Latest / DISGRACELAND / The Runaways: Exploited by the Music Industry, Escape, and Excellent Rock ‘N’ Roll
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- 0:00Speaker 1: This episode contains content that may be disturbing to some listeners.
- 0:03Speaker 1: Please check the show notes for more information.
- 0:07Speaker 2: Disgraceland is a production of Double Elvis.
- 0:21Speaker 1: This is a.
- 0:22Speaker 2: Story about transformation, about what happens when you don't just
- 0:26Speaker 2: play rock and roll, when you use it to become
- 0:29Speaker 2: someone new, someone louder than, someone impossible to ignore. It's
- 0:34Speaker 2: a story about five teenage girls who turned identity into
- 0:38Speaker 2: a weapon, who took rock and roll rebellion and pushed
- 0:41Speaker 2: it past the point of no return. It's also a
- 0:44Speaker 2: story about escape, escape from the valley, escape from your parents,
- 0:49Speaker 2: escape from polite society. And it's a story about the
- 0:53Speaker 2: price of that escape, about the predators who circled, and
- 0:57Speaker 2: about the exploitation disguised as mentor, and about how, in
- 1:01Speaker 2: the most messed up twist of all, transformation was both
- 1:05Speaker 2: the trap and the key. This is a story about
- 1:09Speaker 2: the runaways, and so naturally it's a story about great music.
- 1:14Speaker 2: Unlike that clip I played for you at the top
- 1:16Speaker 2: of the show that wasn't great music. That was a
- 1:19Speaker 2: preset loop for my melotron called the Kids Are Not
- 1:22Speaker 2: Alright MK one. I played you that loop because I
- 1:27Speaker 2: can't afford the rights to December nineteen sixty three. Oh
- 1:30Speaker 2: what a night by the Four Seasons? And why would
- 1:34Speaker 2: I play you that specific slice of falsetto disco Cheese?
- 1:37Speaker 1: Could I afford it?
- 1:39Speaker 2: Because that was the number one song in America on
- 1:43Speaker 2: March sixteenth, nineteen seventy six, And that was the day
- 1:46Speaker 2: the teenagers Joan Jet Scherie Curry, lead a Ford, Jackie Fox,
- 1:51Speaker 2: and Sandy West released their debut album as The Runaways,
- 1:55Speaker 2: and nothing in their lives or in the world of
- 1:57Speaker 2: rock and roll would ever be.
- 1:59Speaker 1: The same.
- 2:02Speaker 2: On this episode Rebellion, Escape, Predators, Exploitation, and the White
- 2:08Speaker 2: Hot Cherry Bomb.
- 2:09Speaker 1: That was The Runaways.
- 2:12Speaker 2: I'm Jake Brennan and this is this Graceland. Thirteen year
- 2:47Speaker 2: old Kerry Krouse wanted to be someone else. She didn't
- 2:51Speaker 2: want this shitty apartment and the latest in a series
- 2:54Speaker 2: of shitty apartments. She didn't want the stepdad with the
- 2:57Speaker 2: bad temper either. She didn't want the view of the
- 3:00Speaker 2: ocean and the horizon. All this vastness and nowhere to go.
- 3:04Speaker 2: Views like these inspired Awe and some people, But to
- 3:08Speaker 2: Carrie being here, being in Long Beach, California, it was suffocating.
- 3:13Speaker 1: Nothing but the repressions.
- 3:14Speaker 2: Of polite society bearing down on her. She needed an out,
- 3:19Speaker 2: But first she turned inward, writing songs inspired by David Bowie,
- 3:24Speaker 2: not only her idol, but the template for who she
- 3:27Speaker 2: now wanted to become. Bowie was once someone else, someone
- 3:31Speaker 2: completely different.
- 3:32Speaker 1: Now one day he just up and left the.
- 3:34Speaker 2: Man known as David Jones behind, and he escaped David Jones.
- 3:38Speaker 2: And now he was the Starman. He was ziggy, he
- 3:42Speaker 2: was Aladdin, sane. David Bowie gave you permission to escape,
- 3:46Speaker 2: escape from the world he lived in, but more importantly,
- 3:49Speaker 2: escape from whoever the world wanted you to be. So
- 3:53Speaker 2: Carrie altered the spelling of her first name from Cie
- 3:58Speaker 2: to kr I. Carrie Krouse became carry Chrome, and then
- 4:04Speaker 2: Carrie Chrome escaped for real. She stood on the side
- 4:08Speaker 2: of the road, stuck out her thumb, hitched a ride
- 4:11Speaker 2: and went inland, where she took a long hit off
- 4:13Speaker 2: the joint that was being passed around and slung her
- 4:16Speaker 2: head back, watching the painted red and orange neon lights
- 4:20Speaker 2: bleed into the night sky. Nineteen seventy five, Hollywood, down
- 4:30Speaker 2: on Sunset Boulevard, Latchkey, kids from the suburbs were gravitating
- 4:34Speaker 2: to Rodney's English disco ground zero for all things glam
- 4:38Speaker 2: and glitter and best of all transgressive. Cary Chrome climbed
- 4:43Speaker 2: out of the car, slammed the door shut, and watched
- 4:45Speaker 2: as the strangers who had given her a lift drove
- 4:48Speaker 2: off into the distance. She had no idea how to
- 4:51Speaker 2: get back home, but who cared. She wasn't going back there,
- 4:54Speaker 2: not in any meaningful way. At least, this was the place.
- 4:59Speaker 2: These were her people, the girls who looked like the boys,
- 5:02Speaker 2: and the boys who looked like the girls. The rooster hair,
- 5:06Speaker 2: the rhinestones, the sequins and platform heels, all of its
- 5:10Speaker 2: soundtracked not by Captain and Taneil or the fucking eagles Man,
- 5:15Speaker 2: but by the New York Dolls, t Rex the Sweet,
- 5:19Speaker 2: and that permanent badass of leather clad rock and roll
- 5:22Speaker 2: Susie Quatro. Carrie took it all in. For the first
- 5:27Speaker 2: time in a long time. She felt at ease. But
- 5:30Speaker 2: it wasn't enough to simply be there in the crowd.
- 5:33Speaker 2: Carrie Chrome would be an active participant. She wanted to
- 5:36Speaker 2: be the one to write the songs of tomorrow, the
- 5:38Speaker 2: ones local legend DJ Chucky east Starr would spin for
- 5:42Speaker 2: this clamorous crowd. It was a crowd that on any
- 5:45Speaker 2: given night included everyone from Robert and Bonzo of led Zeppelin,
- 5:48Speaker 2: to Ray and Dave of the Kinks, to the once
- 5:50Speaker 2: boy King himself Elvis Presley. Who knows she could run
- 5:54Speaker 2: into Iggy Pop or Elton John Slip from a page
- 5:57Speaker 2: of her lyrics, maybe even run into Boie himself. But
- 6:01Speaker 2: it wasn't Bowie or Iggy or Elton that Carrie Chrome
- 6:05Speaker 2: met when she went to Hollywood. Instead, she was introduced
- 6:09Speaker 2: to another songwriter and music producer, a man named Kim Foley.
- 6:14Speaker 2: Foley's resume was scattershot but impressive. He'd written for Warren Zevon,
- 6:20Speaker 2: Alice Cooper and the Birds, and produced songs by Gene
- 6:23Speaker 2: Vincent and Jonathan Richmond. But what really mattered to Carrie
- 6:27Speaker 2: was that he seemed genuinely interested in her songs. He
- 6:31Speaker 2: said she had real talent and that with his guidance,
- 6:34Speaker 2: she could be somebody somebody else. And so, on her
- 6:39Speaker 2: fourteenth birthday, Carrie Chrome signed a contract with the thirty
- 6:43Speaker 2: six year old Kim Foley to write songs for his
- 6:46Speaker 2: production company, The one hundred dollars a month that she
- 6:49Speaker 2: got paid simply to do what she loved. Was empowering.
- 6:53Speaker 2: So was the fact that Foley loved her next idea,
- 6:56Speaker 2: which was to put together an all girl rock band
- 6:58Speaker 2: to play her songs. But where Carrie saw autonomy, self
- 7:02Speaker 2: reliance and girl power, Kim Foley saw something more sinister.
- 7:07Speaker 2: The band he would assemble would be marketed not just
- 7:10Speaker 2: as girls, but.
- 7:11Speaker 1: As underage girls.
- 7:13Speaker 2: Their lead singer, Sherie Curry, a blonde Valley girl, would
- 7:17Speaker 2: be their rock and roll Lolita, just like Sue Lyons
- 7:20Speaker 2: in that Stanley Kubrick movie. Along with Joan jen and
- 7:24Speaker 2: lead a Forward on guitar, Sandy West on drums, and
- 7:27Speaker 2: Jackie Fox on bass, all of them fifteen or sixteen
- 7:31Speaker 2: years old at the time. The band that Kim Fowley
- 7:34Speaker 2: soon christened the Runaways weren't just avatars of teenage rebellion
- 7:38Speaker 2: and juvenile delinquentcyne.
- 7:40Speaker 1: They were jailbaiting.
- 7:42Speaker 2: Okay, so listen up. Before we continue with this story,
- 7:46Speaker 2: I need to set the table for just how fucked
- 7:49Speaker 2: up this era of rock and roll was. We've talked
- 7:51Speaker 2: about this in some detail before, but it needs to
- 7:54Speaker 2: be said again. Kim Fowley wasn't the only one here
- 7:57Speaker 2: being a total creep. This was the same time I'm
- 8:00Speaker 2: the Jimmy Page and David Bowie and so many other
- 8:03Speaker 2: powerful musicians were sleeping with underage girls. This is when
- 8:07Speaker 2: Ringo Starr had a number one hit song called You're Sixteen,
- 8:11Speaker 2: which has the refrain you're sixteen, You're beautiful in your mind.
- 8:16Speaker 2: This is when a journalist, in a cover story for
- 8:18Speaker 2: the rock magazine Crawdaddy, wrote this about watching the Runaways perform,
- 8:22Speaker 2: and I quote, suddenly I am overcome with the urge
- 8:26Speaker 2: to jack off against the stage and get my teeth
- 8:29Speaker 2: kicked out by a vicious roadie, claw my way through
- 8:31Speaker 2: a thousand demented teenagers puking cheap wine and looted out
- 8:35Speaker 2: of their cerebral cortexes, just so I could touch the
- 8:38Speaker 2: platform boots of these sixteen year old girls.
- 8:41Speaker 1: Unquote.
- 8:43Speaker 2: This journalist, by the way, Charles M.
- 8:46Speaker 1: Young.
- 8:47Speaker 2: He was twenty five years old when he wrote this,
- 8:49Speaker 2: and he went on to become the editor at Rolling Stone. Now,
- 8:54Speaker 2: as totally gross as that is, it was sixteen year
- 8:58Speaker 2: old Shari Curry, the Runaways lead singer, who had the
- 9:01Speaker 2: idea to buy a revealing corset that she saw in
- 9:03Speaker 2: a shop window on Sunset Boulevard and use it as
- 9:06Speaker 2: a stage.
- 9:06Speaker 1: Propt every show.
- 9:08Speaker 2: When it came time to perform her signature song Cherrybomb,
- 9:11Speaker 2: which Jon Jett and Kim Fowley reportedly wrote for her,
- 9:13Speaker 2: in thirty minutes, she would change out of her silver
- 9:16Speaker 2: lamet jumpsuit and into the corset. In her mind, she
- 9:20Speaker 2: was the one in power, not the skeevy journalist dry
- 9:23Speaker 2: humping the stage or the manager orchestrating some dirty old
- 9:26Speaker 2: man fantasy. In her mind, she was simply doing what
- 9:30Speaker 2: her hero David Bowie had done before her. And if
- 9:32Speaker 2: Sharie was Bowie, then Joan was Susie Quatro, and Jackie
- 9:36Speaker 2: was Gene Simmons of Kiss and Ledo was Deep Purple's
- 9:38Speaker 2: Richie Blackmore, and Sandy was Queen's Roger Taylor. This is
- 9:42Speaker 2: how they saw themselves as equals to the rock stars
- 9:45Speaker 2: who inspired them from the jump. The Runaways had the attitude,
- 9:49Speaker 2: the drive and the chops to keep up with their idols,
- 9:53Speaker 2: and with Kim Fowley's industry contacts, many doors were being
- 9:56Speaker 2: opened for them. Before too long, cheap trick and petty
- 10:00Speaker 2: were opening for them. But it was what was happening
- 10:05Speaker 2: behind closed doors that was truly horrifying. In her memoir,
- 10:11Speaker 2: Shari Curry writes that Kim Foley once had sex with
- 10:14Speaker 2: a visibly intoxicated adult woman in front of the entire
- 10:17Speaker 2: band so that they could learn, in his words, quote
- 10:21Speaker 2: the right way to fuck unquote. Jackie Fox later alleged
- 10:25Speaker 2: that Folly drugged and raped her in front of a
- 10:27Speaker 2: crowd of people immediately following the Runaway's debut show on
- 10:31Speaker 2: New Year's Eve in nineteen seventy five, and Carrie Crome
- 10:34Speaker 2: was only fourteen when she said Folly masturbated on her.
- 10:40Speaker 2: While Jackie tamped down feelings of shame and disgust and
- 10:44Speaker 2: shock over what happened to her, Carrie was not so
- 10:47Speaker 2: equipped to compartmentalize, and she spiraled, watching her teenage dream
- 10:52Speaker 2: unravel before her eyes. She'd been taking advantage of sexually assaulted,
- 10:57Speaker 2: watched it happen to others too, and now Kim Foley
- 10:59Speaker 2: was taking credit for the songs Carrie had written and
- 11:02Speaker 2: was even denying her royalties. So Carrie split, dropped out
- 11:06Speaker 2: of school, became addicted to drugs, and, like our hero
- 11:09Speaker 2: David Bowie, became someone else for the second time in
- 11:12Speaker 2: her young life, but this time her life was an art.
- 11:17Speaker 2: Her life imitated art. Soon Carrie Crone was living on streets,
- 11:22Speaker 2: crashing on couches, and Carrie was no longer one of
- 11:25Speaker 2: the runaways. Instead, she was simply a runaway. And when
- 11:30Speaker 2: her friends and the band soon found themselves in real trouble,
- 11:34Speaker 2: far from home, with no one else to turn to,
- 11:37Speaker 2: Kim finally kept betraying them, and they kept looking for
- 11:40Speaker 2: new ways to escape. September nineteen seventy six, England, Joan
- 12:15Speaker 2: Jett was pissed, this time not a Kim Foley, but another.
- 12:20Speaker 1: Man who better down.
- 12:21Speaker 2: Robert Plant, led Zeppelin's lead singer, was as enamored with
- 12:25Speaker 2: the Runaways as the next jailbait chasing horn dog. In fact,
- 12:29Speaker 2: Kim Foley even got Robert Plant his own Runaways T
- 12:32Speaker 2: shirt to wear. The girls all wore shirts that had
- 12:35Speaker 2: their names printed below the band's name, but for Robert Plant,
- 12:38Speaker 2: below the Runaway's logo his red Robert loves Kim.
- 12:43Speaker 1: That's not what Joan Jet was pissed off about, though.
- 12:45Speaker 2: Give Robert Plant a T shirt, who cares? Give him
- 12:47Speaker 2: a thousand T shirts? Whatever would help the Runaway's incredible
- 12:50Speaker 2: self titled debut album climb higher than number one hundred
- 12:53Speaker 2: and ninety four on the Billboard Album chart, which is
- 12:55Speaker 2: where it installed since its release a few months prior.
- 13:00Speaker 1: Far it wasn't working.
- 13:01Speaker 2: UK fans were way more into the record than people
- 13:04Speaker 2: back in the States, and even England's own version of
- 13:07Speaker 2: the so called manufactured band controlled by Sean Gali, the
- 13:10Speaker 2: Sex Pistols, took notice. Sid Vicious, for one, did more
- 13:14Speaker 2: than notice. He put his hands all over Jones's body
- 13:17Speaker 2: despite her protests. The next thing Sid new Sandy West
- 13:22Speaker 2: was grabbing him by the lapels and tossing him into
- 13:24Speaker 2: the Thames. The Runaways was all Sandy knew. It was
- 13:29Speaker 2: the only stable thing that she had in her life.
- 13:32Speaker 2: So if some safety pin wearing punk rocker was going
- 13:34Speaker 2: to threaten that, Sandy would do what she had to
- 13:36Speaker 2: in order to protect him. But I digress, So back
- 13:42Speaker 2: to the story. There was Joan Jet along with the
- 13:44Speaker 2: rest of the band, standing at a dock in Dover,
- 13:47Speaker 2: waiting for the ferry to take them to Paris, where
- 13:50Speaker 2: their manager, Scott Anderson told them that the show that
- 13:53Speaker 2: night was already sold out. And this is where Robert
- 13:56Speaker 2: Plant from led Zeppelin comes in back in Los Angeles.
- 14:02Speaker 2: At one of their shows at the star Ward, Robert
- 14:04Speaker 2: had shown up in the runaway's dressing room with his
- 14:07Speaker 2: locks of Greek godhaired equally godlike smile. The girls were
- 14:12Speaker 2: all over him. Joan Jet tried to play a cool
- 14:14Speaker 2: rocking that trademark Joan Jet attitude, the swagger, the ambiguous
- 14:18Speaker 2: look that said she was either about to fuck you
- 14:20Speaker 2: up or rock your face off.
- 14:22Speaker 1: But it was hard to play.
- 14:23Speaker 2: A cool seeing as though the line for the show
- 14:25Speaker 2: that night stretched down the block and around the corner,
- 14:28Speaker 2: and it was hard to keep your cool, as Joan
- 14:31Speaker 2: demonstrated when some dude put his fat hands on Shari's
- 14:34Speaker 2: legs and ripped her stockings right off. That night, fat
- 14:37Speaker 2: handed dude got a face full of Joan's metallic platform boot,
- 14:43Speaker 2: and now standing on the shore in Dover, England, exhausted,
- 14:47Speaker 2: ready to collapse on the incoming ferry, Joan wanted to
- 14:50Speaker 2: put that metallic platform boot to the face of Robert
- 14:54Speaker 2: Plant because a police inspector from Scotland Yard had detained
- 14:58Speaker 2: Joan in the rest of the band, preventing them from
- 15:00Speaker 2: going to France, and it was Robert Plant's fault. Flanked
- 15:05Speaker 2: by a couple of officers, the inspector ordered the girls
- 15:08Speaker 2: to empty their backs. Hotels in England were reporting that
- 15:11Speaker 2: items had gone missing from rooms that the runaways had
- 15:14Speaker 2: stayed in. In British law enforcement, as it had proven
- 15:17Speaker 2: so definitively years earlier in its relentless persecution of the
- 15:21Speaker 2: Rolling Stones and the Beatles, were eager to put these
- 15:24Speaker 2: smug American rock and roll girls in their place. First,
- 15:28Speaker 2: Sandy turned over her back, a hotel hairdryer came tumbling out,
- 15:32Speaker 2: and then Joan turned her bag upside down, and all
- 15:35Speaker 2: sorts of hotel room keys rained onto the ground. More
- 15:38Speaker 2: bags were searched, and more keys were found, more than
- 15:41Speaker 2: thirty in total. Fucking Robert Plant. Back to the Starwood.
- 15:46Speaker 2: Joan had asked him what were the best souvenirs to
- 15:49Speaker 2: get while on tour, and Robert had told her all
- 15:51Speaker 2: about his ritual of collecting room keys from every hotel
- 15:55Speaker 2: he stayed a And now.
- 15:56Speaker 1: This little piece of harmless advice.
- 15:58Speaker 2: Had landed the runaways not just in hot water, but
- 16:01Speaker 2: incredibly in jail. Joan Jet was grabbing the bars of
- 16:09Speaker 2: her cell, her knuckles white, her face red, trying to
- 16:13Speaker 2: shake the loose and screaming at the top of her lungs.
- 16:17Speaker 2: She was the oldest in this group and had just
- 16:19Speaker 2: turned eighteen, and she was getting the adult treatment. So
- 16:22Speaker 2: while the rest of the band could be together inside
- 16:24Speaker 2: a holding room with bunk beds, Joan was freaking out
- 16:27Speaker 2: inside a cold, cramped jail cell all on her own.
- 16:31Speaker 2: Not that things were going any better over in that
- 16:33Speaker 2: holding room, tensions were high. The girls had been informed
- 16:39Speaker 2: that they'd have to remain behind bars for at least
- 16:42Speaker 2: as long as it would take for the cops to
- 16:43Speaker 2: retrieve their luggage and search it. The thing was, their
- 16:47Speaker 2: luggage had already been put on that ferry over to France,
- 16:50Speaker 2: so it was going to be a minute to get
- 16:51Speaker 2: it back to England. And when they did, Charif, for one,
- 16:54Speaker 2: was freaking out about what they'd find inside, because in
- 16:57Speaker 2: one of those bags was her makeup case, and inside
- 17:00Speaker 2: that makeup case, Sharie had hidden a bunch of cocaine. Technically,
- 17:05Speaker 2: the coke belonged to the Runaways tour manager Scott Anderson.
- 17:09Speaker 2: Scott was Jones age eighteen, but those extra couple of
- 17:12Speaker 2: years experience over the rest of the girls were clutched
- 17:15Speaker 2: when it came to procure the necessary ingredients of the
- 17:17Speaker 2: rock and roll lifestyle. If you needed your cocaine cut
- 17:20Speaker 2: up into neat little lines, Scott was your guy.
- 17:23Speaker 1: If you needed some prescription.
- 17:25Speaker 2: Grade downers like placid, Scott was your guy. Booze Scott
- 17:29Speaker 2: could obviously get that for you as well. The girls
- 17:32Speaker 2: were supposed to have tutors out on tour with them.
- 17:34Speaker 2: This was one of the many promises that came a
- 17:36Speaker 2: folly so wilfully failed to deliver on. Instead, they had
- 17:40Speaker 2: guys like Scott, and now Sharie Curry had Scott Anderson's
- 17:44Speaker 2: problem smuggled inside her luggage. Chari was sweating like crazy,
- 17:49Speaker 2: doubled over where she was sitting on the concrete floor.
- 17:52Speaker 2: She fell ill thinking about what would happen if those
- 17:54Speaker 2: drugs were found. She was in a foreign country and
- 17:57Speaker 2: she was only sixteen. Were wearing off, and now panic, dread,
- 18:02Speaker 2: and sickness deep in her stomach began to consume her.
- 18:05Speaker 2: She and Scott had been engaged in a sexual relationship
- 18:08Speaker 2: on the road, as well as what Shari thought was
- 18:10Speaker 2: a deeply emotional relationship. Surely, as a result of this,
- 18:14Speaker 2: Shuri assumed Scott was prepared to do the chivalrous thing
- 18:17Speaker 2: and tell the cops that if it was found, the
- 18:20Speaker 2: cooke was his. But that night, when Scott paid a
- 18:25Speaker 2: visit to the girls in lac Up, Scott made it
- 18:28Speaker 2: very clear that he intended to do no such thing.
- 18:32Speaker 2: What he intended, and what kim Fowley also intended, was
- 18:35Speaker 2: that Shari would take the fall and face the consequences.
- 18:41Speaker 2: The knight felt like an eternity. At some point the
- 18:45Speaker 2: guards took pity on Joan and moved her from her
- 18:47Speaker 2: solitary jail cell to the holding room with everybody else.
- 18:51Speaker 2: By the time the sun came up, the sickness and
- 18:53Speaker 2: the pito Scheri's stomach was overwhelming. They heard footsteps coming
- 18:58Speaker 2: down the hall.
- 18:59Speaker 1: All five I've.
- 19:00Speaker 2: Runaways craned their necks to get a look at who
- 19:02Speaker 2: was coming to visit. It was the inspector from Scotland
- 19:05Speaker 2: Yard who had originally arrested them. He had news their
- 19:09Speaker 2: luggage had been located. Scharie's heart rates spite she waited
- 19:13Speaker 2: for him to hold up her makeup bag and asked
- 19:16Speaker 2: who exactly this belonged to, But the inspector did no
- 19:19Speaker 2: such thing. The luggage was clean, and they were free
- 19:23Speaker 2: to go. Somehow the cocaine had been overlooked. Schari breathed
- 19:30Speaker 2: a huge sigh of relief. Even though Scott and Kim
- 19:34Speaker 2: Fowley had left her out to dry, she still.
- 19:37Speaker 1: Managed to dodge a bullet.
- 19:39Speaker 2: That is, until she returned home to the States and
- 19:42Speaker 2: discovered the true source of the sickness she'd been experiencing.
- 19:46Speaker 2: Shari Curry was sixteen years old and pregnant. We'll be
- 19:55Speaker 2: right back after this word word word. Joan jet hammered
- 20:10Speaker 2: out the opening riff for the runaway song Born to
- 20:13Speaker 2: Be Bad on her Gibson melody Maker. Her bright red
- 20:16Speaker 2: leather jumps and shimmered under his subtle stage lights, and
- 20:18Speaker 2: her shock of black hair stood defiant as the song
- 20:21Speaker 2: slow start in unabashed girl group homage suddenly turned into loud,
- 20:26Speaker 2: slashing power chords that knotted a punk rock no doubt,
- 20:29Speaker 2: one of the old girl group genre's many descendants. Sandy
- 20:33Speaker 2: came thundering in on the drums with Jackie and leda
- 20:35Speaker 2: close behind on bassi guitar, respectively, and the stage lights exploded,
- 20:40Speaker 2: and then Joan belted out the title chorus into the
- 20:43Speaker 2: microphone with a sneer. The audience went nuts. Cherie was
- 20:47Speaker 2: a killer front woman, no doubt, but Joan had that
- 20:50Speaker 2: underdog gear like Pete Townsend next to Roger Daltrey. Joan
- 20:54Speaker 2: had the place mesmerized. And then something cut Joan's eye.
- 21:00Speaker 2: It was just a glimmer out there in the crowd,
- 21:02Speaker 2: one of the lights catching a piece of metal, and
- 21:04Speaker 2: then the metal erupted in bright red and orange, and
- 21:07Speaker 2: the sound of machine gun firing drowned out the sound
- 21:09Speaker 2: of the band. People in the audience hit the floor
- 21:12Speaker 2: and others ran screaming for the exit. Joan felt bullets
- 21:16Speaker 2: ripped through her body. She collapsed on the stage floor,
- 21:19Speaker 2: crying out in pain, looking around to see if anyone
- 21:21Speaker 2: else had been hit. And then she looked over at
- 21:23Speaker 2: her guitar lying next to her. It was covered in blood,
- 21:27Speaker 2: but it wasn't her blood. She opened her eyes wider
- 21:29Speaker 2: to make sure she was actually seeing what she thought
- 21:31Speaker 2: she was seeing. It was so clear to her now
- 21:34Speaker 2: the guitar was bleeding, the Gibson's body was riddled in
- 21:38Speaker 2: bullet holes, and the blood was just oozing from it.
- 21:42Speaker 2: Suddenly the pain got worse. It was like she wasn't
- 21:44Speaker 2: just experiencing her own pain, but she could feel what
- 21:47Speaker 2: the guitar was feeling, and it was unbearable. Joan's eyes
- 21:51Speaker 2: went wider than before, and she opened her mouth to
- 21:53Speaker 2: screen for help for someone, when all of a sudden,
- 21:57Speaker 2: Joan shot up in bed, yelling out into the dark.
- 22:01Speaker 2: She was covered in sweat and her heart was practically
- 22:03Speaker 2: beating out of her chest. She'd had nightmares like this
- 22:07Speaker 2: one before, but never this intense, and though this latest nightmare,
- 22:12Speaker 2: like the rest, hadn't been real, she couldn't help but
- 22:14Speaker 2: feel that something this crazy and this bloody could potentially
- 22:18Speaker 2: be coming around the Bend. Being a runaway had become
- 22:24Speaker 2: an endurance test. As their notoriety grew, Joan and the
- 22:28Speaker 2: girls were now being demeaned by what seemed to be
- 22:31Speaker 2: an entire world of Kim Folly's, by random older men
- 22:35Speaker 2: who had no problem calling them bitches, dykes, and cunts
- 22:38Speaker 2: every day just for being women who dared being in
- 22:42Speaker 2: a band with zero swinging dicks among them. Some days
- 22:46Speaker 2: it felt like the assholes outnumbered the real fans. Those
- 22:49Speaker 2: same assholes spent their own damn money to buy tickets
- 22:51Speaker 2: to the runaway shows, only to heckle the girls and
- 22:54Speaker 2: throw shit at them on stage. It was enough to
- 22:57Speaker 2: make you want to ditch the show early, run into them,
- 23:00Speaker 2: cry for hours, and wonder why the hell you were
- 23:03Speaker 2: putting yourself through it all. For Joon Jet and also
- 23:06Speaker 2: for lead A Ford, the negative experiences only hardened their
- 23:10Speaker 2: resolve and thickened their skin. For Sandy West, there was
- 23:14Speaker 2: simply no way she could give in to the alternative,
- 23:17Speaker 2: go back to a normal high schooler's routine, or even worse,
- 23:20Speaker 2: the life of an ordinary young adult, go back to reality.
- 23:25Speaker 1: That was a.
- 23:26Speaker 2: Fate worse than death. But for the others the stakes
- 23:31Speaker 2: were even higher. Shari had returned home from The Runaways
- 23:35Speaker 2: nineteen seventy six European tour pregnant with Scott Anderson's child.
- 23:39Speaker 2: She was sixteen years old without the means of the
- 23:42Speaker 2: ability to raise a baby, so she decided to get
- 23:45Speaker 2: an abortion, and while that was happening, Kim Falley kept the.
- 23:48Speaker 1: Proverbial show on the road.
- 23:54Speaker 2: He ushered the Runaways into the Beach Boys brother Studios
- 23:57Speaker 2: in Santa Monica to record their second album, The Queen's Noise,
- 24:00Speaker 2: while Cherie was still recovering. Because of this, she only
- 24:04Speaker 2: sang lead on half of the album's songs, while Joan sang.
- 24:08Speaker 1: The other half.
- 24:09Speaker 2: The record was released in January of nineteen seventy seven,
- 24:12Speaker 2: the same week the Ramones released their sophomore album, Leave Home,
- 24:16Speaker 2: in the same year that The Runaways conquered Japan like
- 24:19Speaker 2: they were the second coming of the Beatles.
- 24:21Speaker 1: Keep in mind that this was one year.
- 24:24Speaker 2: Before Cheap Trick, the band that used to open for
- 24:26Speaker 2: the Runaways, had hit pay dirt at Budakan for a
- 24:30Speaker 2: few weeks on the other end of the world, the
- 24:32Speaker 2: Runaways finally got the respect they deserved. But unlike Cheap Trick,
- 24:36Speaker 2: all that love on tour in Japan didn't translate to
- 24:39Speaker 2: a greater love than thus a bigger profile in the States,
- 24:43Speaker 2: because by the middle of nineteen seventy seven, there was
- 24:46Speaker 2: no love lost within the ranks of the Runaways. The
- 24:51Speaker 2: bass was beautiful. It was a white nineteen sixty five
- 24:56Speaker 2: Gibson Thunderbird, just immaculate, and it sounded incredible. For Jackie Fox,
- 25:03Speaker 2: the bass was more than just an instrument. It was
- 25:05Speaker 2: a representation of how far she'd come. But when she
- 25:09Speaker 2: first joined the Runaways she could hardly play. She was
- 25:12Speaker 2: so inexperienced, in fact, that Kim Fowley brought in Nigel Harrison,
- 25:16Speaker 2: Blondie's bass player, to lay down Jackie's tracks on the
- 25:18Speaker 2: Runaway's debut album.
- 25:21Speaker 1: Jackie worked hard.
- 25:22Speaker 2: To get better, and now, in addition to being able
- 25:24Speaker 2: to play, she knew from playing next to Joan and
- 25:27Speaker 2: Lida every night how to strike the right rock and
- 25:29Speaker 2: roll Poe was while doing so. But where she'd once
- 25:34Speaker 2: looked up to Leeda Ford, these days, it seemed all
- 25:37Speaker 2: Leda wanted to do was push Jackie around. Maybe it
- 25:41Speaker 2: was because Jackie was an easy mark. She was a
- 25:44Speaker 2: nerd by trade, a straight A student who, before joining
- 25:47Speaker 2: the Runaways had been planning to skip her senior year
- 25:50Speaker 2: of high school so that she could attend UCLA full time.
- 25:54Speaker 2: Whatever the reason, Jackie felt bullied from all sides. The
- 25:58Speaker 2: girls in the band, Kim their crew. She could understand
- 26:02Speaker 2: the guys, but Lita. There was an unspoken rule that
- 26:06Speaker 2: the girls all protected each other, though Jackie had to
- 26:09Speaker 2: admit she hadn't felt very protected ever since Folly sexually
- 26:13Speaker 2: assaulted her, and no one in the band seemed to
- 26:15Speaker 2: want to acknowledge.
- 26:16Speaker 1: It had happened. At least she had the bass.
- 26:23Speaker 2: After sound checking at one of the Runaway's final shows
- 26:26Speaker 2: in Japan, she went to place it on its stand
- 26:29Speaker 2: on the stage and noticed that the stand was unstable.
- 26:32Speaker 2: She grabbed one of the guys on the crew and
- 26:34Speaker 2: asked them to find her a better stand so that
- 26:35Speaker 2: the bass wouldn't fall over and get damaged. She knew
- 26:39Speaker 2: she shouldn't have trusted anyone on that tour to help
- 26:41Speaker 2: her with anything. And the roadie didn't listen. No one listened,
- 26:45Speaker 2: and the stand was never replaced, and the Gibson Thunderbird
- 26:48Speaker 2: tumbled over, and the next snapped, and then Jackie snapped.
- 26:56Speaker 2: She went to her hotel room, her head throbbing, her
- 26:59Speaker 2: pulse pounding, tears of rage and sadness and panic running
- 27:02Speaker 2: down her face. She couldn't keep it all in check anymore.
- 27:05Speaker 2: It was all coming to the surface, the pressure and
- 27:08Speaker 2: the mental and psychological abuse.
- 27:10Speaker 1: The rape. She didn't recognize herself.
- 27:14Speaker 2: She had become her worst fear, someone else. Jackie picked
- 27:19Speaker 2: up a coke bottle and threw it against the wall.
- 27:22Speaker 2: It shattered into pieces, just like her thunderbird. She grabbed
- 27:25Speaker 2: one of the glass shards and she jammed it into
- 27:27Speaker 2: her flesh.
- 27:29Speaker 1: Her blood was running out.
- 27:31Speaker 2: She dragged the piece of glass in a straight, jagged
- 27:33Speaker 2: line across four inches.
- 27:35Speaker 1: Of her arm.
- 27:36Speaker 2: More blood and the pain on the outside finally a
- 27:38Speaker 2: match for the pain on the inside.
- 27:41Speaker 1: The room began to spin.
- 27:44Speaker 2: She must have been screaming, because the door to her
- 27:46Speaker 2: room suddenly flung open and Serie busted it. And then
- 27:50Speaker 2: Jackie was in an ambulance, on her way to the
- 27:52Speaker 2: hospital where she would begin long journey back to the
- 27:55Speaker 2: person that she used to be. All right, guys, I'll
- 28:16Speaker 2: get back to a runaway story in just a second,
- 28:18Speaker 2: but real quick. I wanted to mention that we always
- 28:20Speaker 2: dig up way more in our research than we're able
- 28:22Speaker 2: to include in our full episodes here, Like, for instance,
- 28:25Speaker 2: this week, we uncovered this whole thing about how there
- 28:27Speaker 2: is a church out there that worships Jone Jet as
- 28:31Speaker 2: a god.
- 28:32Speaker 1: Literally for real.
- 28:33Speaker 2: It's such a crazy story that we made this mini
- 28:35Speaker 2: episode about it. And if you're a member of Disgrace
- 28:38Speaker 2: Anta All Access, you can listen to that crazy story
- 28:41Speaker 2: right now, along with all of our other weekly mini
- 28:43Speaker 2: episodes that we've got out there on a ton of artists.
- 28:45Speaker 2: All you got to do is go to disgracelandpod dot
- 28:47Speaker 2: com to find out more and become a member today.
- 28:49Speaker 2: All right, back to our story, Sandy West stuck the
- 28:57Speaker 2: barrel of the gun down the deadbeat's throat, and the
- 29:00Speaker 2: deadbeat swallowed it, his teeth clattering around the cold, hard steel.
- 29:05Speaker 2: Now that she had his attention, Sandy passed along the
- 29:07Speaker 2: message she'd been hired to deliver.
- 29:09Speaker 1: Pay up, fucksticker.
- 29:10Speaker 2: Next time, this pistol will be the last thing you
- 29:12Speaker 2: ever taste. And then the smell of rock bottom depravity.
- 29:18Speaker 2: The deadbeat had shit his pants. The nineteen eighties were
- 29:24Speaker 2: far from glamorous for Sandy West, former drummer for the Runaways.
- 29:29Speaker 2: She worked construction, She tended bar, she free based cocaine
- 29:33Speaker 2: and did crystal meth, and at her lowest she found
- 29:37Speaker 2: herself taxi, which is a term that I was unfamiliar with,
- 29:41Speaker 2: but according to Sandy, is the active collecting drug.
- 29:44Speaker 1: Debts for dealers.
- 29:46Speaker 2: It was this erratic and dangerous lifestyle which led to
- 29:49Speaker 2: Sandy being arrested multiple times and eventually doing jail time. Surprisingly,
- 29:55Speaker 2: perhaps most of all, the Sandy was that jail was
- 29:57Speaker 2: the first place where she had felt stability in a
- 30:00Speaker 2: decade or so since the band had split up, jail
- 30:04Speaker 2: to Sandy was like Jackie's thunderbird bass or Carrie Crome's
- 30:07Speaker 2: alter ego. It kept her cool and calm and out
- 30:11Speaker 2: of trouble, at least for a short while, because, just
- 30:14Speaker 2: like the Runaways, Sandy's time on the inside was a finite,
- 30:19Speaker 2: a flash in the pan, and so when she got out,
- 30:22Speaker 2: she went right back into the fire of an untethered life.
- 30:25Speaker 2: She died of cancer in two thousand and six, at
- 30:28Speaker 2: just the age of forty seven. For nearly thirty years,
- 30:32Speaker 2: all Sandy wanted to do was get the band back together.
- 30:36Speaker 2: Back in nineteen seventy seven, following a mental breakdown in Japan,
- 30:39Speaker 2: Jackie Fox had been replaced on bass by Vicki Blue.
- 30:43Speaker 2: Sharie quits soon after, leaving Joan to shoulder the weight
- 30:46Speaker 2: and lead the Runaways as a quartet. They made two
- 30:49Speaker 2: more albums, but even after they fired Kim Fowley, they
- 30:52Speaker 2: still weren't able to come together as a cohesive unit.
- 30:56Speaker 2: On New Year's Eve in nineteen seventy eight, the Runaways
- 30:59Speaker 2: played their last It wasn't until twenty fifteen, the year
- 31:03Speaker 2: of Kim Fowley's death, that Jackie Fox went public with
- 31:06Speaker 2: their allegations that Foley had raped her, and it was
- 31:09Speaker 2: another eight years in twenty twenty three when Carrie Chrome
- 31:12Speaker 2: sued Foley's estate for multiple sexual assaults she says she
- 31:16Speaker 2: suffered at the Svengali's hands. Revelations in lawsuits such as
- 31:21Speaker 2: these continued to expose the system that enabled men like
- 31:24Speaker 2: Folly to do what they did, exploit, corrupt, manipulate, and control.
- 31:33Speaker 2: But The Runaways were never about Kim Foley. The Runaways
- 31:37Speaker 2: were about escape, reinvention, about becoming who you are for real.
- 31:43Speaker 2: What Carrie understood when she changed her name, what Shari
- 31:46Speaker 2: understood when she stepped into that corset, and what Joan
- 31:49Speaker 2: understood every time she put on that red leather jumpsuit
- 31:53Speaker 2: was a rock and roll truth. You get to create
- 31:56Speaker 2: your own myth. You get to turn yourself into the
- 31:59Speaker 2: thing the world told you you.
- 32:00Speaker 1: Could never be. David Bowie became.
- 32:03Speaker 2: Ziggy Stardust, Carrie Krous became Carrie Chrome, and every girl
- 32:08Speaker 2: who heard The Runaways played Cherry Bomb on a shitty
- 32:11Speaker 2: AM radio or later saw Jone Jets saying bad reputation
- 32:14Speaker 2: and heavy rotation on MTV wasn't just inspired to form
- 32:18Speaker 2: a band. They were inspired to become whoever the hell
- 32:21Speaker 2: they wanted to be, to escape the person polite society
- 32:24Speaker 2: told them they had to be, and instead become the
- 32:28Speaker 2: person they needed to be. The Runaways didn't just kick
- 32:33Speaker 2: open a door, they obliterated the idea that the door
- 32:36Speaker 2: ever existed. That is rock and roll, and rock and
- 32:40Speaker 2: roll is no disgrace. I'm Jake Brennan, and this is Disgraceland.
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- 33:21Speaker 2: which female artists do you want to hear covered in
- 33:23Speaker 2: the coming episodes of this podcast. We've obviously covered a bunch,
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