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Hutton & Withrow: Lane Kiffin RIPS SEC Schedule, Playoff Chaos & Arch Manning Benching Buzz | Hour 1 · Hutton & Withrow Show

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  Speaker 1: Out of the Gates on Sport and State. Glad you're
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  Speaker 1: with us. It's Hutton and Withrow presented by Hard Rock Bet.
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  Speaker 2: He's Withrow. I'm Hutton.
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  Speaker 1: And we're ready for a big show today. Chad, good
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  Speaker 1: morning to you, man.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, Hutt.
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  Speaker 1: Plenty to get to. We've got Karen Krause. She's going
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  Speaker 1: to join us from sportandstate.com a little bit later in
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  Speaker 1: today's show. The chaos of the SEC. No one is safe.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone's looking over their shoulder because, well, everyone can be had,
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  Speaker 1: as you've pointed out. We Brooks Carter put together a
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  Speaker 1: great graphic, and it shows just that.
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  Speaker 2: The wheel of chaos. Check this out.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone has had everyone throughout the season.
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  Speaker 2: Week to week.
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  Speaker 3: The transitive property no longer works at all. It didn't
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  Speaker 3: work for a long time, but it certainly doesn't work
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  Speaker 3: in the SEC this year. Look at that. The wheel
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  Speaker 3: of death across the SEC from week to week. And
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  Speaker 3: it seems like every week the team that is the
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  Speaker 3: national darling of that just pulled off the big upset
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  Speaker 3: or dominated some team. They're going to get had the
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  Speaker 3: next week, so look out Tennessee and South Carolina this weekend.
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  Speaker 3: Because if the process continues, that's exactly what's going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: It's probably why South Carolina's favored in that game. Look
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  Speaker 2: at the scores. That's the other thing.
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  Speaker 1: It's very tight scores for the most part throughout the
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  Speaker 1: Southeastern Conference. I would also add the opponent behind you
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  Speaker 1: or in front of you is likely favored over you
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  Speaker 1: no matter who you've had the win over. with Vegas.
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  Speaker 1: We're seeing that right now with Tennessee and South Carolina.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, Chad, Tennessee is 5-0 against South Carolina
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  Speaker 1: coming off of a win against Alabama.
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  Speaker 2: Does that matter this game? No. No, it does matter.
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  Speaker 1: This is a brand new team. But Vegas likes to
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  Speaker 1: throw those things out there. I saw that stat at
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  Speaker 1: Hard Rock Bat. So use that for what you want
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  Speaker 1: or what you will. But We're seeing this moving forward,
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  Speaker 1: and that means more losses. I view it as a
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  Speaker 1: solid win. I don't know where you fall down on this,
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  Speaker 1: but the nine-game SEC schedule.
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  Speaker 2: I love it. Fans, I'm sure, love it. Coaches aren't
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  Speaker 2: necessarily loving it. I mean, television networks love it, right?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there's no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 3: When you look around and see the eyeballs that are
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  Speaker 3: on all of these games, and this past weekend is
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  Speaker 3: a great example.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, so many Good games.
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  Speaker 3: Ole Miss and Missouri are two top 15 teams that
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  Speaker 3: kind of get.
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  Speaker 2: Buried on the daily schedule, right?
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  Speaker 3: Like, it's crazy when you see game after game, you
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  Speaker 3: just must watch television from week to week.
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  Speaker 2: But, Hutton, you're right.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the downside to that is you're going to
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  Speaker 3: take an extra loss probably. You know, even the really
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  Speaker 3: good teams, you're going to have guys maybe a little
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  Speaker 3: bit more beat up over the course of a nine-game
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  Speaker 3: season when you can't play your starters for a quarter
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  Speaker 3: against the Citadel regularly. You know, you get that one
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  Speaker 3: extra cupcake game in there where you can just have
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  Speaker 3: a big party and play your guys as long as
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  Speaker 3: you want and get out. And that's something that Lane Kiffin,
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  Speaker 3: I think, understands. He's seen his team beaten up this year.
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  Speaker 3: They already have two losses on the season. So every
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  Speaker 3: week they feel like they're playing for their playoff lives.
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  Speaker 3: Here's what Lane Kiffin had to say about the nine-game
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  Speaker 3: conference schedule.
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  Speaker 4: Does it open your window a little bit more, though?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, is there a plus to it at all? No.
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  Speaker 5: It's not. You're in. to see teams with more losses
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  Speaker 5: and more beat up. And there's so much into it
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  Speaker 5: more than just the losses. You know, it's at a
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  Speaker 5: time when because of it, I'm not complaining, I'm saying
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  Speaker 5: what it is, because of portal that you can leave
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  Speaker 5: every year in NIL, you see players going from teams
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  Speaker 5: for more money and they go to another team in conference.
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  Speaker 5: And that's fine.
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  Speaker 2: That is what it is.
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  Speaker 4: But at the same time.
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  Speaker 5: That you see that where it's so hard for teams
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  Speaker 5: to build depth after their top players, don't add more
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  Speaker 5: conference games, you know, because now you've got what you've got.
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  Speaker 5: And then you want to talk about not letting portal
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  Speaker 5: players in, you know, in the conference also and limiting that.
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  Speaker 5: We'll have no top ten teams.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Kip, you've got what you've got. Other coaches are saying,
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  Speaker 1: hold my beer on that because you took what we had.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and what I don't buy in all this is
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  Speaker 3: if the SEC has a rule about not rating other
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  Speaker 3: SEC teams for.
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  Speaker 2: Their roster, you've got to go out of the conference.
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  Speaker 3: Suddenly that would mean the SEC can't compete because they
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  Speaker 3: can't go pick off other teams within the conference and
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  Speaker 3: get transfers, I think is a little bit ridiculous. Now,
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  Speaker 3: I would agree with them that if the SEC is
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  Speaker 3: going to do this, I'd love for the Big Ten
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  Speaker 3: to also implement the same rule because, let's face it,
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  Speaker 3: that's where a lot of the desired players in college
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  Speaker 3: football are going. And so if you're going to go
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  Speaker 3: get someone you really want, a lot of times it's
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  Speaker 3: going to be from one of those two places in.
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  Speaker 2: Those two leagues.
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  Speaker 3: And then you could still have the system where anybody
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  Speaker 3: can upgrade their situation and you could go to a
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  Speaker 3: lesser conference and go get the best player on those
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  Speaker 3: teams that are veterans, right? And they could come in
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  Speaker 3: and star for you right away. I mean, is he
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  Speaker 3: on to something here or is this just whining from
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  Speaker 3: Lane Kiffin? I think it's a little bit of both
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  Speaker 3: because I do think it is a little bit of
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  Speaker 3: whining that you have two losses and you're in this spot.
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  Speaker 3: And he has had some bad luck with injuries. There's
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  Speaker 3: no doubt about it. His I think it's sort of, hey,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not complaining about it, but here I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: complain about it and how this is not a.
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  Speaker 2: Great thing for us in the SEC as coaches. Hutton,
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  Speaker 2: I'm with you, man.
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  Speaker 3: It's great for the fan. It's great for us to
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  Speaker 3: sit and watch these games. We don't have to sit
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  Speaker 3: through the cupcake games every week. If you're just a fan,
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  Speaker 3: Kirk Herbstreit said it on College Game Day on Saturday.
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  Speaker 3: Great day to sit here starting at 8 a.m. and
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  Speaker 3: sit on your couch until 2 a.m. and watch Oregon
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  Speaker 3: and Nebraska all through the day.
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  Speaker 2: And he was right. It was the perfect day to do.
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  Speaker 3: Just that and watch game after game. For that fan,
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  Speaker 3: it's incredible with what the SEC is doing with the
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  Speaker 3: nine-game schedule. For the coaches and everyone else, yeah, it
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  Speaker 3: is more pressure-packed.
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  Speaker 2: There are no weeks off.
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  Speaker 3: There's no time to take a break in the SEC
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  Speaker 3: schedule once it gets started. I would like to see,
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  Speaker 3: is there going to be a three-loss SEC team that
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  Speaker 3: gets in over a two-loss UCLA?
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  Speaker 2: As an example, in the Big Ten. And I'll go
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  Speaker 2: and show you UCLA's schedule.
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  Speaker 3: If they won and then this was going to be
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  Speaker 3: their best win was, let's say, over Oregon with a
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  Speaker 3: third-string quarterback. If that's their best win on the year
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  Speaker 3: and you've got a three-loss SEC team that also has
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  Speaker 3: two to three great wins in the top 15, top
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  Speaker 3: 25 on their resume, are you going to see the
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  Speaker 3: committee this year? Granted, it's a one-year thing because we're
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  Speaker 3: going to 24 next year, but are you going to
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  Speaker 3: see them put that SEC team three-loss team in over
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  Speaker 3: a Big Ten two-loss team. Because I'm looking up and
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  Speaker 3: down the conference standings right now, Hutton. You've got Georgia, Kentucky, Tennessee,
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  Speaker 3: and Ole Miss with one loss. I think there is
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  Speaker 3: a high likelihood that Kentucky, Tennessee for sure, and maybe
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  Speaker 3: Ole Miss with their schedules ends up with three losses.
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  Speaker 2: Just looking at their schedule.
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  Speaker 3: Kentucky especially, I would say likely a 9-3 team if
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  Speaker 3: I'm looking at their schedule right now.
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  Speaker 2: Still a great season. Do they have a shot at
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  Speaker 2: the college football playoff at 9-3? I don't think so.
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  Speaker 3: Not if you're just going to make it an elimination
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  Speaker 3: game of who has either no losses, one.
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  Speaker 4: Loss, or two losses.
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  Speaker 1: It depends where they are in the committee's poll prior
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  Speaker 1: to that, the week prior.
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  Speaker 2: That's what it comes down to.
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  Speaker 1: How high are they in the top 12 for them?
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  Speaker 1: That's what it is because they're going to fall, but
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  Speaker 1: a third loss. The old saying that I say is
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  Speaker 1: if you lose, it's how you lose. How did the
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  Speaker 1: game go when the third loss happens late this season?
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  Speaker 1: By the way, Lane Kiffin, don't leave Ole Miss if
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  Speaker 1: you don't want two losses right now.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I would say.
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  Speaker 1: I would also say if you want to leave the conference,
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  Speaker 1: be Lincoln Riley and GTFO if you don't like the schedule.
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  Speaker 2: He knows that. Don't lose to Kentucky. Sorry, Jacob.
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  Speaker 1: Don't lose to Kentucky. And, I mean, the idea that–
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  Speaker 1: The nine-game schedule.
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  Speaker 2: Is some detriment.
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  Speaker 1: I would say with the recruiting aspect, you're also going
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  Speaker 1: to save players.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of players don't want to go play in
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  Speaker 2: the Big Ten. They want to be in the SEC.
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  Speaker 1: And they're not going to leave for Georgia because they
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  Speaker 1: can't because they're going to stay at LSU. That, to me,
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  Speaker 1: is also a benefit for a lot of coaches. And
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  Speaker 1: if you don't like the nine-game schedule, go coach at Vanderbilt.
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  Speaker 1: Go coach at South Carolina, Mississippi State, Arkansas. Go ask
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  Speaker 1: them what it's like instead of coaching the LSU. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: this is the last coach I want to hear discussing
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  Speaker 1: about the schedule who wants to be an elite coach
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  Speaker 1: and has yet to win a national championship, went to
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  Speaker 1: a playoff last year and left his team.
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  Speaker 2: Don't leave your.
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  Speaker 1: Team if you want to win a title. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that matters to me. The other coaches, I understand where
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  Speaker 1: they're coming from. It's going to benefit them that their
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  Speaker 1: players aren't going to go in conference. I don't see
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  Speaker 1: a lot of players bolting for the Big Ten. I
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  Speaker 1: see a lot of Big Ten players coming in And
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  Speaker 1: that's still the way to go if you're a coach
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  Speaker 1: right now. I mean, look what Tennessee did on their defense.
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  Speaker 1: They can still do that. Great players will want to
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  Speaker 1: play in a great league. And I would say the
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  Speaker 1: players probably want to compete against great players. What's it
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  Speaker 1: like for the Citadel? Go get your brains beaten in.
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  Speaker 1: Here's your $ 3 million check, and we'll see you next year.
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  Speaker 3: Lane Kiffin strikes me as a guy that he bitched
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  Speaker 3: about the SEC championship game, saying that, hey, coaches, I
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  Speaker 3: talk to coaches all the time, they don't even want
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  Speaker 3: to play in the game.
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  Speaker 2: I understand that. They better not do it.
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  Speaker 3: Remember, he did that, and they went and lost to
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  Speaker 3: Florida and lost out on the college football playoff the
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  Speaker 3: next week after saying that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he got his way now. There's no more.
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  Speaker 3: SEC championship game starting next year. All conference championship games
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  Speaker 3: are going away. But Kiffin strikes me as a guy
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  Speaker 3: that even when he gets rid of the championship game,
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  Speaker 3: next year he's going to lose.
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  Speaker 2: As the nine seed at home to the 24th seed.
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  Speaker 3: And he's going to complain about, look what we've done.
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  Speaker 3: Now it makes it harder to win a national title. Before,
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't have had that opportunity. I wouldn't have even
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  Speaker 3: had a chance to lose in the first round at
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  Speaker 3: home to this really good 24 seed that's 9-3 in
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  Speaker 3: the Big Ten or 8-4 that comes into Death.
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  Speaker 2: Valley and beat us.
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  Speaker 3: There's always going to be some kind of excuse, I
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  Speaker 3: feel like, with him once the things start to go south.
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  Speaker 2: And look, LSU's good enough to win out. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: they are.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to do it with their
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  Speaker 3: remaining schedule, but they're good enough, they're talented enough to
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  Speaker 3: absolutely run the table and get to the college football playoff. But, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think there's some truth in what he's saying,
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  Speaker 3: but there's no way to not come across as a
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  Speaker 3: complainer given their circumstances right now.
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  Speaker 1: And trust me, Chad, the coaches don't want Lane Kiffin
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  Speaker 1: as their voice of reason.
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  Speaker 2: You know? Neither does the SEC. No, he's not the
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  Speaker 2: new Saban. No.
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  Speaker 3: Where Saban would talk on an issue and everybody perked
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  Speaker 3: up and listened for their talking points.
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  Speaker 2: That's not Lane Kiffin.
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  Speaker 1: You know who likes the schedule is Kirby Smart. He
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  Speaker 1: has said that he wanted the schedule like this.
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  Speaker 2: Why?
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  Speaker 1: Because he's not afraid of it. You know, he's got
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  Speaker 1: the skins on the wall. And he's played the conference games.
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  Speaker 2: And he's won. He's at the top. So is LSU.
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  Speaker 2: Or they should be. That's what Kiffin is expected to do.
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  Speaker 1: So I hear that. Look, I get that it's more difficult.
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  Speaker 1: It's much more difficult. But don't you want that validation?
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  Speaker 1: And it's a 2014 playoff coming up.
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  Speaker 4: I don't.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I realize that Sakey had some things that
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  Speaker 1: he said that convinced everyone to go this way and
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  Speaker 1: coaches were opposed to it. But take your check and
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  Speaker 1: get paid to fail because that's what most coaches do.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think you look up and down the schedule
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  Speaker 2: and you're right.
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  Speaker 3: What you're saying, Hutton, if Lane Kiffin decided, hey, I
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  Speaker 3: really want to win a national title.
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  Speaker 2: Go coach at Florida State. Yes. If they actually had money.
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  Speaker 2: Go replace Lincoln Riley. Don't dominate the ACC all year.
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  Speaker 2: Stay fresh. Stay healthy.
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  Speaker 3: Be a high seed in the college football playoff and
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  Speaker 3: then make a three-game run at that point. That's how
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  Speaker 3: you go do it. If you were afraid of the smoke,
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  Speaker 3: get out of the SEC kitchen. Don't go from Ole
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  Speaker 3: Miss to LSU. Go from Ole Miss to Florida State,
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  Speaker 3: as I said.
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  Speaker 2: Be Lincoln Riley. Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, so Ole Miss is a good example here, okay?
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  Speaker 3: They got one loss right now, the loss at Florida.
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  Speaker 3: But on their schedule, that's remaining. Keep in mind, right
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  Speaker 3: now our perception is this could change, but when you
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  Speaker 3: get the third loss, you're out. You're bouncing playoff consideration
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  Speaker 3: right now. That's the way we think. They have one
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  Speaker 3: loss right now, so they're.
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  Speaker 2: In a good spot.
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  Speaker 3: But on the schedule, this weekend they go to Texas,
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  Speaker 3: who's licking their wounds and may have a new starting quarterback,
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  Speaker 3: not named Arch Manning. Then they get Auburn at home.
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  Speaker 3: Auburn suddenly looks like a little bit more of a challenge.
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  Speaker 3: They get Georgia at home. All right, they've already had
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  Speaker 3: their bye week, by the way, so no weeks off
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  Speaker 3: in this. They go to Oklahoma, which is going to
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  Speaker 3: be a challenge. Then they get Wofford, which is a
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  Speaker 3: week off. And then they get Mississippi State in the
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  Speaker 3: Egg Bowl. But I'm still looking at it thinking, boy,
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  Speaker 3: Ole Miss in a great spot to make the college
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  Speaker 3: football playoff. But I can see them losing at Texas
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  Speaker 3: and to Georgia and then having three losses.
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  Speaker 2: So then what do you do with a three-loss Ole
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  Speaker 2: Miss team?
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  Speaker 3: This is what Big Ten fans do not want to hear,
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  Speaker 3: and they hate it that I'm even mentioning it. But
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  Speaker 3: there is an argument and a consideration to be made
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  Speaker 3: with a nine-game schedule for a three-loss SEC team to
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  Speaker 3: get in over a two-loss Big Ten team. Just based
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  Speaker 3: on the imbalance of schedules in that conference and the
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  Speaker 3: way some schedules look for some of these teams.
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  Speaker 2: And the scores, Chad. The final scores.
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  Speaker 1: Again, it's not a bunch of blowouts and someone has
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  Speaker 1: an injury at quarterback. It validates your point. These are
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  Speaker 1: just top-of-the-line teams, and the middle of the conference is
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  Speaker 1: far more difficult. than what we're seeing in other conferences.
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  Speaker 2: So, UCLA. Perfect example, okay? UCLA's undefeated.
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  Speaker 3: Their biggest win right now is at home over Wisconsin, 17-7.
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  Speaker 3: At Oregon, 17-15. Oregon, we know their quarterback situation.
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  Speaker 2: Not good. Those are by far their two best wins.
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  Speaker 2: Outside of that, it's a lot of nothing.
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  Speaker 3: They finish their season hot with Michigan State at home, Nevada,
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  Speaker 3: which I don't understand how these Big Ten teams have
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  Speaker 3: a non-conference game left, at Minnesota... Illinois at home, at Michigan,
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  Speaker 3: USC at home this year. If they were 10-2 and
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  Speaker 3: they lost to, let's say, at Minnesota, they drop one
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  Speaker 3: and they drop one at Michigan. And their biggest win
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  Speaker 3: is USC at home at the end of the year
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  Speaker 3: and at Oregon with a third string quarterback. You mean
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  Speaker 3: to tell me UCLA is more deserving than a three-loss
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  Speaker 3: Ole Miss team that I just brought up with that
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  Speaker 3: schedule and the games they would have won to even
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  Speaker 3: get to nine and three? I don't think so. And
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  Speaker 3: I think you have to look at this that way.
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  Speaker 3: It cannot just be an elimination of, boy, they have
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  Speaker 3: this many losses, so they're out and this team gets
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  Speaker 3: in because they have fewer losses.
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  Speaker 2: You've got to look at the whole picture.
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  Speaker 3: I think UCLA is a shiny example of how weak
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  Speaker 3: some of these Big Ten schedules are.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and again, look at how competitive these games have
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  Speaker 1: been within the SEC. Let's go back to that because
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: I would say, Chad, the final scores matter to me.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: There are some blowouts in this, like with 45-17. There's
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: a 30-0 game.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: I get all of that. But I'm looking at 31-24, 27-24, 20-17.
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: You've got 27-24 again. There are blowouts. There are also 35-34.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: And it depends on the team.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: It depends on when they lose, how they lose, and
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: how far they are in the rankings. I don't think
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: you're climbing up the pole as a three-loss team if
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: you lose late. But if you fall, I don't think
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: you fall very far and you'll knock someone else out
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: because it's deserving.
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: Totally agree.
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: Look, and I think you could also easily just sort
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: of wipe away like a blowout by Ole Miss. It's still–
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: Hard to fathom how Florida just crushed them the way
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: they did. And then for Florida to get crushed at
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: home by South Carolina, difficult to explain. Missouri beating some
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: teams down. That's when you say, well, it's a long season.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: It's a nine-game conference schedule. You're going to have one dud.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: Everybody gets one dud. You get one blowout loss. I
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: don't think you can look at it that way. I
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: think if you're comparing teams... And to your point, you
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: see one that all of their losses were by three points.
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: In very competitive, tough, physical games, you've got to give
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: them the edge over the team that might have that
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: one blowout loss if you're looking at the two of them.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: You've got to just look at everything. The moral of
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: the story is if you're deciding between these teams, you
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: have to look at the complete picture of everything and
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: not just make this a race to see who has
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: the fewest losses by the end of the year.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: The game against Texas for Ohio State, It almost benefited
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: them in that loss. The talk wasn't about Ohio State
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: losing that game.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: They were up in that game. And then we see
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: what Texas did in the fourth quarter.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: To me, that doesn't receive a knock. like it would
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: if you lose late in the season. Chad, you know
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: the Tennessee schedule. I'm going to pull up the Kentucky
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: schedule because I'm curious about the one-loss teams.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: While you do that, let me give you one more
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: Big Ten schedule. It's Iowa. Oh, good. Okay, UCLA, one example.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: Iowa, another one. Iowa's sitting here right now at 5-1.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: Their one loss was at home 31-14 to Ohio State.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: Not particularly competitive in that game. They could theoretically run
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: the table here. At Minnesota, Wisconsin at home, at Northwestern, Purdue...
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: At Illinois, Nebraska at home. They probably drop one of
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: these games. But let's say they drop one.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: Of those games. A 10-2 Iowa getting in over any
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: 9-3 SEC team based on their schedule. Any of them.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Whether it be Tennessee, Kentucky, Ole Miss, LSU, Texas, Florida.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Go down the list. Any of those teams that are 9-3,
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: I would rank ahead of Iowa.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: I would.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: I'm not sorry about it, Big Ten fans, either. It's truth.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: You put those teams over a 10-2 Iowa.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Well, okay, right now, one loss, Kentucky. Can they make
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: it through the rest of the schedule with only one
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: loss added to it with the two-loss team? Vanderbilt this week,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: they have Tennessee after a bye. That's at Tennessee. They
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: will then host Florida. They then go to Missouri, and
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: then they host Louisville. That's a tough stretch based on
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: the SEC this year. With Florida and how they've been playing,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: you've got Missouri– And, of course, Louisville is their rival.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: But also, the game against Tennessee, to me, the team
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: that comes out of there has a realistic shot at
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: just keeping things.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: To two losses, even if they drop one. Totally agree.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: What does Tennessee have left?
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: Tennessee's got at South Carolina, they get a bye week,
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: they get Kentucky at home, they go to A & M,
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: they get LSU at home, they go to Vanderbilt on
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: Thanksgiving weekend to wrap up the season.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: So they're two toughest opponents left.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: I think this is their toughest game, this coming up
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: Saturday on the road at South Carolina with South Carolina
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: coming off a bye. They'll also get Kentucky in two
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: weeks off a bye. Their bye is lined up on
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: Halloween day. So I think their two toughest opponents are
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: Kentucky and LSU.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: They're both in Neyland.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: I think their toughest game is this weekend in South Carolina.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: I look at that and I say they're probably going
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: to be 9-3, but they have a great chance at 10-2.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: And if they're 10-2, they're absolutely in the college football playoff.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: But if I had to play the odds, I'm thinking
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: they're going to drop two of those games. They're going
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: to beat an L.A. or Kentucky, one of the two.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: They're going to beat Vandy at the end of the year.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: They're going to go to A & M and win.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: But 9-3 is more likely. Again, and we'll put this
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: as a poll question too. 9-3 Tennessee at that point
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: would have a win over Alabama. They would have a
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: win over Kentucky or LSU or both.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: Auburn?
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Auburn, who's looking better right now. Every SEC game is
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: going to look better. Either they go to A &
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: M and win, that's going to look better than any
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: of those wins outside of UCLA at Oregon for both
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: UCLA and Iowa. And the point that Kip is trying
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: to make is the difficult schedule.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: And it is.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: But it's also going to benefit you for not playing Wofford.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: And keep in mind, to Chad's point about the scheduling
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: and the Big Ten SEC comparison, he just told you
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Tennessee's toughest games are coming.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Up off of a bye against South Carolina. I'll do respect.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: South Carolina and Kentucky. We're not talking Bama and LSU.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: South Carolina and Kentucky. That's the middle of the SEC
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: right now. And when I say middle, I mean, that's
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: where you put those teams if you're having the hierarchy.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: And right now, Kentucky's at the top with you. And
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: South Carolina, they're still playing.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: But the middle of that SEC, the difference is the
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: meat of the SEC, the middle of that SEC.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: You're right. You hear South Carolina, Kentucky, it doesn't give
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: you chills. It doesn't register.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: Or you're shivering or anything. But those teams can beat anybody.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: They've shown it. South Carolina on the road at Florida, Kentucky,
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: what they've already done this year. We've got to put
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: some respect on their name the rest of the season.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Those teams can beat anybody. The middle of the Big
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: Ten is Purdue– Wisconsin, Minnesota.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: And they're playing Wofford down the stretch. Illinois. I mean, Northwestern. Like, no.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: These are not the same when you look at the
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: conference top to bottom.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Kiffin can go to the Big Ten. He can vote
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: for the Big Ten to play Wofford if he wants to.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: Again, the best route to sum this up with Lane
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Kiffin's original comments, if you really want to just guarantee
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: you're going to be playing for a college football championship
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: every year, go to the ACC.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: Go to one of the top programs there.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: Miami, we're not even talking about them other than at
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Notre Dame, of possibly losing a game. I know they
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: had a battle on Saturday night against Florida State, but
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: you can go somewhere like that and you can run
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: the table or lose one or maybe even two games
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: and get in the college football playoff every year. Losing
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: only two games or even three games in the SEC
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: is going to be very difficult every single season, and
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: that's what you signed up for. This is the big
• 22:30
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• 22:33
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• 22:35
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• 22:37
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• 22:41
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• 22:42
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• 22:45
  Speaker 3: And when you sign up for it, you're accepting that
• 22:48
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• 22:49
  Speaker 2: And you don't have Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama knocking down your
• 22:53
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• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Um, Hey, if you want to win a title, stay
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: at Ole Miss. That's what I would say, too, last year. Chad,
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  Speaker 2: It was last week. Yes. It was last week.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: I wonder if maybe one of these teams will be
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: a part of the great vibes. I know one of
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: the teams, Tulane gave us great vibes on Friday night
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: for Wagon Wheel. I don't know if Tulane is going
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: to be in your top five vibes or not, but
• 25:28
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• 25:33
  Speaker 1: top five vibes across college football right now for you.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Let's go with it. Number one, BYU. BYU. What a
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: moment in Provo all weekend.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: And for them to get the win over Notre Dame,
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: even if there was one second left on the clock,
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: which there was, there should have been one more play
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: for Notre Dame into the end zone. And I also
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: think that was probably pass interference in the end zone.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: But I also see very commonly that refs are not
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: going to flag that in a moment like that at
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: the end of the game. They let you get a
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: little bit more handsy with the receivers in those big moments. BYU, though,
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: got to be feeling good. Undefeated right now, their remaining
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: schedule at UCF, Arizona State at home, at Utah, Baylor
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: at Kansas, Cincinnati at home. I mean, 11-1, even if
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: they lose at Utah, that's going to be the toughest
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: game left. Unless it's going to be a monumental upset
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: if any of these other teams beat them, right?
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: They're going to be heavy favorites in every game except
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: the game at Utah. They could be number one in
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: the country.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're number two right now. They're number two right now.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: I think behind Miami.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: This could be like 1984 all over again where BYU
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: won the national title.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: I could see that happening with this team. Oh, Bear.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Bear's getting it done. Number two, the Tennessee Vols.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: Look, they were smoking cigars on the field, which I
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: don't like, and I've had all the Tennessee fans tell
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: me as to why it's completely acceptable and okay. Danny
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: White said on the Jumbotron just not to tear down
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: the goalpost and to go out there and basically have
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: a little cigar party on the field.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: That's great.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: I also think we're being a little bit flippant about
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: a $ 500, 000 cigar party that gets paid to Alabama's athletic
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: department when Danny White's also going to ask the same
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: fans to pay a lot more money in ticket prices
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: next year because they've got to make the books work out.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: But yet we're okay taking a $ 500, 000 hit. paying it
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: to Alabama so we can have a photo opportunity with
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: a cigar on the field that could just as easily
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: be done in the stands by the way with everyone
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: with the field as the backdrop when you take your
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: selfie I'm not anti-fun I'm anti-paying five hundred thousand dollars
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: to Alabama and I'm anti not looking like you've been
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: there before because as Mike Key said.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: On the call Josh Heupel doesn't lose.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: To Alabama at Neyland Stadium he's three and oh Against
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: the Tide in Neyland Stadium.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: So this is becoming a lot more commonplace. And you
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: know what, Chad? I would say this too.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Alabama's just really the only team that gets the $ 500, 000.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: I realize LSU is getting that from Kentucky this year.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: But honestly, it's just Alabama that gets these payments. That's
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: the team that you're storming the field against when you
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: beat them at home.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: That's why, look, I have a problem with it. It's
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: not about being anti-fun. We had a ton of fun
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: in Knoxville this weekend. We enjoyed cigars. We did the
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: whole thing. You can do all that. I just want
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: to act like you've been there before, and I don't
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: want to pay $ 500, 000 to Alabama. And I think if
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: you're a Tennessee fan that's completely okay with that, you're
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: probably lying to yourself a little bit about that. But
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: vibes in Knoxville are high. Amazing weekend, amazing scene with
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: Dixieland Delight playing on the field. All the different footage
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: of that game. You got Mike Matthews blowing up the
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: Alabama defender on the block. You've got Deshaun Bishop, the
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: shot of his eyes, seeing the linebacker. He was going
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: to run over into the end zone on the clinching touchdown.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Tennessee out-toughed, out-physicaled, everything. Kalen DeBoer having a complete psychological
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: meltdown on the sideline, apparently, during spooky Rocky Top.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Vibes are incredibly high.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: I thought about putting Tennessee number one here, but because
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: BYU got that win in primetime and with their remaining schedule,
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: vibes are really high in Provo.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: You good with BYU one, Hutton, Tennessee two in this? Yeah,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: I totally agree with where you are on this.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Good.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: Number three, UCLA. They get a close win against Wisconsin.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: But also, UCLA doing it without Nico Yamileava. Out for
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: the season. And they got their backup quarterback in. He
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: didn't look great, but he's not nearly as mobile as Nico.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: But he can spin it a little bit. The guy
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: they brought in in that game. But Wisconsin is better
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: this year. That's a good win. You're undefeated if you're UCLA.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: you're feeling really good about life you.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Know who else is doing it without nico tennessee.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: Nico's someone brought that up to me the other day
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: they said um boy you think that nico won the
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: trade with going to ucla considering they're undefeated i said
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: well he's out for the season yeah One, at UCLA.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Also, you have to.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: Factor in, they went 3-9 in the first year. He
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: got beaten up throughout that year. So, no, I don't
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: think that he won the tradeoff with Tennessee right now.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: Tennessee also in position at this moment to play in
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: the college football playoff, just like UCLA is in position
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: at the moment to play in the college football playoff.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: And he's in California. He's not in Knoxville. That's true.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Knoxville's a better college. That's true.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: Paying a lot more taxes in California also right now
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: than he would be in East Tennessee. Number four, Kentucky Wildcats. Well,
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: we can rinse and repeat this every single week.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: We keep waiting on them to drop the road game
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: or to lose in some way. They don't play great
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: on offense against a really good Oklahoma defense, but they
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: get the pick six late, and they're just finding ways
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: to win and gut out these close games. John Mateer,
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: by the way, credit to Kentucky, and I'm not trying
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: to take anything away from them. He's one of the
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: worst quarterbacks in college football this year. from what I've
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: seen at times. I mean, just horrible mistake after horrible mistake.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: But Kentucky, vibes are very high in the bluegrass state.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: And number five, Hutton, ever since that loss to Florida,
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: Ole Miss has just dominated people. They come to Nashville
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: and just ragdoll Vanderbilt, up 42-3 at halftime, and they're
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: playing backups in the second half.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: They destroy Missouri, who's a very good team.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: On Saturday all Ole Miss has done since that bye
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: week they got is they've gotten a lot better on
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: defense under Pete Golding and his leadership and they have
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: destroyed teams left and right so we were in Oxford
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Mississippi earlier this year where the vibes were as high
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: as they will be at any spot in college football
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: this season They're incredibly high there right now with the
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: way that team is playing.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Yes, they are.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: The way that they came off the bye week locked
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: in against Vanderbilt, and it's not like they won the game.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: That's not my point.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: What was it, 42? They put up 42, 45 points
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: in the first half?
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: 42-3, I think it was, at halftime.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: The way they started that game, I don't care who
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: they're playing. When you boat race somebody, it's not looking ahead.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: You're not jumping forward on your schedule. and thinking that, oh,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: we got this. Especially this year with all of the teams, Chad,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: that are dropping a game here and there against inferior opponents.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: When I say inferior, I mean it's the SEC, but
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: it's the mindset of who you're playing. Ole Miss didn't
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: do that. They've got them locked in. It was a
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: great job by goalie so far, and we'll see if
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: that can continue. I won't be shocked if they lose,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: but I won't be shocked if they take care of
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: business too.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: They're a very good team, very good. Very, very good.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: On the flip side of the great vibes, there were
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: some coaches who took an L this past weekend. And
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: this is where all the things about Arch Manning getting
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: in trouble for laughing at the AI slop of Holly
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: Rowe getting slapped by Steve Sarkeesian and all the possible
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: negatives with AI. This is where AI and the internet
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: should be utilized. It's in videos like this that I
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: could not stop watching yesterday. And everyone in sports has
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: commented on this video and whoever did it on TikTok.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: But here are the losing coaches from this past Saturday.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: Marcus Freeman on the sax gets me every time. And
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: then the open mouth chuckle from Kalen DeBoer as he's
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: singing out the lyrics that they're all lip syncing to.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: My favorite part, they nailed Sarkeesian too. It's just stone-faced,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: just being a prick. It's perfect for Sarkeesian.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: It's one of those videos that's quick and you can
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: watch it over and over again and you pick up
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: something different every single time. Signetti's facial expressions. He's doing
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: full Signetti looks the whole time. As he's singing. And
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: Kirby Smart's very stoic as well. But the Kalen DeBoer cutaway.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: And then you realize that Marcus Freeman's playing the sax.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: Yes. Gets me. Look at Cignetti's face. Look at Sarkeesian.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: And also, you'll note at the end here, Cignetti with
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: the hand motion to end the video is great.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: We got the smile from Marcus Freeman on the sax.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: And then, there you go. Right there. This thing right
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: here from Cignetti. Amazing. That's funny, man. Pulling the train whistle.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: The sign for the truck driver to honk the horn
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: when you were a kid. That's what Signetti ends with
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: in the song. Great stuff. That was fun.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Speaking of Sark, how about them giving more first-team reps
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: to a backup? This is, what, two weeks after Sark
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: is talking about how if Manning had a different last name,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: he'd be a good quarterback.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, we wouldn't be talking about him. Nobody would
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: be criticizing him at all. And I'm thinking it's exactly
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: the opposite.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: It's the opposite. He'd be benched right now.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: If Chad Withrow had his stats and his play as
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: a starting quarterback at Tennessee, that guy would get benched
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: for KJ Lacey Jr. immediately and get this guy some
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: more reps. It's interesting timing, too, that his family school
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: is coming to town in Ole Miss. And when I
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: first saw that, I'm thinking, I would definitely bench him
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: if it was at Ole Miss.
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: Because you're almost saving Arch Manning from that. If you
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: go there and play bad and lose on the road,
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: and it's your granddad and your dad and your Uncle
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: Eli's school that you look bad against, and then you're
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: out of the college football playoff race possibly with that loss.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: But it's in Austin, and look, this is the right move.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: They need to get someone else in the game and
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: see if it can light a fire with this team
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: because they're too talented to to be playing the way
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: they are on offense right now. And you've got to
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: evaluate every possibility if you're Steve Sarkeesian. And the biggest
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: possibility is you go with a different quarterback.
• 35:58
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  Speaker 2: Matt Rule, Nebraska, he's close. He's close. But they're not
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: getting over the hump, right?
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Like, what's... They lost their focus on the sideline this
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: past week with the fourth quarter?
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: This is like an FDR fireside chat of press conference
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: appearances from Matt Rule. Some argue that he's completely crashing
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: out and he's losing it with this four-plus-minute answer to
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: a question about his team. I would argue that he's
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: making a ton of sense. with everything that he's saying.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: He is a fast talker. He is a Northeastern guy.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: So you've got to really follow along his train of
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: thought as he's telling you about the Nebraska football program
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: in all of this. Part of this stems from they
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: play the song Shout.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Right. Jump up and shout.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: Animal House, which was filmed in Eugene, Oregon, at a
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: frat house there on campus, they pay homage to Animal
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: House by playing.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: Shout before the fourth quarter.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: Matt Rule saw UCLA jumping around to Shout, so he
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: told his players they could get on the field and dance.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: to shout with the fans before the fourth quarter. It
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: looks fine if you hold on and win the game.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: But when you blow a 14-0 lead or 14-3 or
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: whatever it was, and you lose 17-14 in the fourth,
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: people are going to be talking about it. But overall,
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: we've all seen Nebraska. They are a program that seemingly
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: majors in losing close games for the last 10 years,
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: regardless of coach. They've lost close game after close game
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: after close game.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Here is Matt Ruhle. talking about his team.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: And I want everybody to think to themselves as they
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: watch this, has he gone crazy or is he making
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: some really good points with where his football team is
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: right now?
• 38:49
  Speaker 6: I just want to make sure I'm not going to
• 38:51
  Speaker 6: live in the world of after the way the last
• 38:53
  Speaker 6: two weeks have gone. And I say that respectfully, I'm
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: saying for our players, they haven't gone anything.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: We did them.
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: We played well enough to win and then we didn't win.
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: And so we are going to go back and we
• 39:02
  Speaker 6: are going to The standard of how we're going to
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: do things is going to not change. And it's going
• 39:07
  Speaker 6: to be we expected to win those games. We should
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: have won the last two games. We had a chance
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: to win the last two games. Our players, what I've
• 39:13
  Speaker 6: observed here is our players hear a lot of the
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: outside stuff and they start to feel pressure.
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: And the outside stuff is great. I'm not saying that.
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: And they start being like, oh, coach should have called timeout. Oh, no,
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: it's every freaking person. It's everybody.
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: Like I didn't call the timeout last week because no
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: one said, hey, call timeout.
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: That's the reality. of it, right?
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: No one said, oh, my gosh, we made a bet.
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: And the person that said the wrong person, no, doesn't
• 39:33
  Speaker 6: walk up here. But I don't mind taking it. I'll
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: take the bullets for my guys all day long. I
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: just want everybody in the building to be like, Coach,
• 39:40
  Speaker 6: I called the wrong person and we gave up a
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: touchdown because of it. And I want someone else to
• 39:44
  Speaker 6: be like, I'm running out of bounds and I should
• 39:45
  Speaker 6: be cutting back. And I want someone else to be like,
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: I'm not blocking a defensive end in pass pro that
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: I should be able to block. I want everyone doing that,
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: if that makes sense. Nothing happened to us, and there's
• 39:55
  Speaker 6: not going to be any victims. I let the guys
• 39:58
  Speaker 6: dance at the fourth quarter. I will never do that again.
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: I sat up, and I pulled them all up, and
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: they started running. I was like, get back in. Part
• 40:06
  Speaker 6: of our thing was UCLA did it. Coming off Indiana,
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: I was like, hey, we're going to play our tail off.
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: It goes back to what Coach Osborne said when he
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: first got here. Hey, you play physical for three quarters
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: to win the fourth quarter. And I was like, we're
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: going to be so physical in the third quarter, first quarter,
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: second quarter, third quarter, fourth quarter comes. They're going to
• 40:23
  Speaker 6: try to intimidate you with that song.
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: Have fun. Enjoy it.
• 40:26
  Speaker 6: Lock back in. And our guys got back in. We
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: didn't win the fourth quarter. And that's not my DNA.
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: And so, like, I have to own that. Like, I
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: was sitting out there.
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: I was like, get in here. Let's go play.
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: And then we get three plays on offense in the
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: fourth quarter. We give up a 16-yard drive and a seven.
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: We give up fourth and three on a shallow cross
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: we know is coming. We give up, you know, we're tackling,
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: you know, The defense can say, and I probably was
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: wrong even a little bit, Sam, at the end of
• 40:47
  Speaker 6: the game, because you asked me, I said, hey, we
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: got tired. They only played 43, 46 plays in the
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: first three quarters. We didn't get tired because the offense
• 40:54
  Speaker 6: wasn't good enough. And guys on defense early in the game,
• 40:56
  Speaker 6: they're trying to be positive. They're like, hey, offense is struggling.
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: We're going to have to go win it ourselves. You
• 41:00
  Speaker 6: had a chance to win it yourself, and you didn't.
• 41:02
  Speaker 6: And so that's the mentality I'm going to have with
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: our team. I expect us to have a chance to
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: win every game moving forward, and I expect every game
• 41:09
  Speaker 6: moving forward is going to come down to a winning moment.
• 41:11
  Speaker 6: I think we are a really, really, really good team.
• 41:13
  Speaker 6: We've got to be great in the important moments. And
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: I don't care if we're playing this team or that team.
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: It's not that. So I'm not going to allow in
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: that building the narrative of, oh.
• 41:23
  Speaker 6: Coach Orrick should have done this or Coach Rule should
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: have done this or the quarterback should have done this
• 41:26
  Speaker 6: or it's the O-line's fault.
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: It's the O-line's fault. It's Rule's fault. It's Orrick's fault.
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: It's Dana's fault. It's Jeep's fault. It's the quarterback's fault.
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: It's the receiver's fault. All of us.
• 41:34
  Speaker 6: We all have a thousand plays we can look back.
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: And so, yeah, the bye week came at a good time.
• 41:39
  Speaker 6: It came at a good time physically. But it came
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: at a good time to reset And not, poor us,
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: poor old Nebraska. Like LSU's sitting here right now 5-2.
• 41:49
  Speaker 6: They lost on the last play of the game against
• 41:51
  Speaker 6: Ole Miss, and they lost at a two-point conversion. They
• 41:54
  Speaker 6: get the benefit of the doubt, and they're probably, I
• 41:56
  Speaker 6: don't know what they are, 10, 15, 20. We don't
• 41:58
  Speaker 6: get the benefit of the doubt because we haven't earned
• 41:59
  Speaker 6: it yet, and we haven't taken it, and we're fine
• 42:01
  Speaker 6: with that. But we are a really good team, a
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: really good team that has to be better. And that's
• 42:06
  Speaker 6: the message in our room. That's the message out there
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: in recruiting. That's the message to the coaches this morning.
• 42:11
  Speaker 6: It was like, you have to be better. I have
• 42:14
  Speaker 6: to be better. We told them, hey, guys, they're going
• 42:16
  Speaker 6: to go empty tempo. They're going to take a shot.
• 42:18
  Speaker 6: McDougal flips the guy over. We said, hey, guys, they're
• 42:20
  Speaker 6: going to go empty four verticals with Haswai Juke with
• 42:23
  Speaker 6: an option run. Anthony Jones tips it and picks it off.
• 42:26
  Speaker 6: Our guys do exactly what they're asked to do when
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: we give them the right things to do. We have
• 42:30
  Speaker 6: to be better as coaches, and we have to be
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: better as players, but hopefully you can sense my energy.
• 42:36
  Speaker 6: I've watched the last couple years like, man, Coach Rule,
• 42:38
  Speaker 6: you don't win down the stretch. Well, I ain't the
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: one out there playing, right? Like, Players, you want to
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: win down the stretch? You go win down the stretch.
• 42:45
  Speaker 6: Don't listen to anything outside.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: Watch the tape. I blocked him. I blocked him.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: I didn't block him.
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: We gave up a sack. Block him. You know what
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: I'm saying? Block him.
• 42:53
  Speaker 6: And I say that because I believe in my players.
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: I want to make that very clear. You hear a
• 42:56
  Speaker 6: lot of coaches get up here and say things like, oh,
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: we're not executing. If you're not executing, who's that on?
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: It's on all of us.
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: Are we giving them the right things? Like the first
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: third down sand.
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: Option route. Main coverage. Quasi sees the option route versus
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: main coverage.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Breaks it.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: He's wide open.
• 43:12
  Speaker 6: Number 52 for them is getting blocked. He puts his
• 43:14
  Speaker 6: hand up, tips the ball up in the air. We
• 43:15
  Speaker 6: don't convert the third down. I need the right guard
• 43:17
  Speaker 6: center to not let him put his hands up. I
• 43:19
  Speaker 6: need them to be more firm.
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: So it's just all of us, man. We got a
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: good team. We got to be better.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, I get what he's saying. I don't see
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: that he's lost his mind in that at all.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Um, You know, the accountability part at the beginning, it
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: does come across as if he's pointing fingers. But even
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: though he says, I'll raise my hand and put it
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: on me, or if he's not pointing fingers, Chad, he's
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: saying that his team's not very accountable. But, I mean,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: he's stating the obvious, right? Like, Nebraska's really good, but
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: they're not great. And they're not great in the big moments.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: And one bad moment, especially late in the games, that
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: tends to lead to a loss. And that's what's happened
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: recently with Nebraska, even though they're a really good team.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: And I wanted to play the whole video because this
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: is a classic example of you could take two of
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: those clips and repurpose those and regurgitate it, and suddenly
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: Matt Rule has lost control, and he's throwing his quarterback
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: and his coaches and his players on the bus. Because
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: the first clip I saw was that. It was him
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: talking about the quarterback and the players. There's one clip
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: that we didn't even get all of it. There's another
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: answer he gives where he says, everybody talks about how
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: bad we are in close games. Guys, I'm not on
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: the field playing in those moments.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: In close games.
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: Those are my players out there losing those games in
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: close moments. And he's tying it back into, it's all
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: of us. We have to coach better in those moments.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: He says they get in their head because they're too
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: connected to the outside world and reading about what people
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: say about them choking late in games. And they start
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: to play worse because they start to feel it and
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: think about it.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: He thinks that's a problem with his program.
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: He accuses multiple SEC programs of already tampering with his quarterback.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: And Jared Calandria, the guy who came over from UNLV,
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: he chastises the media at one point and kind of
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: brings it back, but he's like, you guys talking about
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: how bad the players are here around him does not help.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: When SEC programs are coming in and saying, do you
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: want to play better players in the SEC and a
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: better teammate?
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Then come over here.
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: He said a ton in that press conference. I think 90%
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: of it I would agree with. Here are a couple
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: things I highlighted, though. When you say UCLA did it,
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: as a reason for you to do it, that doesn't
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: track well with me, with the dancing going into the
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: fourth quarter. That's just funny to me that now UCLA
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: is the barometer for what we're going to do as
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: a program all of a sudden. Well, UCLA did it,
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: so I let our guys do it, and that was
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: a mistake. We're never going to dance that way in
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: an opposing field before the fourth quarter.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go note by note with you on
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: this because I'm going to pick up there because you're
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: coaching softball. You know if you get outside of the routine,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: if you lose the focus, you lose your edge.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And this was totally outside their routine.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's not because of the dancing. It's
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: because they've not done it.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: I guarantee you, if they do it again, they're more
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: locked in coming off of that. But, you know, they're
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: running around. I'm imagining like a little league team running around.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: You're trying to gather all the players together. That's exactly
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: what happened here. And, yeah, they lost their mental focus
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: for that moment. And they played bad in the fourth quarter.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: And he prepared to do it too.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't some spontaneous man.
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: We're on a roll.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: Our defense is hunting. We're going to get up here.
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: We're going to start dancing around and they're just, you know,
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: going nuts before the fourth quarter organically. He said, I
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: told our guys before the game, Hey, UCLA did this.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: We're going to go in and play fast and play hard.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: And we're going to dance with the fans going into
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: the fourth quarter. We're not going to let them intimidate us.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking, Oh, even worse. But he came back and said,
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: I'll never happen again. That was a mistake on my part. Um,
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: He said, you start to listen to, oh, coach should
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: have called a timeout. Coach should have done this. Coach
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: should have called a timeout. Talking about the Indiana game
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: a week ago. He says, no one told me to
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: call a timeout. And he said, my analytics guy didn't
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: tell me to call a timeout. The guy in charge
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: of that didn't tell me. So we're not talking about him.
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: And hey, I'm fine standing up here taking.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: The blame for everything. Right. But I get what he's saying,
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: but you're the head coach. It's outcomes across.
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: Your biggest responsibility is clock management at times when you're
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: doing that.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: You're not calling offensive or defensive plays offensively. you need
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: to know to call a timeout in that moment.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: And if your dude didn't tell you to call a timeout,
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: you need to hire a new dude, whoever that person is, right?
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: That's still on you ultimately if something that big happens.
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: He also said, poor us, poor Nebraska, and that they're
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: not going to sit there and feel that way, right?
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: But that is like I'm married to a huge Nebraska fan.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: I feel so bad for all of them.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: It's terrible. It feels like, what did we do to
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: God to deserve this? Every single week.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: My wife went to bed with four minutes left when
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: Nebraska up eight because she couldn't stay awake any longer.
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: She woke up early in the morning to watch the
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: end of it. and saw them collapse against Dylan Raiola,
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: a guy they gave millions to, who was going to
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: be the savior of the Nebraska program, who can't start
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: for Oregon, who got benched for a third-string quarterback he
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: was so bad. Then that third-string quarterback was so awful,
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: they reinsert him in the game. The dude becomes a
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: hero against Nebraska. And the media makes it like this
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: redemption moment. I'm like, redemption? Nebraska gave that dude everything,
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: and he left. There's no redemption here. This is satanic.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: He's Patrick Mahomes, Jeff.
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: This is satanic if you look at this from a
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: Nebraska perspective. Like, no, there's no redemption. This is not
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: a Christ-like story. This is Satan being.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: Involved in this if you're Nebraska. The guy who left
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: us is going to come back and.
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: Beat us, and then America is going to treat it like, oh, man,
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: this is a great story.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: For Dylan Viola, I'm thinking, oh, my God. I say
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: all this.
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: It's a great fan base with a great tradition. I
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: legitimately feel bad for all of them right now, having
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: to go through this week after week in big game
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: after big game. So for Matt Rule to say, I'm
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: tired of the poor us, poor Nebraska, he compares it
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: to LSU. They got two losses too. No one's feeling
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: sorry for them about it. And they've earned it. They've
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: earned the ranking they have. We haven't earned it with
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: two losses. But we dictate the outcome. That's how we're
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: going to approach this. It's not He said at one point,
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: it's not happening to us.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: We did it.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: We've got to stop the mentality of this happened to us,
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: this happened to us. No, there are things we can
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: do to affect it too. So we're going to focus
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: more on that we.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: Lost these games.
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: We did this late in the game, not, oh my gosh,
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: this is happening to us again. And look, if you're
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: a fan, you have to feel that way. I mean,
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: I totally understand. You're not out there playing. You're not coaching.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: Everything is happening to you as a Nebraska fan. Matt
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: Rule's point is a good one. It's not happening to
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: us in this building. We take accountability for all of us,
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: the quarterback, the offensive guard, the safety, the analyst that's
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: supposed to tell me to call a timeout, the head coach.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: Everybody in that building has to take ownership of it.
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: I thought it was pretty great. I know he's getting
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: crushed over a few of those little clips of it,
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: but I think overall what he's saying is correct, and
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: it's a good message to the team.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: It's accountability.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: Instead of pointing out excuses, you point and find solutions.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: You know, like, that's ultimately what he's saying. I agree
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: about the clips thing.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: You're right.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: You can take that and really clip that up and
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: make it worse than what it came across as anyway.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: But early on in that presser, he did come across
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: in that answer as pointing fingers, but he gets back
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: to his point. I just think he worded it wrong
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: at the beginning, where he's like, hey, what about this
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: other guy? And then he's like, I can say it too,
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: you know, but... Yeah, I mean, also, Rule could have
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: known to take a timeout, too.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: It's also on him. But he's taking all the heat anyway.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: That's the job of the head coach. That's how you
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: do it later in that answer. The Eagles are taking heat.
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: By the way, Matt Rule makes an annual base salary
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: of $ 8. 5 million.
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: And with incentives, he's set to make over $ 11. 7 million
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: as the head coach of Nebraska.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: So.
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: What falls back on, and that's ultimately the thing, is
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: it's still on you. He does say that. He's like,
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: I'm not ducking responsibility too. But you're paid to assemble
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: a really good roster. Nebraska, they pay about as much
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: as Florida does for a roster. They're in the $ 35
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: million range. They're paying good money for that team. They're
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: not one of the 10 teams that are $ 40 million
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: plus in college football.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: But if you look at that next.
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: Echelon of $ 25 million to $ 40 million roster– Nebraska is
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: in there with a lot of SEC teams. I like
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: what he's saying. It's not happening to us. They've got
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: to go do it. And they've got to go win
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: one of these big games. And they need to do
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: it in a close game at some point.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: And if he fails, he gets $ 71 million if they
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: fire him.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: That is crazy on the buyout. Not even an option.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: That's according to Google. I feel like if you're Nebraska,
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: it's not even an option.
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: You stick with this guy and hope they figure out
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: and win some close games. Because they are far more
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: competitive than they have been in a lot of these games.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: I agree with him. They're very good. They're just not great.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: And he's trying to get them over the hump there.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: Also not great. The Eagles flying Jalen Hurts with the
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: blood clot. We discussed this. And an example of the
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: spokesperson of the team and whether or not it's how
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: it should be handled. That's next here on Hunting With Rose,
• 52:43
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