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Bailey Spinn on Going From Viral POV TikToks to Rock Star | Delulu with Ryan Lu #208 · Delulu with Ryan Lu

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I am Hannah Montana and this is my other personality.
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It's like Baileena, that's not me.
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I love that. OK, well Baileena's slaying it.
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You guys, we need to beat these Bailey spin inauthentic
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allegations. Like I feel like you have been
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nothing but real really Lulu as fuck this entire time.
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So I'm like. How many sad songs will it take
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before people believe? Me.
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We're about to find out. I got more coming, don't worry.
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Hello Spin Lulu's Today we are joined by OGPOV Queen herself
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and a bonafide rock star, obviously Miss Bailey Spin.
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She is known for her incredibly viral POV content and now making
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a name for herself as an artist. She has lived rent free on your
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For You page for years and now she is here with us in the
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Dululu studios. Bailey, thank you so much for
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being here. Yes, thank you for having me.
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Pretty much just hung out for like a couple hours right before
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this. We did.
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We've done everything today already.
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Pretty much I was like kind of getting a little nervy.
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I'm like, feel like I'm getting to everything with you.
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And I was like, we should say for the show, but then I was
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like, I want to stop talking. Either Don't.
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Worry there's more lore. We have so much to get into and
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I want to start with the Bailey lore.
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So yes, you're in LA now, but where are you originally from?
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I'm from Virginia and then the way I got to LA is I did go to
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college for a year at San Diego State and then I was a COVID
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year. I didn't have that much fun and
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I blew up on TikTok the summer after my freshman year and I
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just put all my things in a car and drove to LA and got an
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apartment and then never went back to school.
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You just said this is it, I'm doing it.
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Yeah, I basically up and left. I didn't even really think about
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it, but it was a good choice so. Honestly I did something similar
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to that too because for me I quit my job to make tik toks
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like 5 years ago. This was during covic as well
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literally and I didn't I guess reasonably.
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I always when I give people advice I'm always like I hate
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the idea of a plan BI don't love that idea but I always tell
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people like make sure you're good and covered first before
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you like just go for it even though I just went for it.
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That's what I did like I I had a following the first year in
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freshman year, but I just didn't know if it was enough to live
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off of and I didn't want to risk it didn't seem like that much of
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a full time job to me because I was just like a smaller account
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not making too much. And then when I realized like,
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oh, I I think I now can live off this like I needed that security
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if I'm good a. 100% I think that's so smart.
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I think more people should do that too and be really mindful
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about that. But at what point in making
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content where you find finally like, OK, I'm going to do this,
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this is full time. Like this is his job now.
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Yeah, it was my sophomore year and I remember specifically I
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was in like a quad. I had a roommate, teeny tiny
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room. Our beds are like 1 foot apart.
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I would wake up whenever she was gone, even if it was like for 30
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minutes. I had my makeup on and I would
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like set up my phone on my desk and film a video rapidly.
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I remember I would wake up in the morning at like 8 or
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whatever before classes and I'd have to go into our bathroom to
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record like the voice overs because I couldn't do it while
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she was sleeping in there in the living room.
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They can all hear me. So I was like quietly in the
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bathroom. Then I was just like this isn't
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working and trying to balance running a classes.
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And. Trying to party and being
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mindful of the roommates and posting all the time.
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Like I was posting every single day.
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So I was like, girl, we something has got to stop here
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and I picked school. As you should.
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And obviously it worked out. Yes, luckily for me, could have
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been worse. Thankfully right?
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Oh my God literally because same.
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I quit my job straight up just to make tick tocks and I'm so
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happy I did because like, I don't know, I everything was so
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different too. And it was the pandemic, right?
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You need the time to like focus on it.
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It does help, it's just. It's still a job.
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It's an interesting job, but still a job.
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It's. Like a 24/7 job too you can't
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stop thinking about. It all the time.
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It's never ending. So did you know you always
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wanted to like, be a content creator?
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Like when you're growing up, what did you envision yourself
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doing? I had a few different dreams.
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I definitely was a big fan of YouTube.
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Me too. Back when I was like 12 and 13.
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I was all all over the Internet and I wanted to be a YouTube so
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bad and made like terrible cold calls and that kind of stuff.
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We got to find those videos. I have them, I watch them
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sometimes and I'm like, these are.
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They're not public, are they? No, they're not.
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They're on a different channel too, so they're not even on my
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main one now. But yeah, I wanted to be a
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YouTube. Me too, so bad.
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I really want to be a YouTube. I wanted to be a Disney Channel
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star. I wanted to be a YouTube.
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And I also made like. I made like like fall fits for
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back to school did just the worst outfits.
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I. Was doing balls, yes I was
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posting videos and honestly they were doing kind of good too.
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For the time I didn't even notice because I just I
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abandoned it and those videos I made, it was like a lot of
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fashion based videos, very random of me.
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And then we got like 100 views or something like notice.
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I didn't even notice until like crazy until deleting those
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videos and I was like wait, these did good.
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But I gave up on that dream really quickly.
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What? Happened.
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Why did I give up on that or why did I do well?
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I have no idea if people wanted to know what to wear back to
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school in the fall, so I guess it did that.
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But I yeah, YouTube. I always wanted to be a YouTube
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too, because then that was like the 19 growing up.
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I was watching the Youtubers and then I wanted to be a viner.
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Were you on Vine? No, I think I was like a little
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too young. Like I I knew about it and I
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know all the references but I didn't have it for some reason
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like I don't remember having. I think it was like my
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generation and I think your generation was moving towards we
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were musically. Yeah, we I was more so musically
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like I think by the time I was like old enough to find out
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about Vine, it it died like it was done.
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Yeah, but I know the me. I recorded them all the time.
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It's a part of the culture, so absolutely that makes sense.
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Right, I'm on the cusp. So you know you wanted to be an
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influencer, You want to be a content creator.
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Did you also know you wanted to be an artist?
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I don't know about artists. I was like a theater kid.
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Which makes perfect sense. So it's kind of in your blood,
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but you weren't necessarily thinking about it like that.
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Yeah, I wasn't really focused on like being an artist.
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I kind of wanted to be in musical theatre.
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I loved it. I saw Broadway shows all the
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time in New York with my dad, and I would sing karaoke in the
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basement like every day. But I was just so anxious and I
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couldn't sing in front of anyone.
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Really. Were you like, shy about it?
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Yeah, I was. I'm still a little shy about it
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but like Oh my God, it isn't so bad it.
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Doesn't show at all I feel. Like you're mean.
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No, I it's like a lot of muscle memory and training, even making
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videos for the first time, like getting used to being in front
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of the camera and talking to a camera and like, you know,
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making the content in general. It's like the practice because I
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used to be so fucking shy and like I couldn't even imagine
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like 10 years ago doing this at all.
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Yeah. The cameras and like knowing
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that I'm being perceived and it's being recorded and like the
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voice thing. It's normal now, but we are the.
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Same. I mean, I wouldn't have it any
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other way. I like, love this life.
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I love everything about like what this career is, right?
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It's just so fun and it's like it's crazy and we've been so
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busy too. It's.
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Creative and crazy and fun you have a lot of self-discipline
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and like a super creative like genre you.
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Have to because like I was talking to my friends about it
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and I was like, no one's going to want it more than you yeah,
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and you're going to have to want it and if you you're.
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Going to be dedicated. You have to because if you're
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not, then what? Like even, you know, if you have
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a team and your team cares and you're working with people and
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stuff, it's just like, at the end of the day, it's still you
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and it's your output and it's what you want.
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So it's it's a lie. I don't think people even
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understand because I feel like people don't respect like
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content creators in general or whatever.
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It's already really hard. And I wanted to talk to you
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about that too. So being a content creator and
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then moving into music, do you feel like it was hard to be
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taken seriously at first? Because like, you know, everyone
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like rolls their eyes. They're like, oh, Addison Rae
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made Tik Toks and now she's doing music and people don't
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take it seriously. Did you find that?
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Yeah, definitely. And then before I even released
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my own songs, people were starting to be mean to be about
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it because I released covers on YouTube just to like get better
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at singing and get comfortable singing in front of the camera.
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And people are really nice on YouTube, but they were really
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mean on TikTok. They were so mean to me.
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But I did end up getting better. So I'm like, they bullied me
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into it a little bit. But when they're mean, it makes
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you question. You're like, should I keep going
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forward? They're still.
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Mean to me perceived in such a massive way too, because you
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have such a giant following and people have opinions and people
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are going to say things like we're just talking about a
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recent video that you did and that people don't even
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understand. They're always going to say
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something like how do you even deal with that?
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Because like, to be honest, for me, I feel so thankful.
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I feel like I very rarely, maybe like once or twice a year, I'll
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get like a negative comment or hate comment.
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But generally to be fair though, I don't read my comments at all
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at all so I feel like I just avoid it in general.
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But it would I feel like it would crush me if I was getting
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like a bunch of negative feedback.
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People were perceiving me and like feeling a type of way about
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me. Yeah, I don't know.
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I'm kind of a weird like hard head about it because I think
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about it in the aspect that I personally have never left a
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hate comment on any video of my life, especially not on just
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never. And I like people that are doing
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that. Probably a little bit insecure.
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I know what's compelling you and why.
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Like why do you even care that much like I?
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Just think about the guy. I would love to hate comment
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either. I do think I am a huge hater,
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but I definitely don't think I love to comment on anything.
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Like, never publicly, yeah. Never publicly.
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I would never never do that. Never that.
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Definitely other embarrassing things I'll comment publicly
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like like if I have a tarot reading I'll be like, oh I
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really? Positive ones, I'm like, I just
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don't. People forget about like digital
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footprint too. I'm like, do you not want a job
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or anything like when you're older?
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I mean, yeah, just 'cause you know, your user 179 or whatever,
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people can find that. And they're gonna find it.
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The internet's forever. That's the scariest thing too,
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right? People need to be more mindful
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about that. They'd be, they'd be seeing the
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craziest shit. They'd be seeing the craziest
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shit under the most irrelevant shit, too.
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Like why? Why is this?
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Why? Why is this on my video?
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Like this doesn't even matter. This is irrelevant.
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Absolutely and like y'all just talking shit.
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Just talk shit at this point. When I started making content, I
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made a rule to be really intentional about not reading
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the comments just because I felt like I got so in my head about
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it. But I feel like because your
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videos obviously are so massively viral, people are
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always commenting. Like, how do you manage that?
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I, I can't even fathom that myself, you know what I mean?
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Right, you just have to ignore them and it's like cheesy
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advice, but that is genuinely the only way.
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I'm also a deleter of comments. I am a tyrant on my own page.
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I will be deleting your comment. The block button is there for a
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reason. I'm deleting it and I'm, I'm
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blocking you because this is my video, my face, my name, I don't
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care. Period.
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You know your page, It's. Your page.
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Oh my God, control it. You know what?
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I used to block people too, but then they stopped because then
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people would post on their like stories and be like, oh, I
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affected Ryan so much. Ryan blocked me.
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And I'm like, it's not that deep, girl.
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Like I have no idea who you are. I don't.
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I don't. Check.
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They probably deserve it. I'm like, if you say something
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genuinely mean, I'm gonna block you.
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Yeah. Fuck you bro.
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If it's gently mean, I'll just probably delete it.
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I'm like, OK, maybe you shouldn't do that again.
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But how often are you monitoring?
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I don't not that much. Sometimes it's like late at
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night, I'm a little bit bored or can't sleep.
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I'm like scrolling. I'm like.
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What are we seeing? It's going to keep you up.
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There's so many platforms too. Honestly on Instagram it's
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really bad. Instagram.
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Instagram is the worst place for hate.
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Comes there feral I feel like. Instagram people on Instagram,
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that's the craziest part because Instagram people, I feel like
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TikTok, you see a lot of burner accounts, a lot of random
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accounts, a lot of number accounts, a lot of user blah
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blah. Instagram is like real house
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people being like hey, you suck and I hate you and I'm like, Oh
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yeah, full government name here in everything, right?
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Literally like profile picture, I don't care.
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They don't care. They wanted to be seen like I'm
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a hater too, but I don't think I would leave a hate comment.
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We talked about that. Yeah, I would not leave it.
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I've never left a hate comment on somebody's page, never from a
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burner, never from a main. It's just something like people
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that do it. It's probably out of insecurity
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or like sheer boredom, but just. Lie.
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It's also just like someone necessary.
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It is unnecessary. Like everything took.
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The time about your day to do that.
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And you're thinking about me and I affected you like that.
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So it's like, OK, it is what it is.
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But you know what I always say as a content creator, they can
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and they should leave whatever comments they want because
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engagement. So thanks.
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Bills paid either way. Yeah, the hate.
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The hate does work and if you run with it like rage baiting
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people really works and I do it a lot.
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You're brave, you're brave. I will rage bait people.
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I love that. Gently.
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Well, you're really intentional about it, like the POV that you
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just did where you're talking about like the aesthetics not
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matching the music tastes, and you have the mic, a romance
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poster right behind you. Like I thought rage immediately
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because I was like, you're off to the side and it's right
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there. You know what I mean?
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And all the comments were like the poster though.
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Yeah, just a skit. So you're making content.
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At what point do you decide that you want to start doing music as
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well? Because you said you wanted to
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be an influencer, you knew you wanted to be a content creator
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and you weren't necessarily sure if you wanted to be an artist,
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but then you started moving towards that.
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I think I gained a little bit of confidence from posting online.
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And so I texted my manager at the time one day and I was like,
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I think I can sing. And so we put me in vocal
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lessons and we put me in everything just to like build
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confidence just so I was able to even put myself out there and
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know that I could sing to some ability.
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But then I started making covers and then original music.
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I very much took it like one step at a time and really tried
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to ease my audience into it instead of just like throwing a
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song at them immediately of. My own accord, 60 or 180 of just
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being like from the content to like, OK, here's my music.
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Now I wanted them to know I was serious too.
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I was like, I'm not, you know, throwing out a song for money or
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like a cash grab or anything. I was like, I love music and I
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want to sing and I want you guys to know that I like it, but you
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have to start somewhere. It just, I was starting at such
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a large point on social media that so many people were already
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watching. You know, if I had like 50K it
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would have been less detrimental if I was like, I'm going to sing
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now the. Transition.
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People were very mean. Of course.
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And you got such a large audience initially anyways.
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And you know what? I want to talk about that.
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I feel like a lot of artists these days dream of like having
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a giant following before they even release music.
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But to be honest, it could also be such a crutch because it's
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like they know you for one thing, they follow you for one
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thing, and now you're doing something different.
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They put you in a box and then they don't expect something
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different from you, and then you do something different and
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they're like, oh, I don't like this.
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I actually missed this or I wasn't expecting this from you,
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da da, da. So then I feel like it makes it
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slightly harder because now you have to compete with yourself.
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So it's like, I want to show you that I'm more than just one
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thing. It's so challenging to pivot,
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you know? It is.
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Yeah. They definitely have put me in a
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box. And people tell me they miss the
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old me. And it's kind of a funny thing
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to read because I'm like, there really is no old me.
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I'm like, you're thinking of a past version of myself.
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And I'm obviously, you know, like, not like that in this
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present moment. And we in loving memory of her.
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Yeah, literally in loving memory her.
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I was like, well, I can't undye my hair, so we're here now.
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Here we are, This is it. I feel like growing with an
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audience is so like challenging too because like people will
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pigeonhole you And I feel like that's something I'm dealing
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with right now too because I'm working on a bunch of different
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projects as well. And I'm like, fuck, I don't know
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how people are going to react to these things and like how things
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are going to shift. Also, side note, I need to tell
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you, I loved your content so much during the Pandemi Lovato.
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It was crack to me. Oh my God, Oh my God.
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I would like my doom scrolling would be just your page and I
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would just be. I was obsessed.
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I feel like you. That's how the blow up happened.
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You just like, you just like hit all the points, like the
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emotional aspects of things and the storytelling.
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And I was rooting for you and I was mad.
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Girl, it really went there. But you know what's interesting
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today in 2025, like I only see you as like an artist.
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Like, how crazy is that? Because you started so much in
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the content creation. So I think that's great.
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Very intentional, like rebranding and moving towards it
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because you're exactly where you need to be now.
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Yeah. Definitely.
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And the music's so good and we're so excited about it.
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Thank you. I'm excited about it too.
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Well, I want to talk about your music as well, of course.
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So you just released your debut album, Loser.
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How's the process of making Loser?
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I want to talk about the title track as well because I feel
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like it also bleeds a a little bit into your new song Fear of
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Going Out too, because then it's just very self deprecating, like
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the opposite of affirmations and where is that coming from?
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That's just kind of me. I like to write like that just
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to get it off of my chest. Yeah, I kind of went into the
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studio when I was writing loser and specifically the title
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track, and I was telling them like, I feel like a loser.
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And I was kind of living like the same day on repeat.
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Do you really feel like a loser everywhere sometimes?
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Yeah, I think. That's human and that's yeah.
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Sometimes people too see me as like the kind of think you're
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popular if you have all these followers and like in a
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logistical sense I am. But you know, you can still have
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like 1 friend and like stay inside.
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And kind of like, I grew up eating lunch in the bathrooms
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alone and like playing Minecraft.
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And now I'm like, now I'm just kind of like this.
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And I keep all those qualities with me.
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I mean, it's good you're staying authentic and true to yourself
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and look how like popular you are through it too.
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Like literally, people adore you and they adore what you do and
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your your music, what you make and you're still you.
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You know what I mean? The.
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Bravery of being cringy. I just did not care at all and
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it took me really far and I tell that everybody just don't care.
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Yeah, do hold themselves back when they're like, nervous about
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to overthink it. You just got to do it, girl.
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Especially if you want to be in entertainment.
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You just got to do it. You just got to let go and do
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it. That's the crazy thing.
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OK, well the next album needs to be called Winner.
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Winner. Yes, I knew that.
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OK, first. Place I feel like even with like
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of course fear of going out, you like in the chorus, you're still
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very like talking about yourself in like such a like opposite of
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an affirmation way. Do you feel like you would ever
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like start? I feel like because when I
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write, when I'm working on things, I always make sure I
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speak things that are feel like positive or like even if I'm
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faking it, I just feel like I need it, you know?
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Like that's where my mind goes, you know?
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But I also think it's really powerful to own and being self
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aware, right? You know, like in your music.
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Self aware, it's kind of like taking my power back and that's
17:15
why I keep writing so many sad songs because I do feel this
17:19
way. And then putting it on such like
17:20
a high energy, fun track makes me feel less bad about it.
17:25
It was like, you know, I want to stay inside.
17:26
I don't like talking to people, I overthink a lot.
17:29
But this song is so fun and it makes me want to dance and I can
17:32
dance around to it. Yeah, it's like bombastic.
17:34
And it's like, you know, has so much personality in it.
17:37
It's very fun. And it doesn't like feel sad in
17:40
nature. I don't like them to necessarily
17:42
all feel really sad. Like I like to have fun
17:44
sometimes. I feel like the album goes in so
17:46
many different directions. Obviously rock and you love so
17:49
many different facets of rock and it reflects on this project.
17:52
Was that intentional? Yeah, definitely Loser.
17:55
The album was is a fever dream, like going all the way through
17:59
it. I have like lighter pop rock
18:00
songs. There's some breakdowns and
18:02
heavier stuff in there. There's like a fully
18:04
instrumental Evanescence like orchestrated track.
18:08
I was really all over the place because I do love every single
18:11
one of these avenues of rock. And it was kind of hard to land
18:14
on like, which one? And I was like, let's give
18:16
people a little taste of everything.
18:19
And that's your taste too. I think that's very much you
18:21
too. Pop rock theme.
18:22
Yeah, I think the directions that you took with this album,
18:25
like it felt cohesive just in the way where it's like this is
18:28
very Bailey's spin, you know what I mean?
18:30
Like it's about so true and authentic to you.
18:32
And I feel like you had so many different directions.
18:34
And lyrically, I feel like you're so self reflective, you
18:37
know what I mean? And I think that's, I don't want
18:39
to say it's it is rare. I think it's rare.
18:40
I think it's rare to be seeing yourself as not the hero.
18:44
I feel like a lot of music follows the hero's journey, and
18:46
I love the hero's journey and yours is kind of like I'm.
18:48
Like the underdog. I'm not the hero's journey.
18:51
I'm like, I don't know, whenever I mean the like Perks of a
18:54
Wallflower, I'm like, that's me. I'm a family on the wall.
18:58
Yeah, but you're not trying to be anything else, right?
18:59
Like you're literally just like being yourself.
19:01
And I love that. So I wanted to talk about front
19:03
row psycho. It's very like, I want to say
19:06
sarcastic and like tongue in cheek, but talking about like,
19:10
you know, a hater. We just talked about a bunch of
19:11
haters those people leave in those Commons.
19:13
And then one day they're going to be at your show screaming for
19:16
you, right? Like that's such an interesting
19:18
concept because I feel like a lot of people don't even
19:19
recognize that too. And it's such a real thing.
19:21
Like, I don't know about you, but for me in high school, like
19:24
I had so many people who just did not fuck with me, whatever.
19:26
And then now all of a sudden it's like, look at my best
19:28
friend from high school doing this.
19:29
And I'm like. Girl, what?
19:30
We were not friends. We were not friends.
19:33
We were not. And we're not friends now.
19:35
You know what? I mean, we never were.
19:36
Yes, they're that front row psycho.
19:38
So did you did that come from like a real place you wrote it
19:41
from the perspective of like the haters or was it just like a
19:43
concept that you had? Because I need to talk about the
19:45
the concept of super glue and we'll get into that too, but
19:47
we're front row psycho. Front Row Psycho was honestly
19:50
right after I had dyed my hair online and kind of made a shift
19:54
into a more alternative style and people were being really
19:57
mean to me and just had so much to say and people were taking
20:01
out the fact that they were mad about me dyeing my hair.
20:03
Like on my music too. Even if this my songs have never
20:07
been bad in my own opinion. I love them, but I was like, you
20:10
guys are kind of just dog piling on me just because it's popular.
20:14
And they're looking for to be angry, too.
20:16
Yeah, I was like, you know, this is a good song.
20:18
And I, it hurts when I put a lot of effort in and then people are
20:21
like, this sucks, this song's terrible.
20:23
I'm like, Oh no. You feel like you still have to
20:25
fight to be taken seriously as an artist too.
20:27
Yeah, definitely. People don't take it serious.
20:29
They call me TikTok artist all the time.
20:31
And I really will comment back to people and be like, what does
20:33
that even mean? What does that mean?
20:35
Because I always go into sessions I never have written
20:37
with the intention of putting it on TikTok.
20:40
And the reason my song Happy Ending blew up on TikTok was
20:43
because of me and just from posting it and like being honest
20:46
about what it was about and how I felt and that's why people
20:50
liked and connected with it. I'm like, that doesn't make it a
20:52
TikTok song. It's just a good song.
20:55
I'm like not an insult. I'm like.
20:57
I feel like they want to like, discredit you.
21:00
And I feel like a lot of like people who begin on TikTok, who
21:02
begin as content creators, they're just not taken seriously
21:05
in general. Like even when they become an
21:06
actor and like they're like, oh, well, they made TikTok, so
21:08
that's how they got into the audition.
21:10
But it's just like, you guys realistically, like content
21:13
creation is entertainment. This is still entertainment.
21:16
And I feel like this is the next generation of Hollywood.
21:18
Like you're going to see all of us in these next iterations in
21:22
mainstream media, in the music, in the shows, in the movies too.
21:25
It's just like, it's super unfair that perception.
21:28
I feel like you've like, I don't see struggle, but you battle it
21:31
so much, especially because it's like such a large following and
21:33
like really starting on one thing with you and then moving
21:35
to music. Definitely, They're just not
21:37
accepting of it. I see it too all the time.
21:39
It's it's like the hate tray and they do it to all of them.
21:42
And I don't know why it's specifically with influencers
21:45
because there's so many people who are like an actor primarily.
21:48
And then, you know, they'll start singing too.
21:50
And maybe they do some other things.
21:52
And usually people don't say that much about it.
21:54
But when an influencer does it, it's like, you're bad.
21:57
You should just keep making videos.
21:58
This is the worst thing I've ever heard.
22:00
I'm like, why? Why does it make it bad?
22:02
You know, people can have more than one talent and want to
22:05
explore more than one talent. I'm like, I don't know.
22:08
So same thing of, you know, influencer making a podcast,
22:10
same thing as influencer making a song.
22:12
Yeah. Or going to act and like.
22:14
You know, you do what you want. Like, you should let everyone
22:16
explore. I think people like, love this
22:18
idea that people should be one thing, which is crazy because
22:20
like. You can explore, you got a lot
22:21
of life to live girl, do what you want.
22:23
Do everything you should do everything.
22:25
Right. So many years, hopefully.
22:27
I think people need to be more open minded to it.
22:28
And that's what's crazy too, because people like are just so
22:31
like, no, but you do this and I know you for this, so you should
22:33
just keep doing this. And it's like.
22:35
So and I'm like, I cannot do something else right now.
22:38
I want to do something else too. Exactly.
22:39
And I'm going to do something else.
22:41
So I love that you're being brave about that, especially
22:42
with all the comments. Like fuck dude.
22:44
Yeah, it's hard to fight them, honestly.
22:46
A lot of people want the old content back and it's just, it's
22:49
still there. Yeah, some of it's there.
22:51
And I kind of do it in a different way now that makes me
22:54
more comfortable. But I was like, you know, this
22:56
is my job and I've been doing it for so long.
22:58
I'm like, I'm not going to make myself uncomfortable to please
23:01
other people. And, you know, I've taken some
23:03
hits from like, not doing the old content anymore, Like not as
23:07
many people are engaged, but I kind of knew that was going to
23:10
happen. But a lot of them are, you know,
23:12
keeping there for the music. And that's what I want.
23:15
I was like, you know, the content's kind of on the side
23:17
now. Yeah.
23:18
And honestly, you want the fans who are going to really resonate
23:20
with the music because I always say this like, I used to get so
23:22
discouraged when people would unfollow me.
23:23
And at that, at the same time, I kind of think about it when I'm
23:26
like, well, the people who are staying are the people that I
23:28
want to make this for, that I want to do this for.
23:31
And that's like wedding out the people who aren't necessarily
23:34
going to be the most supportive anyways, 100%.
23:36
And if they're going to be like that, then yeah, bye.
23:39
You can go literally. Be good, be good over here then.
23:42
So how was the reception on your first headlining tour, the Happy
23:46
Ending Tour? Congratulations.
23:47
Thank you. Yeah, they were great.
23:49
I honestly was like, shocked that people, it was like
23:53
translating into real life human beings, especially after being
23:56
such an introvert and being on my phone all the time.
23:59
I'm like 100%, you guys are real people.
24:01
And it's just like, amazed me that people all over the US
24:04
wanted to come and watch me. Yeah.
24:05
And it was so magical. I loved it.
24:07
It was definitely a fun first tour experience.
24:10
That's so crazy, especially because, like, you know,
24:12
starting during the pandemic, this is during the lockdown,
24:14
you're posting videos online. And now it's like they're right
24:16
in front of you. They're singing it back to you.
24:18
They came out to see you, right? That is correct.
24:20
Never thought I would go on tour starting this either.
24:23
Yeah and I was wanting to be a YouTube and somehow I did AUS
24:26
tour. I was like, we took a turn.
24:28
You're doing all of it right. Oh my gosh.
24:30
And that's honestly, and I like all the online hate.
24:32
It's like it's not going to translate into the, you know,
24:35
the shows, the audience. It's only the nice people.
24:37
People don't come to hate. And luckily I didn't have anyone
24:40
even like hateful at my concerts at all.
24:43
Because, you know, sometimes people go to concerts and still
24:46
complain. Oh my God.
24:47
I have a. Problem with it I'm like, nobody
24:49
had really said that to me. They were all like so excited It
24:51
was a lot of little kids, but they were the cutest things I've
24:54
ever seen Oh my God, I'm here for it I'm like, they're gonna
24:57
grow up with me and someone has to introduce them to rock music
24:59
It'll be me. I'm.
25:00
Here, there. Yeah, I'm like I'm making them a
25:03
fan early on. I love that.
25:05
Wait, do you consider yourself like a role model?
25:06
Do you want to be a role model? I think so.
25:09
I it's a little confusing for me.
25:11
I'm like, I have like a potty mouth.
25:12
But yeah, otherwise I'm a pretty, I think, good person for
25:15
kids to look up to. It I mean, you are, we've been
25:17
hanging out like this entire like morning and like you've
25:20
been so lovely. Oh, thank you.
25:22
Very lovely. Try to be, you know, I'm like,
25:24
you gotta preach the right things to your audience.
25:27
I'm like I always say, like dedication and like hard.
25:29
Work I love. That gets you far and being nice
25:31
gets you so much further than being me.
25:33
And so I'm like 100% nothing to be like, you know, friendly and
25:37
a. 100% no hate comments y'all. Right.
25:39
Never. Never hate comment, we're just
25:42
all positivity here. So with Loser in this album, the
25:45
entire process of making it, first I want to tell you love
25:47
the album cover. Thank you.
25:49
Stunning. I loved it.
25:50
It was so cute and pink. I love it.
25:52
Oh my God, I fucking love it. Favorite color?
25:55
How was that process of making that album?
25:57
It was really fun. Honestly.
25:59
The cover art kind of came about after the album had taken an
26:02
entire year and I had been sitting on these songs for so
26:06
long and it was kind of the first time I ventured out with
26:08
different producers and different songwriters.
26:11
And it was really fun for me. I was like taking a tour of all
26:14
these rock producers and made so many songs that I connected with
26:18
and like I have some of my favorites off the album and I
26:21
had never seen like that many of my songs together at once so.
26:24
It was like a collection. It was, it was so exciting for
26:27
me when it came out. I was like, oh, these are real
26:30
and people can listen to these right now.
26:32
Oh my God, that's super exciting.
26:34
And you're obviously working on new music.
26:35
You just put out fear of going out.
26:37
Yes, which is very in vain of loser with your, you know,
26:40
self-awareness. Right.
26:42
You're saying a self aware? Queen.
26:44
She is a self aware queen. I love that because I feel like
26:46
I'm very self aware too, honestly.
26:48
Oh my God, yeah, same. That's super interesting.
26:51
Now I'm like really clocking. But what's coming next?
26:54
I know you have new music coming out soon too.
26:56
Yes, I'm working on another album.
26:59
Honestly, it's not like an official announcement.
27:02
I'm like another album winner, but I definitely am working on
27:06
it. I don't have a date at all, but
27:08
I'm releasing another single called Critical on November
27:11
14th. So soon for everybody on the
27:14
next rollout. Should be fun.
27:16
Yes, Oh my God, wait, we're so excited and it's still going to
27:18
be in the same like, vein as the rock, 'cause I know you've been
27:21
the rock genre, but you've been exploring different facets of
27:24
rock, right? Are you holding down on like 1?
27:27
Kind of like part of it? Are you finding out what you
27:29
love? Yeah, I, I where are we going
27:31
in? I think I'm gonna shock people a
27:34
little bit. Because.
27:35
I am. I'm going a little bit heavier
27:37
than I did before. I think really we've kind of
27:39
outgrown the pop rock aspect of it.
27:42
Yeah, people are still gonna tell me it's pop.
27:44
It's definitely got some like pop fun melodies, but it is a
27:47
very heavy track 'cause. I feel like fear of going out is
27:50
like it's hard hitting. Pretty grungy, yeah.
27:53
I wouldn't consider that pop whatsoever.
27:54
I don't know if anyone else has but like I feel like fear of
27:56
going out. Usually it's.
27:57
Within my melodies, that's kind of where people, I call it pop
28:00
allegations because people say that to me all the time.
28:02
They're like, you make pop music.
28:03
I'm like, are you, are we listening to the?
28:05
Same songs like what are? What are you hearing 100%?
28:08
But this is like, undeniably rock music.
28:11
Like Headband. Owning it.
28:13
Yeah, I'm owning it. I love girls, you know, and rock
28:16
girls. Yeah, absolutely.
28:18
I mean, you're representing. Hell yeah, I must.
28:21
So what about for all the loser stands?
28:23
Like are they going to be excited for the new musics as
28:24
well? Like if it's going heavier, do
28:26
you think they're going to be like super, super shocked from
28:29
the transition? I think maybe a little bit, I'm
28:32
honestly, you know, I have a little bit of a small fan base
28:36
with the music and I've definitely made it pretty far
28:38
with the pop, rock and cutesy fun stuff.
28:41
But I'm hoping to expand even more and you know, keep those
28:44
people there and then give them the heavier stuff and hopefully
28:47
find even more audience that enjoys the same stuff I do
28:50
because I love heavy music. But I hope they receive it well.
28:54
It's not too crazy. It's not like screaming death
28:58
metal or anything, there's literally no screaming in it.
29:00
It's just really fun, very high quality, good rock.
29:03
So I think they'll like. It wait, we're all so excited
29:06
and by the way, everything you said that's true artistry,
29:08
wanting to grow up, your wanting to grow up your audience and
29:11
then also letting yourself explore and get deeper of it.
29:13
I love that you don't pigeonhole yourself that you're not forcing
29:15
yourself to do one thing. You explored the different
29:17
avenues of rock. Now you're figuring out like
29:19
kind of where you want to keep going.
29:21
That's exciting. Just as a fan of an artist, just
29:23
seeing them grow. I know your fans are going to
29:26
love that too. Yeah, definitely.
29:27
Just feeling disconnected from the pop.
29:29
I mean, I love Loser, don't get me wrong, but just feeling
29:32
disconnected after when I was trying to make new songs and
29:34
like, this isn't right anymore. It's just not.
29:37
I'm older now, I'm ready. I listen to a lot of heavier
29:40
music now and I want to make it too.
29:42
That's where you are right now too.
29:44
Honestly I don't even really consider loser really that pop
29:46
to be honest. Really.
29:47
I know I've kind of people just say that's me all the.
29:50
Time so I'm self. Aware that there are some pop
29:54
aspects like super glue is pretty light.
29:56
I mean, it's not like a heavy rock track or anything.
29:58
Same with loser like, but there are heavier ones like front row
30:01
psycho psycho has a breakdown in it and like I think another one
30:06
what if I is pretty heavy too? Like if there's a breakdown in
30:08
that one too. I'm like, I don't know that me
30:11
being like it's heavy. It has a breakdown if.
30:14
That makes it heavy, then it makes it heavy.
30:16
But I also think it's like the melodies, like they're catching
30:18
anything. That's why the pop allegations
30:19
are coming up. You know what I mean?
30:21
Because when my Co writer and I were working on this episode we
30:23
were listening to the album and after every song he would
30:27
literally be singing the choruses.
30:29
I love this. Yes, literally.
30:31
It's super catchy and I think that's what makes a really good
30:33
song has to stick. You know, definitely.
30:35
Also, the death of just everything and I.
30:37
My personal favorite is in Loving Memory.
30:39
Oh. Thank you, I love loving memory.
30:41
It's just so interesting because like that concept of like,
30:43
burying your past self and acknowledging that we change and
30:46
like we shouldn't even have to be the same or stagnant or
30:49
static. Can you talk about that song in
30:50
the process of writing it? Yeah, definitely.
30:52
It was odd because it actually came about before I decided to
30:56
like, dye my hair because it really seemed like I had this
30:58
planned out and then I had the song and I was like, I'm going
31:01
to dye my hair and do this. I just kind of wrote it and I
31:04
went into the studio with like the in loving memory idea and
31:07
then we wrote that. I just wrote down a bunch of
31:09
keywords like grave and crime and stuff like that.
31:12
And we made the song. And then I started working with
31:15
my PR team a couple weeks later and they were like, we think you
31:17
should dye your hair and be really dramatic.
31:20
And I was like, yes, I will do that.
31:22
I am really dramatic and I think this is the best idea ever.
31:25
I. Love that.
31:25
And it kind of coincided with the song, like you kind of
31:27
prophesized it because? I I'm did it on an accident
31:30
manifested that. I mean, it was like a
31:31
metaphorical, like death, of course.
31:33
But now it's like, no, the Old Bailey, this image of what
31:37
Bailey was, it's completely different now.
31:39
Yeah, I was like, I kind of did that to myself without even
31:42
realizing because I wrote it before.
31:44
Like all these changes happened. I was like, I think I spoke this
31:47
into existence a little. Bit you literally manifested it.
31:49
It was. Very different.
31:50
Absolutely shaking black black hair staying.
31:54
Yeah, it's staying. Staying.
31:56
I thought about colors, but the black is just easier.
31:58
My hair is a lot healthier. Thank you.
32:01
I like it too. I don't understand the people
32:03
who are like, you look better blonde.
32:04
I'm like, no I didn't. People are going to have so many
32:06
opinions and it's non-stop. And at that point it's just
32:09
like, whatever I'm going to do, whatever the fuck I want to do.
32:11
Yeah, definitely. I'm like, it's my hair.
32:12
What are you going to do, cut it off?
32:14
I don't really keep it. Absolutely.
32:16
I don't even know. I hate when people comment
32:17
things like that because it's like what exactly?
32:20
Oh my God thank you user 475. I'm going to go bleach my hair
32:23
right now because of you. Literally, that's exactly what
32:26
they think we're going to do. Or like the people who come at
32:28
me for being alternative, I'm like, what do you want me to do?
32:31
Like throw away all of my black clothes and start wearing colour
32:34
again? I can't.
32:35
I already like, this is me. No, literally I'm going to go
32:38
get all my tattooed laser, wear a blonde wig and throw all of my
32:42
black items of clothing away. Yeah.
32:43
The music's going to change. Everything's going.
32:44
This is me. And they should just accept
32:47
that. That's crazy.
32:48
I feel like with the feedback that you get, like it's so much,
32:51
like you are so much better than me one 'cause I would be
32:54
crashing out on the daily if people had that many opinions
32:57
and comments towards me. So how are you seeing like so
32:59
normal and grounded 'cause you don't even feel like I'm looking
33:01
at you and you're like whatever, fuck it.
33:03
I am, well, that's exactly just kind of how I as am as a person.
33:06
Like I'm not sure I'm very laid back.
33:08
I'm very. You are dude.
33:09
Whatever, you're really bad. You don't really bother me.
33:12
I mean, I just think about it as like, it's probably somebody
33:15
like in a dark room or like a basement commenting something
33:19
mean, right? And most of the time they're
33:21
wrong. I'm like a lot of time when
33:22
people say it about my music, I get sometimes defensive about
33:26
the music stuff. I mean, it's personal as.
33:28
Hell it is. And I'm like people will say
33:30
like AI wrote this or something and I'm like, this is how I
33:34
feel. Or people will kind of accuse my
33:36
music of being like inauthentic in a way and that.
33:38
Makes no sense 'cause I think if they're actually listening it's
33:41
such a through thread. Like it's very much.
33:43
It seems very personal. It's like you'd have to be
33:46
really honestly psychotic if I was lying for this long about
33:49
like being alternative and feeling this way.
33:52
I was like, I came out with romance is dead happy ending,
33:55
saying like love isn't real, loser, I'm a loser, fear of
33:59
going out, introverted. I don't like going outside.
34:01
I'm like, how many times am I going to have to release a song
34:04
like being sad and runner up too.
34:06
It's saying I don't feel like enough.
34:08
My friends don't like me and. It's all cohesive.
34:11
Yeah, literally. It's all there.
34:12
It's like this. What do you mean?
34:14
Like if you're they're just not listening.
34:16
Yeah, they hear 15 seconds and that's all they form their
34:19
opinion off of. They like decided who you are
34:21
for you and that's like insane. Tell them exactly who you are
34:24
too in your music. So I'm like, OK, that's crazy
34:27
pretty. Open about it and then they're
34:28
saying it's inauthentic. I'm like what?
34:31
But you can't convince. People that you're authentic, if
34:34
they don't believe you, they don't believe you.
34:35
But I'm going to keep being this way.
34:38
You know, it's literally just you.
34:39
That's the thing. Like I guess if they were to pay
34:41
attention longer and keep listening, then it's like, wait,
34:43
what are you talking? Like I even said it earlier, I'm
34:45
like your music, you have a lot of self-awareness.
34:48
It's like very self deprecating. It's like it's all in the same
34:50
vein. It's like, wait, what do you
34:52
mean? Who else would you be?
34:53
Like this is how you're feeling? Yeah, I'm like.
34:55
Also know your upbringing too like your history and
34:57
everything. Like with money being
34:59
consecrator Ding of all the comments and everything, I'm
35:01
like, yeah, it's all there. Yeah, definitely.
35:03
I was like, I'm pretty open about it.
35:05
I'm like inauthenticity is not here, it's just me.
35:09
Artists don't survive when they're like, faking it.
35:11
I I really feel like. They just can't.
35:13
I can't fake write songs either. I'm like all my songs are about
35:15
how I'm feeling. I'm like, I never go in and like
35:18
lie about, you know, like make up a story.
35:20
Really. I'm not that kind of writer.
35:22
I really only write for myself to.
35:24
I'm the exact same way. Literally I'm the exact same
35:27
way. Like I have to write about
35:28
exactly how I'm feeling and I've been writing for other people
35:30
and I also have to write about how exactly they're feeling.
35:32
And also I work with this producer and he was telling me,
35:36
he was telling me a bunch of songs and like, did that really
35:38
happen in his music and lyrics? And he's like, Oh no, I just
35:40
made that up. I was like, I feel like I could
35:42
never just like fake something in the same.
35:45
You only get so many words you can say in a song.
35:47
I feel like every word should be impactful and it should be real
35:49
and it should be like, you know, obviously there are different
35:51
artists and different things, but that's what I love about
35:53
your music too. I feel like it's vulnerable, but
35:55
it's also like a superpower that you're owning all of it.
35:58
You know for sure. I want to talk about kiss of
36:01
Death. Oh, love.
36:02
So with kiss of death, you're literally acknowledging that
36:04
you're like hurting your loved ones.
36:06
It's very. It's another self deprecating
36:08
one, but it's very self reflective.
36:11
See, this is a sad song. That's why people need to pay
36:13
attention. I'm like, this is Bailey spin
36:15
and this is what we're saying. Sad, but it's very self
36:17
reflective. And I feel I feel like that's so
36:19
relatable. Like, you know, if even if it's
36:22
an even if it's unintentional, like you're not trying to hurt
36:24
someone, you're not trying to like be a type of way or
36:26
whatever. But if it happens, it happens.
36:28
Like, I feel like, you know, that wildfire syndrome where
36:31
it's. Like yeah, definitely it's a
36:32
little self-destructive. I've definitely that one was
36:34
inspired off of like the moments I've had, right.
36:38
You know, I've lost some friends over the years and it was like,
36:40
I definitely, you know, we've all handled things and not the
36:43
best way or like, right, it didn't end exactly how you know
36:47
you would. Have liked it, never does.
36:48
Yeah, so I was kind of reflecting on that and it was
36:52
like, you know, the kiss of death is kind of insinuating,
36:54
like I love you and I'm also gonna ruin this somehow.
36:58
Poetic. I will find a way.
37:00
Relatable. Yeah, absolutely.
37:01
Me too. We've all self sabotage once in
37:04
a while. I feel like literally exactly
37:06
that I've been cold, that I'm self-destructive and a self
37:09
sabotage. So there you.
37:10
Go. I'm with you, girl.
37:11
There you go. Shout out Kiss of Death.
37:13
So I feel that. So Super Glue is a lighter song
37:15
on the album. I've heard you talk about it
37:18
before. You came in with that title
37:19
Super Glue because you thought you liked it was cute.
37:21
For real. Yeah.
37:22
So you come in with Super Glue, did you?
37:24
How did you start building the song off off of the title?
37:27
I kind of had the idea. I think I had a crush at that
37:30
moment. I thought of the word super
37:31
glue. We kind of like built the track
37:33
out and then I just said the word super glue and I was like,
37:36
I really like that. I think that's like a really
37:37
cute idea and it's kind of fun and and catchy.
37:41
And so we kind of just started talking.
37:43
There was a lot of writers with me for that one.
37:45
So we all just kind of started chatting and getting the
37:48
scenario built up of like me and the crush.
37:51
And, you know, you're thinking about this person all the time
37:54
and they won't get off your brain and you might not even
37:57
really know them that well. Yeah, but I'm like addicted to
38:00
it. Basically.
38:01
I'm like gripping on for dear. You're so the same.
38:04
Literally, that's exactly how I. Am I got me too.
38:07
Yes, I love like the metaphors and everything that you do, like
38:10
the visuals, aspects of everything and also love the
38:13
video for fear of going out. Oh thank you Super rock star
38:16
girl created everyone go watch it right now.
38:19
Yes. Please, please watch it.
38:21
So Rockstar. Thank you.
38:23
Wait is critical getting a video too?
38:25
I don't think critical is maybe the.
38:26
Justice for critical. I know Justice for Critical.
38:29
Next time it's going to have really cool cover art though.
38:31
I'm excited. Oh, I believe you.
38:33
I was telling you literally before we started filming, I was
38:35
like, I you're on my mood board. Thank you.
38:38
You are on my mood board. What you give such in everything
38:41
you do? Like literally are you?
38:43
Sure. You give, you give, you give,
38:45
you give. I feel like you own it.
38:46
Like, I know it's like this whole thing of like people
38:49
thinking it's inauthentic to you, but I'm like, this is so.
38:51
Easy when you're authentic. Yeah, exactly.
38:53
It looks natural. Really easy when you are so
38:56
locked in the vision. I'm like I make literal
38:58
PowerPoints. It's so crazy.
39:00
I make PowerPoints for my singles and I made a PowerPoint
39:03
for fear of going out. I made one for critical of like
39:05
styling fashion hair. Like this is how the content is
39:09
going to work and this is how like the music video would look
39:12
for fear of going out and how my cover art shoot is going to look
39:15
and like all that stuff. And it's comes to me so, so
39:18
easily because it's authentic. It's.
39:20
Also like your vision? Yeah, definitely.
39:22
I'm like I know what to do. You guys, we need to beat these
39:27
Bailey spin inauthentic allegations like I feel like you
39:29
have been nothing but real really Lulu as fuck this entire
39:32
time. So I'm like.
39:33
How many sad songs will it take before people believe?
39:36
Me. We're about to find out.
39:38
I got more coming, don't worry. Keep them coming with the new
39:42
music that's coming out with fear of going out like the lead
39:44
off this next project. I know you're still working on
39:47
it. You said that you know you don't
39:48
have a date or anything, but you are working on the second album.
39:50
Yeah, yeah, it was the first single off of it, definitely.
39:53
I think the last one's going to be like the lead single
39:57
critical. We're just giving people like a
39:59
little taste of what they shouldn't be.
40:01
Back into this new world. Definitely.
40:03
You know, fear of going out was a little grungy and then
40:05
critical is still grungy but heavy.
40:08
And honestly the only thing I can give away, it's very
40:11
evanescence of me. We're so excited.
40:13
Very fun, so I'm excited for that.
40:16
Oh my gosh. And so how far along are you
40:18
with making this album right now?
40:20
I'm honestly like maybe halfway. I was counting them out the
40:24
other night because I have so many demos in a folder that I
40:26
had to like list out the ones that I approve and like will be
40:29
on the album, but I think I maybe have like 6 or 7.
40:33
It's going to be longer than the last one.
40:34
People were kind of mad at me because the last album was like
40:37
8 songs, but I was like, that's what my deal was.
40:41
That's what I was contracting up getting.
40:43
You're like I. Was working.
40:44
What I was only allowed to make 8.
40:46
That was it, like. You're like, I didn't.
40:49
Have a choice. I would have liked a longer
40:50
album. Right.
40:51
I would. And it will be longer, don't
40:53
worry. OK well honestly like Loser was,
40:56
I mean like 8 is a short album, but like I feel like it was a
40:59
perfect world. It is.
41:00
It's a baby album. I call it that.
41:02
I had an EP. Yeah, we did a little more, not
41:05
too much. We didn't go too crazy.
41:06
So I think it was a little stepping stone.
41:08
We growing, yeah. We grown so.
41:10
Album 2 is going to be longer. We're super.
41:12
Excited. Definitely.
41:13
OK, so if you're going out critical, these are going to be
41:16
on the album though. Yes, they will be.
41:17
OK. I don't even know where on the
41:19
album yet. Like that's where we are right
41:21
now. I don't even.
41:22
They're all just like in a notes app.
41:24
They're not even like there's no plan.
41:26
We're still in the process of conceptualizing it.
41:28
Obviously when the album comes out, you have to come back
41:30
because we need to deep dive everything.
41:31
Yes, I'm so excited. Like I feel like very hyped.
41:33
About this right now. I know.
41:35
And then we're gonna reference this and like, remember when you
41:37
didn't say anything about? Right and.
41:39
Then we'll we'll get back into it.
41:41
Yeah. So with the Happy ending tour,
41:44
huge success. Congratulations.
41:46
Are you going to tour again soon?
41:47
What are you thinking you're going to do?
41:48
Any shows? Yeah, I want to.
41:50
I'm trying to do some more shows soon.
41:52
Anytime they're presented to me, I'm like, yes, yeah, yeah, I
41:56
love performing. I definitely would love to do a
41:58
headline. I think right now, too.
41:59
I've always wanted to open for people just because I think it
42:02
would be so much fun, especially if I'm a big fan of the artist.
42:05
Yeah, hell yeah. We've been putting me out to
42:07
some of the bands that I like and some of the people I like,
42:09
so hopefully someone will say yes.
42:11
Soon they're going to say yes. You hear this, let me on your
42:13
tour. I'll be great, I promise.
42:15
Every everyone watching right now, please have Bailey open.
42:18
Let me on. Yes, put you on the stage
42:20
please. I love that.
42:21
So did you feel like when you start performing 'cause you know
42:23
how you didn't initially feel like growing up?
42:25
Like I want to be an artist? Like was that a transition for
42:27
you to like getting on the stage for the first time 'cause I
42:29
remember you mentioned the first performance you ever did.
42:31
It was like they give you like 45 minutes, you had like 50
42:34
minutes before you just jump on a stage.
42:36
Yeah. Oh yes, I did ATV performance.
42:39
This was crazy. This was lore.
42:42
I don't know why. Through a different company a
42:44
while ago, I got an opportunity to go sing on a show, like a
42:48
live TV show. I had never sang live in my life
42:51
other than like a talent show when I was in like 7th grade.
42:54
So I was like, yeah, sure. I mean, I guess.
42:57
And so I went on and did it. I didn't sound very great and I
43:01
had never done it before or I didn't like necessarily look
43:03
awkward. But I mean, I just definitely
43:06
didn't sound great because I was one nervous.
43:08
It was a live studio audience. They put no tune on it
43:12
whatsoever and I had never sang live in my life.
43:15
So I'm fighting nerves. I'm like, I had flown to New
43:18
York to do it and then I'm like, Oh my gosh, there are people
43:22
staring at me and I don't know what's happening.
43:23
And they don't know my song either.
43:25
When it it's my own tour, I'm like, they're so excited.
43:28
They're there for you. They bought the ticket for you.
43:30
They're familiar. The audience is just like.
43:33
Yeah, they're like, who's this? Literally, yeah, that's fine.
43:37
But my my own tours were better for sure.
43:39
They were great. That's your comfort zone too,
43:41
you know, These are your fans that are coming out to see you
43:43
for sure. Oh, my gosh.
43:44
I feel like I would thrive if someone told me.
43:46
Like if someone told me right now, like Charlie was like, OK,
43:48
you're going to go perform right now here in like 20 minutes.
43:50
I'm like, great, let's go. Yeah.
43:52
Me. Too I love I prime under
43:54
pressure yes literally also I just love performing and I
43:56
living on stage so like anything put me up there I don't care
43:59
what it's for I. Lock in.
44:00
I'm like Hannah Montana. It's like another personality.
44:03
For sure. Oh my God, yes.
44:04
I feel like especially even with artistry, especially with
44:07
artistry, it's like you become a more empowered version of
44:11
yourself. You have to.
44:11
You're a performer. For sure.
44:13
I'm like, it really is two different people.
44:14
I kind of separate it too, because it's, it was like even
44:17
when I'm promoting my music, there's just a certain way I
44:20
want to come across and I'm feel like I'm very like LAX and as a
44:24
person, I wear a lot of T-shirts and you're.
44:26
Like so chill dude. Thank you.
44:28
Wait, can I tell all the delulus like we you got to set on time,
44:32
which I so appreciate you interest in and then also this
44:35
set today is such a mess. Guys.
44:37
They the production through a fucking giant ass Halloween
44:40
party the night prior. They were tearing everything
44:42
down. It is so messy.
44:43
It is so noisy. I don't have my full team with
44:46
me today and you heard so chill this entire time.
44:50
Oh my God, I was like I was like, I'm sweating because I was
44:53
like, you know, your publicist Tristan came before on a
44:56
different a different episode, a different guest and that
44:59
production was tight. It was so good.
45:02
Everything was everything went exactly how I needed to go.
45:04
And I was like, she's going to expect that again.
45:06
And I was like, and I walk onto set today and everything's a
45:08
fucking disaster. I was like, OK, let's do this.
45:11
But you're so chill. I'm so grateful for that.
45:14
Like, thank you. So much I'm relaxed, I don't
45:17
really mind, but I'm like the performing Bailey is the one
45:19
that is not relaxed. I don't know.
45:21
I I'm very like not that tense in like my regular life.
45:24
Totally. Sometimes I feel more tense on
45:26
the stage and then I have to like kind of double down and
45:29
fight it. So I'm like, I am Hannah Montana
45:32
and this is my other personality.
45:35
It's like Belina, that's not me. I love that.
45:39
OK. Well, Belina slaying it.
45:40
Thank you. We're excited about that.
45:42
OK. Well, Bailey, I know we talked
45:44
about earlier how you would like to be a role model like you
45:47
would hope to be a role model, right?
45:48
We're going to test your role model schools.
45:49
Right now we're playing a little game.
45:52
This is WWAGD. What would a Dulu girl do?
45:55
So we have some fan submitted questions and do they wanna know
45:59
our Dulu advice, our takes on it, what we're thinking?
46:02
Are you ready? Yeah.
46:03
OK. So our first one is I cheated on
46:06
my ex and I want them back. What should I do?
46:09
What should I do? Bailey.
46:10
You shouldn't have cheated in the 1st place.
46:13
Hard no I'm sorry. I think you need.
46:15
To do some better. You need to do some self
46:18
reflection maybe. And if you really truly think
46:21
you change the person and you're not going to hurt them like that
46:23
again, then you can reapproach it.
46:25
But I genuinely think you need to look in the mirror and think
46:29
about what you've done because that is really hurtful.
46:32
It's so hurtful. I'm against cheating unless
46:34
you're, you know, Polly. But if I mean that's.
46:36
The two of you though. Yeah.
46:38
Definitely. That's something that you have
46:39
to like kind of be on the same page.
46:41
That's the thing. I feel like cheating is such
46:42
such a nuanced thing for not a nuance, obviously terrible, bad,
46:45
don't do it. But my point is I'm just like
46:47
it's so like I just can't ever wrap my mind around it myself
46:50
because I'm like if I love someone, I wouldn't.
46:53
I couldn't even I. Don't.
46:54
Absolutely not. You don't love them if you cheat
46:56
on them. And I say that all the time
46:57
because you would not do that. Like that is so awful.
47:01
TI even feel like because that's such a drastic uptake when I
47:04
like someone I don't even find other people attractive.
47:06
I. Don't look anymore.
47:07
I'm like that too. I'm like hard eye.
47:09
Emoji for them and then everyone else I'm just like whatever, I
47:12
don't care, I don't want to look at it.
47:13
So that's crazy. I can't even imagine that.
47:16
I guess my advice would be grow. Grow.
47:22
Change reflect, reflect, stream loser and reflect right?
47:27
OK so we have another one. This is from anonymous bestie,
47:31
my ex situation. Ship won't leave me alone but I
47:34
want to move on. What should we do here?
47:36
Blocked. No way.
47:39
Yeah, but OK, first of all, red flag your situation, Chip.
47:42
Don't do that. Don't.
47:43
That's not a word. I hate that word.
47:45
I that's not a thing. You're either talking slash
47:48
dating or you're in a relationship or you're friends.
47:51
There's no what is a situation, Chip?
47:53
If this is going on for many, many months, it can be hard to
47:56
like let go of that person, but you have to at a certain point
47:59
be like what's happening here? Where is this going?
48:02
Yes, set a boundary. I mean, if you're both cool with
48:04
it, then stay in your situation, Chip.
48:07
But I mean, if they won't leave you alone, block them like, and
48:10
if you don't want them to be there, I mean, obviously if
48:12
you're still attached, like do whatever girl.
48:14
But if you don't want them blocked, I'm like, you let them
48:18
use a burner. I'm like just don't answer them.
48:21
Damn. Stop.
48:22
I'm brutal. You're brutal.
48:24
I'm scared. I feel like you're talking to
48:25
me, but I feel like I like that attention.
48:27
So I would be like, I guess I would just like ignore them.
48:30
I wouldn't block them because I really want to see them
48:32
continuing to like. Right.
48:34
Well then, then you could just use a burner.
48:36
Everybody has a burner. They're just going to make
48:38
another Instagram. If you wait, do you guys want
48:40
tea? I do not have a burner.
48:41
Really. I don't have, I don't have a
48:42
burner. I don't have a close friend.
48:44
Log out because I'm too into a stalker.
48:47
You were sleeping on that. Shit, yeah.
48:49
I was like, girl, this is really bad for your health.
48:51
No. I had to literally delete the
48:53
account. I was like, OK, we're done.
48:54
You're sending the boundaries for yourself, yes.
48:56
OK, I think that's good to do too.
48:58
I'm like, honestly, you should not have the burner account, but
49:01
I'm, I was there with you, so I'm not judging you.
49:04
I am here for you. I don't.
49:05
Have anything I just don't even I don't I don't have the time to
49:07
fucking even post on my own stories so that's why I don't
49:09
have a close friends and then also like I.
49:10
Care too much I. I need to get better at it
49:13
because technically my job, but I'm so bad at social media in
49:16
the sense where it's like, I need to post about this.
49:18
And I think things happen in my life so quickly that I'm like, I
49:20
can't even post about it because I'm like, OK, well, the next
49:21
thing happened, you know what I mean?
49:22
Like that Halloween thing I went to last night, like I it's gone,
49:25
it's over. It's over.
49:26
It's happened. I didn't post about it.
49:28
Next thing, yeah. Exactly.
49:30
And then I'm willing I have to do these dumps and it's just
49:32
such a chore. It's like such a part of the
49:33
job, obviously. So I wanted to talk to you about
49:35
this because I feel like in this day and age, musicians have to
49:38
be content creators. But of course, you started as a
49:41
massive content creator and now they go hand in hand.
49:44
You've been integrating your music into your POV content and
49:46
also really intentionally posting about your music more so
49:50
than your content. So what was that transition
49:52
like? Was that intentional for you?
49:53
Yeah, it definitely was intentional and I wanted people
49:57
to not be mad at me for getting rid of the content, but kind of
50:00
see that this is my dream. And it's not that I don't love
50:03
creating content or anything. I just really love making music
50:07
and putting like 110% effort into something is the only way.
50:11
And I had to convince people, you know, like this is what I
50:14
want to do. This is what I like to do.
50:16
People are a little skeptical, but I think just trying every
50:19
single day to get them to believe me it.
50:21
Sucks that you have to still prove yourself.
50:23
It's like, why don't have to prove to you that I want to be
50:24
an artist? Can I just be an artist?
50:26
Yeah, yeah, they just don't want that to happen, you know, again,
50:28
with like being in a box and they're just very, like I say,
50:31
people are closed minded about it and I really don't understand
50:36
that perspective. Maybe just because I'm an
50:37
influencer, but I'm like, do whatever you want, girl.
50:40
Like, absolutely. And it's like you guys are
50:42
missing out on like great artistry, great music because
50:44
like, you can't fathom the idea of like someone who made videos
50:47
might want to pursue another Ave. of entertainment, you know?
50:50
What I mean, right, I think creativity a lot of the time can
50:52
like flow and to other things. And I was creative in like skit
50:56
writing on TikTok, which also skit writing is still writing
51:00
even though it's in a silly way, you know?
51:02
I was making. Crazy plots I obviously.
51:04
Were. Some kind of creativity
51:06
happening. So I just like transferred it
51:09
over. It was like a skit writer to
51:10
songwriter. Girl, you were making movies.
51:13
You were like subplots. Oh yeah, they were.
51:15
Like crossover like. An hour long.
51:18
When I was following, I was like, where's the next part,
51:22
guys? I'm like we gonna we gonna take
51:23
it all all the way I. Need a resolutionary?
51:26
Super talented. Exactly that.
51:27
It's like you've been writing. So it's like now I'm just
51:29
writing in a different way. And it's right.
51:30
It's still a part of me. Everything's still a part.
51:32
It's honestly more honest than like, the POV.
51:34
It's because that's not who I am.
51:36
Yeah, I would put on a character and I'd be very, like, eccentric
51:39
I and happy. And I think that's also why
51:41
people got confused when I went alternative.
51:43
And kind of you could tell from my music, if you did listen to
51:46
it, that, you know, they were introspective and sad.
51:49
But the way you look at me online, people thought I was
51:51
like this happy, bubbly, blonde, fun girl and that I was blonde
51:56
for sure. I don't know if I was any of the
51:58
rest of those things. Yeah, I came across that way.
52:02
And so I think that's what was jarring.
52:03
It was like, I've been alternative the whole time, but
52:06
I just wasn't sharing it. I just literally wasn't.
52:09
I never posted about music or anything that I listened to
52:12
before that. So how would they know?
52:15
It's weird because it's just like, how much of yourself do
52:16
you, are you willing to share? And then it was like, why should
52:18
you have to? Like, you know what I mean?
52:20
And it's like, it's still you and you can reflect it in your
52:23
music or whatever. And people were just like, got
52:24
so like up in arms about change or things being different, which
52:28
is so incredibly silly. Yeah.
52:31
They're missing out I. Hate change.
52:33
I love change. I'm.
52:34
At the point now where I you, I just have to embrace change.
52:38
Yeah, I feel like I've. Never liked change, but I'm
52:40
like, whatever, here we are. Let's just let's just rock and.
52:42
Roll. That's it.
52:43
OK sorry about that tangent but we have a topical question here.
52:47
So my boyfriend refuses to do couples costumes with me for
52:50
Halloween. What should I do?
52:52
That's a red flag. You think so?
52:55
Yeah, I mean, unless you're like asking him to dress up as
52:57
something crazy like Shrek. Why don't you want to do a
53:00
couple's costume like? Yeah, what do you mean?
53:02
Why are you in a couple if you want to do a couple's costume?
53:04
100%. I hate people that are like
53:06
hateful like that on holidays. Like even if you're like, I just
53:10
don't want to wear a costume. It's.
53:11
Like. You're boring, then you're so.
53:13
Boring, but you guys want tea? OK, so I'm going to be a traffic
53:18
cone. Cute.
53:19
And Brett is going to be a crossing guard.
53:21
I love that. See, like that's adorable.
53:23
Cute. That is so cute.
53:25
Oh my God, I know. I'm so excited.
53:27
I. Understand someone saying no, if
53:29
it was like I'm going to be a Princess Shrek and you can be
53:32
Shrek, Princess Shrek, Princess Fiona and you can be Shrek the
53:36
Green Giant ogre, I'm like, I'd be a little mad about like that
53:40
you. Know salty?
53:41
Oh for sure. No, just cute old traffic cone
53:44
and crossing guards. Peanut butter and Jelly.
53:46
Cute. Literally.
53:47
OK wait, actually if they I guess if the if the costume.
53:50
Here's my advice. If the costume is like, yeah,
53:52
you're going to be like a turd and going to be like a fairy or
53:54
whatever, then I don't know. We've been limits together.
53:57
Like we need a little more nuance here.
53:58
But yeah, no, honestly, if your boyfriend doesn't want to do a
54:01
couple's costume with you, they're so boring.
54:03
That is boring. That's a red flag.
54:05
Halloween's like once a year. Do it.
54:07
It's not that hard to like come to a compromise about it.
54:09
Like even if you maybe pick something that they don't want
54:11
to wear, there are so many couples costumes in the world.
54:14
Like he could pick it too. Or like whoever is the one that
54:18
doesn't want to do. It I love a matchy matchy
54:19
moment. Right, I love match.
54:21
We could both be the the same thing.
54:22
You can pick it, it doesn't. I'm like, if you just don't want
54:25
to dress up and won't come to a compromise, that's rude.
54:29
Red flag. I agree with you because then
54:30
it's also just like, OK, then not to make it deeper than it
54:32
is, but then I'm like, what else are you like not ready to do
54:35
with? Me, it's a simple thing to make
54:37
your partner happy like that. I mean obviously unless they're
54:40
asking you to buy like $1000 costume or something, but.
54:43
Crazy, right? Yeah.
54:44
Just go to Party City, it's not that difficult.
54:45
To figure it out. Be devil and Angel like come on.
54:48
Simple, literally peanut butter Jelly.
54:50
Leave a traffic code and crossing guard.
54:52
Yeah, we're queuing a picture right here.
54:54
Bryant, that was us on Halloween, So it didn't happen
54:59
yet. But we're.
55:00
We're jumping to the future. This Is Us.
55:01
We look so cute. So cute.
55:03
I love that. And that was all great advice.
55:04
You're very strict on your relationship.
55:06
Strike program. Very strict, so funny we're
55:08
talking about it because you're just so laid back and chill.
55:10
But when it came to the relationships and anything,
55:12
you're like, no, cut it off and it would you feel like you're
55:16
like on your own relationships, obviously.
55:20
I do have a lot of boundaries. I think that's why I stay
55:22
single. I think I just know what I want
55:24
to and I'm genuinely one of those people.
55:26
I'm like, I know I'm 23 but date to marry.
55:29
I'm like, I'm really not going to like waste my time and like
55:33
the dating scene. I really just, if I don't see a
55:35
future with you genuinely, I'm not going to keep dating you and
55:39
I'm so. Happy being.
55:40
Single. I'm just so work oriented that
55:43
like and I'm so happy being single because I've been single
55:45
for so long that it really is a strike program.
55:48
I'm like, I know what I want, I know what will compliment me too
55:51
and like what I'm looking for and.
55:53
You're not willing to settle. You know I'm not willing to
55:55
settle. Good period.
55:56
The bar is up here. Period.
55:59
It's on the ceiling, girl, not the floor.
56:00
I love that. That's so good and I'm so work
56:03
oriented too. And also I get so fucking like
56:06
disastrously, disastrously disasterly.
56:10
I get horribly obsessed with like my fixations.
56:14
If I like someone like I will give you everything like I think
56:16
I would. Even my biggest thing in my
56:18
life, and everyone knows this, anyone who knows me at all is my
56:21
career. I love my career, I love what I
56:23
do. I want my career to continue to
56:25
grow, but I feel like I would give it up and sacrifice it if
56:28
like a man or someone that I really, really loved or
56:31
something Like, I don't know why they would ever ask me to, but I
56:34
think I would, you know, which is terrible.
56:36
If I would, unless they were like really, really rich, maybe
56:40
then I would get. But I would still want to do it
56:42
like I have to create. Yeah, I'd want to still make
56:44
music though. But if I had like maybe in a
56:47
different, maybe not like specifically music.
56:49
If I had a different job and I was like, this doesn't mean that
56:52
much to me. Bye.
56:54
See, I mean, I would love it if I would just like have to work
56:57
Saff literally. OK, I'm open to that.
57:00
Yeah. Anyone.
57:01
Anyone open to all of it? Well, OK Bailey, we've been
57:04
getting along so great this entire time.
57:05
You've been so chilled before, before this started, but
57:08
obviously you've been dealing with a lot of hate comments, you
57:11
got a lot of opinions. We just got targeted for another
57:15
one together and the Dululu PR team just sent this in this
57:18
morning and it is about us. So obviously, you know, we've
57:22
been on Battle of the Bands together and it's been fiercely
57:26
competitive. We're so chill of each other.
57:28
But the rumors are swirling. But can you read this article
57:31
for us? This is from Delulu Daily, which
57:34
is the DCU Delulu Cinematic Universe version of TMZ.
57:38
OK. OK, can you read it aloud?
57:40
I'm scared. I'm scared too.
57:43
Over the top line too. Yeah, OK.
57:46
OK. POV Ryan Lu steals the spotlight
57:49
from Bailey Spin and a shocking twist at a battle of the bands.
57:55
Ryan Liu has quickly become the fan favorite to beat out former
57:59
POV queen turned rock artist Bailey's fan.
58:03
Ryan's performance of Rockstar by Hannah Montana was not only a
58:08
showstopper, insiders are calling it a strategic and shady
58:12
choice. A playful jab at Bailey's rocker
58:16
booths. The bold move paid off
58:18
completely, winning over the audience and the entire panel of
58:22
judges who were reportedly speechless after her set,
58:27
Sources say Even backstage energy is tense, with the
58:30
competition turning into a full on cultural moment with the two
58:34
stars duking it out at the top. The only question now is who
58:38
will be crowned the winner. Well, Bailey, I've been rooting
58:41
for you this entire time. I've been waiting for you.
58:45
Thank you. I do want to clear up the
58:47
rumors. I did do Rockstar by Hannah
58:48
Montana because it's a shady little jab, but it's all in the
58:52
the name of entertainment. I.
58:54
Can't believe you'd do that. It's my favorite song too.
58:56
I mean, I knew that too, so it was also me paying homage to
58:58
you, right? Because you're also having a
59:00
tribute, yeah. Baileana.
59:02
Baileana, that's so flattering. Exactly.
59:04
So it was a little bit of both the tribute act.
59:07
Oh, tribute act. OK, OK, OK, OK.
59:10
Dedication. Well, it was a little bit of
59:12
everything for you in the true nature sure of loser, you know,
59:15
but I am rooting for you to win. I think it's, I think it is
59:19
going to be me as the winner. I mean, I think it's going to be
59:22
you I I have a song called Runner Up, so I think I already
59:25
put myself there. Right, and then also manifested
59:27
with sex to suck loser. Yeah, loser.
59:31
Yeah, runner up. I'm really not setting myself up
59:33
for victory here. I mean, the expectations for
59:36
yourself are just. The bar is low.
59:38
The bar is low when it comes to this, but in dating, in
59:42
relationship, the bar is high. But we're going to work on the
59:44
remix, obviously. Love your reading for you.
59:46
Yeah, May the best Rockstar win. I hope so me.
59:51
OK, we'll see. I mean, my album coming out is
59:54
winner so. Wow.
59:57
Well, mine's called double winner.
1:00:00
Double winner winner, winner. We're going to get my PR on this
1:00:04
ASAP and clear that up. Trademark.
1:00:09
OK, well, so sorry about that. Be the best Rockstar win
1:00:12
obviously. Yes and I will.
1:00:15
I will mention you when I do so I ask all my guests this on
1:00:19
every show. What is your most delulu take?
1:00:22
What do you think is most delusional thing to be silly,
1:00:24
controversial fun? I think the way I even became an
1:00:28
influencer was literally out of sheer delusion.
1:00:31
Like when I wanted to be a YouTube at 15, did I ever think
1:00:35
I was going to do that? No.
1:00:36
And I got famous for such an obscure thing.
1:00:39
But I'm like, girl, if you see a, if you have a chance, run,
1:00:44
run with it. It's grab on and run.
1:00:46
That's what I did. Yeah.
1:00:48
We're going as far as this will take us.
1:00:51
And I was so delusional about it.
1:00:53
I was just like, I mean, I didn't even really think like I
1:00:55
would manifest. It's like blowing up and it
1:00:58
really happened to me. Yeah, you have to manifest it
1:01:01
and it will happen. But you have to think about it
1:01:03
physically being yours and be delusional about it.
1:01:06
And I'm still delusional of like I see myself at when we were
1:01:09
young, I see myself at warp tour, you know, it's like maybe
1:01:12
next year, maybe after that, you know, but I see myself there and
1:01:15
I I vision myself performing at big stages all the time because
1:01:18
one day it's going to happen. And one day I'm going to be
1:01:20
like, my prophecy was right. I didn't love that.
1:01:23
We're going to pull up these clips of you talking about it.
1:01:25
I can easily see you doing all of that and more obviously.
1:01:28
I hope so, I definitely could. Easily.
1:01:30
Are you kidding? You're getting there.
1:01:32
Wait, I'm so excited and I'm going to be there.
1:01:35
Yeah, Oh yeah, you'll be side stage period.
1:01:37
Good view. Love it, I'll take content for
1:01:39
you. Love that POV side stage every
1:01:41
Thursday. Yes I love it.
1:01:43
I love OK I'm claiming all that I don't.
1:01:45
I don't even think that's delulu.
1:01:46
I was very delulu too when I started my TikTok.
1:01:48
I literally manifest exactly what you said blowing up I wrote
1:01:50
in my notes app. I was like, I'm manifesting,
1:01:53
blowing up on TikTok, getting thousands and thousands of
1:01:55
followers, and then literally the next day I got my first
1:01:57
viral video. Yeah, you just have to believe.
1:01:59
And like Gabi Delulu, I sound crazy.
1:02:01
You have to believe in the universe.
1:02:02
And I, I put a lot of faith in the universe.
1:02:04
Me. Too and it worked out.
1:02:06
It did exactly working out right.
1:02:09
I'm like, that's why I tell people I'm like, I am living
1:02:11
proof that you can be delusional and it can work out for you.
1:02:13
Like, really, well, me. Too, Oh my God, literally be an
1:02:16
illusion to everyone. You just got to do it.
1:02:19
OK Bailey, I wanted to guess your Zodiac sign.
1:02:21
I've been paying attention to everything you've been saying
1:02:22
this entire time. I have a few guesses based on
1:02:24
what you've been saying. I thought I had it clocked but
1:02:27
then you said other things that made me question it.
1:02:29
So I'm going to give you my 2 guesses and why I think them got
1:02:32
you and then you can tell me if I'm right or wrong.
1:02:34
My first guess is going to be Taurus because you're so chill
1:02:38
and laid back. Very, very, very, very chill.
1:02:41
I'm not a Taurus. Not a Taurus.
1:02:42
OK, wait my. Next I knew that kind of throw
1:02:44
you off. I have a weird moon.
1:02:46
I have a weird moon sign that is like opposite to my sun.
1:02:50
Sign, wait, give me a hint. Do you think you?
1:02:52
Do you think your sun signs obvious to you?
1:02:55
Your personality? Do you resonate with it?
1:02:57
Probably more so like my online personality.
1:03:00
OK. It's like why I'm so good at
1:03:03
being cringy and unaffected by other people.
1:03:06
Leo Yeah. Block block, block block.
1:03:10
That was not even my initial. Thing, it's like Cancer moon,
1:03:13
which makes so much sense. Yeah, I'm like two different
1:03:15
people. Exactly.
1:03:16
I'm so sad on my music and then on my other stuff.
1:03:19
The big Leona came out. So yeah, literally that's my
1:03:22
other personality. I'm like the weird sad Leo.
1:03:25
It's a weird combo of like Cancer in Leo.
1:03:28
I'm like sad but I'm also the baddest bitch in here period.
1:03:32
That's the Leo, but I'm crying. Cancer you're exactly that.
1:03:35
That's so funny, especially reflecting your music cause the
1:03:37
lyrically obviously it's coming off Saab and then I feel like
1:03:39
sonically things right? Exactly.
1:03:41
You're taking it there, OK. Sad but exciting.
1:03:43
Clocked. My other guess was going to be
1:03:44
Virgo because you said you made PowerPoints.
1:03:46
Right organization. Exactly.
1:03:49
So just a type type A Leo then? Yeah, yeah.
1:03:52
We love that I I I could totally see Leo now.
1:03:56
Now that you said it, I could totally see Leo.
1:03:58
OK, amazing. I.
1:03:59
Love, attention, me too. Very true about me.
1:04:02
I fucking love. I'm not a Leo, but I love
1:04:04
attention. Love, attention.
1:04:06
It always gives me away. I'm like, I love attention.
1:04:08
That's so. Interesting, because I don't.
1:04:10
You didn't come off like you did throughout this entire thing,
1:04:12
you know what I mean? But now definitely I'm clocking
1:04:14
it. I feel it.
1:04:16
It was like, it's more about the energy.
1:04:17
Like I love walking into a room and like having people stare at
1:04:19
me. I'm like.
1:04:23
Me too. No, I love that.
1:04:25
I literally love that. And I, I feel like I want people
1:04:27
to look at me wherever I go, everything I'm doing.
1:04:29
Also, I hate being perceived half the time.
1:04:30
But then like whatever, you know.
1:04:31
I'm the same way. I'm like only specific people.
1:04:34
Kind of, yes, literally if I'm in the mood for it.
1:04:37
Please, everyone pay attention. OK?
1:04:39
Well, Bailey, this has been so phenomenal.
1:04:41
We've honestly had such a great day.
1:04:42
I'm so sorry about how chaotic the set was today.
1:04:44
Guys, you have no idea. This is a good memory for me,
1:04:47
though I did enjoy this. Thank you so much for being
1:04:49
here. But we close out every show by
1:04:51
man together, so we already know you're manifesting, performing
1:04:55
more tour. What else are we thinking?
1:04:57
What else do you want to speak into existence right here into
1:04:59
Lulu? Oh, I want my album to blow up.
1:05:02
You know, I, I want my artist project like a goal I've had.
1:05:06
I mean, setting my sights high. I'd love to have a million
1:05:09
monthly listeners but 500500K listeners on Spotify by the end
1:05:14
of the year. Go to the million you can.
1:05:15
Have it all. A million in 2026.
1:05:18
Bailey Spend. World Takeover.
1:05:20
Yeah, Oh my God. Wait, I'm cleaning all that for
1:05:22
you too. That's so good.
1:05:23
And I really want Loser to have its moment too.
1:05:25
Like, really really before this next album comes.
1:05:27
Out. Sometimes it takes people
1:05:28
another project to go back. Yeah, I think he likes to read a
1:05:31
Carpenter. You know what I mean?
1:05:32
Yeah, exactly. People were finding it like some
1:05:35
of it during the time, but then people would also back to emails
1:05:37
I can't send and be like because the sweetest.
1:05:39
Now short and sweet and because a man's best friend because they
1:05:42
blew up. Exactly.
1:05:43
And also like in this day and age, I always tell this because
1:05:47
my roommates are artists too. I always tell them I'm like you
1:05:50
guys like nothing. Is it?
1:05:52
Just because it comes out now doesn't necessarily mean it's
1:05:54
gonna. It could either blow up now, or
1:05:56
it could blow. Up a year later, it does. 100%
1:05:59
it doesn't matter anymore. The timing really doesn't even
1:06:01
matter anymore. I think it's more about output
1:06:02
quality art and just like making it happen, you know, being
1:06:04
consistent. Believing in it too.
1:06:06
A. 100% like think about like Cruel Summer by Taylor Swift
1:06:08
that one number one four years later.
1:06:09
Yeah, that's crazy. True.
1:06:10
First by Lizzo, that one, number one like 2 years I think.
1:06:12
About like Pierce, Avail and King for a Day because that
1:06:15
started like charting because of the Internet.
1:06:18
It just just started taking off one day exactly many years
1:06:22
after. It was just like whoosh.
1:06:23
I know it could happen like that.
1:06:25
Yeah, it's crazy. They did that with an I love
1:06:27
Piers of L, but they did that with so far so fake too.
1:06:29
If you've seen that like dance trend on TikTok.
1:06:31
I don't think I've seen it. It just blew up out of nowhere
1:06:34
and it was like 9th on the album.
1:06:36
It was like solely an album track and just was like now
1:06:39
their number one song. I'm like, that's insane.
1:06:42
See, anything had happened. Anyone could blow up any point.
1:06:44
Absolutely. I mean, honestly, you don't know
1:06:46
which. One will do like the most
1:06:48
either. You can't really, I guess it
1:06:49
it's hard to guess. Right.
1:06:51
I mean, honestly, it's just about the output.
1:06:52
You're doing it, you're putting it out.
1:06:54
It's great. And we're so excited for all of
1:06:56
that. I'm manifesting all that for you
1:06:58
too. I'm so excited for you and
1:06:59
you're so lovely. Seriously, this is so
1:07:01
incredible. Oh my God, stop.
1:07:03
Thank you. You're so.
1:07:04
Lovely. Thank you.
1:07:06
Well besties, thank you so much for watching this episode of
1:07:09
Delulu. This was your healthy dose of
1:07:10
delulu. So now you can go live your
1:07:12
Trulu bestie Bailey. Where can the besties find you?
1:07:16
I'm at Bailey spin on everything.
1:07:18
Make it really easy on Spotify too.
1:07:20
Everywhere. I'm Bailey Spin.
1:07:22
That's on branding, period. It's been in a circle.
1:07:24
And we're going to be streaming Loser, the album of chorus, fear
1:07:28
of going out and Critical, which is coming out actually next week
1:07:31
or by the time you see this episode, probably sorry out.
1:07:32
Yeah. But we're excited for this next
1:07:34
album and next project. And if you guys want to stay up
1:07:36
to date with Bailey when she's touring any shows, any new music
1:07:39
releases, of course, follow her everywhere Bailey Spin and
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1:08:00
Perfect. Yeah, you could do that.
1:08:02
Yeah, absolutely. We're going to call it winner
1:08:04
for. You happy?
1:08:05
I'm going to have to dig deep for that.
1:08:07
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1:08:11
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