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NFL Draft Middle 1st Round Recap: Caleb Downs to Dallas, Reuben Bain to Tampa, Kenyon Sadiq to New York! · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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I want to say something thing, there are a ton, and I'll say
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this again, there are a ton of draft parties all over the
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network, all over their networks.
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We got the NFL, we got ESPN, we've got WFAN.
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Everybody has their draft party. Everybody's doing this and I
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think they're all lame and boring.
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And if you haven't checked out our draft party every single
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year, we're unique. We're going to have a lot of
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special guest. We're going to go crazy.
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We're going to entertain you guys throughout the show.
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It is not going to be a boring show.
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I promise you guys this, anybody that's going to be listening to
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us for the next 5 1/2 hours, we will entertain you.
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We will go in and out of every single talented player in this
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year's draft. We'll go crazy.
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We'll give you our take. So it there's a lot, there's a
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lot to get into. But anyways, we have Quinton
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Couples, he's in. He popped in.
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Dessert. Probably eating dinner with his
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family. That's what he got.
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I was actually in the wrong link like I was.
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It was the meat from like Tuesday or something, the wrong
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link. So therefore I was like you sure
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I'm I'm early that early. You look a little tired.
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Is this, is this something to do with The Jets picking at, you
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know, 42? 2:15 Maybe this is We're on the
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brinks of going into the playoffs.
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Oh God, here we go again. Season.
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Here we go again. So we're on the brinks of making
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two good pitch tonight, and then we'll see where the chips fall
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for the rest of the weekend. But for right now, these two
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pitchs is going to dictate where we go ahead in the playoffs.
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We maybe just go into the playoffs tonight or we might end
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up little, you know, winning one or two games in the past.
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He's got the, he got the, he's got that Southern accent.
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Playoffs, playoffs, playoffs, you know, we call it playoffs.
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That's what we do. Playoffs off.
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You got to put the awe in it. You know the off because we like
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to flow Playoffs, playoffs or playoffs, playoffs.
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Here we finally have another defensive guest for you, We got
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a Trevor Price. I'm I'm liking it, Trevor.
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I like the great beer. I like it.
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You look good, man. You appreciate it, I mean.
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Age doesn't stop for anybody. Age before beauty, as you as as
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Q always says, you know. Absolutely.
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But hey Trevor, what are your thoughts right now?
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1st 10 picks. The Giants, by the way, draft
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France and Mongoa. So what are your thoughts?
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Caleb Downs is still not drafting.
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I I know that. I know that kid Francis.
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My son went to IMG where he played football and I remember
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seeing him as a high school senior and I was like, this is
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this is they actually had IMG actually, they had him on one
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side of the offensive line. And I swear to God they had
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another kid that was twice his size that was hurt.
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And I never, I never forget him, but I remember he was messed
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with. My son, my son was a linebacker
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at the time. Now he plays baseball.
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But I remember him and I remember, look at him and I was
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like, this kid's gonna be a first round pick.
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And here he is on my TV screen. And that's.
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Not. Dallas on the clock.
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Oh, they trade it up. Oh, you know where they're
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going. Ruben Bayne.
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That's who I think they're going with.
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I I that's Ruben Bayne. Seems makes a lot of sense for
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the for the Dallas Cowboys after losing Michael Parsons.
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They're saying Ruben is going to fall.
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And I'm going to tell you this right now, if The Jets are
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drafting at 16, I'm taking Ruben Bayne.
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I'm I'm, I'm yeah, I'm doing it. I'm here's Love the flash.
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I'm doing. I'm doing it.
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Dallas moves up one spot, one spot with the Dolphins, gives
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them two sixth round picks, 177 and 180 to get it done.
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I guess they were doing a good job of threatening Jerry Jones.
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Oh, we'll trade him for this. It looks like Jerry's like, oh,
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you know. Caleb down 5.
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Let's get. Let's go get.
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James still hasn't. Been been said yet who it is.
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Still not revealed who it is yet, Caleb.
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Yeah, but I said he ain't dropped because he he was
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supposed to be the number one. This kid is, he's an NFL player,
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you know? The thing is a lot of a lot of a
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lot of first round picks or even in late round picks and not NFL
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players man and like it. It happens.
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You see it all the time. Damn Jones, what are you doing,
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Jerry? Errol likes Jerry Jones.
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I like. Jerry Elephant Man, you don't
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even know about Jerry Man. Jerry's wow.
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Well, here's the thing and I I've after getting a chance to
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watch the documentary, I knew a lot about Jerry, but I didn't
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realize how important he has been for the NFL in the growth
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of, you know, endorsing and sponsorships.
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He has really helped drive the game the way he has.
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So I, I didn't know that I I knew a lot about him.
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I was a kid when I was watching the Cowboys dominate in the 90s.
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And we all know what the Cowboys have been over the last couple
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of years, actually over the last decade.
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But by the way, just want to let everybody know we have
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linebacker Jamie Winborn and we have John.
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I'm not, we don't. Trevor Price defensive and
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Trevor Price in and offensive tackle John Feeney in and
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joining our draft party where we have downs.
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I would think. We think.
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It's the pick is in who is and it is Caleb Downs.
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Yeah. Safety.
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Yeah, State goes to Dallas. Look at, look at JB.
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That'd be good. So now I have to see him twice a
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year. Beautiful.
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That's a damn good pick. Look at Jamie Whitford.
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No, it is. Anyway.
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But that's a damn good pick. John.
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John, your thoughts, Mr. Feeney? Yeah, you know, I, I love the
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draft just because you never know what the hell is coming
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next, right? You got your favorite team.
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You kind of hope your guys around when they come.
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I I thought it was pretty interesting that the Chiefs gave
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up a bunch of stuff to go replace Mcduffie.
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I thought that was a good play by them.
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I'm not a big fan, of course, being a Bills fan.
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And then the rest of it is all just conjecture, but I'd like to
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see those big guys go early. You know, I got a big guy in the
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next room who's who's either going to get drafted on day
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three or, you know, sign as a free agent.
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It's got about 6-7 teams, you know, talking to him right now.
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Congratulations. It's pretty exciting in the FINA
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household. So we're not sure where Bruno's
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going to end up, but. Good luck.
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He's he's had some pretty exciting conversations and you
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know, I live in Arizona. I'm hoping it's a one flight
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away there. Aren't that many?
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Teams that are one flight away, do you want?
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To go to that team that hasn't developed off until I'm in very
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well though. Oh, Vegas.
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He's talking about Vegas, OK? He's talking about Vegas.
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I got another one too. He's he's a freshman at Duke on
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the O line. So oh.
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Man. One hopefully playing in the NFL
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next year and 11 getting ready. Yeah.
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We got AD lineman from UNC on this show right here.
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Not a fan of Duke offensive line.
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Trevor, Trevor, what are your thoughts?
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Made the best happen for. You UNCUNCI think we refer to
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them as either Chapel Hill College.
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Or you guys got it, you got it. You got rhythm now you got a
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little mother. It's been, it's been for
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helping. You guys been terrible for 100
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years, now the last two years you really feel good about
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yourself. Hey, we hey, we run the state.
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Duke football runs the state of North.
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Carolina as of now. Congratulations.
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You were the one that was objecting against Belichick the
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first time we had you on the show.
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Like better take as the pig, but you know, I'm not going to shy
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away from. Man, he's the best.
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I have a. History.
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Going way. Back for pros for sure.
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I respect his knowledge in his brain by far.
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Yeah. I think he's a good coach
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overall. I just don't think he fit with
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the college. Trevor, I don't.
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Know where the count is going on.
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Now, Trevor, what are your what are your thought about what did
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you think about Caleb Downs going to the Cowboys?
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He's a safety and conjecture is a, is a real thing, man.
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I just, I and I think I've watched so many draft picks come
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and go and kid is a good player. I've watched him play before.
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You're watching play with. So he's a real good player.
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But you know how you use them and those type of things.
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I was, I was listening to the other kid of our state
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linebacker saying, oh, they're going to use me this way and
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that way. Let me be very clear.
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You have no idea. Let me be very clear to you,
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that's not going to. Happen.
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Oh, I'm like, wait a minute, man, what the hell is in this
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place? None of none of that's going to
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happen. I know I'm not the only one, am
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I? Yeah, at all.
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You could have said it more clear.
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Not, not going to happen. Who said that?
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Was it Sonny Styles or was it R Val Reese?
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Whichever one, whichever one walked up to the stage like, oh,
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they'll amuse me this way and that way.
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No, you got B gaps. It's got to be R Val Reese.
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It's got to be Reese. No no R Val Reese saying B gap
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he's going to be AC gap player. He's got whatever.
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He, whatever he is, they're going, they said they're going
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to be real creative of me. You have that gap, you go do
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that. They talk all kind of crazy to
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every player. Oh, and everybody's excited in
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April. Come August, you got B gap son,
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they repeat. What the GAS and assistant
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coaches are telling them during that process, you know, when
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they're trying to sell them and you're right here, we have to
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be. Flying all around, you're going
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to stand up guy, you're. Going to be 9 you're.
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Going to be. You got no responsibilities, you
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just get to run around and be an athlete.
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And incorrect son B gap. That is incorrect, son.
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That's incorrect. All right, so we have the LA
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Rams on the clock. Do they go quarterback?
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No, no, it's the Dolphins. Oh, it's the dolphins.
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Oh, so the Dolphins are the clock.
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All right, so they. Turn it.
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Down. All right, so we have the
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Dolphins. Man, their colors are almost as
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bad as chap. I mean, they go BAE, you know,
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Wait. Every day you wake up, you look
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in the sky. My daughter's Carolina.
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My daughter goes to do come with you you.
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Know who? The Lord, When we wake up in the
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morning, we look at that sky. He's a big safety.
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Yeah, Son, you're playing linebacker.
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You got B gap. Son, you got B gap.
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I didn't believe all this nonsense, man.
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NFL is a different beast. Look how wide this kid.
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Look how wide this kid is. So where do so where does the
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Miami go? Where's Miami, Miami, Miami,
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Where does Miami go in the draft?
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They they need a lot of positions.
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They need a lot of. Somebody to take, They need
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somebody to take the B gap. They need to go thing, yeah.
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You need some. People in the stands you need,
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you need everything you know, that's hometown, hometown.
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All of that What happened, Fish? Something happened.
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That's a good. No, somebody, somebody just
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posted something that doesn't make sense that the Rams pick
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before the 12th pick. It has to be some kind of fake
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thing. Someone's trying to mess with
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people online right now. Well they take it forever.
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Miami been on the clock for like 12 minutes.
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Yeah, they have. Dolphins.
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Well, they traded back, so they're on again.
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Wait, they made a pick and they got.
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They're saying, they're saying the Dolphins pick is in and Rams
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are on the clock now. So I know, but there's no
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posting of the Dolphins pick anywhere yet.
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Interesting. Which handle are you following
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on Twitter? Kevin.
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Durant NFL accounts. Ari Merov.
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NFL parody account. Oh my God.
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All right, so hold on. I got to find this.
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Where the hell is this? Yeah, Ari's pretty legit.
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That's surprising. No, I think it's true because
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Jay Glazer said it too. Ty Simpson is going to be
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drafted. Very.
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Miami. Interesting.
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But it wasn't Miami that they said.
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It's the. Rams, it's the Rams we.
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Just guess it. But how come?
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How come I don't see anything on?
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Maybe the Dolphins ran out of time.
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Really. That'd be funny, but they lost
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their pick because they ran out of time.
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Wouldn't that be fun? No way.
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That'd be the no their. Picks.
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No, their pick is in it says their.
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Pick is in. I see, I see what it says.
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I'll put it up there, but I'm telling you make.
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Any sense you're not going to lose your pick that's.
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Great. No, right?
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Unless they have a. Spike in O3.
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They said the Rams and they meant.
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Could you imagine, though, that would totally be a New Jersey
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Jets? Thing.
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Missed the timing? You take your pick away.
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John, I hate you. I hate.
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You tonight, what are you doing? You're making fun of my size
15:09
tonight, Now you're making fun of my team.
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What else is new? I told.
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You the first time we had it on you guys, you 2 had a great
15:15
debate about Aaron Rodgers. John, you know what?
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I'm going to wear The Jets hat forward now.
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Just a pitch I want to be. Honest with you.
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Just a pitch. You all can respect your
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diligence in being a Jets fan for this many years.
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I mean that that takes a lot of perseverance.
15:29
Errol, just wait. We have, we have Jonas Gray,
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former Patriots running back, coming in in a couple minutes.
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Great. Imagine.
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Great. I, I've been, I've been back and
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forth with you guys for years. I mean, attacking, it seems like
15:40
everybody that comes on their show, they like to make fun of
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The Jets. Quinn, you got to help me here,
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man. Easy target.
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How about you just wait? How about you, Trevor?
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We're going. To get the last laugh.
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Jennifer, I need your help here man.
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We're going to the payoff this year, man.
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Yeah, you were a Jet. You were a.
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Jet Wait, wait, wait, wait. We were saying that.
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Did you see where Jets? Are going to The Jets are going
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to the playoffs this year. No.
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That's what he said, that's what he said.
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Because I didn't. I didn't know tickets were on
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sale to the games yet. That's the only way we already.
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Started We started off on the thing already, but.
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You know, it's cyclical, man. It's possible now.
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They'll get good. They'll be good before we all
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die. Before before we all die.
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They'll get good. Thank you, Trevor.
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By the way, at 13. Lake Willis.
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The Rams are going. They're going with Ty Simpson,
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that's where. Can we talk about that?
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Because I don't get that at all. The Rams are going to, they're
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going to have a quarterback that's going to sit behind
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Matthew Stafford for a year, and then they have a quarterback
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that they can move forward with because Matthew Stafford might
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have another year, another two years left at best.
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And yeah, that's what they're saying.
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Who? Came off of MVP here.
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Yeah, they're saying Matthew Stafford already said that he
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doesn't have, he doesn't see himself playing that much
16:55
longer. They they did an interview with
16:57
him recently and and Matthew Stafford says he could play
17:00
another year. He wants to win another Super
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Bowl, maybe 2, but he wants to, he wants to get a chance to
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spend time with his daughter. So I think Ty Simpson, he will
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be in as the starting quarterback after this year.
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I think Matthew Stafford's there for one more year and he's going
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to retire. That's what I think.
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He's going to be 39. I got him down for two to three
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more years. He's just saying that to keep
17:18
them checks, rolling them short checks than one or two year
17:20
checks. I can't believe it, man.
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I really can't. For me, like we watched him in
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the in the College Football Playoff and once he had pressure
17:28
in his face, he wasn't the cool, calm quarterback making great
17:31
throws like we saw in the beginning.
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Stop. It really depends on coaching.
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And I think that if you put Ty Simpson with Sean McVeigh, let
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him learn the offense, let him figure it out because I'm sure
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it's a lot to take in, You give him a chance to understand
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what's going on around him for a year.
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I think he'll be fine. We're on to #13 we're waiting
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for the Rams to pick. I and by the way, Kaden Proctor,
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it's interesting. I didn't think Kaden Proctor was
17:57
a top 15 pick. I think he was going to fall
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because a lot of people thought he has great size, but a lot of
18:03
people don't think he's a tackle in the league.
18:05
Some people think he's more of a guard.
18:06
So and, and people thought he was going to fall and drop in
18:09
this draft, but he's also in an Alabama Crimson Tide offensive
18:13
lineman. We've seen those guys as do we
18:15
know the Giants drafted one in Evan Neil, who failed to be the
18:18
player that they thought he was going to be early in the draft a
18:20
couple of years ago. So I'm interested to see what
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the Rams and and moving forward, how this draft is falling
18:28
because it to me, there's a lot of you.
18:31
Look at him and and you think maybe if he drops a few pounds
18:35
he can play a little bit more tackle.
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But you know, there have been there have been big guys playing
18:39
guards straight away that, you know, played tackle in college.
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I think he does have some position flexibility.
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If he, you know, if he drops 1020 lbs, you know, he might be
18:49
able to stay at that tackle spot.
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But I think there is a concern around the edge especially, you
18:54
know, these guys coming off the edge now, they're just the most
18:58
insane athletes right there. Bend their speed, their arm
19:02
length, their strength. So he he does potentially
19:06
struggle with guys like that at the next level where you're
19:09
facing them week in and week out.
19:11
But if he could just work on that, set a little bit, drop a
19:13
few pounds, you know, he might stick a tackle for a little
19:15
while longer. Yeah.
19:17
And and again, going back to what we heard about Kaden
19:19
Proctor is he's got big hands. He's he's got that size.
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I know Q was talking about him when we were talking about the
19:26
draft and we thought he was in the 20s, he was going to fall
19:29
into the 20s, maybe a late first round, early second round pick.
19:33
But he's got the potential because of his size and his
19:36
ability, and he was very good in the run.
19:39
So I'm interested to see how this is going to fall for the
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again, we were talking about who's going to be the
19:44
quarterback on this team who is going to be throwing the ball
19:47
this year for the Dolphins. That's that's the question.
19:50
You and Willis Lyman, I I don't know, Malik Willis, who you
19:54
overpaid. That makes no sense.
19:57
It was good as a backup for the. Backup, not a starting
20:00
quarterback in the AFC East. You got to play the Buffalo
20:03
Bills, you got to play the New England Patriots, you got to
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play the New York Jets twice a year.
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So it doesn't make any sense. I, I think that's a bad move.
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By the way, congratulations, the Rams got their quarterback of
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the future. Jersey Jets.
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OK, OK. All right.
20:18
It's the New York Jets. Stop with your Buffalo Bills,
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all right? Stop it.
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I know you're a Buffalo Bills fan and I like Josh Allen.
20:26
Just saying bro, they are. They play their games.
20:28
They play their games in Jersey. I like Josh Allen too.
20:32
I like Josh. Allen too.
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Well, I looked. I went to College in Buffalo
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myself, and I know you guys like to call yourselves WNY up there
20:42
as well, not just NY. So let's just stop throwing
20:46
stones at the Meadowlands. It's 20 miles away.
20:49
It's not far. OK.
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Did you go to buff state or Kenisha?
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UB I went to UB dye. College.
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Went to UB, got to see one winning season my last year
21:04
there, but there was a pretty hairy for a lot of the time.
21:07
But just quickly about Ty Simpson.
21:09
Apparently it was the biggest open secret in the NFL that they
21:14
love Ty Simpson and that they were going to take him.
21:17
They told Matthew Stafford earlier today that they were
21:20
going to take him for whenever it is that he decides to hang it
21:23
up. And I'm going to tell you this
21:24
right now, I think it's a great move for the Rams because I
21:27
think 2 years, a year behind Matthew Stafford, learning with
21:31
Sean McVeigh, I think it's a slam dunk.
21:33
And, and again, I told everybody, I told a lot of Jet
21:35
fans on social media because a lot of Jet fans thought Ty
21:39
Simpson falls to The Jets. They're drafting Ty Simpson,
21:41
which I believe that that could have been possibly an
21:45
opportunity or if he fell into the 20's, The Jets would have
21:48
moved up to get them at 2324 or somewhere.
21:52
And that because they have two second round draft picks and
21:54
they got a couple of firsts next year.
21:55
I did not think he was going to fall past the Rams.
21:58
I, I knew the Rams were interested in him.
22:00
I don't think it was a surprise secret.
22:02
Sean Mcveigh's looking for the quarterback of the future.
22:04
Now he has Matthew Stafford for the for a year or two and you
22:08
have a quarterback that can learn behind him.
22:10
I, I love his footwork. I love his arm strength.
22:13
Give him a couple of years under Sean Mcveigh's offense.
22:15
I think the kids going to be a nice player.
22:16
Errol, we got a couple of picks left before The Jets make their
22:19
second pick. After The Jets make their second
22:21
pick, we'll take I think our only break of the night for a
22:23
couple couple of minutes, but The Jets have quite an
22:26
opportunity in front of them right now.
22:28
Yes, they do Ruben, Ruben Bain is on the on the board still.
22:31
Yep, that is really interesting. I, I, I mean, you know, I
22:35
thought that just technique wise he Jason Taylor was his line
22:39
coach in college, obviously went all the way to the last game of
22:42
the season. He had a sack of Mendoza in the
22:44
championship game. We've talked about it ad
22:45
nauseam. Shorter arms plays a different
22:48
style of game. He tries to get into your chest.
22:50
He doesn't have the ability to do get that space because he
22:53
doesn't have that same arm length.
22:54
But he's got all the moves and he knows how to use them already
22:59
as a young guy, he's only going to get better.
23:00
You would think led the collagen pressures and all these counting
23:04
stats, he's there. It feels like The Jets would.
23:08
Happen I I love Ruben Bayne and if The Jets decide to go
23:11
defensive line again I know a lot of people say include
23:13
including Q say why go for another you never have enough
23:16
defensive lineman and when you're when you add because you
23:19
have barely on one side The Jets problem over the years on the
23:22
defensive side of the pole is pass rushers pass rushers they.
23:26
Love the NFL where a third round quarterback can go in the first
23:30
round. It's a beautiful.
23:31
Thing, isn't it? I don't think he's, I don't
23:33
think he's a third round quarterback.
23:35
I think he's going to be a really good quarterback in this
23:36
league. I really do.
23:39
I I really, really do. I like his footwork and I like.
23:41
His you think? He's 100% why not?
23:45
But if you were looking at his like raw talent, you wouldn't
23:47
say that. Like he's got average arm
23:49
strength, he's got average. He's.
23:52
Well, let me tell you something about Patrick Mahomes.
23:55
When he was drafted, everybody was saying he has great arm
23:58
strength, but there was a lot of questions to Patrick Mahomes.
24:01
They didn't think that he he saw the field when he came into the
24:04
league. They they thought that maybe
24:05
behind under Andy Reid. Andy Reid traded up with the
24:08
Buffalo Bills, but a lot of people, except Boomer Asaison, a
24:11
lot of people didn't think he was a top 15 quarterback.
24:14
They thought he was a maybe a late first round, early second
24:17
round pick. Kansas City jumped because they
24:20
loved his strength and Andy Reid knew that that he had Smith
24:23
starting at over him and he can learn behind Smith and then
24:26
eventually take over, which he did at the tail end of the
24:29
season. I, I just, you can't, you don't
24:32
understand how and why people decide to go with certain
24:35
players. But I can tell you this, I trust
24:37
Sean McVeigh. I, I trust Sean McVeigh when it
24:40
comes to developing quarterbacks.
24:42
And I think that a couple of years behind Sean McVeigh and
24:45
Matthew Stafford, this kids going to be a good quarterback
24:48
in the league. I think you guys are wrong about
24:49
him. I think he's going to be
24:50
special. I I really do like his footwork
24:53
and I love his arm strength. So arm strength, so.
24:56
I don't think nobody was doubting potential.
24:58
We saying he's not a top ten team?
24:59
I disagree. I think that he could be.
25:03
I disagree. You don't know what these guys.
25:04
Got we got a selection for the Ravens at 14.
25:08
Where are they going? I would argue the most Ravens E
25:11
pick they could have made. Who do they get?
25:15
Anyone want to guess before I tell you?
25:16
Reuben Bay. Not a Ravens E pick, no Oh
25:21
lineman. Oh lineman is right and it is
25:23
the guard from Penn State. There it is.
25:25
I own a Vega. I that's a that's a good move
25:27
for them. He's mean.
25:29
That's a great move. I like it big.
25:33
Wait, what do you mean? So now you get to put that guy
25:35
to block for Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson?
25:38
Yeah, I think I do that. By the way, we got another guy
25:40
joining us. We have Capri Bibs joining us.
25:44
What's up, Capri? What's up big guy?
25:47
How you doing? How you guys doing?
25:48
What's? Good.
25:49
How are you? Doing great, doing great.
25:52
I'm excited to join you guys. We're happy you joined us.
25:55
I know you're a busy guy and he's a running back.
25:57
What did you think about Jeremiah Love?
26:01
Hey, I think he obviously was the most talented back inside of
26:04
this draft. And you know, I I thought it
26:07
definitely would be a sleeper see him fall out of that top
26:10
five S to see him fall where he fell in Arizona.
26:13
Then looking for that next James Conner, right.
26:17
I think he's a perfect pig for them.
26:19
I, I loved Jeremiah love. I again, I went to the Heisman
26:22
dinner. He seemed like a really down to
26:24
earth kid. He spoke to the media, very
26:26
respected and respectable to the, the, the media and he had,
26:31
he didn't speak a lot until the media asked him questions, but
26:34
he was pretty straightforward with the questions and the
26:37
answer. So I loved I, I loved everything
26:40
about the kid. So I think he's going to be a
26:42
great play. I think he's the best offensive
26:43
player in this draft. He's going to be explosive.
26:46
He's the closest thing to Saquan Barkley we've seen come out of
26:49
the draft all these years, so I love him.
26:53
Yeah, that's a tall order there. Yeah, that's that's that's a
26:57
tall order. Why do?
26:58
You go so far, What do you make go so far?
27:03
So far, yes. What?
27:06
What's going so far? This guy dominated college
27:09
football last year. He's a great running back
27:13
back-to-back years. He didn't make the playoffs
27:15
because he got screwed. That's why Notre Dame got
27:19
screwed. You're going to tell me they
27:20
didn't, Oh, stop with this, stop with this.
27:25
What are you trying to throw at me?
27:26
And by the way, I'd like to thank Jamie Winborn, Bruno
27:30
Giacomini, John Jansen, Trevor Price, John Fina joining us.
27:34
And now we have Capri bibs. He's joining us and we really
27:37
appreciate him, appreciate him joining us on our on our draft
27:41
party. And it's great.
27:42
And and it's crazy when you look at all these NFL players that
27:45
we've had on the show and and moving forward, we have a couple
27:48
more that's going to join us as we move forward in this this
27:51
fast draft. It's going fast.
27:53
What are we? Yeah, it's going.
27:56
Where we thought it was going to be actually, there's a lot of
27:59
action, you know, a couple of trades in the top 15.
28:02
It's been interesting for sure. I can't believe, I mean, Joe
28:04
Shane came out already said that Arvel Reese was the top player
28:08
on their board totally. And they had, could not believe
28:11
he was there at 5:00. That's what Joe Shane said.
28:14
Well, good for him. How much I believe Joe Shane
28:16
though. Good for him.
28:17
I mean, he better hope he's the best player and he was their
28:20
favorite player on the board because if he fails to get this
28:23
this right this year, he's going to be looking for a new job
28:29
because I think that's where it's heading.
28:31
I, I like the offensive line. I like the move bringing the
28:34
offensive lineman in. I like Magoa.
28:37
I I think he's perfect. I think he fits what the giants
28:40
need on that offensive line to protect Jackson dart.
28:44
And again, they need to solidify that offensive line.
28:46
I don't care where they were ranked last year, there was a
28:49
lot of pieces being moved and when Thomas came back, that line
28:53
started to play well. They need a significant piece to
28:57
add to that line and they added an offensive tackle, a right
29:00
tackle who they can honestly move on the left and right guard
29:02
if need be. I I think it's a great move for
29:04
the Giants. Jets are on the clock.
29:06
The pick is in for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
29:09
Who did they draft? Well, it looks like The Jets
29:12
will not get to get Ruben Bayne because he is going one pick
29:15
before them to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to stay in Florida.
29:19
Others move. State that's a good move,
29:21
that's. Their biggest need at Drawshark?
29:23
That's bad, yeah. That's a good move for them.
29:25
Nobody's going to complain about that.
29:27
So where did the? Jets.
29:29
Where? Where did The Jets go?
29:31
Well, Makai Lemon is available right now.
29:34
The slot receiver from USC. You know, some comparisons to
29:38
Aman Ross St. Brown.
29:39
I like. I like.
29:40
Him right, like he's a, he's a pretty big time receiver.
29:43
He's probably the last of the the big time receivers.
29:46
There's some other gadgety guys that might go later in the first
29:48
round. The Jets have been tied to Omar
29:52
Cooper Junior and a lot of drafts as well.
29:54
Too high, they like him. Too high.
29:57
I saw that. And the most recent, like the
29:59
day of mock draft from the athletic guy that we were using,
30:03
Dame Bruegler, he had him going at 16.
30:05
He's not going, he's not going 16 to the JC.
30:09
But that's 15 in USA. He too.
30:12
Yeah, they're not sure. We did say that.
30:16
Dude, there's a lot of people that say a lot of stupid things,
30:19
all right? That covers your case.
30:24
Well, I'll tell you this. You say that Ty Simpson's not
30:27
going to be a good quarterback. You're wrong.
30:29
You're damn wrong about that. Your first opinion is for him to
30:33
sit behind. Yeah, Matthew Stafford for a
30:35
year. That doesn't scream good
30:37
quarterback. What do you mean it doesn't
30:38
scream? They have a they have a Super
30:40
Bowl quarterback. They've got a great team, a
30:42
built a well built machine. If they win the Super Bowl next
30:45
year, you know Matthews and they're going to be one of the
30:46
favorites. Matthew Stafford is probably
30:49
going to retire and they're going to bring Ty Simpson in.
30:52
I think it's a great move by. Them, But Errol, This is what
30:54
the the Packers did with Aaron Rodgers.
30:56
They drafted Jordan Love for four years down the road and
30:59
then didn't give him a top of the first round pick so they
31:03
could win with him, Give someone to Stafford to win with, make
31:07
them better now so. They don't need anything.
31:09
The Hall of Fame, they don't need anything.
31:12
They have Devante Adams there. They got a great offense.
31:14
They got. Well, they got to beat that
31:15
Seahawks team. They'll they'll be fine.
31:17
They'll be fine. They need to Mcduffie.
31:18
They needed help on that corner, that corner position they had to
31:21
Mcduffie. They don't need, they don't have
31:23
any more weaknesses. I'm going to tell you right now.
31:26
I Simpson filled everything. Up I think I think they're
31:29
perfect I'm. It's a cocky move though, don't
31:31
you? I think that's a very bold move
31:34
for. Sure.
31:35
To go Ty Simpson, I just think there there are a lot of great
31:39
picks inside of the draft still that could definitely help
31:42
Matthew Stafford right now. But to see Ty Simpson, I didn't
31:45
know he was a guy that you want to see develop like that.
31:48
Yeah, way later. Yeah, I think so as.
31:51
Well, nobody was in a rush to get.
31:53
Ty Simpson I disagree. I think The Jets were very
31:55
interested. I only you, Pittsburgh.
31:57
Steelers were interested. I know I've heard the Steelers
32:00
were interviewing and they viewed him a couple of times.
32:02
They liked him. If he fell to the Steelers, I I
32:04
wouldn't doubt it. Who's the who's the quarterback
32:06
for the Steelers this year? Big mouth, Mr. Q Aaron Rodgers,
32:10
he hasn't even come out and said that he's coming back.
32:13
He has not said he was coming back.
32:16
What kind of argument is this? Hey, so, so where are you
32:20
hearing this? Is this from the?
32:21
Shoe. Website he's.
32:25
He's hibernating. Yeah.
32:29
It's like a surprise. What's he?
32:32
What's he in Africa right now smoking the ganja?
32:35
And what? What the hell is?
32:37
He doing. I mean I mean seriously, he's
32:41
married to his so-called wife named Brittany.
32:43
He probably married his hand as he named his wife his aunt.
32:48
I. Mean nobody's seen his damn wife
32:51
his best. Friend.
32:52
Ever even seen him? It is a mystery.
32:54
It is kind of a mystery. Nobody's met his wife.
32:57
Nobody. But he has a wife named
32:59
Brittany. Oh, that's all he said.
33:00
My wife's. Name is Brittany.
33:02
Yeah, he's got his hand all. You're going to do is tear it
33:04
down either way. I got to go back off now do.
33:07
You want to drop it off. She's just using up for Monday,
33:10
that's all y'all go talk about. Breaking news.
33:15
It's good he does a good job. Rewarded man for keeping.
33:18
Breaking news You want to jerk me?
33:20
Okay, the pic is in for The Jets.
33:22
Let's hear it. We got.
33:23
Who do we got? So it is an offensive player
33:27
that you like, Errol? OK, who do we got Sadiq?
33:29
Tight end from Oregon. Oh, I'm loving it.
33:34
I am absolutely excited. This is a great move, great move
33:39
by the New York Jets. I love it because what what they
33:42
could do with him now? They got 2 tight ends.
33:45
They're going to play with two tight ends.
33:46
Mason will be the the tight end. They're going to move Sadiq to
33:49
the wide receiver position. He's big, he's strong, he can
33:52
run. He's a very good route runner.
33:54
I think this is a great move for the New York Jets.
33:56
Great move. And I think he he to me, a lot
33:59
of people thought he was one of the most explosive offensive
34:02
talents in this draft class. I'm very surprised he was
34:05
sitting there at 16. What do you mean, Jeremiah?
34:07
Love was. What do you mean, Jeremiah?
34:10
Yes, I like Jeremiah. I'm not saying.
34:12
Me. I'm not saying me, a lot of
34:14
people thought Sadiq was the most explosive talent in this
34:19
draft class. A lot of people love this kid.
34:22
And now you have two tight ends. And, and here's another thing
34:25
with The Jets and, and how the NFL has changed so very
34:28
differently. And the, and I, I blame the
34:30
Patriots, O'Brien the way the Patriots ran their, their
34:33
offense, they, they played that two tight end type of, you know,
34:37
style. And now there's a lot of teams
34:39
doing it. And now you have Mason Taylor on
34:41
one side and you have Sadiq on the other.
34:43
You need those weapons. Geno Smith is needs it.
34:46
And by the way, you were saying that The Jets are making the
34:48
playoffs. They need those weapons to get
34:50
the ball in the end zone. This guy is the best red zone
34:53
target in this class. It's not even.
34:55
Am I right, Speedy? Yeah.
34:57
He's a guy that has also a really good blocker too.
34:59
You can versatile like it's definitely.
35:02
Oregon was using him in the backfield a lot too, because
35:04
they also had Jelani Johnson too, is also a good tight end.
35:07
So there's definitely an element of versatility that you could
35:09
see, like Arizona uses with Trey McBride, that maybe you can get
35:12
another level out of. I love this trade.
35:14
I mean, I love this pick. I said trade.
35:16
I love this pick. I think it's great.
35:18
How about you, Capri? What do you think about Sadiq
35:21
and the talent that he is? I just wanted to see if we are
35:24
actually loving on the just offense as much as we're saying
35:27
we're loving on it. Because the quarterback position
35:31
to me for them is I think it's an important position throughout
35:34
the whole entire NFL. But even in this case, I just
35:38
feel like The Jets still have a bunch of holes that they need
35:41
that they need to fix before, you know, I can get excited
35:45
about a tight end. I'm just going to be honest.
35:47
In the first round all. Right, Brock Bowers.
35:52
He was the first round talent. What is Brock Bowers?
35:56
I mean, but, but I mean, we're talking about Brock Bowers.
35:59
Though all right and. And they're saying, they're
36:02
saying we look at Brock Bowers, we've seen game changing
36:05
ability. We're talking about everything
36:07
is on him almost. Even at Georgia.
36:09
We really didn't care about anything else.
36:12
Did you? Watch did you did you watch
36:14
organ this year? Because I'm sorry, what Kenyon
36:18
Sadiq did this year offensively, he was almost unstoppable.
36:21
And he did it against top, top ten, top talent, all defenses.
36:27
That's my that's my biggest thing is that a lot of guys in
36:30
Oregon look that way. They have, they've always have
36:34
an explosive offense. They always have a find a way to
36:37
get guys the ball, which is kind of an unorthodox way that the
36:41
NFL doesn't run a lot of guys in.
36:42
Like you just mentioned him playing running back and doing
36:45
certain things along that nature.
36:47
I think when it's time to become a purified professional tight
36:51
end and things along that nature, there's other things
36:54
that we want to see consistently like line and up in that high
36:56
formation or that double tight end formations.
37:00
You know, we want to see that on a mass scale, which we do see
37:03
from Ohio State's and the the Michigan's.
37:06
Those guys run those prostyle formations and along that
37:09
nature. So it's kind of hard to judge
37:11
Oregon players, but here's some play style.
37:14
Here's the thing, and I'm going to go back to Kenyan Siddique.
37:17
He ran a 439 and he he could play wide receiver.
37:21
The Jets could put him on the other side.
37:23
He could be another wide receiver on the other side with
37:25
Garrett Wilson. So to me, the guy has tremendous
37:28
speed, tremendous size, 6, three.
37:31
I think he's I think he's explosive.
37:33
This guy had a ton of touchdowns last year.
37:36
How many yards did he run? I think it was like, I think he
37:38
had like 4. 800 I believe something.
37:41
Like that? Well, I'm talking about all
37:42
together. They used them in a running game
37:43
too. Yeah.
37:44
So combined with that, probably in the 11 hundred 1200 range.
37:47
So he was doing a lot of things in the offensive side of the
37:51
ball. And again, if they plan now, The
37:53
Jets are not drafting 1/4, like they're not going to get the
37:56
number one, their number one quarterback in this class.
37:58
But guess who's coming out of next year's class?
38:00
Dante Moore. And if they want to draw Dante
38:03
Moore to come here to the New York Jets, I mean, this might be
38:06
the pick that's going to make him excited to come and play
38:09
with The Jets. Dante Moore was throwing him a
38:11
ball this year. They a lot of people thought
38:13
that if Dante Moore came out of this draft, The Jets were
38:16
drafting him at 2. So but he decided to go back and
38:19
play one more year with Oregon and try to win a national
38:21
championship. So he came out here.
38:23
And now Dante Moore might be the best quarterback in next year's
38:26
class. So it'll be very, very
38:28
interesting to see in next year's class if if that's the
38:31
way The Jets are now again, you don't know what The Jets are
38:34
thinking, but I don't know if The Jets know what they're
38:36
thinking sometimes. But but I like Sadiq.
38:40
I really liked him in this draft class.
38:41
I thought I my honest opinion and I've argued this, he's
38:45
either my second or third best offensive option in this class.
38:48
And I think The Jets are going to use him as a wide receiving,
38:51
wide receiver slash tight end prototype type of play.
38:55
So Carol, before we we got one more pick to go in before we
38:59
take a quick break on this one. Sadiq I I think is just like a
39:04
real nice kind of you can put them anywhere in the formation.
39:07
You can split them out like the giants used to do with Shockey
39:09
back in the day. You can put them as a
39:11
traditional big slot or H and have them be like a full back
39:14
kind of doing stuff out of the backfield.
39:16
You can do a lot of different things with him.
39:18
You can't do it Mason Taylor. So it's kind of like I think
39:21
everyone like goes because obviously we don't talk about
39:23
Aaron Hernandez, but you want to talk about the diversity of the
39:26
skill sets of two different star tight ends, right?
39:28
And Gronk and Aaron Hernandez had that diverse skill sets.
39:31
Mason Taylor and Sadiq have very different skill sets.
39:35
I think that's they complement each other real nice.
39:37
Here's the pick, though, for the Lions.
39:39
They needed a lineman. They get Blake Miller from
39:41
Clemson, they go and get who we talked about is probably the
39:44
next best tackle in this draft. I liked him better than Proctor
39:47
personally. Think he's a technician, doesn't
39:50
miss games. This guy's for real.
39:53
And we got Jonas Gray joining us.
39:54
He's sitting in the backyard. Let's bring him in.
39:56
Jonas, What's up, bud? Yo.
39:59
What's going on guys? How y'all doing man?
40:01
Appreciate y'all having me. Absolutely.
40:03
You look good man. Nice having you too, brother.
40:05
Look, you got you got Capri Bibs.
40:07
He he looks like he could play in the NFL still.
40:10
Yeah, you got Jonas. He does too.
40:12
He do too. He do, too.
40:16
At the end of the day, really what it is is black doesn't
40:20
crack, hey? I'm 33.
40:24
I feel like I'm like 21 or something.
40:26
Hey, listen for another day. Why doesn't crack either?
40:29
Why doesn't crack either? I'm 44.
40:32
I'm. Gonna be 44.
40:42
He's like milk. Screw you.
40:45
Screw you. Milk.
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Milk. It doesn't body good.
40:50
OK, that's what the women say. It's strong bones, right?
40:55
Strong bones. Listen, what's the best part of
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the Oreo cookie man? I never eat the cream filler
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the. Best part about the Oreo is
41:08
there's two. There's 2.
41:15
No Oreo without the cooking. My goodness, you know you.
41:20
See what side you see, what side the brands on.
41:26
It's been a crazy, crazy show. I'd like to thank all the fans
41:29
that have been tuning in and listening to us on Spotify and
41:32
Apple, the video, the audio, Tik Toks, the Instagrams which we're
41:37
working on. I want to give a shout out to
41:38
Mike V. He's been, you know, managing
41:41
all the stuff that we're doing on the back end, so we really
41:43
appreciate him and NIF. And shout out to the NIF man.
41:46
Our VR manager. He has been sensational, all the
41:49
work that he puts in on the back end.
41:51
And I know if he's not listening, he always tells me,
41:53
why don't you ever help me? Why don't you ever give me any
41:55
compliments? And I give you compliments all
41:58
the time. I love what you do.
41:59
And since you, since you started and you watched my show from the
42:03
beginning and wanted to get into this business, you've really
42:05
worked really, really hard and and built good relationships.
42:08
So I, I love, love what you do on the back end.
42:10
So thank you to Nathan for doing that and thank you to everybody,
42:14
everybody that tunes in and listens to us every single week
42:17
on Mondays and Thursdays. There it is, the old Nathan
42:21
mania. By the way, go check out the
42:22
Hulkamania documentary. It is sensational.
42:25
I watched all four of them. If you're a Hulk Hulk Hogan fan,
42:28
which I am growing up, it's sad. But if you see the back end of
42:32
what has happened in his career and and how it like transitioned
42:36
from one to the other and him passing away at the age of 71,
42:39
it's a horrible thing. But it was a very good
42:41
documentary. So go check it out on Netflix.
42:44
Netflix should be giving us some some.
42:46
Sponsors. Yeah, you just free puppies.
42:48
I'm doing it crazy. I mean, I'm helping out of here.
42:52
Yeah, that's a product. Can't wait.
42:57
Porn. Is a man.
42:58
So you go watch it, binge watch it, binge watching.
43:02
It I watched it one time. Why am I binge watching it?
43:07
I watched it once. I don't watch things over and
43:08
over and over again, by the way. But anyways, go check it out.
43:12
By the way, what? Who do we have on next week, by
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the way? All right, I keep saying, by the
43:16
way, I'm a little tired. Yeah.
43:18
I know Thursday at 8:20 was matter of World Peace that we're
43:22
going to have on. That's right.
43:24
And Monday was a Monday was a baseball guess.
43:27
Let me get that for you, right? Ken Davidoff, who actually wrote
43:30
some books, I believe if he writes, I want to say he writes
43:32
for the Athletic or some like someone of the one of the big
43:34
sites I don't remember he'll be on at. 820 It's the athletic and
43:38
it's David off. Yeah, it's The Athletic new.
43:41
York Times, Yeah, New. York Times, OK.
43:44
Well, New York Times owns The Athletic, yes.
43:46
It's the athletic. I know because I've met David
43:49
off years ago so, but he's a great writer and Meadow Wall
43:55
World Peace next week it's going to be great.
43:57
So all right, we got to go. It's tough.
43:59
Sorry, sorry to the Knicks fans tonight.
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Oh, I'm sorry, that's another. Thing we never don't worry.
44:04
I know Fish says nothing about. Going to go buy the tickets.
44:06
But I just wanted. To I already told you.
44:09
Condolences to the Knicks. Condolences.
44:12
Here in Atlanta, and we'll make sure that we keep the light off,
44:15
all right. Q Now you got to buy the tickets
44:17
and if if the Knicks come back, you'll.
44:18
Be a mom. Who knows?
44:20
The Knicks are. Coming back for next week, Who?
44:22
Knows the Knicks are coming. Back.
44:24
Oh yeah, they do it. Yeah, they do it now.
44:26
They come. Back, you'll be a meme.
44:27
He knows the Knicks are coming. Hey and speedy and and, and make
44:31
sure you you know, comfort your man Arrow tonight because his
44:35
MVP is getting blown out as well as we speak so.
44:37
Who's my MVP? Jokis jokis Joker in warp right
44:43
now and you you know he's been all his more musical Denver so
44:49
speedy you got a got another job ahead of you tonight irrelevant
44:55
care care for his emotions you're.
44:57
Not naming them. Let's go.
45:00
No, let's stop, man. Stop playing with your tools.
45:02
All right, stop playing with yourself.
45:04
All right, that's it for a show. Ladies and gentlemen, I got to
45:06
go. Good night.
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