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Exclusive INSIDE Scoop: Major Shifts in the SILVER and Gold Community... and a Word of CAUTION · SILVER / GOLD / $UFD Meme Coin Investing & Global Economics

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Big changes in the silver and gold sector.
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We have an exclusive story this morning regarding Wall Street
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Silver, that organic community that grew out of the Silver
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Squeeze, big changes within that Reddick community.
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I'm joined by John Little. We're going to talk about that
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today. He knows a lot on the subject,
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but also we have a big warning, a big concern about what's going
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on in the silver and gold sector.
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We're going to talk to you about that as well.
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John, thanks for joining me again here in Ron's basement.
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Oh, it's always my honor. I've just been devouring your
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videos and again, it's just to be in the basement next to the
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Unicorn and the gorilla. It will hit the $2500 number for
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sure. Big Party when Gold hits $2500.
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Following this story, we've had a chance to go on some other
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networks, but we we feel more that you're you want you listen
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and are more aligned with our mission.
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So I'm real honored to be with you and you're awesome fans.
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So thanks, let's keep going. I can get right into this.
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Unless you have a question. Well, I wanted to point out to
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the to the viewers, we've got big changes at Wall Street's
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over and that's a huge community, right?
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I think 260,000 members. Had the Wall Street vets sort of
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launched the mean stocks like GameStop and AM C and.
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There was a shout out saying well this could probably work
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with silver given the fact that we, you and I discussed two
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weeks ago the shortage of silver and that it is a historically
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shorted position by usually bank bankers.
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So there an opportunity emerged and the Wall Street vets guy
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kind of said we don't want you talking about silver on our
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stock channel. So they ended up starting their
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own thing, and it did mushroom into a significant movement.
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Organic. Where people were allowed to the
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idea was let's all stack physical silver and drain the
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inventories thus silver raising and prices or calling these
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people on their naked short positions.
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So it's very smart movement and and it started off sincere and
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then what happened is the founders and I'm not going to
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drop names, people can research this but they sort of launched A
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GoFundMe scheme that was intended to.
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Do a variety of things like buy media, outdoor media, Internet
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ads, grow the movement, the funds.
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And there was supposed to be this Ledger that everyone could
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see full transparency and accountability.
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No one could produce the Ledger, the people in the OR the
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moderating role. So that led to some red flags.
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And then there was all of a sudden instead of talking about
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physical silver week after week after week on their YouTube
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channel, it seemed to be this. Pump and dump scheme for just
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various different obscure mining companies.
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So they took their eye off the ball.
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Then we found out later that they just didn't have the
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numbers. A lot of them were bots and you
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can spend money I guess and read and have these bots retweet you
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all the time on Twitter. So the analogy I thought of was
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if I said I'm printing the Wall Street Journal and I go to
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Cadillac and Gucci and. Audi and BMW and say, hey, we
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have a readership of 10 million. All of our people are high net
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worth people. All of our, they own two homes,
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they all have advanced degrees. And then you don't print the 10
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million papers. You only print maybe 500 of them
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and just send them to Cadillac, to your advertisers and act like
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these are my demographics, but they're not your demographics
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because you don't have that reach, because you paid for that
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reach through bots. So they stole that money from
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the fleece from the miners, freeze fleece from the silver
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citizens and then there was another layer of fleecing on
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this minted coin that they produced.
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They were supposed to share that proceeds and they it was over
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500,000 in revenue there that they didn't share.
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So it it totaled over $1,000,000 and worse than that and that's
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pretty egregious given how small the silver market is.
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But worse than that is, it left a bad taste in the mouth of the
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sponsors as well as the Stackers.
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So as of yesterday, the some of the original moderators and you
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let me let me let me interject quick.
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I'm sorry, because I would. No, it's okay.
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No, I just want to mention, I think it's a real shame that you
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had this organic community of people that were interested in
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growing awareness of silver. People, individuals donated
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money. You know, I think like you said,
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on many levels people felt, I mean it's hard enough to to to
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educate people on silver and gold for that matter.
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But then when you have situations like this, which at
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its very base root was a grassroots movement to to
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support silver and gold, that it wound up this way.
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And I can tell you from my own personal experience, I had a
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couple companies tell me, companies that I own stock in,
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companies that I was interested in working with that said we're
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holding off, we got burnt by Wall Street Silver.
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We had a bad experience and that's a fact and that's the
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truth. And it's just a real shame that
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it that it took took that turn. But there is some good news and
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before I cut you off, I think you were going to allude to that
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about what's transpired regarding some of the original
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people coming back and and and and taking over.
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Well, I'm really glad you interjected that because that it
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seems like you're discovering a pattern and I think we should
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touched on that pattern because it goes to the yeah, I kind of
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want to, I want to go there a little bit and then come back to
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what you just said. If if only 1/2 of 1% of U.S.
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citizens believe that silver and gold are a worthwhile investment
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because there's all the other asset classes have done pretty
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well. Because when you print a lot of
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money, those that money printing sort of flows into equity
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markets and real estate markets and people have choices for
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where they hold their wealth. So it's always been an uphill
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battle since. You know, at least since Nixon
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closed the gold convertibility option to get people to invest
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in gold and silver. So the last thing you want is to
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have this outcropping of thieves and bandits and fraudsters and
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villains. Say they have some version of
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gold, whether it's in a fund or in some other manifestation or
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business plan. And then?
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They usually target the elderly. They usually do so on TV ads.
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There was a guy named Lucas Asher Fashion himself is sort of
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a, you know, a sun shade wearing leather coat, rock and roller.
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He had a company called Barrett Capital or Chase.
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Metals, you know, they always kind of give you these confusing
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names. And there was a character named
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Tyler Gallagher of Regal Assets, and I did a story on them.
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There's ten of these citizens just recently, so they're
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targeting the elderly. And if it leaves that kind of
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stain, think how much harder than the people that are
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reputable have to work then to remove that tarnished
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reputation. So circling back to and and and
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and you bring up a great point. I've been in this business now
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for about a year and a half and I've been presented with you
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know 10s of 4050, sixty different sponsorship
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opportunities or affiliate programs.
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And without exception everyone that I've looked into.
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I think well, I wouldn't do business myself with this
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company. So I'm not going to represent it
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to my audience because you, you, you are dealing with elderly
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people. You are dealing with another
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segment of the population that are unsophisticated investors
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that don't understand. And and I think that those
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people are being taken advantage of.
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And I want to, I want to emphasize, I think a point that
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you that you made, right. Like gold and silver are already
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fighting an uphill battle, right.
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And and there's this, I don't know if it's an organized
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effort, but this overall message, I guess we'll say that
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we get generally in society that gold and silver are, you know,
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are are used by bandits and pirates and drug dealers and the
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Wagner group and and and and the fact that unfortunately there's
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a segment, not everybody, right. There's a lot of great people in
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this business. Right.
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And I'd like to think that I'm one of them.
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I'm not perfect, but I'd like to think that I'm one of them.
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But we're almost playing into what the general message is out
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there, like we're already fighting an uphill battle And
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then you've got all these conflicts of interest that I
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tend to see people, you know, engaging in price gouging scams,
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hustles, pumping up scams on penny stocks.
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And and it's like we're playing into the message that that, Oh
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yeah, gold and silver are, you know, it's a, it's a I don't
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know the right way to phrase it, but it's a dirty area.
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And don't you know, you don't want to buy gold and silver,
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right. That's what the general message
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obviously you know when one out of 300 people or whatever the
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number is in the United States own gold and silver, there's not
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a lot of that. There's not a lot of awareness
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and and and you know what I fear is that we could be running down
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like the like like we're almost like crypto.
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You know like Sam Bankman freed type situation where all of a
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sudden if if the government really wants to they could come
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in and and and say Oh my God look at all this.
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We told you gold and silver were bad.
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Look at all this fraud and corruption going on.
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I'm done. Well.
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You could build that if. A lot of these people, I think
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the story I wrote within the last six weeks was I think my
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list was up to 10 and that's that I found through research of
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I think I called it beware of gold and silver scams and again
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like you said if it we're fighting an uphill battle.
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We know that the people that don't want competition for their
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money are is the Federal Reserve in the US government.
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They want to be the issue issuers of the paper note it's
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always been that way in the Bank of England.
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Same thing when they wrote that contract with King George who
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wanted to fight France. They, the 40 businessmen, did
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loan him the money so he could fight France.
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But in the contract it said we will now have the monopoly on
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issuing the currency. And that isn't that long ago,
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like 200 years ago or so. Well, a little more than that,
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so. That practice, like you say, we
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already have that uphill battle of of fighting the Federal
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Reserve. So in a way we are like you say,
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we're sort of cannibalizing each other through that plan of let
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the let the villagers fight amongst themselves and then they
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don't have to do anything. So it is a perfect analogy to
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bring up crypto. There's over 1000 crypto
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products, right? Or even more?
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And most of them go to 0. The only ones that haven't so
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far really are Bitcoin in Ethereum.
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And then you see Richard Hart of HEX.
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He's always turned in on Twitter.
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He'll show up every now and then buying Gucci Rolex watches in
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these bizarre track suits and founting as well.
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Like he's some rapper with gold chains.
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And it's really gaudy, tacky, materialistic.
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And the optics are stupid. And he's almost saying, see, I
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ripped you off. Now come find me in Dubai
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hiding, right. You know, so we're seeing that
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again. The other irony I've seen is
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with a lot of the gold and silver celebrities, I'm not
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dropping names that I grew up, you know, admiring because they
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were smart people and they did some great research in terms of
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looking at. You know, trends on gold and
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silver and technical analysis and historical moving averages
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and Elliott Waves and Fibonacci patterns and lines of resistance
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and all these sorts of technical things as well as.
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How silver does relative to the Dixie and I.
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Then I go and find out that a lot of these people also have
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launched their own weird side projects that aren't physical
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gold, but sort of representations of gold.
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Almost like paper in a way. And it's funny because all they
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have spent their whole career bashing on Jamie Dimon, bashing
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on Jerome Powell, Janet Yellen, Christine Lagarde, any president
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they can find or Congress member.
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Yet if you say one thing about one of these celebrities, you
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know, it's like hands off me, you know, so it's kind of like,
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you know, well. If you're in a glass house, you
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may not want to be throwing those stones around so
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frequently. Or put away your slingshot.
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Yeah, your little whippersnapper anyway.
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But yeah, it just gets me thinking like we're already
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fighting an uphill battle in this industry.
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We need, we need help, right? We don't need you to steep in
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the hill for us. And when you have like, what was
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the most pure grassroots movement within within the
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silver sector, I was there. I was there at the Silver
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Squeeze, right. I was there, you know, pretty
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early as a member of Wall Street Silver.
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It felt good. It was pure.
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When you have even something like that, I was able to get
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corrupted, right. Let's just say there was some
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corruption, scandal and controversy.
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But now? But now there's a new day.
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And I won't say maybe new day is a bad way to say it.
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There's been a reclamation by some of the Is that an accurate
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way to say it by some of the original?
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Yeah, some of the the OG moderators we could say stand
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for old guy, is that right? Original Original.
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OK, yeah, that's funny. No, these guys are the opposite
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of I'm an OG, I'm an old guy. Yeah, I'm you know, if half
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these people found out I was a boomer, they would stop reading
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the pickaxe. For good reason.
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Because you know we anyway. Yeah.
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So Silver Diegen Club. You know you've had Conrad and
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Media and illuminated Avon and they are.
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And there's a bunch of them that are just genius like Meme
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Sergeant Spliff and chief banana JAMA.
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That I mean, I can't. I don't want to name all the
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names because it I'll forget a few and then.
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Bad on me, but content over there is sort of going to be
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like this where if you want edgy memes that are think of like Mad
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magazine before it's time it kind of offended some people
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because it was maybe or even political cartoons at the turn
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of the century could offend people.
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We don't. You know how certain art forms
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Andy Warhol may have offended someone, We don't know David
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Bowie. You're right, we can go on and
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on so. I'd say the edgy stuff will be
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on the Silver Degen Club channel and then Wall Street Silver will
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just be only silver stacking pictures.
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Let's get away from the politics, get away from the hate
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speech, get away from anything that isn't, you know, just want
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to keep it really traditional. And I hate to use the word clean
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because that infers that silver legions are not.
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They're right. What they're trying to do is
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move the needle. And sometimes when you have a
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real serious topic like silver, you're talking about systemic
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risk, geopolitical risk, the dollar losing, purchasing power.
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It's very sad news. So they try to do so with the
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with some humor, irreverence, and cynicism as a way to.
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The attention of a young stacker, because if this just
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stays with the boomers, what's going to happen when they go and
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the new generation isn't aware of of silver and gold, they're
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just going to get into equity trades and and crypto.
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So this they do have a mission of sort of that's why a lot of
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their means look like video games and stuff like that.
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They're trying. It's a it is a very well
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executed plan. But you had a question, Wall
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Street Silver. Let's say someone was involved
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with the group, involved with the original movement.
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They've been disheartened. What would your message be to
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them? Can they expect transparency?
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That you won't see ads on Wall Street Silver, for example.
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There won't be. If they are, they're going to be
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sponsors that aren't tied to, you know, they're going to be
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sort of more. I hate to say the little guys,
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but I would stay more like boutique industries.
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You know, there's some people out there that are just melting
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their own, doing ham pours, doing things like that.
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So it's not, it's more or less going to be like an I hate to
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use the word grassroots now because that even has a stain on
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it. Let's just say that the
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community will remain true. It won't be a pump and dump
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scheme, you know, commercialized.
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Yeah, I would say that it's been demonetized that you know, and
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let's that way people don't feel like they're just ponds if if
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every day you got up and you were selling, you know, a
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deodorant, a Cologne. Some sort of new sheets for the
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your bedding and all of a sudden Ron's basement turns into Ron's
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garage sale of you know like a QV C channel.
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I think you're pretty soon you would start seeing some comments
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in the field like hey Ron, quit shilling the, you know, Ron's
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windows. These are double pane windows
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with low glazing. Your house feels warmer in the
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winter and cooler in the summer with Ron's windows.
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OK, back to our program. You know you're not doing that.
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It would get a little bit annoying, right?
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Well, you know, I don't have a problem with sponsorships or
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even you know, affiliate programs that are if.
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You vet them, yeah, if you vet them and they don't.
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You know what? You know what the big key is to
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me? Do you eat your own cooking,
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right? Like, I had a sponsor and I'll
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have them again here toward the end of the year.
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A mining company that I'd actually made videos about for
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years before they sponsored me? Okay.
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And I've owned the stock, right? I've owned the stock and what is
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to me, a significant portion of my net worth is invested in that
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company. So do I feel okay talking about
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that company? Absolutely.
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Do I tell people that I don't have a crystal ball?
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And had I had, I, I would have told you a year ago that I
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thought it was a smart investment and you would have
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lost 40% like all mining stocks. Absolutely.
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Right. Full transparency, you know.
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So, you know, I think that that there's nothing wrong with
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people in this business trying to.
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You know, sponsor things and make money.
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But but you know, like you said, have you vetted them?
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Is it something that you have put your own money into?
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Would you put your own money into or are you just, you know,
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selling yourself out for anything that comes along?
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And I think that that there's that there's a fine line there
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to a certain extent. And I understand because I get
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calls all the time. Hey Ron, we'll we'll pay you,
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you know, three $4000 to make a video about this company.
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And then I look into the company, I'm like, well, I
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wouldn't buy that stock in a million years.
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So I'm not going to promote it to my audience, right.
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But it's hard to turn that down because to me, 3 or $4000 right
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now is a pretty good amount of money, you know?
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Yeah, it is for anyone. And right there is a let's say
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that's always tempting. I'm a Ghostwriter for some
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subscription services and. They do pitch you very
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aggressively, you know, but there's things you got to look
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at. You want to see how much cash do
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they have on hand? You want to see how much of that
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do they burn through in a month. That's called their burn.
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That way they're not just raising money than diluting the
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shares. Then you know the other due
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diligence is do are they in a good jurisdiction, let's just
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say we're talking you know, right.
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You know recently Mexico banned open pit mining, but that's
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that's pretty risky right. Whereas there's some I wrote
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about a silver company that had some good or grade in Nevada and
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New Mexico and so those are safer jurisdiction wise then you
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want to look at their management team, have they?
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Been able to because only one in 2000 mines ever make it to the
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market. So you want to make sure that
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even with this discovery do they have the management team and
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business savvy to to bring it to market?
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And lastly, is their geologist worth his?
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Well, I mean you got to have a great geological team.
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So there's so many things these penny stocks in general do not
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have that They just have, you know.
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You got to be real careful. Yeah.
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Yeah, so. What's That's Ron, I think what
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you're saying when you said, would you invest in it or will
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you eat your own cooking is what I like to say.
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Do you have skin in the game, right?
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Is that sure? Yeah, exactly.
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That's a great you know we got we got way off we got way off
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subject because we're we're here to announce the new day at Wall
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Street's over but I want to interject what the heck where
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I'm going to go further off subject on you.
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The other thing that I see a lot of people make a mistake with is
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inside ownership. They'll be a tiny gold mining
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company and they'll say, oh this wealthy individual owns 20% of
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the company or or the CEO owns you know 15% of the stock, which
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is not bad. Okay.
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I'm not saying that's bad, but I think we're people make a big
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mistake is what's more important to me is how much of the CE O's
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personal net worth is invested in the company.
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Because you can have a CEO who owns 25% of the company's stock
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and that might equal $5,000,000. Now that's $5,000,000 is a lot
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of money, but if the guy's worth $800 million, that's a big
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difference between a CEO that has $1,000,000 in the company,
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right? A lot less, but he's only worth
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1.5 million right? He's got 2/3 of his personal net
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worth in the company. I personally would rather be
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with the guy who only has a million in but it equals 2/3 of
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his of his net worth. Anyway I.
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Got that's actually that's relevant because I think we're
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allowed. I think I know you're alluding
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to there's a billionaire in Canada it sounds like, and he
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has, he owns every silver and gold company, a little bit of it
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and they all say. We've got him to invest and they
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all drop the name like well he's in then I should get in too And
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it's just so I got you let's get back to Wall Street Silver I
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really like the way you think the Ron you you said that this
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is just an anecdotal situation that happened to be a very
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popular movement and touched all of our daily routines and social
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media experiences. But if we can weave a take a
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bigger lesson out of it like. Why are we cannibalizing each
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other? You know, why is the infighting?
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It could lead to undermining the very thing we believe in, which
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is honest money. And then why are we tolerating
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dishonesty? So I to me, those seem like
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incongruent themes fighting each other.
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So philosophically, we have to just sort of transcend above
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that and say, let's warn each other or let's do our due
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diligence. Before we just are gullible
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folks and I think your people are savvy and they, you know the
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whole idea. If you don't hold it, you don't
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own it. And it's that's sort of a good
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basic rule of thumb. Yeah.
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Well, I think the issue is we have an industry that likes to
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run around saying look at what the feds doing.
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They're, you know, they're they're, they're good.
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Look at what the government's doing.
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They're, you know, the the, the monetary and fiscal situation is
25:44
horrible and you need to have pure, honest money.
25:47
But then when you peel the covers back, not everybody, not
25:52
everybody, but this, this beacon of, you know, that's supposed to
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be the the safe and the honest place to go.
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There's some, you know, at times monkey business from some of the
26:04
actors going on within that sector and it could just, it
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could really easily undermine the whole movement.
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It's like, hey guys, enough is enough.
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Right. And nobody's perfect.
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And and and there's there's some Gray areas and nuances that are
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involved in this situation. But I mean, you know, if you're
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going to, if you're going to preach one thing, well then you
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need to practice it yourself. You know, it reminds me of this.
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I recently moved to Pittsburgh that grew up in the Southwest
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and there was a school in Albuquerque, NM called Highland
26:37
High. And as it turns out, they were,
26:40
they had started importing a lot of the athletes for their
26:44
basketball team and and football team and these kids were like 2
26:48
years older than all the other kids.
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You know, they've never gone to middle school anywhere.
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They were just sort of. Plucked from different urban
26:57
situations and they dominated, you know, So if you're cheating
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to win a high school basketball championship or if you, it'd be
27:06
like, you know, shooting a bunch of kids on Little League with
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steroids just so they can throw the ball 90 mph.
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You got when when are you going to?
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What can you do that's not corrupt?
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I mean, can we just have some degree of values and morals?
27:24
Without sounding sanctimonious, I mean and what you alluded to
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was is just pure hypocrisy. If you're always pointing the
27:30
finger at Jamie Dimon but then you have in your own little
27:34
cabal and syndicate and do the exact same thing, then that's
27:38
hypocritic. You know that kind of behavior
27:41
is just what's discovered. It's almost like when you when
27:45
some of these Tele evangelists. Went down and inglorious, you
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know, right? Always asking for money.
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Then you see that they got these gigantic mansions and then they
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have like 5 girlfriends on the side.
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You know, it's like, come on anyway.
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Yeah, well, you know, or, you know, I was trying.
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I was thinking like, you know, like the high school
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valedictorian who's the head of the student council and then,
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you know, two weeks before graduation, you also find out
28:13
that she's the biggest pot dealer at the high school.
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I guess pot's not that big of a deal anymore, but, you know,
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it's and it's not. Again, it's not everybody.
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It's not everywhere. But gosh darn it, if we're going
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to preach this is pure money, you know, however you want to
28:29
say it, this is the real, this is honest money, right?
28:32
Well then be honest about it. And the real simple you know, I
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have to shout out to Steven Saint Angelo if he's just.
28:42
He's always been very, very weary of anything.
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He's techn. He's very modest.
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He charges, you know, very little for his service.
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It's just fantastic. And he just, he's always been
28:55
warning people along the way about some of these sorts just
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to to protect the integrity. It's almost like in golf.
29:04
You don't allow your part. You can't say to your partner.
29:07
He's 10 feet away from the Cup going, oh, you don't have to
29:10
putt that, that, that putt's good.
29:12
It's like, it's not fair to the 70 other people that are on the
29:15
golf course at the time playing in the same tournament.
29:18
You got to protect the field that it's that simple.
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And I think and I think the big warning is that if Wall Street
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silver could have evolved into a situation where there was such
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scandal and controversy right that and and and really they are
29:39
the they were I mean they were a pure member driven movement.
29:45
If Wall Street silver could have moved into that arena.
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You know, you know that's like to me that's like like you said
29:54
like the televangelist or what you know or or the OR the high
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school valedictorian. You know, experiencing some big
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kind like we need to be careful and you know I'm I'm excited
30:04
that there's new leadership there.
30:07
I'm looking forward to a new era there and and and transparency
30:12
and in accountability. If you see anything that starts
30:16
to look a little like they're in Dancing in the Gray zone, post
30:21
about it. The first warning signal with
30:23
the with the bad Guys was when people did question it.
30:27
Then all of a sudden they were banned, they were disappeared.
30:31
Yeah, they were censored. Or they were blocked.
30:34
So that would be the first. That's when we knew things were
30:37
trouble for Jimbo and Ivan is when we started seeing that they
30:41
were censoring those. Always the 1st just like we've
30:46
seen recently with you know we'll talk about big tech or
30:50
whatever, what other questions did we that's it.
30:54
Thank you on. Behalf of everyone watching,
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you've got, you know, a keen level of insight and always
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enjoy talking to you John. I appreciate it and hopefully
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we'll see you again real soon. Yeah.
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Great to be with you, Ron. Thank you.