Steve Hutchinson
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Speaker 4: in twenty twenty. Gray is Abel has been all that
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Speaker 4: and a bag of chips.
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Speaker 2: All right, Greg, Well things are busy, stay busy out.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't even know what country I'm going to
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Speaker 4: be in the next few days, and that is it
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Speaker 4: might be m in Toronto on the Sunday night.
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Speaker 2: And oh yeah, that's quite the turnaround. All right, Well,
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Speaker 2: wherever you are, we'll talk to you on Monday, all right,
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Speaker 2: Bryce Miller will take the ball for the Seattle Mariners.
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Speaker 2: It is amazing what postseason can do. Man. The Blue
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Speaker 2: Jays were sure they were cooked their fans anyway, not
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Speaker 2: the players, the fans when they were leaving Toronto. And
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Speaker 2: now two games later, it feels like the same old
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Speaker 2: people who were sure we were done after game one
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Speaker 2: against Detroit, and then even sure we were done after
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Speaker 2: game number four again in Detroit. They seem to be
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Speaker 2: feeling that we're cooked again because we lost two straight games.
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Speaker 2: And I think the same people, and I don't know
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Speaker 2: if they are the same people that are the ones
19:02
Speaker 2: that I was just talking about, but the same people
19:05
Speaker 2: that kind of ripped on Bryce Miller all season long.
19:10
Speaker 2: It kind of feels like they're thank god Bryce Miller's pitching,
19:13
Speaker 2: there's our one chance.
19:15
Speaker 3: Yeah.
19:16
Speaker 2: I mean what it does encapsulate is just a weird team.
19:19
Speaker 2: What a weird season. It's been fun, it's been for
19:23
Speaker 2: the most part, satisfying. But man, this is.
19:25
Speaker 5: A weird team and they play weird baseball. Yeah, they're
19:28
Speaker 5: just not very consistent. And yet the Spurts. I mean,
19:32
Speaker 5: if anything, if if you want to be the fan,
19:34
Speaker 5: and you get the fan however you want, if you
19:35
Speaker 5: want to be the one that rides the roller coaster,
19:38
Speaker 5: well boy, this is a wonderful roller coaster.
19:40
Speaker 2: Well, I mean they get they get you, by the way. Yeah,
19:46
Speaker 2: not all fun. It's not fun for everybody. Some people
19:48
Speaker 2: throw up on them.
19:49
Speaker 3: Yeah.
19:49
Speaker 5: Well maybe right, a less of a roller coaster because
19:53
Speaker 5: I'm going through the same up as ups and downs.
19:55
Speaker 5: I just don't get quite as high, are quite as
19:58
Speaker 5: low because you just don't know you you don't know
20:00
Speaker 5: what you're going to get. I wouldn't say that I
20:03
Speaker 5: would rather have them a higher floor and a lower ceiling,
20:09
Speaker 5: like just a more consistent team. But I would like
20:12
Speaker 5: them to be more consistently on what they're capable of. Right,
20:15
Speaker 5: you show me something, it was ed Chef used to. Basically,
20:19
Speaker 5: the reason he got on you so much is once
20:22
Speaker 5: you showed him what you're capable of, he wouldn't accept
20:25
Speaker 5: anything less, would not accept any not a tiny bit
20:30
Speaker 5: less most certainly not a big chunk less. And what
20:33
Speaker 5: we watched last couple of nights is a giant chunk
20:35
Speaker 5: less than what they're capable of. The approach, the intensity,
20:38
Speaker 5: the kind of energy, all of it has been less
20:41
Speaker 5: than what they're capable of. And yet it's to some
20:45
Speaker 5: degree it's kind of what makes them so high flying
20:48
Speaker 5: when they're rocking and rolling.
20:49
Speaker 2: Now more chunk, not less chunk. Well, I mean, Bucky
20:53
Speaker 2: loves the word approach. There's no doubt about it. We
20:56
Speaker 2: talk about a lot on More Show. Yeah, I agree
20:58
Speaker 2: with you. I believe you when you say, and I
21:01
Speaker 2: think last night, last two nights, I mean, we got him.
21:05
Speaker 2: We may have to point above the players because I
21:09
Speaker 2: don't know. The Toronto Blue Jays came out with a
21:12
Speaker 2: great game plan against George Kirby, and that as much
21:15
Speaker 2: as anything led to them smoking him in the third inning,
21:20
Speaker 2: and I just thought we came out every single batter
21:23
Speaker 2: not named Josh Naylor came out with a terrible approach
21:26
Speaker 2: last night against Max Scherzer. Maybe not to start the game,
21:30
Speaker 2: but once we fell behind, they just they just fed
21:33
Speaker 2: into the junk he wanted to throw us, and they
21:36
Speaker 2: just bought it hook line and sinker. So I don't
21:39
Speaker 2: know where it came from, but two stinkers. Maybe you
21:41
Speaker 2: turn it completely around, and maybe easygoing Bryce Miller is
21:46
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21:48
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Speaker 7: I don't normally go with an opposite pick of somebody
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22:40
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22:42
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22:51
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22:54
Speaker 7: I don't know that they could win at Georgia, but
22:56
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22:58
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23:01
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that it's seven and a half because
23:06
Speaker 2: of the Kugs. Yeah, I think so too last week,
23:08
Speaker 2: but that was classic trap game. I wish the Cougs.
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Speaker 3: Would have gotten That would be great.
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Speaker 2: It would have been great. Lane Kiffin would not have
23:17
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23:19
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23:26
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23:28
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what it seemed like, and that's what I
23:30
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Speaker 2: All right, So Ashley's gonna take the Ole Miss Rebels
23:35
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23:42
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25:56
Speaker 2: morning to you, Chuck Powell, former Mariner, Bucky Jacobson. Ashley
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Speaker 2: we spend last night. I mean, every single game, especially
26:48
Speaker 2: after a loss, you spend a little bit of time
26:50
Speaker 2: on managerial decisions, There's no doubt about that. I don't
26:54
Speaker 2: know if we've spent that much time over on it
26:57
Speaker 2: the last couple of days. Not as much as what
27:00
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people would have liked for
27:02
Speaker 2: us to. I just think that Game one, I mean,
27:05
Speaker 2: that's just on George Kirby and Game number two was
27:09
Speaker 2: just a complete total and Dan Wilson can be included
27:12
Speaker 2: in this smelly, lousy effort.
27:15
Speaker 3: Last night.
27:15
Speaker 2: I thought that was one of the worst games they've
27:17
Speaker 2: played all season long, and they picked a terrible time
27:19
Speaker 2: to do it. I'm not so sure. I am hung up, though, Bucky.
27:22
Speaker 2: I don't know about you about like some of the
27:24
Speaker 2: Dan Wilson decisions. None of these things are easy. I mean,
27:28
Speaker 2: you're trying to figure out when to pull a starting
27:31
Speaker 2: pitcher that you normally have trust and faith in, and
27:35
Speaker 2: then who's the right matchup to pull out of the
27:38
Speaker 2: bullpen in that given situation, and are they on their
27:41
Speaker 2: game that particular day. I don't know if I'm sitting
27:45
Speaker 2: here pulling my hair out over the Dan Wilson decisions.
27:48
Speaker 2: I mean, there's there are arguments against. There was an
27:52
Speaker 2: argument for taking out George Kirby earlier than he did
27:56
Speaker 2: in Game number three, certainly, but i'd I don't think
28:00
Speaker 2: that's what cost them the game. And then there were
28:03
Speaker 2: arguments for keeping Luis Castillo in yesterday and letting him
28:07
Speaker 2: work through it. Maybe he's earned it, but I would
28:10
Speaker 2: have done the same thing. It felt like an important
28:13
Speaker 2: moment in the game, and I felt like Gabe Spire
28:16
Speaker 2: had a better chance of getting us out of that
28:18
Speaker 2: basis loaded situation and not taking two to one and
28:21
Speaker 2: turning it into five to one or six to one.
28:24
Speaker 2: It felt to me like Gabe Spire was the right guy.
28:27
Speaker 2: And then he comes in and walks the first guy
28:29
Speaker 2: he faces. Shame on Gabe in that situation for me, anyway,
28:34
Speaker 2: not shame on Dan.
28:35
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with that too. I mean, I you know
28:39
Speaker 3: how I am.
28:39
Speaker 5: I don't have a huge opinion about a lot of things.
28:43
Speaker 5: If I don't feel like I have all the information. Well,
28:45
Speaker 5: this is one where you can get a lot of
28:47
Speaker 5: the information. But there's no way that we as fans
28:50
Speaker 5: are gonna have all of the information, right, I mean
28:53
Speaker 5: all of the information.
28:54
Speaker 3: Who's feeling what? How are they feeling?
28:56
Speaker 5: I mean we can say, okay, overview, your best bullpen
29:00
Speaker 5: arms were all rested, ready to rock and roll for
29:03
Speaker 5: yesterday's game. In today's game, they were going to have
29:05
Speaker 5: a quick hook. Yeah, it started to go south there.
29:08
Speaker 5: That was the game play.
29:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're not going to let this game get
29:12
Speaker 2: away from us like the previous game.
29:13
Speaker 3: And then it did get away. Yeah and Gabe.
29:15
Speaker 5: Yeah, And Gabe came in there and actually went after
29:18
Speaker 5: him the way that he has that has led to
29:20
Speaker 5: him being successful majority of the season. And then he
29:23
Speaker 5: throws back to back balls to walk that run in,
29:27
Speaker 5: both of which are kind of in that buffer zone.
29:29
Speaker 5: It wasn't like he missed poorly. Now you need to
29:32
Speaker 5: at a big league level, especially in the playoffs, when
29:34
Speaker 5: there's so much hanging in the balance. If there's nowhere
29:36
Speaker 5: to put a guy, then you got to challenge him.
29:40
Speaker 5: But I can understand how he might be a bit
29:43
Speaker 5: shell shocked, thinking, I really want to hit the outside
29:45
Speaker 5: corner here because I don't want to give up the
29:47
Speaker 5: home run like I've done a couple different times in
29:50
Speaker 5: this postseason, and walk off feeling absolutely dejected, and ultimately
29:55
Speaker 5: he'd missed walks in a run and then still stayed
29:58
Speaker 5: kind of, you know, at least even keel enough in
30:01
Speaker 5: his head that he got the next couple guys out
30:03
Speaker 5: and limited the damage. To me, it's you're coming in
30:06
Speaker 5: that situation you're hoping to get out of there one out,
30:10
Speaker 5: bases loaded. If you get out of there with just
30:12
Speaker 5: giving up one run, you kind of have done your job. Now,
30:14
Speaker 5: the way in which he gave up one run is
30:17
Speaker 5: the least competitive way in which you can do it.
30:19
Speaker 5: They didn't have to move the bat and he just
30:21
Speaker 5: basically gives him a run, and so it feels worse,
30:25
Speaker 5: and yet he kind of did do his job.
30:27
Speaker 3: So to me that I had a.
30:29
Speaker 2: Bigger problem with him keeping him in to face Springer,
30:32
Speaker 2: even though the splits on Springer suggests he's better against rieties.
30:36
Speaker 2: I just think Matt Brash is a better picture. And
30:39
Speaker 2: I don't think Matt Brash is a normal right hander.
30:43
Speaker 2: I mean, good luck trying to hit that sweeper, and
30:46
Speaker 2: he's been very efficient here in his last couple of starts.
30:49
Speaker 2: So I thought that was the bigger mistake, was leaving
30:53
Speaker 2: him into face Springer, and that allowed the score to
30:56
Speaker 2: go to fourd to one at that point.
30:57
Speaker 5: That to me is where if I do have a
31:00
Speaker 5: criticism of Dan Wilson from time to time throughout the
31:04
Speaker 5: course of the season, is I think they.
31:06
Speaker 3: Do majority analytics.
31:08
Speaker 5: I think they do majority of what the numbers say
31:10
Speaker 5: and less of what what do you just feel like,
31:12
Speaker 5: I mean, who do you just feel is a better
31:15
Speaker 5: pitcher to get out of get a really tough hitter
31:18
Speaker 5: out in an important part of the game, when you
31:21
Speaker 5: need to keep this thing at three to one, right,
31:23
Speaker 5: you want to keep it three to one. Obviously four
31:25
Speaker 5: to one's not a deal breaker, but five to one
31:28
Speaker 5: starts to feel deal break ish, and so to me
31:31
Speaker 5: it was the gut feel. I would have to think
31:34
Speaker 5: that he's sitting there thinking, who do I feel better about?
31:36
Speaker 5: Pitcher Wise Brash? Of course I feel better about Brash
31:40
Speaker 5: than Spire at this point in time.
31:41
Speaker 2: Inspire's fifth pitcher, second inning. He's been up yeah versus
31:46
Speaker 2: fresh Matt Brash out of the bolt and been mowing
31:49
Speaker 2: people down lately.
31:50
Speaker 5: I think that it probably is one where he's sitting
31:53
Speaker 5: there in his head, going this way and going that way,
31:55
Speaker 5: and going this way, and then just takes the analytics
31:57
Speaker 5: say that he's better again than he is against lefties,
32:01
Speaker 5: even though his guts probably telling him not that righty.
32:04
Speaker 2: And don't get me wrong, I mean, I'm sitting there
32:06
Speaker 2: playing armchair manager with everybody else, and I haven't approved
32:09
Speaker 2: of every I don't like everything that he has done
32:11
Speaker 2: to this point, I don't even understand why Carlos Vargas
32:14
Speaker 2: was in the game last night. I think you and
32:16
Speaker 2: I both had that reaction. Why Vargas right now, so
32:21
Speaker 2: we can go all the way back to the beginning
32:23
Speaker 2: of the entire playoff. I didn't like the way that
32:25
Speaker 2: he set the rotation to start with. So, I mean,
32:28
Speaker 2: there are things to certainly analyze and to critique, and
32:31
Speaker 2: everybody's entitled to their opinion and to play armchair manager.
32:35
Speaker 2: It's one of the fun things about being a baseball
32:37
Speaker 2: fan and in our situation of baseball analysts. But I
32:42
Speaker 2: just I don't think we've lost the last two games
32:45
Speaker 2: because of Dan wilson decisions. If anything, we lost last
32:49
Speaker 2: night's game if you want to place any blame on
32:52
Speaker 2: Dan Wilson organizationally, I just thought we had a way
32:55
Speaker 2: worse game plan for attacking Max Schurzer than they've had
32:59
Speaker 2: attack our pitchers the last two days.
33:01
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't.
33:02
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, everybody gets to do what they want
33:05
Speaker 5: to do and play armchair manager as much as they want.
33:08
Speaker 5: It's just that when it gets to the point of that,
33:10
Speaker 5: you would make a different decision and then it would
33:13
Speaker 5: for sure work out like that. When it comes to
33:15
Speaker 5: the Vargas one, we both had the thought of, well,
33:17
Speaker 5: what is Bizarro up for if Vargas is coming in now?
33:21
Speaker 5: But really, if you think about it, you look just
33:24
Speaker 5: a layer deeper. It's because he was wanting to have
33:26
Speaker 5: Bizardo go against the top of the lineup.
33:29
Speaker 3: He was wanting him to.
33:30
Speaker 5: Do the guy trying to get vlad Guerrero out instead
33:33
Speaker 5: of maybe having to have him go out there for
33:35
Speaker 5: two different innings. But I mean, I think when you
33:37
Speaker 5: talk about the game plan side of things, I don't
33:39
Speaker 5: think it's that they didn't have a game plan probably
33:42
Speaker 5: set up for him because you heard Josh Naylor talk
33:44
Speaker 5: earlier about what he was doing as if he had
33:47
Speaker 5: a game did, as if he did what they thought
33:50
Speaker 5: they were going to do. To me, I put way
33:52
Speaker 5: more blame on the players. That's just the way that
33:54
Speaker 5: it is. As a former player, I never one time
33:58
Speaker 5: struck out and walk back to the manager or the
34:00
Speaker 5: hitting coach go, what'd you tell.
34:02
Speaker 2: Me that I should have been hitting sixth?
34:03
Speaker 3: And you know it, you just totally screwed me over.
34:07
Speaker 5: I mean, the swing decisions and then the lack of
34:10
Speaker 5: consistency of barrel and balls up when you do get
34:12
Speaker 5: a mistake?
34:13
Speaker 3: Is what is cost?
34:14
Speaker 5: What allowed max schers are to go out there and
34:17
Speaker 5: go five and two thirds Jennings it was he would
34:20
Speaker 5: throw a pitch for you to hit and then hope
34:22
Speaker 5: that you wouldn't crush it. Well, you would hit the gap,
34:24
Speaker 5: you wouldn't start a rally, and we didn't, and then
34:27
Speaker 5: he gots to then nibble and do what a veteran
34:30
Speaker 5: pitcher knows how to do. And so to me, I
34:32
Speaker 5: don't know for sure if it's that anybody in that
34:35
Speaker 5: clubhouse is like, man, we had a really poor game time.
34:37
Speaker 5: We were instructed to do things that obviously didn't work out.
34:41
Speaker 5: I think it's just that the players didn't go out
34:43
Speaker 5: and execute. That's the last two games they haven't executed.
34:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I put it on the players as well.
34:48
Speaker 2: And that and last night particularly, I think game number
34:51
Speaker 2: three was George got rocked and that's why we lost
34:55
Speaker 2: last night. That was just lousy. That was just a
34:58
Speaker 2: bad game by really the entire roster. Josh Naylor hit well,
35:03
Speaker 2: JP defended well, and Matt Brash did a nice job
35:06
Speaker 2: in his role coming out of the bullpen. And that
35:08
Speaker 2: is about it. That's about the end of my compliments
35:12
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35:15
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