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- 0:00Hey everyone, welcome back to The Science of Leading.
- 0:02I'm Claire Monroe, and as always,
- 0:04I'm here with the one and only Edwin Carrington.
- 0:06Edwin, how are you doing today?
- 0:06Doing well,
- 0:09Claire.
- 0:09Always a pleasure to dig into these topics with you.
- 0:12And I have to say, today's subject-high-performing teams-is one
- 0:12that's
- 0:16close to my heart.
- 0:17I've seen a lot of teams in my time,
- 0:19and the difference between a good team and a truly high-performing one
- 0:23is, well, night and day.
- 0:23Yeah, and I think a lot of people assume that
- 0:27if you just put a bunch of talented people together,
- 0:30you'll get magic.
- 0:31But, honestly, that's not what I've seen.
- 0:33I remember my first "superstar" team-everyone had impressive resumes,
- 0:37but we just... didn't click.
- 0:40We missed deadlines, there was tension,
- 0:42and it felt like we were all rowing in different directions.
- 0:45I couldn't figure out why it wasn't working.
- 0:45That's a classic scenario,
- 0:49Claire.
- 0:50It's tempting to think talent alone is enough,
- 0:52but high performance is engineered,
- 0:55not accidental.
- 0:56The research backs this up-high-performing teams are built on
- 0:56shared
- 1:01goals, psychological safety, clear roles,
- 1:04and balanced accountability.
- 1:05It's about intentional design.
- 1:08You need everyone aligned on what success looks like,
- 1:11and each person has to know how their role fits into the bigger picture.
- 1:15Otherwise, you get what you described: a group of individuals,
- 1:20not a team.
- 1:20So, it's not just about having the right skills,
- 1:23but about how those skills fit together.
- 1:25I mean, I've read that teams with clear goals and defined roles are way
- 1:28more effective.
- 1:29But psychological safety-that's the one that always stands out to me.
- 1:33Like, people need to feel safe to speak up,
- 1:35right?
- 1:35Exactly.
- 1:36Amy Edmondson's work and Google's Project Aristotle both found psychological
- 1:41safety to be the number one predictor of team success.
- 1:45When people feel safe to share ideas,
- 1:48admit mistakes, or challenge each other,
- 1:50you get real collaboration and innovation.
- 1:53And that's what separates a high-performing team from just a
- 1:53collection
- 1:57of high performers.
- 1:57So, if you're listening and thinking,
- 2:00"My team is full of smart people,
- 2:02but we're not hitting our stride," maybe it's time to look at the design
- 2:05and the dynamics, not just the résumés.
- 2:08Where was I going with this?
- 2:09Oh right-so, Edwin, what's the first thing you look for when you're assessing
- 2:13whether a team has high-performance potential?
- 2:13I always start with alignment.
- 2:17Is there a shared mission?
- 2:19Are roles clear?
- 2:21And do people feel safe to contribute?
- 2:23If those aren't in place, talent alone won't get you very far.
- 2:23That makes
- 2:28sense.
- 2:28But let's talk about why so many teams miss the mark.
- 2:31I mean, we've all seen teams with great people that just... fizzle.
- 2:34What are the most common pitfalls you see?
- 2:34There are a few big ones.
- 2:38Vague goals-if people don't know what success means,
- 2:41they can't deliver it.
- 2:43Unclear roles-when responsibilities overlap or get dropped,
- 2:47things stall.
- 2:48Communication breakdowns-if people don't feel safe to speak up,
- 2:53issues get buried.
- 2:54And, maybe most damaging, poor team fit.
- 2:57Even one misaligned hire can throw off the whole group.
- 3:01The cost isn't just missed targets; it's lost morale,
- 3:05disengagement, and sometimes, your best people quietly leaving.
- 3:05Yeah,
- 3:09and I think a lot of leaders fall into the trap of thinking,
- 3:12"If I just hire for intelligence,
- 3:14energy, and integrity"-the Warren Buffett trio-they'll be set.
- 3:17But even that's not enough, right?
- 3:17That's right.
- 3:20Buffett's three are foundational,
- 3:22but behavioral fit is the missing piece.
- 3:25I once worked with a brilliant analyst-off-the-charts smart,
- 3:29high energy, total integrity.
- 3:31But the team needed someone who could handle constant client interaction
- 3:35and fast pivots.
- 3:36He was more comfortable with deep,
- 3:38solo analysis.
- 3:40He struggled, the team struggled,
- 3:42and it was nobody's fault.
- 3:44It was just a misfit.
- 3:44That's such a good point.
- 3:46And it's something we've talked about in earlier episodes-how gut instinct
- 3:50in hiring can be so misleading.
- 3:52I mean, you can have a great feeling about someone,
- 3:54but if you're not looking at how they'll actually mesh with the team,
- 3:57you're rolling the dice.
- 3:58That's where OAD's assessments come in,
- 4:00right?
- 4:00Absolutely.
- 4:02OAD's behavioral assessments help you see beyond the résumé and the interview.
- 4:07They measure how someone communicates,
- 4:10makes decisions, handles pressure-all the things that determine whether
- 4:14they'll thrive in your specific environment.
- 4:16It's about moving from guesswork to precision.
- 4:19And when you get that fit right,
- 4:22performance becomes almost effortless.
- 4:22So,
- 4:24it's not just about "can they do the job," but "will they thrive here,
- 4:28with these people, in this context." That's a big shift for a lot of
- 4:32leaders, but it's so important if you want to avoid those costly mis-hires.
- 4:32Let's
- 4:36dig into what actually keeps a team performing at a high level over time.
- 4:40We've talked about psychological safety,
- 4:42but what else goes into building trust and alignment that lasts?
- 4:42Trust
- 4:46is the foundation, but it's reinforced by shared responsibility and continuous
- 4:50growth.
- 4:51High-performing teams don't just hit their goals-they challenge each
- 4:55other, adapt, and keep raising the bar.
- 4:58Structured feedback is key.
- 5:00When feedback is timely and actionable,
- 5:03it keeps everyone moving in the right direction.
- 5:05And development opportunities-whether it's training,
- 5:08mentorship, or new challenges-help people grow with the team,
- 5:12not just in their own silos.
- 5:12I love that.
- 5:15And I'm curious-how do leaders actually reinforce culture day-to-day?
- 5:19I mean, it's easy to talk about values,
- 5:22but how do you make them real?
- 5:22It's about modeling the behavior you want
- 5:25to see.
- 5:26Howard Schultz at Starbucks is a great example-he didn't just talk about
- 5:30culture, he lived it.
- 5:32He made sure people understood the "why" behind decisions,
- 5:35especially during tough transitions.
- 5:37And with OAD clients, we've seen that when leaders use data to understand
- 5:42their teams-who needs more support,
- 5:44who's ready for a stretch assignment-they can tailor their approach and
- 5:48keep the culture strong, even as things change.
- 5:48So,
- 5:52it's not just about setting the tone at the top,
- 5:54but about reinforcing it in the little moments-how you give feedback,
- 5:58how you handle mistakes, how you celebrate wins.
- 6:01And I guess, making sure everyone feels like they belong and can contribute,
- 6:05even when things get messy or uncertain.
- 6:05Exactly.
- 6:08Culture isn't a poster on the wall-it's how people treat each other,
- 6:12how they solve problems, and how they hold each other accountable.
- 6:15When you get that right, you build resilience.
- 6:18The team can weather change, adapt,
- 6:20and keep performing at a high level.
- 6:20Alright,
- 6:23so let's talk about the role of data.
- 6:24I feel like this is where a lot of teams either level up or get stuck.
- 6:28How do you actually use data to keep improving,
- 6:30instead of just collecting it and moving on?
- 6:30Great question.
- 6:34The best teams don't just set and forget-they're always measuring,
- 6:38learning, and adjusting.
- 6:40Regular data collection on team performance-things like pulse surveys,
- 6:44feedback tools, and behavioral analytics-gives you real-time insight
- 6:49into what's working and what's not.
- 6:50It's not about micromanaging; it's about spotting patterns early,
- 6:55so you can intervene before small issues become big problems.
- 6:55So,
- 6:58you're saying it's not just about annual reviews or big,
- 7:01formal assessments.
- 7:02It's about building feedback into the rhythm of the team-quick check-ins,
- 7:06anonymous surveys, that kind of thing?
- 7:06Exactly.
- 7:10The more you can make feedback and data collection part of everyday life,
- 7:14the more agile and resilient your team becomes.
- 7:17And with the right analytics, you can even predict where disruptions
- 7:21might happen-like if psychological safety is dipping,
- 7:25or if certain roles are overloaded.
- 7:27That lets you act proactively,
- 7:30not reactively.
- 7:30I love that.
- 7:32It's like, you're not just hoping things will work out-you're engineering
- 7:35your edge, as you always say.
- 7:37And I guess that's the big takeaway: high-performing teams don't happen
- 7:40by accident.
- 7:41They're built, measured, and improved on purpose.
- 7:41That's right,
- 7:45Claire.
- 7:45If you want to outperform, retain top talent,
- 7:48and move faster, invest in alignment,
- 7:50trust, and data-driven improvement.
- 7:52Don't leave it to chance.
- 7:52Well,
- 7:54that's a perfect place to wrap for today.
- 7:56Thanks, Edwin, for sharing your wisdom as always.
- 7:59And thanks to everyone listening-if you want to see these ideas in action,
- 8:03check out OAD dot ai for free.
- 8:05We'll be back soon with more on building smarter,
- 8:07stronger teams.
- 8:08Edwin, always a pleasure.
- 8:08Likewise,
- 8:11Claire.
- 8:11Take care, everyone, and keep leading with intention.
- 8:11See you next time
- 8:15on The Science of Leading!