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- 0:00Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, does did he need a diaper?
- 0:10Speaker 1: Shawncomb's begging for an emergency bathroom break in court? And
- 0:15Speaker 1: tonight our authorities finally believing a man caught on tape
- 0:18Speaker 1: years ago claiming to be Shawn Combe's sex slave. We
- 0:23Speaker 1: have the tape, plus Austin Powers, Michael Jordan HBO and
- 0:30Speaker 1: a six pack. What does any of that have to
- 0:33Speaker 1: do with Shawncombe's multi count federal indictment? This as a
- 0:39Speaker 1: victim vanishes, I'm Nancy Grece, this is Crime Stories. Thank
- 0:43Speaker 1: you for being with us?
- 0:45Speaker 2: Did he on trial?
- 0:47Speaker 3: Sex trafficking, racketeering and the threat of life behind bars?
- 0:51Speaker 3: Jury selection wraps this week in one of the biggest
- 0:54Speaker 3: celebrity cases of the decade.
- 0:58Speaker 1: Shawnclme's demanding an emergency bathroom break in court to the judge.
- 1:02Speaker 4: Listen Sean Diddy.
- 1:03Speaker 3: Comb's sex trafficking trial kicks off with jury selection. Combs
- 1:07Speaker 3: listens intently as potential jurors are questioned after filling out
- 1:10Speaker 3: their written questionnaire. Mogul nods and shakes his head as
- 1:13Speaker 3: jurors talk about their experiences with drug addiction, sexual assault,
- 1:17Speaker 3: and physical violence after returning from a requested bathroom break.
- 1:21Speaker 3: Combs apologizes to Judge Subermanian. I'm sorry, your honor, I'm
- 1:25Speaker 3: a little nervous today.
- 1:27Speaker 4: Straight out to you.
- 1:27Speaker 1: Veteran trial lawyer Eric Fattus joining us from Varner Fattest
- 1:32Speaker 1: elite legal former felony prosecutor, Eric, thank you for being
- 1:37Speaker 1: with us. Do you think Diddy's reman just clenched a
- 1:40Speaker 1: little bit when he had to ask her that emergency
- 1:43Speaker 1: bathroom break? Was it all just too much for him
- 1:46Speaker 1: when he finally came into courtroom having to answer up
- 1:50Speaker 1: to all the claims made against him. I've never had
- 1:54Speaker 1: a defendant actually leave mid jury selection for an emergency
- 1:59Speaker 1: bathroom break.
- 2:00Speaker 5: Well, I mean, when I get really nervous, sometimes I
- 2:01Speaker 5: have to go to It's it's a common thing in
- 2:03Speaker 5: the court room. They're going to be there for hours
- 2:05Speaker 5: upon hours, and it is a tense situation.
- 2:09Speaker 1: You know.
- 2:09Speaker 5: Sometimes it's the calling of nature. Sometimes it's to get
- 2:13Speaker 5: a break, to get a breather from what's going on.
- 2:16Speaker 5: It's hard to say exactly did he had to do that,
- 2:19Speaker 5: but not uncommon under these circumstances he is facing, you know,
- 2:23Speaker 5: his fate, his future is on the line here.
- 2:26Speaker 1: Okay, you know, I'm sure you're not going to tell
- 2:28Speaker 1: me the truth. Let's go out to Robert Crispin joining
- 2:31Speaker 1: me Private Eye with Crispin Special Investigations, but former Federal
- 2:36Speaker 1: Task Force for the US Department of Justice DEA Miami
- 2:39Speaker 1: Field Division. It goes on and on. Former homicide investigator Crispin,
- 2:45Speaker 1: come on, hey too, want to look at that jury
- 2:47Speaker 1: panel and said I got to go, and I got
- 2:49Speaker 1: to go right now.
- 2:50Speaker 6: Yeah, Nancy, the rubber has hit the road, and Diddy
- 2:53Speaker 6: is starting to learn that his faith is about to
- 2:57Speaker 6: be tied up in those jurors. It's a completely different
- 3:01Speaker 6: atmosphere inside a federal courtroom. It's not your jail cell.
- 3:04Speaker 6: It's not the laxed atmosphere sitting and laughing and talking
- 3:08Speaker 6: about your case with your lawyers. It's not reading your
- 3:10Speaker 6: case in the newspaper. It's the real deal and it's
- 3:14Speaker 6: no bs. It's going down.
- 3:16Speaker 1: This judge is very no nonsense. Joining me outside the courthouse.
- 3:20Speaker 1: Investigative reporter Lauren Colin, co host Primetime Crime on YouTube. Lauren,
- 3:25Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. Tell me about where
- 3:28Speaker 1: we are in jury selection, how it's playing out in
- 3:32Speaker 1: the courtroom.
- 3:33Speaker 4: Tell me about the jury panel, let's.
- 3:34Speaker 1: Start with that.
- 3:35Speaker 7: Yes, Nancy, Well, normally, as you know, jury selection can
- 3:38Speaker 7: be kind of boring, but not for Sean Colmes. It's
- 3:42Speaker 7: turning out to be very colorful, colorful.
- 3:44Speaker 1: Excuse me.
- 3:45Speaker 4: Now, on May seventh.
- 3:47Speaker 7: They were able to get their forty five full of jurors,
- 3:50Speaker 7: and they will have their strikes on Friday, May ninth,
- 3:53Speaker 7: where the defense will get ten strikes and the prosecution
- 3:57Speaker 7: will get their six strikes and then they'll narrow jurors
- 4:00Speaker 7: down to twelve and six alternates.
- 4:02Speaker 4: Now, as far as jurors go.
- 4:04Speaker 7: Nancy, it's been so intriguing. We have, insofar a graphic designer,
- 4:10Speaker 7: a former attorney who interned at the Brooklyn DIA's office
- 4:14Speaker 7: in the domestic violence unit. We also have a un
- 4:18Speaker 7: employee who actually works with counter terrorism, and somehow they
- 4:22Speaker 7: made it through and it actually seemed like these people
- 4:26Speaker 7: want to be here in a way, the way they're
- 4:27Speaker 7: downplaying certain things. Now, as far as certain potential jurors
- 4:31Speaker 7: who are out, we have an HBO employee who didn't
- 4:35Speaker 7: work directly on the fall of Ditty, but the defense
- 4:38Speaker 7: wasn't taking any chances. We have someone who said wealthy
- 4:41Speaker 7: people can get away with more. They can buy their
- 4:43Speaker 7: way out.
- 4:43Speaker 4: Of the law.
- 4:44Speaker 7: And we also have a woman who claimed that she
- 4:47Speaker 7: fainted when she heard the term BJ.
- 4:50Speaker 1: When she heard the term BJ, she feigned, Okay, yeah,
- 4:54Speaker 1: she's got to go. Not only that, there was one
- 4:57Speaker 1: guy doom scrolling who was just like looking through his phone,
- 5:04Speaker 1: and at least one of those scrolling adventures he took
- 5:08Speaker 1: popped up a Diddy article. He's out. We had one
- 5:12Speaker 1: guy that said he couldn't go a full day without
- 5:15Speaker 1: smoking weed, he's gone. We had one person that was
- 5:18Speaker 1: so tired and exhausted, stating he stayed up all night
- 5:22Speaker 1: binging on Star Wars. He's gone. You don't want anybody
- 5:29Speaker 1: falling asleep. Why don't you want somebody falling asleep? Because
- 5:34Speaker 1: that is grounds for a miss trial. If one juror
- 5:38Speaker 1: is not paying attention and missus testimony, it's over and correction.
- 5:44Speaker 1: I have never found for a die or a jury
- 5:46Speaker 1: selection to be boring ever. In fact, that's always been
- 5:49Speaker 1: one of my favorite parts of the trial. So what
- 5:52Speaker 1: more do we know about jury selection?
- 5:54Speaker 4: Listen, one man is dismissed because he attended Shancombs High.
- 5:57Speaker 8: School, albe At thirty years later, another as a producer
- 6:01Speaker 8: for HBO who did not work on their Didty documentary,
- 6:04Speaker 8: but admits to several water cooler talks with coworkers who did.
- 6:08Speaker 8: A marketing director at publisher Simon and Schuster is also
- 6:11Speaker 8: dismissed due to her work on singer L. B. Schuer's
- 6:14Speaker 8: upcoming memoir. A fourth issue that brings last for many
- 6:18Speaker 8: in the courtroom is a potential jurors employment at the MDC.
- 6:22Speaker 1: That HBO employee may not have worked directly on the
- 6:28Speaker 1: HBO documentary The Fall of Ditty, but I imagine they
- 6:33Speaker 1: know what was in the outtakes, what was left on
- 6:36Speaker 1: the editing floor, all the background. The HBO employee admits
- 6:41Speaker 1: to water cooler discussions of the documentary and of Ditty.
- 6:45Speaker 1: Speaking of the HBO documentary that has the defense shaking
- 6:50Speaker 1: in its boose, listen his knots on her head.
- 6:53Speaker 4: It was horrific, he says. Sometimes you just got that
- 6:55Speaker 4: these holes know who the boss is. I've seen them
- 6:57Speaker 4: both holding on, fighting for my life. He said, I'm
- 7:01Speaker 4: puffed aady, I'll eat your face off.
- 7:04Speaker 9: I always believe that I was the only victim.
- 7:07Speaker 1: Wow, no wonder the defense doesn't want that HBO employee.
- 7:11Speaker 1: That's my our friends, I have an investigation discovery. Hey
- 7:14Speaker 1: straight out to Lynn Shaw joining me, founder director Lynn's Warriors,
- 7:17Speaker 1: committed to ending human trafficking and sexploitation of women and girls.
- 7:24Speaker 1: Did you hear this, okay quote from Sean Combs.
- 7:29Speaker 4: He says, sometimes you just got.
- 7:31Speaker 1: To let these hoes know who the boss is.
- 7:34Speaker 10: Yeah, well, you know what, Sometimes a dirty Diddy. I
- 7:36Speaker 10: wish Nancy I could get in that courtroom and just
- 7:39Speaker 10: stare him down. I wish we could fill the courtroom
- 7:43Speaker 10: with all of his alleged victims and women and also
- 7:46Speaker 10: men here in New York, My fellow New Yorkers, I
- 7:48Speaker 10: have full confidence in them to stare him down. Remember
- 7:52Speaker 10: numbers power. We have to stare him down. This is
- 7:56Speaker 10: kind of the rallying cry I'm hearing here on the
- 7:58Speaker 10: streets of New York with people I know the entertainment
- 8:00Speaker 10: not only music business, overall entertainment business, including Broadway and television.
- 8:05Speaker 10: Everybody's waiting on this one. He's talking like this, he's
- 8:09Speaker 10: making apologies about Cassie. Dirty Diddy is going down. Nobody's
- 8:14Speaker 10: going to fall for his act anymore.
- 8:17Speaker 1: Sometimes you just got to let these hoes know who
- 8:20Speaker 1: the boss is. Well, she was certainly on the other
- 8:22Speaker 1: foot now in that courtroom, and there's more no wonder
- 8:26Speaker 1: they want that HBO employee off the jury.
- 8:29Speaker 4: I am absolutely nervous sharing what I've seen.
- 8:36Speaker 1: I can no longer just remain silent.
- 8:39Speaker 4: This is where I'm.
- 8:40Speaker 1: Supposed to be. Much of what we're hearing is about
- 8:45Speaker 1: the Cassie Ventira tape, and there's a lot of speculation
- 8:48Speaker 1: as to if and how that's going to come into evidence.
- 8:50Speaker 1: That was where our friends had investigation discovery. Right now,
- 8:54Speaker 1: jury selection going down, and the jury will be complete
- 8:58Speaker 1: at any minute. We believe the evidence will begin pouring
- 9:02Speaker 1: from the witness stand now. I don't think it's going
- 9:04Speaker 1: to be that easy, because it never is. Straight out
- 9:08Speaker 1: to Sidney Sumner joining US Crime Online dot Com Crime
- 9:11Speaker 1: Stories investigative reporter, Sidney, thank you for being with us.
- 9:14Speaker 1: There have been many people already thrown off the jury. Now,
- 9:19Speaker 1: I'm not talking about the Pettit jury a derivation of
- 9:22Speaker 1: petite or small. The Pettit jury is the jury of
- 9:25Speaker 1: twelve plus alternates, and ps I don't think six alternates
- 9:28Speaker 1: have a nut are enough in high profile cases, and
- 9:32Speaker 1: really any case I usually get between four, six to
- 9:36Speaker 1: eight alternates. I mean, look what happened is Scott Peterson.
- 9:39Speaker 1: For Pete's sake, I think they ended up using nearly
- 9:42Speaker 1: every alternate they had. That said, we're trying to get
- 9:45Speaker 1: a petit jury out of a big panel. Interesting and
- 9:50Speaker 1: this was true when I prosecuted an inner city Atlanta
- 9:52Speaker 1: Sidney Sumner. The defense has more strikes than the state.
- 9:58Speaker 1: The defense has ten strikes, which is crucial when you're
- 10:02Speaker 1: narrowing down a panel of forty five to sixty people
- 10:05Speaker 1: to just twelve. The defense has ten strikes, ten choices,
- 10:11Speaker 1: and they don't have to explain it why they throw
- 10:13Speaker 1: somebody off the jury. The state has about half that many,
- 10:18Speaker 1: at six strikes Sidney Sumner.
- 10:21Speaker 11: That's correct in this case, Nancy as well. The Feds
- 10:24Speaker 11: will only get to strike six while the defense gets ten.
- 10:27Speaker 11: That still leads us with twenty nine potential jurors out
- 10:31Speaker 11: of those forty five removing those sixteen. So from there
- 10:36Speaker 11: it'll be interesting to see who is removed after that.
- 10:40Speaker 11: But we know that a lot of these jurors are
- 10:43Speaker 11: having problems with the Cassie video. Everybody has seen it,
- 10:48Speaker 11: and everybody has formed an opinion on it. This jury
- 10:51Speaker 11: selection is very interesting because it's unlikely that anyone in
- 10:56Speaker 11: that courtroom doesn't at least have an idea of who
- 10:59Speaker 11: Diddy is, whether or not they're familiar with his charges.
- 11:03Speaker 11: So this has become a huge hurdle for everyone in
- 11:06Speaker 11: the courtroom to jump over.
- 11:07Speaker 4: You know, you're so right.
- 11:09Speaker 1: The Cassie video Cassie Ventura, who was testifying under her
- 11:13Speaker 1: own name. There are other alleged victims testifying under pseudonyms,
- 11:17Speaker 1: like Jane Doe, and we think tonight that one of
- 11:20Speaker 1: those victims has disappeared. The state stating in court that
- 11:25Speaker 1: they have not been able to reach the victim's lawyer.
- 11:28Speaker 1: Now it's one thing not to be able to find
- 11:30Speaker 1: the witness, but you can't find the lawyer. The lawyer
- 11:33Speaker 1: has gone deafcom for as well. That's not good for
- 11:36Speaker 1: the state. But I want to go forward with jury
- 11:40Speaker 1: selection now this as an alleged sex slave emerges. And remember,
- 11:48Speaker 1: the state and the defense can amend or add to
- 11:52Speaker 1: their witness list if there are newly discovered witnesses. Will
- 11:58Speaker 1: Jonathan Odie be a corroborating witness listen?
- 12:02Speaker 12: I had sex with Cassie and Sean basically he would
- 12:07Speaker 12: he would masturbate and tell him what to do with Cassie.
- 12:09Speaker 12: I had like fifteen encounters.
- 12:11Speaker 13: And I heard lots of business because what they would
- 12:14Speaker 13: do is Sean talks a lot on the on the
- 12:17Speaker 13: phone and on the TV was feeding stuff and I'll
- 12:20Speaker 13: be in there. I was like a sex sleeve.
- 12:22Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, gross, that is Jonathan Odie Diddy's sex slave.
- 12:29Speaker 1: And this video was years ago when he was arrested
- 12:33Speaker 1: on some other count.
- 12:34Speaker 4: There he is.
- 12:35Speaker 1: And again, who do you think is going to be
- 12:37Speaker 1: a witness? Nuns and priests and vergence know somebody like
- 12:40Speaker 1: Jonathan Odie? Who else is hanging around? Sean comes now,
- 12:43Speaker 1: I want to play what you just heard one more time. Listen.
- 12:48Speaker 13: I had sex.
- 12:49Speaker 12: With Cassie and Sean basically he would he would masturbate
- 12:53Speaker 12: and tell her what to do with Cassie. I had
- 12:55Speaker 12: like fifteen encounters and I heard lots.
- 12:58Speaker 13: Of business because what they would do is Sean talks
- 13:01Speaker 13: a lot on the on the phone and on the
- 13:03Speaker 13: TV with feeding up and I'll be in there.
- 13:06Speaker 5: I was like a SI.
- 13:07Speaker 4: Sleep Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
- 13:20Speaker 1: For now and it'sycho analyst doctor Bethany Marshall joining us
- 13:23Speaker 1: out of la, author of deal Breakers. You can see
- 13:26Speaker 1: her now on peacock at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com.
- 13:30Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany, let's break this down. When you were taking English,
- 13:34Speaker 1: did the teacher ever separate the sentence on the blackboard
- 13:39Speaker 1: and you know, diagram the sentence. Here's the verb, Here
- 13:42Speaker 1: is the adverb, here is the adjective, here's the subject.
- 13:46Speaker 4: Blah blah blah, okay.
- 13:48Speaker 1: I had sex with Cassie and Sean. Basically, hey, Sean
- 13:53Speaker 1: would masturbate and tell me what to do with Cassie.
- 13:56Speaker 1: No wonder she's running down the hall trying to get away.
- 13:59Speaker 1: I have like fifteen encounters. I heard a lot of
- 14:02Speaker 1: business because Sean would talk on the phone with it
- 14:06Speaker 1: on the TV with speakers while I was being quote
- 14:10Speaker 1: like a sex slave.
- 14:11Speaker 4: Help me out, doctor Bethany.
- 14:13Speaker 9: You know, it reminds me of a clinical case of
- 14:15Speaker 9: a colleague where there was this sociopath sex offender who
- 14:20Speaker 9: would put his wife in the bathroom, defecate on her,
- 14:25Speaker 9: tell her to stay lying on the floor while he
- 14:27Speaker 9: went out and dated other women. And that clinical case
- 14:30Speaker 9: is important because It takes us inside the mind of
- 14:34Speaker 9: an alleged offender, and in this case P Diddy is
- 14:38Speaker 9: doing business, puffing himself up, putting himself in a position
- 14:42Speaker 9: of power while he debases Cassie. Those are very, very
- 14:47Speaker 9: common psychodynamics in a case like this. You know, Nancy,
- 14:51Speaker 9: that explosive need to go.
- 14:53Speaker 4: To the bathroom.
- 14:54Speaker 9: That tells me that he went into fight or flight,
- 14:57Speaker 9: meaning he had a sudden need to evacuate his bowels.
- 15:00Speaker 9: That means he was scared. I wondered, is this the
- 15:03Speaker 9: first time in his life? P Diddy is actually scared.
- 15:08Speaker 9: We juxtaposed that to having this sex slave. You know,
- 15:12Speaker 9: these defendants tend to they thrive when they're in positions
- 15:15Speaker 9: of power. They fall apart when they have to answer
- 15:20Speaker 9: for their offenses. Remember Michael Jackson where he got the
- 15:25Speaker 9: spider bit and he came to court with his slippers
- 15:28Speaker 9: and his pajama pajamas. He really fell apart under pressure.
- 15:33Speaker 12: I had settlement with Sean Okay, and he belongs to
- 15:36Speaker 12: that agenda. That's why he's so famous in animal contracts.
- 15:40Speaker 13: This season twoes my settlement put me in a box.
- 15:44Speaker 12: Based on I couldn't talk gozalas Will be sued, so
- 15:48Speaker 12: I let it be. But they've been following me and
- 15:51Speaker 12: they've had small charcas, had the FBI on me. That said,
- 15:57Speaker 12: other interpret other agencies looking at me fine on the
- 16:00Speaker 12: og because they want to send me up as an
- 16:02Speaker 12: extortioness like if O story sharp on one now.
- 16:07Speaker 1: At the time when Odie was saying all of this
- 16:10Speaker 1: back in twenty eighteen on tape, everyone discounted it Shawn
- 16:15Speaker 1: Combs sex slave, making Odie participate in for sex acts
- 16:19Speaker 1: with Cassie Ventura.
- 16:21Speaker 4: Somehow Mark Garraghos gets in the mix.
- 16:24Speaker 1: You hear Odi stating very plainly that he had a
- 16:28Speaker 1: quote settlement with Sean Combs that if he talked about
- 16:33Speaker 1: what happened with Cassie and comes, he would be sued.
- 16:36Speaker 4: It's called an.
- 16:37Speaker 1: NDA non disclosure agreement, and that Mark Geragos was on
- 16:43Speaker 1: to him. Now suddenly it's all fitting together. Sidney Sumner
- 16:50Speaker 1: explain why this suddenly may corroborate what the current state's
- 16:56Speaker 1: witnesses are saying.
- 16:57Speaker 11: So, Nancy, we've known about John than Odie's claims since
- 17:02Speaker 11: the beginning of this case. Since all of this information
- 17:06Speaker 11: about Diddy's sexual deviance and raping behavior came to the
- 17:11Speaker 11: public eye with Caffy's lawsuit. But yes, this happened back
- 17:15Speaker 11: in twenty eighteen, and this police interrogation is full of
- 17:20Speaker 11: odd conspiracy theories. The Illuminati gets brought up several times,
- 17:25Speaker 11: so it didn't really feel like Odie's claims were very credible.
- 17:28Speaker 11: But now we have a photo of that NBA that
- 17:32Speaker 11: he claims that he signed, so we now have proof
- 17:36Speaker 11: that that document that he references in that interrogation does
- 17:40Speaker 11: in fact exist. So it seems like Odie had some
- 17:44Speaker 11: kind of secret about Combs that he thought was so
- 17:47Speaker 11: important that he paid this former Horn star five million
- 17:53Speaker 11: dollars for his silence.
- 17:54Speaker 4: You know, City Center.
- 17:55Speaker 1: Every time I ask you a question, it's like opening
- 17:57Speaker 1: out one of those mystery boxes or a grab bag.
- 18:00Speaker 1: I get so much more than I expected. Did you
- 18:02Speaker 1: just say, Odie, Odie, the guy we were just watching
- 18:05Speaker 1: in the hospital gown talking about being a sex life,
- 18:08Speaker 1: got a five million dollar settlement from yeah, him, from
- 18:12Speaker 1: Combs and as a matter of fact, putting down eight
- 18:14Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars on a home.
- 18:16Speaker 11: Yes, so that information is coming from Odie's ex wife.
- 18:20Speaker 11: So she claimed that he met Combs at a party
- 18:23Speaker 11: at his Miami Star Island home, and they struck some
- 18:28Speaker 11: sort of relationship which actually strained their marriage and led
- 18:32Speaker 11: to their divorce. Now immediately herfter that divorce, Odie, who
- 18:39Speaker 11: had claimed that his net worth was in the negatives
- 18:42Speaker 11: at the time of their divorce, suddenly purchases a ton
- 18:46Speaker 11: of property eight hundred thousand dollars worth and it wasn't mortgaged.
- 18:51Speaker 11: It was all in cash. So she has no idea
- 18:54Speaker 11: where he came up with that money. And believe maybe
- 18:58Speaker 11: he's telling the truth. Maybe he did at five million
- 19:00Speaker 11: dollars from Sean Coms.
- 19:02Speaker 1: And of course Mark Giragos is an incredible lawyer, about
- 19:05Speaker 1: as usual. He's into it up to here, he's up
- 19:08Speaker 1: to his Let me just say ears and alligators, because
- 19:14Speaker 1: you see Odie is talking about Giragos way back when
- 19:18Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, and now Giaghos is in the crosshairs
- 19:23Speaker 1: of the judge.
- 19:24Speaker 3: Listen prosecutor's point to one of Garogos's comments, in particular
- 19:29Speaker 3: calling their team a six pack of white women. Judge
- 19:32Speaker 3: Supermanian was shocked by the quip, calling it outrageous. Garrogos's
- 19:37Speaker 3: daughter Tenny pushback, saying her father merely made an observation
- 19:41Speaker 3: considering her client feels targeted for his race. The judge
- 19:44Speaker 3: said the comments would not be tolerated in any court
- 19:47Speaker 3: from any lawyer all across the nation.
- 19:50Speaker 1: Subermanian is not putting up with that technical legal term.
- 19:54Speaker 1: B s straight out to Lauren Collin joining us at
- 19:57Speaker 1: the courthouse. What did Geragos do now?
- 20:00Speaker 7: Well, Nancy Georgos on his podcast stated that the prosecution
- 20:04Speaker 7: was a six pack of white women. Now that's definitely
- 20:08Speaker 7: a prejudicial statement. The prosecution submitted this letter to the judge,
- 20:12Speaker 7: as you said, and Geragos is technically not an advisor
- 20:16Speaker 7: to the defense. He does represent Diddy's mother from what
- 20:20Speaker 7: I understand, but he knows better than this, and as
- 20:23Speaker 7: you said, he's an amazing lawyer, so he needs to
- 20:26Speaker 7: step back a bit.
- 20:27Speaker 4: Okay.
- 20:27Speaker 1: Another issue though, right there, Eric Fattis, is Geragos is
- 20:32Speaker 1: claiming that he's not on the legal team officially. Okay,
- 20:37Speaker 1: See the judge Subramanian doesn't like that, And I'll tell
- 20:39Speaker 1: you why. Neither's a state it's not. I guess Gearaghos
- 20:43Speaker 1: is just that if you're not on officially on the
- 20:46Speaker 1: defense team, you are not subject to the orders of
- 20:49Speaker 1: the directors of the judge. Because you're not on the
- 20:52Speaker 1: defense team, you can say and do anything you want to.
- 20:54Speaker 1: Even with Harvey Levin on TMZ on that podcast, I
- 20:57Speaker 1: was just showing you the Two Angry Men podcasts. He
- 21:00Speaker 1: can say whatever he wants to because he's not on
- 21:03Speaker 1: the team.
- 21:04Speaker 4: That's why. You know what it's like being a little pregnant.
- 21:09Speaker 1: That's not possible, right, So is he on the team
- 21:12Speaker 1: or is he not on the team. That's the issue
- 21:15Speaker 1: with Garygos right now?
- 21:16Speaker 5: Yeah, Nancy, And you know, on top of that, Garrigos
- 21:19Speaker 5: has a First Amendment right. He can say what he wants.
- 21:21Speaker 5: And this isn't the first time an alleged racial bias
- 21:24Speaker 5: has been brought up by the defense. They talked about
- 21:27Speaker 5: did he being prosecuted under what's called the Man Act,
- 21:30Speaker 5: which infamously was used to prosecute black boxer Jack Johnson
- 21:34Speaker 5: in nineteen thirteen for having romantic relations with a white woman.
- 21:37Speaker 1: And so fast, as fast as you're digging really deep,
- 21:41Speaker 1: if you're going back to a case in nineteen thirteen,
- 21:44Speaker 1: can I just drag you up to twenty twenty five
- 21:47Speaker 1: and address what's happening in court right now?
- 21:49Speaker 5: I hear you, and my understanding is that Gargos has
- 21:52Speaker 5: a relative or a daughter who might be associated with
- 21:54Speaker 5: the case who's a lawyer. But yeah, so Garrigos is
- 21:57Speaker 5: kind of like is he or isn't he in terms
- 21:59Speaker 5: of being involved in the case, And if he's not
- 22:02Speaker 5: technically an attorney of record, then who cares what the
- 22:06Speaker 5: judge says? He can kind of say what he wants.
- 22:08Speaker 2: Sean Diddy. Combe's defense lawyers insist he isn't a rapist
- 22:12Speaker 2: but a swinger. Attorney Mark Agnefilo tells the court Comb
- 22:16Speaker 2: simply engaged in a swinger lifestyle, seeing nothing wrong with
- 22:19Speaker 2: his behavior.
- 22:20Speaker 14: As potential jurors are questioned about their ability to maintain impartiality,
- 22:25Speaker 14: an obstacle quickly rears its head the video of Comb's
- 22:28Speaker 14: attacking Cassie. Numerous potential jurors have seen the video and
- 22:32Speaker 14: formed opinions on it. Of those who have watched it,
- 22:35Speaker 14: only a few were able to say they did not
- 22:37Speaker 14: think it would affect their impartiality.
- 22:39Speaker 2: While some who have seen the Cassie video are allowed
- 22:42Speaker 2: to stay, several jurors are dismissed for the opinions they
- 22:46Speaker 2: formed from it. One juror called the video damning evidence,
- 22:49Speaker 2: while another said it would be hard to get new
- 22:51Speaker 2: evidence against the video. Another juror was dismissed for his
- 22:55Speaker 2: belief the rap mogul could quote by his way out
- 22:58Speaker 2: of jail.
- 22:58Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of people.
- 23:00Speaker 1: I mean, if you watch CNN or any major news
- 23:04Speaker 1: outlet which has followed up with CNN's video, you've seen
- 23:08Speaker 1: the Cassie video. What's so disturbing.
- 23:10Speaker 4: Let's take a look.
- 23:12Speaker 1: Here comes Cassie and this from our friends at CNN,
- 23:15Speaker 1: trying to get away according to reports, from a freakoff.
- 23:17Speaker 4: Uh, oh, not so fast, Cassie.
- 23:20Speaker 1: Now, according to coms, this is all part of his
- 23:22Speaker 1: quote voluntary swow swinger lifestyle. Ooh, stomping off with all
- 23:29Speaker 1: Cassie stuff. Oh, she will have to go back to
- 23:31Speaker 1: the freak off. Oh it's not over yet. Here he's
- 23:34Speaker 1: having a little fit. Oh there goes a two thousand
- 23:36Speaker 1: dollars base. This is the video we're talking about. Joining
- 23:40Speaker 1: us at the courthouse, Lauren Colin. Some jurors are having
- 23:44Speaker 1: a hard time with the Cassie video, and some of
- 23:46Speaker 1: them have already been released from the jury pool.
- 23:49Speaker 7: Explain, Yes, some jurors who saw the video and said
- 23:52Speaker 7: things like, well, he's guilty of domestic abuse in that video.
- 23:56Speaker 7: They were immediately dismissed. But Nancy, I want to point
- 23:59Speaker 7: out that the defence also had an expert testify a
- 24:02Speaker 7: few weeks back during the pre trial hearings that that
- 24:05Speaker 7: video was actually sped up.
- 24:08Speaker 1: Don't care because it can be unsped up for the jury.
- 24:13Speaker 1: But thank you for pointing out that argument by the
- 24:15Speaker 1: defensive that's all they've got. Okay, they're up, you know,
- 24:19Speaker 1: the create without a paddle. But that said, we've heard
- 24:23Speaker 1: a lot of conflicting statements to Sidney Sumner following up
- 24:26Speaker 1: on what Lauren.
- 24:27Speaker 4: Collin said, She's absolutely right.
- 24:28Speaker 1: By the way, again I called her being right again,
- 24:31Speaker 1: Sidney Sumner, there have been reports to states not introducing
- 24:35Speaker 1: the Cassie video. I find that hard to believe. I
- 24:37Speaker 1: think they're not introducing the CNN version, but that they
- 24:41Speaker 1: will introduce the video in full or portions thereof.
- 24:46Speaker 11: What about it, Sidney, Yes, Nancy, we've heard conflicting reports
- 24:49Speaker 11: on this. So before we already knew that the prosecution
- 24:53Speaker 11: was not planning to introduce the CNN version of the video.
- 24:57Speaker 11: That is correct. They were going to play back a
- 24:59Speaker 11: ver that was recorded on an iPhone, So maybe maybe
- 25:05Speaker 11: this is how CNN obtained the recording in the first place.
- 25:08Speaker 11: So you're seeing it play back on a computer screen
- 25:11Speaker 11: and somebody is recording that video on an iPhone, so
- 25:14Speaker 11: it's very clear that it's not edited in any way,
- 25:18Speaker 11: shape or form. All of the potential jurors, many of
- 25:21Speaker 11: them at least, mentioned that they had seen the CNN
- 25:25Speaker 11: Kassie video, and prosecutors went, well, whoa, whoa, we're no
- 25:28Speaker 11: longer planning to introduce this as evidence at all. So
- 25:31Speaker 11: the opinions they forged based on that video shouldn't matter,
- 25:35Speaker 11: And of course the judge kind of wrote it down, like,
- 25:38Speaker 11: h I think it's still as important if they've formed
- 25:41Speaker 11: an opinion on who cones is exactly on this video.
- 25:46Speaker 1: Well, you know what, Sydney, You're right still up in
- 25:48Speaker 1: the air. Will the video come in? Will the video
- 25:51Speaker 1: not come in? But even if that video doesn't come in,
- 25:55Speaker 1: what about this videos.
- 25:57Speaker 9: So difficult to refloat on the darkest times in your life.
- 26:03Speaker 15: Sometimes you got to do that.
- 26:06Speaker 12: I was, I mean, I had rock bottom.
- 26:11Speaker 5: But I made no excuses.
- 26:13Speaker 2: My behavior on that video is inexcusable.
- 26:18Speaker 12: I take full responsibility for my ashes in that video.
- 26:22Speaker 4: I'm disgusted, right right right.
- 26:26Speaker 1: That's from Diddy's official Instagram. So Robert Crispin, if he
- 26:30Speaker 1: didn't do it, if it was all consensual and Cassie's
- 26:33Speaker 1: fine with it, why is he apologizing for it.
- 26:34Speaker 6: Because he knows he's guilty in his online I think
- 26:38Speaker 6: he knows it and.
- 26:39Speaker 1: I like it because it's succinct or it was succinct,
- 26:42Speaker 1: but you kept talking to Eric Fattis.
- 26:45Speaker 4: Here's another thing.
- 26:46Speaker 1: Even if the state to avoid an evidentiary problem on appeal,
- 26:52Speaker 1: don't make me go into the in depth explanation of that.
- 26:57Speaker 1: If they don't bring it in in their case, here's
- 27:00Speaker 1: a way to get it in. Because you know somebody's
- 27:03Speaker 1: going to take the stand and say that was all consensual,
- 27:06Speaker 1: Cassie loved being with Cobs. Then they'll bring it in
- 27:11Speaker 1: to cross examine a witness or in a state's rebuttal case.
- 27:15Speaker 1: There's many ways to get this video in.
- 27:18Speaker 5: Since could surely open the door to this video coming in,
- 27:21Speaker 5: and that would be a huge misstep. Another big misstep
- 27:24Speaker 5: is the prosecutor's office making a huge deal about this
- 27:27Speaker 5: video in the months leading up to the case, and
- 27:30Speaker 5: now if they're not going to show it, they have
- 27:32Speaker 5: effectively assassinated Toy's character and got into the minds of
- 27:35Speaker 5: these potential jerks.
- 27:36Speaker 1: What what, Hey, the state didn't do that to him,
- 27:41Speaker 1: He did it to himself, Saint Lynn Shaw.
- 27:43Speaker 4: That's exactly what I'm talking about.
- 27:46Speaker 1: Comb's claiming the state has assassinated his character by CNN
- 27:51Speaker 1: releasing the video. Okay, a, the CNN did that, not
- 27:57Speaker 1: the state. Diddy did that to himself. But yet we're hearing, oh,
- 28:02Speaker 1: the state, the powerful, evil state, they did this to Diddy.
- 28:06Speaker 1: He asked, He's the one on the video, not the prosecutor,
- 28:10Speaker 1: running down.
- 28:11Speaker 4: The hall on a towel.
- 28:12Speaker 10: This video of Cassie running away in her bare feet. Everybody,
- 28:16Speaker 10: do you notice she has no shoes on. If you
- 28:17Speaker 10: look at that video, so many women report to me
- 28:20Speaker 10: and girls that's how they escape. They don't put shoes on.
- 28:23Speaker 10: They run away barefoot down New York streets. I've heard
- 28:26Speaker 10: highways barefoot. This is in no way you know this Diddy,
- 28:30Speaker 10: this dirty Diddy. He flips the story. What you know what,
- 28:34Speaker 10: he's blaming everybody else. We have seen this for months now.
- 28:37Speaker 10: He is guilty, and I maintain this video. Everybody's heard
- 28:41Speaker 10: about it. If you haven't seen it, everybody knows about it.
- 28:44Speaker 10: It's very here in New York, all over the place.
- 28:47Speaker 10: So you know what that is his downfall? Kicking a
- 28:50Speaker 10: woman repeatedly dragging her. You know what he's going down.
- 28:54Speaker 10: He I guarantee when we come back after all this,
- 28:57Speaker 10: you will see he crossed the wrong person. He's eating
- 29:00Speaker 10: a woman on a camera. I don't know where the
- 29:03Speaker 10: hotel was. I guess they got paid off. Why they
- 29:05Speaker 10: didn't report him to the police. But Dirty Diddy.
- 29:07Speaker 1: Is going down.
- 29:08Speaker 3: Jurors are also asked to review a nearly two hundred
- 29:11Speaker 3: person list of names that may come up in the trial.
- 29:14Speaker 3: Judge supermaney and likens the list to an appendix from
- 29:16Speaker 3: The Lord of the Rings. The judge asks the attorneys
- 29:20Speaker 3: to provide the list when jurors complete their questionnaire. As
- 29:23Speaker 3: they spend time listening to numerous jurors verbally explain why
- 29:27Speaker 3: they recognize famous names like Michael B. Jordan, Kanye West,
- 29:32Speaker 3: Kid Cuddy, and even Mike Myers.
- 29:34Speaker 1: What does Michael Myers aka Austin Powers have to do
- 29:40Speaker 1: with Sean Comes's multi count federal indictment. I think we
- 29:45Speaker 1: figured it out, you know, doctor Evil.
- 29:52Speaker 2: I used to think you were crazy, I know, but
- 29:55Speaker 2: now I can see you nuts.
- 29:57Speaker 1: I thank you from the ninety movie Austin Powers, the
- 30:01Speaker 1: International Man of Mystery. That's all we can piece together
- 30:05Speaker 1: so far. But then you've got Michael B. Jordan, Kanye
- 30:09Speaker 1: Oma Stars to Sydney Summer. I think we figured out
- 30:14Speaker 1: why Kid Cutty may be on the list where the
- 30:18Speaker 1: jurors are asked, do you know any of these people?
- 30:21Speaker 1: And Kid Cutty, Kanye Mayers, Jordan and many others are
- 30:25Speaker 1: on the list. I think I know about Kid Cutty,
- 30:29Speaker 1: explain Sid.
- 30:29Speaker 6: So.
- 30:30Speaker 11: After one of many Passy and Comb's breakups, Cassy started
- 30:35Speaker 11: seeing Kid Cutty, and just a few months later, his
- 30:39Speaker 11: car mysteriously exploded outside of his house. Passy attributes that
- 30:45Speaker 11: to her ex boyfriend.
- 30:47Speaker 1: So that tells me he may come in as a witness,
- 30:52Speaker 1: maybe to corroborate claims that this wasn't just forced sex
- 30:59Speaker 1: or who were sex acts at the free co offs,
- 31:03Speaker 1: but that violence became an integral, a critical part of
- 31:08Speaker 1: the scenario. And we were hearing doctor Bethany Marshall describe
- 31:12Speaker 1: that guys I'm hearing in my ear. We are now
- 31:15Speaker 1: being joined by special guest, doctor Dwayne Hendricks. Doctor Hendrix,
- 31:19Speaker 1: former Associate warden at MDC in Brooklyn, where comes as
- 31:22Speaker 1: being held, former Senior warden with US Department Justice, Federal
- 31:26Speaker 1: Bureau of Prisons. He is the author of who Are
- 31:30Speaker 1: You See It?
- 31:31Speaker 4: Say It?
- 31:32Speaker 1: Seize It, and is president of a new Daylight Foundation.
- 31:37Speaker 1: Doctor Hendrix, thank you for being with us. A lot
- 31:40Speaker 1: of people do not understand the mechanics, all the hoops
- 31:45Speaker 1: you have to get through to even get Sean comes
- 31:47Speaker 1: to the courthouse. Even at the Fulton County Courthouse or
- 31:52Speaker 1: the city jail, inmates would have to be up sometimes
- 31:55Speaker 1: at three o'clock in the morning for safety precautions, getting
- 31:59Speaker 1: them fed, getting them into their court clothes, out of
- 32:03Speaker 1: their jumpers, hustling him them sometimes in triple shackle into
- 32:09Speaker 1: a van or a bus. Got to lock it all
- 32:13Speaker 1: down so the inmates can't attack each other on the bus.
- 32:16Speaker 4: I've had one star witness attack.
- 32:18Speaker 1: By the defendant the edge that sent them over on
- 32:20Speaker 1: the same bus with a pin that he had stuck
- 32:26Speaker 1: down his pants where he got a pen from me
- 32:28Speaker 1: from the defense lawyer had stuck the pin down his
- 32:31Speaker 1: pants and stabbed my witness the morning of trial, I
- 32:36Speaker 1: put him on the stand anyway with the stab wound.
- 32:39Speaker 1: That said Doctor Hendrix explain what an inmate light comes
- 32:44Speaker 1: has to go through and what the state has to
- 32:46Speaker 1: go through to even get comes there.
- 32:48Speaker 11: Yeah, Nancy.
- 32:49Speaker 15: The marshalls will send over lists on a daily basis,
- 32:52Speaker 15: and then this staff will start preparing for the next
- 32:56Speaker 15: trial movement for the next day. And after the five
- 32:59Speaker 15: o'clock count clears in the morning, the officers will get
- 33:03Speaker 15: those inmates up, get them down to R and D.
- 33:06Speaker 15: They'll give them a box breakfast like a Continental breakfast
- 33:10Speaker 15: down in the holding area, and then they'll be out
- 33:12Speaker 15: processing with the rest of the offenders. And one of
- 33:15Speaker 15: the critical things I know you mentioned you know one
- 33:18Speaker 15: of your witnesses got stabbed. One of the key functions
- 33:21Speaker 15: for staff is to make sure that anybody who's caught,
- 33:25Speaker 15: you know their separateees. They make sure that they're not
- 33:28Speaker 15: in the same holding cells prior to them leaving the facility,
- 33:33Speaker 15: and the marshals do move inmates on the same bus
- 33:36Speaker 15: sometimes or in the same band inmates that may be
- 33:39Speaker 15: or may not be testifying against each other, but they
- 33:42Speaker 15: try to keep them separated as much as possible, but
- 33:45Speaker 15: we don't have to worry about that in this particular case.
- 33:48Speaker 15: So when Diddy gets over to the courthouse, he'll be
- 33:52Speaker 15: putting the holding cell until he's ready to go up
- 33:55Speaker 15: to the floor where his trial is being held. He'll
- 33:58Speaker 15: be put in his court closed and then he'll be
- 34:02Speaker 15: moved up to the courthouse to the courtroom where the
- 34:04Speaker 15: travel what he'll be having his processes done, and then
- 34:09Speaker 15: we do everything in reverse in the evening. They normally
- 34:13Speaker 15: bring the inmates back about five or six o'clock in
- 34:16Speaker 15: the evening, and he'll go back through that same booking process,
- 34:20Speaker 15: being visually searched and that kind of thing. And also,
- 34:24Speaker 15: especially with this being a high profile case, a lot
- 34:27Speaker 15: of times he won't go through some of the other
- 34:29Speaker 15: intake processes as a health screening, but they'll definitely be
- 34:33Speaker 15: looking and monitoring his mental health for any suicidal audiation,
- 34:39Speaker 15: especially as this trial goes on and some of the
- 34:41Speaker 15: testimony comes out, and they'll be monitoring that on a
- 34:45Speaker 15: day to day basis. But that's typically the process for
- 34:48Speaker 15: individuals when they're going from the.
- 34:51Speaker 1: Jail, Doctor Hendrix, we're talking about the NBC and you're
- 34:55Speaker 1: telling me that the inmates are carefully evaluated for suicidal ideation.
- 35:00Speaker 1: And one word to you, Epstein, you really think MDC
- 35:05Speaker 1: is all on it when it's evaluating the health crisis
- 35:09Speaker 1: of inmates. Yeah, just you know.
- 35:13Speaker 4: Just hold that thought.
- 35:14Speaker 1: So, doctor Henry's are you telling me that MDC is
- 35:19Speaker 1: putting Combs and one of those big buses it's an
- 35:24Speaker 1: old school bus like painted white that says see I
- 35:28Speaker 1: Correctional Institute on the size No, with a lot of
- 35:31Speaker 1: other inmates, because I find that really hard to believe.
- 35:34Speaker 15: That's the typical process. But he is in the East
- 35:38Speaker 15: building over at MDC, which houses less inmates than the
- 35:43Speaker 15: West building, as we're seeing in this shop right here,
- 35:45Speaker 15: So he's probably put in a van. He may not
- 35:48Speaker 15: even have no more than three or four other inmates
- 35:51Speaker 15: handing the court, depending on what the docket is for
- 35:54Speaker 15: that particular day. So he's probably not on a big
- 35:57Speaker 15: van because he's going over to Manhattan Brooklyn and it
- 36:01Speaker 15: just depends on how many offenders that have court that
- 36:05Speaker 15: that particular day. But I would under.
- 36:08Speaker 1: Dwane Hendrix, You've been trying to tell me all along
- 36:11Speaker 1: that Combs is not getting any special treatment. But I
- 36:16Speaker 1: guarantee you he's not on the old school bus with
- 36:19Speaker 1: all the other inmates. He's probably getting ridden over in
- 36:21Speaker 1: what a limo.
- 36:22Speaker 15: No, if anything, it'll be a police car or some
- 36:26Speaker 15: unmarked police a US Marshall vehicle, but it's more than
- 36:31Speaker 15: likely a van, and it will probably have one or
- 36:33Speaker 15: two other offenders in there, and they're probably in the
- 36:35Speaker 15: same housing unit that he's living in.
- 36:38Speaker 5: Over there.
- 36:38Speaker 6: Fort North.
- 36:46Speaker 4: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
- 36:51Speaker 8: Non jury consultant Lisa Marino has also joined Comb's ranks.
- 36:56Speaker 8: Moreno is best known for helping shape the jury that
- 36:58Speaker 8: acquitted to me All, the Florida College professor accused of
- 37:02Speaker 8: conspiring to provide services to the terrorist group the Palestinian
- 37:06Speaker 8: Islamic John Moreno will spend the next two days digging
- 37:09Speaker 8: into jurors backgrounds to determine who the defense will challenge
- 37:13Speaker 8: and who they will fight to.
- 37:14Speaker 1: Keep on Wow okay, high profile jury consultant brought in
- 37:19Speaker 1: on Shawn Combs's team as they try to determine who
- 37:23Speaker 1: will be a witness, who will be a character witness,
- 37:26Speaker 1: who will be kept out? Speaking of celebs in court
- 37:30Speaker 1: like Austin Powers aka Michael Myers and others. Here's one guy.
- 37:35Speaker 1: I guarantee you the defense does not want to show up.
- 37:40Speaker 1: I spent like all the money for a commercial on
- 37:47Speaker 1: these new teeth.
- 37:49Speaker 4: Once again. I had to shoot it on the iPhone.
- 37:54Speaker 16: Go to easy dot com.
- 37:55Speaker 1: That from the official Easy page. Sidney just briefly, how
- 38:01Speaker 1: much did Kanye pay for whatever he's got in place
- 38:05Speaker 1: of his teeth?
- 38:06Speaker 11: Nancy? I believe he paid over eight hundred thousand dollars
- 38:09Speaker 11: for that new set of teeth.
- 38:11Speaker 4: They are titanium.
- 38:14Speaker 1: Okay, Doctor Bethany Marshall, psychoanalyst joining.
- 38:18Speaker 4: Us out of LA.
- 38:20Speaker 1: What do you think the defense is going to do
- 38:21Speaker 1: when Kanye shows up in the courtroom? Did you see
- 38:24Speaker 1: that dental video of him drooling with about a million
- 38:28Speaker 1: dollars worth of titanium in his mouth? That it came
- 38:32Speaker 1: up during jury selection. Kanye's name came up in jury selection,
- 38:36Speaker 1: which I'm going to.
- 38:36Speaker 4: Go to Comlin on.
- 38:38Speaker 1: But you know, no way do they want him in
- 38:41Speaker 1: the courtroom.
- 38:43Speaker 16: Well, Nancy, first of all, he should have a diamond
- 38:45Speaker 16: grill for how much he's spent on his teeth, the
- 38:49Speaker 16: most somebody has ever spent on their veneers or teeth
- 38:52Speaker 16: that's come into my Beverly Hills office is seventy five
- 38:55Speaker 16: thousand dollars, So he got ripped off.
- 38:58Speaker 9: Secondly, you know, he's so lay, viol and unpredictable. One
- 39:01Speaker 9: day he loves Diddy, the next day he hates Diddy.
- 39:04Speaker 9: You know, I think it's just he's just a very
- 39:07Speaker 9: precarious person to have in the courtroom.
- 39:09Speaker 1: But his name actually came up in v Dayer which
- 39:13Speaker 1: Cohen's delay is French for to speak the truth, another
- 39:16Speaker 1: name for jury selection. Lauren Collin joining us at the courthouse.
- 39:19Speaker 1: From the beginning of Lauren, what what did did he
- 39:22Speaker 1: have to do with Kanye? In jury selection?
- 39:26Speaker 7: Kanye Is name was one of the many celebrity names
- 39:28Speaker 7: that was brought up during the VUA Deer and Kanye
- 39:31Speaker 7: and Diddy had this now infamous p phone call while
- 39:35Speaker 7: Diddy was an MDC back in March, where Diddy said
- 39:39Speaker 7: thinged like they're out to get us, and then Kanye
- 39:41Speaker 7: after alleged that he has been giving Diddy money and
- 39:45Speaker 7: he has been giving Ditty's children money. Also, Nancy, I
- 39:49Speaker 7: want to point out that Mike Myers and Kanye West
- 39:53Speaker 7: actually did this charity telethon back in the early two
- 39:56Speaker 7: thousands after Hurricane Katrina. So maybe Mike Myers could speak
- 40:01Speaker 7: to the character of Ditty through Kanye. That was the
- 40:04Speaker 7: thought I had, just speculating.
- 40:06Speaker 1: Hey, it'll be cold day in Hades before anybody brings
- 40:09Speaker 1: on good character in this case if they can find
- 40:11Speaker 1: such a witness for the defense, because once they do that,
- 40:14Speaker 1: that opens the door for the state to bring on
- 40:17Speaker 1: bad character. In other words, all of the other sixty
- 40:21Speaker 1: plus similar transactions as demonstrated in civil lawsuits against Sean Combs.
- 40:27Speaker 1: Here's a big problem, Sidney Sumner. We understand that victim
- 40:31Speaker 1: number three is in the wind that the state can't
- 40:35Speaker 1: find her or her lawyer, Sydney.
- 40:39Speaker 4: That's the problem. We predicted this was going to happen.
- 40:42Speaker 1: Did Ditty's team get to her and now she's not
- 40:44Speaker 1: going to testify.
- 40:45Speaker 11: It's quite possible, Nancy. We know that Combs was using
- 40:49Speaker 11: other inmates jail phone numbers to make calls to potential witnesses,
- 40:55Speaker 11: so this would not be behavior that is not reported
- 41:00Speaker 11: for him. And we know that that third witness actually
- 41:04Speaker 11: intended to use her real name in court, so propecutor
- 41:08Speaker 11: set up a pseudony one for her and she decided, no,
- 41:12Speaker 11: I want to use my real name. So now that
- 41:15Speaker 11: she's backed out entirely, it's a very huge.
- 41:18Speaker 4: Red flag, big red flag.
- 41:20Speaker 1: Why now, on the eve of trial, when the evidence
- 41:23Speaker 1: is about to pour from the witness stand, does one
- 41:26Speaker 1: of the state's witnesses disappear, vanish in the wind? We
- 41:32Speaker 1: wait as evidence commences in the courtroom, and now we
- 41:37Speaker 1: remember an American hero, Deputy shaff Brian Mahaffey, Rockdale, Sheriff's Georgia,
- 41:42Speaker 1: shot and killed in the line of duty, survived by
- 41:45Speaker 1: wife turned widow, Diana, children Trenton and Anniston. American hero
- 41:52Speaker 1: Deputy Shriff Brian Mahaffey Nancy Gray signing off goodbye friend
- 42:00Speaker 15: At