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Jags Media Roundtable: Carlyon, DiRocco · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to another Jaguars media round table. My name is J. P. Shaddick.
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  Speaker 1: And our guests today or Hayes, Carlina Tin Texel, gonna
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  Speaker 1: see Heyes, good to see JP, Mike Do Rocko ESPN
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  Speaker 1: always happy to be here. Good to see you man,
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for coming in. We've just heard from Doug Morone
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  Speaker 1: on Wednesday of week to the Jags heading to Houston.
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  Speaker 1: The biggest story around this team right now is Gardner
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  Speaker 1: Minshew after his performance last week filling in for Nick Foles,
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  Speaker 1: And the question we've had kind of bandied about and
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  Speaker 1: on shows earlier this week is okay, if it folds
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  Speaker 1: his back November, that's eight games. What is the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: record in those eight games? You can't predict that. But
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  Speaker 1: what are you expecting from Gardner? And can you really
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  Speaker 1: expect what he did Sunday over and over again from
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  Speaker 1: a rookie. I don't know. No, I'm expecting him to
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  Speaker 1: be poised. I'm expecting him not to panic, which to
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  Speaker 1: me was the most impressive thing about what he did
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  Speaker 1: against the Chiefs. Um, but I mean it's asking a lot.
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  Speaker 1: This is a tough stretch on the schedule for them. Um.
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  Speaker 1: You know, teams are gonna have tape on Gardner Minshew. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna blitch the heck out of Gardner Minshew. And
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  Speaker 1: you know they're gonna have to rely on other guys
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  Speaker 1: to make plays. But the bigger problem is they may
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  Speaker 1: have to rely on Gardner Minshew to put up a
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  Speaker 1: ton of points if that defense is going to be
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  Speaker 1: what we saw week one, and that is really asking
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  Speaker 1: way too much of a rookie quarterback, a sixth round
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  Speaker 1: kid that you you never hope you you drafted with
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  Speaker 1: the hope he never played. It was so devastating seeing
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  Speaker 1: Nick get hurt because on the touchdown throw was everything
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  Speaker 1: that you'd hoped you'd see from when they signed him.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it was playing above the xs and ohs
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  Speaker 1: in terms of the decision. Uh, it was incredibly accurate throw. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And and then it's just it's it just devastates you
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  Speaker 1: to see, uh see him go down. For eight weeks.
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  Speaker 1: Having said that, I mean, I thought, you know, Gardner
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  Speaker 1: Minshew was incredible, and you know, they have been raved
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  Speaker 1: about Gardner Minshew's mental acumen since the day they drafted him,
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  Speaker 1: and I thought it was interesting today. Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Doug was asked about Gardner's ability to process and take
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  Speaker 1: things from the classroom and and and executed immediately out
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  Speaker 1: on the field, and Doug Moron compared it to a
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  Speaker 1: guy that can run a four three forty. I mean
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  Speaker 1: that speaks volumes. I mean there aren't a lot of
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  Speaker 1: guys in this league that run a four three forty.
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  Speaker 1: So if Doug Maron is basically saying, look, this is
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  Speaker 1: a gift, it's God given, and comparing it to something
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  Speaker 1: that very few players in the NFL can do, that's
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  Speaker 1: gotta at least give you some encouragement that Gardner Minshew
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  Speaker 1: can do enough that to Dorocco's point, if the defense
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  Speaker 1: does show improvement, maybe they can go four and four
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  Speaker 1: over the next dight and he can hand Nick Foles
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  Speaker 1: a team that's still in playoff contention. Comes Nick off
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  Speaker 1: the bench again like he's done in Philly the last
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  Speaker 1: couple of years. Hey's Carlin Tintin XL and Mike Roco ESPN.
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  Speaker 1: The problem though on defense this week, well, all these
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  Speaker 1: guys on the injury report, I mean they can God
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  Speaker 1: Quais not practicing on Wednesday, Lais Campbell is not practicing
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  Speaker 1: on Wednesday, Marcel Darius missed last week's game. He's still listed.
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  Speaker 1: What it looks like he's gonna try to go a
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  Speaker 1: little bit this week. You gotta get home on a
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  Speaker 1: quarterback at some point. And this is an offensive line
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  Speaker 1: that they, you know, feel like they can make hay On.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe that's a problem, right, I mean you mentioned a
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  Speaker 1: d rock last week given up forty guys are running free.
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  Speaker 1: But this week it's about boy getting in that backfield
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  Speaker 1: as a pass rush. Yeah, it's limiting the damage that
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  Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson is going to do. I mean, and we
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  Speaker 1: saw him. The problem with facing Deshaun Watson is even
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  Speaker 1: if you get home and you can get there and
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  Speaker 1: hit him, you still may not be able to do
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  Speaker 1: anything about what he does to you. We saw it
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  Speaker 1: against the Saints the other night. I mean, they battered
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  Speaker 1: the living heck out of him. And I saw a
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  Speaker 1: stat that he's been hit more times I guess this
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  Speaker 1: includes sax and everything, more times per game and his
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  Speaker 1: career than any other quarterback in the NFL. And and
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  Speaker 1: and they've still won the division and made the playoffs
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  Speaker 1: three in the last four years. Now. Obviously all wasn't
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  Speaker 1: with with DeShawn but they've got that first game in
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  Speaker 1: seventeen set the tone for this team. They got in
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  Speaker 1: there and when he got in they still were able
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  Speaker 1: to press on them. But that was his first game
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  Speaker 1: as a rookie. So I it's it should scare the
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  Speaker 1: heck out of you. Facing Deshaun Watson this week with
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  Speaker 1: a limited Unique and Gockway and a limited Calais camp scary.
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  Speaker 1: If they don't have Unnckway and Calais Campbell, then they
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  Speaker 1: have to win a shootout, I would imagine, and I
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  Speaker 1: think that's gonna be incredibly difficult. Uh, even if Gardner
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  Speaker 1: mins you plays well. So it's it's incredibly concerning. Hopefully
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  Speaker 1: they will be able to be active on on Sunday
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  Speaker 1: and get their normal snap counts. I you know, Doug
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  Speaker 1: Moron just compared DeShawn Watson to an m v P.
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  Speaker 1: I mean yeah, and look, I mean he had is
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  Speaker 1: as great as um Patrick Mahomes played Sunday against the Jaguars.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Deshaun Watson what he was able to do
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  Speaker 1: Monday night, executing a two play, seventy five yard touchdown
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  Speaker 1: drive and thirteen atck Ins on the road. That is
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  Speaker 1: the kind of thing, uh, that that wins you the
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  Speaker 1: m v P. If Bill O'Brien had put him at
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  Speaker 1: corner instead of Aaron Colvin, they probably win the game. Still,
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  Speaker 1: employed who knows At this point, Um, are you concerned
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  Speaker 1: about the all the extracurricular stuff last week? Is this
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a trend from this football team. I think
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  Speaker 1: it is a trend until they show six seven games
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  Speaker 1: where nothing happens. And and that's the thing. Like, I
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  Speaker 1: like that Myles Jack owned it. Uh. I like that
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  Speaker 1: he stuck around and and you know, wanted to meet
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  Speaker 1: with the media so that he could apologize for it. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And you know that's what that's that's a that's a
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  Speaker 1: great sign that it won't happen again. But I think
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  Speaker 1: now it's there's just too much evidence that says that
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  Speaker 1: this is a team that loses it's cool too often.
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  Speaker 1: So if we can get to November without any other
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  Speaker 1: you know, instances of it, then yeah, I'll start believing
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  Speaker 1: that they are becoming more of a discipline team. But like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the holding penalties, I can understand that. You know,
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  Speaker 1: that's particularly from Juwan Taylor's football. Yeah, that's football. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, the fighting, getting ejected, that's just things that
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  Speaker 1: that can't happen. And so I think until we see
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  Speaker 1: a long you know, a long period where there's no
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  Speaker 1: instances of it, it's hard to believe that they have
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  Speaker 1: learned their lesson and they're going to play discipline football. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this is the recommend It's a defense that plays with
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  Speaker 1: a lot of swagger and all that. When it's going well,
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  Speaker 1: that's fine. When you're down two or three touchdowns and
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  Speaker 1: you're taunting guys, that's kind of the book on this team.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes it doesn't go well. Yeah, and and look, I
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  Speaker 1: actually wrote it today, this this team's discipline problem. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I looked it up. And when it comes to discipline penalties,
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  Speaker 1: which is you know, face mask, personal files, taunting, that
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  Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Um, they lead the NFL and those
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  Speaker 1: penalties since two thousand eighteen started and that's nineteen by
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  Speaker 1: the defense, and only Miami has had more, um fifty
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  Speaker 1: discipline penalties third motion the league since two thousand and seventeen,
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  Speaker 1: and thirty six of those have come from the defense.
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  Speaker 1: That's a problem. Now you overlook it, and fans overlooked it,
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  Speaker 1: and no one really cared when they were doing well.
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  Speaker 1: Go in ten and six and two thousand and seventeen.
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  Speaker 1: But it's a problem they did and we just didn't
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  Speaker 1: really concentrate on it. But yeah, that's who they are.
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  Speaker 1: They're an undisciplined team. There's gonna be taunting penalties. They're
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  Speaker 1: one of the I think four or five teams that
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  Speaker 1: have had two guys ejected from a game in the
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  Speaker 1: last two seats or from the start of two thousand
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  Speaker 1: eighteen to now. I mean, that's who they are. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: and for anyone to think that it's not that it's
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  Speaker 1: going to change and they're not going to be that way,
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  Speaker 1: that you don't have that much of a track record,
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  Speaker 1: and then flip it off. So that's who they are,
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  Speaker 1: and they're going to have to find a way to
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  Speaker 1: overcome that to win games, especially if you're dealing with
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  Speaker 1: some quarterback issues. Alright, boys ahead and here we go. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: let's take the show of the road this week. Right,
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  Speaker 1: hey's Caroline, Mike Duracco. Thanks, guys, appreciate what We'll see
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  Speaker 1: you next time when the Jaguars media around table