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The Bolt Report | 3 September · The Bolt Report

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  Speaker 1: Kids.
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  Speaker 2: He's the report.
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  Speaker 3: Well, good evening and welcome to the Bolt Report. I'm
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  Speaker 3: James Macpherson, filling in for Andrew, whom we send all
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  Speaker 3: our very best messages to tonight. Well coming up, Dan
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  Speaker 3: Andrews front and center at China's military parade. I'll be
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  Speaker 3: joined by my panel shortly to discuss that disgraceful move.
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  Speaker 3: A legendary comedian has been arrested in the UK over
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  Speaker 3: social media posts. Rowan Dean joins me to break down
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  Speaker 3: the madness. Three local councils have caught my attention, but
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  Speaker 3: for all the wrong reasons. I'll explain why Australia is
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  Speaker 3: starting to look like a pilot project for a low
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  Speaker 3: budget George Orwell reboot, and parents are reportedly giving their
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  Speaker 3: children energy drinks instead of much needed medications. I'll speak
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  Speaker 3: to a child psychologist about Australia's ADHD medication shortages a
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  Speaker 3: little later in the program, But first, if there was
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  Speaker 3: any doubt about Daniel Andrews's nickname Dictator Dan, they have now.
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  Speaker 4: Been well and truly cleared up.
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  Speaker 3: In a puff of red Confettian goose stepping soldiers. The
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  Speaker 3: former Victorian Premier was today front and center at a
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  Speaker 3: military parade in Beijing featuring all the worst people on earth.
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  Speaker 3: Take a look at this photo. It should damn Dan
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  Speaker 3: Andrews forever. If there's a worse image than smiling next
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  Speaker 3: to Jijingping Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong An while intercontinental
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  Speaker 3: missiles roll past, it's doing so while wearing a visit
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  Speaker 3: Victoria Lapelpin. The world's most notorious despots lined up for
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  Speaker 3: Beijing's biggest ever military parade, and they're in the official photo.
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  Speaker 3: Despite supposedly being just a private citizen. Was Dan Andrews
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  Speaker 3: looking very much at home?
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  Speaker 4: It's the sort of.
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  Speaker 3: Image Chinese state media would have prayed for if they
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  Speaker 3: weren't godless communists. I mean, why would the former Premier
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  Speaker 3: Victoria and labor hero Dan Andrews insert himself into this
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  Speaker 3: parade of dictators men accused of torture, public executions and
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  Speaker 3: unjust wars. Like I said, Andrews insists he was there
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  Speaker 3: on a personal.
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  Speaker 4: Capacity, which is adorable.
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  Speaker 3: This is the same Dan Andrews who during his premiership
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  Speaker 3: was famous for mysterious China junkets carried out without Australian
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  Speaker 3: media in tow. But here's the problem. If he was
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  Speaker 3: there purely in a personal capacity. Why then, was he
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  Speaker 3: standing shoulder to shoulder with global tyrants in the official
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  Speaker 3: group photograph. I mean, if I attend the MCG in
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  Speaker 3: a personal capacity, no one mistakes me for the Captain
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  Speaker 3: of Collingwood. If I visit the Vatican, I don't suddenly
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  Speaker 3: end up with my image painted into the Sistine Chapel ceiling.
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  Speaker 3: Dan Andrews, however, well, he flies to Beijing, where he's met,
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  Speaker 3: smiling like a cheshire cat, as a guest of honor
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  Speaker 3: on the Red carpet by communist dictator Jijingping.
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  Speaker 4: Just a casual trip.
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  Speaker 3: He expects us to believe he's just a tourist who
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  Speaker 3: happened to casually wander into Mordor on a Kentiki tour.
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  Speaker 3: And then he poses with Vladimir Putin, who is right
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  Speaker 3: now slaughtering Ukrainians, and with Kim Jong Aung, who runs
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  Speaker 3: perhaps the most repressive regime outside all the other authoritarians
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  Speaker 3: pictured with Dan Andrews. If World War three were to
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  Speaker 3: break out tomorrow, all the bad guys would be in
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  Speaker 3: that photo, along with Australia's own form of Victorian Premier
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  Speaker 3: and advisor to our prime Minister. Speaking of the Prime Minister,
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  Speaker 3: when asked if he liked Dan Andrews playing as an
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  Speaker 3: extra in a parade of dictators, he shrugged it off.
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  Speaker 5: What do you think of Dan Andrews joining a line
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  Speaker 5: of people greeting President she at this parade, which includes
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  Speaker 5: Vladimir Putin and Kim Johng?
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  Speaker 6: Well do you like that Dan andrews caravan is not
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  Speaker 6: meeting them?
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  Speaker 3: As I said, right, he wasn't meeting them. He was
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  Speaker 3: just with them and getting a selfie. Sitting or standing
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  Speaker 3: alongside desktops at a military parade sends the same message
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  Speaker 3: as sharing a beer with them. Solidarity Beijing got exactly
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  Speaker 3: what it wanted propaganda gold. Why doesn't Albanesi condemn Dan Andrews?
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  Speaker 3: Is it because Dictator Dan still wields enormous influence inside
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  Speaker 3: the Labor Party?
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely?
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  Speaker 3: Is it because Anthony Albanesi is desperately afraid of upsetting China?
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  Speaker 4: Without doubt?
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  Speaker 3: Is it because handsome boy secretly likes outsourcing his foreign
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  Speaker 3: policy to retired premiers with a soft spot for goose stepping.
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  Speaker 3: Draw your own conclusions. Either way, it's disgraceful. Even former
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  Speaker 3: Queensland Premier Anastasia palage. No friend of Conservatives called Andrew's
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  Speaker 3: appearance quote a bridge too far. Even she saw the
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  Speaker 3: danger of Western leaders normalizing dictators by tending parades designed
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  Speaker 3: to glorify military power.
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  Speaker 7: If you go into a dinner part and you know
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  Speaker 7: the host, that's fine. But if the host tells you
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  Speaker 7: who else is going, you can make your mind up
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  Speaker 7: to say, I'm not going to that dinner party.
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  Speaker 4: So I just think in this.
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  Speaker 7: Case, I would respect Dan, I respect Bob, but I
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  Speaker 7: think they've just gone the next level.
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  Speaker 3: Well, when Anastasia Pealoge is your voice of caution, you've
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  Speaker 3: drifted so far off course you're basically waving the sailors
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  Speaker 3: from Atlantis. I should note she mentioned Bob Carr there. Well,
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  Speaker 3: As it turns out, Bob Carr was not in attendance
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  Speaker 3: at the parade. He had a last minute change of mind.
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  Speaker 3: He told nine newspapers he didn't want to attend a
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  Speaker 3: Soviet style military parade.
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  Speaker 4: Dan Andrews, on the other hand, well, Nationals.
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  Speaker 3: Leader David Little Proud was not as diplomatic as Anastasia Paloge.
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  Speaker 3: He accused Andrews of being Beijing's pawn, Actually a pawn,
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  Speaker 3: maybe generous pawns at least move strategically. Dan Andrews is
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  Speaker 3: more like a decorative salt shaker at G's banquet table.
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  Speaker 4: He's David Little Proud.
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  Speaker 8: I think they're pawns. They're being used by the Chinese
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  Speaker 8: regime because they have influenced with the Albanesi government. That's
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  Speaker 8: why they go.
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  Speaker 1: That's why they're invited.
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  Speaker 8: They're going because of their own egos to right.
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  Speaker 3: And of course it makes even more sense when you
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  Speaker 3: remember Daniel Andrews's pandemic legacy. This is the man who
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  Speaker 3: imposed the longest lockdowns in the world, deployed police to
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  Speaker 3: patrol playgrounds and ban families from farewelling dying relatives. No
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  Speaker 3: wonder he feels at home standing beside Ji Putin and Kim.
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  Speaker 3: His instincts always did run closer to authoritarian than Australian.
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  Speaker 3: Like I said, they don't call him Dictator Dan for nothing.
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  Speaker 3: A former Australian premier should not be smiling at a
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  Speaker 3: Chinese military parade flanked by despots. Andrew's presence undermines our diplomacy,
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  Speaker 3: emboldens Beijing, sends confusing messages to our allies, and insults
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  Speaker 3: the value Australians claim to hold the Prime Minister, well,
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  Speaker 3: he should condemn it loudly and publicly, but he didn't. Instead,
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  Speaker 3: Dan to the Albanezi muthod excuses while the world watched
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  Speaker 3: labor luminaries nod along at a pageant of tyranny, Dictator
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  Speaker 3: Dan grinning in the company of tyrants, while the Australian
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  Speaker 3: government look the other way. Beijing could not have scripted
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  Speaker 3: this bett Well, actually they probably didn't script it. Rather,
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  Speaker 3: they probably did script it, and Dictator Dan will he
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  Speaker 3: sure did nail his lines. One more thing, Remember all
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  Speaker 3: those I stand with Dan hashtags that left his love
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  Speaker 3: to post on social media?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I stand with Dan sure has a new meaning.
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  Speaker 6: Now.
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  Speaker 3: Joining me now is former New South Wales Treasurer Michael
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  Speaker 3: Costa and GXO Strategies director Cameron Milner. Gentlemen, thanks for
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  Speaker 3: your time tonight. Michael, I'll start with you. Why won't
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  Speaker 3: the Prime Minister condemn Dan Andrews for attending this parade
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  Speaker 3: of dictators and authoritarians?
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  Speaker 9: Because he's weak and he's of the left. That's the
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  Speaker 9: only reason. Look, I wasn't surprised to see Dan Andrews there.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, you know, he's a left wing Nutter, and
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  Speaker 9: he's been there for a long time. I think the
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  Speaker 9: thing that disappoints me having been part of the Car
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  Speaker 9: government is Bob Carr sitting on the sidelines.
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  Speaker 6: You know. I was like, Bob is very.
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  Speaker 9: Fast becoming the sort of Malcolm Fraser of the Labor Party,
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  Speaker 9: you know, getting really dottery and silly in his old age.
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  Speaker 9: I just find it extraordinary that he could claim last
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  Speaker 9: week that you know, the Jewish lobby was influencing our policies.
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  Speaker 6: Yet he finds himself in China.
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  Speaker 9: And he's not there, you know, running across ten Amin
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  Speaker 9: Square with a poster calling for the end of the
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  Speaker 9: Uiga genocide. He's there on the sidelines, allegedly celebrating the
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  Speaker 9: victory of China in the.
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  Speaker 6: Second More War.
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  Speaker 9: But you know what he forgets is if he wants
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  Speaker 9: to celebrate the victory of China in the Second World War,
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  Speaker 9: you ought to go over to Taiwan, because you know,
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  Speaker 9: it was the nationalist government that actually led that victory
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  Speaker 9: in China, the Chinese people to victory, and it was
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  Speaker 9: Mao's mob that basically, you know, undermined them at various stages.
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  Speaker 6: So the whole thing is just a face it is
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  Speaker 6: a disgrace.
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  Speaker 9: They ought to both be ashamed of themselves and Alba
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  Speaker 9: Or to make very clear that we don't stand with
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  Speaker 9: any of those Those missiles, as you know James will
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  Speaker 9: be aimed at Australia if there's a conflict and they're
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  Speaker 9: celebrating that parade.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, indeed there were ballistic missiles paraded during that
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  Speaker 3: event that are capable of reaching the Australian mainland. And
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  Speaker 3: there's Dan Andrews, I presume clapping is the ballistic missiles
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  Speaker 3: paraded past him.
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  Speaker 4: Cameron.
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  Speaker 3: It's a bit cute, isn't it for Dan Andrews to pretend, well,
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  Speaker 3: he's just there as a private citizen.
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  Speaker 10: Absolutely, James and the Chinese Foreign Minister actually named the
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  Speaker 10: invitational list.
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  Speaker 1: The Dan Andrews are there because he's the.
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  Speaker 10: Former Victorian premier, so the Chinese will let the lie
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  Speaker 10: out of the bag here, James.
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  Speaker 1: So he wasn't there at a private capacity at all.
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  Speaker 10: I mean there were despots, dictators and Dan Andrews on
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  Speaker 10: that stage. It was appalling and hopefully he's completely trash
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  Speaker 10: his relationship with the Australian public from there. But I
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  Speaker 10: think the secret I think the secret James is that
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  Speaker 10: photo is worth a million dollars.
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  Speaker 1: A million dollars.
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  Speaker 10: He'll be able to mint himself money in China without
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  Speaker 10: photograph because he'll go to every person with Chinese influence
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  Speaker 10: and say, there I am with z.
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  Speaker 1: There I am with the Chinese leader.
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  Speaker 10: So this is a license to print money, a license
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  Speaker 10: to print money for Dan Andrews and he's shadowy consultancy
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  Speaker 10: he runs in Victoria.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, begs the question, doesn't it what price for a
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  Speaker 3: man's soul? I want to move on to talk about
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  Speaker 3: money talks. Indeed it seems to I want to talk
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  Speaker 3: about the decision reported in the Australian newspaper that isis
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  Speaker 3: brides who left our country to support Islamic terrorists are
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  Speaker 3: set to return home to Australia before Christmas. More than
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  Speaker 3: a dozen women and children expected to be evacuated from
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  Speaker 3: camps in Syria and flown to New South Wales and Victoria.
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  Speaker 3: I think most Australians will be horrified by this. If
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  Speaker 3: you leave our country to support a terrorist regime that
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  Speaker 3: beheads infidels, well you shouldn't get to come back. Assistant
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  Speaker 3: Minister for Multiculturalism Julian Hill treated the whole thing as
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  Speaker 3: a bit of a joke on TV this morning.
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  Speaker 11: Obviously, I'm a minister in the Home Affairs portfolio and
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  Speaker 11: if there was a secret plan, I think you would
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  Speaker 11: understand that I can't come on the television and talk
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  Speaker 11: about the secret plans I'd make because the second point
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  Speaker 11: i'd make, and let's not run the refuses to deny
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  Speaker 11: stories second point I'd make, which is where this can.
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  Speaker 4: Go entirely unhelpful.
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  Speaker 3: Michael to a serious question that all Australians need to
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  Speaker 3: know the answer to.
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  Speaker 4: But I've got a question for you.
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  Speaker 3: In God's name, why would we allow terrorist supporters back
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  Speaker 3: into this country.
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  Speaker 9: Well, of course we shouldn't, but I'm assuming that these
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  Speaker 9: people are Australian citizens, and if that's the case, we
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  Speaker 9: may have no choice. But they should be charged the
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  Speaker 9: moment they step on the tarmac in Australia. They were
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  Speaker 9: to be charged because they've committed crimes, and also their children.
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  Speaker 9: I feel sorry for those children. They need to be
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  Speaker 9: probably put into care somewhere and re educated because they've
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  Speaker 9: probably been indoctrinated in all of that Islamic nonsense that
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  Speaker 9: underpins the terrorism that we've seen globally.
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  Speaker 6: So I think that's the issue.
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  Speaker 9: If they're Australian citizens, we've got no choice, but they
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  Speaker 9: should be charged immediately.
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  Speaker 4: Well, a couple of questions from that.
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  Speaker 3: They obviously are Australian citizens, but I remember during COVID
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  Speaker 3: Australian citizens weren't allowed to come back into the country
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  Speaker 3: until the government were happy enough to let them in.
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  Speaker 3: So if that's the case, then I don't see why
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  Speaker 3: for people who are supporting terrorists the Australian government can't
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  Speaker 3: take whatever action they need to take to keep them
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  Speaker 3: out of the country. As for them being arrested the
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  Speaker 3: moment they arrived back on the tarmac, Cameron, what chance
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  Speaker 3: do you think that's going to happen.
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  Speaker 10: Well, not only the alberdes government, not under Tony Burke's
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  Speaker 10: red carpet for ISIS policy. He's clearly got here. I mean,
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  Speaker 10: these people need to be de radicalized. They need to
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  Speaker 10: make sure there's no threat to Australians back in Australia.
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  Speaker 10: They chose to go there, they chose to marry into
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  Speaker 10: a terrorist organization. They need to be deradicalized.
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  Speaker 1: And I think to.
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  Speaker 10: Michael, their children, who are quite old now, also need
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  Speaker 10: to be deradicalized and they don't need to become Western
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  Speaker 10: Sydney g Hardy's heroes and fate around the Islamic community
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  Speaker 10: in Western Sydney.
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  Speaker 1: We don't need any more of that either.
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  Speaker 10: So I think we need to be very very careful
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  Speaker 10: if this is Tony Burke's plan to continue to curry
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  Speaker 10: favor with the Muslim community in his own local electorate.
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  Speaker 3: Michael, how we expect to take politicians seriously and we
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  Speaker 3: hear it ad nauseum now, don't we. There's no place
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  Speaker 3: for hate in this country, and yet they're putting up
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  Speaker 3: no objections to these isis brides children. There's reports that
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  Speaker 3: there may be some men coming back to the country,
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  Speaker 3: no real.
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  Speaker 4: Pushback at all from the government.
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  Speaker 3: If they're so determined there's no place for hate in
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  Speaker 3: this country, it's a total contradiction, right.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a one way hate.
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  Speaker 9: You know, you can hate Jews in this country, but
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  Speaker 9: as soon as you mention anything that might contradict that narrative,
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  Speaker 9: you're called an islamophobe. I mean, that's where we've ended
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  Speaker 9: up on this. But the point here is we need
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  Speaker 9: to make sure that the government comes clean on this.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, at this stage, we don't even have a
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  Speaker 9: confirmation this is going to happen, and I think that's appalling.
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  Speaker 9: Where is transparency on this issue in the ASTRAM Public's
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  Speaker 9: entitled to know who's coming into the country and what
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  Speaker 9: their background is and what the government is going to
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  Speaker 9: do to mitigate the risk. And that's what's not happening.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and we saw there Julian Hill declined to give
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  Speaker 3: any clarity or transparency and made a joke of the
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  Speaker 3: fact that he was declining to do so. Moving on
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  Speaker 3: to other issues that are really important in our country
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  Speaker 3: at the moment, Labor has reportedly.
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  Speaker 4: Abandoned plans to send them.
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  Speaker 3: PAS on a trip to Europe to study disability services.
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  Speaker 3: This comes after the party, not unsurprisingly, faced severe backlash
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  Speaker 3: over its priorities. The Committee on the NDS, which is
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  Speaker 3: chaired by a Labor MP, was due to go to
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  Speaker 3: Sweden on a trip thought to cost around seventy thousand
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  Speaker 3: dollars for the flights alone. So Cameron, how is it
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  Speaker 3: that MP's charged with trying to rain in the ndis
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  Speaker 3: felt the need to fly to Europe in the first place.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it just doesn't make sense.
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  Speaker 10: Well, it doesn't James and it says tone death, isn't.
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  Speaker 10: I mean the problem with the NDS is there are
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  Speaker 10: genuine people who really need the NDAs, and then there's
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  Speaker 10: a whole lot of spibs out there who think it's
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  Speaker 10: a gravy train, a gravy train, and.
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  Speaker 1: That's the problem.
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  Speaker 10: I mean, MP's doing some free trip to Sweden where
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  Speaker 10: they would have had a few sidebar trips go down
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  Speaker 10: as well, and using an endiic's.
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  Speaker 1: Excuse is appalling.
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  Speaker 10: We actually need to focus on how we serve the
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  Speaker 10: people who really need the NDS dollars and not all
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  Speaker 10: the in between people who are ripping the system off
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  Speaker 10: and making a.
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  Speaker 3: Motza Michael, I'm glad the trip's been canceled, but it
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  Speaker 3: was only canceled, as I said, after public outcry. That
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  Speaker 3: doesn't give me much comfort in the discretion or the
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  Speaker 3: wisdom of our politicians.
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  Speaker 9: Well, look, Cameron's right, the NDAs is a honey potter
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  Speaker 9: and it's absolutely disgracing the way it has been managed.
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  Speaker 9: But look, I've got to say I have a problem
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  Speaker 9: with all of these study tours. You know, when I
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  Speaker 9: was in government, I refuse to take those study tours.
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  Speaker 6: We live in the age of zoom we live in
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  Speaker 6: the age of information.
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  Speaker 9: A lot of that information can be generated without having
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  Speaker 9: to leave Australia's shores.
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  Speaker 6: And I think it's just nonsense, and it's just an
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  Speaker 6: excuse for a junket.
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  Speaker 9: And it's not just in that committee. I'm sure other
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  Speaker 9: committees are doing the same sort of thing. We've got counsels,
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  Speaker 9: you know, with their sister city arrangements that provide junkets
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  Speaker 9: for local councils when they can't even fix up potholes.
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  Speaker 9: The whole system needs to be review these study tours.
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  Speaker 9: I think they've become a complete raught.
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  Speaker 4: Well.
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  Speaker 3: Spending money like drunken sailors is at least on point
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  Speaker 3: for this government. Official projections now show the federal government's
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  Speaker 3: total borrowings will surpass the one trillion dollar mark for
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  Speaker 3: the first time within just a matter of months. A
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  Speaker 3: figure show the Commonwealth as a whole currently owes nine
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  Speaker 3: hundred and sixty one billion dollars. Michael, the way labor's headed,
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  Speaker 3: that's not likely to improve anytime soon, is it.
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  Speaker 9: I can't improve because we're spending at record levels and
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  Speaker 9: our deficits are going to go up. But look, just
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  Speaker 9: to be fair on this, are the Morrison government left
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  Speaker 9: about eight hundred billion of that. Certainly the Albanese governments
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  Speaker 9: increased the rate of the debt. I think the real
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  Speaker 9: issue for me is the interest on that debt, you know,
• 17:38
  Speaker 9: heading close to fifty five billion dollars a year, and
• 17:41
  Speaker 9: just to put that in perspective, our UCUT submarines are
• 17:45
  Speaker 9: projected over the twenty years to cost US three hundred billion,
• 17:48
  Speaker 9: so you can basically pay those off in six years
• 17:50
  Speaker 9: based on the interest that these people have accumulated over
• 17:53
  Speaker 9: the last decade, and labor is doing nothing about I mean,
• 17:57
  Speaker 9: the ethos of this government is, as I've said on
• 17:59
  Speaker 9: many occasions, tax, spend and waste, and you're clearly seeing
• 18:03
  Speaker 9: that across the board, and that debt will never go down.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: So you mean to tell me if we weren't wasting
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: so much money, we'd actually be capable of defending ourselves.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: Unbelievable.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: Speaking of waste, a lot of our money is being
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: wasted on the government's attempts to change the weather. And
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: farmers who have been foolish enough to agree to host
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: wind turbines on their properties have now been warned that
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: when these massive towers expire, they could leave farmers with
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: decommissioning costs six hundred thousand dollars per tower to get
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: rid of them when their life span runs out. This
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: morning has come from the former head of Australia Wind
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: Farm Watchdog, Andrew Dyer Cameron. This is the part that
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: doesn't get spoken about right what happens when these monstrosities expire,
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: And now it seems like farmers, already under pressure from
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: every which way, might be left with the bill Well.
• 18:54
  Speaker 10: And James Willis from The Telegraph Daily Telegraph wrote a
• 18:57
  Speaker 10: very good piece about this, and he and I spoke
• 18:58
  Speaker 10: about it last night. He acknowledged there are good companies
• 19:01
  Speaker 10: doing the right thing, you know, with proper repatriation, proper
• 19:04
  Speaker 10: proper decommissioning plans, and then there's the others which we're
• 19:07
  Speaker 10: really questionable about. That's why govern needs to tighten up
• 19:09
  Speaker 10: and make sure that there's a full life cycle for
• 19:12
  Speaker 10: these wind turbines, if they're going to be given the
• 19:14
  Speaker 10: license to operate, that they've actually got a decommissioning plan
• 19:16
  Speaker 10: that stands up to scrutiny.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you're absolutely right. Just one more thing before I'll
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: let you go.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: The clip that's now been seen around the world of
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: Bobcatter threatening to punch a Channel nine journalist looks to
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: have landed the MP in more hot water than he
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: bargained for. Before we talk about that, let's just remind
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: ourselves of that extraordinary exchange.
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: If you've got Lebanese heritage yourself.
• 19:40
  Speaker 12: Oh, Mike, don't say that because that irritates me, and
• 19:43
  Speaker 12: I punch blots in the mouth for saying that. Don't
• 19:47
  Speaker 12: you dare say that? My family have been in this
• 19:49
  Speaker 12: country for one hundred and forty years, right, so you
• 19:53
  Speaker 12: and you say anything like that, I have on many
• 19:56
  Speaker 12: occasions punch bloats in the mouth.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: Right Well, that outburst has been referred to the Parliamentary
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: Standards Watchdog, with Kata refusing to apologize in our faces
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: the prospect of suspension.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: Or a pay cut.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Michael Costa, what do you think should happen and what
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: do you think will happen?
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: I don't think much will happen. I don't think there's
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: much you can do to an MP.
• 20:18
  Speaker 9: Look, look, he's obviously the uncle Arthur of the of
• 20:22
  Speaker 9: the Federal Parliament.
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: He order to retire. I think that's the real issues.
• 20:25
  Speaker 9: He embarrassed himself enough, you know, I heard his son
• 20:28
  Speaker 9: carrying on about there's some family secret that led to that.
• 20:32
  Speaker 9: We ought to explain it or just apologize and do
• 20:35
  Speaker 9: the honorable thing, but you know he's uncle Arthur.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: In my view, Cameron Milner just quickly should the should
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: the Parliament, the Senate take action against Bob catditt.
• 20:47
  Speaker 10: Oh Look, Bob's a big Queensland and he should actually
• 20:49
  Speaker 10: just own up to it and apologize.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: I mean that's what he should do after the outbirth
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: that he had.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: Very good Well coming up, thanks to both of you
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: for joining me. Coming up after the breaker. Legendary comedian
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: has been arrested in the UK over social media posts.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: What's new Rowan Dean joins me to break down the
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: madness after this break, welcome back to the program. Well,
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: when UK Prime Minister Kirs Starmer cautions police to focus
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: on solving crime rather than enforcing censorship, you know things
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: must have gone too far and that's exactly what's happened Overnight.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: Comedy writer Graham Lynan, creator of Father Ted and the
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: It Crowd, says he was arrested at Heathrow Airport for
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: three tweets criticizing trans ideology. Lynan, who's been a vocal
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: critic of transgender activism, says he was hauled away by
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: five police officers and released on condition that he stays
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: away from Twitter. Joining me now as Sky News host
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: Rowan Dean Rowan, thanks for your time tonight. Five police
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: officers arresting a guy for three tweets?
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: What on earth did he say?
• 21:58
  Speaker 13: Well, that's a good question, James, And we now know,
• 22:02
  Speaker 13: or we have an inkling of what a hate crime
• 22:04
  Speaker 13: actually is, or what hate speech actually means. We've all
• 22:08
  Speaker 13: wondered for you a few years now. What are these
• 22:10
  Speaker 13: non crime hate crimes or whatever they call them in
• 22:12
  Speaker 13: the UK. By the way, all this stuff will come
• 22:14
  Speaker 13: to Australia as well, so people better get ready for it.
• 22:17
  Speaker 13: But from the three tweets that have been published, I
• 22:20
  Speaker 13: assume they're accurate. We now know what a hate crime is.
• 22:23
  Speaker 13: The first thing, James is, whatever you do in a tweet,
• 22:27
  Speaker 13: don't use the word hate because that clearly is a
• 22:31
  Speaker 13: hate crime in this instance. Graham lyne And said homophobes
• 22:36
  Speaker 13: and misogynists.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: I hate him, and he's used the expletive as well.
• 22:41
  Speaker 13: F But then you go, well, hang on, I thought
• 22:44
  Speaker 13: we were supposed to hate misogynists. Didn't Julia Gillard make
• 22:49
  Speaker 13: a whole speech about how evil misogynists were and how
• 22:51
  Speaker 13: evil homophobes are, So why are saying I hate them?
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: I hate crime.
• 22:56
  Speaker 13: Clearly using the word hate by itself is a hate crime.
• 23:00
  Speaker 13: So I just warn any kids out there, don't put
• 23:02
  Speaker 13: on a tweet or Instagram or whatever, you know, I
• 23:05
  Speaker 13: hate Brussels sprouts or I hate doing my homework or
• 23:08
  Speaker 13: anything in that, because our e Safety commissioner might deem
• 23:11
  Speaker 13: that that is a hate crime.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: So that's the first tweet.
• 23:13
  Speaker 13: The second one is a bit more intriguing, And this, James,
• 23:16
  Speaker 13: is an aerial shot. It appears to be an aerial
• 23:19
  Speaker 13: shot or drone shot or a helicopter short of a
• 23:21
  Speaker 13: large crowd. And that crowd presumably is some kind of
• 23:25
  Speaker 13: transgender or pride march or something like that.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: I couldn't quite tell what it was, but.
• 23:30
  Speaker 13: The caption underneath it is Graham Lynon says something like,
• 23:35
  Speaker 13: I can smell the crowd from here. Now, supposing you're
• 23:39
  Speaker 13: in a helicopter or a man drone or something or
• 23:42
  Speaker 13: other than above a large crowd, is it really a
• 23:45
  Speaker 13: hate crime to say you can smell the crowd below?
• 23:48
  Speaker 13: Let's assume it's a transgender crowd. Now, I've never been
• 23:50
  Speaker 13: hoovered above a transgender crowd at any distance, so I
• 23:54
  Speaker 13: don't quite know what the smell would be. But it's
• 23:56
  Speaker 13: either a positive or a negative. It either smells good
• 23:59
  Speaker 13: or it smells bad. So if it smells bad, he's
• 24:01
  Speaker 13: saying this smells bad, that's a hate crime. What if
• 24:04
  Speaker 13: they're all fragrant transgenders and it smells wafting of perfume
• 24:09
  Speaker 13: and roses, is it still a hate crime? Clearly it is,
• 24:11
  Speaker 13: according to these coppers, five of them. The third tweet,
• 24:16
  Speaker 13: and this is a pretty interesting one. The third one
• 24:20
  Speaker 13: was advice to girls or women who were in a
• 24:24
  Speaker 13: sports room or a toilet or whatever and a bloke
• 24:27
  Speaker 13: dressed as a woman comes in and Braham's advice was
• 24:32
  Speaker 13: to punch them in the bollocks quote end quote. Now,
• 24:36
  Speaker 13: how can that be a hate crime when that is
• 24:38
  Speaker 13: what every single schoolgirl or woman who does a self
• 24:41
  Speaker 13: defense course, martial arts or any of those things is taught.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: If a bloke comes at you kick them in the bollocks.
• 24:48
  Speaker 13: So we've got three instances which the cops, five coppers,
• 24:51
  Speaker 13: as we said, deemed to be hate crimes, Graham line
• 24:55
  Speaker 13: and bundled off your rives back in the country and
• 24:57
  Speaker 13: there you have it. Now this so it's funny, but
• 25:02
  Speaker 13: it is so disturbing. Now he's been let off with oh,
• 25:05
  Speaker 13: don't go back on Twitter.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: So this is the way.
• 25:08
  Speaker 13: This is the equivalent of bail. Now, don't go back
• 25:11
  Speaker 13: on Twitter. But James, this is the madness that we
• 25:15
  Speaker 13: are heading to in Australia. Once you start having a
• 25:18
  Speaker 13: governmental authority or the cops looking at your Facebook posts,
• 25:21
  Speaker 13: your tweets or whatever, interpretation of the words or the
• 25:26
  Speaker 13: meanings becomes the key to whether you have committed a
• 25:30
  Speaker 13: crime or not.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: It's terrifying.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely, I think you nailed that row and thank you,
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: so I know what not to tweet. Now I want
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: to talk to you about a bizarre moment at a
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Coldplay concert. A couple of fans were invited on stage
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: during the show in London at the weekend, which is nice,
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: but things got very awkward when lead singer Chris Martin
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: found out the pair were from Israel.
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: His help went down.
• 25:54
  Speaker 14: Where did you come from today?
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: From Israel?
• 25:57
  Speaker 14: Okaylist, I'm going to say this is I'm very grateful
• 26:05
  Speaker 14: that your vinas Hubans are treating you as a hubert
• 26:08
  Speaker 14: on it, regardless of where you prove for.
• 26:10
  Speaker 15: We don't thank you for being here.
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: The green cool and thank.
• 26:13
  Speaker 15: You for being loving time. Although it's a controversial.
• 26:16
  Speaker 14: Baby that was a little wo people in the audience
• 26:18
  Speaker 14: from past of it because who you are we have
• 26:22
  Speaker 14: I think I'm thank you for being here.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: Well, thank god Chris Martin clarified that Jews are in
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: fact humans.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: But Roan, what did you make of that exchange?
• 26:36
  Speaker 13: It was disgusting, It was creepy, it was repulsive. Now,
• 26:41
  Speaker 13: I'm not a huge fan of Coldplays to begin with.
• 26:43
  Speaker 13: They had one good song, Yellow, the rest of them
• 26:45
  Speaker 13: are unlistenable. A cold Play concert these days you seem
• 26:48
  Speaker 13: to enter at your peril. If you happen to be
• 26:50
  Speaker 13: having an affair with your HR lady and you're a CEO,
• 26:53
  Speaker 13: well that's the end of your career over if you
• 26:55
  Speaker 13: have happen to be having some other kind of illicit
• 26:59
  Speaker 13: goings on with a member of the crowd that you
• 27:01
  Speaker 13: happen to be caught on one of his cameras he
• 27:03
  Speaker 13: seems to have. Obviously, no one wants to listen to
• 27:05
  Speaker 13: Coldplay music that goes without saying so you go along
• 27:08
  Speaker 13: to a concert to spy on other people and see
• 27:10
  Speaker 13: what they're up to, and they projected up onto the
• 27:12
  Speaker 13: screen and this is all the huge laugh for everybody.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: And now that that gag has kind.
• 27:16
  Speaker 13: Of run its course, what Chris Martin and Coleplay are
• 27:19
  Speaker 13: doing are inviting members up onto the stage. Now, that's
• 27:23
  Speaker 13: all well and good. I mean, it's not exactly that original.
• 27:25
  Speaker 13: It kind of has happened in rock concerts in the past.
• 27:28
  Speaker 13: But the creepiness and the repulsiveness of this. As soon
• 27:32
  Speaker 13: as he asked them where they're from, and the girls
• 27:33
  Speaker 13: said they're from Israel, he immediately started this weird kind
• 27:39
  Speaker 13: of equivocation about, oh, well, we welcome all humans, yes, human,
• 27:44
  Speaker 13: we're all human beings here together.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: By saying that he was in fact.
• 27:49
  Speaker 13: Dehumanizing these girls, dehumanizing them for being Israeli, and by extension,
• 27:56
  Speaker 13: one would assume dehumanizing them because he presumed they were Jewish.
• 28:01
  Speaker 13: Now that is sickening, and the response on social media
• 28:05
  Speaker 13: has been quite rightly, people are appalled and horrified.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: So there's that now.
• 28:11
  Speaker 13: I know, okays in the middle of the concert is
• 28:12
  Speaker 13: not quite looking up for what he's saying et cetera,
• 28:14
  Speaker 13: et cetera.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: So cut them a bit of slack there.
• 28:17
  Speaker 13: But the thoughts that went through his head, or appeared
• 28:20
  Speaker 13: to go through his head to somehow kind of justify
• 28:23
  Speaker 13: talking to Israelis and having them up on the stage
• 28:26
  Speaker 13: was utterly repulsive. And I hope he has a long
• 28:29
  Speaker 13: hard think about just how disgusting that was. But he
• 28:32
  Speaker 13: then doubled down and had to prove on the classic
• 28:35
  Speaker 13: moral equivalents. Here we go virtue signally, oh and all
• 28:39
  Speaker 13: say low to all the people in Palastine out in
• 28:41
  Speaker 13: the audience, and the way we go the moral equivalents
• 28:44
  Speaker 13: thing he had. It's so sickening why any people would
• 28:48
  Speaker 13: go along to one of those concerts. And as I say, people,
• 28:52
  Speaker 13: particularly Israeli people, but all sensible people are revolted by
• 28:56
  Speaker 13: what happened in that instance.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: Ron I guarantee you if they'd been from Pella Stein,
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: first the crowd would not have booed, they would have cheered. Second,
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: he wouldn't have said I'm going to treat you like humans.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: And third he wouldn't have given a shout out to
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: any Israelis in the audience. Be guaranteed, Hey, I'm almost
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: out of time. But I've got to ask you about
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: Dan Andrews in Beijing, and I want to show you
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: Dan Andrews arriving on the red carpet. It's not just
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: that he shakes Jijingping's hand. Have a look at how
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: far away from the Chinese dictator Dan Andrews is when
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: he extends his hand.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: Have we got this?
• 29:31
  Speaker 13: Os are handle a welcome to Chona?
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Well, no wealth bed?
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: Have you ever seen someone so eager to shake someone
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: else's hand?
• 29:45
  Speaker 13: Rowan, I think he's trying to slip something into his hand.
• 29:48
  Speaker 13: It might have been one of those secret labor handshakes
• 29:50
  Speaker 13: that they had down at Sussex Street, or it may
• 29:52
  Speaker 13: have been I think he might have been trying to
• 29:54
  Speaker 13: slip his CV into into his hand. Because let's face it,
• 29:57
  Speaker 13: if if you know, in some dystopian future of China
• 30:00
  Speaker 13: would rather take Australia without a war and just turn
• 30:03
  Speaker 13: us into a vassal state, which I studied Chinese at
• 30:06
  Speaker 13: university Chinese history, and that's kind of the history of China.
• 30:08
  Speaker 13: They just surround themselves with vassal states and and have
• 30:11
  Speaker 13: a governor who does their bidding. But you have to
• 30:14
  Speaker 13: choose the right governor to be the governor of Australia
• 30:17
  Speaker 13: in a vassal state dystopian future, and who better than
• 30:21
  Speaker 13: Dan Andrews. What's he got on is CV there, we're
• 30:24
  Speaker 13: in Tiananman square. Well, Dan Andrews is the only Australian
• 30:28
  Speaker 13: leader to ever fire rounds of rubber bullets on his
• 30:30
  Speaker 13: own people, so that's good.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: They could have ticked that one off.
• 30:34
  Speaker 13: Dan Andrews was also the most raconian during COVID at
• 30:39
  Speaker 13: forcing people to obey all their instructions and so on.
• 30:41
  Speaker 13: So I think Dan andrew was saying, look, Zee, if
• 30:44
  Speaker 13: ever you know there's a job going for a governor
• 30:47
  Speaker 13: of the vassal strait of Australasia.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: I'm your man, Rowan Deane.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: It's always a delight to talk to you. Thanks for
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: being on the program tonight.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: We're going to go to a break, but stick around.
• 30:58
  Speaker 15: Coming up.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: One Australian state is cannsidering a plan to ban fast
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: food restaurants.
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: Can you guess which state that is?
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: Plus council plans to spy on dog walkers. That and
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: much more with my panel in just a moment, Welcome back.
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: To the program.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: Three Local Council stories got my attention today. Each one
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: is petty and sinister in its own right, but put
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: them together you start to think Australia's being turned into
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: a pilot project for a low budget George Orwell reboot.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: The first story was from Victoria, where the Jacinta Allen
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: government is considering giving local councils the power to prevent
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: fast food stores from opening up in areas they deem
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: already have too many unhealthy restaurants. Nothing says you live
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: in a free country like having bureaucrats ration your cheeseburgers.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: If this gets across the line, the next thing they'll
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: do is require you to have a license before you
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: eat a Mars bar.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: That's the first story.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: The second story, also from Victoria, but you already knew that,
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: didn't you. Conce earns the city of Port Phillip, where
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: they've installed CCTV cameras to make sure dog walkers are
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: keeping their hounds on a leash. The cameras are accompanied
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: by a sign warning dog owners they're being watched. There's
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: no word from the council about whether or not they're
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: using facial recognition technology on the owners or the dogs,
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: or how the data is being stored. Then here's the
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: third council story I read today Waverley Council in Sydney.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: Just to prove the madness isn't only in Victoria. They've
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: told a group of Bondai residents they're not allowed to
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: build a garage under their homes. The reason, well, building
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: a garage would go against the council's policy of encouraging
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: residents to use public transport. Better to abandon your car
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: and haul three bags of shopping onto a council run
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: bus if it arrives.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: At this rate.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: The only thing you'll be permitted to do in your
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: suburb is to sigh in despair. Joining me now is
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: Jimtognini from GT Communications and Skynews.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: Contributor Joe Hildebrand. Welcome to you both.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: I want to start with counsels being able to deny
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: approval for fast food restaurants based on their ideas about
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: community health. Joe, the path to authoritarianism is always paved
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: with good intentions, isn't it.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Isn't it?
• 33:20
  Speaker 15: Just do you know, James there was actually a businessman.
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: He was a Quaker, and he tried to set up
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: the perfect community for workers at his factory, and he
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: set up a little town called Bourneville, and all the
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: workers lived there and he tried to make it as
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: healthy for them as possible because he knew that this
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: would benefit them. And the name of that businessman was
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: mister Cadbury. So I think when you're sitting down and
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: deciding what's best for everybody else, it's probably better to
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: get out of the way. In seriousness, this is an
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: idiotic kind of take because we know that fast food
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: consumption is much more prevalent among poorer people, and obesity
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: and diabetes is much more prevalent because simply they don't
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: have that money to afford higher end restaurants. It's convenient,
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: it's cheap, it's easy. And so if you're banning too
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: many fast food outlets from existing in these suburbs, what
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: are you doing. Well, you're just making them choose between
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: fewer fast food outlets, and then what are you going
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: to replace them with.
• 34:28
  Speaker 15: You're going to put a gun.
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: To the head of a healthy vegetarian hare Krishna restaurants
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: saying you must set up a drive through at this intersection.
• 34:39
  Speaker 15: I just don't understand the logic of it.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: It's a great point Joe, and to you, Jim, if
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: I want to eat myself into an early grave, what
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: business is that of the state and particularly my local council?
• 34:52
  Speaker 16: Now, the council's got no business doing anything except for
• 34:55
  Speaker 16: keeping the bins empty and the streets reasonably clean, and
• 34:58
  Speaker 16: maintaining public infrastructu as it falls into their jurisdiction. I mean,
• 35:02
  Speaker 16: I've got a very good friend in Michelle Stevenson, who
• 35:05
  Speaker 16: is an excellent local counselor. And I mean that I'm
• 35:07
  Speaker 16: not just you know, nudge and a wink about it.
• 35:09
  Speaker 16: She's excellent and she would be the you know, from
• 35:11
  Speaker 16: my limited experience in this space the exception, local councils
• 35:14
  Speaker 16: are the bane of our existence.
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: No one goes God.
• 35:16
  Speaker 16: I love paying my rates. It's awesome. It's money well spent.
• 35:20
  Speaker 16: Let me pay them again, and please, you know, increase
• 35:22
  Speaker 16: our rates. It is this little cohort of people, you know,
• 35:27
  Speaker 16: with looking for something to be virtuous about, looking for
• 35:30
  Speaker 16: something to.
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: Be important with.
• 35:32
  Speaker 16: I think that's it, you know, stretching into what restaurants
• 35:36
  Speaker 16: should or shouldn't be approved on the basis of their
• 35:38
  Speaker 16: views of what's healthy is as Joe, it's not just
• 35:41
  Speaker 16: idiotic it's mentally deficient. Like, go volunteer somewhere, Go do
• 35:47
  Speaker 16: something that actually counts with your time, and stop insulting us,
• 35:50
  Speaker 16: stop wasting our money.
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: You're not that important, all right.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: So I mentioned Philip Counsel using CCTV cameras to monitor
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: whether or not people at the local dog.
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: Park were obeying the rules.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: I get why CCTV can be helpful, you know, for
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: catching criminals, But Joe, do we really watch society in
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: which you can't even walk your dog without being monitored
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: by the state.
• 36:11
  Speaker 15: I do find it very creepy. I have to say,
• 36:13
  Speaker 15: I run my dog.
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: I've got a kelpie and I run him off the leash,
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: and so I'm already literally a criminal on the run.
• 36:21
  Speaker 15: And the idea that.
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: Counsels would be monitoring every single dog owner for whether
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: or not they have Obviously I'm not an idiot. I
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: lease him up whenever there's more people around or whatever.
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: I try to keep it away from crowds and stuff
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: like that. But the idea that you would be filming
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: people and devoting actual man hours person hours to prosecuting
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: people for not having their dogs on a leash.
• 36:50
  Speaker 15: I'm pretty sure.
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: There are some other serious forms of crime in Victoria
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: that maybe a bit more attention.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: Well here's the thing that interested me, right, Jim. Reading
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: comments on a lot of people were supportive of this.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: So a lot of people are stupid.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: Well, that's true, and many of them are on local council.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: But a lot of people are saying, as long as
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: you're doing the right thing, what have you got to
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: worry about?
• 37:12
  Speaker 16: Wow, let's unpack that from the state of Victoria. Lock
• 37:15
  Speaker 16: me down harder, chair, and Dan, who seems to be
• 37:18
  Speaker 16: now like my greatest desire today we don't let Dan
• 37:22
  Speaker 16: Andrews back in the country, like let him stay with
• 37:23
  Speaker 16: his new mates. But that aside, that is such a
• 37:27
  Speaker 16: terrifying reflection on how some people think about things. And
• 37:29
  Speaker 16: I went through COVID in WA, so I know a
• 37:31
  Speaker 16: little bit about that sort of psychosis. Look, i'd like
• 37:35
  Speaker 16: to think that there's someone with enough time and resources
• 37:37
  Speaker 16: to challenge this shit legally. Pardon my French, sorry Danny,
• 37:41
  Speaker 16: but genuinely this is out of control and it's that slippery,
• 37:45
  Speaker 16: slippery slope. Oh, we're just doing it for your own good,
• 37:47
  Speaker 16: We're just doing it for your safety. If my dog
• 37:50
  Speaker 16: was still alive and those you know, And if I
• 37:52
  Speaker 16: lived in Victoria and I was within peeing distance, I'd
• 37:55
  Speaker 16: train old mate Buster to cock his leg on those
• 37:57
  Speaker 16: cameras and that would be my one active civil des
• 38:00
  Speaker 16: obedience because it is absolutely nonsense. I've just come back
• 38:03
  Speaker 16: from three days in Victoria. So many issues down there,
• 38:07
  Speaker 16: like so many people sleeping rough I've never seen it
• 38:10
  Speaker 16: like that before, literally in you know, sleeping bags in
• 38:15
  Speaker 16: the side of the road. You know, forget about under shelters.
• 38:17
  Speaker 16: Why doesn't the City of Port Phillips say, you know,
• 38:19
  Speaker 16: we're we going to waste money on that. We're going
• 38:21
  Speaker 16: to invest it in helping the homeless, in helping our
• 38:23
  Speaker 16: community and actually.
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: Building a better community.
• 38:26
  Speaker 17: For the most vulnerable among us.
• 38:27
  Speaker 16: Now we're just going to be a bunch of Karens
• 38:29
  Speaker 16: and spy on people walking their dogs because we can
• 38:32
  Speaker 16: what miserable, miserable cretness.
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: People could not have said it better.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Myself want to go quickly because there's one more thing
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: I want to get to. But I'm going to give
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: you another example of council madness, as I said, Waverley
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: Council denying permission for local residents to build a garage
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: in part because it would go against their policy of
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: encouraging people to use public transport.
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: Joe, what do you think about this?
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: They're literally saying we prefer you to use the bus
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: so you can't have a garage for your car.
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: That's massive overreach, isn't it.
• 39:02
  Speaker 15: Yeah? Rest assured.
• 39:03
  Speaker 18: The Daily Telegraph is campaigning very heavily on this issue, James,
• 39:06
  Speaker 18: and I was just having a chat about it on
• 39:10
  Speaker 18: d T TV with your namesake and our colleague James Morrow.
• 39:14
  Speaker 15: It seems to be part of a kind of war on.
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: Cars that that that cities and city councils are waging
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: at the moment. I again, I just do not understand
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: if if a proposal doesn't stack up for you know,
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: for for developmental reasons, if it's unsafe, or if it's unsightedly,
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: that's one thing, And even then I think it's probably arguable.
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: But to just say we are going to deny this
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: because we don't approve of your lifestyle choices, I think
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: where I think where that ends, honestly. But but you know,
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: BONDI quite frankly anyone who tries to park a car
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: and Bond I would think that, you know, spending millions
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: of bucks on an underground car park is probably actually
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: cheaper than the old team.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: You make a great point, Joe, If you don't push
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: back against things like this, where does it end?
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: Just quickly? We're running out of time.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: But I got to talk about rumors all over social
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: media at the weekend that US President Donald Trump had died.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: Trump just took a couple of days off. But such
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: as Trump's omnipresence when he assumed the only reason.
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: He could be silent was that he was dead.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: Now, of course that wasn't true, but it didn't stop
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: some people wishing for it. Haven't listened to Minnesota Governor
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: Tim Waltz, This bloke who came within a whisker of
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: being Vice president, told a crowd not to worry because
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: one day Trump will be dead.
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: You get up in the morning and you doom scroll
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: through things.
• 40:35
  Speaker 15: And although I will say this, the last few days.
• 40:38
  Speaker 12: You woke up thinking there might be news, Sam, Sam,
• 40:45
  Speaker 12: there will be news sometime, just so you know there
• 40:47
  Speaker 12: will be news.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: Jim, this is the guy who campaigned on love and
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: tolerance and the need for respect.
• 40:54
  Speaker 16: This is the guy who currently is like a footnote
• 40:57
  Speaker 16: in a random Wikipedia page. He is and nobody has
• 41:00
  Speaker 16: done nothing, leaves nothing, leaves no legacy of worth, and
• 41:03
  Speaker 16: that's all he's got to contribute. What a pitifully sad human.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: Indeed, Jemma Joe really appreciate your time tonight.
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: Thanks to both of you.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: We're going to go to a break stick around coming
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: up the Australian medical shortages that have left parents with
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: little options to help their ADHD affected kids, some even
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: resorting to giving them energy drinks as a substitute. What
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: is going on with that? I will be joined by
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: a child psychologist in just a moment. Okay, we've got
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: to talk about what's going on with our kids. Latest
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: data from the Australian Institute of Health and Welfare shows
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: around six hundred thousand Australians of all ages are on
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: ADHD medication. That's two percent of the population, and of
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: course a lot of those are children. The medication is
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: used to help control their moods and behavior. But what
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: happens if that medication is suddenly unavailable. Well that's the
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: situation we find ours in right now.
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: There's a national.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: Shortage of ADHD drugs and parents are concerned. Joining me
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: now is child and Adolescent psychologist Claire Row Claire, thanks
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: for coming on the program. Just before we get into
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: what's happening in the implications, how many children rely on
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: ADHD medication and how important is it?
• 42:21
  Speaker 17: Yeah, good evening, James.
• 42:23
  Speaker 19: Look in twenty twenty four, we know that nearly three
• 42:26
  Speaker 19: hundred thousand Australian children were medicated on some type of
• 42:31
  Speaker 19: psychostimulant or medication specifically used for ADHD. But I think
• 42:36
  Speaker 19: the most important figure is that that was an eighteen
• 42:40
  Speaker 19: percent increase from the year before, and that trend has
• 42:43
  Speaker 19: been going on for the last decade. So these are
• 42:46
  Speaker 19: medications that are being used increasingly at an exponential rate
• 42:51
  Speaker 19: and many families and children have come to rely on.
• 42:55
  Speaker 19: So we estimate that about six to ten percent of
• 42:59
  Speaker 19: Australian children have ADHD and about six or seven percent
• 43:03
  Speaker 19: of them are medicated, So in the.
• 43:06
  Speaker 17: Entire child population it's no small figure.
• 43:09
  Speaker 19: There are a lot of families in panic mode, I
• 43:12
  Speaker 19: would say about the shortage, and we've seen other shortages
• 43:15
  Speaker 19: of medications in previous years. Last year there was a
• 43:19
  Speaker 19: brand called Vyvance that was short This year it's Ritalin,
• 43:23
  Speaker 19: and this happens in the pharmaceutical industry from time to time,
• 43:27
  Speaker 19: but I've already seen Facebook groups spring up where parents
• 43:31
  Speaker 19: are commenting about which pharmacy they can get to and
• 43:34
  Speaker 19: who has supply of it.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm really curious about this because you mentioned so
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: many parents now rely on this drug in order to
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure what the correct term is, but essentially
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: moderate their child's mood. You can correct me if I've
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: got that wrong. That sounds kind of dangerous to me,
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: especially then when you can get a situation where those
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: drugs are unavailable.
• 43:56
  Speaker 19: Yeah, so what we're doing is is moderating or minimizing
• 43:59
  Speaker 19: us apse. The symptoms of ADHD, and they are mood,
• 44:04
  Speaker 19: which is emotional regulation, but also you know, aggression, impulsivity, distractability, concentration.
• 44:10
  Speaker 17: Look, there are a lot of kids.
• 44:13
  Speaker 19: ADSD is a very real disorder where medication is not
• 44:16
  Speaker 19: just a nice to have. It's often the difference between
• 44:19
  Speaker 19: being able to function socially and not. After saying that,
• 44:23
  Speaker 19: I'm one of the professionals who have warned against an
• 44:26
  Speaker 19: over diagnosis of this condition and over reliance now on medication,
• 44:32
  Speaker 19: I think it does bring up this point when we
• 44:34
  Speaker 19: have a pharmaceutical shortage, about how deeply some families come
• 44:39
  Speaker 19: to believe that their child simply cannot function without appeal,
• 44:45
  Speaker 19: and I think that raises other questions, and they are
• 44:49
  Speaker 19: you know what other supports are being put in place
• 44:53
  Speaker 19: as well as.
• 44:53
  Speaker 17: Medication, Psychosocial supports.
• 44:57
  Speaker 19: Accommodations in the classroom, behavior notifications, behavioral therapies, even things
• 45:03
  Speaker 19: like sleep, diet, exercise, all those things need to.
• 45:07
  Speaker 17: Be looked at with kids before or as well as medication.
• 45:11
  Speaker 17: So when we just have a reliance on medication and we.
• 45:15
  Speaker 19: Have a shortage, this is showing it up in the
• 45:18
  Speaker 19: panic that families are feeling.
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: All right in the time we've got left.
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: There's one other issue I wanted to ask you about,
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: and that's children diagnosed with autism. Parents are divided over
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: whether their autistic children require mainstream education or a specialized school.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: And while many parents want their children to be educated
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: in real world settings, a recent survey found eight in
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: ten parents are actually concerned about the lack of support
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: in mainstream schools. So they would appear to be caught
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: in a contradiction. They want real world setting, but they
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: also want extra help. How do you reconcile those two issues.
• 45:53
  Speaker 19: Well, yeah, look, I have spoken out in recent weeks
• 45:56
  Speaker 19: with some criticism about both the NDIS and what is
• 46:00
  Speaker 19: termed the neuro affirming movement that I think in some
• 46:03
  Speaker 19: pockets has become quite radical, and I think here in
• 46:06
  Speaker 19: lies the tension. I think parents have autistic children, of
• 46:10
  Speaker 19: which I'd say the loudest voices at the table are
• 46:14
  Speaker 19: the ones that require the least supports.
• 46:18
  Speaker 17: They don't like the term mild autism. They get offended
• 46:21
  Speaker 17: by that.
• 46:22
  Speaker 19: I say, that's highly offensive to a parent with a
• 46:25
  Speaker 19: profoundly disabled child. But anyway, and I think on one hand,
• 46:29
  Speaker 19: they want their kids in mainstream schools. The neuro affirming
• 46:33
  Speaker 19: movement would say that autism is a very natural and
• 46:37
  Speaker 19: normal part of human development and is not a deficit.
• 46:41
  Speaker 19: But on the other hand, they say that they want
• 46:44
  Speaker 19: substantial government resources and support. So it's not just a
• 46:49
  Speaker 19: niche issue.
• 46:50
  Speaker 17: James.
• 46:50
  Speaker 19: I think this is costing federal tax bayers five billion
• 46:55
  Speaker 19: dollars a year in disability payments to schools. And let
• 46:58
  Speaker 19: me be clear, that's not the end that's on top
• 47:02
  Speaker 19: of that's separate to the NDIS.
• 47:04
  Speaker 17: This is funding going.
• 47:05
  Speaker 19: Directly to schools to support a growing number of kids
• 47:11
  Speaker 19: now who are labeled as disabled. So we need to
• 47:15
  Speaker 19: have a look about where we place these kids, whether
• 47:18
  Speaker 19: they are in specialized schools or whether a mainstream public
• 47:22
  Speaker 19: school system can support them adequately.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: You mentioned the five billion dollars annually spent supporting kids
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: with disabilities in our schools. You also mentioned the fact
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: that more and more kids are being diagnosed with disabilities.
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: This is a big issue.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: Do you see any way that it's going to be
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: resolved or is this just something we're going to live
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: with from now on?
• 47:43
  Speaker 17: Well, I think it requires some honesty in my profession.
• 47:47
  Speaker 19: As I said, I have had a huge amount of
• 47:49
  Speaker 19: backlash for calling out in recent weeks fraudulent behavior going
• 47:53
  Speaker 19: on in the NDIS. I've had backlash from my own
• 47:56
  Speaker 19: profession reporting me to regulatory bodies. Think if we can't
• 48:00
  Speaker 19: even have that conversation, we're in really murky waters.
• 48:06
  Speaker 17: I think it.
• 48:07
  Speaker 19: Does require resourcing and training within smaller classrooms and so forth.
• 48:11
  Speaker 19: But also I think specialized schools shouldn't have a stigma.
• 48:17
  Speaker 17: And so for some families, it's not about exclusion.
• 48:20
  Speaker 19: It's about the most compassionate and the most genuine environment
• 48:24
  Speaker 19: that can help their kids thrive.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: And so I Understan Clear, You're absolutely right, Clear you're
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: absolutely right on that. I appreciate you filling us in
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: this evening, thanks so much. Well, that's all I've got
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: time for tonight, but don't go anywhere. Coming up right
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: now is Sherry Markson. Good Night,